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Why Are Ukraine Troops Using UN Helicopters, Russia Foreign Minister Asks

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A clearly irritated Sergei Lavrov - Russia's Minister of Foreign Affairs - appeared on Bloomberg TV this morning and warned that "Ukraine is as close to civil war as you can get." The minister further exclaimed that Russia "would like to understand how helicopters with a UN logo were used against protesters in the south-east," adding that "Russia has serious suspicions that mercenaries from the USA are acting in Ukraine’s south-east." Furthermore, Lavrov warned that "attempts to force Ukraine into NATO may have a strong negative impact on the whole system of European security." But apart from that... BTFWWIII

 

A UN-marked Helicopter being used by Ukraine forces against Donetsk regional militia

 

And the raw feed via LiveLeak:

 

Ironically - the UN also wants to know why...

The UN has voiced concerns over the apparent use of UN-marked helicopters by Kiev troops in their military operation against Donetsk regional militia. A video of a white-painted Mil Mi-24 strike helicopter with UN logo has emerged.

 

When inquired about the United Nations’ stance on the use of peacekeeper-marked military hardware in non-peacekeeper operations, the office for UN Secretary-General Ban Ki-moon’s spokesperson said such use would violate UN rules.

 

It is the responsibility of Troop Contributing Countries (TCCs) that provide Contingent Owned Equipment to peacekeeping missions to remove all logos and signage bearing the UN's name once such equipment has been repatriated to the home country or is no longer being used for official UN purposes,” the office told RT.

 

It added that UN-marked aircraft can be used for missions tasked by the UN and that UN’s Departments of Peacekeeping Operations and Field Support is in contact with the Ukrainian authorities to clarify the issue.

And - as Lavrov explains in the clip below - Russia seriously wants to know why...

 

As ITAR-TASS reports,

Russia strongly opposes attempts to force Ukraine into NATO, Russia’s Minister of Foreign Affairs Sergei Lavrov stated in an interview with Bloomberg Television.

 

Attempts to force Ukraine into NATO may have a strong negative impact on the whole system of European security, and we would be strongly opposing it,” he stressed. The minister added that this issue concerns not only Ukraine and NATO, but Russia as well.

 

According to Lavrov, Moscow urges to investigate the alleged Kiev’s using of helicopters with UN marks in the military operation in the country’s south-east. “Ukraine is as close to civil war as you can get,” the Russian minister emphasized. “We would like to understand how helicopters with UN logo were used against protesters in the south-east,” the minister said.

 

“Russia has serious suspicions that mercenaries from the USA are acting in Ukraine’s south-east,” Lavrov pointed out.

 

Commenting on the news about the start of the ‘round table’ on ways of settling the crisis in Kiev, the Russian minister noted that for the success of the national dialogue, Ukraine needs an equal participation of all the country’s regions in this process.

 

“I don’t know which the exact list of participants of the widely advertised ‘round table’ in Kiev is. We are convinced that for the success of the national dialogue, an equal participation of all Ukraine’s regions is needed, and not only of the south and east, but of the west as well,” Sergei Lavrov said.

 

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Wed, 05/14/2014 - 16:31 | 4760401 the not so migh...
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Nazies in the sky, in UN helicopters

Wed, 05/14/2014 - 16:37 | 4760429 JuliaS
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UN - Undercover Nazi's.

Wed, 05/14/2014 - 16:47 | 4760470 Arius
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until recently, I believed this guy, lavrov with Kerry held the keys to peace.  the geneva agreement was a great start and very promissing, but look at where he is fallen .... complaining like a baby for a UN helicopter...

it is hard but i got to admit, lavrov and kerry might not be able after all the bring peace.

Wed, 05/14/2014 - 16:55 | 4760510 Headbanger
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They're RENTALS!

What's the big deal!?

Wed, 05/14/2014 - 16:58 | 4760528 max2205
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Sure I'd like to know too......maybe CNN could tell us..LOL

Wed, 05/14/2014 - 17:04 | 4760553 john39
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at the conclusion of the party, all masks come off...

Wed, 05/14/2014 - 17:05 | 4760556 strannick
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Ukranian Nazi?

Wed, 05/14/2014 - 17:08 | 4760562 crazzziecanuck
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After watching the last couple months, is there any difference?  These words are all but synonyms now.

Wed, 05/14/2014 - 17:09 | 4760569 Hexagon
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Maybe that's because these helicopters were sent by the Ukrainian army to a UN mission somewhere else in the world? I hate the BS from the west, but I don't buy the one from Russia either...

Wed, 05/14/2014 - 17:15 | 4760586 666
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It's time to bomb the UN. Nobody would miss it, since it's a useless organization.

Wed, 05/14/2014 - 18:45 | 4760891 Bad Attitude
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Those helicopters are part of the United Nations Peace Force.

Wed, 05/14/2014 - 18:51 | 4760918 Ignatius
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I will never laugh at the 'Black Helicopter' crowd again, ever.

Wed, 05/14/2014 - 19:19 | 4761018 tmosley
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They asked for unmarked helicopters, and they got UN-marked helicopters.

Wed, 05/14/2014 - 19:08 | 4760983 markovchainey
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Off on a slight tangent:

I love how the language has degenerated so very much.  An attack helicopter, it sure looks like it has guns to me, is part of a "peace keeping" force.  I guess "peace keeping" means "populace suppression"?

I really need to go back to school.  My English skills apparently suck these days.

 

Wed, 05/14/2014 - 19:10 | 4760984 markovchainey
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Off on a slight tangent:

I love how the language has degenerated so very much.  An attack helicopter, it sure looks like it has guns to me, is part of a "peace keeping" force.  I guess "peace keeping" means "populace suppression"?

