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Is The Political Fight Over Keystone XL Over?
Submitted by Daniel Graeber via OilPrice.com,
A bill passed in a House energy committee aims to amend the rules for cross-border energy projects, suggesting the political fight over Keystone XL is over.
The House Energy and Commerce Committee approved resolution 3301, the so-called North American Energy Infrastructure Act. Authored by Reps. Fred Upton, R-Mich., and Gene Green, D-Texas, the bill aims to do away with the current processes for approving electrical, gas and oil infrastructure that would cross the U.S. border with Mexico or Canada.
"No one can rightfully argue that the current presidential permit process is not broken," Upton said in a May 8 statement.
A presidential permit is needed for cross-border projects and it's been more than five years since pipeline company TransCanada submitted its application for the Keystone XL pipeline. Since then, the company constructed and started service at its 485-mile Gulf Coast pipeline from Cushing, Okla., considered the U.S. leg of the pipeline.
Keystone XL itself would extend more than 1,100 miles from Alberta to Nebraska before it connected to existing links to Cushing. Designed to deliver oil sands, the pipeline has become the scapegoat not only for environmentalists, but for policymakers on both sides of the U.S. energy debate.
U.S. Sens. Mary Landrieu, chairwoman of the Senate Energy Committee, drafted a bill with Sen. John Hoeven, R-N.D., that would advance Keystone XL. Landrieu said May 1 it's time to stop debating the project and move ahead with construction.
"This pipeline is clearly in our national interest, and I urge all senators to join Sen. Hoeven and me to support this bill," she said.
Bipartisan bickering over procedural voting issues, however, left the bill dead on the Senate floor.
In April, the U.S. State Department said the federal agencies in charge of the permitting process needed more time because of legal issues related to the route through Nebraska. A state court is hearing challenges to legislation that gave Gov. Dave Heineman authority over the route and, while the consultation process isn't starting over, the State Department said route uncertainty was slowing federal decisions.
Upton said the legislation he helped write with his counterpart Green would get around such delays. With North American energy production on the rise, U.S. policymakers can make it easier to take full advantage of the boom by building more cross-border projects.
"This approach is a sincere effort to focus on a targeted solution to the lessons learned from the Keystone pipeline," he said.
The lesson learned after five years of waiting may be that the fight, at least in political terms, is over for Keystone XL.
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Pretty sure that long, hard pipe is coming from the wrong hole in Obama's face.
Which ear are you referring to?
not coming out of Harper's?
That's a pair, no.
About 1” lower and the pipe is attached to Reggie Love.
For the love of God, won't someone think of the Nebraska Prairie Tortoise?
The Nebraska Truck Stop Slug is more important.
Nobody really cares about the slug. The tortoise is another matter. Lots care about them. Especially the mighty Barry.
I will be laughing when it is maybe 2018 and they have 99% of the pipeline completed, except for a small sliver where the border is, and they finally decide to thwart the political gridlock by installing a small circular section of rail between the two endpoints.
1585 mile long --- that ought to "improve" global warming, no?
I have been surprised this hasn't already happened....
Good one!
The pipeline is not being built because of Obozo's political payoff to Warren Buffett.
Instead of shipping Canadian/North Dakotan oil via a pipeline, it’s coming south via rail tanker cars owned by Berkshire’s railway, BNSF.
http://www.ibtimes.com/warren-buffett-keystone-pipeline-cause-effect-156...
The Nebraskan Truck Stop Slug (Midwestia Hookus) can be put out to pastu...errr, ahhh, on EBT, given freeeeee! methadone treatments through ObamaCare and placed in public housing where his/her ulcerated lips will no longer infect the hard working unionized truckers of Amerika!
All it takes is the simple transfer of profits from eagle killing windmills & solar ovens.
This is central planning in its finest hour!
Forward Komrades!
Update on Misinformation
Keystone pipeline is to bypass US consumers and export Canadian oil products to more expensive overseas markets. And all of it, tax-free, stupid!
