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Russia Celebrates Victory Over Nazi Germany, Putin Visits Newly "Acquired" Crimea, Ukraine Cries Foul

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A day after Russia shocked the world with an impressive demonstration of military preparation for what it dubbed was a "massive nuclear attack", the country is celebrating its traditional May 9 national holiday which marks the Soviet victory over Nazis in World War II. Among the people watching the traditional and impressive military demonstration on Red Square was Russian president Vladimir Putin.

This is a full replay of what he saw.

“It’s a day when we all especially keenly feel what it means to be faithful to the motherland and how important it is to be able to defend its interests,” Putin said at the Moscow parade. “It’s a holiday when the all-triumphant power of patriotism celebrates victory.”

However it is not Putin's presence as the rally that was notably, but what he did after, when hours after the he watched the tanks rumble on Red Square Putin flew to Crimea for the first time since its annexation, to oversee Russia's newest territorial expansion. This happened even as both Ukraine, Germany and the head of NATO all voiced strong objections to such a visit by Putin which not only formalizes the expansion, but spits in the eye of Western attempts to contain the Ukraine conflict and/or de-escalate:

German Chancellor Angela Merkel said three days ago a visit by Putin to Crimea would be regrettable.

 

“The situation there is so grave that a trip like this could provoke greater violence,” Tatyana Stanovaya, an analyst at the Moscow-based Center for Political Technologies, said by phone May 7. “The visit would appeal to Russians at home who are happy to have Crimea back in the country’s fold.”

Ukrainian Prime Minister Arseniy Yatsenyuk said yesterday he’s concerned that Russia is “planning provocations” today.

Ukraine was even more despondent:

  • UKRAINE FOREIGN MINISTRY PROTESTS PUTIN'S CRIMEA VISIT
  • UKRAINE: PUTIN VISIT CONFIRMS RUSSIA WANTS TO ESCALATE TENSION

The tension started by a CIA-funded violent coup in Ukraine? Why yes. yes he does.

While we commiserate with the completely helpless and without leverage Ukraine government, as well as the reliant on Russian gas Germany, perhaps consider this a preview of what Putin will do next year when long after East Ukraine aka "Novorossiya" has seceded from the west, the Russian president will have a land route from the Kremlin all the way to Sevastopol. He may even ride a bear all the way from Point A to point B. Bare chested.

 

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Fri, 05/09/2014 - 08:38 | 4742884 LawsofPhysics
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Yes, yes, we really hate it when other countries adopt truly American practices...

Fri, 05/09/2014 - 08:39 | 4742887 GetZeeGold
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Meet the new boss...

Fri, 05/09/2014 - 08:54 | 4742926 Haus-Targaryen
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Quit similar to the old one, save the rhetoric. 

USSA/EUSSR

"We are here to bring freedom and democracy to your country."

Russia

"We want this piece of real estate."

But, I would prefer a wolf in wolf'S clothing as opposed to an wolf in an idiot sheep's clothing.

Fri, 05/09/2014 - 11:33 | 4743519 Anusocracy
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The Vladimir Monroe Doctrine.

Fri, 05/09/2014 - 09:01 | 4742933 TeamDepends
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There's nothing in the streets
Looks any different to me
And the slogans are replaced, by-the-bye
And the parting on the left
Are now parting on the right
And the beards have all grown longer overnight

 

Fri, 05/09/2014 - 09:16 | 4742983 Eyeroller
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... same as the old boss.

(But will we get fooled again?)

Fri, 05/09/2014 - 09:39 | 4743038 Headbanger
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We already were a long time ago.

Fri, 05/09/2014 - 08:57 | 4742932 BandGap
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Snappy outfits, catchy tunes. This rates an 8 out of 10 on the Bluff-o-Meter.

Fuck, I've given up on reality. What we have going here is a lot more interesting and fun!

Fri, 05/09/2014 - 11:35 | 4743534 Anusocracy
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Can't wait for the new TV programs like Dancing With the Tsars.

Fri, 05/09/2014 - 12:41 | 4743786 gcjohns1971
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They already have it - only it is on ICE.

They call it "Ice Age".

