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East Ukraine's Donetsk Declares Itself Sovereign: Asks Putin To "Consider Absorption" Of Newly Independent State

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Just as we predicted last week, Crimea 2.0 is officially here.


While Putin has not yet confirmed it will, begrudgingly, annex Donetsk as a reminder earlier today the Kremlin said it "respects" the independence vote and calls for a "civilized implementation." And what could be more civilized than annexing two regions of Ukraine in under two months without firing a single shot?

Here is the official announcement by Donetsk leader Denis Pushilin:

As a reminder from last week:

Look no further than the Crimea case study:

  1. Donetsk declares independence
  2. Kiev, the west and NATO condemn the results, sternly refuse to accept the outcome, and issue more sanctions against Russian politicians and oligarchs
  3. Newly "independent" Donetsk requests military support from friendly Russia to defend its population, and the Russian tanks roll across the border

And as other regions in east and south Ukraine follow in the Donetsk' footsteps, assuring Russia a land connection to Crimea and cutting off Kiev from the Donbas industrial zones and the Slavyansk shale gas, Putin wins again.


In the meantime, while we await Russia's latest bearhug embrace of a formerly Ukrainian territory, here is Gazprom's take:


It is amazing what one can achieve when one has all the commodity leverage.


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Mon, 05/12/2014 - 10:33 | 4750658 Slave
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Bathhouse - 0

Putin - I can't count that high

Mon, 05/12/2014 - 10:44 | 4750674 ilion
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This thing doesn't even surprise anyone.

I have to admit that if this all was pre-planned months ago by comrade Putin then this guy is really something. If he did do good things instead of bad then we could really live in paradise. Of course bad guys rarely turn into good guys. 

Mon, 05/12/2014 - 10:52 | 4750725 RetiredSilverBug
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More people joining Russia is a good thing :)

Mon, 05/12/2014 - 10:55 | 4750733 lordylord
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These people are trading one set of chains for another.  Next time have a vote to rule over yourselves. 

Mon, 05/12/2014 - 10:59 | 4750754 Joe Davola
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The "self's" we get to chose from this fall (and 2016) aren't exactly selling points for that self rule thing.

Mon, 05/12/2014 - 11:08 | 4750805 Oh regional Indian
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It's okay Joe, the world is going from self rule to selfie rule.

No one but a few apparantly give a rat's ass or a bee's sting anymore.

Pretty soon, it will be bongs galore, damn the day's troubles. World over, they just  need some time to get the mad-making strains everywhere.

Legal, GMO'd stuff.

Huxley wins.

Orwell wins.

What a win-win situation this is....


Mon, 05/12/2014 - 11:18 | 4750845 Manthong
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According to NWO types, this self-determination thing is not all that it is cracked up to be and must be stopped before things get out of control.

Mon, 05/12/2014 - 11:47 | 4750957 Patriot Eke
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I strongly believe in and seek to further individual liberty, and I wouldn't want to be a puppet to either side.  However, when given the choice between the two there, it's a no brainer to go with Russia's oligarchs instead of the West's.  It's hard to further liberty when you're on the losing side of a global war after all.  /sarc...maybe

Mon, 05/12/2014 - 11:34 | 4750916 Overfed
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Well you know, Vivek, a dram is better than a damn.....

Mon, 05/12/2014 - 11:11 | 4750813 lordylord
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"The "self's" we get to chose from this fall (and 2016) aren't exactly selling points for that self rule thing."

Reduce the size and power of government and you would quickly find that it hardly matters who gets elected.  If we had a federal government that obeyed the limits placed on it by the Constitution, would a Romney or Obama (or Ron Paul) presidency really effect your life?  No, it would not.  Get government out of the economy and our lives.  Vote for a libertarian or a real conservative.

Mon, 05/12/2014 - 12:21 | 4751107 smoothie
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Go Scotland, for de-escalation, it might make the world just a little more bright, in one dark corner!

Mon, 05/12/2014 - 10:53 | 4750727 Unknown User
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Putin can't afford to economically uplift Ukraine nor interested in losing pro-Russian votes there. Stable pro-Russian Ukraine is what Putin wants.

