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Ukraine Claims To Have Detained "Terrorists" With 100,000 Pre-Marked Referendum Ballots

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While the following YouTube clip is - in the eyes of the West - irrefutable proof of potential vote-rigging ahead of tomorrow's referendum, we find it somewhat intriguing that a group of heavily-armed "rebels", carrying boxes with 100,000 pre-marked 'positive' referendum ballots

 

...would be detained by Ukraine's anti-terrorist operations without firing one shot...

 

...still men laying down with bags on their head proves it... right?

 

 

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Sat, 05/10/2014 - 13:47 | 4746275 Belrev
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Ukraine's government and news media are even less believable than the Western ones.

Someone did a calculation, and determined that it was not possible to fit that many ballots into the car model that they were traveling in, let alone three guys besides the ballots in that car.

 

Sat, 05/10/2014 - 13:48 | 4746283 Mr. Delicious
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And even more controlled.

And yes, by Jews. 

 

Facts are stubborn things...

Sat, 05/10/2014 - 13:52 | 4746299 RafterManFMJ
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Mother never let me play with platic bags because if you put one over your head, you might 'suffercate.'  And yet these clowns expect us to believe this is real, as they have bagged these men with what would, in fact, be lethal confinement within 5 minutes?

Yea, right.

In other news, RafterMan's other leg was pulled.

Sat, 05/10/2014 - 14:10 | 4746354 Arius
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"terrorist" ... these must be "domestic terrorist" to be exact...

Sat, 05/10/2014 - 14:17 | 4746371 strannick
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Since when did this unelected regime care about the sanctity of elections?

Sat, 05/10/2014 - 14:22 | 4746384 CheapBastard
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That guy, second from the left, with the garbage bag on his head looks awfully familiar. Could you please put him in a line-up?

Sat, 05/10/2014 - 14:36 | 4746417 THX 1178
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Somebody somewhere knows that the post-election Nationalists will react badly if they lose. Did Russian intelligence stage this in order to justify a later false flag attack on Russia and blame it on UKR nationalists-- thereby jsutifying agression and invasion? Maybe... Maybe...

Sat, 05/10/2014 - 15:11 | 4746512 dogbreath
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Just another propaganda stunt by Kiev.   The local authorities in Donetsk didn't feel they needed to print ballots with a "NO" option.  This is obviously fake.

Sat, 05/10/2014 - 16:09 | 4746654 Gaius Frakkin' ...
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How nice of the FBI and CIA to print off some fake ballots for the Kiev fascists who have never held an election themselves. Still waiting for the FBI to investigate election fraud in the USSA, but that would probably be stepping on CIA toes.

Sat, 05/10/2014 - 16:23 | 4746693 0b1knob
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< Vote riggers were advised by the CIA.

< Vote riggers were advised by the Re-elect Obama campaign staff.

Since they got caught I'd have to say CIA.  The Obama people would have gotten away with it.

Sat, 05/10/2014 - 16:54 | 4746743 macholatte
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Could 100,000 ballots fit into that car with 3 guys and still be driveable?

 

A 500-sheet ream of 20-pound bond paper weighs 5 pounds.

http://home.howstuffworks.com/question329.htm

 

Assumption: 2 ballots per sheet of paper

100,000 ballots = 50,000 sheets =

100 reams = 2,000 lbs

 

Dimensions of 1 ream = 8.5 x 11 x 2

100 reams  = 8.5 x 11 x 200 =

18,700 cu in = 10.8 cu ft

 

 

 

 

 

Sat, 05/10/2014 - 19:58 | 4746991 Tabarnaque
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But, if it's on Youtube then it MUST be true! Ugly horse shoe face Kerry said it.

Sun, 05/11/2014 - 00:51 | 4747567 jeff montanye
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i liked the trick parrot better.

Sun, 05/11/2014 - 01:10 | 4747586 EscapingProgress
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Are these the same guys that were carrying around a Russian flag and handing out anti-semitic letters?

Sat, 05/10/2014 - 15:42 | 4746591 MarsInScorpio
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THX:

 

You are either a whack or a CIA/EU troll.

 

Which is it?

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Sat, 05/10/2014 - 16:25 | 4746596 MarsInScorpio
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Legacy Death Camp Guards (Nationalists) or Hitler's spawn (Nazis); two highly credible groups that you can trust . . .

 

Lying Mofos. Buthchers. War criminals . . . et al.

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Sat, 05/10/2014 - 16:38 | 4746724 loonyleft
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Somebody somewhere knows that the post-election Nationalists will react badly if they lose. Did Russian intelligence stage this in order to justify a later false flag attack on Russia and blame it on UKR nationalists-- thereby jsutifying agression and invasion? Maybe... Maybe...

