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Ukraine Scrambles Fighter Jets, Intercepts Airplane Carrying Russian Deputy Premier

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A few short hours ago, a Russian delegation which contained the deputy premier of Russia Dmitry Rogozin was flying back from Moldova's capital Chisinau following his visit to Tiraspol as part of May 9 celebrations, when Ukraine scrambled fighter jets to intercept the Yak-42 carrying the Russian vice premier and forced it to promptly land back in Moldova.

The reason why this is surprising is that Rogozin was well aware in advance of taking off that Ukraine had closed its airspace to the Russian delegation.

But the punchline is that while Rogozin managed to fly into Moldova over Romanian airspace, on his return the EU and NATO member country served him with a surprise - it followed in Ukraine's footsteps and blocked off its airspace to the Russian Deputy PM as well.



So suddenly Rogozin found himself unable to access the airspace of either Ukraine or Romania. Which is a problem, because as the map below shows, Moldova has a contiguous border with just these two countries, and in effect if both neighbors block their airspace to Russians in the country, there is no way to depart.


So what does Rogozin do? Precisely what the outspoken member of the US counter-Russia sanctions list would be expected to do:


Sadly for him, it did not work out quite as expected:


Here is a map showing the moment when the Russian Yak was met by Ukraine Migs:


This is how the Moldovan website Actualiti described the incident:

Aircraft of Vice Premier of the Russian Federation Dmitry Rogozin was intercepted by a Ukrainian MiG after he entered the airspace of Ukraine, reports

Earlier, the Deputy Prime Minister said that he would still fly to Moscow via Ukraine.


"I am taking off despite the ban," - wrote Rogozin in social networks.


Rogozin flew on board the Yak -42 (aka RUS-Jet) from Chisinau airport. recalls that Ukraine refused to allow its airspace to Russian officials. To Dmitry Rogozin, May 8 was in Tiraspol, the board was forced to fly through Bulgaria and Romania.

The Vice PM was not the only one who was forced to return. According to, Ukraine also intercepted the flight of the Russian culture minister Vladimir Medinsky.

Ukrainian authorities have blocked and did not allow passage through its airspace the plane on which was the Russian delegation headed by the Minister of Culture of Russia Vladimir Medinsky which was returning from Chisinau to Moscow, according to the minister's Twitter account.


"Our aircraft with the Russian delegation was ordered to return to Chisinau , threatened by a forced landing in Ukraine " - said Medinsky.


The minister said that Ukraine previously allowed overflights . In Bawtry is on the State Duma delegation includes , Ministry of Foreign Affairs and the Government.

However, before Ukraine pats itself on the back for its success in keeping the Russians landlocked, Rogozin sent out the following tweet supposedly next to Moscow's airport Domodedovo, where he praised the efficiency of the Russian "Military-Industrial commission" in finding alternative paths:

Of course, had this little incident escalated and the Russian's plane had been shot down, something tells us those who were furiously selling VIX on Friday afternoon to paint the tape with a record Dow Jones high, would be in a bit of a pickle coming Monday.

Still, while this incident was contained, the big one remains: tomorrow's referendum which is still going ahead as planned and following which it is only a matter of time before East Ukraine, now independent, requests Russian "peacekeepers" to enter the country and, well, keep the peace.


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Sat, 05/10/2014 - 10:36 | 4745944 smacker
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I can't see why the Russian plane couldn't have flown out over the Black Sea and headed to Russia from there.

Sat, 05/10/2014 - 10:41 | 4745955 y3maxx
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...After tomorrow's vote....President HalfrObama, Kerry et al will be eating "Crow".

Sat, 05/10/2014 - 10:52 | 4745961 strannick
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Ukraine violating international law to try and provoke Russia. Not surprizing as it is a CIA installed, unelected regime, according to Nuland. These guys are all she could get for 5 billion?

Meanwhile the western press calls arson murders accidental fires, and publishes bogus anti-semetic letters attributed to Russian seperatists.

"They hate us for our freedom"

Orwell   +100


Sat, 05/10/2014 - 10:53 | 4745979 Oh regional Indian
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Some damn rookie (Yeah right!) will pull a trigger and things can rapidly spiral south.

Also, no dearth of martyrs available to both sides....

Plus, there is always freaking twitter to stoke the flames....

When Ukraine does a Twitter block, all bets are off...

If Russia hacks Ukrain's twitterati, game over.



Sat, 05/10/2014 - 10:56 | 4745984 svayambhu108
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Who wants that badly to start WW3 ? Qui bono?

Sat, 05/10/2014 - 11:03 | 4745994 THX 1178
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Who would be hung in the streets after the world economy implodes? Who wants to flip the chessboard? Who I ask you?

Sat, 05/10/2014 - 11:13 | 4746008 Oh regional Indian
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Tell us THX, who? 


Dalal Streeters? DaWall streeters? The K Streeters? 

No one needs to die actually if we all just calmed down and took a little step back from the machine....

Some peace, some balance, some healing, some grand gestures and time....all can be good.


Sat, 05/10/2014 - 11:17 | 4746018 Save_America1st
Save_America1st's picture only gets "real" when a government scum or one of their own gets captured.  Then all of a sudden war starts to matter a little more to the sociopath fucks who start it!

Sat, 05/10/2014 - 11:47 | 4746082 Manthong
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< 5 sec.

It's the reaction we are trying to elicit.

Sat, 05/10/2014 - 12:20 | 4746132 mjcOH1
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"I can't see why the Russian plane couldn't have flown out over the Black Sea and headed to Russia from there."

I can't see why the Ukranians didn't splash Putin's plane when he flew into Crimea. The writing's on the wall....they're just trying desperately not to look.  Smoke 'em while you got 'em.

Sat, 05/10/2014 - 13:10 | 4746212 MarsInScorpio
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And what if the Russians decide to provide a military escort for the YAK-42? Let's see - modern Russian MiGs versus ancient Russian MiGs - guess who wins?


The Kiev junta is made up of insane Nazis and Nationalists who apparently believe NATO will save their war criminal ass.


The truth is that the Russians are acting responsibly, and the Kiev Butchers are doing all they can to start a hot war.


Yulia and Yats are guilty of crimes against humanity – as are Nuland, Obama, Brenner, and the rest of the Kiev enablers.


Too bad the West has no humanity left in it.



Sat, 05/10/2014 - 13:30 | 4746245 mjcOH1
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Kiev Butchers are doing all they can to start a hot war."

The "Kiev Butchers" seem to be showing remarkable restraint after 70 years if Soviet rule, a Russian genocide/starvation pogram, and open attempts to at best partition their country and at worst turn it into the next Chechnya/"greater Russian" state.

The Russians are NOT the party showing restraint here. The Ukranians are. Not that it will do them any good. And they will regret that choice of restraint.

