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China Slams US "Hypocrisy", Tells Obama To Stop "Inspiring Militancy"

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Tensions between China and the U.S. continue to grow. On Wednesday, Beijing called U.S. Secretary remark about "provocative behavior" of China in the South China Sea "inspiring militancy," and insisted that the U.S. "stop encouraging the provocation" of the Philippines and Vietnam. As China Daily reports, China has expressed the view that the U.S. must abandon the "hypocrisy" and stop publicly support Vietnam and the Philippines in territorial disputes with China.

As RIA reports, Tensions between China and the U.S. continues to grow, experts say. On Wednesday, Beijing called U.S. Secretary remark about "provocative behavior" of China in the South China Sea "inspiring militancy," writes China Daily .

Chinese Foreign Minister Wang Yi said in a telephone conversation with John Kerry that China insists that the U.S. "stop encourage provocation" of the Philippines and Vietnam.


According to analysts, so China has expressed the view that the U.S. must abandon the "hypocrisy" and stop publicly support Vietnam and the Philippines in territorial disputes with China.


Earlier it was reported that the Philippine government to seize the Chinese fishing boat and 11 crew members on charges of catching endangered sea turtles in the territory disputed waters of the South China Sea. Shortly before that, Vietnam demanded that China stop drilling for oil in the South China Sea.


Tensions between China, Vietnam and the Philippines began to increase after last week, President Barack Obama signed a new military agreement with the Philippines, which aims to persuade Asian allies of American support in case of conflict with Beijing.


According to experts, the reason why the conflict risks becoming much more serious than just a territorial dispute is because Philippines quickly became embroiled in the geopolitical rivalry between the U.S. and China, while the two powers are fighting for strategic dominance in the western Pacific Ocean, says Al Jazeera article "Strategic Dilemma of the Philippines, between the eagle and the dragon."


Professor at the Chinese Institute of International Relations Dan Dzhankun believes that the U.S. is fully engaged in the problems encountered in the Asia-Pacific region because of its relationship with China. However, Washington's aggressive behavior in the territory of South-East Asia is unlikely to stabilize the situation. "The Obama administration is moving away from a century of U.S. diplomatic tradition in maintaining the balance between the other two countries," - said the expert, noting that "sabotage relations between the south-eastern countries may have important implications for the situation in the region and even the world. And fatal mistakes in strategy, which adheres Obama can not be ignored."

Seems like the potential for "costs" are growing...


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Thu, 05/15/2014 - 14:02 | 4763323 The Gooch
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<----- Barry's bowing

<----- Barry's blowing

Thu, 05/15/2014 - 14:03 | 4763333 Arius
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Kerry again, and again in trouble ... why am  I not suprise ... where did they found this guy?

Thu, 05/15/2014 - 14:05 | 4763343 Renewable Life
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Kerry siding with the Vietnamese government should feel like coming home to an old friend, for him!

Thu, 05/15/2014 - 14:09 | 4763359 economics9698
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Cockroach class is desperate for a war, anywhere, war needed.


China and Russia should let the USA drown in their own piss.  When the fiat dies there are a few hard core mother fuckers who know where the rope is and the nearest tree.

Thu, 05/15/2014 - 14:15 | 4763405 Dr. Richard Head
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Doesn't China understand how they could cripple the US Governemtn by burning the debt they hold?

Thu, 05/15/2014 - 14:21 | 4763433 El Vaquero
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Which is why I don't expect war tomorrow.  Maybe next month, maybe next year, but not until even bolder moves against the USD are made, and our ability to import oil is severely hampered.  Then, there may be no need for war with a foreign country, as we will be crippled, and may be experiencing a war amongst ourselves.  Shit is only just starting to get serious.  There is still quite a bit more economic escalation that can happen, and I expect that it will happen.  If you look at it from a purely logical standpoint and throw ethics out the window, if the US truly wants a war, it needs to fire the first shot, and it needs to do so soon. 

Thu, 05/15/2014 - 14:23 | 4763438 Latina Lover
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Asking the USSA to stop attacking other nations is like asking a pedophile not to re-offend, or asking the Abominator to stop sucking Reggies Root.

Thu, 05/15/2014 - 14:25 | 4763445 El Vaquero
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Sure, but firing the first shot against Russia or China is a lot different than bombing some brown people inhabiting some sand. 

Thu, 05/15/2014 - 14:29 | 4763457 SafelyGraze
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the terms of the trans pacific partnership require that we engage in public spats and kabuki theatre

hope you are enjoying!

ps -- let's hurry up and pass it so we can see what's in it! 

Thu, 05/15/2014 - 14:41 | 4763477 ZerOhead
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Obama understands he needs to get some new money into the economy fast or as G W Bush famously said... "This sucker will be going down".

With the need to inject new dollars and/or debt into the economy before everything including precious corporate profitability implodes... the ONLY thing both NeoCon parties can agree on at this time is WAR SPENDING.

For all intents and purposes this is a "Now or never" moment for the struggling American Empire...

Thu, 05/15/2014 - 15:02 | 4763594 Manthong
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How dare they accuse our policy making, banker controlled  .gov  hypocrite warmongers of Inspiring anything but incredulity, resentment and despair.

