Russia Retaliates: Blocks GPS, Bans US Use Of Its Rocket Engines

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Just as Russia had promised, sanctions were not effective and so they went straight to targeted bans. On the heels of The Pentagon admitting that they had "no solution" to replacing Russian rocket engines in the launch systems for US military satellites (as we have covered extensively), Deputy Prime Minister Dmitry Rogozin this morning announced:

  • *ROGOZIN: RUSSIA TO HALT U.S. GPS BASES IN RUSSIA ON JUNE 1:IFX
  • *RUSSIAN BAN ON ROCKET USE FOR US MILITARY SATELLITE LAUNCHES: IFX

He further added that Russia will not extend its partnership in the International Space Station beyond 2020 (which suggests Russia does not expect a quick resolution to the current tensions).

 

As RT reports,

Moscow is banning Washington from using Russian-made rocket engines, which the US has used to deliver its military satellites into orbit, said Russia’s Deputy PM, Dmitry Rogozin, who is in charge of space and defense industries.

 

According to Rogozin, Russia is also halting the operation of all American GPS stations on its territory from June 1.

 

Russia currently hosts 11 ground-based GPS stations, the Deputy PM said.

 

The move comes after the US refused to place a signal correction station for Russia’s own space-based satellite navigation system, GLONASS, on American territory, he explained.

This is a major problem for the US military because (as Bloomberg reports),    

 
 

The Pentagon has no “great solution” to reduce its dependence on a Russian-made engine that powers the rocket used to launch U.S. military satellites, the Defense Department’s top weapons buyer said.

 

“We don’t have a great solution,” Frank Kendall, the undersecretary of defense for acquisition, said yesterday after testifying before a Senate committee. “We haven’t made any decisions yet.”

 

Defense Secretary Chuck Hagel ordered the Air Force to review its reliance on the rocket engine after tensions over Russia’s takeover of Ukraine’s Crimea region prompted questions from lawmakers about that long-time supply connection.

 

United Launch Alliance LLC, a partnership of Lockheed Martin Corp. and Boeing Co., uses the Russian-made RD-180 engine on Atlas V rockets.

 

As Putin warned - apparently correctly...

 
 

“The US is certainly one of the world’s leaders. At some point it seemed that it was the only leader and a uni-polar system was in place. Today it appears that is not the case. Everything in the world is interdependent and once you try to punish someone, in the end you will cut off your nose to spite your face,” he said.

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Tue, 05/13/2014 - 10:15 | 4754537 intric8
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You see cool hand vlads style? He doesnt overreact and strike right back. He gives thoughtful contemplation to what he considers a fair reprisal for each unfair sanction levied against his people. This was coming, and rightfully so. Slowkrieg to victory.

Tue, 05/13/2014 - 10:19 | 4754546 Stackers
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Thats going to be a problem for the ISS since the Russian rockets doing all the people moving back and forth these days

Tue, 05/13/2014 - 10:19 | 4754556 Titus
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How much will this impact US military strategy and implementation?

Tue, 05/13/2014 - 10:26 | 4754603 Pladizow
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what about Russia's friend China controlling 95% of rare earth metals?

Tue, 05/13/2014 - 10:32 | 4754632 Latina Lover
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????? ?? ???!

(fuck you USA!)

Tue, 05/13/2014 - 10:38 | 4754661 fonestar
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Russia already has a more accurate GPS system.  Another great example of how the world no longer relies on America for technology and innovation.

Tue, 05/13/2014 - 10:50 | 4754736 gmrpeabody
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Our administration rocks...., USA USA USA

<sarc>.... for those who don't recognize it when they see it.

Tue, 05/13/2014 - 11:26 | 4754953 redpill
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Good, we should be using 100% American-made SpaceX rockets anyway instead of 30 year old Soviet technology.

 

By "no good solution" he means no solution that continues to benefit the existing military industrial complex.  Lockheed/Boeing have been gouging US taxpayers for decades with their overpriced candles.  Time to do things the right way!

Tue, 05/13/2014 - 11:34 | 4755047 SafelyGraze
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mister putine has now ad-blocked the russian-bride images and links that used to appear on the sides of my zh page

that is that kind of retributionalities that is totally unfair

hugs,
mister bidenson 

Tue, 05/13/2014 - 11:56 | 4755169 Spitzer
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SpaceX is to rockets what Telsa is to cars. Mostly, a fucking joke.

Tue, 05/13/2014 - 12:20 | 4755282 gmrpeabody
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Some of the biggest technologies and great ideas started in a garage, Mr. Bigshot.

Tue, 05/13/2014 - 12:52 | 4755421 redpill
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How exactly are they a joke?  They've been resupplying the ISS at a fraction of the cost as we would have had to pay United Launch Alliance or the Russians.