I really need to go back to school.  My English skills apparently suck these days.

(Crap!  I apologize for the duplicate post.)

Thu, 05/15/2014 - 03:13 | 4761755 RichardParker
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More like United Nations Peace FARCE!

Wed, 05/14/2014 - 17:23 | 4760619 socalbeach
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You're missing the point.  Ukraine is not supposed to use helicopters with UN markings for their own military missions.

Wed, 05/14/2014 - 17:35 | 4760667 Headbanger
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Really???

Duh... Glad you pointed that one out...

So WTF do you make of it??

Hmmmm... Could it be.....   OBAMA!!??

Isn't that special??

Thu, 05/15/2014 - 06:42 | 4761847 tonyw
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it shows the junta must be really desperate for working helicopters.

withdrawing those that were sent to africa for UN and not even repainting them.

they must be down to a handful of working ones

probably don't care they shouldn't be using with UN markings

just like it's illegal to burn people to death ...

Wed, 05/14/2014 - 17:44 | 4760686 McMolotov
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Yes, you'd think this would be obvious, but some assholes down-thread (rodonmeguro and b_thunder) seem to think this is no biggie.

However, it gives the Kiev junta a highly immoral advantage in that separatists are much less likely to fire on a helicopter emblazoned with the logo of a "neutral" organization. It's no different than using helicopters with a Red Cross logo painted on the side.

It also greatly increases the likelihood of actual UN helicopters being fired on in the future.

Wed, 05/14/2014 - 17:55 | 4760708 Headbanger
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Yeah, hope they opted for the rental insurance on those chappaaasss!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d2BZCW4SpHE

Wed, 05/14/2014 - 18:12 | 4760780 socalbeach
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The guys bashing Russia on these threads aren't very impressive.  Yesterday Sangell thought Russia-China trade was $8 billion. In his defense he wasn't sure, but how difficult is it to look up?.  Total trade turnover between the two is $88.8 billion.

Wed, 05/14/2014 - 18:12 | 4760781 The Blank Stare
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My guess is they were searching for those missing African girls and got the call for help so they said "well, we're already here...why not"

Wed, 05/14/2014 - 18:53 | 4760924 Headbanger
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Ya all  know what??   I want to see the Moosechelle pick up some  BMG 50 herself and get wicked down with her Secret Service posse looking for those girls and kick some evil ass!!

C'mon Mrs First Lady  Can you do it or just THINK it like some game to play?

Bet First Lady got lots more GONADS than that big ear douche sitting in the Office.

Do it. Last chance she's got to make some history for the first African American First Lady!

C'mon .. Tap Condi Rice and get 'er done!!

Wed, 05/14/2014 - 18:41 | 4760874 sushi
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There have also been reports of Junta troops being transported in trucks and ambulances painted with Red Cross markings. 

Next I suspect we will see images of Junta T-80 tanks labelled for the SPCA.

After all, if you are an illigitimate government engaged in the murder of your own citizens what's the bitch about a little paint?

 

Wed, 05/14/2014 - 18:53 | 4760925 Ignatius
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What do you expect these people to do?

This voting/democracy trend must be stopped!

Wed, 05/14/2014 - 22:34 | 4761468 omniversling
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Ranking LEO being 'welcomed' into an ambulance by what appears to be a right wing shooter. Policeman appears to have minor hand injury, however that is not the kind of nurse or paramedic I'd prefer welcoming me into an ambulance...unless I was part of the plot...

http://usnewsghost.wordpress.com/2014/05/13/odessa-massacre-imf-ukraine-...

Wed, 05/14/2014 - 16:57 | 4760523 espirit
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Shoot the fucker down if it's violating the airspace, especially if it is militarized.

Wed, 05/14/2014 - 17:05 | 4760542 Joenobody12
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Arius, you are OK with the use of a peace keeping UN coptor against civilian ? You are one sick mother fucker.

Wed, 05/14/2014 - 17:09 | 4760567 Arius
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hey nobody, i dont even know what the story is ... these guys deal with numbers in terms of millions

Wed, 05/14/2014 - 17:03 | 4760547 NotApplicable
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Wow, you seriously need to step away from the Kool-Aid.

There will be no peace coming from the political class. Not today, nor tomorrow.

NOT EVAR!

Wed, 05/14/2014 - 17:11 | 4760571 Arius
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i know you are right ... but just hope you might be wrong ... but again kerry and lavrov were disappointments

Wed, 05/14/2014 - 17:20 | 4760608 Mr. Delicious
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whaddayou...one of them assburgers?

 

Wed, 05/14/2014 - 17:11 | 4760572 lakecity55
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NAZIs in the sky with Fiat

Wed, 05/14/2014 - 17:57 | 4760738 onthesquare
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UN   US  See the similarity.  United Nations...United States.  Same first name but different last name.  Same mother different father.  Both bastards.

Wed, 05/14/2014 - 16:37 | 4760431 Stackers
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And why the fuck does the UN own Russian assualt choppers in the first place ?

Wed, 05/14/2014 - 16:38 | 4760437 the not so migh...
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i think hardware is loaned to them, they really don't own anything.

Wed, 05/14/2014 - 17:08 | 4760564 Stackers
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Why the fuck does the UN need Russian assualt choppers loaned to them ?

Wed, 05/14/2014 - 17:29 | 4760643 TheFourthStooge-ing
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.

Why the fuck does the UN need Russian assualt choppers loaned to them ?

To exterminate, ummmm, I mean to bring peace to Liberia and Democratic Republic of Congo.

