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Here Comes Crimea 2.0: Following Referendum, East Ukraine Votes To Become Part Of Russia
Yesterday we correctly predicted that while the world is distracted by this and that, the next real short-term catalyst is the east Ukraine referendum vote on Sunday, whose results would be available as soon as May 11, indicating that, almost with 100% certainty, the Ukraine region would vote to become independent.
This was promptly followed by a skillful diplomatic gambit by Putin who, knowing full well Donetsk would just say no, suggested the referendum be postponed thus giving himself cover when the western press attacked him for using Crimean tactics for the second time in two months. This was confirmed this morning when the Donetsk "separatists" indeed politely thanked Putin for his concern, but decided to proceed with this weekend's referendum anyway.
The irony is that as we also explained yesterday, the Crimea scenario is fully in play once more. Confirming precisely that was news from News of Donbass which reported moments ago that in the aftermath of the new certain May 11 referendum, a week later east Ukraine will formalize the Russia annexation process and on May 18 there will be a "second round of the referendum where you will be asked to support accession to the Donestk region of Russia."
From News of Donbas:
Gathered on the square of the self-proclaimed Donetsk Republic, administration representatives announced a "referendum" in two rounds. As the correspondent of URA-Inform.Donbass, the first round of the referendum will be held on May 11.
In the first round resident of Donetsk will be offered to vote for recognition of the Donetsk republic and then on May 18 will be held the second round of the referendum ", where you will be asked to support accession to the Donetsk region of Russia.
The decision on such a scheme of "referendum" was made today at a meeting of deputies DNR today in Donetsk.
We note that the pro-Russian activists gathered in the square outside the administrative building reactied negatively to the assessment statement by Russian President Vladimir Putin on the need to delay the "referendum".
In summary: in one master stroke, Putin "distanced" himself from the Donetsk administration so he is not seen as pulling their strings, and more importantly, in 10 days, said Donetsk republic will formally join Russia.
And that is how you successfully conduct foreign policy. There is a second way: using hash tags.
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Donetsk them to wait for a vote later....Crimea river if you cannot wait that long. Why is there a picture from Star Wars in this post?
How long does Obama have before he gets sick of Putin making him look like a fool and starts shooting?
For Michelle Obama the Hag Tag is more appropriate than the Hash Tag
""Donetsk them to wait for a vote later....Crimea river if you cannot wait that long. Why is there a picture from Star Wars in this post?""
Top Post of the Month Iridium!!!
Donetsk...Crimea river...Chewbaca/Moochelle
I can hear Putin saying: "Doña-check mate"?
Relax already.
Kissinger has already told us where this is headed.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/henry-kissinger-to-settle-the-ukraine-crisis-start-at-the-end/2014/03/05/46dad868-a496-11e3-8466-d34c451760b9_story.html
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-05-07/guest-post-false-eastwest-paradigm-hides-rise-global-currency
You do not visit Russia, Russia visits you!
Holy crap! Somebody kidnapped the two Wookkie-ettes and I haven't seen anything about it? Poor Sasha and Melia! I bet that bad ol' Uncle Vlad did it.
“OUR” girls?… how about “THE” girls.
I want them back too, but here is your forced loss of cultural identity at work..
Not like in South Africa..
CLAIM: USA Has Supervolcano Contingency Plan...
You know...next door neighbours to her "Kenyan" specimen.
Oh, I guess you are right..
They are their girls.
It'll be so nice to have the whole gang back together.
Also, who is that lady holding the sign? Is she retarded?
The Rabbit Hole
Another shameless blog by TwoShortPlanks
http://twoshortplanksunplugged.blogspot.com.au/2014/05/the-rabbit-hole.html
SDR - IMF Bailout for Ukraine and a New World Currency
While much of the world was distracted by the supposed clash over Ukraine between Russian strongman Vladimir Putin and Western politicians, the International Monetary Fund announced a bailout of the new Ukrainian regime denominated in the IMF’s increasingly influential proto-global currency known as Special Drawing Rights, or SDRs.
