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Guest Post: False East/West Paradigm Hides The Rise Of Global Currency

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Submitted by Brandon Smith of Alt-Market blog,

Despite popular belief, very few things in our world are exactly what they seem. That which is painted as righteous is often evil. That which is painted as kind is often malicious. That which is painted as simple is often complex. That which is painted as complex often ends up being disturbingly two dimensional. Regardless, if a person is willing to look only at the immediate surface of a thing, he will never understand the content of the thing.

This fact is nowhere more evident than in the growing “tensions” between the elites of the West and the elites of the East over the crisis in Ukraine.

I am continually astonished at the refusal of many otherwise intelligent people to consider the evidence or even the possibility that there is, in reality, no fundamental political or philosophical conflict between the power brokers of the East and the West. As I outlined in great detail in Russia Is Dominated By Global Banks, Too, the truth is they are both working toward the same goal; and both ultimately benefit from an engineered and theatrical display of international brinksmanship.

Russia, like the United States, is utterly beholden to globalist financiers through organizations like the International Monetary Fund and the Bank for International Settlements. Russia’s global economic adviser in matters ranging from investment image to privatization is none other than Goldman Sachs.

Goldman Sachs has also worked closely with the Ukrainian government since 2011, and it started its advisory work with Ukraine for free. (Whenever Goldman Sachs does something for free, one should take special note.)  Banking elites have been working both sides of the fence during the Russia versus Ukraine charade.

Russia has continued to borrow billions of dollars from Western banks, including Deutsche Bank and Credit Suisse, year after year, proving that they are not averse in the slightest to working closely with "evil Western robber barons".

Russian President Vladimir Putin meets with Mr. New-World-Order himself, Henry Kissinger, on a regular basis; and according to Putin’s press secretary, they are “old friends.” Putin’s meetings with Kissinger began almost immediately after he first took power in 2000.

Putin’s relationship with Kissinger has been so pronounced that the Russian Foreign Ministry gave Kissinger an honorary doctorate in diplomacy, and Putin placed Kissinger at the head of a bilateral “working group” — along with former KGB head and multilateralist (globalist) Gen. Yevgeny Primakov — dealing with foreign policy.

In more recent news, I would also remind pro-Putin cheerleaders that Putin and the Kremlin first pushed for the IMF to take control of the Ukrainian economy, and the IMF is now demanding that Ukraine fight Russia in exchange for financial support. This might seem like irony to more foolhardy observers; but to those who are aware of the false East/West paradigm, it is all the part of a greater plan for consolidation of power.

Clearly, Putin and Russia are just two more puppet pieces on the globalist chessboard, pitted against other puppets in the West in a grand theater designed to distract and divide the masses through chaos. As Kissinger points out, in crisis there is opportunity.

What is the goal? They’ve already told us, openly, on numerous occasions.

The first great prizes of the New World Order are a global currency and centralized economic control.  The elites are not satisfied with quiet dominance of individual economies.  They want complete political homogenization and the end of all sovereignty.  Period.  With a global currency in place, the steps towards global government become quick and small.

Heads of state from around the world, including Putin, as well as international bankers and IMF representatives have all publicly called for the IMF to take charge of the global economic system through its Special Drawing Rights currency program.

However, for the SDR to become a dominant currency, certain issues must be resolved. Here’s a short list.

The U.S. Dollar Must Fall

The dollar must lose its world reserve status, and most likely collapse in relative value, before the SDR can be elevated. This is where mainstream pundits lose track of the facts. For them, the dollar is an invincible monetary element, a currency product as infinite as time. Their normalcy bias prevents them from ever acknowledging the many weaknesses of the Federal Reserve note, including our country’s inability to ever service its more than $200 trillion debt. Others believe the dollar is the NWO currency, and that the globalists are somehow U.S.-centric. The evidence posted above suggests otherwise. Globalists have no loyalty to any nation or culture. Their only loyalty is to the progression of their own power. If sacrificing the dollar or the U.S. as a whole furthers that power, then they will have no problem cutting us loose like a rotting appendage.

A Liquidity Replacement Must Be Introduced

As my regular readers know, I have been covering China’s progression toward a decoupling from the U.S. economy for years. China, in my view, has always been the key to the elitist shift into a truly global currency mechanism. The primary argument in the mainstream against the idea of a dollar collapse is that there is no other currency with ample liquidity to take the dollar’s place. Well, in the past couple of years, this has changed.

China and the banks it controls have issued approximately $25 trillion in debt instruments and monetization. This is often referred to as a “debt bubble” created through panic and a weakness in China’s economy and a response to slowed quantitative easing in the United States.  I would take a slightly different position.  China began issuing Yuan denominated debt instruments in 2005, years before the mainstream had any inkling of the impending derivatives collapse.  From then up to today, there has been no practical purpose for China to produce these Yuan denominated equities and securities, unless their target has always been to expand the Yuan market in a covert way.

I would say that China’s monetization has been carefully and deliberately engineered in order to lay the foundation for a massive liquidity spike in the Yuan. The argument that China’s incredible debt generation is a sign of impending collapse may be misguided. U.S. debt, including unfunded liabilities, absolutely dwarfs China’s $25 trillion. China's Yuan debt has barely had time to accrue concrete interest.  The U.S., on the other hand, is caught in an endless cycle of interest payments that are slowly but surely eating away the skeleton of our fiscal structure.  If any economy is on the verge of implosion, it is that of the United States, not of China.

The Chinese need exponential Yuan circulation. They do not want the Yuan to replace the dollar; instead, they are preparing it for induction into the IMF’s Special Drawing Rights basket.  With China set to become the world largest economy this year according to World Bank, their inclusion is assured.

But, when might this occur?

The IMF holds an international conference and policy meeting on the SDR every five years. During these meetings, the IMF decides if it will absorb a new currency into the basket and if it will expand the creation or circulation of SDRs around the world. Interestingly, the next IMF conference on the SDR just happens to be scheduled for the end of 2014 to the beginning of 2015.

Another strange coincidence: The U.S. Congress was supposed to vote on legislation for further capital allocations to the IMF by April. The vote never came. The new allocations were to fund an expansion of IMF programs and help with the greater inclusion of BRIC nations in governing decisions. If the U.S. government does not pass this legislation, Russia and other nations have demanded that the IMF move forward without the United States on reforms. At the very least, the U.S. would lose its veto power over IMF decisions. I believe that the timing of this is deliberate, that the U.S. is meant to lose its veto power and that the simultaneous SDR conference will announce the inclusion of the Chinese Yuan, setting the stage for the replacement of the dollar as world reserve.

The SDR will not immediately be issued as a commonly traded currency itself. Rather, the IMF will take over management of included currencies and denominate those currencies using SDR valuations. For example, $1 U.S. is worth only .64 SDR today. In the near future, I expect that the dollar will plummet in relation to the SDR’s value. We will still have our greenbacks when the IMF begins administrating our currency system, but the international and domestic worth of those greenbacks will fall to pennies. In turn, other currencies with stronger economic positions will rise in worth relative to the SDR.

I believe one of the primary determinations in a currency’s value compared to the SDR will be a country’s stockpile of gold. This is why Russia and China in particular have been purchasing precious metals at an unheard-of rate (and why U.S. gold reserves have never been audited). The IMF itself is one of the world’s largest holders of physical gold, with nearly 3,000 metric tons (officially). With the crash of the dollar system and investors clamoring for a reliable hedge to protect whatever savings they have left, gold could conceivably skyrocket into the $5,000 to $10,000 per-ounce range. Governments holding the metal will be favorably placed during an implementation of the SDR as the new reserve standard.

A Cover Event Must Be Created

The centralization of power is best achieved during moments of bewildering calamity. The conjuring of crises is one of the oldest methods of elitist dominance. Not only can they confuse and frighten the masses into malleability, but they can also ride to the public’s rescue as heroes and saviors later on. The Hegelian dialectic is the mainstay of tyrants.

The destruction of the dollar and the institution of a global economic bureaucracy are not actions that can be executed openly by international financiers. These events will coincide with extreme catastrophe, likely worse than the Great Depression era, with millions upon millions of people losing the ability to financially support themselves and their families. Crime, death and public discontent will surely follow. People will be looking for someone to blame. This is where the false East/West paradigm comes in.

It is widely expected that as sanctions snowball between Russia and the U.S. that the dollar will end up on the chopping block.  China has asserted its support for Russia in opposition to NATO interference in Ukraine.  The stage has been set.  I have warned for quite some time that the development of East/West tensions would be used as a cover for a collapse of the dollar system. I have warned that among the American media this collapse would be blamed on an Eastern dump of foreign exchange reserves and treasuries, resulting in a global domino-effect ending U.S. world reserve status. In turn, the international community would be conditioned to see this as the mere bumbling of a spoiled America gone power-mad, rather than the result of a covert program of economic destabilization. This might lead to all-out war or a fiscal firestorm that leaves much of the world crippled and desperate for aid.