I think you have watched the Princess Bride one too many times, or maybe read too much spy vs. spy. Time to put down your Mad magazine.

Sat, 05/10/2014 - 16:53 | 4746749 ebear
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Or did Kiev intelligence set this up to look like Russian intelligence staged this in order to justify a later false flag attack on Russia and blame it on UKR nationalists-- thereby jsutifying agression and invasion?

Or maybe Russian intelligence set this up to look like Kiev intelligence set this up to look like Russian intelligence staged this in order to justify a later false flag attack on Russia and blame it on UKR nationalists-- thereby jsutifying agression and invasion?

You see how I did that?

The clue to who's really responsible is in that picnic basket.   Until you open the basket, you can never really be sure.

Sun, 05/11/2014 - 00:54 | 4747571 jeff montanye
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i notice they panned past the revelatory sausage and cheese rather quickly.

Sat, 05/10/2014 - 14:21 | 4746383 crash commando
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People are stupid.  That's why your government needs to tell parents not to let their kids put bags on their heads.  Doing stupid stuff does not invalidate this photo.

Sat, 05/10/2014 - 21:26 | 4747161 palmereldritch
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 @RafterMan:

You're right. That appears to be an incredibly stagey tell ...and probably from the same fucking losers that previously brought us videos of alQ conducting the beheadings of westerners featuring terrorists wearing golden rings....

http://www.prisonplanet.com/Pages/130405_goldring.html

http://www.infowars.com/print/iraq/berg.htm

Sat, 05/10/2014 - 13:52 | 4746303 Vampyroteuthis ...
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Obammy must have advised them. He is an expert after the 2012 election on vote rigging.

Sat, 05/10/2014 - 14:01 | 4746332 Pure Evil
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Yep, the only difference between the US and the Ukraine is that the Diebold machine makes the decision for you.

The ballots they hand out in the US are the equivalent of coloring books where you get color between the lines.

Although, there's no need to connect any dots like events leading up to 9-11.

Sat, 05/10/2014 - 14:17 | 4746372 Harbanger
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US elections are the only rigged elections?

Sat, 05/10/2014 - 14:29 | 4746401 kaiserhoff
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Sounds like Florida, or Philadelphia, or Ohio. or any close election in the States.

Sat, 05/10/2014 - 14:48 | 4746453 Harbanger
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I wonder if voter ID is a problem for them, like is it is here for the Democrats.

Sat, 05/10/2014 - 16:16 | 4746676 Gaius Frakkin' ...
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There's more than one way to rig an election.

Sun, 05/11/2014 - 01:00 | 4747577 jeff montanye
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oldest one: promise this but do that

Sat, 05/10/2014 - 17:38 | 4746813 Mr. Delicious
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14 down votes because why?  The truth is "anti-Semitic"?   The oligarchs own just about all of the media in Ukraine, and most of them are Jewish - a group comprising 0.7% of their population.  Just because some Ukrainian neo-fascist said it, does not mean it is not true.

If those tv stations and news media were owned mainly by any other such minority, or by foreigners, that would be just fine to mention, right?

Do you ever ponder as to whether you've been brainwashed, not to avoid "hate," but to avoid appreciating the extent of this massive, massive concentration of power? 

Sat, 05/10/2014 - 19:24 | 4746935 ObamaDepression
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Its ironic you spew hate towards jews while calling others fascist.

Sat, 05/10/2014 - 23:24 | 4747466 bunnyswanson
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Maybe because 99% of the 1% are Jewish.

Sun, 05/11/2014 - 01:12 | 4747587 jeff montanye
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i doubt that is true (and the truth is not easily found) but the concentration in media, finance and government, especially the appointed positions of the last, is fairly breathtaking.  in many ways it is an amazing accomplishment but to pretend it doesn't exist isn't helpful to understanding the world, assuming one wants to.

Sat, 05/10/2014 - 23:04 | 4747427 MedTechEntrepreneur
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Brainwashed? Come fucking on.  ZH is not a dumb fuck MSNBC crowd. Fuck off.

Sat, 05/10/2014 - 13:48 | 4746285 chunga
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How can you tell them apart?

Sat, 05/10/2014 - 15:04 | 4746492 Ignatius
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Pre-marked ballots could easily be a psyop.

Smells of Al CIAda as much as anything else.

Sat, 05/10/2014 - 15:32 | 4746572 chunga
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It sure could be a psyop. To counter the propoganda from the West, the russians might consider having spetznaz capture a few Blackwater turds operating over there. Then again, we'd probably never hear about it here. The TV people are crazy...I'm so glad the leaves are growing in and rapidly blocking my OTA signal.