Analysts are warning that the developments could have profound implications for the global monetary system and the economy and especially for the United States, which is stealthily being set up for economic calamity as the U.S. dollar continues on the road to losing its prized status as the world reserve currency.
http://www.thenewamerican.com/economy/item/18207-imf-bailout-for-ukraine...
The SDR is the "last bastion" to run to for the USD. Rather than face demise from its status as the GRC and a demotion to a Regional Reserve Currency, the US has decided to go on offense by effectively taking over the SDR. Check out its composition, and all will be clear why it's Club Fed vs The World.
http://www.imf.org/external/np/fin/data/rms_sdrv.aspx
http://www.imf.org/external/np/tre/sdr/sdrbasket.htm
It's the bankrupt and aging countries of the West, pretending they are still "30 Something" Yuppies. Eg., the GBP making up 19% of the SDR? Are you fucking kidding me? How much of the western or world REAL GDP does the UK have? This is a "Good Ol' Boys Club". No wonder the BRICS and others are calling "Bullshit!"
still "30 Something" Yuppies
Viagra Fiat?
Maybe SDRs will be blue
Yep. SDR's were the goal from the beginning.
The “Hegelian Dialectic” is an old, old strategy – reinvented by Hegel and popularized by Marx .
THESIS – ANTITHESIS – SYNTHESIS
Create a problem. Engineer a reaction. Arrive at the preconceived solution to advance the agenda.
Anthony Sutton explains:
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-03-08/guest-post-ukraine-crisis-just-another-globalist-engineered-powder-keg
An oldie-but-goodie... :>D
Wow, a war-criminal giving advice political.
I guess we should just as well dig up Joachim von Ribbentrop and see what he has to say.
Donetsk...Crimea river...Chewbaca/Moochelle
'y3' you just made me spill coffee on my keyboard. I'm still laughing my ass off!!!
Thanks for getting the morning started right.
Have not Ms. Clinton and Mr. Kerry been her mentors?
that's his job, why do you think they put a half-breed community organizer in the white house...so he could be blamed when this whole thing comes unravelled...same gig at the fed with this old bag!
So thats after the Russians annex Odessa?
Interesting, look at the inverted flag images of Divided states and PlusTic below him.....
The inverted flag is the ultimate signal of distress.
I flew mine in this manner for a month after 2012 elections.
O'Bummer tried to annex Odessa but could not find it on the map
Obumma!
Google kept telling him Odessa was west of Dallas and he kept scratching his head and thinking that didn't seem right. Or maybe he wasn't scratching his head, he was strutting around on the chess board.
Here you go!
https://www.google.no/maps/place/Odessa,+TX/@31.87661,-102.3435535,12z/d...!3m1!4b1!4m2!3m1!1s0x86fbc96a39137cf9:0x1625ab3454615f46
Jinx
That's because it's in the 57th State.
If people decide borders, rather than the other way around... when does Texas go its own way? Or NorCal split from SoCal? When does Miami become a Nation-state? Etc, etc.
Or is the power of SNAP and Federal jobs too much to resist?
Vonnegut actually predicted the Balkanization of the United States in one of his best novels, Slaughterhouse-Five I believe.
Valery Perrine, I'd do her! :>D
That is the problem. Narcissist's are dangerous' and unpredictable when their illusions are shattered.
A monkey playing with the nuclear football is a scary thought.
Interesting comment, as the ONLY thing that would make Teflon Barry do anything meaningful with respect to Ukraine would be Putin exposing him for the boob he is.
uhhh how would you describe what is currently going on then?
Barry does a fine job of displaying his own boob like characteristics every time he opens his mouth. He doesn't need any help from Putin.
There are no clear targets to drone, so he wont... the counter move will be for the western puppet government to immediately ask for admission into NATO.
Probably a meaningless comment, but NATO rules say no new members with current border disputes are allowed.
Rules are made to be broken.