Sat, 05/10/2014 - 14:05 | 4746340 TheFourthStooge-ing
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seem to be showing remarkable restraint after 70 years if Soviet rule,

Soviet Union dissolved decades ago. If you still conflate Russia and the USSR, you are either still controlled by anti-Soviet propaganda or you are a shill.

a Russian genocide/starvation pogram,

Nice way to bend history to fit it to your narrative. I presume you are referring to the holodomor, carried out by the Bolsheviks. How is it the work of Russians when, after Lenin's death, a Russian didn't lead the Soviet Union until 1982? How is it the work of Russians when the holodomor starved Ukrainians, Russians, and Kazakhs? Will you next be telling us that Hitler killed only Jews?

As usual, too much to correct, as the comment embraces fantasy in every sentence.

Sun, 05/11/2014 - 09:01 | 4747828 Sean7k
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1920 to 1990 equals seventy years by my math. While the holodomar was carried out by bolshevik JEWS (not bolsheviks plain), they were in Russia and in control of the Soviet government. Parsing words to create an argument is propaganda. The Ukrainians were starved by Stalin. The name calling (shill, anti soviet propaganda) is another nice touch, but rather heavy handed.

There are no good guys here. The Russians are attempting to seize territory with the use of a planted population (USSR population transfers after WWII). No one is freeing Cheknya. The real losers are the Ukrainian people, caught in a vice for the purpose of beating war drums for mass human consumption. 

Putin is a tyrant, just as they all are. Defending Russia here is propaganda,plain and simple. Seems to be the norm lately. If you really want to help out here, stop supporting your governments, because this wouldn't be happening without them- all of them.

Sat, 05/10/2014 - 14:52 | 4746465 MarsInScorpio
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More frrom the EU/CIA troll . ..


Sat, 05/10/2014 - 21:46 | 4747237 StychoKiller
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Kinda stoopid to rattle a rusty scabbard with no saber in it, dontcha think?

Sat, 05/10/2014 - 14:15 | 4746370 Lost Word
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Ukraine MiGs versus modern Russian MiGs ?

Might depend upon whether Ukraine MiGs have modern radars and air to air missiles.

Ukraine builds their own ground to air defense missiles.

Sat, 05/10/2014 - 14:55 | 4746470 MarsInScorpio
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1) They don't.


2) So?


Russia v. Ukraine - care to give me a wager?


Sat, 05/10/2014 - 20:44 | 4747057 Patriot Eke
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Uhm, you mean Ukranian MiGs verses Russian Flankers, right?  The Russians wouldn't be using MiGs...

Sat, 05/10/2014 - 14:38 | 4746424 Hydesrevenge
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Moldova is still land locked and would have to violate airspace by flying over to the Black Sea.

Sat, 05/10/2014 - 12:00 | 4746099 Headbanger
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Hey look.. There's a town named "Bender" in Moldova!

I bet the Chinese or Syrians flew them back to Moscow and the Russian plane has been re-registered as Chinese


Sat, 05/10/2014 - 16:59 | 4746760 MillionDollarBoner_
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Bite my shiny metal ass there is!

Sat, 05/10/2014 - 21:48 | 4747247 StychoKiller
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Bite my splintery, wooden @ss!

Sun, 05/11/2014 - 00:14 | 4747521 medium giraffe
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Look at this country! ? U R Gay!? Ha ha!

Sat, 05/10/2014 - 11:19 | 4746023 THX 1178
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Yes. All of them. I don't want it to happen, but some do.

Sat, 05/10/2014 - 11:33 | 4746050 Herd Redirectio...
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In theory, this can all be solved with a lengthy Truth and Reconciliation trial and hearings.

Lengthy, being the key word.

Sat, 05/10/2014 - 12:20 | 4746136 The Blank Stare
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And some free gas

Sat, 05/10/2014 - 12:34 | 4746162 Oh regional Indian
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3 years of free 3 gallons per adult a week would be the end of all strife. Imagine if the entire world's military budget went to paying the entire world's oil bill...


Last night I had, the stragest dream, I ever dreamed before.... I dreamed the world had all agreed, to put an end to warrrrr....

We can dream....



Sat, 05/10/2014 - 21:42 | 4747226 StychoKiller
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You need to read the Mahabarhata and see what Krishna told Arjuna before the great battle, when Arjuna did not want to fight his countrymen and family

Sun, 05/11/2014 - 09:14 | 4747842 Oh regional Indian
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Yep Stycho. Been hearing that one since childhood.

But I will not be fooled anymore.

Our great tales are all stories with an intended control stance. Each and every one of them.

The Gita was a late insertion to give what was a gory, in-excusable battle some ideological and philosophical patina.

The essence is in the Vedanta.


Sat, 05/10/2014 - 11:06 | 4745999 TahoeBilly2012
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Just annex Odessa...problem solved, plenty of airspace.

Sat, 05/10/2014 - 11:17 | 4746017 chemystical
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"Who wants that badly to start WW3 ? Qui bono?"

Satan and his synagogue.

"I'll continue with the 'fish in a barrel' category for$200 Alex."

Revelation 3:9

"Behold, I will make them of the synagogue of Satan, which say they are Jews, and are not, but do lie; behold, I will make them to come and worship before thy feet, and to know that I have loved thee."

John probably didn't envision those who are Jews and know the false Jews but support them anyway because of the extreme benefits.


Sat, 05/10/2014 - 11:35 | 4746056 Herd Redirectio...
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Yep, I wish there were more 'self-hating' types out there, willing to expose the criminality of their supposed 'brothers', who are merely Machiavellian sociopaths.


Sat, 05/10/2014 - 13:16 | 4746221 Seek_Truth
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chemystical, that's hitting the nail right on the head. Amazing how many still don't want to see that that scripture and much of Revelation has been and is being fullfilled.

Sat, 05/10/2014 - 14:22 | 4746385 Lost Word
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I have written previously, about Revelation, prophecy already much fulfilled, including,

Revelation chapter 11 prophesied the 9-11 destruction of the NYC WTC Twin Towers.

I first wrote this in emails to the National News Media in October 2001.

Of course, my emails were ignored.

Sat, 05/10/2014 - 15:22 | 4746543 Seek_Truth
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The key to understanding Revelation 11:4 is Revelation 1:20.

In short, the Two Witnesses are The Holy Spirit and The Church (the people, not the buildings or denominations).

Now that we're clear on that, you might realize why there is no correlation to the two towers and 9/11.

Sat, 05/10/2014 - 16:14 | 4746665 Lost Word
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Two witnesses can mean different things in different verses or contexts.

The Beasts of Revelation are not all the same.

The evidence of my interpretation is much longer than the above short comment,

too long for me to write about here and now.

There is a reason why the Government has been spying on me since 1995,

when I wrote something short in a private letter to a famous person, partially about my interpretation of Nostradamus,

but that again is too long to explain.

Nostradamus, a Christian from a Jewish family, was looking into the future for the Messiah,

probably inspired by reading the Book of Revelation.

Sat, 05/10/2014 - 17:02 | 4746761 Seek_Truth
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Indeed- there are 2 beasts- 1 out of the sea and 1 out of the land.  And they are not the same. Those who refer to "The Beast" and conflate the two and the anti Christs, and the Man of Sin (2 Thessalonians 2:1-12) are mislead by sloppy interpretation. Each of those are seperate, not the same entity.