The Ukrainian Yatzi Junta in Kyiv had them flown back to Ukraine because having three helicopters shot down wiped out 20 percent of their fleet.

http://zaslon-shield.blogspot.fr/2014/05/kievs-peacekeeping-choppers-ove...

Wed, 05/14/2014 - 16:41 | 4760442 caShOnlY
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mother do you think they'll try to break my balls?  mother do you think they make your little boy cry?

mother do you think they'll drop the bomb?

Wed, 05/14/2014 - 18:01 | 4760747 onthesquare
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mother should I trust the government?

...leave them kids alone.

Wed, 05/14/2014 - 17:23 | 4760506 Bunga Bunga
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But a real Nazi would use the Flugscheibe only. I guess it's Blackwater/Xi/Academi in fake Ukrainian army uniforms and in fake UN helicopters.

Wed, 05/14/2014 - 17:07 | 4760561 Berspankme
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Lavrov better get a # campaign going ASAP. Obuttfuck and Nucunt have shown the world how effective this tool is for diplomacy.

Wed, 05/14/2014 - 16:33 | 4760407 crazzziecanuck
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Duh, Ukraine can't afford the paint.  lol

Wed, 05/14/2014 - 16:41 | 4760440 Canucklehead
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I agree that is the answer. 

I can't believe Lavrov wouldn't do a "sad face" selfie tweet with an image of the the chopper in the background.  He is seriously being out manuevered in the diplomatic front.

Wed, 05/14/2014 - 16:51 | 4760496 agstacks
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Awesome...

Wed, 05/14/2014 - 17:37 | 4760674 TheFourthStooge-ing
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This guy's comment is stupid. I admit, it is what you expect from Ukrainian Yatzi Junta Citizenism cheap propaganda...

Wed, 05/14/2014 - 16:41 | 4760444 jayman21
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UN looks like it was put there by a very large sharpie

Wed, 05/14/2014 - 16:43 | 4760448 Relentless101
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Haha. That was my thought as well. 

General: Paint over those logos private.

Soldier: But sir, that would cost like 5 dollars.

General: Forget painting over the logo private.

Wed, 05/14/2014 - 17:29 | 4760645 Bunga Bunga
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'cause the money was spent on Blackwater mercenaries.

Wed, 05/14/2014 - 16:34 | 4760411 pods
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Either they were using UN helicopters and got caught with their pants around their ankles, or they painted UN on a military chopper, ie a false flag and deserve to be treated without the conventions of war.

And just think, the US is on this side of the table.  What next, Blackwater (whatever the current name is) shock troops stepping out of them?

pods

Wed, 05/14/2014 - 16:38 | 4760436 BandGap
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The UN would have denied that this was their helicopter.

This is an ancillary benefit of our "electronic age", people can video anything with a cell phone.

Wonder what the bounty is for a Merc these days.

Vee haf vays of makink you talk.

Wed, 05/14/2014 - 16:58 | 4760526 litemine
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Wonder what the Bounty on a Merc is?

If i had a chance I'd do one for free. Low lifes.......Murder for hire.......Wait till the Gallows convict War Criminals.    The CIA and those they hire is a good start, follow the Money and capture all the Bastards. This is not Deocratic and yes, I can handle the truth....just need some one like Snowden to reveal the truth.

Wed, 05/14/2014 - 16:34 | 4760413 Charles The Ham...
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Hitler is running the UN now?

Wed, 05/14/2014 - 17:33 | 4760656 Headbanger
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Nein nein nein nein nein!!

 Aber er ist erdrückend Kahn!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hfRNvhOW-Uo&list=PL8DA46F96144A9700

 

Wed, 05/14/2014 - 16:34 | 4760414 Theta_Burn
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Rules?

We have at least a 6billion investment in this kaos, rules don't apply to "US" you should know better Mr. Moon

Wed, 05/14/2014 - 16:44 | 4760452 Omen IV
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Putin is out of his mind if he lets the US have permanet status in Ukraine - he will end up with no Russian country within 10 years

Biden already has his retirement funding staked out in the gas distribution system and now a $1 billion loan guaranteed besides - they will declare after May 25th with or without winning the vote - US intervention is necessary in country

why not trun over 1,000 man pods to the people for their defense?

Wed, 05/14/2014 - 17:09 | 4760565 Theta_Burn
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Putin isn't out of his mind, or stupid.

US boots on the ground? no way, we will just continue the bribing and merc funding, until Russia has had enough, then its civil war AND Russian intervention (for humanitarian reasons) by the 2nd volley better than 70% Ukrainian forces abandon their efforts.

Putin hasn't even started his covert ops yet

 

Wed, 05/14/2014 - 17:37 | 4760665 Omen IV
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maybe you're righ but there seems to be something else going on - if he knows Greystone is on the ground and with american assets (helicopters etc) why not send in mercanaries as well and take out 100 tanks, APC's and aircraft with hand held missles - cheap and fast

Cheney took the Iraq national oil co and distributed it to his friends - Putin has enough to do the same or Biden will take it for himself

why wait -  go in before the 25th and create more chaos so there is no vote in the south and east and create illegitimacy no matter who is in charge

 otherwise Crimea will be hemmed in on all sides - they will take it from him

Wed, 05/14/2014 - 16:34 | 4760416 Tsar Pointless
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So apparently the US/UN vs. Russia will be very much like the political choices we are given here in Amerikkka - a choice between two evils.

Same as it ever was, I suppose.

Wed, 05/14/2014 - 22:11 | 4761417 StychoKiller
Wed, 05/14/2014 - 16:35 | 4760419 SheepDog-One
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Lavrov needs to start reading ZH, then he wouldn't just be suspecting US mercenaries are there in UN helicopters, he'd know that's a fact.

