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"Feeding The Homeless" Is A Crime In Increasingly More US Cities
Submitted by Michael Snyder of The Economic Collapse blog,
Have you ever given food to a homeless person? Well, if you do it again in the future it might be a criminal act depending on where you live. Right now, there are dozens of major U.S. cities that have already passed laws against feeding the homeless. As you will read about below, in some areas of the country you can actually be fined hundreds of dollars for just trying to give food to a hungry person. I know that sounds absolutely insane, but this is what America is turning into. Communities all over the country are attempting to "clean up the streets" by making it virtually illegal to either be homeless or to help those that are homeless. Instead of spending more money on programs to assist the homeless, local governments are bulldozing tent cities and giving homeless people one way bus tickets out of town. We are treating some of the most vulnerable members of our society like human garbage, and it is a national disgrace.
What does it say about our country when we can't even give a warm sandwich to a desperately hungry person that is sleeping on the streets? A retired couple down in Florida named Debbie and Chico Jimenez wanted to do something positive for their community during their retirement years, so they started feeding the homeless in Daytona Beach. But recently the police decided to crack down on their feeding program and slapped everyone involved with a $373 fine...
For the past year, the Jimenezes have set up shop every Wednesday on Manatee Island in Daytona Beach, Fla., where they feed hot dogs, chicken, pasta salad and other BBQ staples to about 100 homeless people, WFTV reported. Handing out meals is just one aspect of the ministry the two founded, Spreading the Word Without Saying a Word, to help people living in poverty.
But on Wednesday, the Jimenezes said that without warning, they and four other volunteers were accosted by police, fined and told that they could be thrown in jail if they continue their program, according to NBC News.
Each of the six was fined $373 and were given 10 days to either pay up or go to court.
"We’re going to court," Debbie Jimenez, 52, a former auto parts store manager, told NBC News. "The police don’t like it. But how can we turn our backs on the hungry? We can’t."
Don't the police down in Daytona Beach have something better to do with their time?
Sadly, more than 50 major cities have passed laws against feeding the homeless at this point. It appears that "cleaning up the streets" has become a big point of emphasis all over the nation.
And what the city of Camden, New Jersey just did is even worse than what happened in Daytona Beach.
Camden just bulldozed an entire tent city and dumped all of the belongings of the homeless people living there into the trash...
Hazmat teams showed up at the camps in the early morning to search for syringes. A drug-sniffing dog followed a police officer around the area. And bulldozers tossed trash and discarded belongings into dumpsters before razing the premises.
Over the past few weeks, flyers had warned people in the tent cities that this was going to happen. Yet it still seemed surreal to many of them that their communities were about to be demolished for good.
But for most of the people that were living in that tent city, there is no place else for them to go. The homeless shelters in the area are at max capacity, and so many of them will end up sleeping in the streets without any shelter at all...
Aaron Howe, the "mayor" of a tent city that had 12 tents the night before eviction day, said he had called every shelter in town and not a single place had room for him and his girlfriend.
"There's no available spots, and the city is saying if we pitch a tent somewhere else they're gonna rip it down," he said. "It's not gonna look good when there's a bunch of homeless on the streets."
Camden has got to be one of the most mismanaged communities in the entire country. Why is Camden spending time and money bulldozing homeless communities when it has so many other problems? For much more on the nightmare that Camden has become, please see my previous article entitled "Camden, New Jersey: One Of Hundreds Of U.S. Cities That Are Turning Into Rotting, Decaying Hellholes".
Other big cities that are a little bit more "progressive" are attempting to get rid of their homeless populations by giving them one way tickets out of town. Some of the major cities that are doing this include San Diego and San Francisco...
When her Greyhound bus pulled into town 6 months ago, Maria Castillo got off with two bags and dream.
"Start over, start a new life," said the 42-year-old.
Castillo had been homeless in San Diego when a social worker offered her a one-way bus ticket to Portland.
"They said come here because all the opportunities in Portland, Oregon," she said.
But Castillo said life isn't much better in her new town. She's still homeless. A Unit 8 investigation found several cities from San Diego to San Francisco are providing one-way bus tickets to the homeless.
As shocking as everything that you just read is, what one lawmaker out in Hawaii is doing tops it all. In a previous article, I described how a state representative named Tom Brower has actually been using a sledgehammer to destroy shopping carts used by homeless people. Just check out the following short excerpt from an RT article that was published a few months ago...
In the past two weeks residents in Hawaii noticed what appeared to be a crazed individual carrying a sledgehammer through the streets of Honolulu, a state lawmaker looking to rid the city of homeless people by targeting their belongings.
State Representative Tom Brower (D) is currently dedicated to dealing out his own personal brand of “justice” by seeking out homeless people and destroying their possessions. Brower estimates that he has used the sledgehammer to smash at least 30 shopping carts, rendering them useless by bashing in the front wheels.
