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"Is The U.S. A Capitalist Democracy Or Oligarchy?" Janet Yellen Doesn't Know

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Submitted by Mike Krieger of Liberty Blitzkrieg blog,

During this week’s Senate hearings, Janet Yellen was asked by Senator Bernie Sanders if the U.S. was a capitalist democracy or has morphed into an oligarchy. While readers of this site already know the answer to this question, which was recently proved empirically by a Princeton and Northwestern academic study, it was still stunning to note her unwillingness to answer the question.

I will give her some credit for not flat out lying about it. She inherently understands that the U.S. is a corrupt, shameful oligarchy, but as head of the institution most responsible for this transformation she simply cannot tell the truth. It is incredible that things have fallen so far that a U.S. Senator felt compelled to ask such a question, and even worse that such a powerful official couldn’t vehemently and decisively deny the claim.

Where I take exception with Sanders, is that he appears to live under some strange sort of hypnosis that makes him think only Republican oligarchs are problematic. Of course no sane person should draw any serious distinction between establishment Democrats or Republicans. Furthermore, he also makes the mistake of focusing on the 1%, when the real problem resides in a far smaller  0.01%, which I described in my post: Where Does the Real Problem Reside? Two Charts Showing the 0.01% vs. the 1%.

See for yourself:



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Sat, 05/10/2014 - 14:40 | 4746433 TeamDepends
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Answer:  I'm the Goddess of the Fed, AND I'm from Berkely, deal with it bitchez!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Sat, 05/10/2014 - 15:11 | 4746504 Doña K
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Congress gave her the power and is afraid to take it back. Congress can make laws and redistribute all the income they want. But statistically speaking if the 1% or even the 10% pay 100% of their income or even their wealth, is not enough to bring everyone to par.

We are so deep into the slide that the banks can replace any politician in a NY minute. They have the goods on everyone thanks to NSA including the supreme court which has been very disappointing the last several years.

So congress can ask all the difficult questions, but she will bounce it back to them as they make the laws.

Turn the light off. I have been considering Botswana for my new residence and live amongst wild animals and feel a lot more comfortable and free as they are more predictable than TPTB. Case and point a hyena came into the hotel lobby and sat on the couch. We used a powerful referee whistle and she run out 0-60 in 6 sec.  

Sat, 05/10/2014 - 15:19 | 4746523 ZerOhead
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When a wild hyena sitting on your hotel couch becomes more predictable than TPTB you know that TEOTWAWKI can't be far away...

Sat, 05/10/2014 - 15:24 | 4746552 MarsInScorpio
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And this airhead is going to run the world?


Janet is proof-positive that some entity calls the shots for the West.


Sat, 05/10/2014 - 15:41 | 4746580 ZerOhead
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Just until Stanley Fischer gets into town...

Sat, 05/10/2014 - 15:40 | 4746584 ZerOhead
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BTW... anybody see Stan lately?

Sat, 05/10/2014 - 16:48 | 4746660 imapopulistnow
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She really gave the best answer she could without having to lie.

Sat, 05/10/2014 - 16:37 | 4746723 NuYawkFrankie
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When a wild hyena sitting on your hotel couch becomes more palatable than TPTB... 

Mon, 05/12/2014 - 19:17 | 4752683 MeelionDollerBogus
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and to think: that hyena will never pretend it can change its spots. Banksters on the other hand...

Sat, 05/10/2014 - 15:26 | 4746558 MarsInScorpio
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Why did Roberts change his vote on ObamaCare?


Hmmmmmmm . . . .


NSA! NSA! Do what we say! We know how you play! NSA! NSA!


Sat, 05/10/2014 - 15:29 | 4746562 TeamDepends
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Because they threatened to cut his scrotum off?

Sat, 05/10/2014 - 15:45 | 4746599 Uncle Remus
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More like cut his conjugal visits with his scrotum.

Sat, 05/10/2014 - 15:54 | 4746616 TeamDepends
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Even worse!!!!!   This is what they mean by "fair".

Sat, 05/10/2014 - 15:57 | 4746627 Antarctico
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More likely they threatened him with making a stink about his illegal adoption via Latin America of his two Irish born children.

Sat, 05/10/2014 - 21:28 | 4747177 Dewey Cheatum Howe
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Citizens of Great Britain and Canada should concerned about Roberts and The Supreme Court also.

The fact they wouldn't hear the NDAA case concerning indefinite detention should be a major concern since trial by jury is one of the underpinnings of English Common Law. They ought to fucking know that and should have taken the case and struck down the indefinite part of it. It is one thing to allow for an entity to hold someone for a fixed period of time like up to a year for example before charging them but the fact is the get their chance to contest that detention in court through a trial eventually. This is just a big fuck you to the whole entire English Common Law system by them, if they had any respect for the law they would have struck that part down with no ambiguity in the ruling saying you can detain someone just not detain anyone period for an indefinite amount of time. You know once the ass wiping on Common Law is allowed to happen it is just going to spread and not just in the US....

The US Supreme Court just happens to be based upon the British Supreme Court and the US legal system's underpinnings just happens to be based upon English Common Law.


Sun, 05/11/2014 - 00:24 | 4747531 MrPalladium
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The British Supreme Court is a branch of the House of Lords and has no powers of judicial review as we know it, that is, the power to nullify an act of Parliament.

So the U.S. Supreme Court was radically different from the "Law Lords" as they were styled prior to 2005 and the "Supreme Court" as they are called post 2005.

Sun, 05/11/2014 - 08:26 | 4747796 Dewey Cheatum Howe
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An act of Parliment and Common Law are not the same though they do overlap. Yes it is true that Parliment can amend or repeal common law but unless things have changed in the UK the lower courts recognize and rule in favor of Common Law as the primary statute were they overlap. Granted this applies only to Wales and England, Scotland and North Ireland are seperate jursidictions.