Very true. The current administration makes up the rules as it goes along, if it even bothers to do that much. The US has spent a lot of time and money trying to get Russia on its hook, it won't stop until it harpoons its Moby Dick.
That's the book that Obama refused to read in HS because he thought it was about STD's
Not all ignorance is bliss!
Nato in the only hope for Kiev to stay in the West. With Belarus to the North, Moldova to the Southwest, and East and South Ukraine all tilting to Russia, Kiev will be completely surrounded and have no base of support. The real question is will Nato view the expendature of a Nato base in West Ukraine as viable when they already have Romania and Poland just a few hundred miles to the West under complete Nato control? My guess is a partioned landlocked Ukraine has nothing to offer to the West. Ukraine will go the way of Yugoslavia, and be broken up and the pieces absorbed by the neighboring states.
As soon as he thinks that EU countries are losing confidence in NATO and might be willing to support its replacement with an EU Army.
It is under consideration right now in Brussels. The main opposition to the idea is the UK. Lesser opposition comes from countries that don't see the point of having both an national military AND an EU military.
All they need is an 'accidental' Russian incursion into the Baltics or Poland and it will be fait accompli. They are surely strategizing how to provoke Russia into doing that as we speak.
That's actually a tricky question, really a two parter. Putin will be making Obama look like a fool as long as they are both involved in foreign policy, much the same way that a cardsharp will clean out the rube as long as they are both at the poker table. As for the shooting part? Stupid people are unfortunately less predictable than the smart ones; it's the only advantage they frequently have.
I don't know about done't ask don't tell but DonBass sounds badass. Did I get that right? Don Bass me bro!
It is a proven fact that no ordniary, normal person wants war.
Since that is 99.999% of the world's population, the problem becomes immediately clear.
A single point of focussed power will need a single point of response to be impacted. How do you focus 7-9 billion people's attention at 33 people? Or MJ-12? Or the 9?
Or the One? Neo?
These are perhaps the bigger questions that form the backdrop of this ridiculous sounding, childish game play with real weapons.
ori
Its pretty obvious its the USA and a few of its vassal nations (UK) thats behind the Ukraine coup government "strategy".
All you really need to do is think through plausible strategies after you have come to power like the coup boyz in Kiev. What is your short term goal? What is your long term goal? It should be an obvious answer that you want to keep the country intact. Hence its completely illogical to put the iron boot on a quarter of the populations who are a majority in the richest industrial wise parts of the country. Unless the plot isnt really to erradicate these people but to enrage Russia. Then it all makes sense.
USA and its NATO tool is by far the most dangerous group of terrorists in the world today, bar none. And I am ashamed that a Norwegian will be taking over the helm at NATO, Jens Stoltenberg. I really dont think he actually understands the depths of depravity running through those corridors. And if he does he is one evil and stupid MOFO who deserves to be shamed as a warcriminal along with Kjell Magne Bondevik.
"Its pretty obvious its the USA and a few of its vassal nations (UK) thats behind the Ukraine coup government "strategy" -TheBlackBishop
It's pretty obvious you don't know what you are talking about.
EVERYONE has their fingers in Ukraine right now - each for their own reasons.
For instance - like with Kosovo relative to the Treaty of Lisbon - this is being used in Brussels as a pretext to show why NATO is inadquate and should be replaced by an EU Army - a proposition supported by France, Germany, Italy, and Spain.
The US has no direct benefit. Ukraine could slide into the Black Sea and it wouldn't affect the US directly. However by doing what benefits Europeans here the US can delay that EU Army. They can also throw a fig leaf to OPEC to keep the PetroDollar going, since they broke their word and restarted domestic new production for the first time since the '74 Oil Shock.
Russia, never really digested the idea that Ukraine is a separate country who must resolve their own problems. Despite easily using the name 'Union' or 'Republic' or 'Commonwealth' neither Russians in general nor the Kremlin specifically pay the slightest attention to the autonomy those terms imply. If you are in an organization with Russia, Russia is in charge. Period. Additionally, the military avenues of attack to Russia are in Ukraine. And Russia has to have Crimea to have a year-round viable Navy.