“I got tired of telling people I’m trying to pass laws. I want to do something practical that will really clean up the streets,” he told Hawaii News Now. “I find abandoned junk, specifically shopping carts, and I remove them.”
Is this how our society is going to treat those that are down on their luck from now on?
Where is the love?
Where is the compassion?
Why can't we seem to be able to take care of these people?
The federal government sure seems to have plenty of money to waste on other things. For example, it is being reported that workers at an Obamacare processing facility in Missouri are being paid to do nothing but stare at their computers...
Employees at an ObamaCare processing center in Missouri with a contract worth $1.2 billion are reportedly getting paid to do nothing but sit at their computers.
"Their goals are set to process two applications per month and some people are not even able to do that," a whistleblower told KMOV-TV, referring to employees hired to process paper applications for ObamaCare enrollees.
The facility in Wentzville is operated by Serco, a company owned by a British firm that was awarded $1.2 billion in part to hire 1,500 workers to handle paper applications for coverage under the law, according to The Washington Post.
The whistleblower employee told the station that weeks can pass without data entry workers receiving even a single application to process. Employees reportedly spend their days staring at their computers, according to a KMOX-TV report.
So we have millions upon millions of dollars to waste on that, but we can't take care of our homeless population?
And without a doubt, the need to help the homeless is greater than it ever has been before. Right now, there are 1.2 million public school students in America that are homeless. That number is an all-time record, and it has grown by 72 percent since the start of the last recession.
In addition, there are 49 million Americans that are dealing with food insecurity. Even in the midst of this so-called "economic recovery", poverty is absolutely exploding.
And it is going to get a whole lot worse.
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Apparently we could house the homeless just by eliminating Obamacare.
Or by making the Military Industrial Complex find the half trillion a year that they steal, lose or cannot account for.
Well, that goes for sure, but since the article mentions the 1.2 billion dollar contract to have Obamacare "staff" watch their computer screens and jerk off, my comment was a bit more on point.
but what would the SEC do if they couldn't jerk off while watching the Obamacare contractors jerking off? Work? Do their fucking job? Stop dreaming and go back to sleep. no, wait, nevermind. No wait; now i got it; stop dreaming YOUR dream and go back to gov't sleep. Phew, I knew I had a point in there somewhere.
Let them live in all the unsold cars. Two problems solved.
Cars dont have toilets.
Plenty of homeless people break into parked cars, kip for a few hours, take any change they find and leave a smelly deposit. If they get busted then they get 3 hots and a cot for a few days. They couldn't care less if they get (another) conviction.
They'll have a headstart on pasty office wallahs when the worm turns.
Bullshit, no govt can govern life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. from what i've personally experienced, one can't be happy and hungry. and the trash that would try to convict another human for charity is a cowardly, shit eating, heartless, devilish mother fucker. and the pigs on the beat that would dutifully fullfil this farce are sub human mongrels. the best part of them ran down their whore of a mother's leg
"Bullshit, no govt can govern life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness."
You are wrong sir.
Cuba, the USSR, North Korea, East Germany, the Plymouth Colony, "Iron Curtain" eastern Europe, Argentina, Argentina, Argentina, Argentina, the Virginia Colony of the 1600s, most nations in Africa, Mao China, Khmer Rouge Cambodia...
No wait, I guess you aren't. My bad.
If I hear 'land of the free' one more time I think I'll puke.
During the singing of "DC US Uber Alles," also called the National Anthem, I don't stand and if standing I turn around.
When confronted by one of the sheeple, which is inevitable, I always comment that the "land of the free, home of the brave" part is a blatant lie and that I cannot countenance paying homage to such a thing. I like to use big words at first to throw them off balance.
What usually follows is them trying to shame or guilt me into acquiescing to their view, while I calmly point out things like NDAA ("What's that?"), Guantanamo Bay, undeclared wars, spying, gun and badge thugs stealing and killing on the streets, etc. I also quickly highlight what is happening, why and what is going to happen to the American people and the DC US in the future.
What they don't know is that I deliberately did not stand or turned around to provoke this very public discussion for their, and more importantly, those around us' benefit.
I always close with, "Thanks for the information, I will need to look into those things that you have mentioned, I sure hope that you will as well, especially NDAA."
I call it shitting between their ears, as I know that as things get worse, my words will be fermenting in several people's heads. Hopefully some of them will awake before it is too late for them.
People don't like hearing a truth that questions their beliefs. It is the same in the US as it is everywhere else.
Just say 50% in taxes and leave it at that. No one can argue that point.
Fucking disgraceful.
