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Meet Denmark's VoteMan: Using Sex & Violence To Get Out The Vote For EU Elections
Most people have no idea what government is about. As Bill Bonner notes, they think it is a benign institution, designed to make life better for everyone. “The government is all of us,” said Hillary Clinton, talking her book. This myth helps keep the voters and the taxpayers in line.
Some governments, desperate to get more “buy in” from the public, even insist eligible voters go to the polls – or face penalties.
Other countries, such as the US, merely excite the voters with dreams of avarice and threats of sanctions. One group votes because it hopes to score more of another group’s money. The other group votes to protect itself.
Among “get out the vote” campaigns, Denmark’s recent cartoon for the European parliamentary elections (by all accounts a snooze-fest) must set a new milestone in the history of democratic fraud and absurdity.
As The Financial Times reports:
“The 90-second video features “Voteman,“ a muscleman first seen in bed with five naked women who then proceeds to beat up young people to force them to vote. He then decapitates one man, interrupts a couple having sex to throw them out of a window, and uses a dolphin to help chuck people into voting booths.”
The Danish parliament withdrew the video on Tuesday.
Politicians want you to vote so they can claim to represent you. Then they do what they want. Like any other organization, government promotes the goals of those who control it. In that sense, it is no different from the Kiwanis International club or the electric power company. Every business, club or charitable institution is meant to do something – and always and everywhere it does what the people running it want done.
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wtf?
rock the vote.
vote or die.
whatever they decide to say for 2016 or whenever...
so thats how Obummer won the election twice.....
The US version of VOTEMAN = Welfare checks.
and student loans.
you will legitimize our rigged and fraudulent voting system by participating or else...
Seems like the people of Denmark could be an example to us all. Don't show up to give creedance to the farce.
that has been my policy for years. and oddly, some people get violent about it... as if the throught that elections are rigged and pointless somehow destroys their whole concept of reality... oh wait.
The only votes that seem to matter are the ones in my small village of 2,000 people. About 200 show up to vote and taxes can and have been decided by as little as three 3 votes. The rest of the state and national elections....fuck em.
"making everbody vote"... how democratic
Viva Saddam Hussein..... oh wait... that guy WAS Sudan Hussein! Shit! Fuck you Osama Obama!
They should have had the background theme music.. (to the tune of the old Batman show..)
Voteman!! Nana Nana Nana Nana
Voteman!
Voteman! Nana Nana Nana Nana
Biff!
Bang!!
Booiiinggg!
Here, for you spuds..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OpWVV8wuM1A
Vote or Die
Stealing P. Diddy's idea
Is Liberalism liberal?
Are Progressives progressive?
Can you be conservative and not a Republican?
No.
No.
Yes.
Well played, sir...
Thanks to Google, tweeter and Facebook, our vote will be cast automatically.
I wonder where Denmark get the Voteman idea from?
http://www.southparkstudios.com/clips/104400/vote-or-die
and there are only five (not 72) women ?
voting just means the sociopath take it as us giving them our consent to fuck us all over forever.
don't vote...
fuck 'em
We don't need sociopaths running/ruining our lives while they gain power, money and elitism.
In Australia they will put you in JAIL if you don't vote. Seriously.
but isn't not voting essentially a vote? how fucking stupid.
If you choose not to decide, you still have made a choice... I like the way you think.
Geddy Fucking Lee for Universal Dictator, bitchez...
(and for those Rush-fan dorks out there who are going to come in and say "Neil Peart wrote all the lyrics" you are only ALMOST correct about that.)
The original (Peart) written lyric in the song "Freewill" is: "If you choose not to decide, you cannot have made a choice"
Geddy Lee realized that decision is choice - and he changed the lyric as he sang in the recording studio.
in other words- he rebelled.
Rebellion is good.
Fuck the vote.
Yay Geddy. Otherwise I would've hated that song.