As for Tesla, go drive one and then we'll talk.

Tue, 05/13/2014 - 15:57 | 4756170 Seeing Red
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The car reviewers who've said the Tesla is the best car of ANY type they've ever driven CLEARLY don't know what they're talking about.

Ok, ok, I admit it -- I think Mr Musk is an OK guy.  So sue me.

Tue, 05/13/2014 - 10:53 | 4754752 Oh regional Indian
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Cue SpaceX and the musky genius.

The set-up is so complex at one level, but if you slow your mind down enouogh, the patterns start to emerge.

Wow, that is a quite a key. These are long term planners.

Slow the thinking to their time-scales....

Hmmmmm......

Tue, 05/13/2014 - 11:13 | 4754892 DeadFred
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Orbital Sciences has launch systems available if you want an investment in the MIC plus ABM systems as a plus. Their rockets only tend to blow up when launching satellites designed to monitor the effects of global warming. 0 for 2 on those though.

Tue, 05/13/2014 - 14:26 | 4755821 ZerOhead
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+1000 Sharp eye...

I'm going to buy some ODS (Orbit Default Swaps) on the next global warming satellite launch.

Tue, 05/13/2014 - 11:45 | 4755116 Urban Roman
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Imagine, if you will...

a military planner with the attention span of a fruitfly.

Tue, 05/13/2014 - 13:00 | 4755447 Nigh Eve
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George W. Bush

Tue, 05/13/2014 - 12:23 | 4755296 JuliaS
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I hear if you puncture a Model S at just the right angle, it'll launch straight into orbit.

Tue, 05/13/2014 - 14:00 | 4755727 redpill
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The car, or the stock price?

Tue, 05/13/2014 - 10:40 | 4754670 Vampyroteuthis ...
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This is just a warm up to all of the foreign made items the US consumes. Think what will happen when China finally implodes with the sheeples burning the factories to the ground. No more icrap for the hipsters.

Ohh, what is poor Muskie going to do. No Russian engines for his overpriced fireworks.

Tue, 05/13/2014 - 11:10 | 4754876 Leopold B. Scotch
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There will always be a government program to solve that.  Hipster like push progressivism because it's solution oriented.  Nevermind its crap success rate.

Tue, 05/13/2014 - 10:32 | 4754634 Hexagon
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How about using European rockets Ariane? You know, those rockets made by your allies, the europeans...

Tue, 05/13/2014 - 10:42 | 4754683 Manipulism
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Europeans are not allies, they(their politician actors) are slaves.

Tue, 05/13/2014 - 10:46 | 4754712 rucunus
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more like puppets (hurts even more than slavery)

Tue, 05/13/2014 - 14:03 | 4755737 smoothie
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Don't piss us off! We designed the propulsion for your f35's

Tue, 05/13/2014 - 10:32 | 4754638 espirit
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Remind me again what game the US is playing, tic-tac-toe or checkers?

Tue, 05/13/2014 - 10:58 | 4754792 thecoloredsky
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connect 4, and they keep getting blocked

Tue, 05/13/2014 - 11:02 | 4754826 Volkodav
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dodge ball

Tue, 05/13/2014 - 11:24 | 4754973 Atlas Crapped
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Chicken

Tue, 05/13/2014 - 12:29 | 4755324 Sokhmate
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CalvinBall

Tue, 05/13/2014 - 11:48 | 4755126 Urban Roman
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Tiddlywinks.

Tue, 05/13/2014 - 10:37 | 4754657 Winston of Oceania
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"China controlling 95% of rare earth metals"

China is a producer of rare earths not a controller. Japan has already taken up production as the US once did. It is a filthy dirty and UGLY business but also one that can be done ANYWHERE if you can stomech the production process. This will be a good thing for PRIVATE US space companies so long as it is not spoon fed to an olgarchy who will only produce cost overruns and excuses.

Tue, 05/13/2014 - 11:34 | 4755044 InflammatoryResponse
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 Actually we have a fairly substantial amount of those rare earths here in the US.  Look up MolyCorp.

 

the problem is that waste produced from mining those "metals" are not pleasant so they are expensive to deal with here in the US.

 

 

in china, not so much.

 

 

we could also recycle the batteries hard drives etc.  

I've kept all of mine :)

 

Tue, 05/13/2014 - 11:39 | 4755077 NotApplicable
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You think those private companies aren't well within the grasp of the oligarchy?

Given the fact that the Fed is the "Fountain of Free Capital," how could it be anything but?

With a magic, near infinite checkbook, what cannot be undermined by this force?

Tue, 05/13/2014 - 14:30 | 4755842 Winston of Oceania
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Me for one, I have gone Gault.