Mon, 05/12/2014 - 11:05 | 4750797 FMR Bankster
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I think he wanted that in the past. However, after the second western backed coup in 10 years and the drive to separate Ukraine from the Russian zone of influence he's changed plans. Once Crimea was absorbed the chance to win elections where leaders looked east is gone. (2 million voters tied to Russia have now left Ukraine)So now he's moving to absorb those parts of Ukraine with the strongest historical ties (and economic links)to Russia. The maps on Zero hedge showing everything south and east from a line drawn between Kharkiv and Odesa plus the transnistra area of Moldova seems about right.

Mon, 05/12/2014 - 11:12 | 4750822 CrashisOptimistic
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Good point.  But let's examine it.

Crimea was likely expensive.  But they have nat gas offshore.

Donetsk and the east carries the rest of the country economically.  They have the rich agriculture areas AND the industrial areas.  The west is mostly forest land. 

It's not going to be all burden.  The Chinese have leased farmland there for 70 yrs and those lease payments will stop going to Kiev.

Mon, 05/12/2014 - 12:18 | 4751090 bobby02
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You might want to gander at Ukrainian energy intensity before salivating over that industry. Cheap natgas will float that boat, but selling natgas cheaply causes other problems in the Rus. Cheap dirty coal fires competitieve steel/pipe production but has other costs. Nukes are in Kiev and the west. Only viable LT solution is to cut entergy intensity, but that is beaucoup CAPEX, problematic when you are cut off from western capital markets.

I agree with you on Ag, but at the end of the day it's pretty low value added.

Mon, 05/12/2014 - 11:12 | 4750746 spine001
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When commodity owners stop accepting fiat money as a media of exchange, it's game over. OBVIOUS, but forgotten in the MSM.

So your reasonable question should be: Why in he.l do they accept it? Well the answer is easier than you may think.  Because you can pass it on to somebody else to your gain before it looses value. Thus borrowing to buy some other asser before you even sold your commodity is the equivalent of: you already passed it off before you even got it, etc. It's a simple game of hot potato.  Things start getting interesting when the velocity of money goes up. Since nobody wants to be the guy holding the hot potatoe for smaller and smaller amounts amounts of time. At some point the players give up, usually after they discover that they can't find somebody to pass the potato on, fast enough to maintain their gain of giving their commmodities in exchange for that hot potato. At that point one player just decides to stop playing the game and start asking for hard assets rather than fiat money. From then on it snowballs to all players incredibly fast and the system breaks in miliseconds. 

Mon, 05/12/2014 - 10:58 | 4750751 lordylord
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"I have to admit that if this all was pre-planned months ago by comrade Putin"

Pre-planned by the people who are in charge of Obama and Putin.  Putin and Obama are reading off of cue cards.  Well, maybe Putin can memorize his lines.  Obummer needs a teleprompter due to his obvious learning deficiencies. 

Mon, 05/12/2014 - 10:38 | 4750677 TahoeBilly2012
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Have our Jews send in the Nazis, the CIA and Blackwater! FREEDOM!

Mon, 05/12/2014 - 10:39 | 4750678 ZH Snob
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very soon all that will be left of the Ukraine will be Kiev.

Mon, 05/12/2014 - 10:42 | 4750689 lakecity55
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Hopefully, one day, all that will be left of the USSA is D.C.

Mon, 05/12/2014 - 11:44 | 4750953 sethstorm
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Except that there is no USSA, there never has been a USSA, and that there will likely not be a USSA.


Mon, 05/12/2014 - 12:07 | 4751052 Bunga Bunga
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Sleep on, sheeplestorm.

Mon, 05/12/2014 - 11:51 | 4750987 ZH Snob
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looks like a couple of regime stooges came in a gave us all down votes.  nice work, boys, that'll really sway public opinion.

Mon, 05/12/2014 - 12:04 | 4751046 sethstorm
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nice work, boys, that'll really sway public opinion.

At least it has more legitimacy than any of the votes for Russia to occupy Ukraine soil (Crimea, Donetsk, etc.).