In either case, the elitist plan is to use scapegoats and false enemies to draw our attention away from the real culprits: the international banks themselves. Make no mistake: This fight is not about President Barack Obama, it is not about Putin and it is not even about the Federal Reserve. These men are tools, errand boys, public mascots. Do not be fooled by the global stage play being perpetrated. Whatever happens in Ukraine and whatever happens between Russia, China and the West, there are only two real sides to this battle: the elitist establishment, and those who are smart enough to recognize their poison.


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Wed, 05/07/2014 - 19:42 | 4737821 fonestar
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Wed, 05/07/2014 - 19:43 | 4737825 StacksOnStacks
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Gold to 30k, Silver to 3k

Wed, 05/07/2014 - 19:49 | 4737852 Squid-puppets a...
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and Kissinger to his long overdue demise

Wed, 05/07/2014 - 19:51 | 4737859 Cacete de Ouro
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When Kissinger demises, I'll open an old bottle of champagne.

Wed, 05/07/2014 - 19:55 | 4737863 Arius
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the $20 premium on gold price, for the possibility of wkraine war is off ... back to where we started ... 


Armstrong observes this is a pause to higher prices ... no longer is he calling for another decline to 1200 or lower ... interesting to say the least

that pause might be off this weekend ... thats my take on this latest peace talk ... we got warS coming and lots of them .... the writing is on the wall

Wed, 05/07/2014 - 20:15 | 4737951 knukles
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You mean the Hegelian Dialectic is for real?
Jeepers, Batman!

Wed, 05/07/2014 - 20:26 | 4737979 Arius
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hegelian? not that good in philosophy ...


On the article, read it again, I think he got it all figured out, he might be right (funny talking about a big depression coming) ... except i dont agree with his last sentence; in my view the smart people who understand what is going on are smart enough to stay out of the way ...

Wed, 05/07/2014 - 21:16 | 4738172 New Ordnance
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Kissinger, Brezinski and David Rockefeller were founders of the Trilateral Commission in 1973.

Under Nixon, Kissinger opened up China for trade agreements. We see how that  worked out.

Now, behind the Ukrainian Kabuki, the  dying dinosaurs have laid their eggs in the Kremlin hoping they will hatch.

 Omelets anyone?

Wed, 05/07/2014 - 21:31 | 4738224 SMG
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So I guess the life extention tech of our olgiarchs is in full view.    Still mankinds heart cries out for freedom.  Will we claim it ?  We shall see.....

Wed, 05/07/2014 - 22:43 | 4738435 Manthong
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Um.. gee, if anybody bothers to check out the link from my earlier post they will note that the SDR is already in use,

..this is a big freaking deal.

Thu, 05/08/2014 - 00:28 | 4738690 Rock On Roger
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Stack On

Wed, 05/07/2014 - 21:33 | 4738231 New Ordnance
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Just waiting for the tune of the "Hegelian Dialectic" so the dance can start.


“Having your independent source of food allows you to step outside the boundaries of “the game” and stop dancing to the tune of the Hegelian Dialectic. You need enough stores and caches to survive the initial die-off and the means to grow your own food afterwards. Have a bug-out plan B with multiple caches of H20 purification equipment, food, guns and ammunition, and seed. Step outside the game itself by having the means to start over.”


Wed, 05/07/2014 - 22:59 | 4738490 Zirpedge
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"Having an independent food source..."

That's why I am asking the Detroit legislature to support my Urban Aquaculture Initiative. Give away free homes to small farmer to transform the inner city to sustainable farms.

Oh and this  the East / West shit is worse than Rep / Dem nonsense. US is colluding with Russia to destroy the EU, perhaps out of such a break up a new sytem will emerge but not a single one.

Wed, 05/07/2014 - 23:55 | 4738628 New Ordnance
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This is where it gets sweet and cozy.

"Putin’s relationship with Kissinger has been so pronounced that the Russian Foreign Ministry gave Kissinger an honorary doctorate in diplomacy, and Putin placed Kissinger at the head of a bilateral “working group” — along with former KGB head and multilateralist (globalist) Gen. Yevgeny Primakov — dealing with foreign policy."

Primakov and Marcus Wolf (Head of the East German STASI) were hired by DHS in the aftermath of 9/11 to help design the security systems that we now enjoy in our police state. LOL.




Thu, 05/08/2014 - 03:07 | 4738838 ebear
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"the Russian Foreign Ministry gave Kissinger an honorary doctorate in diplomacy"

These guys have a sense of humor, don't they?

Thu, 05/08/2014 - 01:39 | 4738769 El Vaquero
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If people are planning on learning how to grow and produce their own food AFTER SHTF, a lot of them are going to die.  You want to have food stores?  See how much of it you can produce yourself.  Don't count on there being an internet to look up the old ways of growing and preserving food.  Get out there and do it yourself. 

Thu, 05/08/2014 - 01:14 | 4738742 putaipan
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and i been postin' this one for two days now ....  (oops. sorry cut and paste linky finally gone)

it was a link from blaclistednews suggesting the imf loans to ukraine were in sdr's. ukraine forced to borrow 'em and thereby moscow essentially having to agree to accept them.

sdr's beayatchhhez! (instead of metals or digitals why can't i just stack me some sdr's now?)

Thu, 05/08/2014 - 01:31 | 4738762 old naughty
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wait, did they not buy gold "ahead" of paying Gazprom?

Who  sold them the gold I wonder (or pehaps one should ask, will Russia demand physical)?


Wed, 05/07/2014 - 21:26 | 4738207 OpenThePodBayDoorHAL
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Sorry guys but analog Bitcoin (gold) has been hopelessly financialized. They can send the dollar price anywhere they want, anytime they want. Sure sure the "endgame" is approaching etc etc, stand for delivery etc etc. We've heard that so many times before it's not funny.

Thu, 05/08/2014 - 01:08 | 4738735 bankerbackbacon
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Its about time the major finance houses lent some money to NATO and Russia/China for the purpose of making a fortune when they fight, just like the previous major wars. Again it will be mostly Christians who die on the battlefield, but this time Jew's and Muslims will also get involved. Real or not, Pike's 3rd World War is lining up nicely. Christians are the enemy of the Cabalistic, Humanistic Bankers etc.

Are you a God or do you need to get right with God?

They will have to kill me to get my son to die for Lucifer and his idiot nutjobs amusement.

Cockroaches the whole lot of the Mason, Libertarian/Communist ass clowns.

Fuck their Cabala and Hegel, throw Plato in there for good measure.

Wed, 05/07/2014 - 19:55 | 4737877 McMolotov
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Age is no obstacle to Kissinger, who is already undead and sleeps in a coffin.

Wed, 05/07/2014 - 20:04 | 4737908 Arius
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kissenger is an interesting character, but it shows that in this country everything is possible, Kissinger Republican born in germany still one of most influential in foreign policy,Obama, Democrat various background becomes even higher President ... i think people have to focus on this positive examples when they are down, and become optimistic about this country once again ... never bet against america!

Wed, 05/07/2014 - 20:21 | 4737972 LetThemEatRand
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Lest we forget, the big O worked for Kissinger.   Two evil peas in a death pod.   You advance to greatness in this country if you join the dark side.  Yes there are exceptions, but they don't pull the levers.

Wed, 05/07/2014 - 20:27 | 4737988 Arius
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i did not know that ... timothy geithner yes

Wed, 05/07/2014 - 20:35 | 4738013 LetThemEatRand
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It goes even deeper.  "Henry Kissinger, the pioneer of Cold War detente during the Nixon era, has made a return to frontline politics after President Barack Obama reportedly sent him to Moscow to win backing from Vladimir Putin's government for a nuclear disarmament initiative."

Wed, 05/07/2014 - 21:11 | 4738153 Lost Word
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Why is there no outrage among ZH readers about the statement above that

Kissinger and Putin are good friends?


The implication being that Putin is deep into the NWO.


Suddenly Putin in Ukraine looks like a set up for the false Left-Right antagonism

when both sides are controlled by the top of the pyramid.

Thu, 05/08/2014 - 00:41 | 4738705 palmereldritch
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But on the bright side Boris is definitely not NWO, not left or right ...just a copper imbalance I think

Wed, 05/07/2014 - 20:40 | 4738035 DaddyO
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LTER, a link to the Big O working for HK please.

I searched and found this, but it's inconclusive and only links HK to BHO via John Haley and Hugh Parker.

However, the assertion is made that HK is BHO's envoy to Putin.