Wed, 05/14/2014 - 16:47 | 4760462 Quus Ant
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It's called tact.  Add it to facts and you have a winning hand.  When two rustlers are wrangling over the same herd they still take care not to spook them.  Frighten the herd and all bets are off.

Wed, 05/14/2014 - 16:54 | 4760507 Bastiat
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. . .  or he could read the German papers.

Wed, 05/14/2014 - 18:02 | 4760752 Theta_Burn
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Zing...

Wed, 05/14/2014 - 18:47 | 4760898 sushi
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I' sure the only reason for the UN logo on those helicopters was the need to cover up the Academi brand mark.

Wed, 05/14/2014 - 16:40 | 4760427 JuliaS
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Mi-24? I had no idea UN even had those. Then again, there were clips of troops on both sides wearing decommissioned gear. They don't even bother to remove name tags and banners.

Wed, 05/14/2014 - 19:38 | 4761066 RafterManFMJ
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FFS it's magazines, not clips.

Wed, 05/14/2014 - 16:37 | 4760428 Lin S
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White helicopters are the new black helicopters.

Wed, 05/14/2014 - 16:39 | 4760438 BandGap
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Cloud camoflage.

Wed, 05/14/2014 - 16:54 | 4760508 agstacks
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That might be raciss, yo..

Wed, 05/14/2014 - 17:26 | 4760631 Patriot Eke
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Well, at least it makes surrendering easier.

Wed, 05/14/2014 - 16:37 | 4760430 kchrisc
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I think that it's par for the course, as the UN is just another war making cover org for the banksters of the West.

With that said, I, as an American citizen, not DC US subject, want the UN to go--Leave the shores of the American country.

DC No! FedRes No! and UN go!

Wed, 05/14/2014 - 17:21 | 4760612 ChanceIs
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Ummmm.  Like Dude.  Like.......back a few years ago (W?) we never paid our UN dues.  That never upset me.  but like....it upset a lot of liberal/one world government people.  So like...are we current on our...like dues?  (I personally hope not.)  But llike...we have $1 billion sitting in the cash drawer to pay Gazprom dues.  How screwed up is that?

One world government!?!?!

I loved it when Imelda Marcos had her 500 pound daughter jump out of her birthday cake signing "We Are The World."  Whatever happened to all of those shoes.

Notice we haven't seen much of Obama recently?  Putin says he is going to the 70th anniversary of D-Day in just a few weeks.  Wanna bet Biden shows up in his place?

Wed, 05/14/2014 - 22:13 | 4761423 StychoKiller
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Imelda's shoe collection is now part of a museum.

Wed, 05/14/2014 - 16:37 | 4760433 Wizard of Ozman
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Nuland is on the way with white spray paints and cookies for all the Mercs, hold tight.

Wed, 05/14/2014 - 16:39 | 4760439 Mr. Delicious
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Because the US is the UN, and the US is ZATO, and ZATO is the top international banks and war profiteers, and they have their own private army, and by means of deception they wage war.

I'm sure the Times and CNN will cover this....

Wed, 05/14/2014 - 16:42 | 4760451 tony wilson
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whats the beef

we are united and ukrainia is a naz zion

Wed, 05/14/2014 - 16:44 | 4760459 dirtyfiles
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next NATO will build Trojan Horse you know as a gift

Wed, 05/14/2014 - 16:45 | 4760464 b_thunder
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UN = UkraiNa

Wed, 05/14/2014 - 17:31 | 4760650 Panafrican Funk...
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Side note, there was an add for "Bodybuilding Singles" on my sidebar when I clicked on this story, and pictured was a pretty attractive blonde/Eastasian looking lady who obviously spends a lot of time in the gym.  I think various entities within the ZH infrastructure are trying to get me to associate Russia with hot, dominant women.

It worked pretty great.  Well done sirs. 

Wed, 05/14/2014 - 16:48 | 4760469 LawsofPhysics
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Please, there is no legitimate government in Ukraine.  Ergo, there is no legitimate military either... Duh.

Wed, 05/14/2014 - 16:48 | 4760479 Seize Mars
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UN = David Rockefeller.
Don't make any mistake about it: if they are in Ukraine it is because he said so. It didn't happen without his approval.
Now, knowing that, work backwards until solution to problem is reached. Have a nice day.

Wed, 05/14/2014 - 16:50 | 4760481 ebworthen
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Fucking UN.

And "peacekeeping" operations...*cough*!

The West is making a huge mistake; and fuck Brussels, the IMF, Wall Street, and our crony CONgress that is STEALING taxpayer money without shame and giving it to neo-Nazi's in Kiev.

Rot in Hell you bastards.

Wed, 05/14/2014 - 16:51 | 4760497 rodonmeguro
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Probably because most everybody in the world knows the Russians are a bunch of scumbags and would like to see them get out of Ukraine.

Wed, 05/14/2014 - 17:45 | 4760694 TheFourthStooge-ing
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Projection, Ukrainian Yatzi Junta Citizenists know a lot about that. They often accuse others of what they do themselves. It is part of the Ukrainian Yatzi Junta Citizenism culture sort of.

Wed, 05/14/2014 - 17:56 | 4760726 Theta_Burn
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@rodent..

And yet prior to a CIA funded violent coup that placed unelected nazi officials in power (and who just got a $billion loan from uncle sam) Not 1 Russian was a scumbag, to anyone really..

 

Wed, 05/14/2014 - 16:52 | 4760503 b_thunder
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Very interseting when it's coming fro mTV station that hasn't noticed neither 25000 "green men" that suddenly appeared in Crimea, riding UNMARKER trucks with MOSCOW license paltes and carrying "made exclusively for Russian Army AK-100" assault rifles.