 

It is a great show. 

It is a pity that most on both sides will have to die before sanity reasserts itself.

Fri, 05/09/2014 - 12:51 | 4743834 gcjohns1971
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Like invading Latvia, Lithuania, Estonia, Poland, Chekoslavakia, Georgia, Azerbaijan, Kyrgyzistan, Kazakhstan, and Afghanistan....just to name a few from the last century?

Well, what comes around goes around.

Russia does seem to have a thing for invading its neighbors.  And then it is strangely suprized when their neighbors invade, or begin insurgencies against them.  It usually happens once each century or so.

 

America, on the other hand, invades OTHER COUNTRIES' NEIGHBORS.  I suppose it is just a matter of preference to the sociopaths in charge.

Maybe we could all do the same thing, but in a way that harms the civilians less, and simply bomb our own capitals?

- It would save fuel for the bombers

-Targeting would be much more precise

- Collateral damage would be less

- Only the assholes who want a fight would get it

- The rest of the national industry would be unaffected.

- It would provide a purpose to the intentional collection of psychopaths in government.  We gather them with promises of power, and them eliminate them - much like you entice mice with tasty cheese into the trap.

 

 

Fri, 05/09/2014 - 08:39 | 4742885 TeamDepends
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I love the smell of borscht in the morning.

Fri, 05/09/2014 - 08:40 | 4742889 RafterManFMJ
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Who cares?

Say, when is the parade where we celebrate our victory over the aggressors N. Vietnam, N. Korea, Afghanistan, Iraq, Grenada, Libya, Panama, Serbia, Yemen, Somalia, Syria, and East Bumb****?

Man, that'll be one SWEET parade!

Fri, 05/09/2014 - 08:43 | 4742897 MeMongo
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Indeed a SWEET parade! Undoubtedly chock full of matzo ball vendors :-O

Fri, 05/09/2014 - 08:48 | 4742914 Snidley Whipsnae
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Granada... yeah, we really kicked the shit out of that super power!

Don't forget Cuba... someday Coca Kola is going to raise an army and take back their sugar cane fields.

Fri, 05/09/2014 - 09:41 | 4743044 Headbanger
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And when does the UK celebrate its smashing victory over Argentina?

Fri, 05/09/2014 - 09:39 | 4743039 toady
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The 4th of July.

Fri, 05/09/2014 - 08:40 | 4742890 MeMongo
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Take that Bitchez!

Fri, 05/09/2014 - 09:13 | 4742975 intric8
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Cool hand vlad continues to one-up these pro west asshats. Check out merkel whining like a sore loser

Fri, 05/09/2014 - 08:42 | 4742895 q99x2
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Fuck You Goldman Sachs

Fri, 05/09/2014 - 08:43 | 4742896 Sudden Debt
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Must be cool to see such a parade

Fri, 05/09/2014 - 08:58 | 4742937 BandGap
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I was thinking the same thing. Bet the crowds get pumped watching this hardware roll by.

Fri, 05/09/2014 - 09:38 | 4743035 Clever Name
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Because their sheep are the same as ours.

I found this funny:

This happened even as both Ukraine, Germany and the head of NATO all voiced strong objections to such a visit by Putin which not only formalizes the expansion, but spits in the eye of Western attempts to contain the Ukraine conflict and/or de-escalate

Who was voicing "stong objections" when Western diplomats were visting Kiev in the middle of the coup? Crickets?

Fri, 05/09/2014 - 10:29 | 4743234 lakecity55
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The hypocrisy is deafening, huh?

Fri, 05/09/2014 - 12:38 | 4743780 gcjohns1971
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The West doesn't believe in their politicians.

Elections are like a honeypot so you can find out who the sociopaths among you are.

Unfortunately, Russia is buying Putin's bullshit hook, line, and sinker.

 

They always did like a strong man.  That's what the whole 'Rurik the Viking' story is about.  Isn't it?

Fri, 05/09/2014 - 09:52 | 4743100 BlindMonkey
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Especially hardware that is paid for. The US gear is all bought on credit.