Interpretation belongs to God-the Bible is interpreted by the Holy Spirit. And yes, by two or three witnesses every matter shall be established  (2 Corinthians 13:1; Matthew 18:6; Deuteronomy 19:15). When it comes to interpreting scripture, those witnesses are the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit. In other words, to correctly interpret prophecy, one or more related verses give clues to the interpretation. 

Using anything of Nostradamus to interpret Revelation is where the wheels come off.


Sat, 05/10/2014 - 17:57 | 4746795 Lost Word
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Clues in different verses might not be related.

Presumably the Holy Spirit will guide to the truth,

but since Scripture warns the Church of False prophets, presumably some or even many people in the Church will be deceived by False prophets.

There is no certainty that the most popular interpretation is the correct interpretation.

Was John of Patmos the last person to be inspired by the Holy Spirit?

Perhaps Nostradamus was inspired by the Holy Spirit.

Nostradamus certainly seemed to be inspired by the Book of Revelation

to write his own prophecies.

Considering that Biblical prophecy is often symbolic, and not exactly literal,

Nostradamus also wrote prophecy with symbolism, not intending it to be taken exactly literal.

If Nostradamus is able to be interpreted correctly, a logical case can be made that Nostradamus truly was able to see the future, and write about it in his prophecy. Similar case with John of Patmos.

Most of the interpreters of Nostradamus understand it is symbolic, they just disagree on the meaning of the symbolism. Similar with Biblical symbolic prophecy interpretation. Church scholars disagree among themselves. I have read many of the various opinions.

However, Nostradamus did not explicitly interpret Revelation, therefore Nostradamus is not used to interpret Revelation, but the general context of Revelation is implied in some of his writings.

Was Martin Luther or Hal Lindsey or any other Churchman wrong to interpret Revelation?

Perhaps I am inspired by the Holy Spirit, similar to John of Patmos.

Sat, 05/10/2014 - 18:10 | 4746855 Seek_Truth
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My point is to not accept what any other human has interpreted, because, for the most part, those interpretations conflict with other Biblical passages.

Best to ignore Hal Lindsey, Martin Luther, etc, and conduct your own research, using the Bible, Holy Spirit, and compare to history and current events.

The key is to know that the Bible is the source, both for prophecy and interpretation. If any interpretation conflict with even a single verse in the Bible, the interpretation is flawed.


Sat, 05/10/2014 - 19:11 | 4746909 chemystical
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My take on the possibilities is that Nostradamus - and other modern prophets who might stumble onto the truth - are not necessarily seeing the future and instead might be seeing the past. 

"How so?" you say?  Passage of time is a complex of meandering flows.  Moments when your 'present' crosses a 'past' might account for deja vu.  Reincarnations.  Spirits stuck in a time loop.  Numerous anomalous time phenomena have been noted.

Modern cosmological physics even has a hand in it.  When the Universe reaches maximum expansion there are many well-accepted theories that it will collapse, and there are also many well-accepted theories that processes will then run in reverse.  Therorists don't have agreement as to exactly what reverse means but the math tells them that it will occur.

Consider the conundrum that the Universe contains stars that are older than itself.  One explanation rectifying this is that the Universe has already started collapsing (along with the ensuing reversal of procesess) but not uniformly.  The basis for those stellar age determinations requires the assumption that there has not yet been a collapse.  'Localized collapses' rather than 'uniform collapse' explains away the conundrum.  (Consider also that the collapses needn't be solely in the three known physical dimensions.  Einstein would happily agree with that).

Back to your religious curiousity.  The 3 children of the Fatima miracle were witnessed running backwards and talking gibberish.  Considering that the virgin Mary supposedly told them (showed them?) the circumstances of the world's end, the gibberish might have been the children speaking backwards (as in a process in reverse).  Millions of people worldwide saw 2 Suns in the sky.  That is an astronomical and historical fact.  No explanations though.  If 2 times briefly overlapped, then it's easy to conceive that two positions of the Sun likewise were experienced simultaneously. 

Back to Russia: One of the things Mary told the Fatima children was of the importance of Russia returning to the church and how that was a harbinger of the end of this world and the return of Christ. 

Because you've expressed an interest in the Bible, you might take a gander at these essays.

Have a blessed day ;)

Sat, 05/10/2014 - 15:31 | 4746569 BeansMcGreens
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2 Thessalonians 2:11 NIV

For this reason God sends them a powerful delusion so that they will believe the lie,


This is part of the scripture dealing with the anti-christ.  The delusion is seen daily especially in the US. Who can explain it, much less deny it?

Sat, 05/10/2014 - 15:51 | 4746604 Seek_Truth
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“The” Anti Christ is often poorly interpreted. The phrase only occurs 4 times in the Bible, and it is very clear contextually that is referring to a type of person, not one person:

2 John 1:7 - For many deceivers are entered into the world, who confess not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh. This is a deceiver and an antichrist.

1 John 2:18 - Little children, it is the last time: and as ye have heard that antichrist shall come, even now are there many antichrists; whereby we know that it is the last time.

1 John 2:22 - Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son.

1 John 4:3 - And every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God: and this is that [spirit] of antichrist, whereof ye have heard that it should come; and even now already is it in the world.

Those who sloppily conflate the anti Christ with the beast, the man of lawlessness, the son of perdition (2 Thessalonians 2:1-12), etc- have no Biblical basis for doing so.

Plain and simple- The Anti Christ are all people who deny the Father and/or the Son, and/or deny that Christ came in the flesh.


Sat, 05/10/2014 - 17:14 | 4746784 BeansMcGreens
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You are correct about the usage of the word Anti-christ being found only in  First John. That said, anti-christ is a generic term used to describe the son of perdition, probably taken from Daniel and his describing of the future rise of Antichous, and an example of the rise of the son of perdition as described by John in Revelation, the man that not only denies Christ, but makes himself god.

One thing is certain, the son of perdition (one person) can not be Born Again, while the antichrist (the many people) of First John can if they only repent.

Now back to the origonal thought of this thread on the Synagogue of satan, can you explain the delusional mind set of this present generation? Just what is the motive of shear insanity for wanting war where nuclear weapons could come into play?

Sun, 05/11/2014 - 00:16 | 4746836 Seek_Truth
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anti-christ is a generic term used to describe the son of perdition, probably taken from Daniel …”


Now really think about that.  There is absolutely zero proof for that statement, which is why “probably” and its cousin, “generic” are inserted. There is no Biblical evidence to assume that there is ONE anti Christ (there are billions) and then conflate that with the son of perdition, who is surely ONE of the anti Christs.  Neither is there any proof that the Man of Perdition is ONE person- anyone familiar with interpreting prophecy would understand that figures such as Anti Christ, Man of Perdition, Beast out of the Sea, Beast out of the Land, Image of the Beast, Two Witnesses, Seven Congregations, Seas, Lamps, Images, etc- are representative, prophetic language to be fulfilled not by Single persons, but Attitudes, Governments, Populations, etc. This is as clear in Daniel and Revelation as in the Gospels.

“Now back to the origonal thought of this thread on the Synagogue of satan, can you explain the delusional mind set of this present generation? Just what is the motive of shear insanity for wanting war where nuclear weapons could come into play?”