The same channel that doesn't notice 60000 russkiesamassed near the border.

When "official" Kremlin news source reports something, ANYTHING, the truth is complete opposite.

 

Wed, 05/14/2014 - 17:49 | 4760713 TheFourthStooge-ing
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What do we have here? Nothing. Save a Ukrainian Yatzi Junta Citizenist creating his own context to propagate.

Wed, 05/14/2014 - 17:55 | 4760730 Theta_Burn
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@blunder...

See post just above

Wed, 05/14/2014 - 16:56 | 4760514 AdvancingTime
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It seems the US intends to keep pushing until this turns into a full blown war. The idea of America getting involved or jumping into a war in Ukraine would have been hard to imagine a  few years ago. The potential for this to escalate into a shooting war is real. Allowing events to deteriorate into a major war or possibly into what some see as World War III is becoming a reality.

As insane as it appears this could become the final outcome. The location of this as a military confrontation is right in Putin's backyard and this is a strong advantage for Russia. It is silly to think Putin and Russia will back down. This means poking the bear is not a smart move. It should be noted the military of Ukraine is divided and extremely weak. More about this subject in the article below.

http://brucewilds.blogspot.com/2014/04/war-in-ukraine-bad-idea_26.html

Wed, 05/14/2014 - 17:02 | 4760537 ChanceIs
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Also listen to this Greg Hunter interview of Paul Crag Roberts.  PCR thinks Ukraine has next to no military.  They used to have nukes until the West talked them out of keeping them.  We are good at doing favors for people.  Remember how we sent our neoKeynesians over to Japan 20 years ago to advise them that they weren't printing enough money/deficit spending?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m1vndEG1Za4

 

Wed, 05/14/2014 - 22:18 | 4761431 StychoKiller
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Darn it, how we s'posed to find those missing girlz unless we search in Ukraine??

Wed, 05/14/2014 - 16:57 | 4760519 ChanceIs
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I just heard that UN helicopters are no longer welcome in the SE quadrant of the space station.

Is there anything more pathetic than seeing a grown man behaving ten times larger than his britches.  I love my country, but Putin is holding most of the cards.  THis isn't like Iraq where the leader - Saddam - had a lot to lose if he lost his sovereignty.  Putin doesn't lose if Ukraine goes into civil war.  For sure through all of the tragic anarchary, the people in the SE will see him as their savior more and more.

I guess that Obama - or the Neocons didn't read the morning papers about China, Russia and Iran getting closer and ditching the dollar.  How is that "Asian Pivot" working out Barry?

The play here all along was to make Europe less Russian energy dependent, or otherwise build a better relationship with Russia.  I am finally getting around to reading about thorium reactors.  Do you suppose that for the tri$$ion we have spent in Iraq/Afghanistan that we could have worked out all of the technical bugs and built a small fleet in Europe over the last 13 years we have been in Afghanistan?  After all, we built the first nuclear bomb in four years, and that was starting from scratch.

Am so glad that the NASA work force is now properly diversified.  Now where are those plans for the apollo rocket motors?  Russia won't sell us theirs anymore.

Wed, 05/14/2014 - 17:02 | 4760543 the not so migh...
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"I just heard that UN helicopters are no longer welcome in the SE quadrant of the space station."\\


Hit the bar early huh?

Wed, 05/14/2014 - 17:24 | 4760628 ChanceIs
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That would be an allusion to the fact that the Russian are gently hinting that the US has overstayed its welcome in the space station.  No UN choppers in SE  Ukraine - no UN choppers in the SE quadrant of the space station.  Get it?  A bit silly I admit - but a little clever, yes?

Wed, 05/14/2014 - 22:24 | 4761441 StychoKiller
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Meanwhile China deploys HYSY981 in order to look for the missing MH370 airplane (gasp, could that be where those missing Nigerian girlz are?!)

Wed, 05/14/2014 - 17:15 | 4760585 Volkodav
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so much of what you said is wrong, and rambling...

Wed, 05/14/2014 - 17:19 | 4760606 Falconsixone
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Ukra-Cong.....The man in the blue pajamas Dude

Wed, 05/14/2014 - 17:30 | 4760646 ChanceIs
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Lets all put on our pajamas, go to the space station, sit around drinking coco and talk about the disproportionately low number of Nazis in the various governments in SE Ukraine.

Anybody have that Jen Psaki's phone number.  She is cute, and can tell from 6K miles away that their elections are rigged.  Gee whiz.  She didn't notice that 180 miles away in Philadelphia, more than 100% of the voters in some districts went for Obama.

Wed, 05/14/2014 - 17:03 | 4760544 Lin S
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It's official: it's Russia (and eventully China) vs. "The community of Nations (a.k.a the Rockefellers)."

Wed, 05/14/2014 - 17:04 | 4760548 GOLD AND SILVER...
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In all honesty, that's a pretty "ghetto" looking UN logo.  I detect shennanigans. 

Wed, 05/14/2014 - 17:12 | 4760573 tuttisaluti
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The UN goes down the Latrina

Wed, 05/14/2014 - 17:13 | 4760579 Falconsixone
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Drop General Ban Ki-moon out one and see if it's a UN helicopter (Really US taxpayers helicopter, I wanna drive now!)

Wed, 05/14/2014 - 17:16 | 4760588 rodonmeguro
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Russia, the bullly with nukes and a GDP the size of Italy's. The UN and every other country in the world should be standing up to their aggression.

Wed, 05/14/2014 - 17:53 | 4760721 TheFourthStooge-ing
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Ukrainian Yatzi Junta Citizenists, always playing victims when they are the victimizers. Bully style...