Tue, 05/13/2014 - 10:26 | 4754605 JoeSexPack
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Russkies cut Northern Supply Route to Af/Pak & US is back to trucks over the Khyber Pass.

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NATO_logistics_in_the_Afghan_War#Northern_...

 

Very easily stopped in past.

 

Good night, Saigon?

Tue, 05/13/2014 - 10:40 | 4754667 stewie
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I will show my ignorance of the subject here, but it's not like the US doesn't know how to build a rocket engine?!  What's the problem here?

Tue, 05/13/2014 - 10:44 | 4754691 Manipulism
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The germans are all dead.

Americans can do shit(obviously).

Tue, 05/13/2014 - 10:57 | 4754781 duo
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Don't need them.  Just dust off the plans for the Saturn V engines.  LOX and kerosine was and still is the most cost effective way to get something large into orbit.  Of course, the drawings are on paper and were probably shreddded by some intern from the Obama admin.

Tue, 05/13/2014 - 11:09 | 4754870 Headbanger
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Yeah but it's the tooling and metals and manufacturing know how we have lost.

And wasn't the last US lead smelter shut down recently? So we can't even make car batteries anymore.

WTF!?

Tue, 05/13/2014 - 11:24 | 4754972 Husk-Erzulie
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It's a cute idea but those engines are like 3-4 iterations behind current tech.  They are madly inefficient... no power to weight ratio.  Plus, like Bamger said, we don't have the shops or the guys; Saturn development was based on the post WW industrial base which no longer exists.

Tue, 05/13/2014 - 13:13 | 4755508 Anusocracy
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Meanwhile, the US is busy copying 40 year old Soviet technology in order to catch up.

Tue, 05/13/2014 - 15:34 | 4756096 espirit
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Everyday the US sells off the machinery as scrap that made it No.1 in global innovation.  What did we get back?

China Trinkets.

The American Indian must be laughing his ass off in the great beyond. 

Tue, 05/13/2014 - 13:36 | 4755610 CH1
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we don't have the shops or the guys

Nah... lots of people - like me - know how to set up shops in a hurry.

Problem #1: Fedguv only hires cronies.

Problem #2: Guys like me don't want to work for a Fascist State.

Tue, 05/13/2014 - 11:23 | 4754967 crazzziecanuck
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NASA put the Saturn V plans on magnetic tape in the early 1980s.

The tapes deteriorated, and as someone already pointed out, the Nazis that put the USA on the moon have long since died.

Just another example of how economic incentives ultimatley destroy a society.

Tue, 05/13/2014 - 11:43 | 4755109 NotApplicable
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Debasement of a currency and economic incentives are two wholly different things. Especially when the so-called incentives are political in nature, funded by OPM (which is really other people's DEBT).

Once people accept a borrower/consumer of last resort, economic incentives are no longer a coherent market function.

Tue, 05/13/2014 - 12:02 | 4755202 Herd Redirectio...
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Operation Paperclip, Werner von Braun.  After WWII, the US and Soviets grabbed as many Nazi scientists as they could find and... Gave them new identities and a new life.  Problem being, even the war criminals among them got away scot-free.  Then again, so did the war FINANCIERS.

Tue, 05/13/2014 - 13:17 | 4755493 The_Dude
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But we now have millions of H1-Bs here instead of Germans so of course we can just design new ones.....think of the overwhelming brainpower.....haven't you seen the advanced technologies streaming out of those countries where all of these guys came from.. (I even hear India plans a major initiative to invent indoor plumbing soon)....No wonder Fuckerberg needs .....MOAR!

Tue, 05/13/2014 - 11:42 | 4755094 Tall Tom
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The F-5 Main Engine of the Saturn V was inefficient. NASA was developing the J2X variant (of the former J2 Second Stage Engines and the Third Stage Engine of the Saturn V) in order to increase efficiency. (Of course the Second Stage and Third Stage of the Saturn V were LOH and LOX powered.) But the Obama Administration terminated Project Constellation and to the best of my knowledge that either slowed or stopped the development of the J2X.

 

By the way the Kerosene-LOX Engines were scrapped because of inefficiency back in the 1970s. That is why the Spae Shuttle Main Engine was developed...EFFICIENCY.

 

But with the loss of the Atlas V we have only the Delta that can be relied upon for Medium Lift Capabilities. The USA has no operational Heavy Lift Vehicles nor can we produce them in a short time period.

 

Conversely the Russians do. They launch entire segments of the ISS as the payload of their reliable Proton Rockets.

 

Obama is a myopic idiot and his Sciene and Technology Advisors need to be fired.

 

The Falcon 9 (Spaxe X) only provides medium lift capabilities.

 

That hurts our Defensive stance and capabilities.

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