So much for the "Christianity" fairytale that permeates every aspect of American culture ? Are the cops going to roll up to the weekly Sunday morning gatherings of the masses and dish out fines to everyone that puts some money in the hat for the poor ? Conspiracy to commit 'feeding the poor' should look good on a charge sheet.
I guess that lie was long ago accepted and everyone knows it goes straight to the pastor's hookers and Porsche payment so with any luck the authorities will look the other way.
You can't make this shit up.
There is no place where it is illegal to feed a homeless person. If you want to give food to a hungry person on the street that's fine. If you want to open up a shelter or mission and feed people on your own property, that's fine.
The laws Snyder is writing about prohibit using a public space (like a park or sidewalk) to conduct a mass feeding of homeless people. Very, very different. This is about protecting people who want to use that public space for its intended purpose.
People who want to use that public space for its intended purpose? So the homeless are not even people in your eyes?
Parks and sidewalks are not supposed to be restaurants or kitchens.
"There is no place where it is illegal to feed a homeless person."
Is that a slow motion flag behind that eagle of yours?
Why do you get to decide what is the intended purpose of the space. It's public space, the public needs feeding, then let's take care of them using our socialist public spaces. You are using the logic of slave.
No, he wants the slaves to accept his logic. "Public" space is for him to determine the use of... I wonder who he thinks he is...
http://www.nationalhomeless.org/publications/crimreport/introduction.html
It seems there are lots of laws.
As for your "public spaces" argument, there are many instances where public access is controlled and denied: a presidential visit, a parade, a protest, etc. The idea of public spaces is they are common to all- not the property of the State to be used according to their dictates.
I've enjoyed each of your posts on this thread sir. Thank you.
What Uncle (both the big one and his little minions nationwide) might consider is borrowing from the idea of "free speech zones" and establish "feed the hungry zones"! Maybe even make it like a petting zoo and tax the visitors!
Central planners would probably set it up 20 miles from the city center though :( No way for the intended recipients to access it, but some well-greased palms decided it's the best place for a government contractor to build a gazillion dollar fence (consisting of $1000 worth of hardware). Then as it goes fallow, pay someone to mow the lawn (year round even in dead winter at 10 below), and later raze it and sell it for pennies on the dollar to another palm greaser.
Too fucking cynical, but how the fuck can one not be after reading this bullshit?? I used to skoff at the guy holding a sign "The End Is Near" but now I'd say, "Yeah, you're about right".
Your welcome. There are many people whom post which I enjoy immensely and which, quite frankly, give me hope. Probably why so many return.
yeah, "public spaces" are definitely NOT for public use except by the sterile, metro-progressive, law-abiding "if you see something, say something" type of public.
"Hungry children must be kept on a leash."
When half of America is homeless I think the best way to preserve the illusion of prosperity is euthenasia. Also they could manufacture soylent green for the foodstamp program and kill two birds with one stone.
Patrick Bateman had that idea.
California Chrome .... super cool to the Preakness homeless
Hey Fonz. I doubled down on the usd/jpy long. Some call me retraded> retreaded< retarded
In any case I also shorted the Australian $ because the 2year Swiss and German notes were bleeding basis points.
What shall we do?
Crucify him!
"... We are treating some of the most vulnerable members of our society like human garbage, and it is a national disgrace..."
it is more than a national disgrace - it is satanic. i will rejoice when god wipes this wicked nation off the face of the earth!! its people are satan worshipping demonic wicked foul shits.
i will never refuse to help the homeless, hungry, and helpless.
good for you. will we see you at the soup kitchen or do you give at the office?
You actually propose we let him choose for himself?
You can give 'homeless' dogs and cats food (pet food is a billion dollar industry) but you cant feed a homeless human being?!
I sure some crafty law maker (perhaps in Hawaii) is thinking of passing a law that will make 'converting the homeless into pet-food' legal.
US is becomig Brazil North, get used to it - like the man says "You can't have a Frist World nation with a 3rd World population".
Gee, what does Camden, Detroit, Memphis, Chicago, Oakland, ete, etc have in common that leads to this situation, let's see, accoridning to Glen Beck its "rassis Democrats".
Dont feed the homeless you will just encourage them like racoons..............
Well, the slaves of the lords are not behaving ...they must be punished.
If you receive charity from government you are more inclined to support and vote for government, but if they figure out you don't vote, or worse still, vote for a conservative, you are certainly disposable. Private charities do nothing to enhance dependency on the state, and government surely doesn't want people relying upon God, of all things. That would never do. Government sees themselves as proof that the hearts of men are wicked, requiring them and only them, to step in and provide where so many have failed. They are the higher power and they see their task as building heaven here on earth. Utopia.
John C Calhoun pretty much said the same for an enfranchised welfare population, they always vote more bennies to themselves and they quickly become the majority.
