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White House On Biden's Son Joining Ukraine Gas Giant - No Ethical Issues Here
Yesterday we were the first to report that none other than Vice President Joe Biden's son was joining the board of Ukraine's largest gas producer. It appears to have signaled peak crony capitalist as the new went viral with almost complete disdain. There was one defender though... as The Washington Examiner reports, The White House brushed off questions about any ethical issues as Jay Carney snapped "Hunter Biden and other members of the Biden family are obviously private citizens, and where they work does not reflect an endorsement by the administration or by the vice-president or president."
As The Washington Examiner reports,
Asked about the hiring by a reporter Tuesday, presidential spokesperson Jay Carney referred questions about it to the vice president's office and noted that it did not indicate that Obama was involved or approved of it.
“Hunter Biden and other members of the family are obviously private citizens and where they work is not an endorsement by the president or vice president,” he said.
Kendra Barkoff, a spokeswoman for the vice president, did not respond to questions about whether Hunter Biden discussed the job with his father or sought his approval before accepting it.
Instead, she echoed Carney's earlier statement and referred questions to Hunter Biden's New York law office.
“Hunter Biden is a private citizen and a lawyer," she said. "The vice president does not endorse any particular company and has no involvement with this company. For any additional questions, I refer you to Hunter’s office."
Furthermore, State Department spokesperson Jen Psaki also responded bluntly to the questions, saying only that Hunter Biden is a private citizen... and when pressed on the fact that Russian and Ukrainian oligarchs - who have been sanctioned and vilified by the US and Europe - were also private citizens she dismissed any concerns...
Forward to around 2:35 to see Psaki squirm...
In other words.. nothing to see here move along and go about your business, people of America...
Perhaps Curtis Ellis, executive director at American Jobs Alliance, summed it up best...
...it is a typical Washington politics to exploit a foreign crisis for personal gain.
“The US … are trying to portray in the most altruistic and platonic fashion possible. However, it is very difficult to disentangle business interests from national interests,” he said.
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Fascism
Yes, full frontal fascism/cronyism/nepotism and still no one rolls the guillotines.
The fucking sheep will get what they deserve.
Fine by me, but then again I do like lamb...
Of course there's no ethical issues here. Because they say so, and that's good enough. Move on.
what, the white house in all its wisdom never heard of the 'smell test'? big fail.
What do you call the merger of State and Corporation? Is Fascism too strong a word? Perhaps the Americans can have Websters edited.
The Empire... where CIA front-men are "private citizens" and true private citizens are terrorists.
chelsea clinton just married putin.
... she is a private citizen.
No....she's not. She was bred and groomed to carry on the Dynasty.
"chelsea clinton just married putin." I didn't know they were related. I thought only inbreeding was allowed.
Fascism: The union of state and corporate interests. Of course the white house cannot tell the difference.....
Please pardon my ignorance, as I live on the other side of the world and have little knowledge of the intricacies of US nobility but:
1. Is he really Joe's son or is he just a CIA agent who claims to be Joe's son?
2. Can he speak Ukrainian? Or Russian?
3. Has he ever been to Ukraine?
4. Does he know anything about gas? That doesn't involve beans?
5. Does he live in Ukraine? Is he planning on living in Ukraine? Or is he going to commute every day in his own Jumbo Jet? Or will he live elsewhere, US for example, and just make the occasional phone call to the office now and then?
6. Does he own a shotgun?
7. Is he planning on striking out on his own some day, you know, just to see if he can do it, or is he happy just to take over the reins on the family business, or has he already struck out on his own before and is now returning to the family business?
Sorry for so many questions, but I really don't know.
Thanks.
Only question you need to know:
How hard did he suck the skin off his father's dick for this job?
you have to remember these people like having a hand jammed up their ass like a puppet.
That's what happens when your dad is an adulterist and your mother is a lesbian.
Is it surprising to anyone that the WH sees nothing wrong with this?
Maybe they ARE telling the truth, a truth that offers insight into their warped reality.
I for one welcome when all these despots are hung up by their entrails.
pods
"Democracy is the political theory that the common people know what they want, and deserve to get it, good and hard." -HL Mencken
Just a shout out to Matthew Lee again.