Wed, 05/07/2014 - 20:56 | 4738074 LetThemEatRand
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There is no definitive link.  Obama worked for BIC, which at the time was run by the former deputy chairman of Kissinger Associates.  Like Obama's time in Columbia, this period of his life is well hidden.

The fact that Obama would reach out to Kissinger after taking office and put him in a powerful role says what I need to know in terms of filling in the holes.

Wed, 05/07/2014 - 21:09 | 4738146 DaddyO
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The whole relationship shows just how much of a Manchurian candidate BHO really is, although the brainwashing is questionable, BHO is in full grasp of his demented mind.

The NWO runs way deeper than most will ever know.


Wed, 05/07/2014 - 23:03 | 4738502 Rakshas
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You got that right, digging around a bit from the early 60's to modern day you keep seeing the same names come up over and over.......


From the desk of Wayne Madsen........

Wed, 05/07/2014 - 23:22 | 4738559 Lost Word
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There was a story recently that Obama was born in Kenya,

but US citizen Ann Dunham was not his real mother,

Obama born to some other white woman in Kenya,

perhaps a British woman.

Wed, 05/07/2014 - 23:44 | 4738606 Rakshas
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..... A little more from WMR via Voltairenet....

Part I

Part II

and from out where the busses don't run..... but i like the picture of the wookie.....



Thu, 05/08/2014 - 01:14 | 4738741 palmereldritch
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Fun fact on that war criminal indicted by Christopher Hitchens known as Henry Kissinger:

Every U.S. national security adviser since Henry Kissinger has either worked with or for Kissinger - or he or she has worked with or for someone who worked with or for Kissinger.  *

*As excerpted from this handy compilation of excerpts located here:

From the website:

The world does not work the way we have been led to believe - by our mainstream media, by our politicians, by our corporations, by our financial institutions, by our military, by our schools. We are bombarded daily with so much misinformation, disinformation, propaganda, half-truths, and outright lies, that it takes a persistent individual to sort through the fog of information to find the truth.

The excerpted books on this website may help you destroy the myths, discover the truth, and educate yourself about how the world really works.


"During the past two centuries when the peoples of the world were gradually winning their political freedom from the dynastic monarchies, the major banking families of Europe and America were actually reversing the trend by setting up new dynasties of political control through the formation of international financial combines... these banking dynasties had learned that all governments must have sources of revenue from which to borrow in times of emergency. They had also learned that by providing such funds from their own private resources, they could make both kings and democratic leaders tremendously subservient to their will."  Carroll Quigley in his book "Tragedy and Hope"
Thu, 05/08/2014 - 02:57 | 4738833 matrix2012
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By the same author in VT, Obama’s Pedigree


More about the 1965-1966 coup and genocide, in one of the largest unknown mass killings of the 20th century, an estimated 500,000 to 1,000,000 people were secretly and systematically killed during that two-year clean-up. Read it  here.
Thu, 05/08/2014 - 03:13 | 4738841 ebear
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"Two evil peas in a death pod.   You advance to greatness in this country if you join the dark side."

I find your lack of faith.... disturbing.

Wed, 05/07/2014 - 20:37 | 4738020 LeisureSmith
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That Kissinger is an influential man and that Obama got to be POTUS is reason to be optimistic about America?

You just blew my mind... short-circuited, or whatever.

Wed, 05/07/2014 - 20:45 | 4738050 Arius
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sorry to have blown your mind ... i meant it in the sense that everyone can make it, doesnt matter where he comes from, his ethnicity, religion etc.etc....

Wed, 05/07/2014 - 22:43 | 4738437 Bollixed
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Ah yes, the pitfalls of Bogarting...

Thu, 05/08/2014 - 05:36 | 4738934 August
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... never bet against america!

Truly an exceptional place.  Only in Amurica could a poor little black boy like Michael Jackson grow up into... whatever.

Wed, 05/07/2014 - 20:04 | 4737903 RaceToTheBottom
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Kissinger is a Greenspam clone.  Or maybe the other way around.

Have you ever seen them in the same room?

They should both shuffle in front of fast moving buses.

Wed, 05/07/2014 - 21:25 | 4738202 Creeps
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Kissinger is a joke, he can't talk without drooling on himself.

Wed, 05/07/2014 - 21:47 | 4738259 acetinker
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Seems like Kissinger and Brzezsinski were old fucks since Nixon.  How long do these reptiles live?

Wed, 05/07/2014 - 23:45 | 4738609 Chuck Walla
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Jakob Schiff wrote the manual on this, I think.


Wed, 05/07/2014 - 23:45 | 4738610 Chuck Walla
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Jakob Schiff wrote the manual on this, I think.


Wed, 05/07/2014 - 19:51 | 4737860 spine001
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Non sensical article!

Wed, 05/07/2014 - 20:00 | 4737893 Redneck Hippy
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Conspiracy theory on steroids.  Banksters are WMD.

Wed, 05/07/2014 - 20:43 | 4738045 agent default
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Given a choice between stupidity and conspiracy, bet on stupidity. 

I am sure the highly nationalist Russians and the even more nationalist Chinese would trade in their sovereignty in exchange for some nebulous SDR based one world currency.  The basis of articles like this is the delusion that the East cannot do without the (insolvent) West, because the West is just so damn important for some reason.  So there has to be an all encompassing plan, global in scope, so that the West maintains some degree of relevance, because you know, the USD buys Treasuries that yield moar USDs to buy Treasuries with.

How about the East decides that they can trade their products and natural resources using their own currencies and tell the US and EU to take their funny money and go to hell.  And if they want to buy something, they better come up with something not made out of thin air. 

Wed, 05/07/2014 - 21:16 | 4738162 Lost Word
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Yes and No,

it is conspiracy taking power from stupidity.

Wed, 05/07/2014 - 20:08 | 4737920 nmewn
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No, its not, its dead nuts on.

Oh yeah, before I forget, about that Crimean vote on democracy!!! (lol)...yeah:

"The website of the “President of Russia’s Council on Civil Society and Human Rights” posted a blog that was quickly taken down as if it were toxic radioactive waste. According to the Council’s report about the March referendum to annex Crimea, the turnout was a maximum 30%. And of these, only half voted for annexation – meaning only 15 percent of Crimean citizens voted for annexation.

The fate of Crimea, therefore, was decided by the 15 percent of Crimeans, who voted in favor of unification with Russia (under the watchful eye of Kalashnikov-toting soldiers).

The official Crimean election results, as reported widely in the Western press, showed a 97 percent vote in favor of annexation with a turnout of 83 percent. No international observers were allowed. This pro-Russia election pressure would have raised the already weak vote in favor of annexation."

No word of the predicament of the pious Putin promotor prison place who put that up, just yet ;-)

(Thats all the "P's" I could squeeze in)

Wed, 05/07/2014 - 20:16 | 4737956 knukles
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So they don't have electronic voting, yet....

Wed, 05/07/2014 - 20:39 | 4737990 nmewn
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No, they still do it the old fashioned way, intimidation.

But what the hell, could have been Philly in 2008.


Is my junker a Black Panther, "progressive" or a Russian "speaker"?

Inquiring minds ;-)

Wed, 05/07/2014 - 21:21 | 4738188 Lost Word
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The Old Fashioned Way of Intimidation stealing

is what permitted the New Way of Cyber stealing

of money and "votes" and life.

Thu, 05/08/2014 - 03:28 | 4738847 ebear
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"The fate of Crimea, therefore, was decided by the 15 percent of Crimeans, who voted in favor of unification with Russia"

I find that number even less believable than the 97%.

Wonder what the vote would be now, post the Trade Union Massacre?

Put in perspective (yes, that was a pun) where would you rather live?  

Mexico, or Guatemala?

China or North Korea?

Iran or Syria?

I'd rather be a hammer than a nail.....

Come on everybody!  Sing!

Thu, 05/08/2014 - 03:43 | 4738863 ebear
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Speaking of Crimea, has anyone looked at property prices there recently?  

One of the rules I live by is: "this too shall pass"

I'm thinking Adriaitic waterfront post the break-up of Yugoslavia.

Anyone have a take on this?  

The place does look rather nice.


Wed, 05/07/2014 - 19:57 | 4737883 Dr. Engali
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When shit hits the fan pricing gold in dollars will be a fool's errand. The dollar value will be meaningless.

Wed, 05/07/2014 - 20:08 | 4737918 Redneck Hippy
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Because when the shit hits the fan, people will realize that gold is a useless yellow metal, with no calorie content, and awfully heavy to carry?

Wed, 05/07/2014 - 20:30 | 4737993 LetThemEatRand
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It is indeed heavy to carry.  That's why they are still seeking and finding literal shiploads of the useless metal at the bottom of the ocean from centuries past.  Of course the reason they pull it up from said ocean bottom doesn't really make sense from your point of view.  But it seems to make a few people happy.  Think they'll be scouring the ocean depths for dollars in a few hundred years?

