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Seen On The New Donetsk Republic Leader's Wall...

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Just a few days ago we highlighted what some had outlined as "Novorossiya" (New Russia) - the new territory being 'created' by the Russian Spring... today courtesy of @kdzieciol, we see it from a slightly different angle - on the wall of Denis Pushilin's office - the leader of the new independent Donetsk Republic...


"Map of #Ukraine redrawn at Donetsk Peoples' Republic leader Denis Pushilin's office. Room 1007"

Angle not clear enough? Here it is again:


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Mon, 05/12/2014 - 10:55 | 4750735 Badabing
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Looks like Farmville to me.

Mon, 05/12/2014 - 11:01 | 4750769 Sudden Debt
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I'm more a Kings of Camelot kind of player :)


Mon, 05/12/2014 - 11:01 | 4750774 cifo
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Makes sense.

Mon, 05/12/2014 - 11:03 | 4750786 ilion
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It's strange that couple of months ago, way before the Ukrainian crisis, couple of larger Forex brokers (CitiFX, Armada Markets, SaxoBank) introduced leveraged trading in USD/RUB. Are they expecting some kind of crash and now want to lure all of the retail crowd into this market?

Mon, 05/12/2014 - 11:10 | 4750812 ParkAveFlasher
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Lure retail, or dredge a channel to guide in the massive retail-yoking algo torpedos? 

Mon, 05/12/2014 - 11:14 | 4750827 NotApplicable
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Funny how that's a "mineral commodities" map.

Keep your eyes on the prize, no?

Mon, 05/12/2014 - 11:17 | 4750842 Save_America1st
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The West can't solve Vladimir Putin

They're tryin' to get him to shootin'

But this guy's too quick

His moves are too slick

His chess guess is best, no disputin'


Signed: the non-lymeric king (but thought I'd give a try for WB7)


Mon, 05/12/2014 - 11:29 | 4750896 BigJim
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Putin's success must not stand!
said the banksters reviewing their plan
'Say! I have an idea'
said a man at  the rear
Why don't we just bomb ol' Iran?

Mon, 05/12/2014 - 11:42 | 4750948 SafelyGraze
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left out moldova

Mon, 05/12/2014 - 11:51 | 4750976 BaBaBouy
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HEy, I GOT An IDEA, Let's Have The NEXT OLYMPICS Here !!!

Mon, 05/12/2014 - 12:01 | 4751027 Save_America1st
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I screwed my first limerick up and didn't even realize it...damn auto-complete must have changed "game" to "guess".  How stupid!  hahaha  Oh well...that's why WB7 is the true Limerick King. ;-)

One more try:


The West can't solve Vladimir Putin

They're tryin' to get him to shootin'

But this guy's too quick

His moves are too slick

His chess game is best, no disputin'


Signed: the non-limerick king (but thought I'd give a try for WB7)


Mon, 05/12/2014 - 12:18 | 4751093 THX 1178
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Whats POCCNR mean? Russia?

Mon, 05/12/2014 - 12:28 | 4751135 flacon
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Mon, 05/12/2014 - 13:08 | 4751275 quintago
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Duh. You thought Putin was going to allow them a port from which to transit? Are you nuts?

Mon, 05/12/2014 - 14:31 | 4751586 12ToothAssassin
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Writing is on the wall?

Mon, 05/12/2014 - 18:36 | 4752558 Unknown User
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That's because it is the map of what was called as New Russia during the Russian Empire times.

Mon, 05/12/2014 - 18:38 | 4752562 YuShun
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Yes; the message for the junta in Kiev
is "Mene, Mene, Tekel, Upharsin".

Mon, 05/12/2014 - 11:06 | 4750796 fonestar
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fonestar's wall:



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Mon, 05/12/2014 - 11:24 | 4750867 BlindMonkey
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You're killing me. LOL

Mon, 05/12/2014 - 11:25 | 4750875 FinalEvent
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Title of the map is:

*** The map of mineral commodities of ukraine ***

I bet this is no coincidence.


Mon, 05/12/2014 - 11:30 | 4750899 Oh regional Indian
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Fascinating. And anyoen else think the upper map looks like a Bear facing left? And a baby bear right behind it?

Or is it this new strain....


Mon, 05/12/2014 - 12:17 | 4751082 Dave Thomas
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Yeah it looks like a cute chubby water bear, they can survive for centuries in absolute zero without oxygen, they're also immune euronato pole-grabbers I hear.

Mon, 05/12/2014 - 11:42 | 4750950 Herd Redirectio...
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Crimea is important, so Russia has a year-round warm water port.  Eastern Ukraine is fairly mineral-rich (oil/gas + pipelines of course), and there is quite a lot of heavy industry.  But primarily Eastern Ukraine must be in Russian hands, to prevent NATO from stationing 'missile defences'  there (just like how the 'Defence' budget is used for empire building, what do you think missile 'defences' are for).

Mon, 05/12/2014 - 12:18 | 4751076 MrPalladium
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I must confess that as partial as I am to self determination and as sympathetic as I am to Russian speaking majorities trapped in an EU looted Ukraine, I will be very dissapointed if Ukraine is not left with significant port access to the Black sea. At a minimum Ukraine needs to be left with the Nickolaev Oblast and thus also Odessa. Putin needs to know where and when to stop.

Mon, 05/12/2014 - 12:41 | 4751185 Renewable Life
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As much as I agree with your spirit of compromise here, I'm pretty sure Putin is NOT pushing the issue here!

It will stop when the lunatics in the West stop trying to use the borders of other people's Country's as prison cells!! As Americans, we better stop eating fast food with our EBT card loot and start seeing that the same is destined for us, as what just happened in the Ukraine!

If the borders you live within aren't of your own making and they are not for YOUR benefit, then what are they??? Counties, States, Country's, aren't a religion, there fluid, living, entities like the people that live within them, they should be able to change and morph with the "will of the people", when they don't or can't, your no longer a free person, your a slave or servant at best, to those borders!!!

What is happening in the Unraine is profound and more revolutionary then almost anything since the colonies in 1776 or Africa in the early 20h century!!!!