In brief- all of these things have been foretold- see 2 Timothy 3:1-9; Matthew 24; Daniel 9-12; 2 Peter 3, Revelation, for example.

The insanity comes from Satan, and his Synagogue, and the desire for “wealth”- Mammon worship.

IF you had already read the Scriptures with the Holy spirit guiding you?

PS- " All Scripture is breathed out by God and profitable for teaching, for reproof, for correction, and for training in righteousness, that the man of God may be complete, equipped for every good work. - 2 Timothy 3:16,17


Sat, 05/10/2014 - 14:17 | 4746367 MeMongo
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"who wants to start wwIII"

My guess is NOT the Amish!

The list most likely reads much more like a bar mitzvah invite "{)

Sat, 05/10/2014 - 11:03 | 4745995 DeadFred
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Twitter Wars Are Terrible

Sat, 05/10/2014 - 13:35 | 4746256 CheapBastard
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I'm anxiously waiting Jason Beeper's Tweet on the matters at hand.

Sat, 05/10/2014 - 13:54 | 4746312 sushi
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What concerns me is when we go to DEFCON 5 and entire nations start getting unfriended on FB.


Sat, 05/10/2014 - 22:01 | 4747284 StychoKiller
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Readiness condition Exercise term Description Readiness Color DEFCON 1 COCKED PISTOL Nuclear war is imminent Maximum readiness      White DEFCON 2 FAST PACE Next step to nuclear war Armed Forces ready to deploy and engage in less than 6 hours      Red DEFCON 3 ROUND HOUSE Increase in force readiness above that required for normal readiness Air Force ready to mobilize in 15 minutes      Yellow DEFCON 4 DOUBLE TAKE Increased intelligence watch and strengthened security measures Above normal readiness      Green DEFCON 5 FADE OUT Lowest state of readiness Normal readiness      Blue
Sat, 05/10/2014 - 11:04 | 4745997 nmewn
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"Plus, there is always freaking twitter to stoke the flames...."

Yes, this hashtag diplomacy/activism thingy is getting a little out of control...moral preening without the all exertion of any moral action.

Forward Comrades!...I'll be the first to pierce their breast with my tweet! And if my battery dies in the process, know that it died while I fumbled around looking for my charger!

Sat, 05/10/2014 - 11:09 | 4746005 Oh regional Indian
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The mid-tweet putsch battery failure death on an iphone.....epic Nm.....funny stuff there!

Sat, 05/10/2014 - 11:22 | 4746030 McMolotov
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We few, we happy few, we band of tweeters;
For he to-day that drains his battery
Shall be my bitch, yo; be he ne’er so vile,
This day shall gentle his condition;

And fuckers in D.C. now-a-bed
Shall think themselves accurs’d they were not here,
And hold their iPhones cheap whiles any speaks
That twat with us upon Saint Nuland’s day.

Sat, 05/10/2014 - 11:30 | 4746041 mjcOH1
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"The mid-tweet putsch battery failure death on an iphone.....epic Nm.....funny stuff there!"

Four bars....four kingdom for four bars.....

Sat, 05/10/2014 - 12:12 | 4746125 Bananamerican
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"I regret that I have but one Instagram account to give to my country....I should have sock-puppeted another!"

Sat, 05/10/2014 - 14:19 | 4746376 CheapBastard
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Will China miss this chance to move on those Diaoyu islands in the East China Sea?

... or move move rigs into the South China sea?

Sat, 05/10/2014 - 14:27 | 4746396 Lost Word
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What ever happened to the conspiracy theory that a Chinese submarine torpedo

started the recent Gulf of Mexico drilling rig oil leak disaster ?

Sat, 05/10/2014 - 16:02 | 4746639 knukles
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That was not theory, conspiracy or otherwise.  It was actually a North Korean 2 man mini spy sub which had transited underneath the Antarctic to wreak havoc in the Homeland.
That was proven by the message that Matt Simmons left in Magic Marker on the bottom of the hot tub in which he was murdered in Texas before his body was transported to Massachusetts to be found as far away from the rice balls he was going to donate to poor underfed North Korean urchins working for pennies a day as slaves drawing, by hand, $100 bills.

Now, the most relevant part of the new information set is is even somewhat more disconcerting, and that is that We Must Ask Why, if the NSA et al are spying actively upon anybody but domestic non-threatening citizenry why the fuck none of this was foreseen?

Makes one almost wonder if Opie&Cie are not foreign agents at best and the Anti-Christ as a most likely scenario, because it's all clearly headed for the shitter.
And nobody cares whatsofuckingever, other than a wholesale robbing of the populace to accumulate as much temporal comfort as possible just before the end.

Jump you fuckers

Sat, 05/10/2014 - 12:11 | 4746122 No Quarter
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Twatterati-  fixed it for ya.

Sat, 05/10/2014 - 10:56 | 4745983 ebworthen
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The neo-Nazi putsch in Kiev and the West will lose this one.

They do not understand what they are attempting.

Dumb and Dumber.

Sat, 05/10/2014 - 11:03 | 4745992 McMolotov
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It's hubris on an epic scale. They keep biting off more than they can chew, and they'll end up choking on it.

The problem, though, is when they barf up a war, we'll all get covered in it, too.

Sat, 05/10/2014 - 11:33 | 4746048 GVB
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As a reminder ... last 4 seconds say more than one can imagine

Sat, 05/10/2014 - 13:00 | 4746192 Jack Burton
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I've mentioned before in posts that when Russia began to deploy their new S-400 mobile anti aircraft missile system across the Russian Federation as the new primary air defense weapon, and at the same time, the new missile for TOR-M2U became operational, Mr. Putin and Russia in general made a phase shift in it's attitude towards NATO threats and CIA pressure against Russian interests. Syria being the first case in which Putin swithed from backing down to standing up. It obviously gives Putin confidence, when the USA is operating near his borders, to know that he now has an air defense network that is world class. In fact, had S-400 not proven to be as good as it is, then Putin would not dare defy NATO in the manner he now does. This is my opinion, I could be wrong, but the timing makes be suspect that Russia believes it now can defend Russian air space. And that matters greatly in the game NATO is playing.

Sat, 05/10/2014 - 15:21 | 4746538 BlindMonkey
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I am wondering how good the S-400 is vs that air to ground UFO that tore up the town in afganistian. Assuming that it is real of course.

Sat, 05/10/2014 - 17:30 | 4746807 MillionDollarBoner_
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Sun, 05/11/2014 - 00:19 | 4747525 The Chief
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One thing that Putin has that these neocon fuckers don't is a STEADY HAND. Hold fast, Vlad. Wait 'em out.

They can't wait much longer. They'll make the deperate move. They can't believe that murdering (martyring) 100 innocent civilians didnt get Vlad to act. They are scratching their nappy heads and wondering how Putin has been able to hold out without stomping someone's guts out. It's got to be driving them insane! The image I conjure is Nuland as the Grinch, puzzling and puzzling and wondering why the Whos are happily singing down in the Who-ville after she stole all of their packages, boxes and bags.