Wed, 05/07/2014 - 20:56 | 4738104 agent default
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No, but there will be plenty at the bottom of sewage treatment plants soon if things keep going like this.

Wed, 05/07/2014 - 21:23 | 4738195 Lost Word
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Toilet Paper dollars?

Wed, 05/07/2014 - 23:44 | 4738604 HardlyZero
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June 1, 2014

No gas day since Ukraine will not pre-pay Gazprom.

Plenty of smoke and sparks will start flying.

Wed, 05/07/2014 - 23:02 | 4738498 Flagit
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Lets check that website that exclusively trades Confederate currency.

Wed, 05/07/2014 - 20:08 | 4737919 Winston Churchill
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This is the BIS plan, the IMF restructuring was a red herring because they knew Uncle Scam would never play.
I see lots of secessions coming in the near future in the US,
just as well DHS has all that ammo.

Wed, 05/07/2014 - 20:23 | 4737978 STG5IVE
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Good point.  One has to wonder what gold and silver will be valued in--SDR's?  Yuan?  If the dollar is worthless or near worthless, a dollar figure on gold and silver means nothing.  So, if metals are valued in SDR's, per se, and one ounce of gold is valued at say 5000 SDR--how far will 5000 SDR actually go?  As far as anyone knows, 5000 SDR could be worth less than what one ounce of gold is valued at today.  We won't really know until we actually get there because as of now we are so acustomed to a dollar paradigm.

Wed, 05/07/2014 - 20:48 | 4738064 Winston Churchill
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Go read that piece at
He thinks if they pull it off ,gold may go down.He's a stacker
so he doesn't like it, but realizes its a real possibility.
Longer term he sees a return to the gold standard as the SDR
is pure can kicking again by the Rothchilds.

Wed, 05/07/2014 - 23:55 | 4738629 james.connolly
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Longer term he sees a return to the gold standard as the SDR
is pure can kicking again by the Rothchilds.


Pretty much spot on, but use names like BUSH, FORD, ROCKEFELLER, GATES, ..

Billionaires alive today,...

Rothschild's is just BULLSHIT to take your eyes off the real people who are running the show TODAY,

Sure in the 1800's Roth's had power,... but now YOU have to read Carrol Quigley to understand how they stole that power ....

But I agree that SDR is can-kicking, ... just a vehicle to keep the USA from drowning in DEBT.

SDR paper-gold,... remember its only backed by paper.


Thu, 05/08/2014 - 04:52 | 4738911 Winston Churchill
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I call it as I see it.
You mention billionaires, I mention trillionaires.
Who do you think has the real power ?
Who are the owners of the worlds CB's ?

Thu, 05/08/2014 - 06:52 | 4738974 layman_please
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right you are. top elites went under the radar by buying up the media or shall i say 'the free press' long time ago. bush, gates (not sure about rockefellers though) et al are too much in the spotlight to be anything else than errand boys.

Wed, 05/07/2014 - 21:25 | 4738201 Lost Word
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Are any of the other currencies in the SDR basket of currencies backed by Gold?

Just changing the name of the same old paper money.

Wed, 05/07/2014 - 23:51 | 4738624 james.connolly
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That's right, the SDR is just a USD derivative,... even now when you BUY/SELL SDR's its in USD, and you can assume UN will keep it this way.

Outstanding derivatives today are $1200 Trillions USD, so you can assume that the PTB want to run the SDR up to that level so that accounts balance, today it don't look good that we're rich on paper, but don't have shit in reality :(

SDR is just another clever smoke & mirror trick to keep the USA alive,...

This SDR backed by GOLD is complete fucking shit, ... SDR is backed by a basket of currency, and the USD makes the majority holding.

When the SDR was created they called it "PAPER GOLD", because all GOLD was gone, ... FUNNY when the assholes created BITCOIN they called it VIRTUAL GOLD, ... a ponzi is a ponzi

The SDR kept the USA in biz post 1970's, and got the USA through 2008,... but the future, is unknown.

Personally ALL UN/IMF (USA/UK/ISRAEL) bullshit should be flushed down the TOILET, we need a full fucking reset for the world, without the USA policeman.

Thu, 05/08/2014 - 17:26 | 4741194 Bemused Observer
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Yep, it's an illusion, and most people don't see it. It is in fact the GOLD that is stable in value, and the fiat currency that changes in relation to it. Gold has historically maintained approx. that same value for as long as we've been digging it up. And today a Roman gold coin STILL retains the value of it's gold content long after Rome is gone. Their fiat currencies however, in the form of copper and bronze coins, regularly turn up in gardens throughout Europe like pennies do here, and are mostly just curiosities...

I almost never think of things in terms of their declared "dollar" value anymore. I look at a thing, and decide what I'd be willing to exchange it for. Then I calculate the value of THOSE things in today's dollars, and that's the most I'd pay for the new thing using dollars. It's the only way I can figure out what something is REALLY worth in dollars.


Wed, 05/07/2014 - 20:31 | 4737995 i_call_you_my_base
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If it plays out like this guy says, it will be confiscated.

Wed, 05/07/2014 - 20:40 | 4738038 TruthTalker
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They can try but the people will revolt.  Smart people have their gold in several places all over the world.

Wed, 05/07/2014 - 20:39 | 4738033 Bemused Observer
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Yes, but gold's REAL value will remain amazingly stable. An ounce has basically gotten you the equivalent of a good suit and a nice dinner, no matter WHAT the currency values do. There are wild swings in uncertain times, but when things settle again, you can be sure that ounce of gold will get you whatever passes for a good suit and a nice dinner.

Wed, 05/07/2014 - 21:32 | 4738229 james.connolly
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I started using Beer long ago,... an ounce of GOLD will get you about 400 pints at most times in the past 100 years,

But I'm talking about PISS BEER, not the good stuff.


Just keep your money in a currency backed by GOLD and your BEER consumption will NEVER change, enough said.

100 years ago a good pint in the USA cost a nickel, now its $6,... and that my friends is inflation; at an USA airport you might pay $10 for a good pint

Thu, 05/08/2014 - 04:43 | 4738904 WillyGroper
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Wasn't it Kyle Bass that stated "they're going to kill the dollar"?

Wed, 05/07/2014 - 23:01 | 4738499 Buck Johnson
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I agree, gold is going to go up alot further than 10,000 dollars an ounce.  I think that was an optomistic value.  And he is correct, they are trying to find a way to collapse the dollar reserve and the system and not be blamed but some outside party.  Because they know what will happen, things for mr. and mrs. America will become expensive and inflation will be even more so if not hints of hyperinflation.  Our economic system in the US will go into a tailspin down into the gutter and the politicians will be doing everything and anything to blame said event for the increase in poverty and less purchasing power of the dollar.

Wed, 05/07/2014 - 19:58 | 4737889 Dickweed Wang
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Wed, 05/07/2014 - 19:49 | 4737851 Chuck Knoblauch
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Staged for the slavery of the masses.

Managed societies.

Planned communities.

No wonder why it feels so Communist to me.

So, anti-American.

Are you a happy slave or a sad slave?

The only two options, if that's what you want?

Wed, 05/07/2014 - 19:49 | 4737853 _SILENCER
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The dollar is like a fat kid in front of a Tommy Gun

Wed, 05/07/2014 - 19:50 | 4737857 ebworthen
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So "hang the banksters" still holds water.

Wed, 05/07/2014 - 19:51 | 4737858 Cacete de Ouro
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The Rothschilds and the Venetian families are the masters of this tension, crisis, rescue cycle. Always have's tiresome

Wed, 05/07/2014 - 19:58 | 4737886 d edwards
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In light of recent events, I'd still like someone to ask 0bamao exactly what he meant when he told Medvedev to "tell Vladymir I'll have more flexiblity after the election." Flexibility to do WHAT  exactly?


Putin is a communist, 0bamao is a socialist-the difference?


A commie takes power at the point of a gun


A socialist takes power at the point of a pen: quote 0bamao "I have a pen..."

That's all.

Wed, 05/07/2014 - 20:04 | 4737905 A Lunatic
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He meant he will have finished his tantric yoga classes and will be able to bend over and take it like a man(child).......

Wed, 05/07/2014 - 20:45 | 4738025 james.connolly
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Anglo-American Empire ran out of UK/USA/ISRAEL. Brandon-Smith is like a voice of 'ALT' for AIPAC. Read Carrol Quigley understand how the UK/USA took over the world. Nothing about Rothschild, or freemasons, all about Cecile Rhodes, Ford, Bush, ...Rockefeller;


IMF-SDR is coming, but what old Brandon fails to remind dear leader that YES 'Kissinger', but that IMF is UN, and UN is rockefeller; The USA/UK is very much in control of UN, just like they control NATO. ZH has been calling for 'demise of USD' forever, and unicorns rejoice, to be replaced by GOLD, ... whoopee BS tells us that the IMF-SDR is backed by GOLD. Sure everybody is supposed to play along, ... sure the PTB have cultivated in every country; Sure that PTB nations have all worked together to murder 50 million arab/persians who will 'never' go along

. >>> BS say's little, and ignores a LOT.