Those who are most anxious to vindicate Russia and declare everyone else corrupt, and their populations absorbed by propaganda, are themselves ALSO guilty. The last guy to tell me that I only knew what my TV told me, then proceeded to quote the 'Ukraine is an Imaginary Country' story that Russian Channel 1 had on two nights ago.
I don't even have TV service. I don't trust the media enough to pay them any attention. You just have to survey the range of propaganda and then ask, "Who is it good for?"
Then you can reach your own conclusions.
What a fucking tool...
"The US has no direct benefit. Ukraine could slide into the Black Sea and it wouldn't affect the US directly. However by doing what benefits Europeans here the US can delay that EU Army. They can also throw a fig leaf to OPEC to keep the PetroDollar going, since they broke their word and restarted domestic new production for the first time since the '74 Oil Shock."
Bullshit. The USA's main benefit by setting Ukraine against Russia is by creating a political and economic divide between the EU and Russia. Reach your own conclusions indeed. Balloonheaded moron.
Russia seems to be doing that very well on its own with its pipeline games.
But ignore all that!
And within the memory of living residents Poland, and the Baltics have been invaded and occupied by Russians.
But ignore all that!
Surely everyone is as pristine as the lily white snow - except the big bad USA who eat children for breakfast!
I am the baloonheaded moron?
Your ideas are a children's cartoon.
I don't think you're a balloonheaded moron. I think you're on the .gov payroll.
More like a sockpuppet on the .gov payroll. Took me a while to put it together, but he finally tipped his hand.
Hey ORI, this is somewhat off-topic but I thought you might be intrigued because you've previously expressed an interest in astrology. Back in 2011, a Russian astrologer predicted that WWIII would kick off shortly after the Sochi Olympics. The same astrologer predicted that Obama would be assassinated, although the timeframe has already passed.
I know that most people scoff at astrology, but it's pretty fascinating how accurate it can be if done properly.
On the Star Wars angle. Even with thier proven lack of diplomatic skills, surely they can't think Jabba The Hut plans on willingly returning young girls???
Mournful wookie is mournful.
IR
+100
Next president of the whole planet
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Clinton or Putin
LENIN!
Soon, we will have Brooklyn People's Republic up for a referendum.
A lot of Russians in Sunny Isles Florida......Can't wait for the referendum!
Someone wants to take "God's waiting room"? Ha, they can have it. The medical costs alone will sink them. We'll have to let them know it also contains whiny republican cubans, haitian criminals and the odd gun toting cracker.
Cracker? You mean Saltine-American?
My brain explodes every time I hear voting for freedom.
Incidently, that area of Brooklyn is called "Little Odessa."
Nuland : This is not going according to plan...man
Nuland's with Hillary. All part of the witches brigade.
Yellen, Hillary, and FU Nuland: "Hubble, bubble, toil and trouble..."
The lovely Asst Sec of State Victoria (F.U.) Nuland (nee: Nudleman) Kagan must be a little discouraged & disappointed with the relatively low body count!
I guess US$5b just doesn't fill as many body bags as it used 'ta!
hahaha awesome, can't upvote you enough for this
"Fillet of a fenny snake,
in the cauldron, boil and bake!"
500 bullets could send a message to the top psychopaths. 500 bullets... Well placed, of course.
The Geneva Convention says it has to be 22LR.....and nobody has that.
I have some, and if you promise to use it wisely...I am willing to share.
Yes,
They'll have to melt-down about 30 22LRs to make the .50BMG to do the job while complying with Geneva.
Every shot lovingly fired by expert craftsmen.
Putin is the Master of the Universe! Spasiba comrade!
"Comrade" is an English word.
"Tovarish" is the Russian equivalent.
Lemme see, become the west's bitch debt slaves for the next 5 generations or go with Putin? At least with Putin you might get a chance to hold a rifle for mother russia.
Forward Soviet?
