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Putin Warns "Other Countries Must Respect Russia"

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Hours ahead of Donetsk' planned referendum this weekend, Russia's President Vladimir Putin - speaking from a recently reclaimed Sevastopol (and denounced for being their by Ukraine's acting government) - has made anything but the market's much-needed diplomatic comments...

  • *PUTIN SAYS OTHER COUNTRIES MUST RESPECT RUSSIA: INTERFAX
  • *PUTIN SAYS OTHERS MUST RESPECT RIGHT TO HISTORICAL JUSTICE: IFX
  • *PUTIN SAYS NATIONS MUST RESPECT SELF-DETERMINATION RIGHT: IFX

In other words, while he publicly asked for the referendum to be postponed; the people are demanding it and he will live by their will... and if they choose independence, he will enforce it. On a day when 20 have already died in clashes, is it any wonder event risk concerns this weekend are surging.

 

Ukraine is not happy about his visit...

Statement of the MFA of Ukraine on unauthorised visit by the Russian President Vladimir Putin to the Autonomous Republic of Crimea and Sevastopol

Ministry of Foreign Affairs of Ukraine expresses the strongest protest against today’s unauthorised visit by President of the Russian Federation Vladimir Putin to the Autonomous Republic of Crimea and Sevastopol, temporally occupied by Russia.

Ukraine considers this step to be a blatant disrespect by the Russian side for the legislation of Ukraine, international law; gross violation of Ukraine’s sovereignty, the United Nations Charter, the United Nations General Assembly Resolution "On Territorial Integrity of Ukraine ", as well as the Treaty of Friendship, Cooperation and Partnership between Ukraine and the Russian Federation of 1997.

This provocation makes yet another clear evidence that Russia has been consciously escalating tensions in Ukrainian-Russian relations and unwilling to bring bilateral disputes to diplomatic solution.

We demand the Russian side to return to the civilized way of international relations, listen to the decisive voice of international community, as well as repeal all the illegal acts on occupation and annexation of the part of Ukraine’s territory.

 

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Fri, 05/09/2014 - 11:08 | 4743399 jubber
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Gold and Silver LOD

Fri, 05/09/2014 - 11:12 | 4743421 Hippocratic Oaf
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Respect is earned, not forced.

dick

Fri, 05/09/2014 - 11:14 | 4743428 Grande Tetons
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I respect no politician. 

Dicks! 

Fri, 05/09/2014 - 11:15 | 4743433 OC Sure
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What tyranny wants tyranny takes.

Fri, 05/09/2014 - 11:19 | 4743447 Latina Lover
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Yes, that is why the USSA is always invading other countries, under the guise of responsibility to protect, or some other pretext.

Fri, 05/09/2014 - 11:22 | 4743469 Latina Lover
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Quoting the article re Putins visit:

Ukraine considers this step to be a blatant disrespect by the Russian side for the legislation of Ukraine, international law; gross violation of Ukraine’s sovereignty, the United Nations Charter, the United Nations General Assembly Resolution "On Territorial Integrity of Ukraine ", as well as the Treaty of Friendship, Cooperation and Partnership between Ukraine and the Russian Federation of 1997.

 

I guess overthrowing the elected president of the Ukraine and replacing him with an illegal CIA coupmeisters doesn't count, LOL

Fri, 05/09/2014 - 11:29 | 4743490 BaBaBouy
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SURE...

AND 1, 2, 3, Let's ALL Keep Selling THE GOLD Right Now...

...Fucking Market Manip Puke...

Fri, 05/09/2014 - 11:28 | 4743494 Headbanger
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The former and current Ukraine governments go what they deserved from Putin by being the corrupt sluts of the West and thinking they has noting to worry about with NATO backing them.

Fri, 05/09/2014 - 12:05 | 4743667 Handful of Dust
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It's all about Respect agrees Ali G:

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iBKk1McBLxM

Fri, 05/09/2014 - 11:33 | 4743514 Manthong
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"Respect is earned, not forced."

Force is often needed to earn respect from idiots.

Fri, 05/09/2014 - 11:41 | 4743563 Spastica Rex
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Are you a cop?

Fri, 05/09/2014 - 12:37 | 4743769 exi1ed0ne
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Just turn off the fucking gas.  I give it hours before everyone in the west starts playing nice or kicking off WWIII.  Trouble is if they kick off WWIII, the west has to take Russia in one go which is why it won't happen.

Fri, 05/09/2014 - 15:55 | 4744626 Youri Carma
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Noooo, you have to worry about secondary smoke ;) http://youtu.be/QouJEDVNt6s?t=3m52s

Fri, 05/09/2014 - 11:20 | 4743457 Vampyroteuthis ...
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I am sure that he was laughing as he flew over the other soon-to-be new Russian provinces that were once Ukraine. Nato/EU you blew this one big time.

Fri, 05/09/2014 - 23:38 | 4745581 StychoKiller
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Well, Ukraine jackwagons are gonna have to "learn" to respect the hands that control their gaz/oil; ain't but one way to teach that lesson...

Fri, 05/09/2014 - 11:15 | 4743431 FieldingMellish
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Yep. Goldman's death plunge is awaiting. One final capitulation selloff in the next 6-10 weeks to an ultimate bear market low of $1080 or thereabouts. Who will be brave enough to buy at that point?