Mon, 05/12/2014 - 12:11 | 4751068 Canadian Dirtlump
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It's the wannabe mercenary troll dwayne who works in the mail room at blackwater err xi err academi.



Mon, 05/12/2014 - 10:42 | 4750691 Kirk2NCC1701
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Chicken Kiev.  It's what's for dinner.

Mon, 05/12/2014 - 11:10 | 4750814 Oh regional Indian
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Duck Donetsk is the second course...

"free" range of course... ;-)

Mon, 05/12/2014 - 12:08 | 4751053 Bunga Bunga
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Served with fried Yatsies.

Mon, 05/12/2014 - 10:42 | 4750692 Canadian Dirtlump
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This boobery is too perfect to not have an overt purpose be it by human machinations or the demonic.


If some pedestrian collection of turds like us can see it a mile away there isn't any doubt the intelligencia can.

Mon, 05/12/2014 - 11:17 | 4750844 Oh regional Indian
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CD, we are the intelligensia. Your handle notwithstanding. :-)

IntelligenCIA was cool too...

Mon, 05/12/2014 - 11:42 | 4750951 sethstorm
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Putin - I can't count that low

Fixed that error for you, since Putin is playing at -infinity.

Mon, 05/12/2014 - 18:56 | 4752606 Aussie V
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Twice now I have tried to down vote Sethstorm but my mouse doesn't recognise his red arrow. It just glides over.


Mon, 05/12/2014 - 10:34 | 4750661 DavidC
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Putin = Chess

Obama = Tiddlywinks


Mon, 05/12/2014 - 11:48 | 4750974 Uncle Remus
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Obama = Himself

Mon, 05/12/2014 - 10:34 | 4750663 unrulian
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Looks like business will be booming for Blackwater

Mon, 05/12/2014 - 10:36 | 4750671 IridiumRebel
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You mean Academi...err whatever the fuck they call themselves now. It will be different by next month.

Mon, 05/12/2014 - 11:50 | 4750983 Uncle Remus
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He said "booming".

Heh heh. BOOM! Heh heh.

Mon, 05/12/2014 - 10:35 | 4750669 IridiumRebel
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Looks like somebody needs to be FREEDOM'D!

Mon, 05/12/2014 - 10:37 | 4750673 pupton
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How long before American States begin declaring their independence and asking Russia for protection?

Mon, 05/12/2014 - 10:40 | 4750681 hognutz
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Need to start ASAP

Mon, 05/12/2014 - 10:40 | 4750686 ParkAveFlasher
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We certainly have enough fat girls to throw in front of APCs!  (I'm sorry, I had to)

Mon, 05/12/2014 - 10:48 | 4750712 foodstampbarry
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As a Texan, I'm just waiting for Rick Perry to say the word. I'll have to abandon my land in FLorida but it will be worth it.

Mon, 05/12/2014 - 10:59 | 4750755 RealityCheque
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That there is salatious talk sir. DC is not fond of that kind of thing.

Mon, 05/12/2014 - 11:17 | 4750843 Dr. Engali
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DC isn't fond of any talk that doesn't include praise of "the one".

Mon, 05/12/2014 - 11:15 | 4750832 CrashisOptimistic
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You really think Washington could let the country's primary oil source leave?  hahahahah

Mon, 05/12/2014 - 10:54 | 4750714 Kirk2NCC1701
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"How long before American States begin declaring their independence and asking Russia for protection?"

A: Soon after the USD loses its GRC status, and those who depend on the largesse of the and its Fed have an "Oh SNAP!" moment.

Until then, both polar opposite demographic groups (the 0.1% and corporate welfare queens on the one hand, and poor-people welfare cases on the other hand) have what they need: Handouts.  The former get tons on free cash and the latter get just enough to keep from rebelling, while the reversion to a feudal state continues.

Mon, 05/12/2014 - 11:21 | 4750860 NotApplicable
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I think Chinese buying up vast amounts of US real estate is the true Declaration of Dependence.

