Seen On The New Donetsk Republic Leader's Wall...

Tyler Durden's picture

Just a few days ago we highlighted what some had outlined as "Novorossiya" (New Russia) - the new territory being 'created' by the Russian Spring... today courtesy of @kdzieciol, we see it from a slightly different angle - on the wall of Denis Pushilin's office - the leader of the new independent Donetsk Republic...

 

"Map of #Ukraine redrawn at Donetsk Peoples' Republic leader Denis Pushilin's office. Room 1007"

Angle not clear enough? Here it is again:

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Badabing's picture

Looks like Farmville to me.

Sudden Debt's picture

I'm more a Kings of Camelot kind of player :)

 

ilion's picture

It's strange that couple of months ago, way before the Ukrainian crisis, couple of larger Forex brokers (CitiFX, Armada Markets, SaxoBank) introduced leveraged trading in USD/RUB. Are they expecting some kind of crash and now want to lure all of the retail crowd into this market?

ParkAveFlasher's picture

Lure retail, or dredge a channel to guide in the massive retail-yoking algo torpedos? 

NotApplicable's picture

Funny how that's a "mineral commodities" map.

Keep your eyes on the prize, no?

Save_America1st's picture

 

 

 

The West can't solve Vladimir Putin

They're tryin' to get him to shootin'

But this guy's too quick

His moves are too slick

His chess guess is best, no disputin'

 

Signed: the non-lymeric king (but thought I'd give a try for WB7)

;-)

BigJim's picture

Putin's success must not stand!
said the banksters reviewing their plan
'Say! I have an idea'
said a man at  the rear
Why don't we just bomb ol' Iran?

BaBaBouy's picture

HEy, I GOT An IDEA, Let's Have The NEXT OLYMPICS Here !!!

Save_America1st's picture

I screwed my first limerick up and didn't even realize it...damn auto-complete must have changed "game" to "guess".  How stupid!  hahaha  Oh well...that's why WB7 is the true Limerick King. ;-)

One more try:

 

The West can't solve Vladimir Putin

They're tryin' to get him to shootin'

But this guy's too quick

His moves are too slick

His chess game is best, no disputin'

 

Signed: the non-limerick king (but thought I'd give a try for WB7)

;-)

quintago's picture

Duh. You thought Putin was going to allow them a port from which to transit? Are you nuts?

Unknown User's picture

That's because it is the map of what was called as New Russia during the Russian Empire times.

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russians_in_Ukraine

YuShun's picture

Yes; the message for the junta in Kiev
is "Mene, Mene, Tekel, Upharsin".

fonestar's picture

fonestar's wall:

 

________WORLD_MAP________

|                                               |                     

|                BITCOIN!                 |

|__________________________ |

FinalEvent's picture

Title of the map is:

*** The map of mineral commodities of ukraine ***

I bet this is no coincidence.

 

Oh regional Indian's picture

Fascinating. And anyoen else think the upper map looks like a Bear facing left? And a baby bear right behind it?

Or is it this new strain....

ori

Dave Thomas's picture

Yeah it looks like a cute chubby water bear, they can survive for centuries in absolute zero without oxygen, they're also immune euronato pole-grabbers I hear.

Herd Redirection Committee's picture

Crimea is important, so Russia has a year-round warm water port.  Eastern Ukraine is fairly mineral-rich (oil/gas + pipelines of course), and there is quite a lot of heavy industry.  But primarily Eastern Ukraine must be in Russian hands, to prevent NATO from stationing 'missile defences'  there (just like how the 'Defence' budget is used for empire building, what do you think missile 'defences' are for).

MrPalladium's picture

I must confess that as partial as I am to self determination and as sympathetic as I am to Russian speaking majorities trapped in an EU looted Ukraine, I will be very dissapointed if Ukraine is not left with significant port access to the Black sea. At a minimum Ukraine needs to be left with the Nickolaev Oblast and thus also Odessa. Putin needs to know where and when to stop.

Renewable Life's picture

As much as I agree with your spirit of compromise here, I'm pretty sure Putin is NOT pushing the issue here!