My point being the lower courts would rule against indefinite detention in Britain before it even made it's way to the British Supreme Court because the indefinite violates the whole idea of a trial by jury in the first place. You can't hold people indefinitely, once you do that, you might as well throw the law out the window and just call the place a dictatorship. Legal isn't lawful in all cases and that is what a trial by jury ensures when it crosses the line.

They will just make it legal to indefinitely detain people for indefinite reasons (basically anything over time once the precedent is set).


Mon, 05/12/2014 - 19:17 | 4752681 MeelionDollerBogus
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Inconsequential. America can make plenty of laws that are illegal in Canada & vice versa. "based on" goes back too many centuries to stop such a legal change.
It just means now that Canadians need to be smart enough to boycott the USA police-state.

Sat, 05/10/2014 - 19:38 | 4746948 Tuco Benedicto ...
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Savuti or Bust!!!!!!



Sat, 05/10/2014 - 20:47 | 4747064 Seek_Truth
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“When one gets in bed with government, one must expect the diseases it spreads.” - Ron Paul

Sun, 05/11/2014 - 04:56 | 4747676 hansg
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What do you expect will happen in Botswana once the inflow of foreign money stops, though? Will there be enough food? Or will the locals simply eat the foreigners first?

Sat, 05/10/2014 - 15:10 | 4746505 max2205
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I'll take its a Shithole for.2,000 Alex

Sat, 05/10/2014 - 15:19 | 4746527 Oracle of Kypseli
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Berkeley is a hornet's nest indeed with PHD's fantasizing of controling the world. The good old boys will eventually make you extinct

Sat, 05/10/2014 - 16:04 | 4746647 Bananamerican
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You mean "the bearded gals" but point taken....

Sat, 05/10/2014 - 16:10 | 4746662 Wannabee
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And if you really want to something "out there", check out UC Santa Cruz

Sun, 05/11/2014 - 00:27 | 4747534 MrPalladium
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visited UCSC once and the hairy legs on the females gave me the willies. Spectacular shrink-a-dink. Couldn't wait to get back to Orange County, CA.

Sat, 05/10/2014 - 16:38 | 4746667 messymerry
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Ella koritsi, kalo messymerry, I recently began teaching part time at a midwestern liberal arts university.  I am astonished at just how ingrained the liberal fascist culture has become.  It's scary.  The worst part is how they treat the undergraduate students like 8th graders.  Don't fee like it's just Berkeley, because it is the entire education establishment.  The following are all fascist organizations:  The Education Industrial Complex, the Criminal industrial Complex, the Media Industrial Complex, the Political Industrial Complex,,, etc. etc. ad nauseam.  The population curve and the technology curve can be superimposed on each other almost perfectly.  Both are exponential and describe an asymptote.  We are on the vertical part of the curve.  Prepare...

[Edit] Posso chronia esai?

Sat, 05/10/2014 - 22:21 | 4747328 Confused
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If you aren't familiar with him, watch some of his talks on youtube. What you have described will make more sense. My apologies if you have already been introduced to him.

Sat, 05/10/2014 - 23:46 | 4747496 Dewey Cheatum Howe
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They all learned their basic tradecraft and techniques including the CIA and MI6 from the Jesuits. The empire has been at this a lot longer than the US or these spy agencies have been in existence.

Sun, 05/11/2014 - 07:48 | 4747752 messymerry
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Interesting bio on Bezmenov.  Not many people fully appreciate the superimposition of those two curves.  Ray Kurzweil (currently the head of Evil Google's AI effort) deescribes the technology side brilliantly in his book, "The Singularity is Near".  Unfortunately, the Googlemeisters, i.e. Schmidt and Cohen, (a couple of fascist puppetmasters if I've ever seen 'em) completely gloss over the dire effects of too many effing people on the planet.  The laws of nature are immutable.  We simply cannot go on much longer the way we are.  When/If we survive the coming conflagration, there will be a renaissance of unimagined scale.  We will then take our place among the successful advanced civilizations of the universe...  

Sun, 05/11/2014 - 02:26 | 4747631 RichardParker
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You're not kidding:

The Berkeley Mafia and the Indonesian Massacre:

" It was left to Berkeley actually to train most of the key Indonesians who would seize government power to put their pro-American lessons into practice. “



Sat, 05/10/2014 - 15:11 | 4746510 booboo
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You must mean Berserkly, but at least they ran Janet Napolitano off so the deserve some credit.

Sat, 05/10/2014 - 15:20 | 4746536 Oracle of Kypseli
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She changed her name to Incompitano to match her qualifications

Sat, 05/10/2014 - 15:24 | 4746553 European American
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Maybe, but I'm not so sure. "Goddess" is not the look they are trying to convey with this actress. We're way past what is actually said or done by this private corporation now, whom ever it appears is at the helm. It's the "look" that counts, i.e. sweet, harmless, speaking slowly, methodically and sounding like an older, maybe retired economics school teacher, one that can be trusted, no matter how bad the economic landscape is under siege, by the proverbial catastrophic wild fire.

Sat, 05/10/2014 - 16:26 | 4746704 Bokkenrijder
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Well, I'm not a big fan of the FED or the FED system and I'll probably get a lot of shit for this, but a least she came across as being honest and didn't try to baffle everyone with bullshit like 99,9% of all politicians do...

Sat, 05/10/2014 - 16:31 | 4746713 TheReplacement
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Seriously now, this a public conversation about wealth redistribution between two federal officials who obviously are outright communists.  How are people not seeing this?

Sat, 05/10/2014 - 22:23 | 4747333 Confused
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Funny considering he is just as co-opted as any, but for some reason he is outraged. Hahaha. 

Sat, 05/10/2014 - 14:41 | 4746434 svayambhu108
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Oligarchy .

Sat, 05/10/2014 - 15:57 | 4746611 A Nanny Moose
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This is a false dichotomy, since all Governmnet is Oligarchy. PERIOD.