He's the same AP reporter that addressed Snowden, US terror, hypocrisy, press freedom, and just about any other clip you seen Jen Psaki squirming on.
This guy has fucking balls.
Everyone is a private citizen, but some citizens are more private than others (c).
Those more private are to be referred to as privateers authorized by the government by a letter of marque to attack foreign interests abroad.
Basically... Daddy's connections got him a modern day letter of marque as a CIA front-man to "help manage" (but really loot) a foreign land. Fairly standard MO for The Empire.
We wish him a safe journey.
Don't worry. As long as he packs a shotgun, he'll be fine.
Other than being the VicePresident's son how else is he qualified?
Obama:" My administration will be the most transparent, open, etc"..blah blah blah...blah blah! http://www.whitehouse.gov/the_press_office/TransparencyandOpenGovernment
And if you fuck with us, the IRS will audit you and anyone involved with you.
I'm sure he also excels at kissing ass and lying.
It's not anyone's problem now except the Ukrainian oil company's, nepotism and cronyism never works out functionally.
However, imagine being him. Your old man's hand jammed up your ass like a puppet which is run by committee. Every option and move scrutinized like a hawk, any idea or opinion quickly dismissed as 'that's nice, now do that'. Sounds like a wonderful life of being a trained and tamed family pet, also a good recipe for a midlife crisis.
Unless he figures his shit out and says 'fuck it' of course.
Perhaps he's hoping to one day be promoted from puppet to puppeteer?
...But on the other hand, freedom of the daily human struggle and worry of having gainful employment, NO student loan dept, and that fast track to youngest managing partner in, well, ANY firm that hires him.
In fact the only thing he needs to worry about is somehow not to embarrasing his old man, which in itself is nearly impossible.
It could be worse, Remeber "Billy beer"? If the Bush bro's could assend to lofty political careers on their own merit so can Hunter...
Nepotism does not automatically lead to failure.
If you use your family connections to get a job, and you are not a total sociopath, you will work as hard as everyone else so you don't make your father or uncle or aunt look bad.
Now, I think this case is WAY DIFFERENT. I'm not even sure where to even begin because it fills me with such rage.
Puts a quite different spin on Biden's last trip to Kiev. Doing his kid's job interview, maybe?
Jesse Jackson Jr. would strongly agree...
Huntder Biden is NO Jesse Jackson Jr...
http://dilbert.com/strips/comic/1990-02-15/
And, more to the point:
http://dilbert.com/strips/comic/1990-02-16/
RE: outamyeffinway
Any regulation must instead target what we have called ‘quid pro quo’ corruption or its appearance. That Latin phrase captures the notion of a direct exchange of an official act for money - John Roberts, Chief Justice United States Supreme Court
If it's not illegal it's not unethical :-) Just like when that judge let the Dupont heir convicted child rapist not serve any time. If he had REALLY broken the law I'm sure they would have held him accountable...
That pc. of shit
If he had a nickle-bag of weed on him he would have likely served his sentance
How about a condemnation if not an endorsement?
The joke is still on us folks, they are laughing all the way to their bunkers...
With the media in your back pocket and you fear no crtitism the field is wide open to do whatever you want. This will not stop, in fact, only get worse till we have a revolution and the average people start shooting these immoral bastards. I suspect we have many years to go.
The thing is, both ordinary citizens and the "rulers" think it (revolution) can't happen here. But it can, and it eventually will if things don't radically change. History has demonstrated how and why revolutions occur time and again.
But if there's one thing we've learned from history, it's that we don't learn from history.
I'm not so sure the elites think revolution can't happen here. Else why the urgency to secure bilions of rounds of hollow point?
The NDAA is a direct answer to the question of revolution.
Nothing will move as long as most of the population is fat.
Fear the day when hunger becomes the greatest aphrodisiac the world has ever known.
"Nothing will move as long as most of the population is fat."
Yeah, I guess physics won't allow it.
The government proves itself more illegitimate by the day. The founders of this country went to war with the King of England for far less than we endure.
Necks need to stretch, heads need to roll, bullets need to enter brains. We're long overdue.
"Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable."