GOLD goes up? Relative to USD? Probably NOT; This thing will not end with a bang, but a whimper, the 'takeover' of IMF-SDR will be gradual, and most likely ALL will continue to be pegged to the USD.

Sure the EAST/WEST paradigm is BULLLSHIT (BS), but so is left/right, top/bottom, and semite/anti-semite.


All want to PRINT to INFINITY for FREE just like USA, the IMF allows everybody to play along,... so how long will IMF-SDR last? Not long, ... many like SWISS will hold out, and all know that 'good money' is dear, and toilet paper is worthless.

They will never get everybody aboard, ... hell look at EURO, in spite USA/UK running the SHOW, Britain never went off the POUND, in spite of the fact they engineered everything all along.

Does as I say, NOT AS I DO...

USD is king today ( MURDER ) and will be KING tomorrow, I don't see the USD or British-LB going away, ... most likely the rest of the world will use IMF-SDR's pegged to USD,...

The GAME is always the same, .. everybody on board but back at home UK/USA refuse to ratify by that time everybody on board, but USA/UK say ahh shucks couldn't get it passed.

This way USA/UK continue to print to INFINITY, but all the rest of the world is on their IMF-SDR YOKE.

Wed, 05/07/2014 - 20:56 | 4738106 FredFlintstone
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So holding dollars is not a bad position for the next decade or so? What is your investment advice?

Wed, 05/07/2014 - 21:27 | 4738210 james.connolly
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Thanks FRED, I guess sometimes one needs to state what other seems to be an Obvious.

Keep your money in HKD in a bank that is untouchable by OBAMA's Kleptocrat's.

The HKD is tied to the USD, the night before the USD fails your HKD's will be tied to CNY.

This way you ENJOY 'wealth by murder' as long as the game is played, and every will may last 5-10 years ... who the fuck knows?

What we do know is 'reserve currency' is 40 year life average, the USA is already on 40, from the last 'reset' in 1970's.

So the USA is already in ZOMBIE,... its' going to go down, but sadly it will keep going up until down,... ONLY A LIAR and a FOOL CAN TELL YOU WHEN.

Thus that's why HKD tied to USD is smartest, the CHINESE who are paying the best minds on the planet to WATCH this shit will decouple the HKD from USD when they're ready to pull the plug.

This way you have the CHINESE 'jews' taking care of your money, and when they're ready to kill the USD the night before your HKD becomes CNY.

Sorry Fred, ask me the 'time' I will tell  you how to build a clock, ... habit.


One last  thing yes I own GOLD, and I GOT REGISTER HELD, and BURIED,... but if the SHTF anywhere on earth,... I can't carry the fucking GOLD, ... so you need to have your 'wealth' somewhere that can be trusted, ... that's why I talk about this HKD device.

Today it very smart, I can travel the world like a pauper and carry not a fucking thing, not even a fucking card,

Yet I can go online, and have money transferred to a new account where ever I may go,...

I carry nothing for customs to find, ... and nobody know's shit.

The problem with GOLD is they will find it and take it. Same for carrying CURRENCY.

Maybe a SIM up your ass, maybe a TONGLE for your RSA code, something just passwords aren't enough, but you need to be able to leave, with just the clothes on your back at any time.


I know I know 'bitcoin' was to solve this "FUCK YOU" bitcoin is NSA, GOOGLE is CIA, ...

Lastly some bitch yesterday said we LUDDITES, ... fuck you too, We hate the GUBMINT, not technology.

Google isn't TECH, its GUBMINT (CIA).

Thu, 05/08/2014 - 04:57 | 4738915 WillyGroper
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I seem to recall Ackman having a fairly large bet on HKD.

Thu, 05/08/2014 - 06:07 | 4738961 August
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>>>Keep your money in HKD in a bank that is untouchable by OBAMA's Kleptocrat's.

The HKD is tied to the USD, the night before the USD fails your HKD's will be tied to CNY.

I've heard this advice from so many sources for so long, the idea has got to be subject to some major, not-quite-like-shooting-fish-in-a-barrel negative surprises. I mean, even Simon Black has been pushing this idea for years.

Still, since I don't actually have much use for USDs, I do keep my USD exposure through HKD, and also use the CAD, since Canuckistan will likely never let the loonie get too disconnected from Uncle Sugar's dollar....

Thu, 05/08/2014 - 06:12 | 4738963 FredFlintstone
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Thanks. I think I recall you saying something about using Paypal to move money around at one time. If so, how do you do that?

Wed, 05/07/2014 - 19:54 | 4737872 ultimate warrior
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You guys have to listen to this Rick Santelli exchange with Liesman and some other dumb shit.

I don't even know what to say. Perfect combination of being disingenuous and stupid I guess.



Wed, 05/07/2014 - 20:06 | 4737913 ebworthen
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Jack Bouroudjian is the other dumb shit - a true acolyte of financial engineering where punishing savers while rewarding Wall Street parasites is good (because that's where his paycheck comes from).  A stupid disingenuous turd - just not quite as massive a human bowel movement as Steve Liesman is.

Kelly is a spicy little tart - the casting couch got some action with that one.

Bill Griffith's is an old pro, knows it's all bullshit, and is along for the ride with some wry grins and subtle puns of sanity.

Wed, 05/07/2014 - 19:58 | 4737888 IridiumRebel
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Brandon Smith is a favorite. I knew something seemed shitty. Divide and conquer folks....

Wed, 05/07/2014 - 20:13 | 4737943 DaddyO
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Agreed on Brandon Smith!

He is the one who sent me to ZH back when I was trying to get my head around the whole derivitives thing.


Wed, 05/07/2014 - 20:37 | 4738021 nmewn
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You just have to stand back a second, survey the landscape as it is, let "patriotism & nationalism" subside in your heart (just like they do), see what this is really about, who they are and their intent.

Oligarch-statist-fascist-socialist...on a global scale.

Wed, 05/07/2014 - 20:50 | 4738073 DaddyO
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This article is as clear a look at the next 12-18 months as I've seen in quite sometime.

Joel Skousen is the only other writer who seems to be as close on this NWO strategy and timeline.


Wed, 05/07/2014 - 21:27 | 4738212 UselessEater
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Even Skousen seems to be shortening his timelines.

Of interest, Catherin Austin Fitts and her "Breakaway Civilisation" meme is also an interesting aspect of this strategy. The entire USA won't crumble, the Breakaway Civilisation is geared to prosper and is part of this NWO strategy.

Wed, 05/07/2014 - 20:02 | 4737892 Chuck Knoblauch
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If Henry Kissinger is still alive in 30 years, can we call him an alien?

A demon?

He's no angel.


Wed, 05/07/2014 - 20:08 | 4737922 Boomberg
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You gotta think these reptilians have some sort of elixir that keeps them above ground only available to the high priests of evil. Cheney should have been dead 20 years ago. 

Wed, 05/07/2014 - 20:10 | 4737936 Bear
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Money has a tendency to keep one alive longer ... Long Live the Fiat

Wed, 05/07/2014 - 20:55 | 4738094 james.connolly
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FREE FIAT to INFINITY,... why in the HELL would the CHENEY's of this earth ever give this shit up?

They will NOT. Fact.


All is show,... all is theatre, and all is CHEAP talk.

The IMF-SDR has been around 40+ years and has been used by UN-IMF ( rockefeller/ford/carnegie ) all along...

Will your EBT for the FSA use IMF-SDR when you BUY cheeto's & spam? Probably not


Talking about 'conspiracy theory',

Apply OCCAM's RAZOR; Simplify ... Malcolm X said it well in the 1960's about 'anglo american' aka white hegemony "NEVER give whitey credit to RULE the world", ... he ain't smart enough.

Sure TEAM-BS ( brandon ), want to think they're this smart, and sure the UN-IMF has been working on this NWO ( NAZI blue print ) for 60 years, ... but the world is made of CHAOS, and we move towards More Entropy and not Less.

All you can be assured of is that their will be MORE killing.

But the NARRATIVE that FREE FIAT TO INFINITE for BUSH klan will go away, ... is pure feedstock for  unicorns, aka BS.