Fri, 05/09/2014 - 11:16 | 4743438 rubearish10
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Yes, it is clearly reflected in the gold price. ROTFLMFAO!!!!

Fri, 05/09/2014 - 11:12 | 4743408 sablya
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It is pretty clear that Moscow is reponsible for the Odessa deaths.  Not only did Putin's thugs fire on a unarmed crowd of peaceful marchers, killing four people, reports from some survivors of the building fire bring to light some strange irregularities.  Evidently nerve gas was used to paralyze people who were then burned to death.  In addition, people were prevented from leaving the most dangerous areas.  There is no good explanation for the deaths of so many unfortunate people in such a minor fire.  There were people sitting on the roof, laughing, while other people below were unable to escape the fire?  It is not reasonable for this to occur without some external intervention.  The most gruesome thought is that the pregnant woman put on such hideous display was the work of one of Putin's brutal, ruthless thugs.

That episode is a fail for Putin - he had hoped to provoke an outcry against Kiev.  The street killings took away the emotional impact, and there is a nagging sense of irregularity in the building fire that even someone who hasn't investigated the reports of survivors has to deal with.  

Who can respect such a country?  

Fri, 05/09/2014 - 11:13 | 4743427 McMolotov
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Nice try. You get a C for effort.

Fri, 05/09/2014 - 11:20 | 4743462 Winston Churchill
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How is the weather in Kiev today ?

Fri, 05/09/2014 - 11:52 | 4743615 pods
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Kiev or MClean?

pods

Fri, 05/09/2014 - 11:30 | 4743477 Dr. Engali
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It's too bad for you that there is plenty of documentation that proves otherwise. But never let the facts get in the way of a good lie, right sock puppet? It's funny how these long term accounts with no history of posting suddenly show up carrying .gov's water.

Fri, 05/09/2014 - 11:41 | 4743558 Bay of Pigs
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Trolls and sock puppets always seem to show up when PM's are getting killed too.

A nice coordinated effort isn't it?

Fri, 05/09/2014 - 11:45 | 4743573 sablya
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True, man.  Getting downvoted is a pleasure from such a bunch of stupids.

Fri, 05/09/2014 - 11:50 | 4743596 Bay of Pigs
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So it was sarc?

Fri, 05/09/2014 - 12:02 | 4743650 sablya
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vot urodi 

Fri, 05/09/2014 - 12:12 | 4743631 Dr. Engali
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It looks like you told us. Stupids? Did you just learn that new word on the playground from the big kids?

Fri, 05/09/2014 - 13:52 | 4744121 pot_and_kettle
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Happy to contribute, twat.

Fri, 05/09/2014 - 11:30 | 4743482 Latina Lover
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Hey Sablya, or should I call you Maidenite/fascist,

Your false flag failed. The world now knows via video, audio and witness testimony that your pravy sector burned and killed 100's of people. 

Keep lying, however, while I enjoy what will eventually happen to you and your scum when Putin gives you an asskicking, Russian Style.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2VnvW_2_Z6c

Fri, 05/09/2014 - 11:46 | 4743585 sablya
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Shall I call you a Colorad?  Or a Putin puppy?  Or just a moron?

Fri, 05/09/2014 - 11:52 | 4743611 Winston Churchill
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Better to remain silent, and let everyone think you a fool, than comment and remove all doubt.
The only question left is are you a fool, or a nazi ?
Or both ?

Fri, 05/09/2014 - 11:57 | 4743639 sablya
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The real Winston Churchill wanted to continue on to take out the Soviet Union immediately following WW2 in "Operation Unthinkable."  Same with General Patton who was "disdainful of Russians as "drunks" with "no regard for human life."  He wanted to press on to take Moscow.  You ought to be ashamed to take Churchill's name to yourself and yet write like such a fool.

Fri, 05/09/2014 - 12:10 | 4743673 Winston Churchill
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Sticks and stone may break my bones, but words, from nazi's, will never hurt me.
Nothing in life is black or white.Churchill had many faults,
but without him,and others, , we would all be speaking German now, and giving salutes to Der Fuhrer, as I'm sure you do anyhow.
Maybe you should change your avatar to Bandera to match your
persona. Mine doesn't match Churchill's by the way.

Fri, 05/09/2014 - 13:13 | 4743951 sondernauch
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Better German than American Yiddish.

Fri, 05/09/2014 - 12:34 | 4743757 J_jade
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Hey Latina Lover go suck Putin's dick and make sure you bend over to take that little USSR dick up your ass.

First off there will be no WW3.  This is just another Cold War.  Nothing to see here move along blah blah blah

Secondly youre little more then just another conspiracy nut job that has no idea about how the world really works.

Third im sure your russian so that automaitcally make you an idiot so go back to your USSR.  And if your not, then im sure you'll be hawled off to a FEMA camp at first light which is where you belong.

Ya FUCKIN PINKO

Fri, 05/09/2014 - 14:17 | 4744223 Kirk2NCC1701
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Can you blush?

Fri, 05/09/2014 - 14:15 | 4744176 Againstthelie
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I would be careful with the word "knowing".

Myself being strictly on the side of Russia, but there was a video on RT.com, that showed how a man was alegedly shooting with a gun at people in a house. I felt something was wrong with the video an when I watched it the thied time I recognized it: the camera was only showing the man and not where he was shooting at! Faked.