Mon, 05/12/2014 - 11:49 | 4750981 Patriot Eke
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Unlike the fine citizens of Mariupol and other cities in Donetsk, millions of Americans are heavily armed.

Mon, 05/12/2014 - 12:03 | 4751041 sethstorm
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Mon, 05/12/2014 - 10:40 | 4750683 Dr. Engali
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Come on Texas, get the secession ball rolling will ya? 

Mon, 05/12/2014 - 10:59 | 4750750 Kirk2NCC1701
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You gotta have them first, before anything 'rolls'.  So far I'm seeing more hats than cattle.  Unfortunately.

But, hopefully, things will change the very day after The Currency Reset.  In the meantime, one can always "prime the pump" with the secession talk... to create a groundswell, I suppose.

Mon, 05/12/2014 - 11:39 | 4750935 Overfed
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I bet N. Dakota is first, followed by Wyoming.

Mon, 05/12/2014 - 11:57 | 4751009 sunnyside
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How about Alaska?  Seems more logical to me.

Mon, 05/12/2014 - 18:11 | 4752499 Overfed
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Alaska gets an awful lot of gubmint cheese.

Mon, 05/12/2014 - 12:02 | 4751035 sethstorm
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Only if they want to sign their existence away.

Mon, 05/12/2014 - 11:41 | 4750941 sethstorm
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The moment they secede is the moment that they end up becoming a crater-filled no-mans land.

Mon, 05/12/2014 - 18:12 | 4752504 Overfed
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You're such .gov douche.

Mon, 05/12/2014 - 10:41 | 4750687 Ignatius
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Isn't it fun watching the West denounce popular referendums?

To paraphrase Stackers:  If only hypocrisy were fatal...

Mon, 05/12/2014 - 11:26 | 4750883 Oh regional Indian
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Hah! From King Lear to King Liar in one fell swoop...

The long slide....

Mon, 05/12/2014 - 12:21 | 4751105 sethstorm
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Isn't it fun watching the West denounce farcical referendums?

Apparently you forgot to see the >100% turnout in the Donetsk event that tried to pass for a "referendum".  It's hard to be legitimate when you can submit ballots for your neighbors, or when some of the no-voters are kidnapped by the Russian-backed thugs. 

Even Chicago has its limits.

Mon, 05/12/2014 - 12:35 | 4751161 Ignatius
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So you accept the idea of an independence referendum, you just think that the voting was corrupted?

From my perch here in the US I would personally be fine with verification and/or a re-vote, but somehow I suspect you would not.


Mon, 05/12/2014 - 12:50 | 4751216 ndree
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You got it all wrong! Chicago is what happend in Kiev, and on the Maidan.

Mon, 05/12/2014 - 10:44 | 4750688 Azannoth
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This was an Independence Referendum not a "Join Russia" referendum .. if they want to join Russia they need to ask this specifically!

Putin will not be stupid enough to swallow this hook, if he said No it would send a clear message that Russia is not out to conquer Ukrain or the West.

Russia does not need more territory anway. Ofc Putin cant say "No" outright but dragging this out indefinitely would be the best political option.

Mon, 05/12/2014 - 10:48 | 4750717 MarsInScorpio
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Obviously you're not a Russian-speaking person in that region - so you aren't looking down the barrel of the war criminal mercenaries, bought and paid for by the CIA / US State Department.


If it were your brains they were threatening to blow out, your sweet little fanny would have a very different opinion.


Sitting safe and comfortable in a non-mercenary-infested area gives you an incredible self-righteousness . . . go get into the line of fire with the war criminals aiming at you and let’s see how you feel.


Another exciting troll, or idiot, graces the conversation . . .



Mon, 05/12/2014 - 10:51 | 4750723 Azannoth
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.. than get your own guns and fight back! as far as I know Russia does not have a 2nd Amendment and gun laws are very restrictive there, so why would you wanna join if you can have something better?

Mon, 05/12/2014 - 11:40 | 4750857 MarsInScorpio
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Your reply is disconnected.


Are you suggesting that the easterners fight back? Like, no kidding. And they will.


I can't wait for them to start showing dead mercenaries.