Is Canadian oil within 100 miles of the border subject to warrantless searches? You wouldn't want to be transporting short-chain hydrocarbons that might actually be liquid at room temperature.
i don't care about any of that, but if it results in even 1 imminent domain abuse where someone has his property taken from him by force, then I am against it
More global supply means lower prices. Doesn't matter where the oil goes. And anybody more concerned with taxing the hell out of someone else than creating jobs, oil srecurity and lower prices, is definitely an Obama lover. 5 years of Obamanomics failure isn't enough for people like you Escrava? How do you feel about the 12 other major oil pipelines coming from Canada? Close them too?
I am thinking of them. Now what?
Yum. Turtle soup!
Who cares, they taste like crap
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6UZvIZAHjlY
M. I. D. T. E. R. M. S
A-Yep.
Or they can keep arguing that somehow, transporting oil by rail or truck is safer...lol.
It's funny how the things that are good for us, even if we are too stupid to know it seem to be bad for Democrat elections. Obamacare provisions have been delayed and watered down, as well.
Who is that man?
Barocchio
Why is this so fucking important to so many of you? It will make Canadian oil producers and oil refiners wealthier. How exactly is this so awesome for Americans? I would love to know. I don't have an opinion either way. Benghazi Benghazi Benghazi.
But OB is holding back the economy because of a stupid pipe dream er line, the US is now making 8.5 million bbd, and it still ain't enough???? Cause y'all drive monster trucks and piss it all away. Bengoozi my eye, Keystone yer butt, turn down the central air conditioner, turn off the 6 foot satellite TV, buy a hybrid, eat a salad, for fuckssake.
Eat shit. Don't tell me what to do and I won't tell you what to do. How's that, nazi ?
Sooo, ummm, I'm gonna assume you have WH connections, would you be so kind as to find out how much the solar panels installed on the roof of OUR FUCKING HOUSE (the White House belongs to us) cost us?
Rumor has it that the panels will only power 22 lightbulbs, so we kinda wanna know the cost.
TIA.
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For my dickhead junker, I'm still waiting for an answer from you OR the White House, on what the cost was.
Cuz of "government transparency" and all that stuff.
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Well, this is interesting...no one seems to know the ACTUAL PRICE OF INSTALLING SOLAR PANELS at the White House.
How odd, could we assume about as much as one of their glitchy websites then?
Possibly if King Obama I could deign to speak to the "folks" we can get into the details of the contract, no-bid...open bid?...funds from where?...you know the veterans memorial & the fucking panda cam was shut down during "sequester"...this has real import to the nation, panda cams ya know...the mind reels ;-)
22 light bulbs? You just can't be that fucking stupid, can you?
And the patient fisherman finally see's his pole bend downwards, why looky here, its the bright green Babaloo fish, normally not caught on hook & line but probably mistook the bait for a Subsidy Sardine, one of its favorite foods...lol.
So tell me then Einstein, how many can they power, how much power does the WH consume on a daily basis and what was the cost of installation?
Homey, why you be shootin them puppies in a barrel? Turn over the barrel and give'em a running start!
;-)
It seems the progs (just like "their king") have no words or facts they want to divulge at this time...outside off calling people dumbasses....lol.
#UnleashTheKracken
Are there any true Canadian oil producers left? I think they're all American or European by trade name and the ownership is almost entirely the big money from London or New York. When has it ever mattered to US interests what language is spoken at the rigs? The money is made elsewhere on this deal.
The governments of China, Malaysia and Norway have some substantial ownership in the oilsands in addition to the usual multinationals.
http://canadianmoneyforum.com/showthread.php/14291-Chinese-and-Malaysian...
http://en.wikinews.org/wiki/Norway_purchases_Canadian_oil_sands_company
I'm not sure if the Canadians or their government actually own anything there anymore.
Its not, but the longer its delayed the more money Warren Buffet makes hauling oil by rail. The more money he makes the more there is available for his buddy Obama or campaign donations for Hillary.