Fri, 05/09/2014 - 08:43 | 4742899 Snidley Whipsnae
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"This happened even as both Ukraine, Germany and the head of NATO all voiced strong objections to such a visit by Putin which not only formalizes the expansion, but spits in the eye of Western attempts to contain the Ukraine conflict and/or de-escalate:"

The West is trying to de-escalate conflict in the Ukraine?

Who coulda knowed?

Fri, 05/09/2014 - 09:18 | 4742989 Eyeroller
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According to CNBS, it DID escalate on Wednesday.  And the sheeple bought, bought, bought.

Fri, 05/09/2014 - 09:33 | 4743025 Cap Matifou
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Every attempt is made.

Evidence The Mainstream Media Won't Show You [WARNING: Disturbing Footage]

Videos and Photos of the Odessan Massacre, and Why It Was Done

I figure Russia will have a chat with the perps in the cheering crowd, wherever they hide on the planet.

Fri, 05/09/2014 - 11:16 | 4743437 BorisTheBlade
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The West seems to have no clue what it's doing, I haven't seen such a disconnect between words and actions for a long time, except maybe when Saddam was about to march his one-million strong army to crush the US. Paper tigers, NATO, US and Germany. None of those have anything to gain from meddling in Ukraine in the long run and the only reason this charade continues is those genuises need to figure a way out a way to save their pretty faces after such a disaster. Obama started to make Bush look good.

Fri, 05/09/2014 - 19:58 | 4745197 StychoKiller
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It's at times like these that I really miss "Baghdad Bob!"

Fri, 05/09/2014 - 08:43 | 4742902 Winston Churchill
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I piss in your borscht.

Fri, 05/09/2014 - 08:47 | 4742911 f16hoser
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Happy Holiday Russia. I too hate the NAZI's. Especially US /Bush family NAZI's!!!!!!!!! One day, we to will have a We Defeated NAZI's (again) Holiday!!!

 

Fri, 05/09/2014 - 08:56 | 4742930 GetZeeGold
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We got rid of Bush 5 years ago.....just thought I'd let you know.

 

Can't you feel the difference?

Fri, 05/09/2014 - 09:08 | 4742954 Dr. Engali
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Some people live in the past and fail to realize that we replaced a nazi dolt with a narcissistic marxist. 

Fri, 05/09/2014 - 10:07 | 4743150 chapaev's ghost
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MARXZIS !!!!!

Fri, 05/09/2014 - 12:08 | 4743678 JuliaS
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That's marxiss!

Fri, 05/09/2014 - 09:52 | 4743085 toady
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Which one? Note the comment said "Bush FAMILY". I believe the comment was pointed at the Bush that collaborated with the Nazis in WII. It may have been pointing at GHW for his piano wire work with the CIA, but it definitely wasn't a slight at W, the runt of the litter. Let's see what tricks Jeb has up his sleeve!

Fri, 05/09/2014 - 08:49 | 4742915 Billy Shears
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Crimea is more "Russian" than Puerto Rico is "American" or any part of the American Southwest for that matter, one could make the case.

Fri, 05/09/2014 - 08:53 | 4742925 LawsofPhysics
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Indeed, are the Russians interested in Puerto Rico?  Tell them they are getting a deal!

Fri, 05/09/2014 - 09:14 | 4742980 optimator
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But, please, make that deal retroactive.

Fri, 05/09/2014 - 09:01 | 4742944 Tsar Pointless
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To take it one step further and be brutally honest, Russia is more "Russian" than America is "American".

Manifest Destiny, hello!

Fri, 05/09/2014 - 09:43 | 4743052 Canucklehead
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To be brutally honest, there are historical reasons why no one but Russians stays in Russia, given the chance to leave. Sometimes the Russians will even punch your ticket to get you to go...

Fri, 05/09/2014 - 09:54 | 4743109 BlindMonkey
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If only we could do that in the US.

Fri, 05/09/2014 - 11:45 | 4743572 Anusocracy
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It needed to start about two hundred years ago.

Fri, 05/09/2014 - 09:04 | 4742948 shovelhead
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Well,

Somebody had to clean out all those Messicans who had the nerve to park on our United States.