Sanders is just another CONgresscritter retard, trying to rile his populist base. They would sell their own mothers to buy votes.

Sat, 05/10/2014 - 16:25 | 4746695 nmewn
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And he is a self confessed socialist to boot.

Borg Collective: Shut up about it already nmewn.

Me: No, I don't give a damn, he is, its the truth.

MJ: Are you a Democrat, an independent, or a socialist?

BS: You can call me anything you want. I won with the label "Independent" next to my name. If you ask me, "Are you an independent democratic socialist?" — yes, I am. But then we have to talk about what that means.

Well, thanks for cutting off the interview right there, Mr. Ridgeway, "former senior correspondent at Mother Jones and a 2012 Soros Justice Media Fellow", more than a few might have gotten some insight into how Bernie planned to hand our wallets over to corporations & the state ;-)

Sat, 05/10/2014 - 16:34 | 4746720 TheReplacement
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They were laying down the argument, same as the Pope, that there is a legit redistribution of wealth by the state but it isn't going the right way at this time so the government is going to have to do something in order to take the wealth away from people like the Koch bro's and give it to the poor while their lackeys and sycophants siphon off their share in the process.

This is THE oligarchy publicly discussing how they are going to fleece their opponents with their next move. 

Sat, 05/10/2014 - 19:58 | 4746990 Tuco Benedicto ...
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Trust me!  The Koch brothers are safe!

Can't say the same for your 401K or IRA though!



Sun, 05/11/2014 - 10:30 | 4747961 NihilistZero
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Fuck the Koch Brothers and every other billionaire.  I can't think of a single one who could have amassed such wealth without the power of .gov protecting their intellectual and tangible assets for exponentially less than market pricing.  These welfare corpratists empire's could not exist without .gov, yet they rail against it at every opportunity.

   Fuck the billionaires.




Sat, 05/10/2014 - 21:09 | 4747129 Excursionist
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Bernie Sanders, union stooge:

He and the people he represents are pissed about the Koch Brothers class not sharing enough of the spoils.

Two sides of the same corrupted coin.

Sat, 05/10/2014 - 14:42 | 4746436 PAWNMAN
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Perhaps because she is new to the position, she isn't comfortable with compulsively lying yet? Give her some time and she'll be spewing BS like her predecessors.

Sat, 05/10/2014 - 15:27 | 4746554 GVB
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She has no time left. She's screwed. And she will learn in the next couple of weeks. 

Sat, 05/10/2014 - 14:42 | 4746437 sleigher
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They concern her...  Yeah, insofar as they are affecting the wealth trajectory towards the 0.01% 

Sat, 05/10/2014 - 14:43 | 4746438 Troll Magnet
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Sanders is a self-proclaimed socialist. Janet is...I don't know what he is.

Sat, 05/10/2014 - 19:56 | 4746984 Tuco Benedicto ...
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Let me see!?


Janet Reno, Janet Napolitano and Janet Yellen.

Don't name your next daughter "Janet"!!!!!!!


Sat, 05/10/2014 - 14:43 | 4746441 Uncle Remus
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It is supposed to be a Constitutional Republic, but that wasn't a choice.

Sat, 05/10/2014 - 14:54 | 4746468 franciscopendergrass
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The Constitution is a well-intentioned historical document that has been trampled on for decades.  No Bible, Constitution, or any sort of paper will ever protect someone from tyranny.  Only the will of freedom loving people will ever do that.  How many of us are there left?

Sat, 05/10/2014 - 15:19 | 4746524 RumCurrency
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Not many considering that was the intention of Democratic policies over many decades.  Create laws that discourage the forming of tradition families and replace them with single-parent households dependent on handouts.  The dependent voters are quite literally outbreeding the self-supporting ones, and the invetable result is what you will typically see in South American nations.

Sat, 05/10/2014 - 15:50 | 4746607 franciscopendergrass
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+1000  Democracy always ends up being a system of bread and circuses.

Sat, 05/10/2014 - 16:01 | 4746640 Antarctico
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+1000  Democracy always ends up being a system of bread and circuses.

I find the bread to be stale and without flavor, and the circuses to be uninspired and dull. Is there a manager on duty I can complain to?

Sat, 05/10/2014 - 19:54 | 4746979 Tuco Benedicto ...
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Yes, "Maximus", the Spainard!



Sat, 05/10/2014 - 15:46 | 4746600 Uncle Remus
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Trick question...

Sat, 05/10/2014 - 15:53 | 4746615 JLee2027
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 How many of us are there left?


Enough. It only took a minority percentage to rebel against the King. Wait until the EBT's get cut off.

Sat, 05/10/2014 - 16:11 | 4746664 imapopulistnow
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How many of us are there left?

I suppose you could check your up arrow count at the end of the day...

Sat, 05/10/2014 - 20:17 | 4747011 Boxed Merlot
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No Bible, Constitution, or any sort of paper will ever protect someone from tyranny.  Only the will of freedom loving people will ever do that…



At the time of the creation of the US Constitution, the “Bible” in use by those that wrote it was the 66 book canonized version that had only recently been available to English speaking people.  These men were heavily influenced by the truths that remained concealed by virtue of the Latin Vulgate and other original language versions which were for the most part kept from the laity.

With the advent of the printing press, native language translations and learned individuals clarifying the words, stories and messages now available to common people, the US began its journey of constructing a nation based on the precepts newly found and overlaid into the structure of our governmental system.

I recall learning Ben Franklin saying something to the effect that if the Almighty notices when even a sparrow falls from the sky, can one assume He won’t notice when a nation is conceived?

I also find it interesting to note these men also believed , not in the natural “goodness” of man, but quite the contrary, they realized that the “bondage of the will” actually involved the realization people were / are inherently evil, thus the governmental structure was designed to thwart this natural degradation of human nature.