Mon, 05/12/2014 - 14:30 | 4751582 gcjohns1971
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" I'm pretty sure Putin is NOT pushing the issue here!"


Then you are living in a cartoon.

Everyone has their fingers in the Ukraine.  That is the problem. 

Imagining politicians to be god-like is the problem, not the solution.

Mon, 05/12/2014 - 12:53 | 4751227 Volkodav
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Pretty much ignored what the people there want didn't you?



Mon, 05/12/2014 - 12:18 | 4751092 Dewey Cheatum Howe
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Being right on the doorstep isn't as important these days. The real question is how fast can Russian missle defense systems detect and react to a launch from lets say Poland.

That is a tech question I am not familiar with so if the empire still has the first strike time arbitrage advantage which I believe don't believe really means shit in this case since both sides can easily park subs right on the doorstep for a close first strike attack that being on the doorstep if in this case it is more about follow up after the fact.

But there is no one simple answer to this conflict since it is layered with territorial empire interests overlaping the empire's real objectives.

The core issues at play always revolve around the oldest standing people's and groups while the outer layers revolve around the newest people's and groups in the empire.

Mon, 05/12/2014 - 12:36 | 4751159 sushi
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A launch from Poland would impact Moscow within 5 minutes.

Russia has some extrremely sophisticated air defence systems, arguably the best in any military inventory. There is the P-400 and a forthcoming P-500 with an improved abilty to counter ICBMs.

But the real problem with close basing is the short reaction times involved. Somebody launches something out of Poland and the dude in Moscow has under 5 minutes to react to the threat. The best way to protect your birds is to fly your birds. Some asshole is shooting at you, what are you going to do? Dam straight you are going to fire back with as many bullets as you can of the greatest calibre you can muster. You are going to put him down and then double tap him to make sure he stays down.

Essentially the proposed NATO close basing ends up putting the entire world on a hair trigger basis. Your welfare now depends on the cognitive skills of some grunt who suspects he is about to be incinerated. Great system.


Mon, 05/12/2014 - 14:26 | 4751569 gcjohns1971
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Missile are big.  Support equipment is bigger.  They won't fit in 600 paratroopers carry-on luggage.

Flight time to Moscow is multiples of 5 minutes.  

Politician's declarations (including to join NATO) does not result in the magical creation of military hardware. Joining NATO results in an office being converted for the attache's use the requirement to reguarize certain support equipment on a voluntary basis in order to support military forces who will be equipped differently than the host nations'. 

To be frightened by a handful of bureacrats is not rational.  To conflate NATO membership or the arrival of 600 paratroopers with the presense of NUCLEAR weapons is not rational.  Is not sane.

Bombers do not carry ICBMs.  There is no point.  Bombers carry bombs.  If Russia objects to nuclear bombers near its borders it should cease telling other countries that its politicians will arrive in them.  It should cease invading others' airspace with them.

The irony is that Russia REGULARLY sends NUCLEAR BOMBERS into the CIVILIAN AIRSPACE of nations with whom it is not at war, but considers it to be nearly an act of war for those same others to have their equipment within 1000 miles of Russia.

Russia tells the world how it wishes to be treated with its actions toward others.  EVERY COUNTRY NEIGHBORING RUSSIA HAS BEEN INVADED AND OCCUPIED BY RUSSIA.




But Russia pretends not to understand why those countries fear Russia? Pretends not to know why those countries want powerful friends?

Pretends Chechnya an its other problems were created by others?

Sure, and every nook, cranny, and bush hides a CIA agent.  I found one in my shoe this morning.

This is pure paranoid insanity.

Mon, 05/12/2014 - 11:38 | 4750932 _ConanTheLibert...
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How many accounts do you have to + yourself??

Mon, 05/12/2014 - 11:50 | 4750982 fonestar
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The virtual people have spoken and the virtual people have submitted to a taste test.  They approve fonestar.

Mon, 05/12/2014 - 12:09 | 4750986 XAU XAG
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Vote up!

Vote down!


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Canot see a thing on that map..............oh thats because it ain't real! LOL



now had that been a map of silver/gold it would be much full filled

Mon, 05/12/2014 - 11:04 | 4750778 ilion
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Putin vs Obummer: 2 - 0

Mon, 05/12/2014 - 11:16 | 4750839 101 years and c...
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putin has pants'ed obama more than 2x.  dont forget syria.  putint to west: we'll take ukraine or we shut off your oil and nat gas.  and you financial bubbles all burst.  west to putin: you can have it.  just, for the love of god, dont pop our bubble.

Mon, 05/12/2014 - 11:40 | 4750928 ParkAveFlasher
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The problem with the West's threats is that the West equates "banking" with "economy", so as the West threatens the Russian currency, the West believes it is engaging in dastardly provocations ... however the West, in doing so, ironically, unconsciously, is only revealing the depth (or "debth") of its own decay.  The emperor truly has no clothes, and can't see its own reflection in the shiny pipelines of real goods and real energy that Putin chooses to lord over.  Currency is a means, not an end, unless you are financialized economy with no "growing" output but reserve currency (like, say, the US), reserve currency essentially being sheets of paper that globally denominate the prices of large volumes of real goods at the expense of, securitization by, or backing of any real value created by the American citizen taxpayer.  The West, perhaps specifically the US of A as London is filled with sharp, cagey, MFers who are likely controlling any- and everything under the sun with an English name, is unconsciously destroying itself moment by moment, however this destruction, if not acknowledged, will be literal rather than spiritual, as it should. 

Mon, 05/12/2014 - 11:47 | 4750965 Herd Redirectio...
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Banking and the economy have definitely become synonymous in the 'Civilized World'.

Just yesterday I was reading about some interesting fiat experiments from the past.  One was "the short string" standard, which meant if you had 770 bronze coins, it was treated as 1000 bronze coins (sucks for the guy with less than 770 coins, thats for sure).  Used in China.

The other was the original paper fiat currency.  I heard merchants would stop accepting the newly issued fiat, and in cartel-like fashion, decide which FORMER regime's fiat to use instead.  It was a way for the merchant groups to try to take some of the power from the state, by refusing to accept newly issued fiat.