We had to liberate the Indians from colonization.

Fri, 05/09/2014 - 12:34 | 4743758 gcjohns1971
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The southwest isn't that Mexican yet.

But the NorthEast Liberal Elite are doing everything they can in that direction!

Fri, 05/09/2014 - 09:04 | 4742929 Dr. Engali
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Somebody call  the PC police. I don't see any rainbow colors or gay pride balloons. Get Al Sharpton and his bullhorn over there to shake them down.... er.. I mean to raise awareness pronto.

Fri, 05/09/2014 - 09:01 | 4742942 Save_America1st
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In America, the so-called leaders call patriots "domestic terrorists".  That includes military veterans. 

just sayin'...

Fri, 05/09/2014 - 11:11 | 4743412 ThisIsBob
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George Washington and his pals were terrorists... until they won.

Fri, 05/09/2014 - 09:06 | 4742955 SilverIsMoney
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When the news is escalation the markets do nothing...

When the news is lies or spin about de-escalation the markets wildly swing the manipulators way...

Nothing to see here folks.

Fri, 05/09/2014 - 09:10 | 4742968 LawsofPhysics
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Where are these "markets" you speak of?  It's gambling now, pure and simple...

Fri, 05/09/2014 - 09:15 | 4742982 Save_America1st
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I'm sure he really meant "Casino"  ;-)

fuck the casino...it's all rigged in the "house's" favor.

Buy phyzz silver bullion instead...we've got the sale of the century in silver going on right now, folks!  Stack it high!!!

Fri, 05/09/2014 - 09:19 | 4742985 overmedicatedun...
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the NWO elite disaprove this type of nationalism, after all central banks have no such celebrations in fact they wish to be nameless..putin is like a powerful drug with many side effects and only needed when your life is at great risk, he will gladly hang the banksters, and they know it.

Fri, 05/09/2014 - 09:31 | 4743018 LawsofPhysics
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"he will gladly hang the banksters, and they know it." - optimist.

Fri, 05/09/2014 - 11:49 | 4743602 Anusocracy
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Ingroup-outgroup morality (nationalism) is what is preventing the establishment of worldism.

Fri, 05/09/2014 - 09:17 | 4742988 buzzsaw99
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they have tsar-bomba

we have owe-bomba

Fri, 05/09/2014 - 12:32 | 4743748 gcjohns1971
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Don't kid yourself.

Americans and EU also have nice toys.

But these are toys that ought not be used except for making soda-pop bottles and junked vehicles go 'BOOM!'

Fri, 05/09/2014 - 09:28 | 4743010 Marley
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"an impressive demonstration of military preparation"

What a joke you people are.

 

Fri, 05/09/2014 - 09:40 | 4743041 Canucklehead
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The political spectrum is a circle. Get too far left or right and you can't tell the difference between the two.

No one is arguing that Russia feels like it is being hunted. The snarl may scare away the little ones. It only signals weakness to the hunters. After this excercise, it will be hard for Putin to move.

I wonder how this parade promotes tourism in the Crimea or Sochi? Maybe that $50 Billion investment in Sochi wasn't such a good call. Who is going to pay for that?

Fri, 05/09/2014 - 09:59 | 4743126 BlindMonkey
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That circle analogy is bullshit. The only reason NAZIs are associated as far right is because that is what the commies called them. I can't see much daylight between fascist/corporatist/socialist/communist. Maybe the varying degrees of nationalism but that is going to be specific to the people involved.

Aristotle and Socrates broke it down correctly. There is the state and the individual. You can pepper the gumbo however you like but underneath those are the opposing forces.

Fri, 05/09/2014 - 11:45 | 4743581 Canucklehead
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In the real world, you can't get around having some state with your potatoes.  Voila, political spectrum... left wing, right wing... NAZIs and Communists.  They work together because they think alike.  Those called opportunists in the NAZI scenario are the same type of opportunists in the Communist scenario.  Both rely on the power of the state to force conformance to their dictates.

The world didn't work according to Aristotle and Socrates during their lifetimes.  They spoke about an ideal that didn't exist then... it doesn't exist now.  It won't exist in the future.