I saw them a couple years ago, and Spirit of the Radio was their lead-off song. Geddy's voice wasn't yet warmed up enough to hit the high notes, which led me to worry if I'd wasted my money.
Thankfully it just took him a couple of minutes, and they rocked.
There should either be an option to vote non-confidence, or not voting should by default be a vote of non-confidence. If more than 51% vote non-confidence, whatever government it is - municipal, state/provincial, federal - should be disbanded and have a reconstitution.
pretty sure you can guess why that will never happen.
"They put you in jail in Australia...."
Old memories die hard.
Bullshit...$50 fine, as voting is 'compulsory' if you are a 'state asset', which if you have accepted (ie not rejected nor withdrawn consent) a 'birth certificate', you are. Commonwealth Electoral Act 1924 (Cth). http://foundingdocs.gov.au/item-sdid-89.html
All raw prawns on the barbie. G'donya, serf's up...
Like legislating 'patriotism' via the patriot act.
So, with the same principle applied: "making everybody pay taxes"... how democratic.
Oh wait... that IS the reality, try NOT paying your taxes and see what happens.
Soon they will make you vote one of the sociopathic politician puppets or you will go to prison, it would fit very nicely with the way people are forced to pay taxes.
The State. Ideas so great, they have to be mandadory.
The elections are rigged, or the candidates are rigged? Because either way, you get the same result.
Candidates are rigged. Pick one from a plethora of globalist clones
I just let Diebold and the associated software vote for me; kinda HFT version of stealing only here they are stealing an election.
It amused me no end when the electronic machines were introduced for 'accuracy' and the sheep went Baaa Baaa Baaaa!
A case could convincingly be made the infamous 'hanging chad' was in fact a false flag op to introduce machine voting.
Soon there will be voting via Internet. And we all know how secure that is. It really is to laugh, to quote BB.
Princeton University Exposes Diebold Flaws - YouTubewww.youtube.com/watch?v=aZws98jw67g
Some creative types went full-retard on that one. Edward Bernays must be spinning in his grave.
"NO, THAT'S NOT HOW IT'S DONE!!!"
Indeed!
Builds Bodies Twelve Ways!
I always Wondered (pun intended, duh) just WTF those 12 ways really were!?
But this ad said it was only eight ways!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wrA-W5ogvJc
lol, I don't know man. Me handle just sort of emerged out of an alcohol-induced brain fart late one night.
Works for me too dude!
They must be smoking some seriously heavy shit over there. . . JFC that was wierd.
Love him riding the leather-harnessed dolphins from his island lair.
OMFG - if that ever came on TV here, my grandparents would have a stroke.
Lets see how long it takes some moron with a sub 80 IQ to write "if ya don't vote, you have nothing to complain about. Just wait till the next election when 'our guys' get in !"
Guessed they missed the recent 'US is an oligarchy' news articles. Guess they missed the articles on rigged voting machines that can't be audited. Guess they missed reading about propagandist Bernays who wrote that the American people would be manipulated in what to 'think' and how to vote by those in the real hidden power structure, whose names they wouldn't know.
If you vote for the winner, then you can't complain when he does shit you don't like, cuz you voted for him.
If you didn't vote for the winner, you can't complain when the winner does shit you don't like, cuz you expected everybody to abide by your choice if your man had won.
If you didn't vote, then when the winner does shit you don't like, you can't comlplain cuz you did 'nothing' to change the outcome of the election.
So no matter what the assholes do, I'm sorry, as long as you can vote, you're not allowed to complain. Bitchez.
This is why I have never voted. Obviously I never thought I would have to contend with 'Vote Man'. He doesn't really seem open to discussion so I'm not sure how I will counter his abrupt mannerisms.
The democrats already have that beat judging from the number of dead people and pets tha vote every election.
He's angry because he didn't get to vote for climate change regulation, AG subsidies, toy and cinnamon regulations? Means voteman is a liberal Democrat.