Rmember the goofs in charge will fight reality till the better end to protect their corupt ways! It is only when the majority of the people wake up that the goofs will run far and hard!
Maybe the gov officials should take the bus ticket out of town.
DC seems like the best place to house the homeless, there's the capital building the whitehouse and so many more large government buildings otherwise not in use.......... although to be fair all the bullshit would have to be cleared out first..........
Hey, that black family got the government-funded housing. Job done. So go back to worshipping sports stars, being debt slaves and eating the crud we give ya!
When laws become the acts of criminals, everyone is free to do what they want. Just have to know your limitations.
the only way for the starving to learn how not to starve is to starve. if they die in the process then they didn't learn in time. giving them .gov money or feeding them without reciprocation just encourages more people to join the easy homeless life. fresh air is still free. tough love is tough. that's why they call it tough love. tough shit, tough love.
A Christmas Carol is not one of your favourites then.
Brilliant! Indoctrinate them, addlepate them, herd them into urban centers, cut them off from any sense of or knowledge of self-reliance, and then.....? Give them the boot and say, "Now, you're on your own. Sorry for your luck if you don't survive."
That's not tough love. That's fucking diabolical, and either you haven't thought it through or you are a fucking cunt. Mazel!
It is estimated that 40% of the homeless have jobs. Consequently, we can postulate that being homeless may have more to do with the quality of the opportunities that are available and the cost of basic necessities. As the Elites have their opportunities enhanced and protected by the State, we can question whether the State is designed to benefit the few at the expense of the greater majority.
Why are not all people afforded the same protected status? Perhaps the Elites need some "tough love"? While some would suggest rope and guillotines, I would be willing to see the abolishment of law (which they write for their own protection), the State (which they operate and use against the people for their own profit) and fractionl reserve banking (which they use for debt enslavement).
This would free up much of our wealth and labor dedicated to the Elite's enjoyment for charity and jobs for those less fortunate than ourselves. I like my tough love better.
America is a failed state, unbelievable
That's
https://www.truthdig.com/eartotheground/item/ehrenreich_poverty_is_an_am...
starting from the pyramidal
economics of sellout or go to
hell, and digging down from there.
Conversely, it makes selling out
a good thing.
I guess unscrupulous billionaires
(oligarchs) WOULD like that.
Heck, getting people to see shafting
pensions being a high virtue would
be better yet. Education would be
a problem for me. My factories would
be obsoleted. The more people shaft
each other here there and everywhere,
the better it is for myself and my
counterparts in all those places.
The homeless problem presents an interesting moral question. I think it's safe to say that most of us are good-hearted people (on both the left and the right) who don't want to see fellow Americans suffer.
But if we are to be intellectually honest, then we have to admit that the problem is complex, and it can't be solved by just compassion.
Drug culture: Many homeless people are drugged out of their minds. I don't want them anywhere near me. If I had children, I wouldn't want them anywhere near them, either.
Mental illness: The government decided to empty out and close down most of the nut houses several decades ago, and also made it nearly impossible to lock crazy people up. The left cheered this as a civil rights victory. Meanwhile, thousands of sick people were turned out onto the streets with nowhere else to go.
Work ethic: We now have a begging culture that I don't believe existed 50 years ago. People are unashamed to walk right up to you and ask for money. Normal people. People who are not in the above two categories (drugs and mentally ill). I despise this.
If you build it, they will come: It's no secret that if you operate a welfare state (whether it's government or handing out sandwiches in the park), you will increase the problem rather than solve it.
Health: Tent cities and the like are health hazards. They don't have basic necessities like running water, and this invites disease. Communities are and should be concerned about that.
Look, I'm not saying that I agree with these laws that say you can't feed the homeless. I think the laws are as stupid a solution as handing out a sandwich. Neither will fix the problem. Both create more problems. Sadly, I don't have the be-all end-all solution, either. But I do recognize emotional reasoning (i.e., this article) when I see it, and I think we should be more intellectually honest than that.
I also lived in Honolulu (mentioned in the article) when the legislature (ALL DEMOCRATS!) passed the law allowing homeless people's belongings to be taken from public property if they weren't with the belongings. I thought the law was disgraceful (I'm one of those hateful conservatives, don't you know). But the fact of the matter was that homeless people had taken over most of Waikiki's parks, and Hawaii gets most of its money (like it or not) from tourism. I moved out of Waikiki after a year, because I couldn't even get out of my high-rise building without being accosted EVERY SINGLE DAY by a homeless person or beggar.
What is a community supposed to do? I'm not sure. Meanwhile, I give my money, food, and clothing to the Salvation Army, who I believe does the most good. Note that I said GOOD, not COMPASSION. Compassion makes you FEEL good; it doesn't mean you are DOING good.