All I know is this: When they finally force him to act, it wont go according to their plan. While Nudleman and her SS henchmen are seemingly safe in their underground lair plotting the death of a nation and the murder of its people, a most cunning adversary works to extinguish the hellfire that they have unleashed.

God's speed, Vlad. God's speed.


Sat, 05/10/2014 - 11:26 | 4746034 fxrxexexdxoxmx
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All people who dislike Putin are Nazis.

Sat, 05/10/2014 - 11:34 | 4746052 Sean7k
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LOL. Especially as it is putin that is using Nazi arguments to buttress his claims to "defend Russians". More irony? It was the bolshevok jews that Hitler was fighting against, warned the west about and then we allowed them to takeover Europe and the US. 

It was the world zionist congress that declared war on Germany in 1933. It was the bolshevik jews that perpetrated the worst holocaust in history- in Russia. It was the jews that fabricated their holocaust and continue to jam it down our throats today. Hitler was right: remove the jews from all positions of leadership in business and government and your country will prosper. 

Hitler was elected by national referendum. How does the Kiev putsch compare? The rulers in kiev are not neo nazis, they are neo bolshevik jews.

Sat, 05/10/2014 - 11:45 | 4746083 Theta_Burn
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You do realize that this post won't be all that popular right?

Hey down voters, you want even more irony? Its all true...

Sat, 05/10/2014 - 11:49 | 4746090 Sean7k
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Never really cared about being "popular". But, hey, where else can you write the real history?

Sat, 05/10/2014 - 12:01 | 4746109 Theta_Burn
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A history that goes back many centuries...

Sat, 05/10/2014 - 12:06 | 4746120 BigJim
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I normally enjoy your posts Sean but Hitler was 'elected' by national referendum? He was appointed Chancellor by Hindenburg in 1932; all the elections after that were heavily manipulated by the Nazis... though they might very well have won them anyway, seeing as they enjoyed widespread popularity in Germany (and Austria) at the time.

As for the Jews that 'fabricated' the holocaust - it may well be that fewer than 6 million were killed, but there were simply too many witnesses who attested to the death camps for it to have been 'fabricated'.

Though I'm pretty f*cking tired of being hit over the head with it, I notice particularly when Israel does something outrageous, we have another flurry of 'holocaust' related films and books to remind us all what victims Jews are/have been/will always be, and how we mustn't criticise Zionists when they oppress other people, because that would be 'anti-Semitic'... even if the people they're oppressing are, ironically, ethnically rather more Semitic than they are.

Sat, 05/10/2014 - 14:09 | 4746257 Sean7k
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Hitler's party won a majoity in the elections and was appointed Chancellor ( like in most european elections today) , he additionally won referendums starting in 1934. We may contest the results (pressure, etc) but are ANY elections different? Anywhere? You really think US elections are without taint? Hell, ours stink up the place.

As for the "holocaust", there were too many witnesses which were silenced. Please refer to, "Witness for History" by Michael Walsh- the pdf's are easily available- the book is not- funny how that works. While there were jews killed, they are no where near the number fabricated by the jews- which were paid reparations by Germany based on the numbers. The crematoriums were used because of typhus, caused by Allied bombing of plants connected to the worker camps. Typhus that killed hundreds of thousands of germans in British and American prisoner camps as well. While there were german atrocities, they pale in comparison to British, US and Russian actions during the war. A reading of "Hitler's War" by David Irving will cure you of the brainwashing.

You might want to read up on the executions of German leaders after Nuremberg, to see how jews treat their enemies. Hangings engineered by jews to last up to twenty minutes of excruciating pain, conducted on a jewish holiday, by a jewish US sargent. 

Hitler was no prize, don't get me wrong, but he was right about jewish influence in national affairs. We have been force fed half of the story- the story they want you to believe.


Sat, 05/10/2014 - 16:53 | 4746751 HardAssets
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@BigJim - a reasonable statement on this issue. How refreshing. Thank you.


Washington & Jefferson warned about getting involved in entangling foreign alliances & minding our own damned business.  America should have followed their advice. Then a lot if issues today would be moot - - - as far as the American people are concerned.  Others can work out their own problems, we have enough on our plate as it is.

Sat, 05/10/2014 - 13:00 | 4746195 lakecity55
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"Hitler was right: remove the jews from all positions of leadership in business and government and your country will prosper."

Correct-- but the addled headed asshole let hate get in the way. First he starts a war then exterminates all kinds of people. All he had to do was remove Khazar-types/Zionists, wait for the country to improve, then everyone would follow.

I think certain Zionists may have secretly backed him. His hatred and hubris was indeed his undoing.

You can cry "anti-semite" all day, but it does not change Fact. These types of Jews killed Christ, and they have acted like termites in every country they have inhabited.

You cannot look at the dual PP holders in the USG, the news media ownership or the filth spewed forth from their "hollywood" properties and not see there is a problem.

Sat, 05/10/2014 - 13:26 | 4746234 ObamaDepression
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Fuck you, you nazi pig.

Jew hate is for intellectual retards

Sat, 05/10/2014 - 13:49 | 4746288 Schaublin
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Although that charming comment was not directed at me, I would like to comment on the concept of "Jew hate".

Recognising that Jewry has always and everywhere been a malign influence on European people is easy but  history shows that violent reaction to Jewry is never successful - the violence simply shifts the problem to another area and in fact, strengthens the Jews' hatred of Europeans and reenforces their own perceived victim status.

The Jew could not thrive within European society if people simply refrained from usury and lived wholesome lives. There is no need to hate the Jew - simply recognise them for what they are and avoid them as one does any unwholesome thing.

Sat, 05/10/2014 - 13:57 | 4746319 Sean7k
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Sat, 05/10/2014 - 14:02 | 4746326 Seek_Truth
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Would that be jews descended from Jacob, son of Isaac, 5% of the world's "jewish" population?

Or are you referring to the 95% of the world's "jewish" population that are Askenazi and are not descended from Jacob son of Isaac?

What, then, is "Jew hate"?

What about all the jews that don't support Zionism?

Are they "Jew haters" too?

Sure would be interesting to determine what % of Zionists are Ashkenazi.

Sat, 05/10/2014 - 14:39 | 4746420 Lost Word
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Hatred against Jewish people,

Jewish as a religion,

a Talmudic religion,

as compared to Jewish as a racial ethnicity,

the small percentage which are Sephardim.

Sat, 05/10/2014 - 15:15 | 4746522 Seek_Truth
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"a Talmudic religion,"

Indeed it is these days- modern day 'judaism" is indeed talmudic- based on traditions of men, and modern day "Israelis", only 5% who are Israeli by blood.

Contrast that with ancient Biblical Israel, which followed the Mosaic Law Covenant- based on Laws of God (not talmudic traditions), and were descendants of Jacob (Israel), son of Isaac.

See the deception?

Jesus, in addressing the talmudic jews of his day:

"You have let go of the commands of God and are holding on to human traditions." - Mark 7:8

"Thus you nullify the word of God by your tradition that you have handed down. And you do many things like that." -Mark 7:13

And Jesus' revelation to John:

"I will make those who are of the synagogue of Satan, who claim to be Jews though they are not, but are liars--I will make them come and fall down at your feet and acknowledge that I have loved you." -Revelation 3:9 

Do you see the deception now?