Mon, 05/12/2014 - 12:10 | 4751061 ParkAveFlasher
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If you have access to real goods, and firm human connections, and knowledge of the real marketplace which by implication indicates knowledge of real human need, why would you accept anything less than quality in exchange for what you may offer? 

Any recommended reading?

Mon, 05/12/2014 - 12:57 | 4751236 Herd Redirectio...
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I am currently reading 1493 (which the above anecdotes are from), and also a big fan of Anatoly Fomenko, but a lot of his work has not been translated to English, so I am stuck using Google Translate...  Which honestly must be similar to what it was like for scholars 400 years ago, digging into archives, and reading foreign scripts, different styles of handwriting, trying to decipher what exactly you are reading!

Mon, 05/12/2014 - 16:56 | 4752259 udecker
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In my experience, it's the best way to learn something - try to read it in its original language, when you don't know the original language.  It really makes you try to decipher why they wrote what they wrote how they wrote it.

Mon, 05/12/2014 - 13:29 | 4751355 eatthebanksters
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It's super easy to pants someone wearing 'mommy jeans...Putin has give him the atomic wedgie as well...'

Mon, 05/12/2014 - 11:21 | 4750858 Winston Churchill
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89-0 by my count. Countries that is, now firmly on Russia's side of the fence.
Way beyond critical mass.

Mon, 05/12/2014 - 11:44 | 4750956 beegle
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what abou Syria


Putin vs Obummer 3 - 0

Mon, 05/12/2014 - 11:04 | 4750791 BanksterSlayer
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wait ... Ukraine ISN'T in Pakistan??!!


[reference: CNN official staff cartographers]

Mon, 05/12/2014 - 11:38 | 4750931 indygo55
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This should get that water problem in Crimea worked out.

Mon, 05/12/2014 - 13:12 | 4751287 bh2
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Yep. The Ukrainian Navy will soon be renamed the Ukrainian River Patrol and can sell off all those blue-water vessels to the highest bidder -- probably to good neighbor, Russia, in exchange for gas supplies.

Mon, 05/12/2014 - 10:55 | 4750736 Charles The Ham...
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Seems Staged

Mon, 05/12/2014 - 11:01 | 4750770 Gene Parmesan
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This whole situation seems like one staged event after another. What should concern everyone is the fact that all of them are pushing toward larger conflict.

Mon, 05/12/2014 - 11:15 | 4750831 NotApplicable
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You know a better way to keep the banking system "solvent?"

Mon, 05/12/2014 - 11:23 | 4750866 Oh regional Indian
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I'll tell you one:

Wash it down with a really strong deter-gent ;-)

Mon, 05/12/2014 - 11:26 | 4750872 Gene Parmesan
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The ends apparently justify the any means necessary after all.

Mon, 05/12/2014 - 13:35 | 4751377 gcjohns1971
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The problem is that everyone looks at this Gang War and believes they see a white hat on one or the other.

It is wishful thinking at best, and wanton insanity at worst.

Europe is in this for access to energy.

Russia is in this to subordinate Europe to its will by means of energy.

The US is in this to retain power and influence in Europe.




Mon, 05/12/2014 - 15:08 | 4751763 Debugas
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it reminds me how Stalin and Hitler secretly decided to devide Poland right before they went into direct conflict

WW3 is on the horizon

Mon, 05/12/2014 - 11:04 | 4750776 CrashisOptimistic
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My first thought too, but look at the drawn lettering.  It's pretty hard to photoshop the part in the window reflection to be appropriately lighter than the rest.

If you were going to photoshop lettering onto a map photo, you'd do it on the photo itself.  It would be equally dark lettering.

It could be done before the photo was taken, but that would mean it exists in that office.


Mon, 05/12/2014 - 11:07 | 4750803 Gene Parmesan
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Who's to say that's even the guy's office? The whole region stinks.

Mon, 05/12/2014 - 11:16 | 4750837 BigJim
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++ Bingo :-)

Mon, 05/12/2014 - 11:03 | 4750782 mvsjcl
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Staged or not, the message is clear. And someone wants that message to be known.

Mon, 05/12/2014 - 12:49 | 4751160 Dewey Cheatum Howe
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Yep, but message being sent is already known by the low brow fringe tinfoil hat wearing dickweed ZH regulars. It is more for those just tuning in.

Now for someone who can actually read what the map says.

The question is which language and what does it say?

The other question is if they are fucking with the Jesuits at the same time then what does 1007 mean in numerology? See if any curious ZH'rs want to answer this one by using the digital library.





Mon, 05/12/2014 - 12:59 | 4751238 Herd Redirectio...
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I don't know, but I do know 2014/2 = 1007.

Hopefully the world is not about to be carved in two!

Mon, 05/12/2014 - 13:17 | 4751311 Dewey Cheatum Howe
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Use the search Luke. The world already is carved into at least 2 or else the conflict wouldn't be happening now would it. Good catch on the secondary meaning though.



Mon, 05/12/2014 - 14:09 | 4751498 MarsInScorpio
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People like you are truly disgusting.


If we are so bad, what are you doing hanging out with us?


If you think we are mental midgets, leave.


Don't let the blast wave hit you in the ass.


Mon, 05/12/2014 - 14:27 | 4751571 Dewey Cheatum Howe
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You know about leading John Kerry's to water....

Then explain to us why people like me are so disgusting and explain why you are so good then.

If we are so bad, what are you doing hanging out with us?

You know the answer to that one if you know how to think, not what to think.

So far no one has answered the questions I put forth and that is and of itself an answer.



Mon, 05/12/2014 - 15:41 | 4751935 JuliaS
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"Seems Staged". We're talking about the coup, right?

Mon, 05/12/2014 - 10:56 | 4750740 kato
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Putin has his Quislings. Some day he will have his Pétain.

Mon, 05/12/2014 - 10:57 | 4750748 0b1knob
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He's got his Obama.  What else does he need?

Mon, 05/12/2014 - 11:02 | 4750781 Headbanger
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Hope and change alright...  for East Ukrainians!

Mon, 05/12/2014 - 11:04 | 4750789 Snidley Whipsnae
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"What else does he need?"


If for no other reason than to deny control of the port to any other state.

