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89% Of Donetsk Voters Pick Independence From Kiev; Ukraine Prepared To Fight To Defend Territory

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The east Ukraine referendum is over, and as widely expected, the vast majority have picked independence. From AFP's Marc Burleigh:

RIA adds that according to Ukraine rebels, the final turnout in the Donetsk vote was 74.87%.

Some comments from those voting for independence:

We are Russian. Of course we hope to be united with Russia," declared another early morning voter, 55-year-old businesswoman Galina.


"I voted against the Nazis in Kiev, which are supported by the U.S. and Europe. I voted for an independent Donbass," said the 63-year-old, referring to a largely pro-independence region in eastern Ukraine.

Here is Europe:

"What is happening in Donetsk and Lugansk does not make any sense," said French president Francois Hollande


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"Figures from fake referendums in Eastern Ukraine likely to be fake" Swedish Foreign Minister Carl Bildt says on his Twitter account.

As for the Ukraine response, that too was in line with expectations:

"This is a step into the abyss for the regions," Oleksandr Turchynov said in comments posted on the presidential website Saturday.




Acting chief of the Ukrainian presidential administration Sergiy Pashinski said: "The turnout throughout the whole region amounts to zero as far as formalities are concerned.



"I would like to underline one more time it's not a referendum. It is a desultory attempt by terrorists, bandits and killers to cover their activity by having citizens vote in Luhansk and Donetsk."

But most concerning is the following: "Ukraine’s army is ready to fight back should Russia attack it after referendums in Ukrainian eastern regions are completed, BBC reports, citing Head of Defense and Security Council Andriy Parubiy as saying in interview. Should Russia recognize referendums and take active steps against its neighbor, “I reiterate once again that Ukraine will defend its territory."

And since the Donetsk republic is now officially independent, if only in its and Putin's eyes, thereby giving Russia a green light to arrive and "keep the peace", the next and far more violent escalation in the Ukraine conflict now appears inevitable.

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Sun, 05/11/2014 - 17:02 | 4748821 Devotional
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the EU does NOT recognise this referendum. I repeat, the EU does NOT recognise this referendum or any OTHER referendum - even EU referendums. The EU is an awesome democratic super state. got it? capische? Referendums are anti democratic. All hail the EU, bitchez.


Sun, 05/11/2014 - 17:04 | 4748829 Troll Magnet
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Fuck the EU. Time for a Mossad operation in E. Ukraine. Say hello to Israel, Russian bitchez!

Sun, 05/11/2014 - 17:05 | 4748838 Devotional
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No, the EU fucks you.

Sun, 05/11/2014 - 17:28 | 4748872 ZerOhead
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"I reiterate once again that Ukraine will defend its territory."


As we all agree that the Ukraine should.

Unfortunately for the neoNazis and fascist thugs that just no longer includes Crimea and parts of the East.

The silver lining however is that they now have fewer voters who will vote against the Nazi/Fascist/Nationalist/IMF/Obama-sanctioned thug-run government currently in charge.

I think we can safely call this a Win/Win.

Sun, 05/11/2014 - 17:31 | 4748900 kliguy38
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I think we can safely say the "real" end game is about to go hot......and that should cover the supercycle debt implosion very nicely

Sun, 05/11/2014 - 18:07 | 4748918 ZerOhead
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Nope... the global elite do not like it when their precious downwind assets get irradiated or otherwise destroyed.

You are about to witness what an Obama (or whoever else is in front of the teleprompter) NeoCon government will eventually do to it's own citizens if they fail to obey. It won't be pretty and Putin will almost certainly do nothing to stop it.

Obama owns whatever happens next.

Sun, 05/11/2014 - 18:37 | 4749052 Gaius Frakkin' ...
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"Acting chief of the Ukrainian presidential administration Sergiy Pashinski said: "The turnout throughout the whole region amounts to zero as far as formalities are concerned."

Of course... because your formalities don't include voting, which is why you're in power. Tell us something we don't know Sergay.

Sun, 05/11/2014 - 18:54 | 4749099 spine001
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Despite a large majority of British citizens and parliament wanting a referendum on wether to stay in the EU. Several years have passed and they are still waiting for the opportunity to vote. That spells it out like nothing else that we don't live in a Democracy. 

Sun, 05/11/2014 - 19:24 | 4749174 tmosley
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So you're telling me people would rather go with Putin than get murdered by insane thugs?

Sun, 05/11/2014 - 22:51 | 4749693 strannick
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Ukrainians fighting for the IMF and Fascist Oligarchs that exploit them. Fighting for the right to take on unpayable IMF debt and society killing austerity. Fighting against subsidized Russian oil. This is the opposite of biting the hand that feeds you. Its polishing the jackboot of the foot that kicks you in the balls.

Sun, 05/11/2014 - 23:21 | 4749760 buyingsterling
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spot on

Mon, 05/12/2014 - 03:00 | 4750034 Lore
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Only good things come from the EU.  My local newspaper says so.