Look up Pavlo Lazarenko. The guy stole hundreds of millions from Ukraine and wants residency in the US. Might have been involved in murder in cahoots with Yulia Tymoshenko (perspective presidnetial candidate in Ukraine). Yep He will fit in just perfectly.
Put down the fucking cellphones and wake up sheeple.
If I see one more person totally self absorbed talking on a cellphone, ignoring a customer service rep and acting as if no one else is in the store I am going to seize that phone and break that fucker.
Rant over. America is a nation lulled to complacency by the television, the computer game and the cellphone. It's over.
Our electronic distractions serve a useful (for our masters) purpose.....they are one self-selected flavor of "soma" (read 'Brave New World').
The sheep aren't "out there" somewhere. WE are the sheep. And we (and you) are getting what we deserve. Unless bleating on ZH somehow sets you apart with some kind of honorary predator status.
Making money has nothing to do with ethics.
/s
https://friendsofsyria.files.wordpress.com/2014/05/130514-hunter-biden-m...
Here Joke Biden, his demon spawn and senile john "walnuts" McCain accept an award for "biggest craven asshole" 2013.
Ww, that photo is awesome. You can see the smirk on the Veep's face actually mirrored in the face of his son. Joe's grin smirks up on the right, while the spawn displays his smirk on the right.
That pile of fascism in the middle? Like my mom always said, "If you can't say something nice, don't say anything at all."
When you have NO ETHICS....then of course there are no issues to be found concerning ethics.
Fascist circle jerk.
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Obama's owned by the banks
does not reflect an endorsement by the administration or by the vice-president or president."
BULLSHIT.......
Scream it to the heavens!! BULLSHIT!!!
I'm MAD AS HELL and I'M NOT GOING TO TAKE IT ANYMORE !!!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WGiX5tbLKiY
Won't matter....but it does feel good for the moment. Why not? A little scream therapy is good for the soul every now and again.
Stop being so negative...
Sarc off.
Just being a good sheep and bleeting out whatever I hear from my masters.
Bahahahahhhhh
Whatever that means. This is a payoff pure and simple. It is a fascist coup government paying off the well connected string pullers. Without Biden's position and US money, Hunter would not be on that board. It equates to theft and robbery.
Reminds me for some reason of
'No Chance of that'
-Timothy Geethner
Carney: "No ethics here... I mean no ethical issues here."
Beat me to it.
Carney needs a beating. Preferably in front of a webcam for all to see.
Way too subtle a lesson there...
Title was a little off. More like, "No Ethics Here."
I'm sure all of Zero's supporters see no problem with this, but had this been the other side there would be hell to pay.... and vice versa. The proles and their stupidity with the constant support of "their guy" makes me sick. WTF does it take for those who pay even a modicum of attention to wake up to the fact they are being played?
The red team/blue team people are basically religious cultists with all the superstitious delusions that entails. They're programmed to never wake up and the majority would immediately join a new cult, the other team or a fake third party, if they ever abandon their faith.
When you recieve direct transfer payments from .gov and are dependent upon it for your very life, its not very polite to bite the hand that literally feeds you.
Govt dependancy, Its not a problem, its the intended result.
Every time I see Carney, I envision a steaming pile of shit wearing a blond wig.
Every time I see Carney I have to double take. At first glance, he appears to be a 16 year old boy lying his way through a book report. On second glace, he appears as a 40-something year old man, lying his way through a press conference.
I still have to laugh at the audacity of having a Carney as the WH Spokesman.
I have the same thought when I see Yellen... hmmm....
He looks like Tony Robbins in that pic.
The power of positive thinking. "I positively think my dad can get me a job by taking over a country."
If only I had a dad like that, riggghhhttt.
Picture leaning to the side to puke.
I thought the same damn thing..."he looks good" that's about it.
Strangely quiet on the war mongering front since the weekend vote. There was an assissination attempt and that failed ... so far. These Obumer backers are plotting. I am looking for a new front to be opened, Syria - checked, Ukraine - checked, Iran - checked, maybe something crazy like trying to kill Putin will be tried? who knows with these crazy false flag crony Kapitalists?
One day soon Hunter, will be the Hunted.
Does this mean that we no longer have to hear about Bo Biden's "brave" service in Iraq? Thank goodness. . .