Mon, 05/12/2014 - 11:09 | 4750811 Headbanger
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I think a bridge or a tunnel connecting Crimea to Russia is soon coming.

Take a look at the red border between Crime and Ukraine on Google Earth now.

I think we'll soon see moar red lines there.. drawn by Putin!

Mon, 05/12/2014 - 11:25 | 4750873 Snidley Whipsnae
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Chinese companies are already discussing the financing/building of a bridge from Russia to Crimea (across Kerch Straight).

In addition, Russia is discussing using it's own sovereign wealth fund to build the bridge.

Cost estimates run from 1.2 to 3 billion $... probably yuan or rubles or oil/gas or gold or whatever.

Mon, 05/12/2014 - 11:35 | 4750919 Headbanger
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Now that makes sense. Hopefully it will benefit the people of Crimea so they have a better life.

Mon, 05/12/2014 - 12:17 | 4751077 Herd Redirectio...
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The bridge will cost:

A lot of steel  (likely sourced locally)

A lot of labor (likely sourced externally)

Engineering talent (likely sourced locally)

And oil and gas to be sold, in exchange (indirectly of course, as engineers are not at this time used to being paid in natural gas)

Mon, 05/12/2014 - 12:29 | 4751137 Headbanger
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The Kerch Strait looks to be about three miles across and very shallow.

I'm not a civil ingineer but I would think the bridge would be mostly reinforced concrete piers with a 300 meter or so central steel arch..

The Crimea could become a a nice tourist spot for the Ruskies.

Mon, 05/12/2014 - 12:33 | 4751150 Herd Redirectio...
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Probably would still have to provide access to shipping through there.  But yes, same as you, building bridges  is not my day job.

Just wanted to illustrate the importance of getting away from thinking in terms of USD.  Accounting during high inflation isn't that difficult.  It just isn't useful or comparable.

Mon, 05/12/2014 - 12:46 | 4751201 ParkAveFlasher
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As LOP would say, "tick tock". 

Mon, 05/12/2014 - 11:17 | 4750841 luckylogger
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If he likes his obama, he can keep it..................PLEASE

Mon, 05/12/2014 - 11:01 | 4750768 Gringo Viejo
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The Doughnut Republic. I like it!

Mon, 05/12/2014 - 10:57 | 4750743 _ConanTheLibert...
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I envision a new Berlin Wall between West and East Ukraine or actually between East Ukraine and Russia.

Mon, 05/12/2014 - 10:59 | 4750756 NoDebt
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Yeah, but this time it may be the West putting it up.

Mon, 05/12/2014 - 12:48 | 4751208 ParkAveFlasher
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In Mexico, they have already discussed building a wall between North Bananarama and South Bananarama.  Of course, the purpose for that wall was communicated as something altogether different...

Mon, 05/12/2014 - 11:41 | 4750944 _ConanTheLibert...
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Correction: between West-Ukraine and Russia

Mon, 05/12/2014 - 10:56 | 4750744 pupton
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West takes wreckless misstep in Ukraine, Russia masterfully re-raises and comes out #winning!

Mon, 05/12/2014 - 11:03 | 4750783 cifo
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Because Putin is not only a chess master, but a Judo expert too.

Mon, 05/12/2014 - 11:05 | 4750798 Sudden Debt
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And a very good hunter

And a very good tank driver

And a very good soldier

And a very good dragon slayer

And a very good fisherman

And a very good superman

And a very good exorcist



Mon, 05/12/2014 - 11:10 | 4750815 Spastica Rex
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And the very sight of his shirtless body causes men to enter a state of sexual vigour, eager to plant the seed of their loins in the bellies of their women.

Mon, 05/12/2014 - 11:14 | 4750829 Gavrikon
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Funny, that's how I NORMALLY feel.

Mon, 05/12/2014 - 11:29 | 4750894 Oh regional Indian
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Welcome to the metrosexual revolution.

For all porn watchers by the way....ah, well, never mind...


Mon, 05/12/2014 - 11:30 | 4750893 BlindMonkey
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Yeah. Once you go with a Russian chick nothing else will satisfy!

Mon, 05/12/2014 - 12:30 | 4751140 Headbanger
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Please don't go there..  Did I ever tell you the story of when I was in...

Never mind, I was never there...

Mon, 05/12/2014 - 11:37 | 4750925 falak pema
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in the bellies of their menopaused...

well, that Russia's problem ! 

They have a choice between massive unemployment if their young ones sprout and massive recession if they don't. 

Why can't Ukrainians eat Baklava all day like Marie Antoinette said and dance in Kazantip music festival all night?

Leave Putin to gas his horse up on Gazprom's fart pump. And Nuland to hump Right Sektor muscledom.

Neo-cons, fascists and neo-romanovs make such déjà vu cocktails, its depressingly rinse n repeat.  

Mon, 05/12/2014 - 13:02 | 4751254 Herd Redirectio...
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Tomorrow's dosage = today's dosage / 2

Mon, 05/12/2014 - 15:26 | 4751855 free_lunch
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In JUDO, use of the spirit has always had the upper hand over use of bodily strength.
Using the force of your opponent in your advantage (when he pulls, you push).

Mon, 05/12/2014 - 10:57 | 4750747 q99x2
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Secession is an answer.

Mon, 05/12/2014 - 11:03 | 4750785 anarcholeptic
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Northern Aggression!

Mon, 05/12/2014 - 10:59 | 4750752 ZH Snob
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I can't see it with all the glare, but I get the gist: the calls have been made and the fix is in. 

the blackwater bullies will have no impact. they are scared to death of the Russian army.  they prefer unarmed civilians, women and children, if possible.

Mon, 05/12/2014 - 11:12 | 4750820 ParkAveFlasher
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Blackwater = armored toll booth operators.  Unionized, to boot.

Mon, 05/12/2014 - 11:00 | 4750760 Yen Cross
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    I'll bet El Presidente' "stompy feet" is having a hissy fit over that map.

Mon, 05/12/2014 - 11:00 | 4750761 rlouis
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Russian spring

Mon, 05/12/2014 - 12:56 | 4751233 A82EBA
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thats good !

