US Officially "Takes No Position" On China's Provocative Actions In Disputed Waters

Tyler Durden's picture

In a somewhat stunningly hypocritical step for a nation that seems so hell-bent on proclaiming Russia's provactive actions as tantamount to World War over Ukraine, the White House has issued a statement "taking no position" on China's "disputes" in the China Seas...


So - the Chinese undertook "provacative actions" into the "disputed territory" of another sovereign (allied) nation... and the US retaliates with no sanctions, no damnation, no hellfire? Good to know who your friends are...


As Bloomberg reports,

Biden, in meeting with China Army Chief of General Staff Fang Fenghui, says “no nation should take provocative steps to advance claims over disputed areas in a manner that undermines peace and stability in the region,” according to White House statement.


Underscores U.S.’s “serious concern about China’s unilateral actions” near Paracel Islands


Biden, Fang met at White House

This comes after earlier new from China...

A top Chinese general on Thursday defended the deployment of an oil rig that has inflamed tensions in the disputed South China Sea and triggered deadly protests in Vietnam, blaming Hanoi and saying China cannot afford to "lose an inch" of territory.


General Fang Fenghui also pointed blame at U.S. President Barack Obama's strategic "pivot" to Asia as Vietnam and China grapple with one of the worst breakdowns in relations since the neighbors fought a brief border war in 1979.




A U.S. official said Vice President Joe Biden told the visiting Chinese army chief that Beijing's actions in the maritime disputes were "dangerous and provocative.


Standing at the Pentagon alongside the top U.S. military officer, General Martin Dempsey, Fang said Vietnam was at fault for stirring up trouble by dispatching ships in an attempt to "disrupt" Chinese drilling activity.


"I think it's quite clear ... who is conducting normal activity and who is disrupting it," Fang said, speaking through an interpreter.




Speaking about regional tensions, Fang said Beijing did not create trouble, but was also unafraid of it and suggested China was ready to defend its territorial integrity.


"Territory which has passed down by our ancestors into the hands of our generation - we cannot afford to lose an inch," he said.

Which appears to be Chinese for "from my cold dead hands"

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Grande Tetons's picture

Hmmm....maybe China is competing with Brussels as one of the secret buyers of USTs. 

insanelysane's picture

Biden's family will end up on the board of Alibaba.

Grande Tetons's picture

....that is probably the more logical explanation.  No sarc. 

zaphod's picture

Maybe the US's new strategy is to back off from being the global police in Asia, just enough to encourage China to overstep boundaries, purely to provide an excuse to start a major war to protect everyone else from Vietnam to Japan. The military indstrial complex needs a new conflict to keep growing, and soon. 

max2205's picture

Joe really doesn't want china dumping T Bonds to Belgium like the russkies

So What's picture

The next action will be very telling for the Asians, Japan, Taiwan, Phillipine, who should be watching very closely. If the Chinese starts to rev up their aggressiveness that means that the US and China have made a deal, and no assistance is coming to Vietnam. If history serves, Vietnam will not back down, so there will be war. On the other hand, if China backs down, then the US just told the Chinese to fuck off or the US will destroy China using Vietnam. Anyhow, I got the feeling that the US is playing both sides.
The other countries will watch closely to see if they're also being played.

On another note, the US has fallen so far that the Chinese can tell Obama "fuck you" and still get invited to the White House for one on one with VP. If that had happened in the old days, they would have been bitch-slap.

Whatever happens, pray for free Tibet. Those "shit eater" Chinese will not have mercy for anyone.

Mistress Raindrop's picture

What can America do?  There's like a billion of them little devils.  Let a militarized Japan take on the problem.  Bitches.

old naughty's picture

"calm down (also known as FU), Philippines."

RevRex's picture

Obama has gay penis to suck and golf to play....he can't be bothered with trivialities...when he has important stuff to do...,

Joe Sixpack's picture



Like invading it, or bombing it, you know. All the stuff we never do.

QQQBall's picture

Did Afghanistan move to European continent?

NoDebt's picture

Biden's family will end up turning on a spit over a low fire, hopefully.  As they cook they'll keep asking "You're going to pay me for that charcoal, right?"

I live close to Delaware and everyone knows what that family is about.  Biden having less than $200 in charitable contributions is no fluke.  He and his whole family are just that cheap.  They CHARGE RENT to the Secret Service to stay in his carriage house/guest house.  Guys who are there to take a bullet for the guy, if need be, and he charges them FULL MARKET VALUE RENT to stay in one of the buildings on his property.  He is such a complete fucking asshole you find yourself wishing it was him who got killed in that car accident in 1972 instead of his first wife and yound daughter.

Berspankme's picture

Car wreck is too good for this asshole. Public stoning is better

Grande Tetons's picture

The ghost of Elizabeth Edwards calls shotgun....for her spouse. 

Dr. Venkman's picture

The Biden-loathing warms my heart.

QQQBall's picture

Fang... you cannot make this shit up

NoDebt's picture

Note to the rest of the world:  In case you haven't quite figured it out yet, or you've been on an acid trip the last few years, the LAST thing you want to be is a minor ally of the United States.  You are WAY better off taking up with the other side, whoever that might be in your corner of the world.  However bad they fuck you over it won't be half as bad as relying on our promises to you.