Wed, 05/14/2014 - 17:17 | 4760593 lakecity55
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"Max, KAOS has taken control of UN choppers to do their deadly work. Take 99 and get on it, fast!"

"Right, Chief (trips on carpet)."

Wed, 05/14/2014 - 17:18 | 4760596 BaghdadBob
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Ukraine is turning out to be one of the biggest nails in the US coffin, to date. Their dirty fingerprints are all over this shitstorm and it's blatantly obvious this time. Instead of drumming up war propaganda it appears the MSM are having to work overtime to keep stuff quiet on this one. The US got away with Iraq-istan, Arab Spring and Lybia. In Syria they crossed Putins red line. But this new mess they've created on the edge of Europe and Russia is finally going to bite them in the ass. It's now obvious that the Emperor isn't wearing any clothes. Although the EU are making noises about sanctions etc, they know they've got their backs against the wall on this one. Put yourself in Europe's shoes - do you continue to support a morally/socially & financially bankrupt rogue fascist military state, or do you side with one of your biggest energy suppliers that also happens to be a neighbour and a trading partner? That's right, doesn't take much thought does it? Putin is going to fuck those crazy yanks once and for all and the EU knows it. Russia/China centric global economy. Eurasia is lining up to be the new global super power but the US is trying to put everything in it's way (including the threat of WWIII). Bush Senior was right - there is going to be a new world order, but what he failed to mention is that the good 'ole U.S.A isn't going to be a member. At this point one must tip a hat to Dr. Jim Willie as his sources.

Wed, 05/14/2014 - 17:40 | 4760684 ChanceIs
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+50 Bingo.

Hate to see the country I grew up in and love stepping on its schlong like this.

Could Obama have picked a less profssional looking press secretary than Jay Carney.  THe man didn't get to choose his looks.  The only problem is that he behaves just the way he looks.  You know - that hot coco and pajamas appearance - dazed and confused - easily flustered.  (I am getting a lot of mileage out of that this PM.)

Wed, 05/14/2014 - 18:03 | 4760755 acommenter
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Putin has stated that he wants a basket of varius coins as a world reserve currency which will include US dollar. He is in for a true multipolar world as opposed to the "full spectrum dominance" of US.

Wed, 05/14/2014 - 20:55 | 4761247 NickVegas
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Explains why the plan to destroy America is working by the numbers.

Thu, 05/15/2014 - 04:21 | 4761791 AnAnonymous
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Ukraine is turning out to be one of the biggest nails in the US coffin, to date. Their dirty fingerprints are all over this shitstorm and it's blatantly obvious this time. Instead of drumming up war propaganda it appears the MSM are having to work overtime to keep stuff quiet on this one.
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'Americans' are always obvious in their manners. It is how they work. When they started, for example, they declared freedom as a inalienable right to human beings when keeping human beings as slaves. It was obvious to anyone.

'Americanism' is all about submission. 'Americans' usually comes up with an assertion that is obviously false. People adopt the false proposition or reject it. Then it is them against us 'american' style.

Ukraine business changes nothing. For years, it was forecast that 'americans' were heading to central Asia. They are. It was obvious then. It is obvious now.

'Americans' first objective is not war, it is to get a working foothold closer to the terminus.
They are getting that.

'Americans' always work the same, they have been since 1776, July, 4th.

Wed, 05/14/2014 - 17:22 | 4760613 novictim
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Little Green Men wondering who has them in their cross hairs?  

Better for them to wonder how they can get their asses back to Mother Russia ASAP.

When the Ukrainians are full trained in use of the Carl Gustav...days from now at the most... then Russia better consider how it will be affording a new tank corp.

Better for you folks to stop the war agitating, admit you have no chance of defecting further territory to Russia, and participate in the May 25th elections.  

Given time, the Ukrainian loyalists will likely forgive you.

Wed, 05/14/2014 - 17:59 | 4760741 TheFourthStooge-ing
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This is the Ukrainian Yatzi Junta Citizenism order. An order wallowing in the denial of the most basic reality.

Other people, well, they know that Ukrainian Yatzi Junta Citizenism stands very high in the list of systems that roots deep in fantasical references...

Wed, 05/14/2014 - 17:23 | 4760622 Falconsixone
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Nice work Murdock...Don't tell me where you got it. [Que the A-Team theme song]

Wed, 05/14/2014 - 17:28 | 4760636 Falconsixone
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Meet beautiful Ukraine ladys on Bombedout.com.

Wed, 05/14/2014 - 17:33 | 4760658 Mr. Delicious
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As noted in the link above, the cover story is Ukraine donated the choppers to the UN, who painted them, then when they were given back, Ukraine never bothered repainting them, and the UN is like, totally pissed off about it, and Ukraine can expect a tersely-worded letter in 6-12 weeks.

I contend, fwiw, that the biggest story in all this isn't so much the brazen fuckery of Barry and Zbig and the Neocon-Realists...

It is the level of media control.  To read the Times, or watch CNN or Fox, as most Americans do, you would think this is a battle between good and evil and we, despite the overwhelming evidence since WW2  [how about killing 2 million or so Korean civilians, probably more Vietnamese...all for freedom and the MIC] are the good guys.

The average American is hopeless, but Times readers, say, are supposed to be pretty savvy. But to read the comments, not only are they ignorant of NATO expansion, or the contrast between say Kosovo and Crimea, or the double standards as between how the US treats Russia in Crimea v. Israel in the Occupied Territories - they actually "know" the reverse of history....  for them, Putin is the new Hitler {of course, just as Saddam was, then Ahmadinejad] and it is the Eastern Ukrainians who are the Nazis... not the fucking Nazis who were largely responsible for the IMF/NATO coup in Kiev.