Paradoxically, our biggest problems exist today as a result of the prevailing belief that people are basically good and we assume the law will reward this good behavior.  Wrong.   Laws are meant to curb evil and are designed to punish those who use their “freedom” to oppress those weaker and vulnerable among us.




Sun, 05/11/2014 - 06:51 | 4747716 Advoc8tr
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I resemble that remark !

I don't see it that way.  a majority of people are good natured ... and apathetic, ignorant, complacent and naive enough to impart their inherent "goodness" onto those that actively seek to lead ... unlike themselves.

All that WAS required for evil men to prevail was that good men minded their own business and did nothing.



Sun, 05/11/2014 - 20:06 | 4748855 Boxed Merlot
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I don't see it that way.  a majority of people are good natured ...

My point is not that people are capable of "doing" good, but that at our best, the motivation behind our actions will always be for an evil purpose unless and until regeneration of the inner person occurs.  That's the original teaching of the reformers and those that escaped the church / state constructs of both Roman Catholicism and English Episcopalian theology.



…I resemble that remark !...

As I also indicated, you are in the majority of persons today, even within the “Christian” community.  I’m only trying to stress the point, our / the US Constitution was constructed by men who were not Pelagian, nor Finneyist in their theology, but rather of the mindset of traditional and historical reformed Christianity.

Their view of the government was to keep a separation of state and church to where the government was not allowed to dictate the sacraments of the church, nor was it the church’s responsibility to wield the sword against those evil persons who transgressed the rights of others, whether as fellow citizens or foreign entities.

The state and the church are both sanctioned by God yet are responsible for different aspects of developing wholesome human conduct and protection from those who would attack the safety, security and development of the weaker, more vulnerable and injured / ill among us.




Sat, 05/10/2014 - 20:25 | 4747024 messymerry
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A good rule of thumb is 3% in the U.S. that's about 11 million people.  

Sat, 05/10/2014 - 15:04 | 4746493 gdogus erectus
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Yes, common tactic. Get us arguing over two wrong answers. Kinda like left versus right.

Sat, 05/10/2014 - 15:56 | 4746621 bigkahuna
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I expect nothing more from these politicians. Heck they are false paradigms themselves.

Sat, 05/10/2014 - 15:30 | 4746532 Chief Wonder Bread
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Careful there, bro, you might be a 'terrist' if...

you say we have a Constitutional Republic.


Here's what I wrote on Thursday on another thread:

Yellen says 'I don't know what to call our system,' in testimony before CONgress:

You can call it the GREEDSPANKME system, Mr Chairwomanman.

(of which you're the new boss satob) <giggle>

Sat, 05/10/2014 - 14:45 | 4746446 Sinnedi
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Of course its a oligarchy bought and paid for the Rothschild's the secret societies and CFR and other geopolitical corporations. No sane person wants to have this. We want the country back to people who care for the american people.

Proof of their rule

Proof the esoteric hire shills to actively attack other cultures to hide their political status.

WE need america to come back to Americans and all secret information go to all of mankind so we can be enlightened

Sat, 05/10/2014 - 14:51 | 4746461 sleigher
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The more I read about this sort of thing, the more I begin to think this has been a conspiracy for at least 2000 years if not 5000.  The masons and the great architechts of the pyramids know they were an energy creation device and these are some of the most well hidden secrets ever.  Free energy and free mankind.  Control energy and control mankind.  

Sat, 05/10/2014 - 14:54 | 4746469 stacking12321
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how exactly does a pyramid, a series of blocks of stone, create energy, exactly?

that's like saying that printing up a bunch of dollar bills, with the eye in the pyramid on the back (put there by free masons incidentally), will create wealth.


Sat, 05/10/2014 - 15:10 | 4746500 ZerOhead
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But it does create wealth... fantastic fortunes actually.

Just not for you or me.

Sat, 05/10/2014 - 15:14 | 4746517 HedgeHammer
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Maybe it's because I've had a few drinks and my wife is pissing me off at 9 months 3 days and still just a bitch. Tesla understood what the Egyptians mastered and so did Edward Leedskalnin. I will leave it at that,.

Sun, 05/11/2014 - 07:17 | 4747741 Advoc8tr
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It wasn't Egyptian technology ... they were the manpower. If they knew how it worked it wouldn't have been lost and used after the fact by their leaders as coffins.

I see it more like your plane crashes in the middle of the amazon and you instruct the natives to fashion a water wheel from trees to turn the alternator that was salvaged from the plane and create the god like power of electricty.  You die or leave and the alternator wears out and perishes or is stolen and lost meanwhile they keep building wooden paddle wheels that spin in the water.

There can be no doubt there was some kind of extra terrestrial involvement as far as I am concerned.  Look at the persistent cave art, drawings, paintings, read the translations of the sumerian tablets ... we can't build those things today with our best technology. It is the logical explanation of the whole 'God' phenonemon and his "unearthy" powers.

How is it even improbable ?  We can lauch our selves into space and have begun genetic engineering of both plants and animals ourselves ? It is the most credible estimation based on the lack of any hard evidence otherwise.

The tablets describe their motivation as needing the gold to repair their fucked up atmosphere. Sound familiar ... we're apparently doing that too now ?  Also helps understand our eternal infatuation and coveting of gold ?

C'mon ... what's not to like.  Beats the invisible and silent man (of a thousand variations) in sky hands down :)

Sun, 05/11/2014 - 10:45 | 4747982 intric8
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Humanity just might be a huge genetic experiment by advanced aliens. they gave one race an edge. they're appalled how its all turnng out.

Mon, 05/12/2014 - 16:00 | 4752030 MeelionDollerBogus
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wait, it was aliens?