 

So I have become very suspicious.

And what is making me even more suspicious about Putin now, is how he plays the May 8th "victory day". This day was not a victory for all people. Many nations have come under the Bolshevik regime with millions of victims. While I think it's the right of every nation to have a special view about the past, to play that card in teh current situation is not a sign of deescalation from the Russian side. How should the Baltic nations or the Ukrainians feel, if Putin tries to impose the Communist propaganda on the surrounding nations?

 

I think, with this ridiculous antifascist propagandacourse, he is digging the hole deeper and isolating Russia from the surrounding nations which had sympathies so far for Russia in this development.

And that's not the only development that smells bad: how about that Russian NGOs supporting Soviet monuments in foreign countries? It's the right of every nation to decide on her own, which monuments it wants or which ones she wants to get rid of.

Currently Russia is not making any friends and the Globalists probably are winning big support in the affected countries because of showing everyone that Putin's Russia was like the Soviet Union. When the Ziomedia begin to use this open flank, then very soon all the old cold-war stereotypes will be resurrected in the USA. Maybe that's where they want things to go. And then Russia will lose lots of support.

Fri, 05/09/2014 - 11:30 | 4743498 tonyw
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was there supossed to be a /sarc there?

Fri, 05/09/2014 - 11:32 | 4743508 Aussiekiwi
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What a lovely fictional story you wrote, all it was missing was the alien invaders assisting Russia to overthrow the heroic defenders of democracy, perhaps a little more crack next time before writing.

Fri, 05/09/2014 - 11:38 | 4743543 No Quarter
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They do have a history of using gas- anyone remember when the Russians gassed the chechnayans that were holding a  theater hostage? Seems like a bunch of innocent people died if i remember correctly.

Fri, 05/09/2014 - 11:53 | 4743620 sablya
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That is correct.  The same sort of irregularities took place in the 2002 Nord-Ost siege.  Anna Politkovskaya's account of the tragic event is quite enlightening.  Yeah, Russia had the means, motive and opportunity (MMO).  It's pretty obvious once you think about it.  There is really no other explanation for so many deaths when other people were sitting on the roof, perfectly safe and sound. 

Fri, 05/09/2014 - 12:27 | 4743731 IndianaJohn
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Sablya, -- aren't you supposed to be preparing those matzos with the blood of white children?

Fri, 05/09/2014 - 12:12 | 4743690 Charles The Ham...
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The chechnyans would have killed them all anyway. The Russians got to send a message by saying "We dont care how many hostages you take, we'll kill everybody." Good strategy that in the larger picture probably saved a lot of lives.

Fri, 05/09/2014 - 12:08 | 4743677 unplugged
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Nudelman, is that you ?

Fri, 05/09/2014 - 11:10 | 4743411 the not so migh...
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PUTIN SAYS OTHERS MUST PAY THEIR GAS BILLS; OR ELSE

Fri, 05/09/2014 - 11:19 | 4743440 CrashisOptimistic
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Pretty much that.

Pay your bills.  Then we'll talk about that new cash-on-delivery arrangement that begins in 3 weeks.

BTW, we'll be informing your populace that they can have their gas subsidy restored, undo the IMF austerity, and even get another price cut on their gas if they just come and remove you from office -- with or without your bloodshed.

Have a nice day.

Fri, 05/09/2014 - 12:06 | 4743664 sablya
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Kiev should charge Crimea twice as much for water and electricity.

Fri, 05/09/2014 - 12:24 | 4743725 CrashisOptimistic
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You do realize the electricity is from the Russian grid?

Fri, 05/09/2014 - 13:48 | 4744103 Zwelgje
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touché 

Fri, 05/09/2014 - 12:30 | 4743742 exi1ed0ne
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Russia ships them gas, they resell to Europe with some for domestic use.  Where the hell are the EU payments? 

Fri, 05/09/2014 - 11:56 | 4743422 JustObserving
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Putin, if you had been spying on every politician in this world for decades, you would get a lot more obeisance despite droning poor people, starting wars based on lies, and destroying freedom and liberty everywhere. Merkel would be your sock puppet. And Cameron your poodle.

You might even win a Nobel Prize or two.

Pulitzer Prize-winning investigative journalist Seymour Hersh has published an article demonstrating that the US government and President Barack Obama knowingly lied when they claimed that the Syrian government had carried out a sarin gas attack on insurgent-held areas last August.

http://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2013/12/10/pers-d10.html

Fri, 05/09/2014 - 11:13 | 4743425 pods
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Laughable that the acting gov of Ukraine can say anything about Putin.

How do you say "Who runs Bartertown" in Russian?

pods

Fri, 05/09/2014 - 11:26 | 4743485 BlindMonkey
Fri, 05/09/2014 - 13:17 | 4743967 Z_End
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Kto upravlyayet Bartertown?

Fri, 05/09/2014 - 11:18 | 4743434 Dr. Engali
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"We demand the Russian side to return to the civilized way of international relations"

 

You overthrew the government you ignorant fuck, which I wouldn't have a problem with if it wasn't for the fact that it was a CIA operation. 

Fri, 05/09/2014 - 23:47 | 4745590 StychoKiller
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How convenient it must be to have the memory of a goldfish!