By making the Middle East poorer and less important to the US.
The refiners are in Texas.
Actually mid-west refiners in MN, IL, OH, and KY have been making a killing because of the depressed prices of Canadian syn-crude because it can't get to market. Those refiners would honestly rather keep the northern leg of the Keystone XL shutdown because they have access through existing pipelines that aren't big enough to get more flow keeping the syn-crude prices depressed.
"this pipeline is clearly in our national interest"
Who cares about national interest, when Warren Buffet can originate his oil trains that are running all over the nation? What's good for Warren is, uhh, good for Warren.
Transporting oil by rail has an advantage in that it helps with the overpopulation problem.
The libs were quite successful in creating the meme :"it's Bush's fault"
I would love to see a new meme created for anything coming out of the
White House "Obama's a liar". It's just fits so well.
You forgot "Bush Lies" from the first war criminal.
I always find "this pol good, this pol bad" back and forth amusing, as they are ALL lying, thieving and murdering scumbags.
Sort of like arguing if the shit with corn in it is worse than the one with peanuts. Doesn't matter, as shit is shit.
GMO corn?
Turns out ethanol is even worse than oil for the enviroment.
Suuurprise suuurprise suuurprise!...right? ;-)
Fucking "progressives"...
http://reason.com/archives/2014/05/06/the-ethanol-disaster
and its a waste of some damn fine alcohol to boot. Why I hear that thar are thirstin utahans that don't even have enough alcohol to binge on !!!
Its a damned shame, considered criminal in fact, in some families ;-)
That's your Red State farm lobby, not progressives. Iowa caucus dude. Bachman land.
Fucking RWNJs that lie for a living on Fox.
I wasn't aware that Tom Harkin was a slobbering neanderthal and Bachman is from that well known RED STATE of Min-e-sooota.
Thanks for the update.
But...by all means lets give "progressives" a pass for promoting ethanol as greeeeeennnn! ;-)
I don't like getting involved in this red vs blue shit but....what? Iowa? Red State? LOL
Go google some election results and get back to me.
Bush was the ethanol champion and it was corn farmers who benefitted most. I don't remember any "progressives" or environmentalists pushing for ethanol at any time.
You're entitled to your own opinion, you're just not entitled to fabricate your own facts.
Facts? You presented none whatsoever; only useless derision.
It will disturb the caribou in Nebraska.
Barry and Soros have aligned with Petrobras - Brazil State Oil Company - for deep sea oil.
When this happens, Keystone oil won't be required.
What's more interesting is that Keystone has been pumping Alberta oil to Kushing, Oklahoma since 2010.
The last extension to the Texas coast and a shorter route north of Kushing is what Barry is holding up.
It's like Barry and Walmart - Walmart built their first store in Chicago after Barry's re-election - money in / money out.
Obama is smart. He's letting the repubicans make the pipeline happen. He wants it too but his constituents don't. Now he can say, he done what he could.
He's not smart, and he's not "letting Republicans do it", he's just not retarded, hence waiting for a few days after the midterms to stick it to his economically illiterate voters.
The Keyster pipeline will lower the price of gas by.......wait for it......Zero, teatards.
Hey CK!...did you catch P Diddly Whackers Unicorn Speech at Howard...wasn't that awesome?...
'I am a unicorn, you are a unicorn. We are unicorns.' Sean Combs-Puff Daddy-Puff D-P Diddy-just, Diddy...dropout, Dr.
Now he's got an honorary doctorate in the study of unicorns!...or sumpin ;-)
http://inthecapital.streetwise.co/2014/05/10/p-diddy-howard-commencement-speech/
So Kanye's a gay fish, and Diddy's a unicorn. Got it.
Pretty sure pDiddlysquat doesn't give a shit about anyone but himself. Or else he would sponsor a few Unicorn Universities in "less than served" neighborhoods.
Wouldn't he?
Man, wouldn't that piss off Oprah, Sharpton & Jesse ;-)
Is this a black thing?