It's not just typical war propaganda, not just repeating the same lie-based jingoism and yellow journalism relative moments after the disastrous Iraq War - it is absolutely lying to an American people, who are absolutely incapable of doubting what comes from their TV or from their government - present company excepted.

Wed, 05/14/2014 - 17:55 | 4760731 Wahooo
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Typical of authoritarian regimes. Look at how sad dam positioned his wars. Total lies. TPTB at home no different. The illusion of democracy works away at belying what we see before us.

Wed, 05/14/2014 - 21:18 | 4761300 luckystars
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The people that control the white house control the media. It was the same with Bush and the fake WMDs in Iraq.

Wed, 05/14/2014 - 22:34 | 4761467 StychoKiller
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Yup, Time magazine had a cover story "What does Putin want?", and painted the story that Russia is de-stabilizing Ukraine!  Apparently, you CAN make this sh!t up!

Wed, 05/14/2014 - 17:37 | 4760664 Dre4dwolf
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I don't understand why Russia doesn't just up and take over Ukraine, the U.N and USA could send everything they had to defend it, and at best it would be a stalemate like Vietnam.

The U.S. Knows it no longer has the power-gap ahead of Russia to hold it back, and it would shamefully back-off while Russia easily gobbles Ukraine up.

We are no longer a lone-super-power, the technology and military capabilities of Russia and China have completely bridged the gap of the soviet era, and the U.S. economy is extremely fragile, and deffinatly would collapse on even the slightest "real war" scenario. (IE: going from attacking mythical men in caves, to actually confronting a mechanized military like Russia).

The U.S. Simply can't afford any form of a real - long - mechanized war, it would plunge the domestic economy into a complete depression.

War is only "good for the economy" if you are not fighting the war, thats why we did so well during the first and 2nd world war, because we pretty much stayed out of it, and the rest of the world went into debt to buy american products (boots, tires, tanks, guns, food etc....) .

But if you are actually the one fighting the war. . .  well . . .  you end up like post WWII Germany.

look how much we spent on the "war on terror ™" , trillions . . .  all to kill one or two dudes hiding in a cave, we didnt even get any land or booty out of it (well except for a few private interests).


Wed, 05/14/2014 - 18:29 | 4760835 ross81
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There's no need for Russia to take over Ukraine. Crimea was the only part of it vital to Russian security & most Crimeans were Russian citizens or ethnic anyway. If it were to occupy the country, that'd be at a huge expense, both financially and in terms of lives. We could well see a scenario where Ukrainian fascist insurgents are armed by the West, leading to another bloody & draining Afghan or Chechen-style adventure (Brezinski's wet dream). Putin's too clever to fall for that old trick.

No, best thing for Russia is to let the US/EU waste 10s of billions trying to keep this failed state on life support. Of course that cant happen because the EU/US are kinda broke too, so inevitably, within a few years at the most, we will see the return of a govt to Kiev that will desperately need to appeal to Moscow for financial & energy aid. Russia will be happy to provide it (with perhaps a few more strings attached) as it has done so for most of the last decade.

Wed, 05/14/2014 - 20:57 | 4761250 August
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Russia doesn't want Ukraine as a vassal state, it wants Germany as a strategic partner.

Wed, 05/14/2014 - 17:37 | 4760676 RMolineaux
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The  photo of the helicopter is clearly a false flag attempt.  Helicopters in UN missions are marked "ONU", which is the French and Spanish acronym.  They are also painted in the largest space available on the body of the vehicle to minimize mis-identification.

Wed, 05/14/2014 - 17:38 | 4760679 MrTouchdown
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The de-escalation.... continues

Wed, 05/14/2014 - 17:45 | 4760693 hobopants
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Ok guys, how long does it take to stencil UN on the side of a hind? jeebus I think the US is running amok in the Ukraine too, but lets be a little more skeptical. If it was a blackhawk, chinook or some other western model I would have raised an eye brow.

On a side note, is there any other helicopter that looks as bad ass as a Hind? 

Wed, 05/14/2014 - 17:51 | 4760715 Atomizer
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That's fucked up.  (stencil)

Wed, 05/14/2014 - 18:32 | 4760807 hobopants
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Pretty much what it looks like, I really don't see a story here aside from some military personnel being too lazy to paint over the UN logo.

It's like putting a sticker of the US flag on a kalashnikov and then saying "Why are so many Ukrainians using assault rifles manufactured in the USA?"

Some people need to stop wearing their tin foil hats so close to the microwave.

Wed, 05/14/2014 - 17:45 | 4760696 NoWayJose
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I would love to see the US mercs engage the East Ukraine 'rebels' and for a Spetsnaz strike team to swoop in and capture them. This whole business smells, and gets smellier every day.

Wed, 05/14/2014 - 17:47 | 4760702 Atomizer
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Stencils and a can of black spray paint.

 

/lol

Wed, 05/14/2014 - 17:50 | 4760716 luckylogger
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So the russians are pissed because the ukrane government is using the helicopters that russia gave them for something that russia does not approve of.

Kinda sounds like what the US does also.

Wed, 05/14/2014 - 17:51 | 4760717 kurt
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It's easy. The reptilians running the show are getting sloppy with their masks.

Wed, 05/14/2014 - 17:54 | 4760724 shovelhead
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Ok,

Here's how it is.

The UN subcontractors traded the chopper to the Serbians for some sex slave action to while away the hours in between watching all of Milosevic's murders and years later, the Uke Nazi's borrowed it from the Serbs because of a birds of a feather sort of thing.