Your first two assumptions are just that. you have no idea what kind of people we are or that the problem cannot be solved with compassion. I just want to be intellectually honest.
Next, many homeless may be drugged out of their mind, but a reference point would be useful. We allow all kinds of people near our kids that are drugged out of their minds on prescription drugs and we also drug our kids out of their minds on ritalin, etc,. So what is your point?
Why were the people in those institutions? What were the causes? Could it have anything to do with evironmental pollution? Food chain pollution and chemicals? Air pollution? We allow all kinds of chemicals to be dispersed without regard for their latent effects. Until 1949, the psychological community classified a woman's inability to have an orgasm via intercourse as a treatable malady called hysteria. While a certain percentage of mental illness has aways been experienced by all societies, none of them compare to what we have today.
During the Great Depression a begging culture was in full evidence. When people are starving and no opportunity exists, people will resort to begging.
Communities around the globe have existed and do exist without running water. While it requires they pay attention to their water sources, is it much worse than our running water poisoned with chlorine and a known IQ inhibitor (flouride)?
While I can understand how difficult it is to have to see these people and interact with them, when they should be thankful for your meager contributions, it must be very difficult to see them as members of your community in need. Why not work to relax regulations to allow them to work or use public areas for food production? Maybe buy them seeds and teach them to grow so they no longer need your charity? Provide running water via pipelines from public water systems to community faucets and community sewers.
Nah, let's just brand them as undesirables like in India and treat them like the disgusting filth they are, because nothing says humanity like a good pariah class.
Oh, I also want to point out that the statistics on how many homeless people there are (particularly children) are bogus. The nation does have a homeless problem, but it is not the crisis that the left wants you to believe it is. The figure on homeless children is based on idiotic criteria such as homes that are rented, or families that have lived in one place less than a certain number of years, or if you're staying with relatives.
let them eat US Army
Every homeless person in America(USA) should move to Nothern Virgiunia(Inside the Beltway), and, at a minimum, piss in everybody's water supply. Well, it was Ok when the Moonyies did it for Reagan....
Sadly, when someone says,"Sadly, more than 50 major cities", you still can't to suck enough cock that you can't possibly remember why you started sucking cock, which as I believe I remember was to find out WHICH "50 major cities"........? No, really. I assume DC is right up there but..... is it me? Did anyone find a list, or even a mention of the FIVE OH Cities in the article?
Loads of homeless? Fuck YEAH.
Under Counted? Fuck YEAH.
Throwing out unsubstantiated figures? Fuck YEA....NO...NO...NOOOO!
BTW
Fuck cities. What a waste....
This was one of the first programs initiated by the NAZI party in Germany once they obtained Power.
Just as Germany was subjugated under Fascism, America is following the Fate.
"First they came for the Communists, but I was not a Communist so I said Nothing."
Americans have NO idea of the Horror that awaits them.
Bath House Barry will bathe in your Blood and Thank Satan for the Honor.
...and then they came for the Jews and one of them said, "Wait! We're the only ones left. Mazel tov."
You might want to peruse the history of the bolshevik jews and communism and their influence within the US government starting in 1905. They never "came" for the communists, the communists came and conquered our government via the central bank and fractional reserve banking conducted by the same zionist jews.
Hitler was the only one to properly identify the problem and work towards a viable solution. He attempted to segregate the jew away from europeans. (this was his solution, not the ones the jews attempt to brainwash us with).
Many Americans do understand the horror and will work to destroy its' effects before they can overcome us.
Hallucinating.
We are governed by psychopaths.
They are destroying what makes men human beings.
Most homeless are drunks, drug adicts, petty criminals, crazy most being combinations of those.
The problem isnt going away but many cities and states are quietly trying to send there homeless somewhere else to be someone elses problem.
No feeding the homeless laws are simply both a example of trying to push homeless out and at same time making the area resistant to being a dumping ground for other areas homelss populations.
Sympathy for homeless in a comunity when other areas are more then willing to export there homeless popilations to you is sucidal. Given there maybe 500.000 terminaly homeless in US that will never be anything but people that live on street are in a jail/mental hospital.
You will never fix these people if you gave them a free house they would destroy it with in a matter of weeks and be back on the streets, Are they would turn it into a combination crackhouse, whorehouse, illegal dump, I saw that happen to a house on block where I used to live. When the city final cleared it out they ended up removing 75 tons of garbage that had been illegaly dumped there.
Small change:
"Most homeless are drunks, drug adicts, petty criminals, crazy most being combinations of those."
to
Most Politiatians are drunks, drug adicts, petty criminals, crazy most being combinations of those.
Maybe you prefer the Nationalist Socialist method of dealing with undesirables. Like put them into ghettos or work camps.