Fri, 05/09/2014 - 12:03 | 4743659 Anusocracy
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In every country there are hunter-gatherer cultural descendants mixed with descendants of the sedentary- pharaonic culture. Since hunter-gatherers evolved into the sedentists, they exist on a spectrum

That is the cause of the left-right political spectrum.

Fri, 05/09/2014 - 13:06 | 4743914 Canucklehead
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I'm glad you think that.

Our present left-right spectrum descended from the Great War.  After that debacle, vows were given by participants that the world would be made a better place.

The left-right construct is a simplification of political thought/action so "that" commodity can be monetized and used to sell soap to the masses.

The individual (Aristotle and Socrates) does not see the world in that construct.  It is all about personal decision-making... personal judgement, personal responsibility.  These personal values coalesce at some point on some shared value.  At that point, politics takes over.

The reason the USA leads the world is their system gives voice to personal values, and shows the changes in those values over time.  When things get out of hand, people coalesce and change things, usually at the local level.  The snowball has to start somewhere.

Fri, 05/09/2014 - 19:18 | 4745119 Anusocracy
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Political beliefs have a biological basis by way of morality.

Liberals emphasize harm, fairness, and liberty moral spheres.

Conservatives emphasize harm, fairness, authority, community, purity, and liberty.

Libertarians emphasize liberty above the others.

Acting on them defines their political ideologies.

Fri, 05/09/2014 - 13:00 | 4743874 BlindMonkey
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The world did and still does work how they observed it. Lots of people make the mistake of thinking they live in unique times. Yes there are differences but the nature of men hasn't changed. This is why the lessons of the bible have applied for all time.

Fri, 05/09/2014 - 13:13 | 4743949 gcjohns1971
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The political spectrum as defined by the 'Elite' is a single milimeter wide and leaves the vast, vast majority of voters totally unrepresented.

Fri, 05/09/2014 - 09:28 | 4743011 kurt
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Putin Spits in the Eye of USA and Nato while overseeing his new aquisition while engaged in massive military display after play acting nuke bombing.

This is agiprop... propaganda to agitate, irritate, evoke emotions, irrationality. Thus it is designed to incite you toward supporting actual war.

This is not the will of the people of the USA. Why do you try to make it so? 

 

Fri, 05/09/2014 - 09:56 | 4743115 intric8
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The strict definition of agitprop found itself active in jew dominated hollywood in the 1940's, to condition american public opinion towards a favorable opinion of communism.

Nowadays the term can be taken to its literal interpretion as you defined above, but quite frankly, fox news, msnbc other shill networks directly serving political groups engage in obvious agitprop. In both subtle expertise and blatency, u.s. network propaganda Probably makes the soviets look like rank amatuers.

Fri, 05/09/2014 - 11:06 | 4743389 ThisIsBob
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Putin is not spitting at anybody.  Its the USA pissing into the wind.

Fri, 05/09/2014 - 09:29 | 4743013 nah
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Russia wins cold war bitchez

Fri, 05/09/2014 - 09:32 | 4743023 IronShield
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This is incredible, this is outrageous, this goes beyond the pale...

Whoops, gotta go, commercial is over...

Fri, 05/09/2014 - 09:45 | 4743069 elwind45
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Thought it was already a part of Russia at least the people there act like it until the camera light comes on? Hey relax PUTIN HAS FAMILY IN THE REGION a lot of them in from the old country around ODESSA!

Fri, 05/09/2014 - 09:45 | 4743071 carlnpa
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Our crazy ass neocons would apparently like to first strike Russia.  Russia knows this, we all do.  The crazy neocons want Russia dead and stomped on.  They don't give a shit if all of us die in the process.  They have their hidey holes all lined up and ready to go

 

At what point does Russia say "we are dealing with a buch of crazy ass neocons" and preemptively strike first.

 

The US survivors need to make a pact with each other that if they survive they will drag the fucking neocons out of their hidey holes and try them for the war crimes and crimes against humanity they committed.