And I suggest Canada continue with Northern Gateway and delay or drop Keystone. Too late? Too bad.
It's not over until it's over.
Obama is justly fearful that those dastardly canucks will fill it full of maple syrup instead and bring terror and obesity to the good folk of Nebraska. Thank God we have a president to protect us like this.
Bringing obesity to Nebraska is like coals to Newcastle.
"It's not going to impact our high-fructose corn syrup sales, is it? Okay, go ahead." - ADM
Wonder how much in pork this pipeline agreement cost?
people who hate 'oil' and 'carbon dioxide'
need to stop reading this article, brought to them on a screen made of oil , delivered by burning oil.
keystone, and for that matter, low roei high c02 high water petroleum projects are going to proliferate as the easy stuff is harder to find.
this is like what happened to whales. we almost killed them all, and the toothpaste tube squeeze economics force capital to anticipate a consolidating shortage of existing profits (yield seeking chasing shittier oil projects) , by forcing out a flush of risk seeking capital into unconventional ALTERNATIVES to the existing paradigm.
as peak oil has been debunked, but peak cheap oil has been proven, we can rest assured that as the cheap oil projects get more scarce-------more money will chase other non-petroleum sources of energy that can scale. SCALE.
namely advanced methods of using storing and transporting natural gas and after that------solar energy---not wind. not advanced coal processing , not hydro power, not biomass. not geothermal, but MAYBE advanced nuclear. NONE OF THOSE but natural gas, solar, and advanced nuclear can scale because of the remaining potential gains to be pursued in those areas.
biomass reearch in promising for advanced material sourcing, BUT NOT FOR FUEL. it doesn't scale for fuel becuase of the high water requirements AND each biomass crop on land require crop land. and drive up food prices and housing prices. biomass in the ocean is just expensive and too risky.
wind has limited upside but is reliable and an unfortuante second place winner in the environemental venture investement landscape.
solar has massive upside room for technology development. at least another 50 years of research till we play out the R&D arc followed by the internal combustion engine. and compared to solar, natural gas is like super man. the whole world is going to transition to massive dependency on methane in the next twenty years as the leading marginal unit of energy produced.
natural gas can be burned in gasoline engines with minimal retrofitting. storage technology for the gas is increasing. liquification tech is increasing. adn bottom line, natural gas is like 10X better at minimizing pollution and particulates compared to liuqid petroleum . so it IS happening wehther you like it or not.
this doesn't mean you should pick on keystone as the devil. keystone is happening. you cannot stop it. get used to it.
Wonder how many people still believe in peak oil of some kind. The big feilds in the mid east and the USA and for that matter anywhere there are big finds. Are not as played out as much as expected. They have only given up at most 10% of their oil. The technology is advancing to where some are predicting 70% recovery. This means the saudies haveenough oil to pump like they have been for aproximately 500 years. The end of oil will not be running out of oil but the technology that replaces it. If we knew what it was , we would have a patten on it and be building it.
Remember that the stone age did not go under because of the lack of stones....
Just amazing, really amazing, and you wonder...
Keystone is just another "false-flag" political stunt by the CIA and neo-cons' manchurian candidate in the White House.
As the economy deteriorates further, the evangelicals out in the "red states" will be fed more pipeline BS. They'll be told that economic growth, at least in their region, is being stymied by "Obama, the left, the Dems and the environmentalists."
Add in all of the BS that they have already been fed and a coming White House homosexual scandal to boot, and they'll be ready to carry the new DC US dictator to the White House on their shoulders.
"As go the evangelicals, so goes the DC US."
Sidenote: When I mention Repubs, Dems, left, right, etc., I am doing so from the point of view of the sheeple, as I do not believe in such fairytales. And I wouldn't piss on an environmentalist if they were on fire.
If Obama is now in favor of Keystone it is only because it will keep Canadian oil from being pumped through a pipeline across Canada and shipped to China. Especially since China is shaking hands with Russia.
There are no political fights in the U.S.S.A. - it's all theater.
