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Caught On Tape: Ukrainian National Guardsmen Shooting At Crowd In East Ukraine Referendum Town
With the referendum vote largely concluded in most east Ukraine regions, it was virtually inevitable that the day would end without some provocation. And, as expected, moments ago CBS reported that "Ukrainian national guardsmen opened fire Sunday on a crowd outside a town hall in eastern Ukraine and an official for the region's insurgents said there were fatalities."
The details:
The bloodshed in the town of Krasnoarmeisk occurred hours after dozens of guardsmen shut down voting in a referendum on sovereignty for the region.
An Associated Press photographer who witnessed the shooting said two people were seen lying unmoving on the ground and insurgent leader Denis Pushilin was quoted by the ITAR-Tass news agency as saying there were an unspecified number of deaths.
Several hours earlier, guardsmen came to the town about 20 miles from the regional capital, Donetsk, and dispersed referendum voting that was taking place outside the town hall and they took control of the building. In the evening, more guardsmen arrived in a van and a scuffle broke out with people who were gathered around the building. Then the guardsmen fired shots.
And the incident caught on tape: the man in the blue sweater appears to be hit in the foot by a stray bullet fired by Ukrainian troops as the try to disperse the crowed in Krasnoarmeisk.
The incident from a different perspective.
And a third angle, showing the second person hit by stray assault rifle fire:
Finally, a compilation of what happened based on all available video clips:
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Sad day.
Considering that the central authorities are resorting to untrained goons since the police and army can't be trusted to follow orders, should any one be shocked at this set of referendums? For me, and I could be wrong, but these are the ultimate acts of no confidence in the Ukrainian political system.
Of course, the thugs that replaced the last set of thugs in Kiev were never about improving things but merely to take control and have their own payday.
It's not smart approaching armed guys aggressively unarmed.
Picture on RT showed a teenage boy shot in the back.
Must have been approaching backwards I suppose.
One miilitia man was wearing sneakers.
So where did they get all those nice shiny new AK-47's?
Although the close up of the casing looked like it had been sitting around growing moldy for a number of years.
Ya know, when a brass casing is made it looks all shiny and new, after a few years of sitting around it develops a patina on the surface.
(Patina is a thin layer that forms on the surface of stone ; copper, bronze and similar metals (tarnish produced by oxidation or other chemical processes)
God bless America
Obama is laughing at this, still unaware that he will burn in hell when justice will be served. And Bernanke, Yellen, f.ck you too!
There is no justice, no hell, no Robin Hoods, no messiahs. Obama will die and disappear forever after a life lived to his heart's content. Can you say the same about yourself?
Did anyone actually see anyone get shot? I missed it if it happened.
The first vid is pulled, but you could see the guy jerk backward. More iwll be uploaded. Look at all the cell phones and cams.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OGPD0ZBiMs0
Not if it is packed well. I have opened 1200 round cans of 7,62x54R that were OLD and the rounds came out perfect.
Pure Evil: Russian ammo looks "moldy" cause it is STEEL CASED and their military ammo uses "corrosive" Berdan (two hole) primers that last for centuries in a sealed steel "Spam can"
I say "corrosive" in quotes cause the primer residue is really just a salt that speeds rusting if not washed out with plain water (and forget the Windex)
And "nice shiny new AK-47s" were probably stored in some old salt mine packed in Cosmoline for the past 50 years ready to get up and go after a good cleaning.
And that's a horrible thing to do to unarmed civilians and those shooters must be charged with war crimes IMO. They're no different than the Nazis and prove Putin is right saying his concern is for the protection of ethnic Russians in Ukraine.
There are many non-letal weapons the Ukraine forces could use to disperse such crowds. An AK-47 firing 124 grain 7.62x39 bullets is not one on them!
most eastern bloc and chinese ak ammo has a green clear lacquered steel case.
Russian/Eastern Bloc ammo is typically steel cased (brass is too expensive). It tends to be gray-blue or grey-green in color even when new.
Where did they get those shiney AKs? Why on E Bay of course. Guy in Crimea who was in a balaclava said his fishing buddies all got together and got armored personnel carriers, VKS silenced sniper rifles, digital uniforms, rocket launchers, surface to air missiles from a site on E Bay located in Russia, Good prices and quick delivery. A guy is working up a price for me on an Iskander missile. Going to lob one of those on to a guy's boat who is stealing my fishing traps.