Mon, 05/12/2014 - 11:02 | 4750777 pods
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There is no way they are going to allow (the west that is) a landlocked Ukraine.  If that scenario is planned, they better stock bodybags and lots of them.


Mon, 05/12/2014 - 11:04 | 4750793 anarcholeptic
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Who needs bodybags when they're all vaporized from the initial blast?

Mon, 05/12/2014 - 11:08 | 4750806 CrashisOptimistic
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Yup.  The loss of Odessa would be crushing, but even with Odessa, it's important to note that they lose everything anyway.

The major agriculture AND industry is in the east.  They have forest in the west, and ethnic Poles whose brethren in Poland fill every train into the EU to work at cut rate wages in construction jobs.

The country's primary refinery is in the east, too, along with 2/3 the little oil production they have.

Mon, 05/12/2014 - 11:14 | 4750823 Gavrikon
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Well, it's their own fucking fault.  Monsanto/Chevron land grab isn't going to work in Ukraine like it supposedly does with the BLM in Nevada.

Fuck you, you fucking fuckers!

Especially you, Nuland.

Mon, 05/12/2014 - 11:25 | 4750877 Matt
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Can ships go all the way to Kiev? I mean for oil tankers, supermax cargo container ships.

Mon, 05/12/2014 - 11:35 | 4750921 CrashisOptimistic
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Good Question.

The ZH research team now has to investigate breadth and depth of that river along the whole route.

FYI that big refinery is near the river.

Mon, 05/12/2014 - 13:08 | 4751276 Herd Redirectio...
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I don't think so.  Supermax? 

"its reservoirs have large ship locks, allowing vessels of up to 270 by 18 metres (886 ft × 59 ft)"

Panamax is 120 ft wide.

Mon, 05/12/2014 - 13:10 | 4751278 Herd Redirectio...
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Looks like the Dnieper is roughly comparable to the Suez Canal in terms of ship size & navigability.

Mon, 05/12/2014 - 11:45 | 4750963 shovelhead
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No problem.

They can borrow the 120' of Moldavian beachfront.

Mon, 05/12/2014 - 11:11 | 4750816 kchrisc
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That's how the cookie crumbles.

Mon, 05/12/2014 - 11:11 | 4750818 Gavrikon
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I'm buying some property in Tiraspol.

Fuck you, Obama!

Mon, 05/12/2014 - 11:13 | 4750824 Kirk2NCC1701
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Tyler, what do the color bands on the map mean?

Mon, 05/12/2014 - 11:14 | 4750828 Lin S
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Does anyone have the link to the map of the carved-up USA?

Mon, 05/12/2014 - 11:19 | 4750850 BigJim
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Yes, but instead of  'Russia', the writing reads 'Rothschild's'.

Mon, 05/12/2014 - 11:28 | 4750891 marcusfenix
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if anybody is wondering what Washington's response is...

"The US Strategic Command, the agency responsible for country’s nuclear arsenal, will hold large-scale war games this week that will include 10 B-52 Stratofortresses and up to six B-2 Spirit bombers, along with other military and government agencies.

The Boeing B-52 Stratofortress is a long-range, subsonic, jet-powered strategic bomber built to carry nuclear weapons.

The Northrop Grumman B-2 Spirit, also known as the Stealth Bomber, is an American strategic bomber, designed for penetrating dense anti-aircraft defenses that can drop up to sixteen 1,100 kg B83 nuclear bombs.

The exercise will be conducted from May 12-16 and is set “to deter and detect strategic attacks against the US and its allies,” the Strategic Command said in a statement.

“This exercise provides unique training opportunities to incorporate the most current technology and techniques in support of our mission. Continued focus and investment in our strategic capabilities allow US Stratcom to deter, dissuade, and defeat current and future threats to the U.S. and our allies.” said Admiral Cecil Haney, head of Strategic Command.

StratCom is the US’s nuclear command and is responsible for space operations, global strike, global missile defense; and global command, control, communications, computers, intelligence, surveillance and reconnaissance, and combating weapons of mass destruction.

Though the timing of the exercise was declared as “unrelated to real-world events,” it does come on the heels of the recent war games in Russia. Announced in November 2013, military drills on countering nuclear strikes were overseen by President Vladimir Putin ahead of the May 9 celebrations dedicated to victory in World War II

Contrary to the openness of the Russian war games, the US Strategic Command released very few details about the upcoming exercise.

Relations between Moscow and Washington have worsened significantly over the situation in Ukraine. The US continues to endorse and support a military operation by Kiev’s coup-installed government against federalization supporters in the southeast of the country.

Last week, NATO said it may permanently station additional troops in Eastern Europe as a defensive measure against Moscow. Russia views this recent buildup of NATO forces as a provocation and counterproductive in the struggle to deescalate tensions in Ukraine." now they are bringing out the nuclear bombers, because that will surely calm things right down. and does GSC seriously expect anyone to believe that this has nothing to do with the current situation in eastern Europe?

I always liked the old Chinese proverb "may you live in interesting times".

but I think this is quickly turning into the wrong kind of interesting.

Mon, 05/12/2014 - 11:37 | 4750927 Quinvarius
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Probably going to bomb the Bundy Ranch.

Mon, 05/12/2014 - 11:53 | 4750992 IridiumRebel
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Well, there is interesting and then there is WE ALL GONNA FUCKIN DIE!!!!!

Mon, 05/12/2014 - 12:06 | 4751051 marcusfenix
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Mon, 05/12/2014 - 12:34 | 4751154 Kirk2NCC1701
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So the Aliens/Clingons win.

Mon, 05/12/2014 - 12:50 | 4751215 ParkAveFlasher
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Wake me when you see fallout shelters in grammar schools and bomb drills after lunch hour.  Oh, it's been that way since the 1940's?  Nevermind!

Mon, 05/12/2014 - 12:02 | 4751037 besnook
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the b-52 (and the b-17) is the most beautiful plane in the sky. just thought i'd throw that in there. sorry. continue.

Mon, 05/12/2014 - 12:18 | 4751089 marcusfenix
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I saw one fly into Hancock once, low and right over my back yard, it was massive, loud and it looked like it was moving so slow that I that I thought it was going to just drop right out of the sky. we were used to the f-16's that were stationed there, but that b-52 was very, very impressive.