Wed, 05/07/2014 - 20:01 | 4737896 lordbyroniv
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Depressing Stuff      :(

Wed, 05/07/2014 - 20:08 | 4737927 Bear
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"growing “tensions” between the elites of the West and the elites of the East over the crisis in Ukraine"

There is no tension ... they already have it figured out; Obama and Putin regularly talk about the unfolding probably to discuss how they can best protect themselves and friends in the coming flare-up.

The only ones who have the 'tension' are the poor slobs that have to duke it out on the streets of Donetsk and Luhansk when only following orders.

Wed, 05/07/2014 - 20:13 | 4737944 s2man
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I thought Russia had almost 0 foregien debt...

Wed, 05/07/2014 - 20:13 | 4737945 fonzannoon
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where is the Putin man love crowd? I expect outrage.

Wed, 05/07/2014 - 20:28 | 4737991 new game
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fooled again...

Wed, 05/07/2014 - 20:51 | 4738080 nmewn
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Maybe one-week olds can't stand the strain ;-)

Wed, 05/07/2014 - 20:51 | 4738081 Dr. Engali
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Off watching Putin Porn someplace. I guess in his latest episode he wrestled a hippopotamus to the ground after he finished sky diving from the international space station. After he finished he crushed a Red Bull and fucked the Dallas Cowboy cheerleaders then bitch slapped Obama for good measure.

Wed, 05/07/2014 - 20:52 | 4738084 nmewn
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Wed, 05/07/2014 - 21:14 | 4738165 DaddyO
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The good Dr. has a vivid imagination!

Made me spit half-chewed Peanut M&M's all over the monitor.


Wed, 05/07/2014 - 21:22 | 4738190 fonzannoon
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that was tremendous.

Wed, 05/07/2014 - 21:32 | 4738228 nmewn
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He must be taking lessons from knukles or stooging, that was fucking

Thu, 05/08/2014 - 03:36 | 4738855 w a l k - a w a y
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What a bunch of great thinkers/writers.

Y'all make my day, everyday.

Wed, 05/07/2014 - 21:11 | 4738154 james.connolly
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On many occasion I have discussed how the PTB bought off Gorbachev back in the day.

Now PUTIN is the 'man', when he get's BOUGHT OFF I will tell you all,

For NOW putin is far more entertaining than 'PUSS IN BOOTS' (obama the kunt ) running the USA.

BS is not entirely correct; but a known known that I know is that


Mossad CIA MSS KGB MI-6 work closer together than you all might think,... all this INTEL started about the same time..

MSS is china CIA,...

There are many layers to the ONION here, and the INTEL people like to think they too are running the world,...

On the other hand you have to feed or kill your starving masses,...

PTB are just men, ... easy to KILL, and they know that all human's are 97% water.


We love PUTIN because he's telling the TRUTH, WE hate Obama because he is a MAN-WHORE.

Why do the RUSSIAN's get MAN leader's and the USA get UNICORN's as leaders?


Wed, 05/07/2014 - 21:33 | 4738230 Lost Word
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Just part of the alternating cycle.

Earlier there was Reagan and Yeltsin, although not quite simultaneously.

Wed, 05/07/2014 - 23:37 | 4738590 james.connolly
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RAYGUN was never a man, and if you think he was a man, then you must have read history books.

Raygun was a failed porn star in the 20's/30's

In the 1940's RAYGUN was a 'B' movie actor that played beside monkeys. "Bedtime for Gonzo", was his only HIT.

If you can't act, you go into Hollywood Politics

In the 1950's RAYGUN became a hollywood Political PAC boss, where he did the HITLER speeches and discovered by GE ( MIC ), they groomed him and made him into an OBAMA.

They made RAYGUN into a governor in CALIF, then groomed him to be prez.

But understand that RAYGUN was a fucking man-whore that got groomed just like OBama.

Wed, 05/07/2014 - 20:50 | 4737962 RaceToTheBottom
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Good article.

This explains why china is buying gold hand over fist and yet has printed 3 times as much funny money as the US (as posted here on ZH).

Wed, 05/07/2014 - 20:20 | 4737969 BanksterSlayer
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Well done, Tyler. You finally came right out and verbalized what everybody was thinking, but didn't want to admit: the NWO is alive and well. We just happen to be living through one of those millenia-old Swings of the Pendulum when the Babylonian harlot swings her favor from West to East.

If the elites of her creation had any balls, they would unite, rise up, and crush her.

Wed, 05/07/2014 - 20:28 | 4737989 new game
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so a few dead pawns in ukraine? chump change for banker. now i feel so stupid for caring about my fellow good humans.

direct your anger at the _______s...

Wed, 05/07/2014 - 20:50 | 4738070 RaceToTheBottom
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I don't think china (and Russia, for that matter) are buying gold to jockey for inclusion into the SDR.

That is a given.  I think that they are both jockeying for a better, more advantages conversion ratio.

If they crash the dollar enough, maybe some middle class, manufacturing jobs come back to America......  NAW, that's just crazy talk.  We are talking about Banksters here...

Wed, 05/07/2014 - 23:31 | 4738582 james.connolly
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Exactly everyone on earth is getting out of USD and into HARD-ASSET as quick as they can.

Me thinks, me pray's that all this shit ends .... that

1.) USD dies

2.) USA collapses

3.) IMF and ALL UN USA/UK faux org's die

4.) That all UN shit collapse

Then and only then can we have a real fucking reset.

In summary WRT to BS,... his narrative is the way AIPAC would like it to end,... its not going to end this way BS, all your shit is going down.


Wed, 05/07/2014 - 20:53 | 4738086 jg
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I don't buy this, that Russia is a secret ally -- wink, wink -- of the U.S., and is biding the wishes of the NWO.

Russia and China are broadening and deepening their economic and military ties.  China has been buying gold, big-time.  The U.S. quite probably has been selling gold, big-time.

Why would China, on the ascendancy economically and militarily, broaden and deepen ties with a purported secret ally of the U.S.?  Why would it knowingly let a Trojan Horse into its fold?

Russia may have connections here and there to the NWO; so does China.

But, the U.S. has been humiliated in Syria, Libya, and Ukraine.  Its attempts to start a war with Iran, then WW3, have failed miserably.

If Putin ever had any desire to lead the world in concert with the U.S., he has moved on.  Russia is in a very comfortable and safe position, compared to the U.S.

My sense is that Putin has wisely tied his and Russia's fortunes to China.  My sense is that China will have very little to do with the NWO, despite all the trips by Kissinger, Kerry, et al.

Why would China want to share power with such a murderous outfit as the NWO, when China itself will be in the world's driver's seat, economically?  Why share power, control, and influence, when there is no need to?

Putin is no saint, but he has displayed real restraint and a great sense of foresightedness in dealing with developments in Crimea and the Ukraine, in stark contrast with the U.S.  Hilarious, that the head of the CIA had to travel to the Ukraine, to get things moving again.  Mr. Brennan will have much penance to perform in this life or next.


Wed, 05/07/2014 - 21:03 | 4738133 james.connolly
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There is a profound reason why MOMMA-BRANDON named her spawn BS,...

So we're told that USA has no gold, but that IMF has 3,000 ton's of GOLD, but WAIT, the IMF is the UN, and under PTB USA/UK control,... how can it be that the USA has not GOLD, yes the IMF under their contol has GOLD?

Has anybody seen this massive GOLD at the IMF? Has anybody seen the USA gold? probably not for neither,... but me thinks that all the GOLD is NOT in the CHINA or RUSSIA;

One thing we can be sure of is that EVERYTHING we're fed is BS.

[ BS a clever 2 letter device for BULL SHIT ]

Wed, 05/07/2014 - 21:38 | 4738240 Lost Word
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The Golden Rule:

He who has the gold, rules.

Banksters have the Gold.

Governments are controlled by Banksters who have the Gold.

Thu, 05/08/2014 - 07:45 | 4739105 Helg Saracen
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You are all morons. And the secret is out.

 No offense, but do not need to destroy the Soviet Union, destroying the Soviet Union United States slowly killing themselves.

Wed, 05/07/2014 - 20:53 | 4738090 Saratoga
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How does one buy an SDR?

Wed, 05/07/2014 - 20:54 | 4738095 Dr. Engali
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Sell your soul to a banker.

Wed, 05/07/2014 - 23:25 | 4738572 Lost Word
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Same as selling your soul to the devil.

Wed, 05/07/2014 - 20:59 | 4738118 james.connolly
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Good question, problem the answer takes weeks, and sorry unicorns there is NO Google/YOUTUBE(CIA) video channel for the reading disabled.

The currency value of the SDR is determined by summing the values in U.S. dollars

You want your SDR you can have your SDR, but they MUST be bought in USD

The USD collapsed in the 1970's,... ever since then the IMF has been using the SDR as a DATUM,...