They should mind their tongues and stick to their domestic credit bubble, housing bubble and resource grabs in marginally sovereign waters.

Thu, 05/15/2014 - 14:26 | 4763448 Joe Davola
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"Inspiring militancy" is line item 1 in a community organizer's job description.

Thu, 05/15/2014 - 14:41 | 4763506 shovelhead
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Holy mackerel!

I never thought about that...

He really is qualified for something after all.


This shakes the very foundations of my world view.

Thu, 05/15/2014 - 14:52 | 4763557 Random_Robert
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That's an interesting allegory (pedophiles),  since so many of those sick, deranged fuckers manage to get themselves elected into the US government:


Thu, 05/15/2014 - 14:46 | 4763526 The Gooch
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Every extra day to enjoy peace and prepare accordingly is a good day.

That notion helps keep the powder dry.

KNOW that day IS coming. 


Thu, 05/15/2014 - 14:21 | 4763434 aVileRat
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Take a wild guess what is currently back stopping the RNB.

It's not Chinese arms exports or wall mart steak knife sets.

On another note, I kind of wish the Russian "top gun" was set to Danger Zone this year. FSB strategy unit missed a great troll opportunity here.


Thu, 05/15/2014 - 19:31 | 4764594 magnetosphere
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the us dollar, which is itself backed by 10 aircraft carriers and unfettered access to the persian gulf

Thu, 05/15/2014 - 14:42 | 4763502 Sean7k
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One, they're all in this together. Two, even if they weren't, the US could just refuse to honor them. What is China going to do then? It is already a trade war at that point. Three, they have plenty of their own debt to manage and I imagine those treasuries are some of the premium collateral they hold.

Thu, 05/15/2014 - 15:01 | 4763596 SilverRhino
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Yeah they do.  But they WANT to start a war to cover the debt blowup. 


Thu, 05/15/2014 - 17:53 | 4764196 Dugald
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So little many necks !

Fri, 05/16/2014 - 07:20 | 4765726 tonyw
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rope is re-usable.


Thu, 05/15/2014 - 17:53 | 4764197 Dugald
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So little many necks !

Thu, 05/15/2014 - 18:27 | 4764336 caconhma
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Germany twice lost major wars trying to fight on two fronts simultaneously.

Now, a community organizer is conducting US foreign policies fighting against Russia and China simultaneously. It appears that Obama's puppeteers, the Zionist Banking Mafia, became totally intellectually bankrupt getting Napoleonic mentality. These puppeteers still do not understand that they cannot afford any more feebleminded and community organizers as leaders of the Western world.

As for Vietnamese and Philippines, it is not smart on their part to get involved in somebody else wars. There is no anymore Soviet army to defend Vietnamese from China as it was in 1970s.

Thu, 05/15/2014 - 14:09 | 4763368 dontgoforit
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In a catsup bottle.

Thu, 05/15/2014 - 14:17 | 4763421 Martial
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Unfortunately it looks like it's the year of the Horse in the US as well as China.

Thu, 05/15/2014 - 14:33 | 4763468 Joe Tierney
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Under a horse's tail, I imagine.

Thu, 05/15/2014 - 14:37 | 4763483 drendebe10
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"A horse is a horse, of course, of course..."

Thu, 05/15/2014 - 22:54 | 4765207 Peanut Butter E...
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They found Kerry on a horse farm, need I say more?

Thu, 05/15/2014 - 14:09 | 4763360 ZeroPoint
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Why are those mutually exclusive?

Thu, 05/15/2014 - 15:12 | 4763632 lakecity55
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This is why ya don't elect a girlie man to the Presidency.

No Respect. From Anyone!

Thu, 05/15/2014 - 15:15 | 4763639 lakecity55
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Looks like Moar USTs Down The Drain!

Thu, 05/15/2014 - 14:02 | 4763326 Termin8or
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time for O-Bama to place some sanctions on the ChiComs. That will teach them.

Thu, 05/15/2014 - 14:05 | 4763341 Headbanger
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Time for Obama to be recalled from office, is moar like it.

Thu, 05/15/2014 - 15:16 | 4763643 lakecity55
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Time for TPTB to arrange an "Accident" and give ole Joe a shot???

Thu, 05/15/2014 - 21:49 | 4764999 StychoKiller
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Was yer name H.P. Lovecraft in a previous life?  (The Horror!)

Thu, 05/15/2014 - 14:02 | 4763328 joego1
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moar woar

Thu, 05/15/2014 - 14:42 | 4763509 onewayticket2
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Nobel Peace Prize - Tomahawk Edition

Thu, 05/15/2014 - 14:04 | 4763330 Renewable Life
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Stop talking and start dumping Bonds, 200 billion at a time! Then see what the US does or doesn't do! The US Government currently in run by insane, short sided, egomaniac sociopaths, so expecting to be able to rationalize with them in futile!

Thu, 05/15/2014 - 14:04 | 4763340 Arius
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SO WHAT?  will buy it and issue some more ...

Thu, 05/15/2014 - 14:09 | 4763364 medium giraffe
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Only Belgium can save us now.

Thu, 05/15/2014 - 14:42 | 4763510 tradingdaze
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Very funny Mr. Garaffe. I spit my coffee all over my puter.