We are the Amityville Horror of nations.  There's blood oozing from the walls and the house is screaming "get out!" at you.  We'd recommend bailing out.  You won't like what happens if you stick around.

Squid-puppets a-go-go's picture

yer, note to China, though

ask saddam hussein how it worked out last time the US (April Glaspie) said it has no problem with a territorial takeover

oh wait.... cant ask him anymore

Mr. Pickles's picture

Damn, you brought back bitter memories for me, my friend. My young and dumb ass joined up quickly to liberate Kuwait. No way was I going to stand by and watch a tyrant enslave others, not if I had anything to do with it. Two combat tours later, I find out the cocksucker asked for permission. That was an eye-opener for me, let me tell you. Got the fuck out of the Army, and been on strike ever since. 25 years later I am a dumpster gourmand and living in a cardboard box, but at least I'm free and no longer a pawn to sociopaths. Integrity is priceless. 

prains's picture


You are free, the matrix no longer owns matter what happens you've seen your way through the bullshit and made the choice of FREE man. Now you need to free your brothers!! before they kill or die for the status quo

aVileRat's picture

It's going to get good when the 1776 isolationists get their wet dream & doha is broken via backdoor subsidies for Chinese NOC's. We will see later this month in Singapore just what exactly Putin is willing to give up for his Ruble-RNB cross. A weak Russia is necessary for China to pull ahead, hell: Tom Clancy's friends called this 12 years ago in the bear & the dragon.

Of course it really will not matter until the sacred cow of the technocrats, software tech is wholesale pirated & stolen for national projects. Without that pancreas of stock market multiples & productivity gains, the US never would have pulled ahead of the analog USSR.

Imagine what happened in 1979 when regional dictators believed they could nationalize the 7 sisters fields and pump their way to dynastic godhood. Now imagine that with every nation having their own private google and oracle. Unlike natural resource (physical assets), when the code leaks into the wild it becomes worthless feedstock. It would really suck if Lenovo or another corporate, say Bidau were given a stealth blessing to simply nationalize all the automation machines (and their computer code) in Dailan free trade zone. 180 years of American superiority eclipsed in 1 day. Everything from Titanium metallurgy to Google+ predictive adverts now free for everyone, and being produced at the $4/hour slave wage enjoyed by many Russian & Chinese sweatshops.


If the thought of every kid (not just those Annon.) with a C# engine and Heartbleed scared the world, imagine having the power to corrupt Google or Oracle arrays with a stack injection. Still not aroused to stack more gold ? Think about how many people in the world are "long tech". How much wealth is in the electronic banking system, and ask the Chief Tech Officer of JP Morgan sometime when they do hard backups of accounts (on paper). What do they use to check the data integrity of those records.  The threat matrix rapidly scales well beyond "threat to national security" and walks right into a bad James Bond movie, ironically.

What will happen to tech's lucrative margins when anyone and their 10 year old kid can bootleg without fear everything from Microsoft Office to Raytheon LDAR controllers ? I am going to gamble take a rough approximation of the proliferation of the  AK-47. Scale that for rare metal supply and energy constraints.

If the US walks from Vietnam, expect Japan to break ranks with a push towards doubling down QE, with Treasury sales pressing forward the rebuilding of the Japanese army to fight China head on (and employ all those angry Gen X,y,z otaku's). Now let us speculate how the MENA will do: do you really think without a backstop Israel, Saudi Arabia or the "core" are going to let Russia arm Iran/Syra to 4.5th gen technology ? Hell no.

Now let's think about what the latin america's will do: want to take a wild bet on how Venezuela & Argentina will deflect attention from their structural entitlements ? Peru & Colombia.

Now lets circle back to dear old Ukraine. What is the next "natural" defense between the Donets plains and Europe proper ? Let's go back to WW II. I'll give you the answer: the Romanian steppes. Germany is the new France (1915), and they damn well know it.

At this point in the game, there is a strong liklihood in 60 years we may be looking at a purely Rutherian/Han dominated oligarchy. Neither society's elite are really known for supporting racial minorities, freedom of speech or philanthropy.

It is a long, long. Long. fall down to the Jackals. Don't think a bunch of gold bars will save you, it did not do much for the Jews in Poland, the Han in 1400 or the Romans in 400 AD.

Last time I'll post on the topic until 2016. A dry martini cheers to you Mr No Debt.



aVileRat's picture

Nope. Its a bit of bad wit.

What does the gland do for toxic excess/waste removal. 

SilverRhino's picture

If the US walks from Vietnam .... 

>> Seriously?  You do realize that Vietnam is NOT the USA's ally in any way shape or form.

Fuck the Vietnamese communists.

Snidley Whipsnae's picture


"Titanium metallurgy" was developed by the Russians... actually, the CCCP or Soviet Union.

When Kelly Johnson needed titanium to build the SR 71 a couple of front companies were set up to buy the metal from the CCCP. The Skunk Works could not buy directly from CCCP for obvious reasons.