Fri, 05/09/2014 - 10:05 | 4743143 tsuki
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The problem with the neocons is that they have no skin in the game.  I think we should drag them out of their stink tanks now, suit them up and ship them out. 

Fri, 05/09/2014 - 10:28 | 4743223 intric8
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It depends what stripe of neocon we're talking about,, the (R) or (D) variety. The D's have more smart ass jews in the machinery (media support) and thus prefer to use their mouth's for longer periods of time, whereas the R variety prefers to come out guns blazing, less talk and more action, but they have the same world goal in mind, however more circuitous theyre respective routes may be, and theyre all slaves to the same master, make no mistake about it

Fri, 05/09/2014 - 09:55 | 4743111 NoWayJose
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Unfortunately, American high school students are unaware that Russia fought - and won - against Germany in WWII.  Most history teachers do not like to cover WWII or the Korean War, so they frequently skip over those sections or just run out of time at the end of the term -- after spending weeks on how bad slavery was.  If there is time at the end of the term, they jump right to Vietnam and teach the kids how bad that was too, and how Nixon was bad, and how Reagan was bad.

Fri, 05/09/2014 - 12:05 | 4743665 daedon
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The Russians were also left fighting the Ottoman empire by themselves in the 1870s when the English and the French bailed.  Will they ever learn ?  Maybe they have.

Fri, 05/09/2014 - 09:57 | 4743121 dogismycopilot
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It's quite amazing to think the Soviets had 20+ million people killed in WWII and the history books in the US told the world the that US soldiers beat the Nazis when in fact, the Bush family financed the Nazis.

70 years ago and here we are again except now it is the Americans who are funding Al Qaida in Syria, turning Libya into a Terrorist haven, shooting 90 year old grand mothers and hand cuffing 9 year old kids. Our police look like Nazis and we have a 'homeland' department which is a phrase coined by the 3rd Reich.

Really one has to ask, 'Is the American administration on the right side this time in history?'

Fri, 05/09/2014 - 13:01 | 4743744 JuliaS
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Russian forces were resoinsible for 90% of German personnel losses during the war. They were the ones who took over Berlin virtually unassisted. Russian flag went on top of the Reichstag building on the 2nd of May 1945 which symbolized the end of war for eveyone except the US, which poured an insane amount of money into the Manhattan Project, missing the window of opportunity by just 4 months.

So, for the US the war continued in the Pacific and resembled the standoff between itself and most of its current opponents. Iran has wants no nuclear weapons, Iran wants nuclear weapons, Saddam has no chemical weapons, Saddam has chemical weapons, Russia's not invading Ukraine, Russia's invading ukraine.

Got to remember that history back then was no different from history as it exists today. America needed the war to go on - to have itself making final a statement, instead of leaving leaving it as having been rescued form Nazi's by the Commies, so Japanese surrender was translated into English as "prepare for total anihilation". The negotiation resembled the exchange between Mr. Kinney and ED209 in Robocop.

Oh yeah, and 2 bombs had to be dropped, because you know, if you had a nuke dropped onto your civilians, one just wouldn't do it. One nuke? Pfft! Japan was throwing fists and everything: "We'll get every last one of you!", but 2 nukes and Japan went: "2 nukes are totally different! Hiroshima was no big deal, but Nagassaki! Man! That one really got us thinking. If you just dropped one bomb and ended at that we would have totally marched all the way to Washnigton. Good thinking there!"

The fact that B-29 was retrofitted to carry 2 types of payload and was doing practice runs as early as Novembet 1943 had nothing to do with it. The amount of uranium and enriched plutonium available from freshly constructed reactors also had nothing to do with the number of bombs. Nothing but coincidences all around.

Fri, 05/09/2014 - 13:07 | 4743920 gcjohns1971
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Julia,

You don't understand American psychology.

When Shane or John Wayne has the 'bad guy' cornered they do not let them walk away to fight again.  They have to come out grovelling on their bellies - or on their backs.   The psychology of all except the elite is not one of conquest for dominance. 

That is a psychology that only an elite few sociopaths have. 

The psychology - as even the brits remarked when dealing with the American Army in Iraq - was much less interested in implementing policy, and much more interested in eliminating threats - however wrongheaded they may have been about who was the threat.