Sun, 05/11/2014 - 10:09 | 4746277 Sean7k
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Hitler had a war to gear up for, one against the bolshevik jews. He tried in vain to keep the US out, the British on peaceful terms, but he failed to realize just how much control the zionists had in both country's leadership. Left alone, he would have created a national socialist europe (how is that different from now?) without jewish influence and destroyed the fledgling USSR, putting the Khazar/zionists in Siberia to remain marginalized. The british forced his hand and the US, as britain's attack dog, waded in. 

Think of how history might have been re-written? 

Hitler believed in a Germany in the mold of Frederick the Great and a Europe for europeans. Not much different than any other conquering king from europe's past. However, we are presented a much different picture and it purposefully excludes the atrocities of the Allies. You could ask George Patton- O wait, they killed him before he could release any truths. 

Sat, 05/10/2014 - 13:11 | 4746216 Schaublin
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Correct but the forbidden truth of which you speak is kryptonite to the current world view model of 99 percent of US and Eu sheeple.

Sat, 05/10/2014 - 13:51 | 4746287 gdogus erectus
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"It was the bolshevok jews that Hitler was fighting against, warned the west about and then we allowed them to takeover Europe and the US. "

You left out one very important part: Hitler was put in place by these same Rothschild backed bankers to create the holocaust. In fact, Hitler's grandmother worked for Baron Rothschild and bore an illegitimate child with him named Alois Shicklgruber who later changed his name to Hitler. This is a common tactic of the elite. They like to use their own blood as their controlled opposition.

Sat, 05/10/2014 - 14:18 | 4746374 Jack Burton
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Sean. Much of what you say about the time of the USSR and who manufactured this totalitarian disaster are true. All ethnic groups suffered under the Soviets. But in pure numbers, it was nationaistic Russians who were killed by the millions by Stalin, a born and raised ethnic Georgian, and his many henchmen, security services and secret police were ruled by a series of Non-Russians from teh Caucuses regions. Beria being most famous, but there were others that preceeded and folloed him. Soviet leadership had plenty of Ukrainians, Khruschev being the most famous, and the one who handed Russian Crimea to Ukraine as a gift. Breshnev was another.

During the famous famine in Ukraine, and it was Russia wide, not just in the Ukrainian Soviet Republic, of the 1930's was a result of collectivization of agriculture by the communists under Stalins orders. The Ukrainian Khruschev made himself famous for his brutality on his home soil during this period, his tool to do the ditry work of stealing food and killing pesants was carried out largely by leadership of Communist Urban Jews of Ukraine. Sorry, but history is clear on this.

Few ethnic Russian held supreme Soviet Power, Molitov was a Russian who Stalin kept around as a token Russian, as all his circle was non-Russian. The only really popular Russian to rise in Soviet ranks, in Lenningrad, was Kirov. A rising star in the Lenningrad party, his ethnic Russian background made him a danger to the Georgian leader Stalin, and thus he had Kirov murdered to end any ethinc Russian threat to Stalins group from the Caucuses.

Today, NATO has tapped in to a centuries old right wing West Ukrainian anti Russin ethnic group, this goes back many centuries, as is confined to West Ukraine, that is why the East is in open rebellion, they will not accept another foreign rule of their lands. The US and NATO want Ukraine as their base from which to attack Russia, this is key to NATO march to the East, this is also why Russia is pushing back, and why East Ukrainians will fight the alien fascists from the West, America's pet nazi thugs, paid for by Washington and soon to be armed by the CIA.

A bloodbath is coming. Washington thinks it will be a another shock and awe cake walk massacre. They are wrong, this time Washigtons allies will taste the sword, just as they like to hand it out. A fair fight is coming, something NATO has never even though possible, the East is not going to give up.

Sat, 05/10/2014 - 15:38 | 4746443 Sean7k
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Unfortunately Jack,

I disagree. This whole game is just that. The putins and obamas and merkels are puppets on a string. You cannot create wars in times of peace. Therefore, you continue to work the gears of division and hate so when they are needed, they can be easily exploited. The world military industrial complex and totalitarian state fed by debt slavery and mass ignorance will continue to manufacture death and destruction. Destruction that must be replaced with our labor and wealth. 

We all go along, we all sing the patriotic songs and recite our pledges. We all project our national or regional pride in parades. We vote for paper cutouts and complain about everyone else's cutout. We send our children to schools which specialize in turning out compliant workers. We use debt for money. In the US, we ignore the Constitution and let a court of paid rhetoriticians tell us what is law.

It is all too easy to get caught up in the tragedy and desperation of people, people manipulated for perverse goals and pleasures. It is in refusing to take part, refusing to honor law, refusing to vote, refusing to be their slave by every means possible that we can light a path to liberty. People are stumbling in the darkness, listening to voices, voices controlled by a compliant media. Voices that lie and preach evil with the quicksilver tongue of a satan. Someone must be a light piercing the darkness. 

Someone must be a clarion call which The People can rally to. I sit at my farm in peace, peace with my neighbors, my family and my friends. Peace with the land and the water and my crops. We can all be at peace in our homes, but first we must resist the evil that desperately seeks to infiltrate our every waking moment. 

Sat, 05/10/2014 - 16:44 | 4746733 general ambivalent
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Remember that immediately after Odessa the media tried to write it as an ethnic conflict within the city (just as in the Balkans, which it was not). Anyone who pays attention knows what happened in Odessa, mercenaries from various stripes were sent in to stir the pot, kill some people, and advance the fictitious money and foreign military encirclement. Same as it was in the Balkans. NATO plays the dirtiest tricks and the whole ethnic melting pot, while to an extent real, is built up within the larger divide and conquer strategy.

You are correct I think, many seeds are sowed during peace knowing they shall be reaped during the war.

Sat, 05/10/2014 - 20:47 | 4747067 Patriot Eke
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That's the goal.  Every empire dies, and when has one died peacefully?

Sat, 05/10/2014 - 12:02 | 4746110 TheReplacement
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While seemingly aburd, restricting their airspace is not illegal.  If you want to be taken seriously don't make stuff up or engage in hyperbole.  Another truth is that the government in power now was elected, just not to all of the offices currently held.  Suppose two branches of the US gov. were acting very badly and the third acted to remove them from power and initiate new elections with the evident support of the majority of the people, at least in the half of the country where the capital was located.  While this may not be constitutional it also isn't the same as a military coup.  The outside backing (on both sides) is not a matter being addressed in this argument.  If you were to say that outside backing makes a group or individual's stance on the subject irrelevant then probably less than 25% of Ukraine's population would be eligible.

Both the West and Russia are playing a game.  Both of their partisans in Ukraine are playing their parts for their own reasons.  I'm not saying it's right but I am saying that there are virtually no good guys here, just a lot of wolves.  All of the sheep aren't even interested since they are busy with their igadgets and look like a barbie doll surgeries.

Sat, 05/10/2014 - 12:20 | 4746138 Bananamerican
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Almost bought it Replacement- until I remembered to look at the BigMapCreepingEast..........>
and the BigCrapHappninInTheWest <............