Fri, 05/09/2014 - 11:19 | 4743453 b_thunder
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About historical justice and self determination of people, what about Chechnya and the 4 Kuril islands seized by USSR from Japan?

What about Kenigsberg/Kaliningrad seized from Germany?

 

Fri, 05/09/2014 - 11:38 | 4743541 Charles The Ham...
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Chechnya had it coming to them. Lets just say in an alternate universe they got their independence. Then what? They abandon their Jihad against Russia? They got what they deserved when they first picked up a koran. The Japanese dont miss those islands and the people on those islands dont miss Japan. The Germans dont even want Kaliningrad back. Step into the real world.

Fri, 05/09/2014 - 11:20 | 4743460 Itchy and Scratchy
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Lol! Vladdie thinks the West is interested in Democracy! Lol! What a maroon!

Fri, 05/09/2014 - 11:21 | 4743464 Bernoulli
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"unauthorised visit"?

What did they expect? That he applies for a tourist visa? wtf

Fri, 05/09/2014 - 11:30 | 4743497 BlindMonkey
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"Treaty of Friendship, Cooperation and Partnership between Ukraine and the Russian Federation of 1997"

 

I wonder if Kiev's copy of the this doc burned up in the Trade Union fire in Odessa.

Fri, 05/09/2014 - 11:24 | 4743475 Winston Churchill
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Methinks, Kiev protesteth too much.

Fri, 05/09/2014 - 11:26 | 4743481 Relentless101
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Independence is a fallacy for the Ukraine people. They are forced to choose east or west because they have no infrastructure to be truly independent of either side. If they aren't willing to be really fucking cold and really fucking broke for the foreseable future, then they are stuck in the middle. I say split the fucking thing and be done. People who want west can go west and those who want east get east.

Fri, 05/09/2014 - 11:26 | 4743484 Atlas Crapped
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Funny how ZH was at first pro PUTIN, now he can do no right?

Is there a conflict of interest, or has PUTIN suddenly changed course. I don't really sense the latter, though when I look at cable TV, every news source is demonizing Putin. I mean ALL of them.

It's surreal the difference between internet and cable networks

Enjoy it while you can, censorship is coming, and that's one thing I don't commend PUTIN for, but otherwise, he has acted in accordance with sovereign law.

Fri, 05/09/2014 - 11:32 | 4743511 Ghordius
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note that nearly half of the article is a verbatim quote of the Ukrainian Foreign Ministry

Fri, 05/09/2014 - 11:32 | 4743513 McMolotov
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I don't have cable, but my parents do. Anytime I'm over at their house and the TV is on, it's like I've stepped into a parallel universe.

Fri, 05/09/2014 - 11:34 | 4743531 tonyw
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if you're looking at merican media then it's all owned by a very few companies so wall to wall demonisation from the aborted syrian invasion.

they make contributions to both main parties thus they can write the laws to suit them

the staff have to go along with it or get fired and its not like there's really a great choice of other employers

 

Fri, 05/09/2014 - 11:27 | 4743486 Itchy and Scratchy
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He needs alittle Arethra goin' on!             R.E.S.P.E.C.T. ....find out what it means to me!

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SAI_Nv3qWto

Fri, 05/09/2014 - 11:28 | 4743492 ptoemmes
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This one is EZ (more current version): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DiHZc4KFls4

Fri, 05/09/2014 - 11:31 | 4743505 SharkBit
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This press release was obviously written by USSA State Department.

Fri, 05/09/2014 - 11:32 | 4743512 Smegley Wanxalot
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I respect Russia about a billion times more than I respect the USSA.

Fri, 05/09/2014 - 11:34 | 4743524 Global Hunter
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We demand the Russian side to return to the civilized way of international relations, listen to the decisive voice of international community

The Nazi Uke government might as well say, "Fuck the people and what they want and say, the Russians should listen to the international community of politicians and bankers wants." 

We don't even bother to pretend we care about democracy any longer in the west.  Pathetic.

Fri, 05/09/2014 - 11:36 | 4743537 tonyw
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at the UN the "decisive voice of international community" are threatened by the USSA to toe the line or else

Fri, 05/09/2014 - 11:43 | 4743566 Global Hunter
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change decisive to divisive as in "The USSA and HATO are the divisive force of the international community" and I wouldn't be so bent out of shape. 

The pyschopaths aren't even trying to fool us any longer and I think at the very least they should give the public a reach around while they're fucking us in the ass. 

Fri, 05/09/2014 - 11:40 | 4743540 Continue With This
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Regarding respect.

I'm from Romania. I emigrated about 10 years ago to the West. Lived in various western european countries. At first, when I arrived, I was naive regarding the West and westerners.

I had this idilic idea that all westerners are university educated, middle class. 

So I didn't expect ignorance. But it happened to me. Westerners' ignorance hit me.

I was called a gypsy, thief, every time I mentioned I'm from Romania almost everyone took a step back as if I was suffering from the bubonic plague.

 

Years have passed. I learned that westerners' high standard of living is built on: colonialism, imperialism, exploitation of millions around the World, and recently on debt.

I also realized that today the West is not a friend of the East. I realized that West and East are in competition. So I set myself on a journey to use westerners' ignorance to my own benefit.