It will stop when the lunatics in the West stop trying to use the borders of other people's Country's as prison cells!! As Americans, we better stop eating fast food with our EBT card loot and start seeing that the same is destined for us, as what just happened in the Ukraine!

If the borders you live within aren't of your own making and they are not for YOUR benefit, then what are they??? Counties, States, Country's, aren't a religion, there fluid, living, entities like the people that live within them, they should be able to change and morph with the "will of the people", when they don't or can't, your no longer a free person, your a slave or servant at best, to those borders!!!

What is happening in the Unraine is profound and more revolutionary then almost anything since the colonies in 1776 or Africa in the early 20h century!!!!

gcjohns1971's picture

" I'm pretty sure Putin is NOT pushing the issue here!"

 

Then you are living in a cartoon.

Everyone has their fingers in the Ukraine.  That is the problem. 

Imagining politicians to be god-like is the problem, not the solution.

Volkodav's picture

Pretty much ignored what the people there want didn't you?

 

 

Dewey Cheatum Howe's picture

Being right on the doorstep isn't as important these days. The real question is how fast can Russian missle defense systems detect and react to a launch from lets say Poland.

That is a tech question I am not familiar with so if the empire still has the first strike time arbitrage advantage which I believe don't believe really means shit in this case since both sides can easily park subs right on the doorstep for a close first strike attack that being on the doorstep if in this case it is more about follow up after the fact.

But there is no one simple answer to this conflict since it is layered with territorial empire interests overlaping the empire's real objectives.

The core issues at play always revolve around the oldest standing people's and groups while the outer layers revolve around the newest people's and groups in the empire.

sushi's picture

A launch from Poland would impact Moscow within 5 minutes.

Russia has some extrremely sophisticated air defence systems, arguably the best in any military inventory. There is the P-400 and a forthcoming P-500 with an improved abilty to counter ICBMs.

But the real problem with close basing is the short reaction times involved. Somebody launches something out of Poland and the dude in Moscow has under 5 minutes to react to the threat. The best way to protect your birds is to fly your birds. Some asshole is shooting at you, what are you going to do? Dam straight you are going to fire back with as many bullets as you can of the greatest calibre you can muster. You are going to put him down and then double tap him to make sure he stays down.

Essentially the proposed NATO close basing ends up putting the entire world on a hair trigger basis. Your welfare now depends on the cognitive skills of some grunt who suspects he is about to be incinerated. Great system.

 

gcjohns1971's picture

dumb.

Missile are big.  Support equipment is bigger.  They won't fit in 600 paratroopers carry-on luggage.

Flight time to Moscow is multiples of 5 minutes.  

Politician's declarations (including to join NATO) does not result in the magical creation of military hardware. Joining NATO results in an office being converted for the attache's use the requirement to reguarize certain support equipment on a voluntary basis in order to support military forces who will be equipped differently than the host nations'. 

To be frightened by a handful of bureacrats is not rational.  To conflate NATO membership or the arrival of 600 paratroopers with the presense of NUCLEAR weapons is not rational.  Is not sane.

Bombers do not carry ICBMs.  There is no point.  Bombers carry bombs.  If Russia objects to nuclear bombers near its borders it should cease telling other countries that its politicians will arrive in them.  It should cease invading others' airspace with them.

The irony is that Russia REGULARLY sends NUCLEAR BOMBERS into the CIVILIAN AIRSPACE of nations with whom it is not at war, but considers it to be nearly an act of war for those same others to have their equipment within 1000 miles of Russia.

Russia tells the world how it wishes to be treated with its actions toward others.  EVERY COUNTRY NEIGHBORING RUSSIA HAS BEEN INVADED AND OCCUPIED BY RUSSIA.

EVERY.

LAST.

ONE.

But Russia pretends not to understand why those countries fear Russia? Pretends not to know why those countries want powerful friends?

Pretends Chechnya an its other problems were created by others?

Sure, and every nook, cranny, and bush hides a CIA agent.  I found one in my shoe this morning.

This is pure paranoid insanity.

_ConanTheLibertarian_'s picture

How many accounts do you have to + yourself??

fonestar's picture

The virtual people have spoken and the virtual people have submitted to a taste test.  They approve fonestar.