Sun, 05/11/2014 - 01:37 | 4747599 Lore
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You nailed it.  My neighbor and I were just joking about it yesterday afternoon: there's NO WAY the psychos would let this referendum proceed without at least some token attempt to disrupt / discredit it SOMEhow.  Sure enough, here we go. 

If those were real bad guys, their faces would be shown and they'd probably be shot.  If they were plants, the faces would stay covered and they'll disappear back into Kiev.  The eyes have it. 

Local authorities can probably distinguish legitimate ballots somehow.  These are probably crude copies, but even so, 100,000 probably wouldn't dent the outcome.

C'mon guys, come up with something original.  This is too... American.  (This is essentially what happened in an old episode of Battlestar Galactica.)

Sat, 05/10/2014 - 13:50 | 4746292 Harbanger
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I still believe the Obama election was rigged.

Sat, 05/10/2014 - 14:09 | 4746352 Quus Ant
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President McCain. 

What a lost opportunity.

Sat, 05/10/2014 - 14:19 | 4746377 Harbanger
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The big fear was Palin as VP, Not McCain.

Sat, 05/10/2014 - 14:24 | 4746390 Quus Ant
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I, for one, was never worried about John "bomb, bomb Iran" McCain.  He's a small, hairless, withered teddybear full of piss and vinegar.

Sat, 05/10/2014 - 14:25 | 4746394 Harbanger
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Really. I think he's a dangerous war monger like Barry.

Sat, 05/10/2014 - 14:29 | 4746402 Quus Ant
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So.... it was rigged and that mattered.... how? 

Sat, 05/10/2014 - 14:38 | 4746427 Harbanger
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It mattered to the liberal left in the US.  Because there was the possibility that a conservative might get the POTUS by mistake as McCAin is an old man.  The MSM reacted to Palin like the classic vampire to a cross.

Sat, 05/10/2014 - 14:52 | 4746459 Quus Ant
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Palin was not a savior.  She was a shitty politician.  A really shitty politician. With tits.

She didn't get a chance to gorge at the big trough.  c'est la vie.

Sat, 05/10/2014 - 14:56 | 4746474 Harbanger
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Of course not, but What difference does it make?  Still better than Hitlery or Warren.  If they're all the same to you.

Sat, 05/10/2014 - 15:13 | 4746515 Ignatius
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The Democraps and Rethuglicans are both enforcement arms of concentrated corporate interests.

They've stuck their collective noses into areas better left... a) alone, b) to states or c) to locals.

Federal government could be cut 90%, easy.

Sat, 05/10/2014 - 15:18 | 4746533 Fish Gone Bad
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One has to wonder at how people have come to be the people they are.  That said, McCain must have some interesting nightmares and Hillary Clinton has been of considerable service to this country.  It takes an experienced politician to run a country.  As much as people want to demonize the left or the right, politics make people do some rather unpleasant things.

Not trying to be anyone's friend here, just being observant.

FGB

Sat, 05/10/2014 - 15:35 | 4746577 chunga
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Can you please describe Hillary Clinton's "considerable service to this country"?

You've got to be kidding.

Sat, 05/10/2014 - 15:56 | 4746612 Fish Gone Bad
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First Lady.

Senator. 

Secretary of state. 

 

Sat, 05/10/2014 - 16:00 | 4746637 chunga
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Not to be garrulous, but for kicks, I threw "Hiilary Clinton Scandals" into a search box and come up with this result.

About 73,600,000 results (0.23 seconds)

Bill Clinton gets this - About 81,700,000 results (0.41 seconds) We must have different meanings for "considerable service", I suppose.
Sat, 05/10/2014 - 16:11 | 4746663 McMolotov
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Underboss, Caporegime, Consigliere...

Government is organized crime writ large.

"Government" and "service to this country" shouldn't even be in the same sentence — unless you were to say, "Let's abolish the government as a service to this country."

Sat, 05/10/2014 - 15:57 | 4746619 Harbanger
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Against the advice of the Feminazis, she showed character and stood by her cheating husband.  That's loyalty right there.

Sun, 05/11/2014 - 01:17 | 4747592 jeff montanye
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or something.

p.s. obama and romney or mccain or palin or bush2 or .... are nearly the same on all the things that really count to the owners.

the rest, the sex and the drugs and the music is just there to confuse the powerless and keep them cheering on opposite sides of the stadium.