Sat, 05/10/2014 - 15:20 | 4746535 gdogus erectus
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Let's see, Wardenclyffe tower comes to mind, a silly long wire blowing up that was trailed by the space shuttle, even the precisely cut stone inside the smartphone you are holding now that is used as a frequency reference or a speaker. (Crystal oscillator and piezoelectric speaker). Etc etc

Sat, 05/10/2014 - 15:23 | 4746547 HedgeHammer
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Also Know as Quartz in the simplest of terms.

Sat, 05/10/2014 - 17:12 | 4746779 stacking12321
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ok, i have googled Wardenclyffe tower - apparently it's a wireless transmission tower.

what does that have to do with creation of energy?

sorry, but i find your reply unsatisfactory.

transmitting a signal is not creating energy.

Sat, 05/10/2014 - 19:16 | 4746922 HedgeHammer
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 It is the way in which it was built. It was what it was built upon that is crucial. Running water was key to producing the energy. Well I've had way many more beers since my first post tonight so forgive me for Waylen Jennings is jamming in the background. We live in an era that continuously writes it's own history for the sole purpose of keeping us confused and ignorant of the world/universe that surrounds us.. Wardencliffe Tower was built up an underground aquifer.The time-line which mainstream science is written is completely wrong. I recommend that you and others take a peek at "The Pyramid Code" and pay special attention to the morality that is touched upon regarding civilization and the change between the ancient Egyptian culture versus the new Culture in which money and bribery takes a foothold.


Will Check back later to clarify if needed. In the simplest terms this battle which we've been fighting has been going on for several thousand years and it alll boils doewn to the fact that money can be used to buy one's salvation so to speak.

Sat, 05/10/2014 - 21:56 | 4747270 stacking12321
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ok, i am attempting to keep an open mind, but i am still not seeing it.

you say "Running water was key to producing the energy." - ok, so, hydro power, then? like a paddle wheel, or a grain mill? assuming that's the case, then what does a pyramid have to do with it? why not a cube or a sphere?

i've googled pyramid code as you suggested, i see a number of sites debunking the pyramid code as "junk science".

i've even tried watching the first 15 min of youtube "The Pyramid Code: The Band of Peace" (episode 1 of 5). ok so they shows some nice scenery and have some nice music, and make vague suggestions that egyptian civilization is thousands of years older than the canonical view holds, and also that they were more "advanced". still no explanation of how a large pyramid of stone creates energy, though. maybe the explanation is later in the series? or maybe you can provide a link?

"In the simplest terms this battle which we've been fighting has been going on for several thousand years and it alll boils doewn to the fact that money can be used to buy one's salvation"

sorry, not following this at all. what battle? and who's been fighting (i haven't been around more than a few decades)? and what is salvation?


Sun, 05/11/2014 - 18:17 | 4749011 HedgeHammer
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The series is somewhat vague on the energy producing capabilities of the pyramids but does give you a good idea of how it worked. Running water is energy, granite stone emits it's own radiation and is considered a living stone, red limestone is high in iron content as where white limestone has almost no iron whatsoever. I wish there was one link I could give to you that would answer all of your questions but I cannot for it has taken me almost 5 years of researching all I could find on Tesla's writing's and drawings and Edward Leedskalnin's work on the "Coral Castle" which has led me to look further into the mainstream "accepted theory" of the Egyptian culture today.

I do encourage you to begin with the "Pyramid Code" and watch it in it's entirety, and then watch it again. Today there are 2 different Egyptian sects not talked about. Each sect has two different stories of their history. One is accepted by mainstream science today and the other is not. The old Egyptian in the series is a priest of the other sect whom keeps their history and passes down the information verbally as has been done. Not saying that this series is the end all absolute but is a good start if you truly want to begin to understand.

Granite conducts electricity and that's a fact

Red Limestone will act somewhat as a capacitor where white lime stone is a perfect insulator.

Nicolas Tesla and Edward Leedskalnin. I don't think I can give you anymore other then to research Tesla's patent's on free energy collection devices. This should all begin to put a gigantic puzzle together for you.

Good luck and thanks for the responses.

Still no baby yet! GD!

Mon, 05/12/2014 - 15:59 | 4752017 MeelionDollerBogus
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"granite stone emits it's own radiation and is considered a living stone"

No it's not.

"red limestone is high in iron content as where white limestone has almost no iron whatsoever"

Neither one is a fuel / energy source.

"Granite conducts electricity and that's a fact"

Is it? How much? Measure & report, thank you.

Compare to copper wire, for example, or the common atmospheric mix of air.

"research Tesla's patent's on free energy collection devices"

There are no such patents.

I think you're getting confused. Nothing is "free" to build and no energy is "free" to create, and to collect is not to create, just to collect & possibly convert to another format, like a solar-electric PV panel. That panel still isn't free as it requires matter & energy to manufacture, install & replace/repair.

Mon, 05/12/2014 - 15:53 | 4751989 MeelionDollerBogus
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Let's see: those objects don't resemble each other whatsoever.
At all.

Wardenclyffe tower was mostly an underground conducting rod more than what you could see above-ground & without it, would do nothing.

Sat, 05/10/2014 - 15:22 | 4746541 Sinnedi
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There is they know about Atlantis you could read about Thoth and the emerald tablets.

They also believe that all religious events are based off of things that happen in nature like this.


Atlantis thoth

There is double meaning to these tablets. 

One for people of our calibur and one of great initation. 

Just like the symbolism that I have posted in my last statement.

One meaning of ignorance to us and one for the enlightened. Some people might be scared and think all this stuff is evil. It really is not you have to understand the meaning of the symbol of what is presented. And the esoterics speak using symbols.


If you want to know more here is how the esoteric rigged the Communist revolution

George Washington talking about the esoterics

Even there is a Washington statue of esotericism

That symbology is meaning to this esoteric law 

As above so below 

Meaning what happens in your cells

Is what happens directly to your body

Which eventually has an impact to the universe that we directly affect.



And If you want to head down the path of enlightenment.

