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Here Comes Crimea 2.0: Following Referendum, East Ukraine Votes To Become Part Of Russia

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Yesterday we correctly predicted that while the world is distracted by this and that, the next real short-term catalyst is the east Ukraine referendum vote on Sunday, whose results would be available as soon as May 11, indicating that, almost with 100% certainty, the Ukraine region would vote to become independent.

This was promptly followed by a skillful diplomatic gambit by Putin who, knowing full well Donetsk would just say no, suggested the referendum be postponed thus giving himself cover when the western press attacked him for using Crimean tactics for the second time in two months. This was confirmed this morning when the Donetsk "separatists" indeed politely thanked Putin for his concern, but decided to proceed with this weekend's referendum anyway.

The irony is that as we also explained yesterday, the Crimea scenario is fully in play once more. Confirming precisely that was news from News of Donbass which reported moments ago that in the aftermath of the new certain May 11 referendum, a week later east Ukraine will formalize the Russia annexation process and on May 18 there will be a "second round of the referendum where you will be asked to support accession to the Donestk region of Russia."

From News of Donbas:

Gathered on the square of the self-proclaimed Donetsk Republic, administration representatives announced a "referendum" in two rounds. As the correspondent of URA-Inform.Donbass, the first round of the referendum will be held on May 11.

 

In the first round resident of Donetsk will be offered to vote for recognition of the Donetsk republic and then on May 18 will be held the second round of the referendum ", where you will be asked to support accession to the Donetsk region of Russia.

 

The decision on such a scheme of "referendum" was made today at a meeting of deputies DNR today in Donetsk.

 

We note that the pro-Russian activists gathered in the square outside the administrative building reactied negatively to the assessment statement by Russian President Vladimir Putin on the need to delay the "referendum".

In summary: in one master stroke, Putin "distanced" himself from the Donetsk administration so he is not seen as pulling their strings, and more importantly, in 10 days, said Donetsk republic will formally join Russia.

And that is how you successfully conduct foreign policy. There is a second way: using hash tags.

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Thu, 05/08/2014 - 09:07 | 4739335 IridiumRebel
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Donetsk them to wait for a vote later....Crimea river if you cannot wait that long. Why is there a picture from Star Wars in this post?

Thu, 05/08/2014 - 09:14 | 4739363 Haus-Targaryen
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How long does Obama have before he gets sick of Putin making him look like a fool and starts shooting?

Thu, 05/08/2014 - 09:17 | 4739370 Divided States ...
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For Michelle Obama the Hag Tag is more appropriate than the Hash Tag

Thu, 05/08/2014 - 09:25 | 4739404 y3maxx
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""Donetsk them to wait for a vote later....Crimea river if you cannot wait that long. Why is there a picture from Star Wars in this post?""

Top Post of the Month Iridium!!!

Donetsk...Crimea river...Chewbaca/Moochelle

Thu, 05/08/2014 - 09:33 | 4739431 Doña K
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I can hear Putin saying: "Doña-check mate"?

Thu, 05/08/2014 - 09:55 | 4739506 Latina Lover
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You do not visit Russia, Russia visits you!

Thu, 05/08/2014 - 09:58 | 4739518 SumTing Wong
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Holy crap! Somebody kidnapped the two Wookkie-ettes and I haven't seen anything about it? Poor Sasha and Melia! I bet that bad ol' Uncle Vlad did it. 

Thu, 05/08/2014 - 10:06 | 4739546 Manthong
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“OUR” girls?… how about  “THE” girls.

I want them back too, but here is your forced loss of cultural identity at work..

Not like in South Africa..

CLAIM: USA Has Supervolcano Contingency Plan... 

Thu, 05/08/2014 - 10:13 | 4739581 The Black Bishop
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You know...next door neighbours to her "Kenyan" specimen.

Thu, 05/08/2014 - 10:17 | 4739604 Manthong
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Oh, I guess you are right..

They are their girls.

Thu, 05/08/2014 - 12:30 | 4740094 StacksOnStacks
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It'll be so nice to have the whole gang back together.

 

Also, who is that lady holding the sign?  Is she retarded?