Mon, 05/12/2014 - 21:25 | 4753078 mendolover
Mon, 05/12/2014 - 11:41 | 4750947 JR
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US Army soldiers are not in East Ukraine firing on the innocents who want separation; but they are the same US-paid mercenaries (Blackwater) forced to change their name after earlier atrocities. It’s the same as having Navy Seals, Army paratroopers, or US Marines; they are all paid for by the US taxpayer to create the war in Ukraine to benefit the international IMF banking cartel.

Among the candidates of hired mercenaries that were contracted by the West “to suppress civil protests and dissatisfaction,” er, “to bring democracy and freedom” to Ukraine by violently overthrowing her elected government in February, according to the Russian Foreign Ministry (and confirmed by German journalists, as reported by ZH yesterday) “for the role of gendarme is the Barbados-registered company Greystone Limited, which is integrated with the Academi corporation."

Says the ministry, “It is an analogue, and, probably an affiliated body of the Blackwater private army, whose employees have repeatedly been accused of committing grievous and systematic human rights abuses in different troubled regions.”

Infowars sheds further light. “Academi was known as Blackwater and then Xe following its involvement in the murder of 17 Iraqis in Nisour Square, Baghdad, in 2007. Academi’s board of directors includes former Attorney General John Ashcroft, Bobby Ray Inman, the former director of the NSA, and the company’s CEO is a retired Brigadier General, Craig Nixon.

Mon, 05/12/2014 - 11:48 | 4750975 Nevsky
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Good explanation to the map above. Write up is so so, but maps is all you need to see.


P.S.: notice this is from Dec 2013. Nobody at WH connected the dots, or is it part of flexibility?

Mon, 05/12/2014 - 11:52 | 4750991 rodonmeguro
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Ukranians remember Russian Cheka favorite game of 'run around the telegraph pole.' Russian Cheka slits Ukranian's stomach, pulls out intestine and sticks it to telegraph pole with knife; then whips Ukranian and chases him around pole until intestines all wrapped around it. Cheka liked this game; killed 8 million or so Ukranians and took their land for Russians. Now it's Russia land.

Mon, 05/12/2014 - 11:55 | 4751003 IridiumRebel
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Yes let's talk about history from another time that is basically unrelated besides geography instead of pertinent subject matter like military flame stoking by both sides and the escalation to a war that will make cheka look like a playground fist fight....

Mon, 05/12/2014 - 13:54 | 4751443 rodonmeguro
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So Chamberlinesque, the repudiation of Russia's past brutality and nivate that it won't happen again. It will, and it won't stop with the Ukranians. The tin-foil hat crowd here can't get past the conspiracy goblins and comprehend just where the evil lies.

Mon, 05/12/2014 - 14:33 | 4751595 TheFourthStooge-ing
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Again with that trick of guilt by association? USSR not equivalent to Russia.

People never grow weary of their own propaganda. So same answer as usual, no matter how hard you wish for it not to be, reality exist outside you.

Mon, 05/12/2014 - 12:09 | 4751058 JR
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The new name for Cheka is Blackwater; the Bolsheviki techniques have been adopted by the Bolshevik bankers pushing their web of debt slavery all over the globe.

Since the end of WWII, there could have been peace and human progress but not in the world of international bankers; they just couldn’t stop the slaughter of innocents and the constant drive to control the world for their evil power.

What’s your purpose in reviving Cheka horror to use against a people interested not in war but in independence?

Here’s your Cheka, now relocated in Washington, DC:

Robert Wilton, correspondent of the London Times in Russia for 17 years, in his foreword to Les Derniers Jours des Romanoffs, listed the members of the [Bolshevik Party’s] Central Committee, of the Extraordinary Commission [Cheka or secret police], and of the Council of Commissars functioning at the time of the assassination of the Imperial family.

“The 62 members of the [Central] Committee were composed of five Russians, one Ukrainian, six Letts [Latvians], two Germans, one Czech, two Armenians, three Georgians, one Karaim [Karaite] (a Jewish sect), and 41 Jews.

“The Extraordinary Commission [Cheka or Vecheka] of Moscow was composed of 36 members, including one German, one Pole, one Armenian, two Russians, eight Latvians, and 23 Jews.

The Council of the People’s Commissar [the Soviet government] numbered two Armenians, three Russians, and 17 Jews.

“According to data furnished by the Soviet press, out of 556 important functionaries of the Bolshevik state, including the above-mentioned, in 1918-1919 there were: 17 Russians, two Ukrainians, eleven Armenians, 35 Letts [Latvians], 15 Germans, one Hungarian, ten Georgians, three Poles, three Finns, one Czech, one Karaim, and 457 Jews…”

Effective governmental power, Wilton continued, is in the Central Committee of the Bolshevik party.  In 1918, he reported, this body had twelve members, of whom nine were of Jewish origin—Bronstein (Trotsky), Apfelbaum (Zinoviev), Lurie (Larine, Uritsky, Volodarski, Rosenfeld (Kamenev), Smidovich, Sverdlov (Yankel), and Nakhamkes (Steklov).  The three Russians were Ulyanov (Lenin), Krylenko, and Lunacharshy.

Said Wilton, “The other Russian Socialist parties are similar in composition,” and he gives the compositions.

A public opinion poll conducted in 1990 found that three out of four Soviet citizens surveyed regarded the killing of the Tsar and the family as a despicable crime.  – The Nation, June 24, 1991, p. 838

One isn’t supposed to say it, but America sealed her fate when, under the Clinton Administration, “the White House, the Senate, and much of the American media”  (and now the House of Representatives and soon to be the U.S. Supreme Court) fell, as the Israelis put it, “in our hands.”

This statement came from Israeli columnist Ari Shavit in an article reprinted from the Israel newspaper Haaretz in the May 27, 1996 issue of the New York Times as he reflected sorrowfully on the wanton Israeli killing of more than 100 Lebanese civilians that April.  Bill Clinton, “the lover of peace,” had raised no protest when the Israelis drove 400,000 innocent Lebanese out of their homes in “retaliation” for rockets launched into Israel, wounding one Israeli.