Smile for the Spetznaz when they find you, you rat motherfucker. ;)
I'm sure he is the best and most qualified person for the job in the whole wide world. It's just a coincidence that he happens to be the son of VP Biden, who just happened to visit the Ukraine just a few short weeks ago. Nothing to see here, move along.
From droning wedding parties and American citizens to nearly starting a major war in Syria based on lies about sarin, to sending 400 mercenaries to Ukraine, the Nobel Prize Winner is as divorced from ethics as anyone in this world.
Forward.
How can we return to absolute monarchies unless we can first embrace, or at least brush aside, naked nepotism?
I find this kind of honesty refreshing. How can the people delude themselves with such blatant corporate reconstruction of a foreign nation? I'm sure they will find a way. The zionists are just laughing their heads off now. They can seize any asset in the world and the people just go along. They can even make it seem like a "confrontation" to create a little more debt spending.
Cue the Putin's our savior trolls and it will be complete!
Love those Psaki Bombs...
is that like when Obanga got Moochelle a no show do nothing $330,000/yr. job as head of community outreach at the University of Chitcongo Hospitals at a time when they were turning away indigent patients for medical care due to a lack of funds and also at a time when the interior of the hospital was in such disrepair that the employees were afraid for the saftey of patients?
And why wouldn't this be legitimate. After all Obama just won the Ambassador of Humanity award...
They don't give awards like that to just anybody! Just remember also President Remus is also a Nobel Peace Prize recipient just like Henry Kissinger!!!
Nothing to see here now. Move along!
Unfuckingreal, UNFUCKINGREAL!
This smarmy greasy monkey should hook up with Harry Reid's kid.
Then they get into some real daddy's boy shenanigans.
Joe "plugs" Biden's son looks like a real smug douchebag which shows that the nematode doesn't fall far from the parasite.
EDITED: I was getting my parasites confused.
FUCK YOU, Carney!
Yes Jay, we believe you, THE PRESIDENT knew nothing about it and when he found out, he sent a congratulatory text and a selfie to little Hunter.
Hunter Biden and other members of the family are obviously private citizens...
That's kind of the point Jay because Hunter Biden's CV is obviously loaded with examples of his leveraging his extensive public service connections and influence for personal gain.
This particular episode, although perhaps not the worst, happens to have a higher profile because he's actively enriching himself in broad daylight and in the context of a geopolitical crisis which the United States has involved itself in to a significant extent.
Once again, H. Biden's main gig at Rosemont Seneca Partners is one of those D.C. Crony Jr. "investment advisory" outfits, similar to Ted Kennedy Jr.'s Marwood Group where politicians/bureaucrats legally sell info about who's getting what contract/pork/regulatory blessing, then the advisory firm turns around and sells that “research” to hedge funds, Steve Cohen etc.
Devon Archer joined the Burisma board in April.
Burisma's web site:
"Devon Archer is one of the most renowned experts in the investment filed in the United States. Over the last ten year he has been best known as a co-founder and a Managing Director of Rosemont Seneca Partners and Rosemont Capital, where he is responsible for developing investment strategies on managing private equity capital for investments in debt instruments with fixed income and real estate investments."
First read I thought it said pirate not private...whatever.
I am pretty sure these dumbass, no-tech generation, baby boomers, who cannot even figure out how to send an email, have no idea everyone knows what they are doing in real time on the internet these days. The shit the establishment has been pulling since Bush could only have been done by someone so GD ignorant they were raised on a hippy commune in a haze of pot smoke. Do they actually not know everyone can see what is going on?
I guess you never had to deal with a Commodore 64 or Wang processor or carry around a portable phone that made you look like a telephone repairman with a belt full of tools. Those kind of horrors can scar a person, for life. You think Carney was raised? On a hippie commune? or enjoys pot smoke? More likely he was hatched in a reptilian nursery, feeding on competing hatchlings and fed regular blood meals while sexually consuming young babies and children.
Hey, I can e-mail with the best of them, but you can shove that twitter, facebook, WOW mind consumption. Then pack the apps up there with them.
Dude I was raised using an acoustic coupler talking to a college mainframe. I played Hammarabi on printout paper.
Everyone? Yeah, riiiiiight.