Sun, 05/11/2014 - 03:43 | 4747644 Flybyknight
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I agree politics must be a terrible business to be in but surely one should look to ones conscience before making a descision and then allow the consequences to play out instead of being motivated by remaining in power regardless of morality. One always has the choice of making a moral descision.

Sat, 05/10/2014 - 14:52 | 4746460 Savyindallas
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wrong  -as bad as she would have been, Mccain is the worst. Obama is still far better than Mccain. Obama is a puppet. Mccain is a very dangerous madman. Even the elites in the shadow government are afraid of what he could do. I assure you if they ever did allow him to be President, he would have been closely watched and would not have access to the nuclear trigger or codes.  I think the eleites who run the show deliberately allow McCain to run around like a crazy madman just to put a scare in our enemies  -kind of like the crazy psycho Netanyahu.

Sat, 05/10/2014 - 15:16 | 4746525 SilverRhino
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John McCain is America's Vladimir Zhirinovsky

Sun, 05/11/2014 - 01:26 | 4747602 jeff montanye
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servant to the ruling party, check; ersatz populist, check; hardcore anti-zionist, whoa, well two of three.

 

Sat, 05/10/2014 - 15:26 | 4746556 Fish Gone Bad
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McCain has his issues, and he cetainly appears to be quite trigger happy, but a senator is not a president (until he is).  Do you remember Senator Obama shooting his fool mouth off about the debt ceiling?  Yeah, not like president Obama who wants to just keep raising it.  Presidents have a different job to do than senators.  If McCain were to be president, I am sure he too would do a fine enough job.  I am not trying to be anyone's friend here, just observant.

FGB

Sat, 05/10/2014 - 16:22 | 4746679 TheMeatTrapper
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FGB:

If you think Hillary Clinton has been "of service to this country" and that John McCain "would do a fine enough job" as President - you are either in the 8th grade (in a governmnet school) or you are the most gullible, statist apologist to post here since Million Dollar Bonus. 

Neither Hillary Clinton, Barack Obama nor John McCain have any respect for the Consitution. They ALL have taken a giant shit all over it - and any one who deos that is NOT doing the country a service - they are destroying the country. 

You need to get a fucking grip!

Sun, 05/11/2014 - 01:18 | 4747593 Overdrawn
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For the rest of the world the big fear was some crazy American being voted in as President and another as VP.   Unfortunately our fears have been realised.

Sat, 05/10/2014 - 14:46 | 4746448 Savyindallas
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Under "president Mccain" we wouldn't have a Ukraine or Putin crisis  - Russia would have been nuked several years ago. What a lost opportunity. I think we could have won that war with probably less than 100 million of our own casualties  - the rest of us would be vacationg in sunny South America for a few centuries waiting for radiation levels to stabilize.

Sat, 05/10/2014 - 15:42 | 4746593 Overfed
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You fergot yer /sarc tag.

Sat, 05/10/2014 - 13:51 | 4746296 SafelyGraze
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I recognize that video and those photos!

they are from an "end-of-course-testing" drill at my school

last week, our School Resource Officers ran a drill where they put bags over our heads, planted weapons on us, gave us boxes of fake end-of-course tests for our common-core requirements, and filled pressure cookers with ketchup

they said we were very lucky to have been selected for this drill because it had international implications

boy, were they ever right!

 

Sat, 05/10/2014 - 14:07 | 4746349 palmereldritch
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  ...aaaand scene.  OK Strike those sets.  Let’s hurry people we have the Pope Francis UFO-World Government greeting-walk-through next and the Kardashian Wedding Party at 3....

Sat, 05/10/2014 - 13:59 | 4746329 DonFromWyoming
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Not buying Belrev's report of calculation.  Do the math yourself.  The ballots look to be half of an 8.5 x 11 sheet of paper.  A 500 sheet ream of paper is 2 inches tall which equates to 1,000 ballots.  100 reams would fit into the trunk of that car, with maybe some overflow in the unoccupied half of the back set.  It would be heavy, but it would fit.

However, I would not discount the possibility that the CIA/Nazi regime in Kyiv staged the arrest to discredit the "referendum".

Sat, 05/10/2014 - 14:52 | 4746463 GooseShtepping Moron
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Let's assume your estimate of the size of the ballots is correct. In that case, the volume of 500 ballots equals [8.5 * (11/2) * 2] = 93.5 cubic inches.

To get the volume of 100,000 ballots, multiply the last result by 200. [200 * 93.5] = 18,700 cubic inches.

There are 12 * 12 * 12 or 1728 cubic inches in one cubic foot. The total volume of 100,000 ballots is therefore 18,700/1728 or approx. 10.8 cubic feet.