Yeah, it's usually better to just let your rights be trampled and have an illegal government tell you what to do.
Yeah, kinda like the British infantry marching across No Man's Land while facing an angry horde of german machine gun bullets at the Battle of the Somme.
Other than the fact that they had the ability to fire back with their bolt action rifles.
That worked out real well.
(What I mean is, human bodies don't stand up well to rapid burts of high powered rounds exiting the ends of gun barrels.)
Using their violence against them is sometimes the most effective weapon. Like Gandhi's "Salt March" showed when the Brits beat the marchers with canes.
Could you resist the vast amounts of dollars that Nuland had at her disposal? Most couldn't , human nature being what it is.
some videos are no longer available... here is one of them... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MOg4e7pLJus one young man gets killed, and some injured...
one more: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lsXyP4uGb5A
one more injured at 8 minute 20th second, and one killed at 12:41... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lLWGkVRh1MQ
In the last video link you posted I could be wrong but it appeared to me that the one guy grabbed the barrel of the gun and yanked on it and it discharged.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lLWGkVRh1MQ
Watch it and see what you think. This maybe an accidental discharge, not saying anyone was in the right or wrong. This is being reported as mercs firing randomly on unarmed civilians, all the other videos I have seen they are shooting over their heads, could this event start a war, or turn the tide of public opinion against one group? Sure it can, conflicts have started for less, look at the Hatfields and Macoys, all those people dead over a stolen pig...
To bad the crowd wasn't Tea Party people. U know, NRA members, people that still believe in LIBERTY , that bunch
America's heros spreading freedom and prosperity to these ungrateful people. Make no mistake, these gunmen are paid with our tax money and armed with our tax money. Obama and Nuland meet to plan more money for these gun men. Nuleand is covered in blood and so is Obama. That they can hire thug killers and then send then in to murder, while western media lies and cheers them on. Yes, this is what America has sunk to under Neo-Con rule. But this is nothing, unlike America's Al-Qaeda forces in Syria, these Ukrainian nazis have not yet begun to eat organs. That is coming soon. America now has white people shot down in their own streets just like they used to do to brown people, but now they even kill whites. If you refuse to take ordes from Washington DC, you will be killed, some Americans already know that fact, now Ukrainian Federalists know it too.
The Noble Peace Prize winner is funding this killing.
Merely some more collateral damage in the global war on terror. I wish those terrorists would arm them selves so we could send in the drones and not rely on those blackwater/xe/academi mercenaries.
those goddamn terrorists keep filming instead of shooting back.
Ukraine no more.
What are Carney or Psaki going to say about this?
"Stop hitting me"
"Dont bury me, im not dead"
Bring_out_your_dead.
What Carney, Psaki or Hegel say about millions of eastern Ukraine voters - says everything about the declarers, and absolutely nothing about the voters.
If I were Putin I would send in the cossacks.
My cousins are more than ready. Alas, I am to old to play. The heart is willing, but alas, the flesh sucks.
Ready to beat up girl band or kill the jews like in the good old days?
One a collection of useful idiots engaging in acts of deliberate provocation. The other a collection of vile MISNOMERED* filth who have no problem lying, cheating, stealing, and corrupting mind and spirits.
* your tired old canard is well-worn. the "jews" to whom you refer are usurpers; hijackers of a religion and perverters of the term 'semite'. My dog has more semitic DNA than 99% of them. Nevermind your broad-brushed delusion; there were "jews" amongst the cossacks.
Burn in hell CHEMYSTICALnytsky.
Truth is a criminal offense to you as well I see.
Hitler also had a "truth". Is that the one you're referring to?
Guessing history was not your A level course there special sauce. Your masters have programmed you well, like most I might add.
Know your enemy
AD
I never delved too much into Jewish conspiracy stuff because the few I'm acquainted with seem nice enough and don't own banks or plot world domination.
Genuinely curious when you say that there are Jews and non Jewish-Jews. Are there different levels of Jewdom depending upon the ratio of semitic blood you have?
You could have Googled the answer to your question:
DELVE_THEN
I'm a contrarian and never "Google" anything, I much prefer to "Bing" things because I find it a more aesthetically pleasing verb. "I Binged the fuck outta that" See? Rolls off the tongue like silk.
That being said I appreciate the link (no matter your poor choice in search engines ;-) interesting stuff.
Go fuck your patronizing self.
You don't know me and you don't know what I know or don't.