The vast majority are too busy being issue specific "informed voters" to even care. Meanwhile, the remainder ignore it completely.
What's left? Just us remnant pieces.
http://archive.lewrockwell.com/orig3/nock3b.html
NA That is excellent commentary and a most excellent reference link to A. Nock.
You are forgetting something.
They don't care.
The worst part is you just know there are Obama supporters frothing at the mouth defending this bullshit on news blogs and on TV. They'll just repeat White House talking points verbatim.
"He's a private citizen. He's a private citizen. He's a private citizen..."
All interconnected based on pre-known events.
Cramer: Big theme presents major opportunity
Cramer has always had more gas than he knew what to do with. It, literally, gushes from every orifice.
...and increasingly, that gas is coming from fracking (Battlestar Galactica slang for f**king, incidentally) all the groundwater in N. America. BP's PR budget to make "feel good" propaganda commercials for how great it is for you, your family, and your community must be greater than some third world nation's GDP, because they are all over the boobtube of late.
Fracking is the functional equivalent of scraping the hash pipe for a couple more hits.
im sure hunter is a gas expert
hot or natural
It was BAD when Yanukovich's son was involved because that is corrupt, but it is GOOD when Biden's son is involved because it is not a conflict of interest, it is only Prima Nocta.
Who can blame old Joe? He just wants to pad the family's bank account and get the boy laid by some Ukrainian hotties.
We would all be floored if we knew how much he is getting paid for his job....its probably millions...
And the media will dutifully ingore the whole sordid affair. Obama knows he can get away with just about anything because the media has his back. And the low-information voters remain blissfully clueless.
And the media will dutifully ingore the whole sordid affair. Obama knows he can get away with just about anything because the media has his back. And the low-information voters remain blissfully clueless.
So the US spends $5 Billion funding a coup to give it control of the Ukraine then Bidens son suddenly gets the top job at the Ukraine gas company and the white house claims there are no ethical issues....Just when you think the evil criminal in the white house can sink no lower, he proves that he can.
Sadly, there's no such thing as Peak Evil. Just like love, it is infinite.
When Bush was saying that [insert flavor of the month] people hated US for "your way of life", I think he might have been onto something there...
And your freedoms, of course ;)
I hate Psaki. That fake smile acerbic bitch makes me sick with her compulsive lying. She's actually a more seasoned pro than Nuland when it comes to bullshit artistry.
The guy who can take those two bitchez apart is ap reporter mathew lee. Youtube it.
Psaki Shit!
dumb question though, if Ukraine gets its gas from Russia, what exactly does Ukraine's 'gas giant' do? just re-distribute said gas?
ding, ding, ding.
Lurch!
Was Hunter wearing a blue dress the last time he blew some Russian and Ukrainian oligarchs?
As a servant of Jesuits, dresses are a no go. I expect nothing more from him than a ball gag and a whimper...
Joe, Hunter has no business even being remotely associated with anything like this. Make sure it doesn't happen. - The way a President with integrity, and one who cares about doing the right things, would approach this.
Son, out of respect for the country and my position as Vice President, and because the president and I have a very important duty that wil be impacted if you take this position. I ask you not to even remotely associate yourself with anything like this. - The way a VP and father with integrity, and one who wants to teach his son how do do the right thing, would approach this.
“Hunter Biden and other members of the family are obviously private citizens and where they work is not an endorsement by the president or vice president,”. - The way opportunistic, self serving leaders of poor integrity did handle this.
FREE HUNTER BIDEN
Shit will NOT change until 10 million plus march on the decrepit den of inequity known in polite circles as - DC.
Pitchforks, torches and guillotines. No violence, just the threat that we're pissed and the party is over.
Until then, nothing will change.
I wish I had the means and wherewithall to start it but some TeeVee clown could get this thing rolling, Glen Beck, Alex Jones? Anyone? How'd they get 1 million there for the Tea Party? It has to be done.
What I think would be great is if thousands showed up and just stood there. No chanting, no violence. Just stand there and stare towards the Capitol, the White House.
A huge, silent crowd. It would be the creepiest thing I could imagine...and it would freak the fuck out of TPTB.
What could the police do? If no one was doing anything, all they could do would be to watch...ask some folks, "What are you guys DOING?"...