I know I kinda laughed as if these are the big fucking issues on the great unwashed collective minds. How about throwing off the superflous yolk of overbearing regulatory tyrrany?
One day aliens will land and unearth a data archive detailing the EU's regulatory policy on how much cinnamon on a cinnamon roll and laugh their fucking asses off.
Is that a jolk?
Shit I started drinking too early again!
Bonner boeghner boner.....still funny
Has the whole f**king world gone mad? I wanna get off this planet.
North Korea isn't looking so bad now... is it? LOL
But I don't wanna get a haircut!
We're never going back, are we?
it makes sense to use sex and violence to promote politicians when sex and violence are what compells politicians
I deeply love this blue orb, just wanna be away from the billions of devious primates overrunning it...
Scotty's gone now, we're stuck
If nobody votes, how are the benevolent souls who are the elected body going to proclaim that they are doing the people's business?
Their power stems from everyone voting.
If they threw an election and nobody came, they would be hard pressed to try and do anything.
Put it back on them.
Rock the vote?
How about FUCK the vote?
pods
Makes quite the tshirt - http://www.zazzle.com/cr/design/pt-zazzle_shirt?pd=235426044145076165&get_started_dialog=false&style=ladies_casual_ringer_tshirt_melange&color=pinkred&size=a_s&design.areas=[front_horz]&context=114483170299080698&view=113993575637931867
Freaking awesome.
Buck Farack
Oh if I could upvote you more.
Sehr ausgezeichnet!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lIRd4lC04l8
Ill never look at my bondage dolphin the same again : (
Soda out of my nose on that one Flagit. One day I will stop eating and drinking while reading Hedge.
In the comming technocracy we will have Direct Democracy, where we will harness mob rule most expediently. It will feel like a jackboot in your blowhole, as pictured above, when the informed public reaches consensus brought to you by Carls Jr.
The people in America should rig the elections. I am very curious to see what would happen if 20 million Americans voted for a write-in candidate. Do you think the TV polls and election results would report 20 million votes for Macho Camacho ?
When I see bearded divas and Voteman Videos, I don't pass judgement, I think of parallels to Weimar Germany...
LOL Bill: "Bearded Divas and psycopathic leather chaps wearing sex addicts, this is the Democracy you've been waiting for!"
a lifelong friend of my father was a prosecutor of the Nazi high command and its general counsel at Nuremberg, before he passed away a few years ago I asked him about 9/11 as the US Reichstag fire and that whether we are going down the nazi path. Being the perennial international lawyer that he was, he said yes in so many words by sending me a speech he had given to a group of federal prosecutors' warning them that a number of policies passed and actions done by the US government were in violation of the ICC laws that the military code of justice for the US military are based on. He knew a little about it since he assisted in creating the military code of justice and the ICC.
He forgot the first rule of law. It doesn't apply to those in power, just the losers and peons.
Why make any drug illegal anymore. If entire countries are this insane.....then there is NO drug in the world that can top that.
I'm pretty sure I witnessed Voteman reading headstones in a Chicago cemetery during the last presidential election.
Jesus fucking Christ, WTF was that?
the EU version of obamacare ads... bro
It's an affirmation on why it's NOT a good idea to vote.
"Jesus fucking Christ"
Um, kind of impossible. It would be more correct and diverse of you to say "Mohammed fucking Child".
It is possible. Jesus masturbating is all that would be. Calling WilliamBanzai...
Jesus masturbating is all that would be -Catholics may disagree.
I tend to be politically correct and just say Jesus fucking Mary.
Voteman needs to see Dentistman.
Mo-Larr, Eternian dentist:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LLrMTymm9v4
Dude, huge WTF there. Huge. How was that video even allowed to be made?
Because people didn't vote.
Dun-dun-duuuun.....
It's called desperation. The politicos are sensing that they aren't popular, and they need the the people to buy in to the system in order to feel legitimate.