I guess the Homed homeless were the 75 tons of garbage was removed were kick out to make way for illegals or worst still liberal transgender yuppies
To:
"Most IRS agents are tax cheats. In fact, the politicians found one of the greatest minds of our generation -- also a tax cheat -- and put him in charge. Tim, Timm, Timmah!"
The "lower" classes are not as dumb and lazy as most people think they are. What is the point of owning and taking pride in a home when that will simply raise the property tax? What purpose is there to honest work, when rising above the knife edge of the income "poverty line" puts you under the threat of an 80,000 page law?
Maybe, but how many of the homeless are army veterans? Are you saying they deserve to be homeless after serving their country?
Just to get things correct in your great post, MENTAL ILLNESS is the key issue for most homeless folks...schizophrenia is the classiccase and then there are the, bipolar DO, Depression, etc
The drugs and booze are secondary and are part of the failed SELF MEDICATION cycle one often turns to on the street.
For many, they can't even live comfortably in their own skin, much less in some highly restricted/regimented housing situation or group home...so they choose to live under the bridge with the bottle of booze rather than the in place with clean sheets but no drugs or alcohol. And then there are the religious homes...treating Mental Illness as a* moral crisis* is INSANE.
Realize that mental illness like schizophrenia can be inheritable diseases. STUPID is also an inheritable trait.
The implications of increasing numbers of crazy people and stupid people giving birth to more crazy and stupid people starts to explain these laws against feeding the homeless.
So we need more research in DNA testing?
There is no end to the idiotic laws enacted by crazy and stupid legislators.
WE call the sleepers sheep but WE know what's happening. WE know why and how and WE know who caused all this and still WE do nothing. The sheep have their excuses. What's our excuse?
A solution is that the people in the food line say they are not homeless, all you have to do is give an address. Say of the local town hall or even better the Governor's official address.
Define Homeless!
If you have a mortgage remember the bank still owns your house, so technically you are homeless. Since you "rent" and not own your home.
If ask to prove where you live I am sure there are some churches that will print off some defacto renting form so the homeless can sign and "prove" they are not homeless.
When traveling in Europe, there were sponsored Concerts were the entry was 1 euro and you can then use the ticket to get a drink (usually worth more than 1 euro). This got round the law about "free" events. I am sure there can be some way for the homeless to get the food, like doing some work, bringing 3 empty plastic bottles (garbage) and getting the food for work, something to get up the pen pushers stazi noses that the food is not given away free.
It is all about the system having power over the individual, find ways for the individual to have power over the system.
I wonder if you were feeding illegals if you would be harrassed so much.
Of course not. You'd probably qualify for a gov't grant.
Not to play into the Left Right paradigm, but if you were offering food or cigarettes or booze for votes (particularly in a black neighborhood) I sense that you'd not be fined.
Shame !
In the closest city to my location there are increasing numbers of panhandlers who I assume are homeless. They tend to stand at intersections with signs but can be found other places. Recently they have become more aggressive and verbally accost people and block their progress on public sidewalks and roads. Soon people will avoid doing business in this city to avoid this rising nuisance. All part of the decline and fall of American cities as they continue on their journey towards becoming Detroit.
And when the Banks and the Government rob from you- it's no crime.
In no other country is this a crime
So much for the Freedom and Rights in the US.
It's not a crying shame. It's a laughable shame for the world.
There a lots of unsold houses in Detroit. I say take Detroit, rename it 0bamaville, move the homeless into the houses and give each of them one of the thousands of unsold cars (see ZH report.) Set up food banks.
If you want an inside look at the "homeless" read Rolling Nowhere by Ted Conover. I found it very enlightening and not a little disturbing.
“Then he will say to those on his left, ‘Depart from me, you who are cursed, into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his angels. For I was hungry and you gave me nothing to eat, I was thirsty and you gave me nothing to drink, I was a stranger and you did not invite me in, I needed clothes and you did not clothe me, I was sick and in prison and you did not look after me.’
“They also will answer, ‘Lord, when did we see you hungry or thirsty or a stranger or needing clothes or sick or in prison, and did not help you?’
“He will reply, ‘Truly I tell you, whatever you did not do for one of the least of these, you did not do for me.’
Feed the homeless in my neck and loose your arm up to your shoulder?these people are not down and out on their last leg when they come across some fat fucker with his breathing tube wrapped around his fat ass struggling to carry his wallet in the parking lot alone after dark. They see a free mark struggling to survive and if his fat ass gets it while the rest of his family can visit the memorial while shopping for yohoo's
I understand not feeding pigeons in NYC but damn, this is ridiculous!
Solution?
Tommy's Holiday Workhouse Farm.
Uncle Ernie will show you to your cot and then you will get your garden tool.