And have the crowd simply ignore them, and keep staring...as the crowd gets bigger and bigger...
Except VP Biden took my taxpayer dollars to Ukraine's Govt and its gas industry. His son should be replaced with a representative of the taxpayers and all renumeration given to the US Treasury.
r hunter biden is gorg us
he a dream boat innit
he specilist in gas
you scums whats your beefs
e like gorge cloney or mat demon gorge us
he hunter makes loves likes a cyborg.
cut the hate scum
he hunter nevars rapes anyones
nor slit anyones throats
he nevars been to ans eye wide shuts party nevars touched killed childrens
he lovins der kinder
dontes mock der irish royalties he familiese likes gorge bush and bill cluntin ducks dysentry
cut der hates scum and bows down
now
bees happy in yours freedumbs
Tony,
The 'bots can now interpret and decode your pigeon english. Keyword searches are old hat now, so you might as well stop trying to effect your hit-count at the NSA. We, I mean, they have you and have interpreted every nuance. You are not under the radar, you are in its beam, like the rest of us.
With TBTF still in
place, it's rather iconic
having CNBC broadcast from
Vegas for a couple days.
Except, since those banks
gamble with their own products,
how is it they manage needing
getting bailed out with
$trillions?
And so then if a banker's
actually gambling next to
you at the Bellagio he should
be even MORE prone to losing,
and then he'd only have you
to whom to say give me your
money.
Ring, ring, ring..
Hello NSA..
Pull Hunter/Joe Biden phone records.
We'll do.
Click..
This is a SCREECH!
Anything goes when you're an insider.
Official statement from the White House:
Ya, but what about what Bush did?
I'm sure Hunter was selected because he is the best person for the job ... just like his retarded father was.
Carney seems to have a second job, besides official spokes liar - the national jest. No doubt he takes inspiration from Baghdad Bob.
R. Hunter Biden. Clean as a whistle when selling Nat Gas into Global market. Just look at his track record.
http://www.muckety.com/R-Hunter-Biden/26290.muckety
/LOL
I really liked the part of the article where it says "Jay Carney snapped".
Not surprised - not at all.
Absolute horse shit 'private citizen'. Harry Reid's son and his solar interests. Sen Angus King and his son's wind interests. I can go on and on and will compile a full list later.
You have to admit, dude has a sort of convincing résumé and a great "hey, we're totally not fucking your entire shit up when you're not looking" smile on vim. But nobody considered just how incredibly bad this looks? There was really no other oil company that would hire him? Ukroil (or whatever) isn't exactly top tier.
Personally I think its the rough but simultaneously well groomed stubble that sealed the deal, not the family connection. How much money did papa Joe bring in again? Can't remember cause it was friggin peanuts to a country where everybody is a billionaire.
Double, sorry...
Almost makes me wistful for the days of Hillary scamming the odd $100k off phoney Cattle Futures contracts...
Or skimming travel expenses.
In a way this follows very clearly the "neocon official policy", little summary table from page 2 of "Rebuilding America's Defenses: Strategies, Forces, and Resources For a New Century" :
http://iiscn.files.wordpress.com/2014/04/pnac.jpg
21st century main military missions :
"Secure and
expand zones
of democratic
peace; deter
rise of new
great-power
competitor;
defend key
regions;
exploit
transformation
of war"
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/pdf/RebuildingAmericasDefenses....
Lamb brought to the slaughter. What more disastrous event than he visit Ukraine and something 'happen'. Would give the US carte Blanche to intervene directly.
Hussein Obimbo knew nothing.
I would be very surprised, if he could analyse such information and deal with such information.
Nudelman Pyat and MacCain did for him in advance.
what do you expect from the criminals at be. Ask Hitler whether stealing gold from invaded countries is unethical and he will tell you "NO".
These are criminals/fascist/nazi's. They have no ethics.
If we assume this is Game of Thrones, I wonder if Hunter had to marry a dwarf??
Jen Psaki is having an interesting career. I bet she could sell AIDS syringes to 5 year olds and still keep that smirk smile.
Personally I think she needs to be cock slapped across that face until that smirk goes away. Just my personal opinion as private citizen. A man is entitled to his opinion.