Thu, 05/15/2014 - 14:47 | 4763530 shovelhead
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Good one. This could be Belgiums 'Finest Hour' moment.

Thu, 05/15/2014 - 15:16 | 4763641 Infinite QE
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Ready for the ale and bonds tourism?

Thu, 05/15/2014 - 17:21 | 4764116 MillionDollarBoner_
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What's Belgium famous for? Chocolates and child abuse, and they only invented the chocolates to get to the kids.

Thu, 05/15/2014 - 14:14 | 4763389 Renewable Life
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So you have offically drank the kool aid the lunatics want so badly for the rest of us to drink! The insane premise, that the US dollar has infinate value and ability to be devalued on this planet with NO end or consequences???

I hope your NOT putting your money where your mouth is on this one:) 

The lesson the American people are going to have to "relearn" over the next 2-10 years, may be too much for most to be able to live with! THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS FOREVER IN THIS WORLD, there never was and there never will be! 

They can issue 200 billion at a time for a minute or two, but when the price of "real stuff" becomes two or three times more expensive then it is now, someone WILL pay the piper eventually!

Thu, 05/15/2014 - 14:17 | 4763419 ObamaDepression
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Perhaps you missed his sarcasm

Thu, 05/15/2014 - 14:36 | 4763452 Dr. Engali
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It's a touchy subject. I think that people who have hung out here long enough have gone bat shit crazy from the never ending bullshit. It makes people a little trigger happy after a while. A few days ago I watched a long time poster go off on Tyler and the next thing i know he was shown the front door. 

Thu, 05/15/2014 - 14:52 | 4763553 shovelhead
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But theres still no reason to be unpleasant while you go insane.

Although, some might be put off by the constant smiling.

They think you're up to something.

Thu, 05/15/2014 - 18:04 | 4764232 Dugald
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Yeah! cut the smiling shit and really get inscrutable

Thu, 05/15/2014 - 15:02 | 4763601 Mercuryquicksilver
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There is no sarcasm on this site.

Thu, 05/15/2014 - 14:49 | 4763542 Panafrican Funk...
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Arius is correct in what he said, the Fed/ECB/etc. can simply buy up the excess UST's and, from a nominal value standpoint, there would be a Hillary-esque "what's the difference!"  The consequences of this action are similar to what we've already been experiencing via QE (stealth inflation).  Literally the only thing that matters is whether we can still obtain oil for dollars, and it is somewhat uncertain whether we could in the wake of such a UST dump.  We could probably handle no longer buying shit from China, but if we can't get oil from Saudi Arabia, that's the mad max scenario.

Thu, 05/15/2014 - 14:54 | 4763565 Panafrican Funk...
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Of course, the "funny" part is that Saudi Arabia probably does not have more than 10 years left at anywhere close to current production levels.  Think through he implications, if we improbably don't hit a snag based on petrodollar issues beforehand.  

Thu, 05/15/2014 - 15:02 | 4763598 Arius
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i think you are correct.

Al Huxley i think said they do not need to collect, just dont sell us more stuff ...

Thu, 05/15/2014 - 14:09 | 4763369 CrashisOptimistic
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Suppose their sale is bought, by someone other than the Fed.

Thu, 05/15/2014 - 14:16 | 4763413 pods
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We are not saying you HAVE to buy these bonds with your MYRA, but if you don't, we will take all your money and buy them.


Thu, 05/15/2014 - 14:29 | 4763456 Renewable Life
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It won't matter to China, If the West wants to dig their own grave and then jump in it, China won't go down with them!  Russia is on its way to "decoupling" as we speak, China is too, by the way they are buying everything with gold in it, on it, made of it, and looks like it! There mistake will be waiting too long to unload, not if they unload. 

China has the biggest. most powerful economy and growing, Russia has the MOST undiscovered natural resources on the planet AND the infrastructure and will to export them. India has the biggest emerging economy opportunity on the planet, Latin America hates America for more reasons then we have time to go into, ALL OF THEM WANT OUT FROM UNDER THE US DOLLAR!

WHAT DOES AMERICA HAVE.................trillions in debt, an undereducated population, overtaxation, entitlment run wild, an aging baby boom population, and ARROGENCE enough for the whole world x2

and before we start with the military nonsense....America has a professional Army, which means they get PAID to fight and take orders, when the pay stops coming or can't put food on the tables of their families, then talk to me about all the fancy equipment, etc etc  

No petrodollar = No Professional Military

Ya I'd be golfing everyday too if i was Obama! The Prez wears no clothes and dellusional madness will only continue while the sun shines and its a perfect temp outside..........But Winter is Coming America, and its going to get fucking cold!

Thu, 05/15/2014 - 14:48 | 4763540 Sean7k
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China has the same debt issues the US has, their military is strong on land, weak at sea. Russia is incapable of extracting resources without US- European technology. Latin America is impotent. Africa is genocidal. The US is just the biggest tyrant is a room filled with tyrants. The combined US-EU economies dwarf the BRICS and the BRICS are export driven- no exports, no BRICS.

Thu, 05/15/2014 - 19:03 | 4764482 Renewable Life
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"Latin America is impotent. Africa is genocidal."