Enjoy your stay.
Instead of trying to feed the homeless - they should just -
Show them how to sign up for a federally guaranteed student loan.
What we are seeing is the growth of fascism in the U.S. The poor, the homeless, the disabled and generally the disavantaged are despised. The cities that are enforcing these laws claim they want to direct people towards social services and not charities, but yet the funding for these same social services is being gutted in the name of balanced budgets. One can only conclude that the intent here is that these people just go away ... or even die. That's right! We can't afford you anymore and we don't want to let charities help you because that only keeps you around. All our resources have to go towards helping the rich with tax breaks and cheap money because they are the job creators. Tell me something: how is it that we have had the lowest interest rates and lowest taxes in our history for the past 15-20 years and yet we have had the worst economic downturn and the highest unemployment the past 6 years since the Great Depression. Job creators my ass!!
I think that you are seeing it incorrectly. It is true that there is a rise in fascism in the US, but from the federal government mainly and perhaps at the state level as well. What you see here is local government working to keep their constituents happy. I do believe that this is misguided here in this instance, but at the local level there is still the sense by government that they serve the people. At the state level not so much and at the federal level not at all.
The feds love the disadvantaged and the disabled, but local governments not so much as they are a reason to enlarge government programs and spending. This may all change soon if the federal government ever has to face the consequences of theor spending.
Also local governments can't print money. OTOH the Feds have a printing press.
Please quit bandying about the term "Fascism" - this is Marxism, Sovietism. The big difference is that Fascism works - it protects the health, welfare and common morality of the people - it is nationalistic, it pretects is borders from invasive species and its economy actually produces, it maintains its sovereignty and elimates the criminal banking system/class. Marxism does just the oppoiste, it is soical chaos and political tyranny, ruled from the top down by the priveleged.
Farmed and Dangerous: Government Goons Raid Farm and Kill Sheep, Charge Owner with Conspiracy
On Friday, April 27 at approximately 7:15 p.m., four CFIA agents and 2 security guards arrived at Montana Jones’ Hastings Ontario farm with an order for the destruction of 9 Shropshire sheep.
They left two vehicles “guarding” the premises overnight.
The CFIA inspectors returned Saturday, April 28 at 8:00 a.m., loaded up the 9 sheep, 8 of which were due to have lambs, and drove them approximately four hours to slaughter in Nepean.
The farmer, Montana Jones, now faces prison time for unsubstantiated charges such as conspiracy for trying to preserve sheep biodiversity.
http://thefreethoughtproject.com/farmed-dangerous-government-goons-raid-farm-kill-sheep-charge-owner-conspiracy/#rDw1jpYVd5IAq6OU.99
Reference the previous article and give every homeless person a car to live in. Then use it as a "write off".
This seems like two articles bunched into one.
First is how cities are frustrated and ruthless.
Second is how companies are too stupid to deal with people who need to be led step by step to do even the most menial tasks..
Two totally separate ideas
Good article very much worth bringing to our attention. It's truly sad what's going on. I talk about "The Grays" to where people are living in virtual worlds versus the real world and that's big part of our problem. This the perfect example here as to where the "real" world comes back to bite, the homeless and you can't just move them and it's not a crime to be poor. Going further here with giving them bus tickets just moves the real probelm to another area. Over in the healthcare side of things it's coming forward that we don't understand "how people work". "Here's an app now go fix yourself", and the same principal applies here, here's a but ticket now go fix yourself...people don't work that way.
http://ducknetweb.blogspot.com/2014/04/heres-app-now-go-fix-yourself-why...
Moving the homeless out of site just does not work and that's a virtual world value as the homeless don't go away and furthermore to make a a crime to help just makes it worse. Technology is not going to fix everything in the country and all the stats and numbers you want to look at can be helpful if they are accurate but we all know we're not getting that either, but more or less the virtual values they want us all to buy in to. I have been all over the White House too with lving in a "template" to where they have isolated themselves off on an island as well, sad and scary. It didn't used to be that way, but it is now.
Homeless people are not a virtual value, they are the real world.
http://ducknetweb.blogspot.com/2014/03/virtual-worlds-real-world-we-have...
Job programs don't work as we have analytics that don't let the poor in anymore to help them. Sure there's always been a few that you can't help as on the other side they have to want the help but right now there's a good reason not to trust sadly too and again it's the "virtual values" out there that just don't work as we are fooling ourselves. We have it with technology for what's left of the middle class to continue to shift many of us down a level lower too. It's all math formulas and algorithms running on severs that "score" and tell us what we can have and what we can't. The World Privacy Forum is well aware of this and did a good job in their report as the rest of the world stands by and watches "the scoring of America". As long as those virtual values persist and we don't have balance, people get caught up in quantitated justifications for things that are just not true. People don't work that way and sadly the poor suffer the most as they are scored even more and the math formulas have already determine their future, so there needs to be an awakening soon I agree with what people are substantiating as answers. We're getting to the bottom of the formulas in more ways than one and it's working in reverse now and it's how the wealthy stay on top. If they didn't have the formulas working for them as they do now, it might be a little different out there.
http://ducknetweb.blogspot.com/2014/05/people-dont-work-that-way-world-o...