In good old days they were killing the jew killers - all the way from Stalingrad to Berlin, liberating Auschwitz (from Ukrainian guards) as they went. BTW, this is pretty much what would they be doing in Ukraine today, too - if the hell break loose.
About the "girl band"... Well, desecrating an religious object is such a distasteful and chauvinist act (isn't religious freedom a cornerstone of democracy?) that being slapped in the face is both expected and deserved. Public reaction (and potential action of some insulted "member of public") wouldn't be any different if those misguided attention seeking idiots performed their "act" in St. Peter's or Notre Damme.
Get your facts right. Go back to your local NSA lair for some fresh trolling instructions.
Ahh. The good old days of Jew killing. It was a warm summer morning when I bagged my first. My dad, in order to make sure I had the appropriate reverence for the moment, made me drink a cup of the Jew's blood. I didn't like it at first but I understood. I really did. I understood the awesomeness of the moment. /s
Fucktard.
Cossacks? Do you mean Khazaks? Is that like Khazars?
No.
Uhm, this is old news. They are there already.
"Guns don't kill people, mostly people in uniform do."
kchrisc
True that. As Larken Rose would say, the "most dangerous superstition" is that some people have "authority" over other people. It's a religion or cult.
Guns don't kill people. Rabbits do...
Actually, it's the bullets that kill people.
Now that we've got that straightened out, back to The Killing Fields.
Guns don't kill people.
But, hipothetically (for the sake of this thought experiment), if you would give a loaded automatic weapon to a chimp and he starts spraying around and kill some people, it would be gun that kills people. A chimp without a gun is still rather dangerous and unpredictable beast, but way less leathal than with a gun.
Finally, to be absolutelly intelectually honest, in the thought experiment above the one who kills people is the one who gave a gun to a chimp. ;-)
I resent that remark! :)
Fucking thugs. Now can all the STOOOOPID Americans see WHY the people MUST BE ARMED!!????? Soon those will be the DHS, TSA, Cops, FBI etc doing this to the American people. WE MUST ARM OURSELVES and FIRE on them first.
hangemhigh77
So this time it's Blackwater dispatched to Ukraine. Next time they will be dispatched to Keene, New Hampshire to snipe at peaceful festival-goers.
http://beforeitsnews.com/strange/2013/10/keene-nh-pumpkin-fest-snipers-d...
I love where this is all going. Bring it on.
The American people really need to realize that a choice is coming whether they like it or not: They can wither away in poverty and misery with everyday a fight to just survive or fight to take back the county, the American country, from these treasonous criminals and murderers.
The choice is coming: Persecution or Revolution.
The Four Rs
Rejection: Quit paying, quit obeying, quit playing
Revolution: It is inevitable, so prepare, as they are.
Retribution: The guilty must answer for their crimes against the American people and the Constitution.
Restoration: Restore the Constitutional republic.
"WE MUST ARM OURSELVES and FIRE on them first."
Amen; borrowing from their pre-emptive doctrine. Beats the slow boil.
The problem is that I don't want to be the first, and they know that. Thus the well-coordinated efforts to keep I's from coalescing into "we".
Exactly! These videos need to be studied by Americans because this scenario is coming to American cities soon. I don't plan to be out there with only rocks and sticks either.
Should have firebombed the building once those scumbags fled into it.
AG Eric Holder and POSident Barack Oblowhard would never stand for such behavior here ... unless those firing the guns and harrassing voters were black panthers.
Bingo.
Let this remind braindead Americans what the 2nd Amendment is for...
But both parties are the same!
"...it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such government..."
chad johnson of team usa
noah goldburgler of the mossad squad
and charles whoretree of citi rothschild london brig gays boys
Caught On Tape: Shooting At Crowd In East Ukraine Referendum Townfixed it for ya
Yes, how dare they do something so violent like voting, an act which can only legitimately be countered by gunning them down. Does the US even recognize the insanity they are aligned with?
The people whish to express their opinions at the ballot box. Well, kill them. Sounds like what some deranged African tribal leader would do. Oh wait....
"Does the US even recognize the insanity they are aligned with?"
Please reference "Waco, 1993, Davidians."
You can start with the Ruby Ridge documentary and work your way to Waco. Shows the mentality and how it seemed to evolve into more brazen criminality on the part of the FBI/ATF.