Besides the above statement being 100% accurate..... The rest of it is pure fantasy, propaganda straight from the bunkers and think tanks of a dying empire!

The British Empire used to muse itself with that talk about America too!! That turned out to be bullshit didn't it! The BRICS have all the dynamics for a consumer driven growth cycle, especially China!

The hard truth about economic and generational cycles is, there has to be a beginning and there HAS to be an end!! America is at the end of the cycle, the BRICS are at the beginning!!

Thu, 05/15/2014 - 19:38 | 4764617 Sean7k
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Keep fooling yourself and then take a look at those chinese domestic consumption numbers, then if you haven't checked, local credit extended and not being paid and then the housing debacle. Brazil is already falling apart, Russia has its' stock market drop with the most minimal of sanctions. 

It may be popular lately to trash America, and I am not a fan, I assure you, but you have to be fooling yourself if you think the Elites are going to let it all collapse without a plan. Smell the coffee bucko.

Thu, 05/15/2014 - 19:48 | 4764654 Seer
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"The BRICS have all the dynamics for a consumer driven growth cycle, especially China!"

The BRICs are export-driven.  Pretty much everyone except Russia is broke (and Russia is going to hid a hard spot here as they transition from EU markets to Chinese ones- can't switch overnight and the EU is going down fast).

"The hard truth about economic and generational cycles is, there has to be a beginning and there HAS to be an end!! America is at the end of the cycle, the BRICS are at the beginning!!"

You're making a BIG assumption here, that this is just some regular cycle occurring.  This is the end of a super-cycle, a super-cycle based on a vast accumulation of nature's treasures- oil.

Brazil - are you kidding me?

Russia - yes, it DOES has resources (but if the game is wealth generation/creation then you need trade, and the ROW, except China, is dead-ass broke.

India - are you kidding me? (no resources, they've got 750 million people living on $0.50/day)

China - they've peaked.  The don't have resources (key being energy).  They'll just be spending down their accumulations of wealth as internal frictions heat up (promises made, promises foresaken).

South Africa - Someone made this shit up...

Again, Canada, Russia and the US will be the last ones standing.  Paper will burn, books thrown out.  It then comes down to REAL stuff, and these countries have the largest collections of physical/natural resources to at least be a level above stone-age (for a while).

Thu, 05/15/2014 - 14:14 | 4763399 Winston Churchill
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You still think China has UST's ?
Same as Belgium,but the Chinese sold them to the FedRes a long time ago.Their name might be on them ,but it might as well be Donald Duck.

Thu, 05/15/2014 - 14:44 | 4763518 Meat Hammer
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U.S. big hippo clit.

Thu, 05/15/2014 - 14:02 | 4763331 Slave
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What a fag.

Thu, 05/15/2014 - 14:03 | 4763334 CheapBastard
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How dare they talk to our Nobel Peace Prize Winner like that!

I'm muffed.

Thu, 05/15/2014 - 14:07 | 4763353 CheapBastard
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I mean miffed.

Thu, 05/15/2014 - 14:03 | 4763335 gcjohns1971
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You mean the first and only recourse of the President Odrona Administration is to take a militant position and then strategize to back it up with lethal force?



Thu, 05/15/2014 - 14:04 | 4763338 buzzsaw99
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china: shut up and build me a toilet

Thu, 05/15/2014 - 14:06 | 4763350 pods
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Don't you mean toiret?

Thu, 05/15/2014 - 14:53 | 4763554 silentboom
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Thu, 05/15/2014 - 14:07 | 4763351 The Gooch
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an i-toilet.

Thu, 05/15/2014 - 14:12 | 4763385 dontgoforit
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We in toiret.  Please, no flushy.

Thu, 05/15/2014 - 15:00 | 4763590 bonin006
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Your request was anticipated back in 2000:

Thu, 05/15/2014 - 14:05 | 4763342 ted41776
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hypocrisy is not a real word in the US, just as corruption is not a real word in China

Thu, 05/15/2014 - 14:06 | 4763346 IridiumRebel
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Kinda sucks when you lose your moral authority. You believe this shit? if we make it through 2014 without a major crisis in this country, I will be surprised...


Thu, 05/15/2014 - 14:11 | 4763384 pods
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I don't know about you, but to me it seems that this whole facade is cracking in slow motion.

Piss off the Russians with Syria and Ukraine.

Piss off China.

And we are in no place to be doing this, either morally or economically.

We are slouching back towards another recession within this depression, and this is with NIRP and the FED printing (we will not monetize the deficit) around 100 billion a month.

Milk is $4 a gallon and so is gas.  We have a cool trillion in student loans because there are too many unemployed and using school to pretend they are "switching careers" and about a third of these loans are in default.

Can someone please tell me where the silver lining is here?  
Just not seeing any hope in the near future.


Thu, 05/15/2014 - 14:13 | 4763396 dontgoforit
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Big sweep requires big rug.

Thu, 05/15/2014 - 14:26 | 4763450 Anusocracy
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These are feints to ramp up ingroup-outgroup morality.

Circling the wagons to protect the status quo - my country, right or wrong.

Thu, 05/15/2014 - 14:19 | 4763424 IridiumRebel
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Succinct layout of the shit sandwich we are about to consume. 