Wed, 05/07/2014 - 21:14 | 4738161 agent default
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So the main thesis of the article is that there is a conspiracy to crash the USD, in order to make the SDR into a global currency, when in fact the SDR is just  a USD derivative.  

Now the article makes perfect sense.\sarc

Wed, 05/07/2014 - 21:27 | 4738215 DaddyO
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Think of it this way, the USD was the host used to create and nurture the SDR.

Now that the SDR has a life of its own, the host can be killed.

Just another Hollywood movie script...


Wed, 05/07/2014 - 23:28 | 4738405 james.connolly
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Take away the /sarc and your are 100% correct.

What would one expect of a PONZI?

The USD should have died in the 1970's,...

The USD should be dead now...

The conspiracy is how the MEDIA hides this truth, that all narrative is BS ( BULLSHIT, not Brand Smith, ... whoops a synonym )

What do you call a DERIVATIVE that is valued over $1200 trillion USD?


How long will they be able to play this game? Given they're making people DUMBER,... They can continue to play for a long fucking time....

What BS is doing here is making this DERIVATIVE "EVERYONES" problem, rather than just uncle-sam's problem.

If the world were smart they would distance themselves from this HUMOUNGOUS fucking derivative, ... cuz it will fall off the wall.

Wed, 05/07/2014 - 21:41 | 4738247 Lost Word
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If the dollar is almost zero, the other currencies in the basket

relative to the dollar

can buy

almost unlimited dollars, and hence, SDR's.

Wed, 05/07/2014 - 21:21 | 4738189 blindman
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you don't buy them, you are either born with them or
you borrow them.

Wed, 05/07/2014 - 21:42 | 4738248 Lost Word
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If you are a bankster, you create it out of nothing.

Wed, 05/07/2014 - 21:05 | 4738119 blindman
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bingo. the hand that gives is above the hand
that receives and the trick of "money" is to
invert the reality of that relationship, to
trance the local into the false belief that it
is receiving when it is actually giving. so much
for transparency, aye.

Wed, 05/07/2014 - 21:14 | 4738163 Bemused Observer
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We allowed these people to monetize our lives, in return for their empty promises of better, more, and now.

Wed, 05/07/2014 - 22:20 | 4738351 Radical Marijuana
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This article strikes me as being probably correct, although I feel it underestimates the degree to which "the elitist establishment" has become criminally insane, and overestimates the degree to which there are those "who are smart enough to recognize their poison."

The basic problem is the nature of Neolithic Civilization controlling itself on the basis of which human beings are the best at being dishonest and backing that up with violence, while the rest are able to be fooled, or forced. Nothing about the "success" of that system is able to address or respond to radical truths outside of its social systems of triumphant lies.

SDRs are merely more "money" made out of nothing as debts, on a more globalized scale, which will enable more social polarization, and more strip-mining of planet Earth. Nothing about the relative success of the social pyramid systems, within their human context, copes with their basic problems of being based on enforced frauds, which enable attitude of evil deliberate ignorance.

There continues to be nothing in the "successes" of the ruling classes within the social pyramid systems, nor in their controlled opposition, that can cope with progress in science and technology. There cannot possibly be! The problem is whether social systems based on thousands of years of backing up lies with violence can cope with the development of scientific methods, which continue to NOT be applied by those social systems to actually understand themselves any better.

This article is very probably correct about what is playing through, within the currently established social pyramid systems. However, it does not address the real problems within that, but rather continues to have a superficial view regarding resistance against the ruling classes, without providing any radical ideas about how to operate sufficiently different human and industrial ecologies, which could be reconciled with natural ecologies.

The basic problem is the potential of the industrial revolution, which was enabled by the scientific methods, amplifying the social pyramid systems by many orders of magnitude. So far, human society has naturally been attempting to adapt the minimum it can to those developments, so that it could mostly stay the same. Therefore, nothing has happened other than the social pyramid systems being amplified to more and more astronomical sizes.

This article is based on the extrapolation of the ideas that the ruling classes are going to continue to do more of that, while it proposes only the same old-fashioned notions of possible resistance against that process. However, I repeat, in my view the crucial point is that the ruling classes have become criminally insane, while their controlled oppostion shares in the same kinds of criminally insane attitudes too, because they both continue presuming that it will be possible for technologies which are trillions of times more powerful to be channeled through social pyramid systems which are based on enforced frauds. The Grand Canyon Paradoxes, which are BIGGER than the whole of Neolithic Civilization, are the contradictions between ruling through the basis of enforced frauds, while those are amplified by the scientific methods. The intellectual scientific revolutions which are going to be driven through are the consequences of what happens when the head-on collisions between enforced frauds versus the scientific methods, crash into each other. The enforced frauds become globablized electronic frauds, with the SDRs supposed to segue from the American Dollar, while somehow there is a global government able to use violence to enforce that fraud, presumeably through an attempt at monopolizing weapons of mass destruction.

THE BASIC PROBLEM IS THAT SDRS ARE STILL FUNDAMENTALLY FRAUDULENT. Therefore, their success is still unsustainable, both because they continue to drive social polarizations, as well as continue to enable strip-mining the planet. SDRs would be an attempt to consolidate a globalized government, social pyramid system, dominating everyone through enforced frauds, requiring universal attitudes of evil deliberate ignorance. However, the consequences of attempting to continue to operate like that, despite all of the other progress in science and technology, which still deliberately does NOT get applied to understand civilization itself, continues to create a more and more untenable and unsustainable human future.

In my view, authors like Brandon Smith continue to provide relatively good analysis of the problems, but do not come remotely close to the intellectual scientific revolutions which would be necessary to cope with the bigger and deeper problems. There is nothing within either the ruling classes, nor their controlled opposition, that provides any possible ways for social pyramid systems to be amplified to more astronomical sizes, without them being driven through radical changes of state, in one way or another, sooner or later ... Progress in science, within social pyramid systems, constantly amplifies systems of enforced frauds, without ever changing their basic problem that they are based on frauds.

Any sufficiently radical truth about that can not be found within the current ruling classes, nor within any of their controlled opposition groups. I continue to be in favour of a global government, but as a Translithic Civilization, not a consolidation of a globalized social pyramid systems. I am not in favour of attempting the impossible of stopping the fascist plutocracy, but rather, I advocate retooling it to accomplish purposes better.

The most important problem continues to be how can human beings run their murder systems, after they have developed weapons of mass destruction. Neither the USA, nor Russia, have made any apparent progress in that regard. Indeed, they do not appear to have the first clue about what it would take to resolve that dilemma. The ruling classes that are supposed to be the behind the scenes puppet masters do not appear to have a clue either, but rather continue to risk that situation going out of control, in criminally insane ways. The controlled opposition also appears to be totally full of bullshit, in that they even less tend to provide any ideas about how to operate better death controlling murder systems, after the development of weapons of mass destruction.

SDRs are a "solution" that stays within the social pyramid systems, and is supposed to keep them going, by having an even bigger globalized fraud, which would somehow still be able to be effectively enforced. The basic problems that SDRs would still be fraudulent is not being addressed. That kind of fiat money fraudulence only works because it can be enforced. The question of enforcement then comes right back to the dilemmas presented by the existence of weapons of mass destruction.

Since, in my view, the ruling classes are quite criminally insane, and their controlled opposition groups are, so far, not any better, I tend to believe that future human history will become a rather wildly out-of-control roller coaster ride, which has never been tested before. The kinds of intellectual scientific revolutions which would be necessary to enable a more scientific society, rather than a social pyramid system based on enforced frauds, would make all other previous profound paradigm shifts in the history of science look like child's play by comparison.

Wed, 05/07/2014 - 23:26 | 4738562 james.connolly
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IMF-SDR means Death

In the 1970's they called SDR a "PAPER GOLD", ... just like BITCOIN, a virtual currency that was the same as gold that could be pulled out of the ARSE to INFINITE.

I have said all along here that SHOULD 'we' go to the IMF-SDR, that the killing will continue, that under the IMF-SDR program, UNCLE-SAM is the world's policeman, and then it will be worse than now, ... anybody that does business on earth without trading in SDR's will have their children murdered.

Now we just have the CIA making sure the black-market is in USD, and the OIL.

In the FUTURE every fucking thing on earth must move between country's in SDR, otherwise you DIE.

What this means is that for country's that don't KOWTOW to UNCLE-SAM, they starve.

Call this fucking PROGRESS? NOT


What is needed is for the USA to die, and a complete reset, and the abolish ALL USA institutions like IMF, UN, NATO, ...

Hardly a 'reset' if the USA get's MORE power to KILL.

In summary, SDR means more control, it means unelected TECHNOCRATS in LONDON/TEL-AVIV can pull levers and control the fucking world.


Thu, 05/08/2014 - 04:58 | 4738912 Radical Marijuana
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A correct way to summarize the basic problem that "SDR means RIGHT to DRAW MONEY OUT OF YOUR ASS."