Mon, 05/12/2014 - 12:27 | 4751131 novictim
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Okhrana->Checka-> NKVD->KGB->FSB

The new name for "Checka" is FSB. The FSB claims direct descendence.

Mon, 05/12/2014 - 12:46 | 4751200 JR
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Why on earth are you taking the side of the IMF-financed butchers in this struggle - the US-paid mercenaries who killed the unharmed protesters in Odessa, the Ukrainian National Guard troops who shot and killed Ukrainians attempting peacefully to vote in the referendum: all events clearly evidenced in Internet videos, AP reports, and German news reports?

Here’s Ron Paul yesterday on the events and the comment by Jen Psaki:

“In several eastern Ukrainian towns over the past week, the military opened fire on its own citizens. Dozens may have been killed in the violence. Although the US government generally condemns a country’s use of military force against its own population, especially if they are unarmed protesters, this time the US Administration blamed the victims. After as many as 20 unarmed protesters were killed on the May 9 holiday in Ukraine, the State Department spokesman said, ‘We condemn the outbreak of violence caused by pro-Russian separatists.’”

I really would like to know, if you are an American, why are you are siding with a State Department lie as explained here by Ron Paul?

Tue, 05/13/2014 - 14:10 | 4755749 novictim
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You use too much loaded rhetoric, shallow emotive terms to be taken seriously, JR.


Regarding this clown and disgrace to the medical profession, Ron Paul..."pfft!"

And let him know that if his bullshit Texas tries to secede I would personally pull the trigger on every one of those who stepped forward in advocacy.  EVERY SINGLE ONE.

The Russian nationalist insurgency in Ukraine deserves the same treatment.  


Tue, 05/13/2014 - 14:59 | 4755967 TheFourthStooge-ing
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And let him know that if his bullshit Texas tries to secede I would personally pull the trigger on every one of those who stepped forward in advocacy.  EVERY SINGLE ONE.

You use too much loaded rhetoric, shallow emotive terms to be taken seriously, novictim.

The Russian nationalist insurgency in Ukraine deserves the same treatment.

In the Banderastani order, Ukrainian Yatzi Junta Citizenists have a right to aggression, other have no right to self defense.

Anyone looking for a Chemical Ali position, there is a real talent here.

Tue, 05/13/2014 - 21:16 | 4757355 novictim
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Only a nutter on ZH would think that small portions of the country, the industrial portions no less, would have the right to secede!.  

I don't need to invoke the 1992 Ukraine constitution to validate that position...but since it does...for a province to secede then the entireity of Ukraine needs to decide if it can.  

And while I'm at it, why would you not just advocate for the 5/25/2014 election to help decide the future course in Ukraine?  Why are you spurring on idiots to get themselves killed when a political solution is possible?

ZH has a lot to answer for. 

Mon, 05/12/2014 - 13:29 | 4751354 rodonmeguro
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Your nuts, seek help. What a load of rotten garbage.

Tue, 05/13/2014 - 14:15 | 4755784 novictim
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I am with you, JR, on being in direct opposition to private security services replacing US Military Personnel. 

I am against all these libertarian crap advocates for privatizing government from local to state to is all a way to create a crony constituency for the purpose of shaking down campaign dollars in the quid pro quo.

But ZH is in favor of privatization.  

Mon, 05/12/2014 - 12:11 | 4751065 IndianaJohn
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There are uncomfortable (for some) details on Cheka leadership;

Mon, 05/12/2014 - 12:33 | 4751148 Nevsky
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Very interesting, thank you.


A few paragrphs jumped out:

Solzhenitsyn argues that some Jewish satire of the revolutionary period "consciously or unconsciously descends on the Russians" as being behind the genocide. But he states that all the nation's ethnic groups must share the blame, and that people shy away from speaking the truth about the Jewish experience. 


he added: "But it is impossible to find the answer to the eternal question: who is to be blamed, who led us to our death? To explain the actions of the Kiev cheka [secret police] only by the fact that two thirds were Jews, is certainly incorrect."


"My book was directed to empathise with the thoughts, feelings and the psychology of the Jews - their spiritual component," he said. "I have never made general conclusions about a people. I will always differentiate between layers of Jews. One layer rushed headfirst to the revolution. Another, to the contrary, was trying to stand back..."

Interestingly it reminds me of the heavy involvment of the American [mostly secular layer of] Jews in the DNC, which for most purposes have become a soft Communist Party. One might speculate as to why, but that is a topic for another conversation.

Mon, 05/12/2014 - 13:27 | 4751349 JR
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Your references are from 2003 and since then there have been additional reviews of  Solzhenitsyn’s banned book, “Jews in The Soviet Union - Two Hundred Years Together.”

This is a review of Solzhenitsyn’s book by James de Juste that was posted at on April 29, 2010 with later updates.

Amazon notes that “Two Hundred Years Together is an important book by an important author that has not been able to find an English language publisher anywhere in the world.”

The reviewer explains why: “It’s clear that no publisher of books in English will touch it—the publishing business, of course, being Jewish dominated. The book has been in existence for some years, and why a major book by a major writer and important ethical force in the Twentieth—or any other—century like Solzhenitsyn, should be ignored is a mystery unless it is viewed as anti-Semitic by the field of Jewish publishers, and that would be the cause of it being stonewalled.”

Said the reviewer of Solzhenitsyn’s book :

"This book can and should be taken as an extreme cautionary tale to Americans.

“What the Jews did nearly one hundred years ago to the Russians, the circumstances are setting up in a similar way to have the same kind of thing happen in the USA. Instead of Communism the flag will be the New World Order. And as Trotsky (Lev Bronstein) wanted Communism to go international, so will go the New World Order. With the very, very quiet almost infinite wealth and power of the Rothschilds behind this, you know that it is slowly coming about.”