If you feel that voting legitimizes the fucks in office, then don't vote. If you feel that voting is important, "throw" your motherfucking vote away and vote third party for everything. I don't care if the only third party option is socialist - at least the ones running under that label are being a fuck-ton more honest than the assholes in office.
But in the end, nothing changes until people roll motherfucking guillotines, and not necessarily on capitol hill. K-Street is one of the places where the real source of corruption is.
Or some interns went rogue, and it is a satirical piece put up in protest.
yep, true
1/ Danish EC election committee tasked to come up with catchy meme to break through twerkin and jerkin MMS and appeal to young people moribundly ignorant of political process, corruption of eurodemocracy by unelected statist EU bureaucrats. Or aware enough to be totally disillusioned by the prevailing dominant EUROnarrative?
2/ Committee chair had unemployed animator mate?
3/ Commissioned Market Research that decided it views well on apathetic young tax donkey/debt slave smart phone or mobile device?
Bonner writes, "Like any other organization, government promotes the goals of those who control it." This is not entirely true.
A social machine (that is a government, corporation, etc) will trend to do what it is designed to do. Sometimes this means it does the opposite of what it's supposed "controllers" want.
A hammer can hammer a lot of nails, but you can't bake a cake with it; doesn't matter who is in charge. Likewise, a corporation is designed to make money, but if a CEO for example wants to be environmentally consious or give workers better than necessary pay, he will be pushed out or pressured into obedience. Even if he prevails and his goals are implemented, the larger social machine, that of the market, has ways of weeding out such renegades.
In short, to quote Thoreau, " "We become tools of our tools." Viewed in this context, the problem isn't government per say, but social machines that operate in such a way as to dominate individual autonomy. It's not that the powerful are out of control, rather no one is in control. It is the great tasks of our time to reclaim our autonomy from these machines.
Let me sum up, government is controlled by psychopaths and backed by people who want to steal what producers create. Government create laws to "legally" steal.
There is much of that -- no doubt. My only point was that you don't need a psychopath "running the joint" for things to get ugly. The bureaucracy is sufficient enough because social systems dominate people's lives.
For example, in Zygmunt Bauman's Modernity and the Holocaust, he argues that only 10 percent or so of the Nazi SS was especially sadistic or violent by their nature. The rest were normal people, encouraged by a social system called "government" to maintain a professional attitude. In fact, they actively suppressed and punished people who acted with glee in their duties to annihilate the Jews. Milgram's 1960s obediance experiments confirm that social machines can force people to do horrible things they would never do as individuals.
That psychopaths are in charge is not the problem. The problem is that they are obeyed.
I think that's a fair synopsis. And I'll add to it:
That's another way of saying that we are going to get mission creep. I think that people really should look at Joseph Tainter's work because I think that it is very important. We keep on adding complexity upon complexity to our society, and in many cases, this is bureaucracy expanding to meet the expanding needs of bureaucracy. Unfortunatly, there is such a thing as diminishing returns and there are costs to this complexity. When we cannot afford to pay those costs, we suffer a complexity collapse. We are approaching that point.
Another way of putting it is that people feel that they need to solve problems to be useful. Sometimes, solving the problem makes worse problems that must then be solved. It's kind of like a ponzi scheme, but with rules rather than money. This eventually translates to unnecessary and wasteful authoritarian intrusions into our lives. If you convince a person that what they're doing is necessary for the greater good, you need not send a psycopath in to crack the skulls. (I.e. You gotta follow the rulez, man! It's only fair!) But if you put a psycopath in charge, you get bigger problems.
"When we cannot afford to pay those costs, we suffer a complexity collapse. We are approaching that point."
The most important cause of the coming "complexity collapse" is that the established systems are based on legalized lies, backed by legalized violence, BUT, that violence cannot make those lies become true. What actually exists IS hyper-complex, because the only connection between the laws of men and the laws of nature is the ability to back up lies with violence. That makes the social system become way more convoluted than otherwise, since it is trapped inside the vicious spirals of attempting to make lies become true by making a greater use of violence to back them up.