But join what? The EU - so you can get looted and raped of everything you worked for, and now own? So the TBTF international banks can suck you dry? So you can turn your area into another Greece, or Cyprus, or Italy, of France, or Spain, or Portugal . . . ?


You don't get it, do you? These people are fighting for their lives.


They know that the Yulia Timoshenko Nazis - the spawn of Hitler - or the Nationalists - the legacy decedents of the Death Camp guards - will, in the words of sweet, innocent Yulia, "nuke them."


They know that Kiev already has their Death Warrant signed. They know that the EU / US / NATO/ FED / ECB unelected Deep State has no guilt, no shame, no conscience - they are classically defined psychotic sociopaths. Or in plain English, they are serial mass murderers who only respect a country that is willing to annihilate them - so that will back them off.


Ultimately, the whole bunch are bully cowards. They kill brown people with no means to defend themselves from 10,000 feet. They extoll hypocrites like Michelle Obama, who is all for saving "the girls," but sleeps with a man who nightly decides which country's "girls" will die in the morning with the next drone attacks.


Obama is a war criminal, guilty of crimes against humanity. If he were White, the international community would already have him behind bars. (What a perverted farce the Nobel Peace Prize is with him – a ruthless murderer who brags that “I’m good at killing people” – winning one.)


The US is so far from its ideals that it is unrecognizable. We’ve allowed Black Racists and the Gay Mafia to take over. We've allowed people who are so anti-American they won't even learn English - so we have dual language everything - to arrive unimpeded and take over entire regions of the country, fly the Mexican flag in place of the US flag, and have judges on the US Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals who order that students cannot wear the flag or wave it on a Mexican holiday because the US flag is a symbol and provoker of racism.


Criminals populate the Congress, the Admin, and the Judiciary.


We have an AG that should be in jail, offering TBTP free passes to other criminals who should join him. We have an MSM that is no longer made up of journalists, but rather now exists to promote the Looney Tunes Left-Wing 5% Fringe psychotic sociopaths that have turned our school into lockdown ganglands, made pre-adolescents sex objects for the Hollywood pervs, created Killing Fields in the inner cities, and effeminized males while "butching up" females.


It's time for someone to "reset" these whack jobs. If it starts with the courage of the Russian-speakers and others who will not allow themselves to be turned into rifle targets for the serial mass murderers, good.


As for people like yourself, burn in Hell.



Mon, 05/12/2014 - 12:18 | 4751079 sethstorm
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I can't wait for them to start showing dead mercenaries. the Russian ones that we keep on seeing being passed as "American" ones?


It's time for someone to "reset" these whack jobs in the East. If it starts with the courage of the Americans, NATO, anti-Russian Ukrainians,  and others who will not allow themselves to be turned into rifle targets for the Russians, good.

FTFY.  You want to see the worst, look towards Russia - not the West.

Mon, 05/12/2014 - 13:05 | 4751261 MarsInScorpio
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How wonderful - a full-fledged member of the western propaganda team repling to me!


Now I've hit the Big Time . . .


Meanwhile, you are a liar.


Mon, 05/12/2014 - 11:34 | 4750917 Azannoth
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Hypocrycy runs deep on both sides, Chechnya wants Independence too!

Mon, 05/12/2014 - 11:42 | 4750952 MarsInScorpio
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They aren't holding peaceful referendums. The easterners are.


But maybe the difference is too subtle for you to catch . . .




Mon, 05/12/2014 - 12:24 | 4751113 nonclaim
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Do you believe in what you write? Because if you don't it'll have deep psychological consequences to your *self* after a while...

Mon, 05/12/2014 - 13:10 | 4751280 MarsInScorpio
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If I didn't believe in what I write, I wouldn't write it.


As Pilate said, "What I have written, I have written."


Mon, 05/12/2014 - 13:32 | 4751365 nonclaim
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I get the -30- ref ... but it is still not too late.

Mon, 05/12/2014 - 12:24 | 4751121 Volkodav
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Nyet  most Chechnya prefer Russia

media dumb you down much?