Being able to make "money" out of nothing is a fraud that only works because it can be enforced, and even then, that distortion of enforcing frauds automatically gets worse. Therefore, the vicious spirals of controlling civilization with lies automatically gets worse, faster! There is no doubt that the banksters are attempting to consolidate their accomplishment of having the extraordinary privilege of being legally able to create the public "money" supply out of nothing, while that fraud continues to be enforced upon everyone else.

Such fraud is symbolic robbery. As I said, that not only drives runaway social polarization between those who have the power to legally counterfeit the public "money" supply against everyone else that is not allowed to do that, BUT, MORE IMPORTANTLY, IT ALSO FINANCES THE STRIP-MINING OF THE PLANET.

Therefore, I agree with your first level of analysis, james.connolly, that "IMF-SDR means Death." However, I would then ask, at least theoretically, what would be the better death controls, to back up better debt controls, instead of the current social pyramid systems of tiny ruling classes having privatized control over the monetary systems?

After reading many of your comments, I get the impression, james-connelly, that you are well-aware of the possible deeper levels of the deceits that control civilization. However, so far, I have gained no sense of your notions of how to, perhaps, at least theoretically, run any better human and industrial ecologies, which necessarily must have their death controlling murder systems at the heart of that ... In practice it appears to me that the history of the real death controls done through the maximum deceits has made resolving the problems of how to operate a better human ecology look practically impossible. But nevertheless, there should be at least some nod towards the theoretical point that THERE ARE CHRONIC POLITICAL PROBLEMS INHERENT IN THE NATURE OF LIFE, WHICH MUST BE RESOLVED SOMEHOW!

While I appreciate that any "complete reset" may well go out of control, indeed, almost must go out of control, there could still at least be some theoretical indications of what better systems might replace the social pyramid systems? I like the idea that society is actually a toroidal vortex already, because I regard everything else as operating as nested toroidal vortices. In that way, the social pyramid is an over-simplified metaphor, that deliberately ignores the ways that the top and bottom are connected.

My view is that, ideally, the goal would be to partially stabilize the social pyramid systems, to the degree that might be possible, and then use them as the centering scaffolding to build an arch upon, or to be building a global government that was more like an Earth dome, or a living toroidal vortex. That would gradually enable the established ways that the currently combined money/murder systems operated to become more self-aware, and be transformed by that self-awareness. That is, I continue to be in favour of some global government, but NOT one that is a global social pyramid, but rather one that is a global toroidal vortex.

What I am suggesting is mostly based on paradigm shifts, which perceive what already exists differently, indeed radically different. The fascist plutocracy gets retooled by that. The runaway hypocrisies get made less impossible, but rather more approachable, because the ideals become more realistic, rather than based upon impossible ideals which must necessarily backfire badly in the real world. It is mostly a question of higher consciousness about the death controls which already exist, so that those could be done better, rather than death controls so deeply buried under bullshit and deceits that they must be done in extremely inferior ways.

What I am always suggesting is the emergence of better murder systems, which accept working through the dilemmas that there must be some death controls, but recognize that old-fashioned warfare, after the develop of weapons of mass destruction, is too suicidal a way to operate the death control systems. At the present time, we still have most of our death controls operating through the maximum possible deceits and/or evil deliberate ignorance. Since the controlled opposition tends to promote the impossible ideals that there ought not be any death controls at all, we are not developing better militarism, but rather, continue to have nothing by the MAD strategy of Mutual Assured Destruction, to cope with weapons of mass destruction, while the pressures of the currently combined money/murder systems keep on pushing and pushing things to dance further out of the precipices of that MADNESS!

Anyway, understanding the deeper levels of deceits that are controlling civilization still is not useful, unless there is at least some theoretical way to get out of their maze of MAD contradictions. I assert that, in principles, money MUST be measurement backed by murder. At present, that is done by the ruling classes, who have privatized control over the public "money" supply, while the vast majority of people act like Zombie Sheeple, who do not understand that, because they do not want to understand that.

In my view, the better theoretical solutions, ideally, require more people to become more competent citizens, who take more responsibility for operating the murder systems, which back up the monetary systems. I know that, at present, that suggestion appears to be so practically impossible that it looks ludicrous and laughable. However, at least it is a theoretical answer to the question of what else to have, other than a runaway social pyramid system, getting steeper and more destructive, where the ruling classes rob everyone else, and the natural world, while making sure that almost everyone lives within the triumphantly enforced frauds, by having attitudes of evil deliberate ignorance towards them actually doing that!

To not be deliberately ignorant about the ways that the death controls back up the debt controls would require becoming more conscious of how those actually operate, in order to operate them better. That is the kind of global government that I am pointing towards, as my idealized goal. That could be the current fascist plutocracy, ending up being retooled by higher consciousness about itself.

Thu, 05/08/2014 - 05:10 | 4738923 james.connolly
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Short & Sweet is my preference RM, .. I'm an EMMA GOLDMAN anarchist, I'm quite clear on my leaning.

Emma Goldman defined 'anarchism' as "COMMUNALISM, in its purest form". Note I didn't say COMMUNISM, I said "COMMUNALISM"

Even in Tuscany Italy, its still essentially communal, same family makes bread for generations, same family sell's stamps, jobs are never lost,... boys never go without marriage. All over the world there are example's of 'communalism'. Live it or die in misery.

Peace my friend. Hell not far from me the old women openly sell 'ganja' in the open market,


The solution? When they come to your village to build a CORP-FAST  shit retail center, .. BURN the BITCH to the GROUND, ... they really do go away.

Thu, 05/08/2014 - 16:03 | 4740967 Radical Marijuana
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"Hell not far from me the old women openly sell 'ganja' in the open market" ... Tuscany, Italy, sounds good! I remember the Zero Hedge articles that explained how the German people were actually living like they were poorer than the Italians, because the Germans got taxed so much, and paid them, while the Italians had perfected ways for a long time to avoid being taxes. Hence, the actual quality of life of Italians was NOT like the official statistics were saying, but rather better (which sounds very strange and incredible to any North American, used to the statistics being false, but in ways that concealed how bad things were, rather than that they were not that bad.)

Thu, 05/08/2014 - 01:58 | 4738790 TNTARG
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I agree with you in many issues. However I believe the only shift of Paradigm possible has to go towards EVOLUTION. There are evolutioned people, far superior than the ordinary beasts wandering around in billions. I feel we need to move in that direction, towards evolution.


Thu, 05/08/2014 - 03:21 | 4738844 Ghordius
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as usual, excellent comments. though I have one point:

"SDRs would be an attempt to consolidate a globalized government, social pyramid system, dominating everyone through enforced frauds, requiring universal attitudes of evil deliberate ignorance."

this is where the Russian and Chinese aspirations are misunderstood. yes, they have social pyramid systems and all that stuff. all powers have that

yet no Russian elite wants to be dominated by a Chinese elite, and vice versa. they are just united in not wanting to be dominated too much by a different elite

from a Russian and Chinese (elite) perspective, there is already a near- "world government"... and it's both too American and waning

Russia and China are spearheading the SDR, and are pressuring the US to accept a lesser role in the IMF

at the end, this is all preparation for a possible, foreseeable future USD retrenchment, a direct consequence to the FED's QEs

and the SDR is just an option. the other one would be gold, and the both are mixable

international politics is often about putting the adversary on the horns of a dilemma, and let him stew on that because both options are fine for you

Thu, 05/08/2014 - 04:13 | 4738878 Radical Marijuana
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Right on Ghordius! There is still a relatively large amount of ethnicity and/or racism from the history of the domination of the ruling classes, while a lot of the previously conquered countries no longer like their degree of subservience. At the present time, it is becoming more significant that "no Russian elite wants to be dominated by a Chinese elite, and vice versa. They are just united in not wanting to be dominated too much by a different elite" which "from a Russian and Chinese (elite) perspective, there is already a near- "world government"... and it's both too American and waning ..."

Thu, 05/08/2014 - 04:21 | 4738884 james.connolly
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The beauty of CLUB IMF-SDR is that if your an ELITE member you can come and 'draw' all you want or need.

The club is blind to race, ... It's a club that every elite want to join.

The problem with such multi-cultural horseshit, ... is that who would eat this shit other than USA imbeciles?

That said, never assume that the world's elite are bright, most are just like the CLINTON's and if their spawn are promised a high-leverl position in the  NWO, then they'll vote for the NWO.


My opposition to IMF-SDR all along is that nothing changes, the USA still remains the world's policeman, all the IMF-SDR is allow the US-MIL to collect a service tax upon the world for policing.

Anybody on earth that doesn't play along dies, the US-MIL will be busy as beavers,...


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