Sat, 05/10/2014 - 15:03 | 4746418 chemystical
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"While seemingly aburd, restricting their airspace is not illegal. If you want to be taken seriously don't make stuff up or engage in hyperbole"

..and if you want to be taken seriously you cannot omit the fact that the UKR government PERMITTED the plane and its passengers to cross their airspace en route to Moldova.  Then they changed their minds about the return trip? 

It doesn't require much of a stretch to term that a de facto false imprisonment or hijacking by other means.  By your same reasoning ROM and UKR could also refuse those Russians ANY sort of passage back to Russia.  UKR & ROM (and their stringholders in the West) might just as well beg Russia to peel off some of the coastline to ensure the Moldovans have ufettered access to the world outside their borders.

"is not illegal."  By whose definition??   I'll hazard the guess that your expertise in international law is as limited as is mine, and I'll further hazard a guess that UKR and ROM are both signators to international treaties that prohibit what they did. 


Sat, 05/10/2014 - 12:33 | 4746161 Kaiser Sousa
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man u got downed 9 fucking times...

more and more morons gathering here on the Z...


Sat, 05/10/2014 - 13:00 | 4746193 kchrisc
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$5bil. and some cookies.

Sat, 05/10/2014 - 13:02 | 4746200 Jorgen
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Orwell   +100

You are too modest. It's Orwell +10^oo

Sat, 05/10/2014 - 13:24 | 4746229 ObamaDepression
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Yeah, funny how Ukranians are a bit sensitive after Russia invaded the Crimea.

Shocking right?

Sat, 05/10/2014 - 20:49 | 4747076 Patriot Eke
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The Russians didn't invade it, jackass.  Pull your head out of your ass before posting here.

Sun, 05/11/2014 - 09:19 | 4747846 Sean7k
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Yeah! It was those russian separatists using russian naval vessels that blockaded the Ukranians. Are you terminaly stupid? Are you completely ignorant of modern state methodlogies for infiltration and warfare by proxy?

Sat, 05/10/2014 - 16:45 | 4746731 HardAssets
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Since he's gonna now have to fly around those borders and go the long way - - - that Russkie is really gonna be stacking up the mileage points !  


Free trip to Vegas is definitely in the cards, maybe even to Hawaii  

Sun, 05/11/2014 - 01:56 | 4747622 rvborgh
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Can someone point me to some proof that the US actually spent 5 billion supporting Maidan?  i have watched the video of Nuland speaking of 5 billion however that is 5 billion spent on foreign aid over 20+ years... which isn't all that much per year in the grand scheme of things for a country with the population of the size of Ukraine.  Of that 5 billion 1.8 billion was disbursed through US AID... once again over 20 years.

i would also be curious why if Yanukovych knew the US was undermining his government in such a way... why he wouldn't have shut the US AID organization in Ukraine down?


Sat, 05/10/2014 - 11:36 | 4746060 CrashisOptimistic
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How is that referendum vote being funded?

Sat, 05/10/2014 - 13:50 | 4746295 Eyeroller
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Teflon Barry is desperately hoping those poor Nigerian girls can be rescued.

If so, expect him to call a press conference and bask in the glory, while the lap dog press ignores Ukraine.

It's all he's got, but with the press on your side, just might be enough to deflect attention from his atrocious foreign policy (i.e. talk about red lines then do nothing meaningful)

Sat, 05/10/2014 - 13:58 | 4746322 TheMeatTrapper
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Rescuing Africans from themselves is a never ending job. 

Sat, 05/10/2014 - 15:10 | 4746499 chemystical
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Well we do know that his wookie mate has waded in and expressed her distress. 

Funny thing that 0bama issues statements about Trayvon and the "botched" OK execution, and involved the Justice Dept in both.  Not his 1st and likely not his last moments of taking a stance on the daily news..,but curiously it seems to matter only when it involves a Negro.  And he and the mooch call America racist.

Sat, 05/10/2014 - 10:49 | 4745970 Tracerfan
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That's probably how he got out, over the Black Sea.

Sat, 05/10/2014 - 11:21 | 4746028 Mine Is Bigger
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Or, Russia may have developed teleportation technology!  (Of course, I am joking.  Just in case ...)

Sat, 05/10/2014 - 10:54 | 4745980 indygo55
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Moldovia is landlocked. There is a little strip of Ukrine territory between it and the Black Sea. But could they have made a run for it and gotten over the Black Sea before they were stopped? Probably. But they didn't for SOME REASON. 

Sat, 05/10/2014 - 12:56 | 4746188 bag holder
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Well, given that picture at Domodedovo, that's probably exactly what the real plane did, while the decoy flew over Ukraine. Look at the flight path - it's like Rogozin sent his decoy in a straight line towards Kiev, just to make sure he got their attention.

Sat, 05/10/2014 - 20:52 | 4747082 Patriot Eke
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Considering who it was, why would he take any other route?  This is a grand game of chess after all.  

Sat, 05/10/2014 - 10:55 | 4745982 Boomberg
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As the article said Moldova is land-locked surrounded by Ukraine and Romania. The small strip of land near the Black Sea is still not Moldova, and the airspace over the large body of water to the southwest of Odessa is Ukraine or Romania's turf.,29.2507504,9z/data...!4m2!3m1!1s0x40c97c3628b769a1:0x258119acdf53accb


Sat, 05/10/2014 - 11:41 | 4746072 smacker
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The article doesn't say what you claim, Nevertheless you are right in saying it is landlocked. The map used suggests otherwise.

Sat, 05/10/2014 - 12:12 | 4746123 Boomberg
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deleted. not worth the effort.

Sat, 05/10/2014 - 11:00 | 4745988 DeadFred
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Moldova doesn't touch the Black Sea. They have to cross the Ukraine to get there. If not the Ukraine they would have to cross Rumania. The inconvenience of not having access to the ocean is why Russia historically has spent so much blood to take the Crimea many years ago and why it was so stupid for the Kenyan guy and his co-lackies to try to remove Russian access by overthrowing the Ukrainian government. Of course in order to get full access to the sea from the south they will need to control the straights through Turkey and Gibralter. That's for later though.

Sat, 05/10/2014 - 11:38 | 4746065 smacker
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"Moldova doesn't touch the Black Sea."

Indeed. But the map used up top in this article suggests otherwise.

Sat, 05/10/2014 - 13:08 | 4746211 BlindMonkey
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I guess you aren't familiar with maps then? Dude, really drop it.

Sat, 05/10/2014 - 20:54 | 4747085 Patriot Eke
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Again, and I mean no offense by this, it wasn't stupid.  The goal is to provoke Russia, so everything being done is on purpose of course.

Sat, 05/10/2014 - 11:06 | 4745996 chemystical
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I don't believe that Moldova controls any airspace over either the Danube or the Dniester.  A plane would have to fly over either Romanian or Ukrainian airspace to reach the Black Sea.

Sat, 05/10/2014 - 11:06 | 4746000 Son of Captain Nemo
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"I can't see why the Russian plane couldn't have flown out over the Black Sea and headed to Russia from there"...