Thu, 05/08/2014 - 21:30 | 4742003 TwoShortPlanks
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The Rabbit Hole

Another shameless blog by TwoShortPlanks

http://twoshortplanksunplugged.blogspot.com.au/2014/05/the-rabbit-hole.html

Thu, 05/08/2014 - 10:18 | 4739614 Ying-Yang
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SDR - IMF Bailout for Ukraine and a New World Currency

While much of the world was distracted by the supposed clash over Ukraine between Russian strongman Vladimir Putin and Western politicians, the International Monetary Fund announced a bailout of the new Ukrainian regime denominated in the IMF’s increasingly influential proto-global currency known as Special Drawing Rights, or SDRs.

Analysts are warning that the developments could have profound implications for the global monetary system and the economy and especially for the United States, which is stealthily being set up for economic calamity as the U.S. dollar continues on the road to losing its prized status as the world reserve currency.

http://www.thenewamerican.com/economy/item/18207-imf-bailout-for-ukraine...

 

Thu, 05/08/2014 - 10:55 | 4739736 Kirk2NCC1701
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The SDR is the "last bastion" to run to for the USD.  Rather than face demise from its status as the GRC and a demotion to a Regional Reserve Currency, the US has decided to go on offense by effectively taking over the SDR.  Check out its composition, and all will be clear why it's Club Fed vs The World.

http://www.imf.org/external/np/fin/data/rms_sdrv.aspx

http://www.imf.org/external/np/tre/sdr/sdrbasket.htm

It's the bankrupt and aging countries of the West, pretending they are still "30 Something" Yuppies.  Eg., the GBP making up 19% of the SDR?  Are you fucking kidding me?  How much of the western or world REAL GDP does the UK have?  This is a "Good Ol' Boys Club".  No wonder the BRICS and others are calling "Bullshit!"

Thu, 05/08/2014 - 11:27 | 4739902 Ying-Yang
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still "30 Something" Yuppies

Viagra Fiat?

Maybe SDRs will be blue

Thu, 05/08/2014 - 11:19 | 4739869 New Ordnance
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Yep. SDR's were the goal from the beginning.

 

The “Hegelian Dialectic” is an old, old strategy – reinvented by Hegel and popularized by Marx .

THESIS – ANTITHESIS – SYNTHESIS

Create a problem. Engineer a reaction. Arrive at the preconceived solution to advance the agenda.

 

Anthony Sutton explains:

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-03-08/guest-post-ukraine-crisis-just-another-globalist-engineered-powder-keg

Thu, 05/08/2014 - 19:44 | 4741639 StychoKiller
Thu, 05/08/2014 - 11:29 | 4739909 kchrisc
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Wow, a war-criminal giving advice political.

I guess we should just as well dig up Joachim von Ribbentrop and see what he has to say.

Thu, 05/08/2014 - 10:10 | 4739563 Son of Captain Nemo
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Donetsk...Crimea river...Chewbaca/Moochelle

'y3' you just made me spill coffee on my keyboard.  I'm still laughing my ass off!!!

Thanks for getting the morning started right.

Thu, 05/08/2014 - 09:33 | 4739429 ThisIsBob
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Have not Ms. Clinton and Mr. Kerry been her mentors?

Thu, 05/08/2014 - 09:16 | 4739371 PlusTic
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that's his job, why do you think they put a half-breed community organizer in the white house...so he could be blamed when this whole thing comes unravelled...same gig at the fed with this old bag!

Thu, 05/08/2014 - 09:17 | 4739376 Haus-Targaryen
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So thats after the Russians annex Odessa? 

Thu, 05/08/2014 - 09:21 | 4739388 Oh regional Indian
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Interesting, look at the inverted flag images of Divided states and PlusTic below him.....

Thu, 05/08/2014 - 09:31 | 4739427 forwardho
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The inverted flag is the ultimate signal of distress.

I flew mine in this manner for a month after 2012 elections.

Thu, 05/08/2014 - 09:41 | 4739459 Oracle of Kypseli
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O'Bummer tried to annex Odessa but could not find it on the map

 

Thu, 05/08/2014 - 09:49 | 4739486 _ConanTheLibert...
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Obumma!

Thu, 05/08/2014 - 10:16 | 4739589 DeadFred
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Google kept telling him Odessa was west of Dallas and he kept scratching his head and thinking that didn't seem right. Or maybe he wasn't scratching his head, he was strutting around on the chess board.