Human civilization suffers from the prolonged history of successful warfare being based on backing up deceits with destruction. Therefore, that was then the foundation of REAL human ecology, upon which was made and maintained the ACTUAL political economy, whose success was based on enforced frauds.
In theory, human beings could operate their systems better, if they understood those systems as special cases of general energy systems. In theory, we could have a more scientific society, that understood itself better. However, in practice almost all of the established systems are based on the history of warfare, with economics becoming more symbolic warfare. Therefore, not only are the established systems the hyper-complicated operations done by the biggest bullies, explaining everything they are doing with bullshit, but also, almost the entire controlled opposition to that continues to still stay within the same bullshit world view.
"Democracy" suffers deeply from being almost totally buried under the biggest bullies' bullshit social stories, which are taught at the public schools, and presented in the mass media. The fundamental way that human realities are explained is pretty well totally BACKWARDS to the ways that they actually exist.
A better democracy is theoretically possible, but if and only if citizens understood that they were members of an organized crime gang, called their country. The degree to which they do not understand that is the real situation, and do not want to understand that is the real situation, is the degree to which democracy is already dead. In fact, "democracy" is already about 99% dead. Indeed, at least 99% of the citizens act like incompetent political idiots, which can be plainly proven if one just looks at the ways that the public "money" supply has been about 99% privatized. However, due to that situation already being so extremely imbalanced, there are no practical ways to rebalance it ... Instead, it is automatically getting worse, faster. The deeper reasons are that almost nobody wants to face the basic facts that money is measurement backed by murder, because the debt controls are based on the death controls. Instead, the tiny groups of the best organized gangs of criminals have been able to built governments, and control them, while making sure to brainwash almost everyone else to believe in bullshit, and to want to continue believing in that bullshit.
Ideally, democracy, operating through the rule of law, is the best theoretically solution for the problem that everyone has some power to rob, and power to kill to back that up. Therefore, institutions like a democratic republic, operating through the rule of law, are the best theoretical ways to assemble and channel the power that everyone has to rob and kill. However, in reality, the vast majority of people have been brainwashed to believe in bullshit so much that they have become Zombie Sheeple, while a tiny minority of Wolves in Sheep's Clothing actually control civilization, by having achieved the privatization of the public "money" supply, and pretty well every other kind of crazy corruption through the vicious spirals of the funding of politics, resulting in more legalized lies, backed by more legalized violence ... which returns to the original problem, that the violence never can make those lies become true, but only drive that society to become more psychotically insane, as the bullshit that people want to believe in gets further and further away from the relatively more objective facts of what actually exists.
Therefore, we ARE headed towards hyper-complexity collapses, as the systems of legalized lies, backed by legalized violence, drive themselves into mad self-destruction. That on-coming time of Peak Insanity is practically guaranteed, because almost nobody wants to understand that. Not only is the world dominated by the biggest bullies' bullshit, but also, almost all of the controlled opposition against the established systems of enforced frauds are also still operating within the same frame of reference as the bullies' bullshit world view.
While it is theoretically possible that an awakened and better educated public could run a better democracy through a better rule of law, IN FACT, the established systems are already about 99% screwed up, and therefore, no political practical ways actually exist to prevent the runaway crazy hyper-complexities of systems of legalized lies, backed by legalized violence, from destroying themselves. The ruling classes desperately want those they rule over to continue believing in bullshit, and the ruling classes have been already almost totally successful in conditioning the majority of people in feeling like they want to continue to believe in bullshit.
Therefore, the Grand Canyon Paradoxes, of living inside of a Bizarro Mirror World Fun House, continue to get wider and worse! Prodigious progress in various sciences and related technologies continues to be made and demonstrated, while social sciences refuse to recognize their own obvious truth, that warfare was the oldest and best developed social science, which was a problematic achievement, since militarism was a science based upon successful deceptions. As the history of the War Kings gradually morphed into become the Fraud Kings, the private banks, the human ecology systems, that had been made and maintained through the history of warfare based on deceits, morphed into a political economy made and maintained on the basis of successfully enforced frauds, namely, the existing monetary and taxation systems.