. "get a chance to hold a rifle for mother russia" - that you take off of the dead guy who went before. In Russian army, it only matters that the rifle has enough cartridges in it to allow for x succession of "soldiers" firing it.
Soviet is defunct
get over it
I don't see "Soviet" in my comment. Fuck you.
This is going to be on par with an election in Africa in terms of corruption. Both Russia and the West have so many agitators and instigators in the region right now. I've been reading about that since the whole debacle started and I'm 100% sure that it's even worse now. Luckily for the people of Donetsk, unlike those of Crimea, Russian troops are not officially on the ground in the 10s of thousands. Allowing them to vote whichever way they want.
And who counts the votes? Oh, right.
."This is going to be on par with an election in Africa in terms of corruption".
You mean America right? Freudian slip I surmise.
Why bother? The WEST has no interest in DEMOCRACY!
We use to be a Republic......back when the states held the power.
The states still do hold the power. They just choose not to use it.
Well, sometimes they do nullify federal laws or some have legalized marijuana, so they know how to use it in the right way.
You think that a republic would make your opinions more important? Don't make me laugh.
Ron Paul abandoned all of us in the time of need. No reason to pretend like he pushed through. I don't know what deal he made with the republicans at the convention but he didn't stand up for anything. Wouldn't surprise me if it was all a sham, I just wish I could get all of my contributed money back. Fell for it hook line and sinker.
"The West doesn't care about its people." Oh ok, The BRICS countries do? lol. You guys are retarded.
We prefer 'intellectually challenged,' ...if you please.
With any luck our 'fearless leaders' might start caring less ...'cause we can't take much more of it!
Ron Paul has been telling the truth for 40 years. But now he's an asshole because when people start to listen to him he's an old man who wants to retire?
We have plenty of interest on debt!
The west has plenty of interest in a democracy since that is just another form of tyranny. What the west has no interest in is a republic.
exactly
The 'Western' Ukranians might want to be out of Eastern Ukraine by Monday ... if they don't want to cash in their life insurance policies!
What happens if all the voting machines fall out of the boat and are lost in the river (along with my gold)?
Isn't it Stalin who said that everyone gets to vote but I get to count them.
About some missing ballot boxes, I know that LBJ said: "You can't be a statesman if you don't get re-elected."
#4FuckSake_TheWookieEatsGirlsNow?
Has the check for the gaz cleared yet?
You mean the Czech? That'll be in 2016.
But, but, what is "the west" going to say ?
Obama will take a selfie of his cock to create a diversion with his fag brigade so people won't notice what a failure he is.
Vlad will slowkrieg his way to victory
Waltzing a dirge.
Sitzkrieg is in play
da Got Mit Uns
World banksters: Putin, become our slave and do what we say or we will crush you!
Putin firing some ICBMs just answered.
A small change on the picture and that's better now !
http://uppix.net/KeDX4k.jpg
This is ground breaking journalism! Haha Hahahaha Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha...
I think the important insight here was that the votes were able to be counted, in the midst of all this war and chaos, even before anyone had actually voted.
http://i62.tinypic.com/200brro.jpg
I spoke with Jim Willie last night about the Russian pull back this is what he said "clowns misinterpret
Putin pulled back so Ukraine can sink more effectively under US/NATO watchful eye and rapacious hand"
also asked him if we will be able to get rid of the FED and Central Bankers - "
yes, but in replacement will be Chinese task masters they will be responsible for re-industrialization of the USA not sure how the 50 states will stay together though in debt default, the nation will be carved up" He has one of the best newsletters out there - www.goldenjackass.comlol Jim Willie. I swear that guy does huge lines of coke before doing interviews with Greg Hunter. He always says the most retarded shit imaginable. I can't help but think he's running some kind of scam. He says buy gold, but then he said gold miners will go to zero..... because gold is worthless. What? Idiot.
Diagnosis: Spatial Dissociation
Jim Willie > Spungo
Even if its only by entertainment value.
http://www.silverdoctors.com/jim-willie-bombshell-over-40000-tons-of-gol...