Thu, 05/15/2014 - 14:28 | 4763455 Old Man River
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I tend to feel that this unravelling is engineered and absolutely intentional. Although it makes little sense to me, to others the unravelling is one step in the path forward.

Thu, 05/15/2014 - 14:34 | 4763472 IridiumRebel
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There will be no shining city on the hill...

Thu, 05/15/2014 - 15:00 | 4763592 shovelhead
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But that firey glow at night will be pretty.

Thu, 05/15/2014 - 14:52 | 4763552 NotApplicable
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I would rephrase that statement.

The unravelling is unavoidable and absolutely directed to unravel in their favor.

Whether it is intentional in its entirety or not all depends upon too many unknowable factors, and thus serves as a ready-made strawman to knock down.

Thu, 05/15/2014 - 14:38 | 4763478 Volkodav
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Good natural whole milk if you can find costs much more than that, and better find non-ethanol gas and PRI additive for it.

America is so robbed...

Thu, 05/15/2014 - 14:38 | 4763492 SWCroaker
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pods, I suspect what you and others do: this is deliberate. 

Shoeing horses is painful (for the horse).   If you don't distract them, they get annoyed, and they are strong.  So humans developed this thing called a "nose twitch": essentially a cinch that you hook over a big flappy piece of horse nose, and then twist good and tight until the horse is cross-eyed, fixated on what the heck is (painfully) going on with it's nose.    Occupies their attention while you dive metal spikes into their hooves.

Iran, Syria, Ukraine, China; the US seems to be desperate for a nose twitch.   Nails r comin'.

Thu, 05/15/2014 - 14:46 | 4763528 nowhereman
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I just had a scarey thought.  What if the government is acting provocatively so that the NSA can Identify who's buying into the propaganda, and who is not.

Are they are beginning to seperate the guards from the prisoners?

Thu, 05/15/2014 - 18:37 | 4764371 kurt
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The internet the most superior filter of people ever invented. Do you feel the malevalence behind the veil?

Thu, 05/15/2014 - 14:52 | 4763558 Sean7k
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I suggest you de-couple from the US economy. Plenty of places in America that are resource rich, people rich and not worth the government's time to bother with. :)

Thu, 05/15/2014 - 14:53 | 4763560 ZerOhead
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American Empire is no longer in the ascendancy globally.

Whether you are a NeoCon or not you can understand that you have to roll the rest of the world that you don't control NOW because you won't get another chance later (post economic/dollar crash)

China has watched the master well lo these last decades. Now they want to play the same game.

Thu, 05/15/2014 - 15:13 | 4763636 Infinite QE
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Long soy lent green

Thu, 05/15/2014 - 15:40 | 4763728 lakecity55
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*Buy Moar Silver!

Thu, 05/15/2014 - 20:40 | 4764794 Seer
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You don't pay off debts to enemies.

"Just not seeing any hope in the near future."

Nor I (and seeing the future is my thing)!

Anyway... to keep kicking the dead horse... the Fed just buys up until it blows up.  As I recently suggested (thinking that eventually the pendulum swings) the bankers will eventually roll over and take: debt jubilee; what do they get out of it? the get to live; everyone then has to figure out how to live.

Thu, 05/15/2014 - 14:21 | 4763432 Bernoulli
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Not possible.

2014 will be the year.

Thu, 05/15/2014 - 14:07 | 4763349 medium giraffe
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If these are not deliberate attempts to take down the US then Hussein Bin-Albama is the stupidest shit to ever wear a suit.  It's fucking tough to call though.

Thu, 05/15/2014 - 14:08 | 4763361 The Gooch
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Don Kirshner says: "In Concert"

Thu, 05/15/2014 - 14:14 | 4763403 dontgoforit
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It has been obvious to me for 5 years.  How much has Geo. Soros got bet against us?  The timing on when the SHTF is dependant on his puts and hedges.

Thu, 05/15/2014 - 15:42 | 4763733 lakecity55
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Either he is doing what he was told to do and he will live, or he is Failing at what he was told to do, and, well, we know how that ends, with a motorcade in Texas.

Thu, 05/15/2014 - 20:45 | 4764811 Seer
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Listen, it was always unsustainable, from WAAY back when.  The game is always about setting up for the end.  That there are folks who are able to leverage off of the end does not mean that they are responsible for it.  And though I believe that there are definitely folks who will profit, I don't believe that the majority of folks are feeling like this is all a good thing- keep in mind that POWER never wants things to change, if it has control and power then WTF would it want to "shake things up," if not for the reason that there's some serious shit coming down that they are seriously worried about.

Thu, 05/15/2014 - 14:09 | 4763363 Jack Burton
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"the U.S. must abandon the "hypocrisy"  Well, If Ameica did that, as China requests, what could we say? The dialog would end, as hypocracy is the State Departments stock and trade. Telling Ukraine's government that using the military against protestors was a criminal act, and now a few months later saying the use of military aginst protestors is an obligation of Ukraine's government. Now, I leave it to you to sort out the hypocracy in those statements.

Or while the USA touts it's pivot of it's major naval and air forces to China's backyard, at the same time it calls Chinese military spending a provocation. Once again, where is the hypocracy there?