This amounts to the volume of a square-based cylinder almost exactly one meter on each side and one foot high. Shouldn't be a problem fitting that into a car.

My question is, Who counted them all? (sarc)

Sat, 05/10/2014 - 15:18 | 4746530 SilverRhino
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200 reams of paper fits into 20 boxes of paper.   Tight fit in a car with 3 guys but it can be done. 

 

Sat, 05/10/2014 - 16:39 | 4746725 g speed
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Belrev

40 box of 5 reams is not that much-- fits in my honda civic hatch--so, what are you really trying to say??--

Sat, 05/10/2014 - 13:46 | 4746276 economics9698
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Just like the USA!!!

Sat, 05/10/2014 - 13:48 | 4746280 Fish Gone Bad
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The hungry arresting the unemployed...

Sat, 05/10/2014 - 14:38 | 4746425 ebear
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At least they brought some lunch.

Sat, 05/10/2014 - 13:48 | 4746286 deflator
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 It really sucks to have your hands tied behind your back and the panic sets in when they tie a garbage bag over your head.

Sat, 05/10/2014 - 13:52 | 4746307 Quus Ant
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I think we attend very different parties.

Sat, 05/10/2014 - 13:54 | 4746311 deflator
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Wait what? You have never been to a torture party?

Sat, 05/10/2014 - 13:58 | 4746315 Quus Ant
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Yes, I've been to some torturous parties, but they usually end with me consoling some drunk guys girlfriend in the bathroom.

But you like them, eh?

Sat, 05/10/2014 - 14:01 | 4746331 deflator
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 Most people are smart enough to leave a bore such as myself off of their guest list.

Sat, 05/10/2014 - 14:03 | 4746336 Quus Ant
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Then this song was made for you: 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fp7Q1OAzITM

Get down and get groovy, deflator!  Don't just dream about being tied down and suffocated- get out there and make it happen.  Listen to the lyrics and let 'ol papa Gaye lead you to the promised land.

Sat, 05/10/2014 - 14:20 | 4746356 deflator
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When I was a kid we didn't have zipties but we did have duct tape, garbage bags and unusual sense of humor. Hardly anyone is interested in the details of, "that dying flutter".

Sat, 05/10/2014 - 14:34 | 4746410 TeamDepends
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Bro, let's party!  We could not be more thankful for being not invited to many functions which necessarily meant being packed shoulder to shoulder with egomaniacs.

Sat, 05/10/2014 - 14:43 | 4746440 deflator
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 Where everyone thinks you are boring if you are incapable of hanging on every predetermined by TPTB word that comes out of their mouth.

Sat, 05/10/2014 - 15:07 | 4746495 Fish Gone Bad
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Sorry to say, but you have it wrong.  Listeners are NEVER boring.  People who shoot their fool mouths off constantly are just insufferable.  Dale Carnegie was right.

Sat, 05/10/2014 - 14:28 | 4746399 slightlyskeptical
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Consoling girlfriends is great work if you can get it.

Sat, 05/10/2014 - 14:29 | 4746400 slightlyskeptical
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Consoling girlfriends is great work if you can get it.

Sat, 05/10/2014 - 15:52 | 4746485 Quus Ant
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I prefer consoling conjoined twins.

Sat, 05/10/2014 - 13:55 | 4746313 Quinvarius
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Just ask Ted Kennedy's prom date.

Sat, 05/10/2014 - 14:03 | 4746289 _ConanTheLibert...
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Pre-marked ballot papers kindly provided by the west.

Sat, 05/10/2014 - 14:03 | 4746335 Quinvarius
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If this works out as well as Fast and Furious, the Western backed Fascist Junta may have failed to stop 90% of their own fake ballots entering the election and working against them.

Sat, 05/10/2014 - 15:31 | 4746567 palmereldritch
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The car's Illinois plates were a give-away.

Sat, 05/10/2014 - 13:49 | 4746291 Mr. Delicious
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advocating democracy is now terrorism, terrorism  [in ukraine, syria, and by the state in pakistan, yemen, and elsewhere] is now freedom.

We have gone full Orwell, and to read The New York Times you'd never know it.

Sat, 05/10/2014 - 13:54 | 4746293 Belrev
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Let's just say - the net weight of 100 thousand sheets of A4 paper - about 500 kilograms. Even if we assume that the sheets used a smaller area , it is still unlikely the total weight of less than 400 kilograms.