And study the hidden arts look no further.



Sat, 05/10/2014 - 15:38 | 4746583 shovelhead
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And all this time I've been reading banjo sheet music to find the secrets of the universe.

Sat, 05/10/2014 - 15:43 | 4746595 Uncle Remus
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Banjo = spike in Pucker Factor.

Sat, 05/10/2014 - 19:49 | 4746964 Tuco Benedicto ...
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You mean "Atlanta".  Right!?



Sat, 05/10/2014 - 15:15 | 4746521 waviator
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The problem with blaming the Rothchilds or any other group is that it blames the few instead of the many. Of course they are conspiring to get richer, but so are my neighbors.

My neighbors vote out anyone that threatens their SS, Medicare, AARP discounts, mortgage interest deductions, etc. so as long as their monthly government stipend is protected, they don't care about the oligarchs conspiring to create barriers to entry, give themselves tax breaks and grants, or leveraging the markets.

My neighbors don't care that the Fed and Treasury conspire to cheapen the dollar while holding down interest rates.

My neighbors don't care that the Rothchilds (or conspirator of your choice) control the major media, as long as they can watch 24/7 coverage of inane subjects and gossip.

The problem neighbors. About 300,000,000 of them.

You want to give the country back to the Americans. Why? So they can abdicate, again?

Sat, 05/10/2014 - 15:29 | 4746563 gdogus erectus
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Societies have always ebbed and flowed according to the dogma of the rulers at the time. Unfortunately, humans are much too easily oppressed because we trust what we are told.

We all have the individual power to reject them. Many are waking up to this fact.

Sat, 05/10/2014 - 19:27 | 4746937 HedgeHammer
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Waviator, how can one blame ignorance, tis truly a mute point for ignorance is bliss trully.


Sun, 05/11/2014 - 11:32 | 4748089 waviator
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HH: ignorance IS bliss.

But is averting your eyes the same as ignorance? Or is it good men doing nothing in the presence of evil

Sun, 05/11/2014 - 19:52 | 4749279 HedgeHammer
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Excellent response!


Sat, 05/10/2014 - 20:15 | 4747010 MarsInScorpio
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Wow - strong as acid.


Great close.


Sun, 05/11/2014 - 11:57 | 4748143 Vooter
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"The problem with blaming the Rothchilds or any other group is that it blames the few instead of the many."


Well, let's see YOU try to put 300,000,000 people on a fucking train...

Mon, 05/12/2014 - 15:50 | 4751975 MeelionDollerBogus
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You're mistaken. Those votes won't be counted and their outcome does not affect what you think it does.

Sat, 05/10/2014 - 14:47 | 4746451 Andy Lewis
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She gets paid not to know.

Sat, 05/10/2014 - 15:40 | 4746589 Rip van Wrinkle
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She gets paid to do as she's told.

Sat, 05/10/2014 - 14:52 | 4746464 Bernoulli
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The way she plays with her pen like a child drives me crazy.

Sat, 05/10/2014 - 15:20 | 4746537 DavidC
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The way she starts her responses with 'So...' 99% of the time drives ME crazy.


Sat, 05/10/2014 - 15:37 | 4746581 Bernoulli
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Everybody knows that communication is key in this job. The contents of any FED releases but especially also how they are transmitted can have a MASSIVE impact on the world-wide markets.

As we can assume that her communication "skills" were known well before 2013, why did she nevertheless get the job?

There is simply only one good explanation: Conspiracy.

Somebody WANTS to confuse the markets, somebody WANTS us to stop believing in the power of the FED.

Otherwise they would have found a better fit for the job, no?

But who?

Sat, 05/10/2014 - 20:19 | 4747018 MarsInScorpio
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Alternative theory: She got the job because the chair is a figurehead doing as told by oligarchs transmitting orders through the Top 5 bankster CEOs.


In short, it really doesn't matter what she says. The algos ignore her, the banksters tell her what to do, and the oligarchs report to no one but themselves, meeting through underlings at Davos, etc.



Sat, 05/10/2014 - 15:01 | 4746483 foxenburg
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The USA has always been an oligarchy to a certain extent; the Kennedy & Bush families as an example. This is more pronounced in the UK & Europe, with a mishmash of oligarchs from a select group pf influencial families. The average Joe Doe has little say in his government, despite nominally having the vote.

But if you're talking about rule by bankers and magnates, then the word is plutocracy.

Sat, 05/10/2014 - 15:24 | 4746549 RumCurrency
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What most people fail to see is that it is democracy itself that keeps the plutocracy alive and well.  There are so many voters willing to look past all kinds of corruption because they are dependent on handouts.  They are employing the same bread and circus routine that kept oligarchs in power since the time of Caesar and beyond.

Mon, 05/12/2014 - 15:48 | 4751958 MeelionDollerBogus
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Absolutely wrong.
Democracy itself is where each person actually gets a choice.
Plutocracy is where no one gets a choice but the rich & powerful - not even a vote for someone rich & powerful.
Voting in the USA is an illusion. It isn't a democracy. It's controlled by the banks & the votes are all frauds run by Diebold.

The US government does not and can not ever determine the hand-outs. They serve the banks, the banks decide how many slaves there are & companies like Blackwater/Academi & Stratfor determine when they will riot & what level of handouts prevent the rioting, and advise the bankers. The bankers then instruct their puppet governments who obey immediately or are executed.

You seem to be very badly fooled about what democracy is or is not.
When democracy is not present the outcome is without question:
- police beating people for no reason, constantly & frequently, very publicly
- public rape by police
- public execution of children in front of families by police
Democracy is the singlar and only system in all human history to stop this.

Sat, 05/10/2014 - 15:02 | 4746486 franciscopendergrass
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Listening to two tribe members talking to each other is like listening to nails on a chalkboard.