Thu, 05/15/2014 - 14:15 | 4763412 dontgoforit
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Poisoned on power, they are.

Thu, 05/15/2014 - 14:10 | 4763370 Old Man River
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Once again our Sec looks likes he was inside the outhouse when lightning struck.

Thu, 05/15/2014 - 17:24 | 4764121 Mesquite
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Thank God I was not holding anything spillable...

Thu, 05/15/2014 - 14:11 | 4763380 RealityCheque
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Barry does understand what a US treasury bill is right?

Does he also understand that China has a nuclear shitload of them and this means they effctively have him by his big gay balls?

Guess not. Carry on Mincer-in-Chief.

Thu, 05/15/2014 - 20:49 | 4764829 Seer
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Why is it all you name-calling idiots are so confident in your assessment that others are totally stupid?

The US can/could NEVER pay off its debts (and while the hockey puck is really shaping up of late it didn't just start to do so during this adminstration's watch- do I need to remind folks again of the trifecta back in 1970/1971? - 1) USD drops all gold-backing (from then on it was only but a pretend world); 2) US oil porduction peaked (US to shortly become net importer and start accumulating trade deficits; 3) Trade relations with China starts.

Again, read history!

Party pussy shit needs to just fucking stop.

Thu, 05/15/2014 - 14:11 | 4763382 Dr. Engali
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What else would one expect from a community organizer whose goal is the demise of America? This is straight out of Saul Alinsky's rules for radicals. 


* RULE 8: “Keep the pressure on. Never let up.” Keep trying new things to keep the opposition off balance. As the opposition masters one approach, hit them from the flank with something new. (Attack, attack, attack from all sides, never giving the reeling organization a chance to rest, regroup, recover and re-strategize.)


If anybody believes this is all incompetence, they are nuttier than hell. I've never seen so much chaos in my life.

Thu, 05/15/2014 - 14:13 | 4763395 pods
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Was that Saul Alinsky or the speech from Rudy?


Thu, 05/15/2014 - 14:18 | 4763418 Dr. Engali
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There's another piece of shit who needs to be swinging from a bridge.

Thu, 05/15/2014 - 14:17 | 4763422 dontgoforit
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Yes, it's obvious.  Why don't some congress people impeach the bastard before it's too late.  Is impeachment something 'we the people' can initiate without crippled congress?

Thu, 05/15/2014 - 14:27 | 4763447 semperfi
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you are assuming congress is less corrupt than the kenyan - congress is just as big a pile of shit - and so is the supreme court - the whole fucking inside the beltway needs to be burned to the ground - along with The FED and the TBTJ banks

Thu, 05/15/2014 - 14:29 | 4763459 Dr. Engali
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The best thing that could happen to the world is a tactical nuke hitting D.C during the state of the union address.

Thu, 05/15/2014 - 15:57 | 4763802 Overfed
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Tactical nuke? How about at least 1 megaton? Only way to be sure.

Thu, 05/15/2014 - 14:31 | 4763463 Ms. Erable
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Because congress, TOTUS, and SCOTUS are all owned and controlled by the same organizations. Oragnizations that view competition as a sin.

Thu, 05/15/2014 - 19:12 | 4764518 lakecity55
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Over the last 200+ years, the Red Shield and their Goy Allies have taken over everything while WE were asleep at the switch.

Thu, 05/15/2014 - 20:52 | 4764840 Seer
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Party Pussy shit!

I heard enough of that crap when Bush was in office.  Yeah, impeach Bush and you get Dick Cheney.  Impeach Obama and you get Joe Biden.

WTF would any of this do?  Not a fucking thing other than distract people from what the REAL problems are.   But that's the tactic of Party Pussies is it not?

Thu, 05/15/2014 - 17:27 | 4764126 Mesquite
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...What else would one expect from...

Also check out: The Communist Manifesto...

Thu, 05/15/2014 - 19:14 | 4764526 lakecity55
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(Man finishes book, closes it)

"Well, Lord Red Shield, how did you like it?"
"It will do quite well, Karl. Thank Engels for me, too. Your contribution to The Tribe is...invaluable."

Thu, 05/15/2014 - 14:12 | 4763391 free_lunch
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EUROMANIA, new documentary (05/2014) , a must see!!!

A filmmaker on a search to uncover the European Union: does Europe provide jobs and democracy, or is it a big business project? A personal and revealing documentary from the creators of the 2012 hit Panopticon. EUROMANIA shows what is happening to people and countries all over Europe.

Watch now:

Thu, 05/15/2014 - 15:17 | 4763642 free_lunch
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Corporate Europe Observatory has just released a critical report on the record of the European Commission over the last five years. The report sums up the record of the outgoing Barroso II Commission and how it has interacted with big business lobby groups during its term.

The critique of the Commission in the report is damning. The Commission has pursued a corporate agenda, with little regard for other interests in society. Moreover, the Commission has fought tooth and nail to avoid effective regulation of lobbyists, including by opposing a mandatory register and avoiding serious reform of its advisory structure, with its so-called expert groups dominated by big business representatives in many areas.