They just keep the UN paint on there because it helps flying the sex slave girls across the Euro borders. If anyone asks what they're doing they tell them they're doing halal meat inspections so the Muslims don't get cheated.

Nobody says shit to that.

Euros are funny about their Muslims. Don't ask, don't tell.

Wed, 05/14/2014 - 18:46 | 4760892 freedom5000
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BRICS countries should leave the UN and start their own. Obviously the UN is a joke and a pastsy of the west.

Wed, 05/14/2014 - 18:48 | 4760905 ZeroFreedom
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Why does the UN have an Attack Helicopter in the Ukraine. Whole thing does not make sense.

Wed, 05/14/2014 - 18:50 | 4760913 teslaberry
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if this were on liveleak, i'd be expecting allahu snakbar on there. and some explosions. 

Wed, 05/14/2014 - 18:50 | 4760916 JJdog
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Must be the weather! ripid warming of temperture usually turn any letter on an attack helicopter in to UN. no big deal, you can ask Yellen. 

Wed, 05/14/2014 - 19:12 | 4760973 Smiley
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Everybody relax; John Kerry's office has just announced that "Mercenary Free Zone" signs have been post throughout Ukraine.  All is well again in the Kingdom of Rainbows and Unicorns.

Wed, 05/14/2014 - 20:25 | 4761165 Buster Cherry
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Yet another stick to poke at the bear, and one day he's gonna pull out the claws and fangs.

Wed, 05/14/2014 - 21:40 | 4761352 sablya
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Lavrov shouldn't be bothered by that.  He should mind his own business.  If UN helicopters are flying in Ukraine, what is that to him?

Wed, 05/14/2014 - 22:06 | 4761404 IridiumRebel
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Well, it breaks rules and looks bad. I could give a fuck, but both sides are moving towards war. I am unapologetic for both. Just wish this shit would stop.

Wed, 05/14/2014 - 22:49 | 4761487 Volkodav
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and what is it to you then?

better worry about your own country.

 

 

Wed, 05/14/2014 - 21:46 | 4761367 sablya
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Maybe Lavrov would like to explain the presence of the Wolves' Hundred in Eastern Ukraine in full complement, led by Russian citizens, Ponomaryov and Mozhaev. They are part of the Cossack militias that have been in the service of Russian President Vladimir Putin for almost a decade, and they say they will not go home until they conquer Ukraine or die trying.

http://time.com/95898/wolves-hundred-ukraine-russia-cossack/

Can you believe the audacity of those men?

Of course there is no official connection between those forces and the Kremlin which gives the Kremlin some semblance of plausible deniability, but nevertheless facts are stubborn things. There is no valid reason for Russian citizens such as Mozhaev and Ponomaryov to be occupying buildings in Eastern Ukraine.

And they've vowed to take over Kiev or go home in a body bag. Those men are terrorists, illegally in Ukraine, fomenting insurrection and in open war against the country and people of Ukraine.  

I would hire thousands of the best mercenaries from around the world, train them with the Berkut and Ukrainian military and then go take out the trash.

Wed, 05/14/2014 - 22:44 | 4761486 Volkodav
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Time is terrible propaganda

Sablya sez "I would hire" blah blah blah

You wouldn't do crap.  Useless talkings.

use Time for source proves you have no clue.

Thu, 05/15/2014 - 00:21 | 4761633 TheFourthStooge-ing
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.

Of course there is no official connection between those forces and the Kremlin which gives the Kremlin some semblance of plausible deniability, but nevertheless facts are stubborn things.

Quite a lot of drivel in this guy's comment is the only fact to be drawn.

Those men are terrorists, illegally in Ukraine, fomenting insurrection and in open war against the country and people of Ukraine.

Ah, best description yet of Yats and the Yatzis.

I would hire thousands of the best mercenaries from around the world, train them with the Berkut and Ukrainian military and then go take out the trash.

Always the other's fault. It is always funny how Ukrainian Yatzi Junta Citizenists exclude themselves of behaviours that are typical Ukrainian Yatzi Junta Citizenish behaviours.

But don't disturb the Banderastani order as it is perceived by Ukrainian Yatzi Junta Citizenists. They love so much their cocoon of duplicity. Facts would be too hard on them.

Wed, 05/14/2014 - 21:50 | 4761378 nah
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cuz their crooks hijacking property extrajudicially like supernational assoles

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its Ukraine bitchez

Thu, 05/15/2014 - 00:09 | 4761609 damicol
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As France is just about to deliver two warships to Russia, and Siemens has just inferred that they can build better ships at cheaper prices, and can prove it if they give them an order for six, but they must be quick, as this is a one time special offer, and delivery of three will take place next Tuesday if they can sign the contract today, and the FUW, (fat unfuckable witch) will ensure that the defense minister will be met personally in Switzerland in the lobby of SNB along with an investment adviser from GS, and a Cayman Island company formation specialist, just to help with technical details you understand,

Of course the delivery of the other three warships might be delayed due to technical reasons, but if necessary Mr FUV (fat unfuckable veryzealous) from Greece can also be on hand to explain the more technical details  regarding these matters in respect of ships and submarines, but that could , possibly, maybe  well likely to incur additional fees that cannot possibly be quantified at this early stage. But Mr FUV is a very reasonable man we once heard (well maybe once when he was 110 lbs)

I'm sure you understand. (any chance eastern Ukraine might want to buy some cheap submarines)

However Germans will also be proud to stand shoulder to shoulder with our business colleagues in Russia.  FFFWDTTTASOWB (fucking french fucks, who do they think they are stealing our warship business)

 

 

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