Thu, 05/08/2014 - 10:16 | 4739598 The Black Bishop
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Here you go!

 

https://www.google.no/maps/place/Odessa,+TX/@31.87661,-102.3435535,12z/d...!3m1!4b1!4m2!3m1!1s0x86fbc96a39137cf9:0x1625ab3454615f46

Thu, 05/08/2014 - 10:17 | 4739608 DeadFred
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Jinx

Thu, 05/08/2014 - 13:06 | 4740244 SDShack
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That's because it's in the 57th State.

Thu, 05/08/2014 - 10:45 | 4739708 Kirk2NCC1701
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If people decide borders, rather than the other way around... when does Texas go its own way? Or NorCal split from SoCal?  When does Miami become a Nation-state?  Etc, etc.

Or is the power of SNAP and Federal jobs too much to resist?

Thu, 05/08/2014 - 11:49 | 4739980 H. Perowne
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Vonnegut actually predicted the Balkanization of the United States in one of his best novels, Slaughterhouse-Five I believe.

Thu, 05/08/2014 - 19:49 | 4741652 StychoKiller
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Valery Perrine, I'd do her! :>D

Thu, 05/08/2014 - 09:19 | 4739377 Winston Churchill
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That is the problem. Narcissist's are dangerous' and unpredictable when their illusions are shattered.
A monkey playing with the nuclear football is a scary thought.

Thu, 05/08/2014 - 09:19 | 4739385 Eyeroller
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Interesting comment, as the ONLY thing that would make Teflon Barry do anything meaningful with respect to Ukraine would be Putin exposing him for the boob he is.

Thu, 05/08/2014 - 09:30 | 4739422 gatorengineer
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uhhh how would you describe what is currently going on then?

Thu, 05/08/2014 - 09:34 | 4739436 Dr. Engali
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Barry does a fine job of displaying his own boob like characteristics every time he opens his mouth. He doesn't need any help from Putin.

Thu, 05/08/2014 - 09:29 | 4739415 gatorengineer
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There are no clear targets to drone, so he wont...  the counter move will be for the western puppet government to immediately ask for admission into NATO.  

Thu, 05/08/2014 - 09:39 | 4739455 Winston Churchill
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Probably a meaningless comment, but NATO rules say no new members with current border disputes are allowed.
Rules are made to be broken.

Thu, 05/08/2014 - 10:21 | 4739636 813kml
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Very true.  The current administration makes up the rules as it goes along, if it even bothers to do that much.  The US has spent a lot of time and money trying to get Russia on its hook, it won't stop until it harpoons its Moby Dick.

Thu, 05/08/2014 - 15:14 | 4740781 Oracle of Kypseli
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That's the book that Obama refused to read in HS because he thought it was about STD's

Thu, 05/08/2014 - 20:09 | 4741715 StychoKiller
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Not all ignorance is bliss!

Thu, 05/08/2014 - 13:16 | 4740272 SDShack
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Nato in the only hope for Kiev to stay in the West. With Belarus to the North, Moldova to the Southwest, and East and South Ukraine all tilting to Russia, Kiev will be completely surrounded and have no base of support. The real question is will Nato view the expendature of a Nato base in West Ukraine as viable when they already have Romania and Poland just a few hundred miles to the West under complete Nato control? My guess is a partioned landlocked Ukraine has nothing to offer to the West. Ukraine will go the way of Yugoslavia, and be broken up and the pieces absorbed by the neighboring states.

Thu, 05/08/2014 - 10:47 | 4739726 gcjohns1971
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As soon as he thinks that EU countries are losing confidence in NATO and might be willing to support its replacement with an EU Army.

It is under consideration right now in Brussels.  The main opposition to the idea is the UK.   Lesser opposition comes from countries that don't see the point of having both an national military AND an EU military.

All they need is an 'accidental' Russian incursion into the Baltics or Poland and it will be fait accompli.   They are surely strategizing how to provoke Russia into doing that as we speak.