Mon, 05/12/2014 - 10:54 | 4750732 nonclaim
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The Independence Referendum will be taken inside the Russian territory... just wait a bit and see what will happen :)

Mon, 05/12/2014 - 11:39 | 4750934 sethstorm
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Lack of ability to converse in Russian does not negate his opinion.

Could you explain why the separatists will go after innocent people, stuff polls, and accept the corruption of a Russian caliber? 

Mon, 05/12/2014 - 10:42 | 4750690 Relentless101
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Split the damn thing and stop shooting people.

Mon, 05/12/2014 - 11:35 | 4750918 sethstorm
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Perhaps if the Russian-backed separatists did that, relied on honest elections, and didn't rely on Moscow, there'd be no issue.

Mon, 05/12/2014 - 10:42 | 4750693 tuttisaluti
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Me think the dnjepr will be the new border

Mon, 05/12/2014 - 11:24 | 4750868 DeadFred
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I'm betting the border will be Poland, Slovakia, Rumania. If shots are fired Putin will take the whole thing. Forward defense has always been NATO's doctrine so Putin will do the same

Mon, 05/12/2014 - 11:27 | 4750888 NotApplicable
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Or the old border.

Mon, 05/12/2014 - 10:44 | 4750694 Quinvarius
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Game over.  Looks like Obama will have to concentrate his efforts on turning North Africa and the ME into a destabilized Islamic Fundamentalist Hellhole again.

Mon, 05/12/2014 - 11:05 | 4750795 tony wilson
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a simple us,london tel aviv plan go to all the african places china are investing in and set up frank kitson style al cia da boko haram style islamic terror groups.

break up countries that have mineral wealth kill lots of people use refugees for slave trade and organ harvesting.

this is a very slick satanic operation

Mon, 05/12/2014 - 11:32 | 4750910 sethstorm
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this is a very slick satanic operation

That's Putin's way.

Mon, 05/12/2014 - 11:18 | 4750846 JustObserving
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So many drones and so few wedding parties to drone:

Last Year President Obama Reportedly Told His Aides That He's 'Really Good At Killing People'

No one doubts that you are very good at killing, Mr Nobel Prize Winner. How many have you killed before lunch today? How is the killing in Ukraine today?

Mon, 05/12/2014 - 10:43 | 4750698 Dr. Engali
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Hey wait a tic... I thought the way to spread democracy was by cruise missile, not by ballot. These people have no clue. They need to be liberated. 

Mon, 05/12/2014 - 10:53 | 4750730 IridiumRebel
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Let's democratize this bitch! i'll summon the Goldman/IMF puppet "interim" .gov and you prepare the NATO first strike force for proper liberation.


Mon, 05/12/2014 - 10:44 | 4750699 NDXTrader
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Out of all of the crazy, f@cked up days in the market we've seen over the last 5 years this has to take the cake. We can finally see the gray swan - if Draghi doesn't unleash some QE in June (as promised, and promised, and promised) we'll finally get a blow up

Mon, 05/12/2014 - 10:59 | 4750753 Abitdodgie
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You shold know the score by now NOTHING happens in the market unless they want it to .

Mon, 05/12/2014 - 10:45 | 4750702 Snidley Whipsnae
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Putin gets land route to port, manufacturing area, fracking potential, NATO pushed off Russian border, plus adoration from constituents. 

IMF/US State Dept/NATO gets all expense paid golf outing to St Andrews.



Mon, 05/12/2014 - 11:32 | 4750905 sethstorm
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...adoration from Berkut thugs and their families.


Mon, 05/12/2014 - 12:33 | 4751146 smoothie
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Aye and St Andrews doesn'y want them!

And if it were to kick them out, what might happen?

Mon, 05/12/2014 - 12:35 | 4751158 newworldorder
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And we have the Ivy League educated elites running the State Department and entrenched in every sphere of government. What do you expect?

And to add further insult - the lady from Arkansas may have a decent chance of capturing the Presidency for the next 8 years with the support of every liberal in the Country. After all - we need a female gender President to show the world how progressive we are.

Our country is surviving on the good will, hard work of the 50% who are still working and dumb luck momentum. Let's see what happens when that momentum diminishes greatly.