Sat, 05/10/2014 - 15:08 | 4746488 RumCurrency
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We have policies that promote poor to have more kids and discourages everyone else from having kids.  It's all about creating more voters who are dependent on a certain political party.  That way they have guarenteed voters for life who will allow those in D.C. to get away with extortion and other criminal activities.  Only thing that matters in the country is votes, a tool used to legalize theft from those increasingly rare productive individuals.  What we have is called a democracy, and they always, without exception, self-destruct.

Mon, 05/12/2014 - 15:43 | 4751946 MeelionDollerBogus
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wrong in 3 ways:
#1 democracies are the most stable
#2 voters don't matter in the USA
#3 growing the slave population serves the elites by ensuring more work-hours, more debt & less wages, if any
You're still sleeping, coppertop.

Sat, 05/10/2014 - 15:08 | 4746497 Duc888
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As someone pointed out on another thread here, she graduated Summa Cum Laude which obviously means that she's at least smarter than the top 10,000 of the smartest ZH posters here...


Which I might add is double plus good.


So that means that anyone who remarks against her is dumber than a pile of steaming shit....or something like that.




Sat, 05/10/2014 - 15:22 | 4746546 DavidC
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Noting your final tag there, but why do I feel, watching and listening to her, like Larry Summers, that the lights are on but there's no one at home?


Sat, 05/10/2014 - 15:26 | 4746557 quasimodo
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Still, at the end of the day she will always look like someone fed her with a catapult. No amount of money or a nice degree saying "Look at me!" will ever change this fact. I am beginning to think there is something to this whole inbreeding thing I hear about from time to time.

Sat, 05/10/2014 - 15:48 | 4746603 shovelhead
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Regurgitation should never be confused with cognition.

In the real world, that is.

Sat, 05/10/2014 - 15:15 | 4746503 falak pema
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Thats a question out of "Bob and Carol and Ted and Alice"...

Express your feelings TRULY HONEY ! Awesome movie about "expressionist phoney baloney"...where feelings dominated sense; especially if they expressed libido; what makes the world go round! 

I'm sure in those days Janet agreed whole heartedly. Not so much today.

Oh the evils of power!

Sat, 05/10/2014 - 15:10 | 4746506 Duc888
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stacking 123321 "how exactly does a pyramid, a series of blocks of stone, create energy, exactly?

That's like saying that printing up a bunch of dollar bills, with the eye in the pyramid on the back (put there by free masons incidentally), will create wealth."


Oh my.

Sat, 05/10/2014 - 18:57 | 4746898 stacking12321
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"oh my." is the best reply you have?

why hit the reply button if you don't have an actual answer to the question?


Sat, 05/10/2014 - 15:11 | 4746508 i_call_you_my_base
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Her salary requires that she not understand.

Sat, 05/10/2014 - 15:13 | 4746513 Duc888
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gdogus erectus: Yes, common tactic. Get us arguing over two wrong answers. Kinda like left versus right.


I prefer the term "not even wrong"

Not even wrong refers to any statement, argument or explanation that can be neither correct nor incorrect, because it fails to meet the criteria by which correctness and incorrectness are determined.


Sat, 05/10/2014 - 15:23 | 4746548 MarsInScorpio
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And this airhead is going to run the world?


Janet is proof-positive that some entity calls the shots for the West.


Sat, 05/10/2014 - 15:35 | 4746575 starman
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Most of you in the USA are slaves to the system! Drowning in debt!  At least in Europe people "live"! If you dont seee what Iam talking about go visit europe! 

Sat, 05/10/2014 - 15:47 | 4746601 Uncle Remus
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That's funny.

Sat, 05/10/2014 - 16:00 | 4746638 shovelhead
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Wielding a 2 day old bagette will do you no good when the invading Muslim hoarde break out their bread helmets.

Sat, 05/10/2014 - 16:20 | 4746687 imapopulistnow
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One must read Starman with a thick French accent for full effect.

Sat, 05/10/2014 - 18:59 | 4746901 stacking12321
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what invading muslim horde?

they don't need to invade, they're already there, living off the socialist european welfare system.


Sat, 05/10/2014 - 17:12 | 4746772 sessinpo
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American freedom, kicking ass

European freedom, getting their ass kicked and being thankful for it.

Sat, 05/10/2014 - 15:52 | 4746613 TNTARG
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It's very ackward watching a US Senator having to ask such questions.

This World has become more surrealistic than ever.

P.S.: You're paying high fees to your universities for teaching you bullshit.

Sat, 05/10/2014 - 15:58 | 4746629 orangegeek
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It appears that Yellen has told one lie too many (economic recovery still after five years, employment, etc) and her abilities or lack thereof can't handle it.





Sat, 05/10/2014 - 16:02 | 4746643 Kreditanstalt
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While Bernie Sanders hits the nail on the head, his answers are always MORE GOVERNMENT and MORE REGULATION.

We need a free market solution: remove government's power.

Sat, 05/10/2014 - 16:04 | 4746648 aqualech
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I wonder if Sanders knows what a "republic" is?

Sat, 05/10/2014 - 17:07 | 4746770 sessinpo
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aqualech          I wonder if Sanders knows what a "republic" is?


The problem is that the people that keep voting Sanders in, do not know.

Sat, 05/10/2014 - 19:21 | 4746929 mjcOH1
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"I wonder if Sanders knows what a "republic" is?"

He knows. He may hate the idea, but he knows. Same for his constituents.

Mon, 05/12/2014 - 15:36 | 4751904 MeelionDollerBogus
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easy answer. A republic is an empire or proto-empire built on slavery, codified by law, where individual freedom is not possible.

Sat, 05/10/2014 - 16:08 | 4746655 mr.n3utr0n
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I guess I should warn you, if I turn out to be particularly clear, you've probably misunderstood what I've said.

Alan Greenspan

Sat, 05/10/2014 - 16:14 | 4746672 IndianaJohn
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Does the lady smoke White Owl cigars?