Thu, 05/08/2014 - 11:08 | 4739821 H. Perowne
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That's actually a tricky question, really a two parter. Putin will be making Obama look like a fool as long as they are both involved in foreign policy, much the same way that a cardsharp will clean out the rube as long as they are both at the poker table. As for the shooting part? Stupid people are unfortunately less predictable than the smart ones; it's the only advantage they frequently have.

Thu, 05/08/2014 - 09:18 | 4739380 Oh regional Indian
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I don't know about done't ask don't tell but DonBass sounds badass. Did I get that right? Don Bass me bro!

It is a proven fact that no ordniary, normal person wants war.

Since that is 99.999% of the world's population, the problem becomes immediately clear.

A single point of focussed power will need a single point of response to be impacted. How do you focus 7-9 billion people's attention at 33 people? Or MJ-12? Or the 9?

Or the One? Neo?

These are perhaps the bigger questions that form the backdrop of this ridiculous sounding, childish game play with real weapons.

ori

Thu, 05/08/2014 - 10:23 | 4739642 The Black Bishop
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Its pretty obvious its the USA and a few of its vassal nations (UK) thats behind the Ukraine coup government "strategy".

 

All you really need to do is think through plausible strategies after you have come to power like the coup boyz in Kiev. What is your short term goal? What is your long term goal? It should be an obvious answer that you want to keep the country intact. Hence its completely illogical to put the iron boot on a quarter of the populations who are a majority in the richest industrial wise parts of the country. Unless the plot isnt really to erradicate these people but to enrage Russia. Then it all makes sense.

 

USA and its NATO tool is by far the most dangerous group of terrorists in the world today, bar none. And I am ashamed that a Norwegian will be taking over the helm at NATO, Jens Stoltenberg. I really dont think he actually understands the depths of depravity running through those corridors. And if he does he is one evil and stupid MOFO who deserves to be shamed as a warcriminal along with Kjell Magne Bondevik.

Thu, 05/08/2014 - 10:42 | 4739703 gcjohns1971
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"Its pretty obvious its the USA and a few of its vassal nations (UK) thats behind the Ukraine coup government "strategy"  -TheBlackBishop

 

It's pretty obvious you don't know what you are talking about.

EVERYONE has their fingers in Ukraine right now - each for their own reasons.

For instance - like with Kosovo relative to the Treaty of Lisbon - this is being used in Brussels as a pretext to show why NATO is inadquate and should be replaced by an EU Army - a proposition supported by France, Germany, Italy, and Spain.

The US has no direct benefit.  Ukraine could slide into the Black Sea and it wouldn't affect the US directly.   However by doing what benefits Europeans here the US can delay that EU Army.   They can also throw a fig leaf to OPEC to keep the PetroDollar going, since they broke their word and restarted domestic new production for the first time since the '74 Oil Shock.

Russia, never really digested the idea that Ukraine is a separate country who must resolve their own problems.   Despite easily using the name 'Union' or 'Republic' or 'Commonwealth' neither Russians in general nor the Kremlin specifically pay the slightest attention to the autonomy those terms imply.  If you are in an organization with Russia, Russia is in charge.  Period.  Additionally, the military avenues of attack to Russia are in Ukraine.  And Russia has to have Crimea to have a year-round viable Navy.

Those who are most anxious to vindicate Russia and declare everyone else corrupt, and their populations absorbed by propaganda, are themselves ALSO guilty.  The last guy to tell me that I only knew what my TV told me, then proceeded to quote the 'Ukraine is an Imaginary Country' story that Russian Channel 1 had on two nights ago.

I don't even have TV service.  I don't trust the media enough to pay them any attention.   You just have to survey the range of propaganda and then ask, "Who is it good for?"

Then you can reach your own conclusions.

Thu, 05/08/2014 - 10:46 | 4739721 The Black Bishop
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What a fucking tool...

 

"The US has no direct benefit.  Ukraine could slide into the Black Sea and it wouldn't affect the US directly.   However by doing what benefits Europeans here the US can delay that EU Army.   They can also throw a fig leaf to OPEC to keep the PetroDollar going, since they broke their word and restarted domestic new production for the first time since the '74 Oil Shock."

 

Bullshit. The USA's main benefit by setting Ukraine against Russia is by creating a political and economic divide between the EU and Russia. Reach your own conclusions indeed. Balloonheaded moron.

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