Mon, 05/12/2014 - 10:50 | 4750713 socalbeach
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What's going to happen if after the May 25th elections, the new Ukranian gov't invites US troops in?  Not NATO since as Jorgen pointed out in another thread, NATO won't allow new members with border disputes.

edit, nevermind, he just answered my question:

Mon, 05/12/2014 - 10:49 | 4750721 JustObserving
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When will McCain show up in Donetsk and say, "We are here to support your just cause."

Mon, 05/12/2014 - 10:58 | 4750749 Snidley Whipsnae
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"We are here to support your just cause."

Nah, McCain will say "We're from the government and we're here to help you."

He won't be specific about the 'help'...

Mon, 05/12/2014 - 12:00 | 4751028 sethstorm
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Nah, Putin will say "We're from Russia and we're here to help you."



Mon, 05/12/2014 - 15:31 | 4751876 Gavrikon
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When will that old fool finally just die?

Mon, 05/12/2014 - 10:54 | 4750731 ross81
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South Sudan and Kosovo can secede but not Crimea and Donetsk? Brilliant fucking Western logic in action.....

Mon, 05/12/2014 - 11:04 | 4750787 Kirk2NCC1701
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Logic never had anything to do with it, my friend.  Don't confuse "pretext" with "reason".

BTW, note that in the USSA cops and other LEAs are allowed to "pretext" (lie and deceive), but its Subjects are not allowed to.  Unless they want to go to jail.

In the USSA we are all "Free", but some are more Free than others.

Mon, 05/12/2014 - 11:59 | 4751020 sethstorm
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The problem is that there has been/is no USSA.

Mon, 05/12/2014 - 14:58 | 4751719 Zadig
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Self determination is only acceptable when it's useful to the empire. 

Mon, 05/12/2014 - 10:58 | 4750734 tony wilson
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crimea used existing forces so it should be here.

putin does not need to send infintry men from russia all he needs to do is help those folks in the towns and cities that want a vote.

organize and logistics.

putin should do noting let the world see hired kiev hands cut off heads shoot people dead.

let the british,the israelis and the yanks show the rothschild satanic values that come so natural.

putin waits thats what he does uses time to calculate a reply.

Mon, 05/12/2014 - 11:29 | 4750895 sethstorm
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putin does not need to send infintry men from russia all he needs to do is help those folks in the towns and cities that want a vote. sending pre-filled ballots, weaponry and moral support for the thuggery against the opposition?


Mon, 05/12/2014 - 11:00 | 4750762 RealityCheque
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This is getting really fucking embarrassing.

I wonder if I can declare my house a republic and tell everyone to fuck off. From the looks of things in the East and how toothless TPTB have become, I might have a shot.

Mon, 05/12/2014 - 11:32 | 4750907 NotApplicable
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As long as you've got a large enough force to fend off the sheriff, you're good to go.

I find it hilarious though, that you'd be embarrassed by a lack of evil. It's even funnier though, that it's the lack of a large enough force (ala "the dollar") that makes you feel so insignificant.

Mon, 05/12/2014 - 11:01 | 4750771 RealityCheque
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Actually, shouldn't the US be switching teams around about now. Obummer doesn't like to lose, so he just changes his opinion entirely.

Mon, 05/12/2014 - 11:06 | 4750802 intric8
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with crimea and donetsk backing out, net debt per capita is rising fast for remaining ukraine on that imf loan. watch the corrupt ukraine oligarchs offshore billions.

Mon, 05/12/2014 - 11:58 | 4750890 sethstorm
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Russian-backed Oligarchs the former leader of that country and the people that supported him?

Mon, 05/12/2014 - 11:56 | 4750887 sethstorm
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Russian Fraud

Another farce built by Russian fraud, but don't let facts get in the way of your support for things Moscow.

Mon, 05/12/2014 - 11:47 | 4750966 Pressfiretostart
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The Kiev Nazi empire is naked.

Mon, 05/12/2014 - 12:13 | 4751071 sethstorm
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The Russian thuggery is naked.