My advice to Putin is:

- don't expect respect from westerners, it never was there, is not and will neber be

- prepare for war, centuries of colonialism and imperialism have taught the West how to steal resources

- encourage westerners to be ignorant and proud. That way they will contribute to their own demise and even speed the process

 

West is ignorant, full of hubris, pride. It's also demoralized. The 'people' are mostly debt slaves turned into these automatons called 'consumers'.

With a bit of patience, West will crumble. And West's house of cards will fall very soon.

 

The East only needs to be patient. And prepared to defend its resources.

Fri, 05/09/2014 - 11:42 | 4743555 sablya
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Try living in Russia for a while.  You'll appreciate the West, warts and all, much more after that.

Russia is almost DOA - a whole country with endemic, systemic alcoholism.  And, aside from the folks who live in Moscow and Petersburg, they are dumber than tin cans.

Fri, 05/09/2014 - 11:51 | 4743612 Continue With This
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I'm from Romania.

Romania's per capita GDP  as purchasing power parity is about 15,000 USD.

Russia's is about 18,000.


If I can 'survive' in Romania, I can in Russia.

There is no big difference between Russia and Romania, regarding citizens' standard of living. And since Russia is mainly Othodox, and I am also Orthodox, I believe I can manage.

 

But I was talking about respect. Something that the West doesn't have for anyone who is not part of their 'developed countries club'.

Recently I enjoy Romanians' negative image. I like how everyone dare not mess with me just because I'm Romanian. Gives me breathing space. They are afraid I might eat their babies. I enjoy how easy it is to use their ignorance to my advantage. Like for example, the shit I love the most is how I know their society well, but they do not have a fucking clue what and where Romania is.

Many advantages arise simply from that.

And Russia is in a similar position as Romania. We are gypsies. Russians are drunkards and dangerous mafia guys. This level of ignorance on westerners' part, on the long run, will help us.

Know your enemy well still applies, even today. And the West has no clue about the East.

Fri, 05/09/2014 - 12:13 | 4743692 sablya
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I can't debate your personal experience but my experience contradicts it.  I interact with people from Romania, Bulgaria, Turkey, Russia, Ukraine, Belarus on a daily basis and there is no lack of respect all around.  I really can't agree with what you are saying.  Perhaps you are dealing with a different class of people - sure there are trailer trash in the West who are ignorant, but ordinary people in the US would not show disrespect to someone from Romania.  We have so many nationalities all around us.

Fri, 05/09/2014 - 15:17 | 4743726 Continue With This
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I was talking mostly about western Europe.

And not about trailer trash necessarily.

 

In Italy, the people that treated me the best were old people, with no highschool degree. Hard working people.

The younger ones, 30-40, are the fake ones. They'll smile at you, but then stab you in the back.

The kids, 20-30, they act ok, if you are willing to act like them: drugs, alcohol, party all day, kiss their asses, etc..

 

The thing I've learned about Western Europeans is that everyone has a "small-cock-issue".

The Portuguese with the Spaniards.

The Spaniards with the French.

The Italians with the Swiss.

The French with the Germans.

The Belgians with the Dutch.

The Finns with the Swedes.

The Swedes with Norway.

 

And so, to make themselves feel better about this, when dealing with an Eastern European, since they subconsciously think people from EE are somehow inferior, they will make all sorts of jokes about you, the Eastern European. And they will expect you laugh at their jokes.

Fri, 05/09/2014 - 12:21 | 4743714 sablya
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BTW, though Romania has a somewhat lower per capita GDP than Russia, the wealth distribution in Russia is far less equitable.  In fact, Russia has the highest level of wealth inequality in the world, which is pretty shocking given the extremes in the West.  So, if you take out the top 1% of oligarchs in Russia, what is left in per capita GDP to the masses is actually much lower than Romania which isn't plagued with those parasites.

Fri, 05/09/2014 - 12:28 | 4743735 Continue With This
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False.

The difference is only in the amount of wealth of the oligarchs.

The richest Romanian has a wealth of about 2 billion USD.

That's what Abramovichi spends on his holidays plus coffee.

 

Romania has oligarchs just as Russia does. Russian oligarchs are rich by the tens of billions, while Romanians are mostly hundreds of millions, with very few have 1-2 billions.

Fri, 05/09/2014 - 12:41 | 4743793 sablya
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That's the point.  You just agreed with me after saying "False."

 

The annual global wealth study published by the financial services group Credit Suisse says a mere 110 Russian citizens now control 35 percent of the total household wealth across the vast country.

Fri, 05/09/2014 - 15:18 | 4743963 Continue With This
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No.

I was trying to say that Romania is just like Russia, similar, but on a smaller scale.

There are oligarchs in Romania. Not as rich as the Russian ones.

There is wealth inequality in Romania. Just like in Russia.

 

We are similar, just that in Romania everything is on a smaller scale.

Fri, 05/09/2014 - 12:22 | 4743717 McMolotov
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If there's one thing that will destroy the West, or at least the United States, it's hubris. The whole "American Exceptionalism" thing speaks volumes. Americans live in a bubble and, for the most part, know absolutely nothing about the rest of the world. What's worse is that ignorance is celebrated. There's the feeling that we don't need to look past our borders because we're already certain everything beyond them is inferior.

This narrow-minded sense of superiority will doom us.