Writes de Juste: “In any event, several chapters from ‘Two Hundred Years Together’ were translated for the book, ‘The Solzhenitsyn Reader’. So my review comments here are based on those several chapters:

Solzhenitsyn “discusses the roles of both the Russians’ and the Jews’ in the Bolshevik revolution. With the revolution, the Tsarist bureaucracy was kaput. There, aside from the Jew Trotsky and Jews of high Bolshevik rank, e.g., Zinoviev, et al., he notes the vast assignment of Jews to Bolshevik commissars, organizational, and administrative jobs, to collegiums and presidiums, and how much of that was then cruelly administered by those Jews toward the Russians…

“As yet, as I have seen in those few translated chapters – or not seen – there was no mention of the hideous and cowardly murder of the Russian royal family by the Jews, or of the largess of New York Jewish International banking money that financed Trotsky to start the revolution, monies which were not donated from a pure Socialist motivation but from a Capitalist one, a motivation toward a substantial return on investment, which indeed paid off. Those sub-plots would supposedly have to be included in the full book if we ever see it released in English.”

Mon, 05/12/2014 - 14:44 | 4751643 Nevsky
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Please read more carefully this time.


The references are not 'mine', but from the article IndianaJohn posted, which is of 2003. 

Furthermore, they, as the article states, they are not quotes from some opinionated reviewer, but rather Solzhenistsin himself.


Good day.

Mon, 05/12/2014 - 16:48 | 4752224 JR
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It's a mystery to me how these references (referring to documents by someone) were brought down to us from IndianaJohn if not by you. I was simply adding later references to the ones you provided. As they say in New York: "You got a problem with that?". Is the buck supposed to stop with you?

Mon, 05/12/2014 - 16:58 | 4752271 Nevsky
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It's a mystery to you that people respond to other people's comments by highlighting things they find interesting in the other people's links?


The mystery that may ingrigue some is why do you keep reffering to Solzhenistsin's description of his own book as 'references'? And post other people's opinion as if more definitive of the book than author's own description of it. Mystery indeed.

Mon, 05/12/2014 - 12:37 | 4751166 Volkodav
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get lost idiot


Mon, 05/12/2014 - 12:00 | 4751015 besnook
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fucking, absolutely, genius brilliant. putin says to the usa, "you want ukrainian spring? we give you russian version. lol. what are you going to do about it? invade? lol!) merkel wants to bomb london and paris like the good old days.

Mon, 05/12/2014 - 12:49 | 4751214 sondernauch
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Who would waste a single bomb on Londinistan?

Mon, 05/12/2014 - 12:00 | 4751029 DIgnified
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No one can say theyre not ambitious. 

Mon, 05/12/2014 - 12:09 | 4751057 ASACJon
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With all due respect to the Durdens on this,we are really, really reaching for an excuse to make the Russo-Ukraine side somehow malevolent.


A guy who is in an empoverished country took a greese pencil to a map indicating hope for an enthnically-sensible (and majorly economically sensible) unification. At worst, it is excessive patriotism.


Contrast this with actual banker/neo-Nazi CIA and Wall Street goons who openly threaten an entire enthnolinguistic group with violence. Nay, they actually show a willingness to do it, including burning people alive.


We should cover all sides, but this 'report' is just silly.

Mon, 05/12/2014 - 12:33 | 4751149 JR
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War happens when one side refuses to surrender their freedom to an attacker. And we are in the early stages of a people declaring their intention to be free.

As you have expertly described, the violence and threats are being thrust upon East Ukrainians; the warmongering is coming from the US-based IMF thrust. And a grease pencil sign of hope may just be the most important piece of news in the world today.

The front page of the NY Times today makes no mention of the East Ukrainian referendum; the Drudge Report and other so-called news outlets are silent as well.

This is called cover up, covering the atrocities of one’s government for purposes of receiving money and favors. The whole thing is not unlike the NY Times most famous cover up: Stalin’s 1932-33 mass starvation and extinction of 7.5 million Ukrainians while the Times’ propagandist and correspondent, the notorious leftist Walter Duranty, almost single-handedly aided and abetted one of the world's most prolific mass murderers, covering up what he knew to be true.

The cover up this time ain’t gonna work; and the reason? The Internet and sites such as Zero Hedge and Global Research. Here is just one example of US-induced terrorism revealed today by the latter:

Welcome to Nulandistan: A Multimedia Look at What the US and EU Have Unleashed on Ukraine

By Mahdi Darius Nazemroaya

Global Research, May 12, 2014

Thanks for your post.

Mon, 05/12/2014 - 12:20 | 4751100 novictim
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Interesting map.  "The Autonomous Republic of Crimea" fascinates me.

When will Crimea become autonomous, I wonder?  

Didn't Czarina Vladima declare Crimea now a part of Russia?  Yes, he did do that.  LOL

Mon, 05/12/2014 - 13:48 | 4751371 Kirk2NCC1701
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Call it "Reversion to the Mean", so to speak.  Maps do change every so many years historically, and it's been Russia for most of its history.

In the past they have changed because a Ruler made a military conquest and changed it unilaterally/politically.  Only now -- most recently -- have the people of various regions in the political entity known as Ukraine taken things into their own hands, and put into practice the idea that "Maps and borders do not define people.  People define borders." 

In effect, "The will of the People" is now deciding where borders should be, rather than Rulers, Kings, Tyrants, Aristocrats or Bureaucrats in a far away place deciding it for them.  Many (myself included) would argue that many modern political problems have their roots in such willy-nilly and fiat decisions as to where to draw political boundaries, aka "borders".  The ME has plenty of examples of this phenomenon, where British aristocrats drew arbitrary boundaries for most of the ME -- and (inadvertedely or deliberately) ignored the natural boundaries of geology, race, culture and religion.  Thanks, Britannia!

It really does come down to this simple precept:  Is there still such a thing as "We The People...", or only when our Oligarchs say it is?  The implications for other parts of the world (even in the EU or the USSA) are profound:  They are either joyful or scary - depending on how it might affect your "deal" with TPTB and your own lifestyle.

Change is the only constant in the Universe. -Kirk out.

Mon, 05/12/2014 - 16:00 | 4752026 Herd Redirectio...
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R.E: The British, and 'lines in the sand' for borders.   Its no accident. see Africa, Colonial India.  Divide and conquer.  Find an area with a dominant ethnic group.  Combine with area with different dominant ethnic group.  Label the resulting recipe for civil war 'independent nation'.  Step back and watch the fireworks.

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