Even more interesting is the question of volume -
Here are details of freight terminals
One pallet of A4 = 240 packs of 48 or boxes; weight of 600 kg; volume of 0.92 m2 (1 box = 5 reams of 500 sheets) Weight: 1 box = 12.5 kg; 1 pack = 2.5 kg

Assuming the sheets are smaller and they do not need to 240 packs of about 200 ( 500 sheets ), then still leave where - is the overall volume of 0.8 cubic meters or about 800 liters.
Tech specs of Daewoo Lanos
Cargo Volume, L 322 or 250 Trunk volume ( with folded back seats . ) , 958 or 886 l

That is physically fit bulletins can only become full and their trunk and rear seats .
But on the photo Explorer shows that detained at least 3 people.
One probably fled with guns near the Lanos , which is still at such an overload (500 kg of paper and two forehead front) certainly constantly clings potholes exhaust pipe ) .

In general , it seems fake . Something stupid , it was necessary to at least the number of ballots carried halve .

Sat, 05/10/2014 - 15:03 | 4746489 GooseShtepping Moron
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I agree with you that it's fake. In fact, I'm positive that it's fake. It's a bunch of BS Ukrainian junior varsity propaganda. I just don't think calculations like this are the right way to prove it. We were not there; we don't have all the details; we could easily be overlooking something that would make the Ukrainian story "believable" from a strictly physico-mathematical standpoint.

I'm content with resting my case on the fact that the pro-Russian side is guaranteed overwhelming electoral victory anyway, and hence would have no need for ballot-stuffing.

Sat, 05/10/2014 - 13:51 | 4746297 SpanishGoop
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100.000 on 1.7 million.

Or are there more "terrorists" on the way.

 

Sat, 05/10/2014 - 13:52 | 4746298 fonzannoon
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53k of the 100k were for Obama

Sat, 05/10/2014 - 14:00 | 4746330 SharkBit
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Can we get the same IMPEACH OBOZO turn out.

Sat, 05/10/2014 - 13:52 | 4746300 Bernoulli
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That youtube video proves everything. Now I changed my mind.

Sat, 05/10/2014 - 13:52 | 4746301 Quinvarius
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They are Kinkos employees hired by Ukraine's junta who screwed up the job and marked the wrong boxes.  They will be "made perfect" after a stint in room 101.

Sat, 05/10/2014 - 15:57 | 4746623 kurt
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Nudleman came up with the idea last night when she was ramming her huge strap-on into Yat's caboose.

"no... don't... stop... no don't... no! Don't Stop!"

Sat, 05/10/2014 - 13:52 | 4746302 Peanut Butter E...
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This could very likely be CIA paid performers who dress up like terrorist and carry boxes of pre filled ballots. They need to show faces of these men in garbage bags and check their bank accounts for any unknown sources of income, also check their backgrounds.

Sat, 05/10/2014 - 14:04 | 4746338 _ConanTheLibert...
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CIA Terrrist Division

Sat, 05/10/2014 - 14:39 | 4746429 palmereldritch
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I liked the picnic basket.  I thought that was a nice touch.

Sat, 05/10/2014 - 15:08 | 4746496 ebear
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Stolen from Yellenstone Park, no doubt.  Can't trust these Russian bears.

Sat, 05/10/2014 - 15:24 | 4746550 palmereldritch
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An oversight that was definitely a Booboo

Sat, 05/10/2014 - 13:53 | 4746308 Caviar Emptor
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Standard fascist practice. I staged my own death twice over the past few years to further my career as an international intelligence coordination technologist. Re-married too.

Sat, 05/10/2014 - 13:54 | 4746309 williambanzai7
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Chad-skis

Sat, 05/10/2014 - 14:06 | 4746343 Pure Evil
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That's sooooooo 2000.

Sat, 05/10/2014 - 14:14 | 4746366 ronron
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hanging chad skis

Sat, 05/10/2014 - 15:09 | 4746502 ebear
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In Russia, chads hang you!

Sat, 05/10/2014 - 15:26 | 4746555 falak pema
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In Chad, you hang white russians, its that bad and so so sad.

So...Where is Chad? Its in Africa ! 

All we  need is for Nuland to move Chad to Donetsk. and hey presto ! We can hang those peski Ruskis ! 

Sat, 05/10/2014 - 13:56 | 4746314 Miss Expectations
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Long Crisis Acting Schools.

Sat, 05/10/2014 - 13:58 | 4746325 Quinvarius
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How do we know this was not part of the early voting program?  These may be valid ballots.  Probably not. 

Sat, 05/10/2014 - 13:58 | 4746327 SharkBit
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CIA doing what it does best.  So 1980s.

Sat, 05/10/2014 - 14:05 | 4746337 navy62802
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Those ballots don't look pre-marked.

Sat, 05/10/2014 - 14:07 | 4746348 Pure Evil
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Did they count all of them?