Entertaining and accurate -
London GOLD VAULTS EMPTY: Price Spike Ahead http://beforeitsnews.com/financial-markets/2014/05/london-gold-vaults-em...Personaly I love Jim Willie and his rants. He has been pretty spot on IMO but nobody can predict the timing of events.
Also a big fan of Gerald Celente, but after they ripped off his gold account he seems to explode in anger a bit too soon and a bit too often. I understand his anger but he should try to channel it more. Snarky satirical comments is much better than shouting.
He has never said gold is worthless - provide the clip. He is brilliant and most of his forecasts have been dead on. http://www.goldenjackass.com/forecast.html
Did the cheque for the gas bill clear?
I wonder if the voting results will go like the Crimea vote did.
"the turnout of Crimean voters was only 30 percent. And of these, only half voted for the referendum–meaning only 15 percent of Crimean citizens voted for annexation."
After Odessa? I would think 99,9% would vote to leave Ukraine yesterday if they could. That was the most disgusting shit I've seen in years. It's been thoroughly documented now how the Kiev-boyz and their Right Sector assholes set up the entire confrontation and used it as cover to slaughter 40+ people. Did you see the picture of the strangled pregnant woman? Fucking barbarians!
Where do you get your news from. Better turn off main stream media.
95.7% of Crimeans Give The Finger To The White House Tyranthttp://www.paulcraigroberts.org/2014/03/16/95-7-crimeans-give-finger-whi...
Close ...but nice try! A whopping 78% of voting eligible Crimeans voted with an incredible 93% approval rate.
The vote was approved by 43 U.N. members ... including the Excited States of America!
The Wookie should have used lipstick to write it on her ass - you could write the entire contents of the Congressional Library on that...
Wow, they didn't want to join IMF aka 'Wall Cheat' instead?
Must be getting real embarrassing for "heavily armed" American "patriots" now with unarmed east Ukrainians accomplishing so much. In 4 short months Crimea seceded now other parts of east Ukraine are seceding.
Yet after decades of wishing hoping and dreaming not even big tough Texas has seceded, and the only "patriot" victory in 50 damn years is rescuing a few cows.
If the feds massacred 1,000 "militia" members at the Bundy ranch - 90% of the country would applaud the assault on "right wing" "terrorists" and the militarization of federal agencies that would seem to have little reason to have the SF type gear they have.
The fucking $ that has gone to weapons {etc.} manufacturers in the past 12 years is, I think fwiw, a bigger story and scandal than anything to do with the banks and wall street fuckery.
Seems like a political solution is off the table. We may very well get another Bush or Clinton in office to act as the new puppet for the powers behind the throne.
For some sort of popular protest or uprising, the American people would need some sort of "catalyzing event".
As proposed recently, I think this could only be appreciating that 9/11 was not what, to say the least, the MSM and gov have claimed. And sure - there may be no way to get people to appreciate that, but I don't see an alternative. Rednecks with rifles may earn the empathy of some, but not the vast majority - not the coasts or the northeast...
Texas?
Texas is a Mexican colony. The old Texas has been dead 20 years. They won't do shit unless and until the Latino population decides they want their own independent state, and I wish them good luck when they do.
So if Putin encouraged this abominable exercise in democracy, he would be a tyrant who wants to revive the Soviet Union...
But if he discouraged it, it's only to cover up the fact he is supporting democracy?
Meanwhile, the US/NATO back a coup that installs a banker by virtue of bona fide nazi street thugs, and Obama refers to this as "legitimately elected" after justifying the arming of Al Qaeda in Syria because Assad is "attacking his own people" all while backing the unelected Kiev regime that is currently... attacking its own people...
And, unless you want to be deemed a conspiracy theorist or potential ter'rist, you better think that the above narrative, ostentatiously slathered all over the "journalism" in the NY Times, and on CNN, and propaganda coming from the WhiteHouse - the Corporate, Militarist, Ziocon Matrix that has the stranglehold on truth, justice, and moral consistency??
Huh??