The common psychology of the majority of Americans derives from the frontier history.  When a wolf is in the live stock you kill it.  You don't cage it.  You don't leave a trail of food to lead it elsewhere.  You don't scare it off, pound your chest, and hope it has the sense not to come back.  You don't care about whether the neighboring ranch might like wolves.   You don't worry about whether the rest of the pack might visit your homestead, because if they go, they were bound to go there anyway.  You kill the wolf. Dead. Completely. Its pack mates too, and 100% of your energy goes into that.

The tit-for-tat that Euro countries in close proximity to one another do is not in American psychology.  An overt military aggression will be seen as atttempted murder.  And only a fool allows someone who wants him dead to live.

I cannot emphasize enough how foolish it is for nuclear powers to contemplate a conventional war with one another. 

 

Fri, 05/09/2014 - 14:32 | 4744294 JuliaS
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I know what you're talking about. Those aspects of American psyche are well described and made fun of by comedians such as George Carlin and Bill Hicks. As for the British perspective - Robert Newman's my go-to person.

Easier to laugh about those matters, because otherwise the issues are just too depressing to contemplate.

Fri, 05/09/2014 - 10:23 | 4743217 lakecity55
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"I say, Cecil, these lads are quite Patriotic."

"Yes, Basil, they actually Believe in their country and its sacrifices."

"We need to find somebody dumb enough to fight them."

"Call that American company. It has guns for hire. I hear they shoot anything."

Fri, 05/09/2014 - 10:32 | 4743228 MillionDollarBoner_
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Please stop using that crappy map!

Novorossiya includes all of Moldova...as eny fule kno...

http://www.pri.org/stories/2014-04-18/why-do-so-many-places-ukraine-and-...

 

Fri, 05/09/2014 - 11:50 | 4743604 Reader1
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Regardless of how you feel about them today, you have to give them props for beating the Nazis. 

Fri, 05/09/2014 - 12:37 | 4743773 AdmTirpitz
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The pilot of the Enola Gay flying out of the shock wave on that August day

all the powers that be and the course of history would be changed forever more

Fri, 05/09/2014 - 13:36 | 4743959 MEAN BUSINESS
Fri, 05/09/2014 - 13:19 | 4743982 matrix2012
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2,000 Takfiri terrorist fighters being deployed from Syria into Kiev


A foreboding “urgent action bulletin” released by the Federal Security Services (FSB) states that President Putin this morning declared that a “State of Red War” now exists and has ordered an “immediate deployment” of the much feared and highly secretive Spetsgruppa A (Alpha Group) forces into Ukraine to counter the estimated 2,000 Takfiri terrorist fighters being deployed from Syria into Kiev by the Obama regime.

A “State of Red War” declaration means that a conflict within or outside of Russia’s borders endangers a “significant” number of Russian speaking peoples and could possibly soon escalate into a “State of Total War”, the latter which allows for the use of nuclear weapons and a full-scale deployment of military forces.

A large number of terrorist Takfiri fighters in Syria, who bear Saudi and Chechnian nationalities and receive financial and military backup from the Saudi intelligence agency, have been transferred to the Ukrainian capital, Kiev, on several planes to help the Ukrainian army in its fight against the pro-Russian population,” an Arab security official told FNA on Sunday on the condition of anonymity due to the secrecy of the issue.

“The forces have been immediately dispatched to Kramatorsk city in Eastern Ukraine, and are now fighting beside the Ukrainian army forces against the pro-Russians under the name of militias who support the government,” the source added.

The source explained that Saudi Arabia seeks to take revenge from Russia and pro-Russian people in Ukraine due to Moscow’s support for Syrian President Bashar al-Assad in the war on rebel groups."

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Fri, 05/09/2014 - 20:00 | 4745202 Herdee
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The Pip-Squeek from the State Department,neo-con and right wing nazi supporting Victoria Nuland protesting? "You can't do that,can you?" She was used by the CIA and now looks like an old stupid bitch without a stitch of knowledge of the Ukraine.Just a tired out old broad.What a disgrace to The United States of America.

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