Yes but of course!  And what might have happened if those Ukrainian Migs shot down an undefended plane carrying a key diplomat?

This is the Evo Morales flight diversion version but with a neighboring Country that carries 58,000 nuclear warheads!

Sat, 05/10/2014 - 11:22 | 4746026 DeadFred
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This incident is evidence that thing are not as hot as they might be. You can't force a jet to land you can only shoot it down.  If things were really hot the controllers would have been told the plane was continuing on anyway and if something untoward happened to it they should move quickly to their fallout shelters. We still have a couple of weeks befor this things starts to boil, time for Obama to back down and eat some crow.

Sat, 05/10/2014 - 11:29 | 4746039 McMolotov
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Obama ate dog, so eating crow should be easy. Tastes like chicken.

Sat, 05/10/2014 - 11:34 | 4746051 Winston Churchill
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If he does he will be JFK'ed.
If its not obvious to you by now,TPTB are intent on WWIII
as a prerequisite for their version of a NWO.
The road is over for can kicking, the status quo is about to implode, and someone else's version is imminent.

Sat, 05/10/2014 - 12:58 | 4746190 Jorgen
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...time for Obama to back down and eat some crow.

BHO is not running this show. Deep State is.

Sat, 05/10/2014 - 13:04 | 4746203 lakecity55
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Well, if they shot it down, the Russian flag would be flying over Kiev tomorrow, and there would be 100,000 Russian soldiers looking for motels to crash in. Not to mention any semblance of Ukrainian military would no longer exist.

Keep pushing Russia- not just Putin- Russia, and see what happens.

Sat, 05/10/2014 - 20:58 | 4747094 Patriot Eke
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That's the plan.  Russia knows it however, so it will be interesting to see what they do.  I suspect Russia will continue to play it cool and hope the referendums give them an easy out.  Expect the West to continue putting pressure on however directly and through false flags.  The West's objective is to provoke, and Russia's is to stall (while irregular forces and the people of Eastern Ukraine do their work for them).

Sat, 05/10/2014 - 11:33 | 4746047 smacker
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They wouldn't have shot it down. Risks were far too great. This was a PR stunt intended only to annoy Moscow.

Sat, 05/10/2014 - 13:15 | 4746220 BlindMonkey
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I agree that this was just a petty game played by Kiev. However, based on the tweet times, I suspect he was never in the first aircraft. If he had to return to Moldova at 6:24am he couldn't be in Moscow at just after 9am.

Sat, 05/10/2014 - 14:11 | 4746359 smacker
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Well spotted BlindMonkey...what sharp eyes you have ;-)

I see he has now tweeted from Moscow having taken another plane. Very clever.

Sat, 05/10/2014 - 12:14 | 4746128 paddyirishman
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You might want to check the map of Moldova again, it's landlocked, which means its surrounded by land in this case Romania and Ukraine, therefore not touching the Black sea.

Sat, 05/10/2014 - 13:07 | 4746196 just-my-opinion
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Too bad....when Billy Joel brought the world to the USSR...and they loved it....we would end up like this can blame O if you want....but there is only one reason to blame....the people make it...and they will kill it

The people rule...but you know what I mean

I wish I had an under-ground bunker


Sat, 05/10/2014 - 14:24 | 4746389 BanksterSlayer
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Moldova is land locked. That bit of coastline on its southern end belongs to Ukraine.

Sat, 05/10/2014 - 15:17 | 4746518 Bokkenrijder
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@smacker "I can't see why the Russian plane couldn't have flown out over the Black Sea and headed to Russia from there."

Maybe because Moldova is landlocked? Furthermore, if you continue to fly south over the Black Sea, you'll end up in Turkey, also a NATO member. The only way would be to ignore the Ukranian threats over the Black Sea (Kiev controls that part of the airspace) and see if you can make it to Simferopol in the, now Russian, Crimea.

p.s. a Yakovlev 42...Jesus! That's close to suicidal to board one of those, Rogozin might as well also take his chances with those Ukranian MIG's! ;-)

Sat, 05/10/2014 - 17:02 | 4746763 eXMachina
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Moldova is landlocked. If flying toward the black sea it would violate Ukrainian airspace.

Sat, 05/10/2014 - 17:13 | 4746782 Leonardo Fibonacci2
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I've been to Moldova to visit wine cellars.  AMAZING!!!! I GOT DRUNK FOR 10 DAYS

Sat, 05/10/2014 - 20:22 | 4747020 SomebodySpecial
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Russia should just shut down the gas supply by 70%.

Then the EU governments would get to choose who gets the gas...people to heat their homes or use the gas to heat the parlement buildings.

Putin is smart to let the people decide.

I think they call that Democracy...

Sat, 05/10/2014 - 10:38 | 4745949 EverythingEviL
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Now were heatin up!

Sat, 05/10/2014 - 10:54 | 4745981 BandGap
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Everybody's warring for the weekends,

Everybody wants a new bro-mance, hey, heeey!

Everybody's going off the deep end,

Everybody wants a second chance.

Sat, 05/10/2014 - 10:38 | 4745950 Theta_Burn
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Ukraine's airforce wont exist after a 3 day confrontation with Russia.

Enjoy this victory puppets, after tomorrow the tide starts going out... 

Sat, 05/10/2014 - 10:58 | 4745986 Boomberg
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Would love to see some MIG on MIG action.

Sat, 05/10/2014 - 11:06 | 4746001 Oh regional Indian
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plenty on you tube. why wish for some poor guy/s to die...

Sat, 05/10/2014 - 21:00 | 4747101 Patriot Eke
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MiG on Flanker wouldn't be action at all.  It would be boring and over before the MiG pilots knew what happened.

Sat, 05/10/2014 - 15:34 | 4746576 Volkodav
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More like a a few hours max.

unless limit them to west

They hardly have airforce unless propped up.


Sat, 05/10/2014 - 10:39 | 4745951 Aussiekiwi
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Yep, agree seems logical route to take.

Sat, 05/10/2014 - 10:39 | 4745952 Jorgen
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Rogozin was Morales'ized.

Sat, 05/10/2014 - 10:41 | 4745954 Carpenter1
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If the tables were turned and Russia did this to a NATO official, it would be the start of WW3.

Sat, 05/10/2014 - 10:48 | 4745968 smacker
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Biden may be a better comparison. Then again, if he was blocked from leaving somewhere a lot of people might be happy.

Sat, 05/10/2014 - 10:43 | 4745959 tmosley
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After reading the headline I thought they had taken him prisoner.

That would have been fun.

Sat, 05/10/2014 - 10:47 | 4745964 short screwed
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Won't this give the Russians more incentive to annex Odessa?

Sat, 05/10/2014 - 10:51 | 4745975 ihedgemyhedges
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They can try, but Texans are a pretty tough bunch............

Sat, 05/10/2014 - 11:11 | 4746006 BorisTheBlade
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Much tougher than Georgians...

Sat, 05/10/2014 - 10:50 | 4745966 Commodore64
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Kindergarten, over and over and over and over again.....

Infant minds in adult bodies.

Just the toys got bigger and the playground...


When will we ever learn.

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