Mon, 05/12/2014 - 01:27 | 4749934 yatikto
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Something like this?






Sun, 05/11/2014 - 18:33 | 4748922 TahoeBilly2012
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When the US lie machine hits new lows...be concerned at home.

Sun, 05/11/2014 - 19:56 | 4749284 Vampyroteuthis ...
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Do you think our gay military is realy going to put up a good fight against the Russians? The MIC low is here and here to stay a while.


Sun, 05/11/2014 - 17:34 | 4748910 Pure Evil
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Well, I guess now the ball's in Putin's court.

Gonna be a delicate tightrope walk on this one.

Don't believe it'll be as easy as Crimea.

For one, larger land mass.

Can it be done?   

Yes, but at the expense of how many dead people.

Sun, 05/11/2014 - 18:11 | 4748995 giggler321
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It'll cost Putin to bring them into the Russian Federation, is the price worth it since they got Crimea?  Easiest way to ensure unity is to cut the fuel off and see who stand's with team IMF/EU, then let them sort it out with some kind of proxy war internally.

Let's face it, the EU would not recognise anything that was not in their interest.  Ofcourse it might help to hear at this time from China, if they recognise it, that would be harder for the EU which is trying to be China friendly, to then say no.

Sun, 05/11/2014 - 18:30 | 4749030 knukles
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Can it be done?
Well, heavens!
The people have voted, counted fair and square by Mr Dieboldski and they want to be part of the New Glorious Soviet.
Vlad the Impaler of Hopes and Dreams will thence move to protect those Self Appointed, Newly Recognized Soviet Subjects.
To which Fuck All Nobody is Going to Fight Seriously.

Well, maybe Opie will make a speech threatening paralyzing boycotts or whatever, the EU will wring its hands loudly while swinging and swaying to the bearded transvestite artiste who it was known before it even sang was going to win the horseshit waste of EuroVision in the interest of diversity and allthatkindashit and nobody else gives a rats ass.. other than the Rothschilds, Warburgs, IMF et al...

Sun, 05/11/2014 - 18:33 | 4749045 Dublinmick
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I understand they used paper ballots knucklehead and not the Israeli made Diebold machines knucklhead.

Sun, 05/11/2014 - 18:47 | 4749088 knukles
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I understand that.  Mr Diebold was an analogy for it matters not how they voted... what matters is who counted the votes...

Sun, 05/11/2014 - 20:30 | 4749378 Blammo
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Hard to imagine an 89% (near unanimous) vote on anything.

Do you like ice cream?

Maybe if the lactose intolerant abstain!

Sun, 05/11/2014 - 20:44 | 4749412 Pure Evil
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At least 89% of the vote that went to Obama was real.

The rest were dead people, those that voted more than once, and probably a good majority of the dog population in all the libtard population centers.

Sun, 05/11/2014 - 21:29 | 4749530 BlindMonkey
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Mr Evil.  My dog is perfectly capable of deciding for himself. In the last presidential election, he decided to abstain and lick his balls rather than come with me to the polling station.

Given the benefit of hindsight, I should have taken his lead. 

Sun, 05/11/2014 - 22:57 | 4749724 StychoKiller
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Personally, I don't think you should lick yer dog, 'nads or otherwise! :>D

Sun, 05/11/2014 - 23:24 | 4749766 TheMeatTrapper
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"Hard to imagine an 89% (near unanimous) vote on anything."

Come to Alabama. Have a vote on Obamacare. Let the blacks vote in one election and the whites vote in another. 

You will have two elections each having an 89% vote. One for, one against.

It's pretty obvious that the Ukraine needs to separate and go their separate ways. 

Of course, just like Lincoln would not allow the South to go their own way, the IMF will not allow the east Ukraine to go it's own way.

Sun, 05/11/2014 - 19:45 | 4749243 Mine Is Bigger
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I really don't think Putin is interested in absorbing East Ukraine.  The way it is going, the Kiev regime will probably lose the support of the rest of the country soon enough.  I think sending troops to fire upon its own citizens who haven't done any harm to anyone is unacceptable to all Ukrainians, except for a small number of criminals and psychos. 

Sun, 05/11/2014 - 21:14 | 4749494 Pure Evil
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Keep the White House, the State Department, and all their sycophant retards, McCain, Graham, et al, out of it.

Sun, 05/11/2014 - 20:27 | 4749364 mccvilb
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"Yes, but at the expense of how many dead people."


At the very least 400 for sure.

Sun, 05/11/2014 - 17:37 | 4748919 DogOfSinope
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Based on what happened in Crimea:

"I reiterate once again that Ukraine will defend its territory! ;-)"

(wink, wink, giggle, snort)

Sun, 05/11/2014 - 17:08 | 4748846 max2205
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So.....They stay in the Ukraine

Sun, 05/11/2014 - 18:04 | 4748967 Boogity
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 Hell, Mossad can't even handle Palestinain teenage boys using 30 year old rebuilt AK-47's and IED's made out of used cell phone parts.  The Speznaz will make short work of them .   