Full article:

Thu, 05/15/2014 - 14:14 | 4763400 Kaiser Sousa
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just sell those fucking Treasury's...

that is all...

fuck talking.

Thu, 05/15/2014 - 14:15 | 4763408 Dr. Gonzo
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It seems like just yesterday Uncle Gorilla was dropping napalm on Vietmam... before we decided that maybe the communist "Asian Contagian" wasn't that big a deal and cutting and running after smashing and killing would be the honorable thing to do. Oh well. A million or so dead in that one followed by the abandonment of our gold standard. Mistakes happen. No biggie. No harm. No foul. 

Thu, 05/15/2014 - 14:16 | 4763411 Fix It Again Timmy
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The US is committing "Hari Kerry"...

Thu, 05/15/2014 - 14:16 | 4763416 Smiley
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The Philippines gave us the boot and we all know how Vietnam went down.  WE ARE NOT WANTED OVER THERE!  If we are not welcome or wanted, let them sort out their own bullshit and do business with whoever is left standing.

Thu, 05/15/2014 - 14:24 | 4763444 ObamaDepression
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We just signed a deal with the Philipines. What part did you miss?

Thu, 05/15/2014 - 14:38 | 4763486 Ms. Erable
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I think he's referring to the part you missed - the part about how the Philipines were controlled as a U.S. Territory after stealing them fair and square from Spain.

Thu, 05/15/2014 - 14:43 | 4763515 Big Corked Boots
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Remember the Maine!

Thu, 05/15/2014 - 14:58 | 4763583 Ms. Erable
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...because ships spontaneously explode when they have no internal damage, fully-functional and intact boilers and magazines, and haven't been fired upon?

Thu, 05/15/2014 - 15:10 | 4763622 caustixoid
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Wikipedia ignores all the protests of Filipinos against the base which contributed to the 'failure to reach a lease agreement'.

Thu, 05/15/2014 - 14:21 | 4763431 Canucklehead
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Look, Obama is a nobody. What is happening now is something Cheney & Rove would do.  Cheney & Rove are frontmen too.  Who is calling the shots? Go read Martin Armstong and/or Daniel Hopsicker.

China & Russia are slowly understanding that to pick a fight with the straw man simply open's your flank for an attack.

Thu, 05/15/2014 - 14:25 | 4763436 ATG
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What do you do when the whole world tells you you're wrong?

Thu, 05/15/2014 - 14:25 | 4763446 litemine
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When War does happen, let the Politicians and Bankers have their Children/Grandchildren spearhead the charge, and I don't mean be the leader just get out and take their turn at Point.  I will not let any family member die for Oil.

Thu, 05/15/2014 - 14:31 | 4763464 youngman
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Why doesnt China drop a few hundred billion of treasuries on us.....I can never figure that one out...prices are up...they should have a good profit in you can become our enemy and still buy our crap amazes me..

Thu, 05/15/2014 - 14:52 | 4763556 ebear
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Who would buy them?   And supposing they found a buyer, what would they do with the money?   They'd just be exchanging one debt that pays interest for another that doesn't.

To see any value in the transaction you'd have to buy hard assets with the proceeds, but that's a lot of money to spend all at once which would drive the price of whatever they bought (oil for example) much higher.

Better to tip-toe quietly out the back door, which I believe is what they and Russia are already doing.

Putin pointed this out a while back: everything is connected.  Move one piece and it affects all the others.   That's Globalism, AKA  Mexican standoff.

Thu, 05/15/2014 - 21:52 | 4765009 Seer
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Well put.

I think that the "leaders" of the three countries might realize that declaring "war" would be the best way to write things off and present shutdoors to keep a bunch of folks (big business?) from trying to keep the losing game going on any longer.  This is all going to end anyway.  I don't believe that "war" will end up involving actual bombs and bullets: TPTB across the globe don't want that as everywhere would be a target.  And when wars are declared there's the rally-around-the-flag thing (internal oppression ramp-ups are "good").

Thu, 05/15/2014 - 14:32 | 4763466 overexposed
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As if we needed more proof that Nobel Peace Prize winners are, on the whole, blithering idiots...

(Not to mention Haaaahvard Grads!)

Thu, 05/15/2014 - 21:54 | 4765015 Seer
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And you would do what (other than sit behind a keyboard and call names and such)?

Thu, 05/15/2014 - 14:33 | 4763469 Solomon the KING
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we just cant keep our mouth shut, thats the BIG prob.

Thu, 05/15/2014 - 14:37 | 4763484 Polymarkos
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The Warfare-Welfare State MUST be maintained!

Thu, 05/15/2014 - 14:39 | 4763494 CoastalCowboy
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The Chinese are nothing but racists for criticizing he who is so far ahead of us intellectually that his omniscience cannot be contemplated by we mortals. His intellect is only surpassed by the Creator of the Universe and not by very much. At least that's what MSNBC has told me in certain words on more than one occasion.

GO TOTUS!!! DESTROY, DESTROY, DESTROY the entire World with the mighty fleet of drones at your command Dear TOTUS.

That's about all he's really good at doing anyway as that's what his sting pullers have simply ordered him to do.

Thu, 05/15/2014 - 21:56 | 4765017 Seer
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"At least that's what MSNBC has told me in certain words on more than one occasion."