Maybe there's a few unmarked after the top 15 or so.

Sat, 05/10/2014 - 14:32 | 4746406 slightlyskeptical
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More like post-marked.

Sat, 05/10/2014 - 14:07 | 4746345 Kaiser Sousa
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and 19 hijackers who couldnt fly commercial airliners some of whom r still living flew them into 2 world trade center towers and collapsed THREE of them....

yeah, ok...

Sat, 05/10/2014 - 14:16 | 4746369 kchrisc
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Never mind the near impossible descending high-speed 270 degree turn at the Pentagon instead of using the direct path the plane was coming in on.

For some, 911 was an abject failure of government. For those that know better, 911 was a monumental success of government.”

Sat, 05/10/2014 - 14:41 | 4746435 Savyindallas
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you mean the "shadow" Gubbermint - the one with the real powr.

Sat, 05/10/2014 - 15:28 | 4746560 GooseShtepping Moron
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"For some, 911 was an abject failure of government. For those that know better, 911 was a monumental success of government.”

This statement is the exact opposite of the truth. There is plenty of blame to be laid at the government's doorstep without applying a paranoid and oppressivist hermeneutic to the events of 9/11. Yes, the 19 hijackers really did do exactly what the "official story" claims them to have done: they hijacked the planes and flew them into the buildings. And they did so without the US government's knowledge or consent. And the World Trade Center towers (including Building 7) collapsed from the impact of the planes and/or secondary fires and seismic disturbances, not from explosive charges set off in a controlled demolition.

The government's culpability only becomes a factor when we begin to consider that 9/11 came about as a result of multiple intelligence operations souring, and the intelligence community's inability to either control the situation or fess up to it. The CIA opened Pandora's box in Afghanistan, an we paid for it.

Sat, 05/10/2014 - 15:33 | 4746574 FredFlintstone
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Your moniker is apropos.

Sat, 05/10/2014 - 18:55 | 4746682 Seek_Truth
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Goose, you really need an education on 9/11:

http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/sociopolitica/esp_sociopol_911_107.htm

Coincidence upon coincidence? I think not.

Sat, 05/10/2014 - 14:39 | 4746430 Savyindallas
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And Mohammed Atta (or his Mossad double) was hanging out partying with jack Abrams just weeks before.Kind of Like Jack Ruby hanging out with Lee harvey Oswald and the CIA Camp Street spooks in New orleans.

Sat, 05/10/2014 - 14:08 | 4746350 kchrisc
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As long as it wasn't cookies.

Sat, 05/10/2014 - 14:21 | 4746382 TheFourthStooge-ing
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When you want to toss cookies, think Nuland.

Sat, 05/10/2014 - 14:08 | 4746351 BaghdadBob
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Bullshit.

Sat, 05/10/2014 - 14:10 | 4746355 One And Only
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Why does that guy have a bag over his ass? Obama hiding in there?

Sat, 05/10/2014 - 14:12 | 4746362 franciscopendergrass
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Who wrote the script for this one?  The same people that provided the WMD in Iraq and the chemical weapons attack in Syria?

Sat, 05/10/2014 - 14:25 | 4746391 Volkodav
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Kyiv birth certificate specialists

Sat, 05/10/2014 - 14:14 | 4746365 Smegley Wanxalot
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The credits at the end say:

. . . . . Production Crew, CIA

. . . . . . . . . . Written by: Victoria Nuland and John Kerry

. . . . . . . . . . Directed by:  Barack Obama and Van Rumpoy

Sat, 05/10/2014 - 14:15 | 4746368 John McCloy
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Do they really think anyone falls for this garbage anymore?
If it's on MSNBC and CNN Monday we know it it is a staged event.
The CIA probably got their hands on a sample and forged these...as a matter of fact I'm 99% certain that is the case.
We all know we excel at counterfeiting here in the U.S. Especially anything of paper origin...this was a layup for MI6 and Langley.

Sat, 05/10/2014 - 14:24 | 4746388 Volkodav
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eight year kid with computer could do that...

there was on video about the referendums showing ballots..enough to easy imitate...

Sat, 05/10/2014 - 15:17 | 4746526 bag holder
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I think Al CIAduh forgot to go on Youtube, 'cause these ballots look nothing like the ones I saw yesterday. These ones: http://news.bbcimg.co.uk/media/images/74757000/jpg/_74757242_022182051-1...

Sat, 05/10/2014 - 15:22 | 4746545 ebear
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"there was on video about the referendums showing ballots..enough to easy imitate..."

1. show sample ballots in video.

2. change ballot format to prevent fraud.