I believe the smart, and wealthy, Jews in Poland got out early. The elite of the Han and Rome probably did likewise. If not, they were either not smart and/or wealthy enough.

Small quibbles about an otherwise good post. 

BrosephStiglitz's picture

What about a major ally?  Europe looks set to become the showdown for WW3.  Sandwiched between Russia and the US, things look like they may indeed get ugly.

Best case scenario, we nurture ties to Russia on the sly and eventually get extorted via their natural gas monopoly and people go ballistic.  Worst case scenario Russian and American boots will be trampling across European soil in a vicious proxy war. 

True to form, the average citizen is more worried about brown-skinned people taking their jobs and/or loss of sovereignty to the European Parliament.  The thought of a neighborhood propaganda chief blaring in a foreign accent on a loudspeaker from a wall of APCs hasn't even crossed their mind.

When Draghi said people underestimate the political capital invested behind the EU, he wasn't kidding. We are in a do, or die situation: Russia is just chomping at the bit to fragment the Union so it can enforce its monopolistic pricing on individual regions with significantly lower bargaining power. 

It's just sad that the global trend seems to be toward more bureaucracy and centralization.   

Yen Cross's picture

   MAN!  I'm running low on red " Magic" markers...

thatthingcanfly's picture

I wanna be General Fang. Can I be General Fang?

NoDebt's picture

Mmmm.... yes.  Yes, you can be General Fang.  You have the outfit, right?  If not, drop me a PM and I'll let you borrow mine.

thatthingcanfly's picture

The right outfit... mmm.... that's the one with that's all black with the red cobra on the front, right? And I get to say, "Cobra-la-la-la-la-la-la" all the time, right?

Eyeroller's picture

Maybe Plugs has a Chinese love-child as CEO of something over there...

dutchTender's picture

i wonder what gift general fang brought for bidden ??? its chinese tradtion to give western leaders gifts that seemed like friendly gesture but carried deragotory insults in meaning in chinese

Snidley Whipsnae's picture

"a brain"

the label on the jar said 'Abby normal'...

nmewn's picture

Now however, if someone proposed to make Amtrak a viable unsubsidized going concern...why, Biden would go completely beserk on twitter and start WWIII ;-)

kurt's picture

A page was taken from the Rootin', Tootin', Putin Playbook!

Well done for a change





good boy state department, now please get yourself out of the other messes.

kchrisc's picture

Dear China,

Please do not: (Select one)

a) Take those islands.

b) Sell our bonds and trash the Petro$.

Thank you,

Secretary of the House of Cards and Hypocrisy

Xibalba's picture

His son already has a job.

DIgnified's picture

Watching the US self-destruct like this diplomatically; at such a staggeringly fast-pace.  Amazing.  It's almost like they (our government) want us to fail and be seen as assholes. 

Raging Debate's picture

Dignified - There is a lot of Kubaki Theatre to mask the transfer of power to China as reserve currency peg. China is now beginning to do the job of global cop as the USA before it. That is because the peg nation becomes reaponsible for global security. Viewed in this light, how a just recent reserve currency transfers power, blame shifting propoganda and Kubaki Theater starts making sense. Not that I endorse it but human nature is what it is and mankinds progress certainly does not go in a straight line.

It is liberating to know the truth in how the world works. The truth may indeed set one free but it takes a good long while to accept it and behave accordingly. My intent is loss mitigation in attempting to educate.

A lot of people here at ZH are still fooled by the West bad East great memo. I don't waste much time commenting on how "inept" American leadership appears to be like wasting time on Obama or Bush.

One of the commentators talked about buying titanium from the Soviets while we were supposedly enemies. Others know about military tech cooperation during the Vietnam war. Or consider why Russia is giving until 2020 to abandon the space station. Or why Russian Times is allowed to so freely operate in whatever manner it wishes.

I am critical of leadership such as not rebalancing trade with China back in 2004 for the American people. That is pure greed. Or cross-pollination of boards, financial fraud or currency devaluation to mask for prior fuck ups which is highly inflationary and may cause revolution (bad for everybody).
I am learning these days to pick my battles a bit more selectively, time is one commodity that can't be bought. Living in fear daily is not a lifestyle I choose to submit to. Hedging is important but so is enjoying the time we have here on earth. I am highly confident we don't come back.

buzzsaw99's picture

fuck the vietnam [/nuland]

Mr. Pickles's picture

US strokes China's sack in order to get leverage on Russia. China is the game changer here, they will decide what happens in Ukraine.

Spastica Rex's picture

I call BS.

That was a scene from Peter Jackson's The Fellowship of the RIng.

Unknown Poster's picture

Shortly, Biden will be back to playing tiddly-winks in the basement.

Flounder's picture

Sending troops to Vietnam to fight the Chinese hasn't worked.  How about we send troops to China to fight the Vietnamese this time.  Fubar.

Snidley Whipsnae's picture


It doesn't matter if it works or not cause the defense contractors still make money.

Have you noticed that the wars get longer and longer?

The goddamned 100 years war would be a wet dream for the contractors!