We need balance with the virtual worlds and the real world and again people can't tell the difference anymore as they have been fed numbers and stats as what counts. The VA in Phoenix, another good example of being in that world, no left turn could be seen to save a life. When interviewed all they could talk about were numbers and stats, very scary and no though to the fact that there were people attached to those numbers.
My friend flew into Houston for a meeting, rented a car and drove there. After the meeting he grabbed a bag of fast food and headed fast back to the airport t catch his return flight. On the way back to the airport saw a pathetic bearded skinny homeless creature so handed his untouched food bag out the window for the fellow.
Wham! Got a warning from the Houston PD. Feeding the animals not allowed they told him.
The system be broke.
First time I ever agreed with Snyder although it would be nice to see soem actual facts. I imagine a lot of it has to do with the fact that a lot of cities are trying to draw in empty-nesters and younger people with no kids in their downtown areas & don't want the homeless people around. Kind of like what Giuliani did in NYC in the 90s.
Our government is carried away with foolish pride, and will find that it is fighting against God Himself. Thomas Jefferson feared offending God as is shown in his statement, "I tremble for my country when I reflect that God is just; that his justice cannot sleep forever."
God Himself opened up the New World as a refuge for those suffering abuse and persecution in Europe. Millions turned to America with interest and hope. The Statue of Liberty itself says, "Give me your tired, your poor, Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free, The wretched refuse of your teeming shore." And God blessed our nation with unrivaled mercies. It was said, America is great because she is good. We never heard those words any more, never.
Well mght our leaders now tremble for their country because their policies are more and more working at cross purposes with heaven's merciful designs. They are blindly leading us down the road of a national apostasy from everything that once made us great.
"Beware that there be not a thought in thy wicked heart . . . and thine eye be evil against thy poor brother, and thou givest him nought; and he cry unto the LORD against thee, and it be sin unto thee." Deuteronomy 15:9
"Behold, this was the iniquity of thy sister Sodom, pride, fulness of bread, and abundance of idleness was in her and in her daughters, neither did she strengthen the hand of the poor and needy." Ezekiel 16:49.
Why worry? Every person is a producer. We need more and more of them.
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-05-17/guest-post-myth-over-population
American Sick Psycho https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NY3yzLA-g24
As many here have frequently noted, TPTB are able to control their sheep through a divide-and-conquer strategy. Ordinary people who might be inclined to help are easily intimidated by fines and other judicial harrassment. Nobody wants to pay money and once the fine machine starts, it's seemingly unstoppable. OTOH, the homeless are frequently so fucked up themselves that they cannot organize any resistance. For example, TPTB will raid a homeless camp looking for drugs and paraphanalia knowing that such things will be easily found and can be used as an excuse for further torment. Keep the people separated and helpless.
Part A of a solution is for potential victims (read: homeless) to systematically band together, strength-in-numbers-style and to engage in systematic civil disobedience. Of what consequence are fines or citations to judgment-proof people? If you don't have a job or bank accounts or real estate or insurance or licenses or any of other such chains, then you're more readily able to deploy the middle finger to those in need of it. So suppose some homeless people organize their own "soup kitchen" in one of these benighted areas. WTF will TPTB do about that? Lock 'em all up? Somebody has to pay for that and last I heard .gov is running low on EZ cash.
Part B of this solution is for the victims to diligently prosecute their tormentors by exploiting their individual financial weaknesses. Despite the fact that they are mostly grotesquely overpaid for whatever it is they do, they are also typically maxed out finanically speaking. How many stackers are in their numbers vs. how many live on EZ credit? Imagine a group of people who make it their business to attract government abuse and then to sue the piss out of the individual perpetrators. Although they wouldn't get very far suing anybody who is just "doing their (government) job" in their offical capacity, they'll have much more luck when said defendants have stepped outside the boundaries of their own rules. The goal is to make these individual people personally responsible for their actions by burying them in vexatious litigation and bankruptcy court.
The goal is to establish a "don't fuck with us" atmosphere. So fucking what if somebody organizes a soup kitchen your your suburban shit-hole? Just ignore them and leave them alone. This is not an impossible attitude to instill in the "minds" of the benighted.
For a fictional treatment of how this might work, please see http://thebrotherhoodreport.blogspot.com