Fri, 05/09/2014 - 13:24 | 4743997 Winston of Oceania
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"The whole "American Exceptionalism" thing speaks volumes"

That is being misapplied, it does not refer to Americans but to Liberty and the freedom of commerce it once engendered, Ludwig von Mises speaks of it in The Theory of Money and Credit originally penned after the first world war. Like wild pigs the people have been trapped by first a length of fence here followed by another there until finally a gate was installed and then later closed. A government has to first take something from it rightful owner in order to give it away to buy a vote. It was never meant to apply to any individual or even a group of people but vote buyers, AKA politicians sure like to use the term. Oh and by the way there sparky Russians, on this page at least, have no shortage of hubris...

Fri, 05/09/2014 - 15:23 | 4744013 Continue With This
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All empires suffer from "exceptionalism".

And it all goes back to that ancient whore of Rome.

 

And I as a Romanian, who supposedly is half roman, at least linguisticaly, should praise Rome.

As a side note, one of the thing that baffled me about Latins from Western Europe was that they thought us Romanians speak Russian. Must be the letter R or something according to their logic.

When I told them we have a language, that in many cases is closer to Latin than say Italian or Spanish, they hysterically laugh me off.

 

Latin: soror mea est

Romanian : Ea este sora mea

Italian: Lei e mia sorella

English: She is my sister (even English has a lot in common with Latin)

Which is closer to latin??

 

Anyway, many think that most of the centurions that fought for the Rome in her legions were romans. When the bulk were slaves, from various tribes. Thracians, Scythians, etc.

Since Rome wasn't about to pay all of them super handsomely, they invented a food that was supposed to keep the centurions happy.

The food was pride. You, the centurion that is about to die for Rome, you are the lucky one. Be proud. Why? Because you are a centurion. Because you die for Rome. Roman exceptionalism.

All empires suffer from this. Why?

Because empires are ruled by an emperor or/and oligarchs.

And the rulers aren't about to share the loot with the commoners. So they need to invent shit like imperial pride. Imperial exceptionalism.

Fri, 05/09/2014 - 16:37 | 4744766 Wahooo
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Here's some advice for getting by in America: stay the fuck away from anyone wearing a suit.

Fri, 05/09/2014 - 11:50 | 4743569 Ghordius
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I'm really sorry you had to make such bad experiences     (deleted)

Fri, 05/09/2014 - 12:15 | 4743693 Continue With This
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You are a nice guy.

But you also are blind.

I've read your comments through the years, and you seem to be the pro-EU type.

At least in your comments many times you defended the European Union.

 

I was like you. In the past I thought that an union on the continent is doable. Not anymore.

We in Europe are not united. It cannot be done. Too much ignorance. Too much selfishness of all the parts involved.

I think that the EU is a lie. And Germans paying for everyone is not healthy. 

 

I think a return to national frontiers would be a good thing for Europeans.

We need to acknowledge in Europe that we love to hate our neighbours. It's who we are.

It's our history of 2 world wars.

Fri, 05/09/2014 - 12:44 | 4743790 edotabin
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Integration can work just fine and if we look into the future it would be foolish to think otherwise. We are one species on a tiny marble in a vast universe. We should all eventually be one and move forward.  The problem I have with the EU, the recent resurgence of the false east-west paradigm and other similar horseshit, is that it is forced and coerced to the max. They even lied about the nature of the EU in the beginning. They had to or else it wouldn't fly. Lies, lies and more lies. It is a bad high school play. Moreover, the directors of this pathetic play are not fooling us for our own good. They are fooling us while skimming off the top. They are turning our lives into a money-making enterprise for themselves.

People simply must grow beyond this mindset and only when they do will there be any true progress. Until we do grow however, we will have .... this. When you tell the truth EVERYTHING becomes 1000 times simpler. It just usually closes the window on profits and power.

Fri, 05/09/2014 - 11:50 | 4743605 Canucklehead
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_New_Colossus

. "Give me your tired, your poor,
Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free,
The wretched refuse of your teeming shore.
Send these, the homeless, tempest-tost to me,
I lift my lamp beside the golden door!"

There are all kinds in the West.  You can find anything you want if you look for it.  There is good and there is bad.

Sometimes that house of cards is built with more than cards.

Fri, 05/09/2014 - 11:57 | 4743640 Continue With This
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I was talking mostly about western Europeans.

I'll admit that I've met a couple of American tourists. And they had an openess towards me, that western europeans did not.

But I'm afraid that those Americans tourists are part of the minority in America. Middle class, educated, that can afford to visit Europe.

Maybe I'm over generalizing.

Fri, 05/09/2014 - 12:04 | 4743663 unplugged
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There's plenty of Americans that share your thoughts.  Our govt has gone rogue and has been governing against the will of the people, against the consent of the governed, a long time ago.  We live in an elective dictatorship.  Our govts at all levels are corrupt and criminal.  Our financial centers (Wall St, etc) are corrupt and criminal.  And they are in bed together to create a fascist state.  While the West descends into fascism, communism - the East is ascending into what the U.S. once was.

Fri, 05/09/2014 - 12:56 | 4743854 Canucklehead
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The bottom line is that people are people.  It doesn't matter about race or creed.  Human nature means a certain percentage cannot be pleased.

That being said, most people will help those that help themselves "if" they see something of themselves in "those" people.  If there is not a sense of shared values, human nature usually holds sway and tribal predjudices come to the fore.