3. release final ballot design only on election day.

or

1. ballots to be marked only with stamp provided at polling station.  

2. Each station has own stamp - stamps kept secret until election day.

or

1. each station assigned a random number on election day

2. only ballots marked with that number are valid.

 

Finally, ballots to be counted only by certified independent observers.

 

Seriously, how difficult is this?

 


Sat, 05/10/2014 - 14:35 | 4746413 kchrisc
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Even the sheeple in my life are starting to tire of all the lies. For them it just creates unease, while for me it's just additional motivation to stack more and clean my arsenal.

And Sandy Hoax and Boston Boom are proving to be instrumental in my quest to wake, or at least stir, people awake.

People especially respond to C(IA)NN having pre-queued up old video from a neighboring school's "live-shooter exercise" during a "live" broadcast from Sandy Hook--"If it was 'live' and unplanned, how did they have footage from a neighboring school queued up, or, at least, why did they use footage from the other school and call it Sandy Hook?!" Oh why indeed and the many webs...?!

 

"My guillotine says, 'Remember, remember, the 14th. of December'."

Sat, 05/10/2014 - 14:35 | 4746415 Savyindallas
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Oh I don't know abou that  -the Niger Uranium forgeries and Obama's hawaiian Birth Certificate were pretty bad.

Sat, 05/10/2014 - 14:17 | 4746373 One And Only
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Probably same guys that were in Philadelphia during the last US election cycle where Obama got 110% of the vote. Travel expense probably paid out of the IRS budget.

Sat, 05/10/2014 - 14:20 | 4746379 Volkodav
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uh, I don't see any mark on those ballot paper.

Sat, 05/10/2014 - 14:38 | 4746423 Hurdy Gurdy Man
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:19

 

Sat, 05/10/2014 - 14:29 | 4746398 Son of Captain Nemo
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Think it might be safe to say at this point that the Emperor of "America" (forget the United States) doesn't want this referendum shit going down!...

Any Congressional voices in opposition to starting WWIII?!!!...  Anybody?...  Anyone?...

Sat, 05/10/2014 - 14:31 | 4746405 Uncle Remus
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Black bag job - musta lost something in translation.

Sat, 05/10/2014 - 14:34 | 4746412 Barry McBear
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Using paper?  How stoneage.  Should have taken a queue from the U.S. and contracted Diebold to rig the election with their voting machines.

 

https://archive.org/details/Hacking_Democracy

Sat, 05/10/2014 - 17:01 | 4746421 ThisIsBob
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How hard is it to mark up a bunch of ballots before you snap a picture of them? 

Nobody is going to respect that election anyway, dismissing it an unduly influenced, etc., etc., blah, blah, blah. (Said the Secretary of State on cue.)

Often when I try to figure out the why of US actions, one of the options which frequently presents itself is:  D) Just plain stupidity.  Seldom, however, does that occur in my thinking about Russia.

"Never attribute to conspiracy that which can be adequately explained by stupidity."

 

 

Sat, 05/10/2014 - 14:39 | 4746426 BigRedRider
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"heavily-armed "rebels", carrying boxes with 100,000 pre-marked 'positive' referendum ballots" This stunt is straight out of the Democrats Book of Dirty Tricks. Harry Reid should be so proud of them.

Sat, 05/10/2014 - 14:56 | 4746473 BullyBearish
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Obama's job was to break health care...Hillary's will be to break 401ks/IRAs

Sat, 05/10/2014 - 15:03 | 4746487 withglee
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Since when do you put "plastic bags" over people's heads (notice the one yet unfolded on the right leg of the guy in the middle). Wouldn't this cause suffication in pretty short order?

Sat, 05/10/2014 - 15:23 | 4746544 Bernoulli
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Over the last weeks, German, Austrian and Swiss internet editions of newspapers NZZ, Spiegel, FAZ, and many others are very much anti-Russian and "pro-interim-government". Today for example, there are lots of articles how the planned referendum is illegal, how it is a "farce", how Turtschinov "warns" and will never negotiate with "terrorists" or how Merkel and Hollande are threatening Russia, etc.

At the same time, however, a majority of forum commentators are quite fiercly opposed to what the articles state.

It could be that people are starting to wake up in the german speaking part of Western Europe....

Sat, 05/10/2014 - 15:57 | 4746628 Emergency Ward
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I'm sure these vote-stealing terrorists are exactly the same ones that will be caught bombing the Ukrainian Baby Milk Factory tomorrow.  News at ten on CNN.

Bullish on Hefty garbage bags.

Sat, 05/10/2014 - 15:59 | 4746630 TNTARG
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My God.

What an unbearable circus.

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