Sat, 05/10/2014 - 16:26 | 4746703 blunderdog
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Sat, 05/10/2014 - 16:31 | 4746714 Spirit of T.R.
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Why is the focus always on taxes?  I like some of what Bernie is about but he can be so damn narrow in his ideology.  You want to expand the middle class?  Sherman Act, baby.  Break up the investment banks and create competition and jobs.  Then break up a bunch of other industries too and thereby create jobs, lower prices, and increased wealth distribution.

Sat, 05/10/2014 - 18:27 | 4746721 NuYawkFrankie
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re Is The U.S. A Capitalist Democracy Or Oligarchy?"

Trick question...  it's a Zio-Thugocracy

Sun, 05/11/2014 - 09:39 | 4747889 messymerry
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Actually, it's a fascist-pluto-thugocracy, of FPT for short...

Sat, 05/10/2014 - 16:54 | 4746745 OC Sure
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Capitalism   =/=  Democracy


The US is Tyranny 'cause, you know, "when a long train of abuses and usurpations pursuing invariably the same object evinces a design to reduce [the citizens] under absolute despotism" then, yeah, we live in Tyranny.

Sat, 05/10/2014 - 17:05 | 4746766 sessinpo
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So we are keeping a list of what she doesn't know? Wouldn't it be easier and shorter to keep a list of what she does know?

Sat, 05/10/2014 - 17:11 | 4746775 spekulatn
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The Man Who Bought the Senate

  What motivated the Democratic Senators to protest the non-action of a body they control on an issue for which they proposed no remedy? Follow the money. In an article entitled "What the Senate's All-Nighter on Climate Change is Really About," the Washington Post (March 10) explained: "Environmental groups spent about $20 million on ads and other activities to help Democrats in 2012 and gave about $742,000 directly to candidates during the cycle, according to the Center for Responsive Politics..." The environmental dollar will be even more important in the 2014 races. For example, the League of Conservation Voters is actively running ads to promote Democratic Senator Brian Schatz of Hawaii in a highly contested race. Schatz was a primary organizer of the speechathon. And, then, there is the one man who bought Congress for a night: the leftwing billionaire businessman and environmentalist Thomas Steyer. He has been called the most influential man in America with whom next to no one is familiar. Steyer reportedly directed more than $11.1 million into two super PACs (political action committees) in order to help Virginia's Democratic Gov. Terry McAuliffe and Senator Ed Markey. - See more at:





Sat, 05/10/2014 - 17:37 | 4746812 nosoeawe
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that carp eyed, cloven hooved, excrement eating, douche bag, asshole is one hell of a cunt!

Sat, 05/10/2014 - 19:41 | 4746952 Tuco Benedicto ...
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I am not a proctologist but I know an asshole when I see one!



Sat, 05/10/2014 - 17:56 | 4746830 Mr. Delicious
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She's of a group that is 2% of the country, but around 40-50% of the billionaires and millionaires.  The head and have headed the Fed, and IRS, and head and have the key positions in treasury.  That group gives around 40 - 50% or more of private political donations to both parties.

The next question [not that Sanders would ask it] after "is the US an oligarchy" is, well, 'who' are the oligarchs?

That's a question we are not allowed to ask or truthfully answer - but you find it in certain magazines where it is couched as "achievement."

Everything from immigration to foreign policy has been very substantially affected - warped even - by that influence, on top of the just general skewing of 'democracy' that happens when the ultra rich, regardless of background, have such an outsized influence in politics.




Sat, 05/10/2014 - 22:12 | 4747308 Dewey Cheatum Howe
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The true owners don't show up on those lists. If you are on those lists you are middle to upper middle management at best. Someone has to handle the daily operations of the empire. It is almost never the owners in any big enough company and the empire is the biggest company of the all.

Sat, 05/10/2014 - 18:05 | 4746843 Seasmoke
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May as just well have this conversation in Hebrew.

Sat, 05/10/2014 - 18:58 | 4746900 Goldenballs
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Total BS from a woman who just is passing the oligarchic buck.Absolutely shameless.

Sat, 05/10/2014 - 19:10 | 4746912 bunnyswanson
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Yellen:  "Our goal is to destroy the financial stability of the USA.  This required a transfer of wealth from the middle class to the upper class.  Closing competitive banks has nearly been complete.  Now, there are just a few things we have to do to tie things up.  Destroy the currency is one of them.  We can say this task has nearly been accomplished.  Then, we will have the IMF come in with shark loans to save small towns and large cities from turning off utilities.  Agenda 21 will assist us in accomplishing the rezoning and sell of the US assets left worth any value at all.  Tax hikes and inflation will put the final stake in the heart of America.  MISSION ACCOMPLISHED.  I am sorry, what was the question?"

Sun, 05/11/2014 - 11:51 | 4748128 Vooter
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"Agenda 21 will assist us in accomplishing the rezoning and sell of the US assets left worth any value at all."

LOL...and who will be buying those assets? Some Chinese guy? Some Russian guy? Whoever it is, I hope they're prepared to guard their new property 24/7 from all the people out there who will be interested in reacquiring said property for FREE...

Sat, 05/10/2014 - 19:13 | 4746917 Freewheelin Franklin
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Bernie the Backstabber



Sure, Bernie. Eliminate the Fed, in favor of neo-Greenbacking

Sat, 05/10/2014 - 19:22 | 4746932 eddiebe
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Is she wearing a gold nugget necklace?

Sat, 05/10/2014 - 20:50 | 4747078 I Write Code
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I say give her a medal. 

Would that she refused to answer other questions that are none of her damn business.

Sat, 05/10/2014 - 21:02 | 4747111 Milton Waddams
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The sick joke is if you're a bankster and you want at the juicy Federal Reserve fiat you have to fuck Janet, raw dog, until she climaxes. And then make her breakfast. Fact.

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