FTFY.  It's quite interesting to see what thuggery that the Berkut will do given Russian backing.


Mon, 05/12/2014 - 19:03 | 4752636 Seek_Truth
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@sethstorn- How's the weather in Langley?

Mon, 05/12/2014 - 20:47 | 4752967 TheFourthStooge-ing
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He doesn't know. His padded cell doesn't have a window.

Mon, 05/12/2014 - 11:47 | 4750968 The wheels on t...
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Join the bankrupt West or join the growing East.....hmmmm what to do....

Mon, 05/12/2014 - 12:14 | 4751072 sethstorm
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Join the clean West or join the corrupt East.....hmmmm what to do....

FTFY. The only things growing in Russia are thuggery and corruption.

Mon, 05/12/2014 - 11:50 | 4750985 Paracelsus
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It would be a different world if they still had those Uke nukes...

Meanwhile the Yanks trying to find a middle ground of allowing Iran to enrich their goodies without pissing off the Israelis.

Wasn't the State dept. policy "no more Islamic Bombs,period"?

By the way,there would be no "Iran problem" if the West (oil companies) had refrained in interfering with internal Iranian politics in the 1950's era.

The world we have inherited (social instability lurking below the surface) is a result of crappy decision making,post word war II.

Mon, 05/12/2014 - 12:18 | 4751088 messystateofaffairs
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I am not a Putin fan or anything like that but may I suggest that he unwind and relax after his latest victory over the Satanists by taking a relaxing ride on his favorite great white shark

Before continuing to influnce the world into a more progressive direction

Mon, 05/12/2014 - 12:41 | 4751183 sethstorm
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...victory over the Satanists...

That's Putin's side.

Mon, 05/12/2014 - 15:31 | 4751877 mandea
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"...victory over the Satanists..."

That's Putin's side.


:))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))) so funny.....!!!

is putin GOd'S hand? so you think he is?

OMG, crowd is so cheap....

can't stop laughing.

Mon, 05/12/2014 - 13:14 | 4751301 DOGGONE
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Hello Donetsk and Luhansk,
Obama calls your election yesterday ILLEGAL.

You can call ILLEGAL this massive deception by omission done to the USA people by rarely showing these very instructive price histories:

In the USA, federal felonies include fraud, which includes false advertising, which includes deception by omission.

Mon, 05/12/2014 - 13:25 | 4751342 sethstorm
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Hello Donetsk and Luhansk,
The civilized world calls your election yesterday ILLEGAL.

Fixed that for you.

Mon, 05/12/2014 - 13:46 | 4751418 Zwelgje
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You got nothing better to do?

Mon, 05/12/2014 - 20:51 | 4752979 TheFourthStooge-ing
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You got nothing better to do?

Yesterday's referendum has left sethstorm's butthole very hurt.

Mon, 05/12/2014 - 13:21 | 4751330 schatzi
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from the article:


what could be more civilized than annexing two regions of Ukraine in under two months without firing a single shot?


Annexing first Austria, then Sudentenland and finally the rest of the Czech Republic without a shot being fired?


The hatred towards their own government makes a large number of zerohedgers (and contributors) blind and uncritical of anyone in any way opposed. The complete loss of perspective is astounding. To even consider this farcical exercise binding by international law, requires some lack of legal understanding or a very thick tin-foil hat.


I'm tired of the tuna tin storing, shotgun toting, bunker hunkering end-times hopers. A great start to living that post-apocalyptic dream would be to cut your internet connection.

Mon, 05/12/2014 - 13:57 | 4751459 Gadfly
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You're an idiot.  Lumping things together.  Drawing crude and emotional, but misplaced analogies.  GET YOUR FUCKING FACTS STRAIGHT!  Then we'll listen.

Mon, 05/12/2014 - 16:03 | 4752042 Uncle Remus
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Angela, is that you?

Mon, 05/12/2014 - 18:15 | 4752512 blentus
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As someone who has been bombed without UN resolution/approval, let me tell you what I think about your 'legal understanding'...

Get fucked and die, you mongoloid.

Tell me more about perspectives, please.

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