XAU XAG's picture

 

 

 

 


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fonestar's wall:

 

________WORLD_MAP________

|                                               |                     

|                BITCOIN!                 |

|__________________________ |

 

 

 

Canot see a thing on that map..............oh thats because it ain't real! LOL

 

 

now had that been a map of silver/gold it would be much full filled

ilion's picture

Putin vs Obummer: 2 - 0

101 years and counting's picture

putin has pants'ed obama more than 2x.  dont forget syria.  putint to west: we'll take ukraine or we shut off your oil and nat gas.  and you financial bubbles all burst.  west to putin: you can have it.  just, for the love of god, dont pop our bubble.

ParkAveFlasher's picture

The problem with the West's threats is that the West equates "banking" with "economy", so as the West threatens the Russian currency, the West believes it is engaging in dastardly provocations ... however the West, in doing so, ironically, unconsciously, is only revealing the depth (or "debth") of its own decay.  The emperor truly has no clothes, and can't see its own reflection in the shiny pipelines of real goods and real energy that Putin chooses to lord over.  Currency is a means, not an end, unless you are financialized economy with no "growing" output but reserve currency (like, say, the US), reserve currency essentially being sheets of paper that globally denominate the prices of large volumes of real goods at the expense of, securitization by, or backing of any real value created by the American citizen taxpayer.  The West, perhaps specifically the US of A as London is filled with sharp, cagey, MFers who are likely controlling any- and everything under the sun with an English name, is unconsciously destroying itself moment by moment, however this destruction, if not acknowledged, will be literal rather than spiritual, as it should. 

Herd Redirection Committee's picture

Banking and the economy have definitely become synonymous in the 'Civilized World'.

Just yesterday I was reading about some interesting fiat experiments from the past.  One was "the short string" standard, which meant if you had 770 bronze coins, it was treated as 1000 bronze coins (sucks for the guy with less than 770 coins, thats for sure).  Used in China.

The other was the original paper fiat currency.  I heard merchants would stop accepting the newly issued fiat, and in cartel-like fashion, decide which FORMER regime's fiat to use instead.  It was a way for the merchant groups to try to take some of the power from the state, by refusing to accept newly issued fiat.

ParkAveFlasher's picture

If you have access to real goods, and firm human connections, and knowledge of the real marketplace which by implication indicates knowledge of real human need, why would you accept anything less than quality in exchange for what you may offer? 

Any recommended reading?

Herd Redirection Committee's picture

I am currently reading 1493 (which the above anecdotes are from), and also a big fan of Anatoly Fomenko, but a lot of his work has not been translated to English, so I am stuck using Google Translate...  Which honestly must be similar to what it was like for scholars 400 years ago, digging into archives, and reading foreign scripts, different styles of handwriting, trying to decipher what exactly you are reading!

udecker's picture

In my experience, it's the best way to learn something - try to read it in its original language, when you don't know the original language.  It really makes you try to decipher why they wrote what they wrote how they wrote it.

eatthebanksters's picture

It's super easy to pants someone wearing 'mommy jeans...Putin has give him the atomic wedgie as well...'

Winston Churchill's picture

89-0 by my count. Countries that is, now firmly on Russia's side of the fence.
Way beyond critical mass.

beegle's picture

what abou Syria

 

Putin vs Obummer 3 - 0

BanksterSlayer's picture

wait ... Ukraine ISN'T in Pakistan??!!

 

[reference: CNN official staff cartographers]

indygo55's picture

This should get that water problem in Crimea worked out.

bh2's picture

Yep. The Ukrainian Navy will soon be renamed the Ukrainian River Patrol and can sell off all those blue-water vessels to the highest bidder -- probably to good neighbor, Russia, in exchange for gas supplies.

Gene Parmesan's picture

This whole situation seems like one staged event after another. What should concern everyone is the fact that all of them are pushing toward larger conflict.

NotApplicable's picture

You know a better way to keep the banking system "solvent?"

Oh regional Indian's picture

I'll tell you one:

Wash it down with a really strong deter-gent ;-)