There is a lot of ignorance out there, expressed on all sides.  Putin needs to walk the line to meet his objectives.  Many suspect he will be like Erdogan and simply get off the "bus" once he reaches his "stop".  The bigger question is "What is Putin's overall objective vis-a-vis the Russian people?"  What about those Russians who disagree with his approach to the West?  Are they to be silenced?  Is it expected they should emmigrate somewhere else?  Where does Russia see itself within the context of mult-national interests? 

Does Putin feel the West has gotten too "progressive" for the benefit of the world in general?  Is his move an attempt to add some backbone to Western geo and domestic politics?

Fri, 05/09/2014 - 14:13 | 4744208 gdpetti
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True, and after the Western supported bolsheviks and later in the 90s, the Western backed oligarchs who raped the nation, one would think Putin has learned who he can or cannot trust. False flag ops are nothing new, history is full of them by Pempire-builders and their greedy psychopathic cousins, such as J.P.Morgan... heard of sinking of the Lusitania? Carrying all that ammo on board, and Churchill's order to make it a sitting duck? How the German Embassy here in the States tried to publish a warning to the public that most of the mainstream media at the time did not publish upon the request of the State Dept.... sound familiar?

www.sott.net/article/278740-Sinking-the-Lusitania-An-act-of-mass-murder-...

'But the House of Morgan, House of Rothschild, and other banksters were thoroughly pleased at America's entry into the War. It meant that they continued to benefit hugely from the wholesale slaughter and misery of millions of programmed human beings.

When one thinks of Pearl Harbour, Gulf of Tonkin, 9/11, and other false flags it seems that some things never change. The lessons of history are quickly forgotten. The public has always been so utterly gullible and predictable.

But thanks to the Internet and social media, that is all now beginning to change... "

Fri, 05/09/2014 - 11:38 | 4743545 Hindenburg...Oh Man
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what's been juicing the markets since 11:10? this?

Fri, 05/09/2014 - 11:41 | 4743556 Spungo
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I see people are fleeing to bitcoin on news of this:

https://ounce.me/

Fri, 05/09/2014 - 11:46 | 4743586 cosmyccowboy
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  wgat's up with the silver market?  i have CNBC commoditties quote page up and it's showing as of 11:45 AM only 5 contracts have traded?????

Fri, 05/09/2014 - 12:06 | 4743670 sbenard
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Hey Putie Pute? You mean like you "respected" Ukraine?

Fri, 05/09/2014 - 12:06 | 4743672 jeffgroove102
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Putin Warns "Other Countries Must Respect Russia"

Aaaah, here we go again. Politicians spewing SUBJECTIVE meanings to the public. Usually code speak for "we will do whatever we want, and whatever happens, it will fit our narrative."

 

When do we get rid of these crocodile smile people (foreign and domestic), whom have no ethical qualifications for what they are doing, and want to run the world with no knowledge of how economies function. This blatant tribalism is getting really tired. These people need to be RETIRED, before they bomb the world back into the stone age to suit their fevered egos.

Fri, 05/09/2014 - 12:14 | 4743699 intric8
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Russia doesn't just surrender their prerogative for western interests. Or more specifically, neocon chicanery.

Respect the sovereignty of Russia. Mutual respect, people!

Fri, 05/09/2014 - 13:05 | 4743905 Winston of Oceania
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Free Konigsberg and leave, THEN demand respect.

Fri, 05/09/2014 - 12:24 | 4743724 sablya
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A report on global wealth has determined that Russia now has the highest level of wealth inequality in the world -- with the exception of a few small Caribbean nations where billionaires have taken up residency.

The annual global wealth study published by the financial services group Credit Suisse says a mere 110 Russian citizens now control 35 percent of the total household wealth across the vast country.

The report says Russia has one billionaire for every $11 billion in wealth while, across the rest of the world, there is one billionaire for every $170 billion.

http://www.rferl.org/content/russia-billionaire-wealth-inequality/251324...

Fri, 05/09/2014 - 12:33 | 4743750 SpanishGoop
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"We demand the Russian side to.."

Good luck with that you bunch of defaulters.

 

Fri, 05/09/2014 - 12:34 | 4743753 Son of Captain Nemo
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Perhaps this is why Putin has been reluctant to send in full force into the rest of Eastern Ukraine to "throttle" the remaining Junta in Kiev?...

Given Prince Bandar's threats prior to the Winter Games in Sochi which he obviously made good on with the bombing deaths the Saudi's orchestrated in Vologograd it's probably safe to say that the U.S. has had many discussions with Russia of other threats that would follow, and the deaths in Volgograd simply served as one of many warnings.

If Putin is being threatened with a "False Flag" that the West will attempt to pin on Russia this may be the reason he has resisted using the force he should have when he supported the resistence fighters in Crimea which led to it's annexation.

Bet a day doesn't go by now where Putin wishes he had come clean with the truth of what Russian intelligence knew about that other False Flag that got us to this point September 11, 2001.  He played the game 12 years ago because he had to.  Now he needs to come clean to the World and show Israeli, Saudi, U.S. and British involvement.  The timing is most definitely appropriate for such an announcement, and at this point what would he have to lose?!!!

The rest from Mike Rivero's WhatReallyHappened on a Steve Lendman article written earlier in the week on just this topic -

 

"Unfortunately, these skirmishes are merely a prelude to a much larger war in the region.