Waco The Big Lie. A real eye opener to a somnabulistic people.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-wUucANBY_8
FBI sniper Lon Horiuchi was at both Waco and Ruby Ridge. In fact he's the one who murdered Vicki Weaver. And now he's collecting a pension; you pay psychopaths to murder you.
Horiuchi was busted for lying during testimony. He was nonetheless acquitted. Uncle Sam payed the survivors in an out-of-court settlement but admitted no wrongdoing.
Re Waco, a fellow sniper recanted his previous statements as to Horiuchi's actions in firing upon the Branch Davidians.
Somnambulistic public indeed. They won't wake up to Waco though. It will take a direct removal of the FSA benefits to get people out of their sleep. I don't see any other way.
Voting, as in this type of "election"???
http://www.forbes.com/sites/paulroderickgregory/2014/05/05/putins-human-...
Right... So, all Crimeans are in riot now...
What's funny is, all this comes from the MSM of a country where one can come second in election and still become president. :-P
ObamaRepression, why have you been pimping lies today about the Crimean referendum?
International observers said the referendum was fair and voter turnout was high.
http://rt.com/news/international-observers-crimea-referendum-190/
Why do you lie?
So... in your twisted little head, if 15% are for and 85% are against... well, based on the low ranges of a limited survey. Those 85% must be out in the streets and spilling blood... oh wait, they're not. Bullshit walks apparently.
Meanwhile, the US seems happy with about a 50% turnout and that good old 51/49 victory. So congrats on that 25% mandate and numerous other unelected powerbrokers... not even taking into consideration that everyone elected is also corrupt as shit and choices are determined ahead of time by a handful of people with vested interests.
"Does the US even recognize the insanity they are aligned with?"
Soldiers at polling places during a secession vote? How Lincoln-esque :(
And all American know what Federal action followed those votes.
Now that's balls. Walking in on a goon firing an AK.
Nobody runs, just screams and swears. It's hard to impress Russians even shooting at them.
Only the weak are cruel
That is why they retreat into the building. Armed cowards.
HOW MANY CITIES IN THE USSA WERE THE SO CALLED MILITARIZED SWAT TEAMS SHOOTING AT INDIVIDUALS, LAST NIGHT?
nevermind...
Moore, OK
1. Albuquerque
Here is "National Guard" right sector types and useful idiots accepting pay and bus ride
cos there is not military but a few thousand not switched sides, awol, call in sick, etc...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0FF03oC5zno
I have to say ... the courage of the east Ukrainians (aka New Russians) is incredible and impressive, the way they just walk up to those Kiev gun-toting thugs and challenge them, and how they don't even flinch when the bullet fly.
By the same token, I had to think how a US cop would react if someone did that. US cops wouldn't think twice about blowing off your head and, should you survive that, clubbing what's left of your life out of your body while their buddies laugh and taze your quivering corpse.
I felt threatened, i was afraid.
That's kinda of why I believe the whole thing was orchestrated.
Except of course the guy getting shot in the foot, which was probably unintentional.
The fact that the guy got shot and no one was running away, and then it seemed the thugs ran indoors so as to let other protestors help the shot guy, and the one running around the outskirts looked as if he was the director with his clipboard.
Maybe the Ukrainian Russians are starting to pump out their own propaganda or I'm getting too jaded.
Possibly at the direction of a former KGB guy in Russia?? hhmmm
Who knows.
The whole thing is beginning to look scripted.
If you ask me, both sides have agreed to split Ukraine up.
Everything else is Kabuki theater.
Yeah, real people are dying.
But, the only one's getting the shaft are the Ukrainian people.
Their nation is being destroyed. Just pawns in the great game.
It would be nice if both sides just left the Ukrainians alone.
But, the world just doesn't turn that way.
In Russia we don't give a damn even about much brighter fire.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pdrw30P4odY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f525TmMSBs0
So the Kiev "authorities" just sat idly by, while the pro-Russian side cordoned off an entire building and the surrounding area to orchestrate this in broad daylight?
yeah ok...
I had a talk the other day with a uniformed DC US gun and badge thug. I reminded him of his oath and of Article 3, Section 3. He puffed out his chest in defiance and asked what my point was. I told him that he and his family live amongst us. The shitty smirk on his face quickly faded from view.
"Remember, remember, the oath breakers."
Your lucky he didn't take that as a domestic terroristic threat and either abuse you or have you arrested.
Much less call in his thuggy friends and have you tased and beaten to a pulp.