Seems your judgement might be impaired if you're watching MSNBC.  Really, too much free time or what?

Thu, 05/15/2014 - 14:44 | 4763519 curbyourrisk
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What do I hear from China?


blah blah blah....wonk wonk wonk

Thu, 05/15/2014 - 14:45 | 4763523 Mi Naem
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People here like to point fingers at the US for causing trouble globally, and there's plenty of reason for it. 

But really, all the world's major powers are cruisin for a bruisin.  And it will almost certainly happen within a few years, IMO. 

It's the best way to consolidate global political and economic power in an international institution in the name of peace.  Besides, I think our landlords believe that it's just about time to thin the herd. 

So, to be cynical, go long Northrop, Lockheed, BAE, General Dynamics, Raytheon, MotherFokkers ....?

Thu, 05/15/2014 - 21:59 | 4765025 Seer
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It's out of the System's hands of control.  This is all now in Mother Nature's hands.

TPTB may circle the wagons, but that doesn't mean that their sphere of influence will be like all the selected puppets' ability to control an entire country when they're lucky to keep in control of a single city.

Even the "defense" contractors' futures are a bit questionable (yea!).  I don't think that they'll take EBT, which is all that's pretty much left.

Thu, 05/15/2014 - 14:45 | 4763524 Hannibal
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Break the silence: world war is beckoning
By John Pilger

'Why do we tolerate the threat of another world war in our name? Why do we allow lies that justify this risk? The scale of our indoctrination, wrote Harold Pinter, is a "brilliant, even witty, highly successful act of hypnosis", as if the truth "never happened even while it was happening"

"Every year the American historian William Blum publishes his "updated summary of the record of US foreign policy" which shows that, since 1945, the US has tried to overthrow more than 50 governments, many democratically elected; grossly interfered in elections in 30 countries; bombed the civilian populations of 30 countries; used chemical and biological weapons; and attempted to assassinate foreign leaders.

In many cases Britain has been a collaborator. The degree of human suffering, let alone criminality, is little acknowledged in the West, despite the......"


Thu, 05/15/2014 - 22:06 | 4765047 Seer
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But, John, don't you think that it's worth it?*

* His Killing The Children of Iraq documentary was one of the key bits that opened my eyes.  My opening sentence is sarcasm based on the most telling quote about the entire Iraq sanctions crap: Madelene Albright's answer to Lesley Stahl's question whether Albright thought that the death of 500,000 Iraqi children due to the US-backed sanctions on Iraq was worth it (  I really want there to be a special place in Hell for people like Albright.

John's a good guy.

Thu, 05/15/2014 - 14:45 | 4763525 williambanzai7
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When you visit Hanoi a few things you will notice are how much everyone prefers US Dollars, how the young are thoroughly inculcated by American consumerism and how insulting the National War Museum is to American Vets.

Now that is ok, they can rub it in and we deserve it.

And they can also bow to their masters, the Chinese.

Thu, 05/15/2014 - 15:05 | 4763603 williambanzai7
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And I wonder if Kerry, McCain and the Neocon Chicken Hawks have seen that museum.

Not only is it a humiliation, it is gut wrenching to see what was brought upon the innocents by macho Super Power dick swinging like we are now seeing once again.

Thu, 05/15/2014 - 15:12 | 4763631 Dr. Engali
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I wish I understood the sycophants in power, but maybe I'm better off that I don't.

Thu, 05/15/2014 - 16:54 | 4764026 Jethro
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Well, they seem to telegraph their punches.  Probably out of sheer hubris.

Early in Obama's 1st presidency he was photographed carrying a copy of "The Post American World", sort of a harbinger of things to come.

The bank action against Cyprus, Greece, Poland, Hungary, Argentina.  Lots of options to choose from here.

Ukranian troops using UN vehicles to supress Russian seperatists in eastern Ukraine. 

NDAA, increasing militariazation of local police, DHS, large ammo purchases for fed govt agencies that don't warrant it, etc, etc.

Thu, 05/15/2014 - 22:11 | 4765067 Seer
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And the Bushes?  H.W.'s "New World Order?"  G.W.'s allegence to PNAC (and to Israel)?  And in the middle was Clinton to sing and dance and distract while bubbles blew (there's a Lewinsky joke in there somewhere).  And back and back and back we could go; a good stop back in history being Nixon's destruction of the USD; the war in Cambodia (not to mention keeping Vietnam running); and the opening of trade relations with China.

We're being stair-stepped.  Stop focusing on a single stair.

Thu, 05/15/2014 - 15:07 | 4763611 Manipuflation
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Great point William.  I would like to advise, however, that you are using too big of words and terms.  "Free shit" is what most Mericans understand.  Bond markets?  HAHAHHAHAHAHA!  What the hell are those supposed to be anymore?  Used to be that the first thing I did in the morning was to get up and check on the bond markets because there might be a steal of a deal in there.  Aww...shit there aren't any deals.  It is all a rip off scam.

Then I figured out that I should be the one issuing the bonds based on the full faith and credit of my screen name.  The underlying asset would be gold and silver but I would never cough that up.  I would just print out some paper and hand you a slip.

Bless you Banzai7. 

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