I am fully expecting the West and US to stage an horrific false flag here, to be blamed on Russia, as the casus belli for a war against Russia, and I am not alone in this expectation: Steven Lendman, an honorable voice of reason and peace in a wilderness of warmongers, wrote yesterday at globalresearch.com:

False flags are a longstanding US tradition. They go way back. They are used often. Previous articles discussed them. They target independent nations lawlessly. They eliminate outlier foreign leaders. They aim to remove all challengers to US global dominance. They prioritize conflict and instability. They create enemies where none exist. According to VOR, a false flag provocation against Russia is planned. “Russian military uniforms and fake IDs of Russian officers have been taken to the eastern Ukrainian city of Donetsk,” said VOR. A staged attack on Ukrainian border guards is planned. It’s reminiscent of how WW II began. Nazis impersonated alleged Polish terrorists. They attacked the Gleiwitz radio station in Upper Silesia, Germany. It bordered both countries. It was pretext to attack Poland. WW II followed. Is Obama risking No. III? Is he mad enough to try? Is he beholden to crazies that extreme? A Ukrainian official said on condition of anonymity: “The task is to stage an attack on Ukrainian border guards by people dressed in Russian military uniforms and make a video of it.” “The SBU (Ukraine Security Service) has transferred about 20 personal bodyguards of Dnepropetrovsk Region governor (Igor) Kolomoisky from Kiev to Donetsk.” “(T)he group” will team with (neo-Nazi) Right Sector” hoodlums. It’ll “accompan(y) a cargo of about 200 sets of Russian military uniforms and about 70 (blank]) IDs of Russian military officers.” At issue is crushing Eastern Ukrainian resistance. It’s eliminating freedom fighters for justice. It’s smashing all opposition.

There are two referendums to be held in various places in Eastern Ukraine; one this weekend, on the 11th, and the other, to be held on the 18th of this month. If in fact such a a false flag is planned and contemplate, I would almost be willing to bet real money that it will be held between these dates.

I am hoping to heck that Steven is wrong on this, but it is rare with this man that he is.

For those of you inclined to prayer, please do so about this potential horrific event; because folks, something wicked this way comes, and it appears that citizens of the US are about to be dragged into a war against Russia which the US military is most likely not to win, because the US military doesn't have the money, the troop strength, or the manufacturing to insure a positive outcome to a conventional war against Russia. And this is what makes the military scenario so scarily dangerous here."... Mike Rivero (WhatReallyHappened.com)

Fri, 05/09/2014 - 16:28 | 4744739 Wahooo
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Bandar is going to get nuked one of these days.

Fri, 05/09/2014 - 12:55 | 4743847 orez65
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"*PUTIN SAYS OTHERS MUST RESPECT RIGHT TO HISTORICAL JUSTICE"

You dumb f??k!!

What about the land that Russia stole from China? !!!!!!!

You are playing with a double edge sword!!

Fri, 05/09/2014 - 12:55 | 4743849 orez65
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"*PUTIN SAYS OTHERS MUST RESPECT RIGHT TO HISTORICAL JUSTICE"

You dumb f??k!!

What about the land that Russia stole from China? !!!!!!!

You are playing with a double edge sword!!

Fri, 05/09/2014 - 12:55 | 4743850 orez65
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"*PUTIN SAYS OTHERS MUST RESPECT RIGHT TO HISTORICAL JUSTICE"

You dumb f??k!!

What about the land that Russia stole from China? !!!!!!!

You are playing with a double edge sword!!

Fri, 05/09/2014 - 13:00 | 4743873 Winston of Oceania
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Free Konigsberg, Russians GO HOME!!!

Fri, 05/09/2014 - 13:18 | 4743978 matrix2012
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2,000 Takfiri terrorist fighters being deployed from Syria into Kiev


A foreboding “urgent action bulletin” released by the Federal Security Services (FSB) states that President Putin this morning declared that a “State of Red War” now exists and has ordered an “immediate deployment” of the much feared and highly secretive Spetsgruppa A (Alpha Group) forces into Ukraine to counter the estimated 2,000 Takfiri terrorist fighters being deployed from Syria into Kiev by the Obama regime.

A “State of Red War” declaration means that a conflict within or outside of Russia’s borders endangers a “significant” number of Russian speaking peoples and could possibly soon escalate into a “State of Total War”, the latter which allows for the use of nuclear weapons and a full-scale deployment of military forces.

A large number of terrorist Takfiri fighters in Syria, who bear Saudi and Chechnian nationalities and receive financial and military backup from the Saudi intelligence agency, have been transferred to the Ukrainian capital, Kiev, on several planes to help the Ukrainian army in its fight against the pro-Russian population,” an Arab security official told FNA on Sunday on the condition of anonymity due to the secrecy of the issue.

“The forces have been immediately dispatched to Kramatorsk city in Eastern Ukraine, and are now fighting beside the Ukrainian army forces against the pro-Russians under the name of militias who support the government,” the source added.

The source explained that Saudi Arabia seeks to take revenge from Russia and pro-Russian people in Ukraine due to Moscow’s support for Syrian President Bashar al-Assad in the war on rebel groups."

Read it here and here.
Fri, 05/09/2014 - 16:27 | 4744735 Wahooo
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Wonder if the U.S. has anything like a "Red War" event?  Nah, obama would never proect Americans overseas.

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