You must be white
Russians are not scared of much
Forex Kong who's been short Japan for weeks ( sighting that Japan will lead us down ) now initiated short SP 500 as of Friday close ( with continued views that what's happening in Ukraine will be the catalyst ) as seen via currency movement.
This guy convers currencies like a mad man....and has now launched a premium members service, with 952 pips in profit "before" SP even rolls over.
Open your eyes people of America - the turn is upon you.
The real time calls are nuts http://www.forexkong.net
Little Rock Nine
The Little Rock Nine were the nine African-American students involved in the desegregation of Little Rock Central High School. Their entrance into the school in 1957 sparked a nationwide crisis when Arkansas governor Orval Faubus, in defiance of a federal court order, called out the Arkansas National Guard to prevent the Nine from entering.
President Dwight D. Eisenhower responded by federalizing the National Guard and sending in units of the U.S. Army’s 101st Airborne Division to escort the Nine into the school on September 25, 1957. The military presence remained for the duration of the school year.
http://www.encyclopediaofarkansas.net/encyclopedia/entry-detail.aspx?entryID=723
Undoubtedly, the government in Kiev will blame Russia somehow.
I was pondering just how our piece of shit pres0 would explain this away.
Fucking brave Ukrainians
I got stuck on the See BS (CBS) references.
No uniforms. How do we know what side they're on?
How do you seperate "Ukranian National guards from Russian non-uniformed troops?
Got to admit when those fuckers say 'polling station closed" there not fucking around
not worth voting anyhow, outcome is known and disputed by western gov's
fortunately the people there are smarter than you...
what part of Kyiv threats do you not understand?
The "non uniform Russian troops" will be the ones alive at the end of this!!!
The dead ones will be from Kiev, EU, and the US!
Put Nuland in front of the gun, if they shoot, you got yer answer!
Amazing to watch how calm most of the locals are when shots are fired.
If that happened in a US city, people would run like hell.
Russians can be very clever
and not scared of much
besides resist actions by tyrants now and avoid further depradations
You separate them by their actions.
This is just the next move in Putin's plan, as he now has the legitimate will of the people. Next he will get something in place to annex Eastern Ukraine, while the West sits back and watches. The real game starts when the Russian Army moves in to protect the East Ukrainians - I expect the mercs to run, so it will be up to the Ukrainian military and these national guardsmen as to whether they surrender or get overrun. I do not expect the NATO planes or troops to do anything, as Ukraine in not technically a NATO country.
I do not think "annex" is right term. Crimea removed themselves, and requested to "join" Russian Federation. Russia considered and allowed.
Annex more implies taking without rights of occupants.
Nevertheless, it is hard to imagine a scenario where Russian troops are NOT providing security in th East at the end of the week.
You have to think that the Russians have mapped out their targeting plan. And that retribution will be swift.
Voting is an act of treason against the United States. Only the USA can decide where and when elections are held, everyone should know this. Clear the streets, the USA will inform you when it is time to vote for one of two hand picked candidates. Acts of the terrorist voting gangs in East Ukraine will not go unpunished. American patriots should stand with the free peoples of Kiev and arrest those trying to vote, after all, it is freedom we are talking about.
youtube, as really pro-russian service is blocking anti-russian video
1st inning, unfortunately
Every day, the US-controlled/funded Nazi Kiev regime does something stupid and turns the people more against them.
They can't help it, they are enjoying themselves too much... getting giddy and drunk on the power trip we are feeding them, and being pathological types, for them there really isn't any tomorrow, so live it up today... sort of like a frat house party paid for by your alumni.... older psychos drunk on that ole 'king of the world' routine. Of course, it will turn the people against them, those not pathologically oriented themselves... yet... here in the States, we've been under pathological training for quite some time... the 'dumbing down' routine, the acceptance of wrong as right... bizarro world in short... in which psychos rule the world, until they are no longer needed of course, but by then, the MC programs will be activated and the real party will start... enter Mother Nature stage south.
that the United States and Europe should be even mentioned in the same breath as the thugs that shot at and killed people at a peaceful assembly of citizens apparently organizing to self determine their political and economic alignment is completely *revolting*.
Maybe Michelle Obama or Elllen can hold up a twitter sign. That surely will stop the violence
My vote is on Ellen
Don't give up your guns.
When voting doesn't matter anymore, you'll still get a vote.
Oh wait...
Amateurs with guns. Like kids with matches. They are going to burn the house down and perish in the fire, too.