Interesting to see Congress pass something to bypass the President, especially since Obama has been signing all those Executive Orders to bypass Congress...
The liar in chief still has to sign the bill or it's all simply just theater.
Only on ZH is a resolution that got out of committee considered a passed law.
"I'm not sure if the Canadians or their government actually own anything there anymore."
That's true of most countries. The ones that "nationized" their oil are considered terrorist nations. Iran, Venezuela, etc.
Nobody who's been paying any attention thought KXL wasn't going to happen at some point.
This is an end-game and all the rules change in the end. People are going to start to hurt -- badly. Lot's of people in lots of places. The visuals of our Canadian oil then going along a northern passage directly to China just were not going to float. Ever. Of course our oil coming from Canada and going to China via Cushing is fine. Certainly, the oil terminal states like Texas would have no trouble accepting that outcome. to ensure this they will now be very busy teaching the American public that once that oil hits the lower 48 every drop of it is going into the tanks of American SUVs, fact.
Of course nothing of the kind is the case.
I don't particularly care. I don't use much fuel directly. I don't like to see people around me being played but there's nothing I can do to help them, not yet.
Later, maybe. I think there is a really important wake-up call coming. Then maybe I'll care. But right now people can go on believing anything they like if it means they can remain calm and relaxed enough to leave me alone. I don't like being in a crowd when people lose their shit. And when people find out they're being played and that oil is going to dem niggas what pay cash, they are going to totally lose their shit.
Cougar..... ".... wake-up call coming.... when people find out they're being played...."
Cougar, you nailed it!
So, you're on board with building some US refineries? ;-)
NO!
Plenty of capacity to refine, if more oil could be found or, it would become available.
obummer will give speeches to the koch bros for cash
cancer:body::humans:earth
Clearly humans (most humans in this day and age) don't have the capacity to restrain themselves from destroying their host (earth), any more than cancer cells have the capacity to restrain themselves from abnormal growth and invading other regions of the body.
Most people are short-sighted, selfish, and stupid. But so it goes - we get to live with it. Yippee.
cancer:body::humans:earth
Clearly humans (most humans in this day and age) don't have the capacity to restrain themselves from destroying their host (earth), any more than cancer cells have the capacity to restrain themselves from abnormal growth and invading other regions of the body.
Oncologist heal thyself. Instead of a lead apron try a lead bullet to the head. 1/7,000,000,000 of the problem solved. Shit, why not take out some of your likeminded asswads while you're at it? None of them have the guts to do it.
'Clearly humans suck and the world would be better off without them...well, except for you and your brethren of course. You are the only smart people on Earth and it needs you. We need you.'
You'd gladly kill off everyone but yourselves. Then your hippy commune fails like the others before it because strangly no one wants to clean the toilets. Arrogant fucks.
I've always wanted to ask Al Gore a question. Before you nod off tonight would you mind removing your mouth from his cock for a second to ask him something for me?
Thanks for proving my point. LOL
Shouldn't we be asking Warren (dickhead) Buffett?
Since Obama has been trying to block the Keystone pipeline, does that make Obama a Keystone cop? AKA Buster Keaton.
Pushing the pipeline through should adequately piss off Warren Buffet considering his railroad the Union Pacific presnelty carries most of the oil product out of Canada.
Warren owns the UP? Really? Are you sure?
Isn't it odd that they don't build the pipeline to the refinery in Vancouver. British Columbia? That would be a much shorter route. In fact, it would be just about 1/3 the length of the XL pipeline. Why do you think that is?
exportng oil out of the US?
Just a guess. We will see no benefit. This is just so warren buffet can make moar money
Have you ever heard of that little thing called The Rocky Mountains?......Then, of course, Canada has its own OPEC-supported environmentalist camp to contend with.
Just goes to show, if you're a billionaire how long you can actually stall a project in order to ship those liquids by your rail cars.
I wonder now, that Obama will support the pipeline, if ZH'ers will go 180º and start hating and protesting it.