Sun, 05/11/2014 - 18:12 | 4748999 yochananmichael
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and why would mossad support the nazis of western Ukraine?

Sun, 05/11/2014 - 22:59 | 4749727 StychoKiller
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Politics makes extremely strange bedfellows!

Sun, 05/11/2014 - 17:05 | 4748837 Max Damage
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Every time the EU has lost a referendum, they had another until they got the result. And then they took over. The EU is a cancer that needs cutting out for the sake of those who live in it. I hate the EU and its powermad socialist shitheads that run it

Sun, 05/11/2014 - 18:36 | 4749056 Amish Hacker
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Kind of like election results in Florida?

Sun, 05/11/2014 - 17:08 | 4748844 lolmao500
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The EU. LOL. Remember how it was built? Yeah NO VOTING FOR YOU!! YOU JOIN BY FORCE!! And if by some miracle some countries were allowed to vote... well... YOU VOTE TILL YOU JOIN!! 

Sun, 05/11/2014 - 17:55 | 4748949 BurningFuld
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Well, you don't join Russia. Russia joins you.

Sun, 05/11/2014 - 23:28 | 4749775 buyingsterling
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If Russia had wreaked a fraction of the damage to our allies that American foreign policy has done to Russia's allies and friends, the neocons would have long ago urged a nuclear strike.

Sun, 05/11/2014 - 17:32 | 4748902 LetThemEatRand
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"the EU does NOT recognise this referendum."

Silly rabbit.  Elections are for ___.

Sun, 05/11/2014 - 17:50 | 4748941 FreeSlave
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Ukrainian solders shooting at civilians at the entrance of voting facility.

here is one of them... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MOg4e7pLJus one young man gets killed, and some injured...

one more:  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lsXyP4uGb5A

one more injured at 8 minute 20th second, and one killed at 12:41... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lLWGkVRh1MQ

Sun, 05/11/2014 - 18:16 | 4749008 sushi
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“It is regrettable that separatists who are causing so much disruption to the lives of ordinary citizens are going ahead with their illegitimate, so-called referendum today," a U.K. Foreign Office spokesman said. "All Ukrainians will have a proper opportunity to express their democratic choice in the forthcoming presidential elections on 25 May. The focus must be on ensuring that free and fair elections can go ahead in a calm and stable environment."


So the UK views it as "regrettable" that the people of Ukraine are invoking their democratic will but the UK does not view as regrettable the fact that the USSA acted to promote the overthrow of a duly elected Ukrainian govt they did not like, and that the members of the EU have also participated in this coup though a failure to condemn it. In fact they recognized the oligarchs who managed the coup but refuse to acknolwedge the democratic will of the people.

Shows the degree of contempt the leaders of western "democracies" have for their electorate and for the democratic process.




Sun, 05/11/2014 - 18:33 | 4749046 knukles
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MI6 was more than a little active here, too, don't forget.

Sun, 05/11/2014 - 21:34 | 4749550 BlindMonkey
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I have only seen info on US involvement.  Please support your claim with a source.  Gracias

Sun, 05/11/2014 - 23:24 | 4749765 American Dreams
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First things first.  Kill the messenger, new ones will be harder to find.



Mon, 05/12/2014 - 01:32 | 4749937 yatikto
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Ukraine sends in army and treats them as foreigners.

So, suprise, surprise they don't want to be a part of Ukraine.


color me shocked.


Sun, 05/11/2014 - 18:28 | 4749032 Millivanilli
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The European Commission is a permanent unelected body of 17 people appointed by national Governments for 5 years or more. Responsible for most EU law, which passes directly into UK law, the Commission is aided by an army unelected officials (a sort of 'Uncivil Service'). The UK Parliament is helpless to amend or reject any of it. Such law is secretly made behind closed doors. The Commission President has a virtual veto over who becomes a Commissioner and provides "political guidance" to all Commissioners.

President Von Rumpuy... Unelected.
Sun, 05/11/2014 - 18:32 | 4749042 Volkodav
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awe some is not how I would describe eu/europe...


more like lost...




Sun, 05/11/2014 - 18:35 | 4749050 knukles
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"It" won before the contest even began ....
What could be more inclusive than a bearded tranny winning a display of cultural "vision" ...

Sun, 05/11/2014 - 23:28 | 4749776 TheMeatTrapper
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Don't forget that the NFL has now drafted a black homosexual who kissed his white boyfriend on national TV. 

The American people don't deserve what is coming - they deserve worse. They are the enablers. 

Sun, 05/11/2014 - 19:24 | 4749176 zerocash
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I am Dutch and I voted NO in a referendum that was deemed illegal by the EU in 2005. The referendum about the EU Constitution. Thankfully the Dutch Government rejected the results of the referendum (most voters were overwhelmingly against accepting the EU Constitition) and pushed for the Treaty of Lisbon the next year (which had nearly the exact same text as the proposed EU Constition). I have since seen the errors of my ways. Hallowed are the Eurocrats!

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