"Democracy" became a stupid rubber stamp, applied to legitimize the privatization of the public "money" supply, to be issued by private banks, that created that "money" out of nothing as debts. The SOCIAL INSANITY of that situation is automatically getting worse, faster, as that debt slavery system drives its numbers towards debt insanities. However, because BOTH the established systems, as well as their controlled opposition, are based on believing in the biggest bullies' bullshit view of the world, the FACTS that money is measurement backed by murder, and the debt controls depend on the death controls, are deliberately ignored in general.
BASICALLY, our society is actually controlled by hyper-complicated systems of legalized lies, backed by legalized violence, which are inherently problematic and actually psychotically insane, but those systems are deeply entrenched, by both the establishment, and its controlled opposition groups. Therefore, we are necessarily headed towards the psychotic collapses into chaos of those systems. There ARE theoretical ways that we could operate a more scientific society, that was more self-aware, and used more information, in order to operate through higher consciousness, ... BUT, there are no politically practical ways to get from where we are now, to there.
Instead, where we ARE now is that about 99% of the "citizens" act like Zombie Sheeple, or political idiots, while the controlled opposition are almost totally Black Sheeple, that spout the same bullshit as the Vicious Wolves, and their Domesticated Dogs do about how human society operates, or is supposed to operate. Hence, our problems are NOT merely too much complexity, which can not be sustained, but rather, our problems are too much hyper-complexity, because everything done within our current civilization requires that to be done by professional liars and immaculate hypocrites, operating through the history of the maximum possible deceits, and frauds, and therefore, operating with the maximum attitudes of evil deliberate ignorance towards the real nature of our actual problems.
Democracy is already practically dead. The established systems of globalized privatization are already close to terminally sick and insane. The only theoretically possible realistic solutions would require a series of profound paradigm shifts in the philosophy of science, which applied to politics, and especially to militarism and the monetary system. However, pretty well everyone does not like that, and so, does not want to understand that. Therefore, our real problems, of operating everything through runaway systems of legalized lies, backed by legalized violence, keep on getting worse, faster, while almost nobody is able and willing to think sufficiently different about those problems in order to perhaps resolve them better.
There is nothing wrong with the ideals of a democracy operating through the rule of law. What is wrong is the degree to which the biggest bullies have already succeeded in brainwashing the vast majority of people into believing in bullshit, and wanting to continue to believe in that bullshit. Since communication is first an engineering problem, there are no practical ways to actually communicate to enough people a better understanding, since, actually, the school systems and mass media are already set up to continue to brainwash people to believe in bullshit. Therefore, the democratic rule of law is still the best theoretical system, but has barely the slightest realistically practical chance of working. It would take a series of political miracles for enough people to stop believing in bullshit enough to make democracy work better. Since that appears extremely improbable, the default position that will likely happen is that our hyper-complex society, built on systems of legalized lies backed by legalized violence, will continue becoming even more psychotically insane, until its madness destroys itself ... after which, all bets are off!
TL:DR - Who were you saying I should vote for? Republicans this time? OK.
Nice to see you bringing back some objectivity in to your analyses. You need to drop the 99% 'factoid' though. Noone believes anyone who says 99% this, or 99% that. The rule is, unless you have the reams of empirical data to support a hard figure, then don't cite a hard figure.
"until its madness destroys itself "
Yes, much better. You're conclusion is now consistent with your premise of an ecological energy system. Noone is in control of an ecology. Therefore, no one person, or caste, can destroy an ecology. The ecology, in a simple way, destroys itself.
mrpxsytin, my "99%" figure is mainly based upon thirty years of work on the Canadian Political Contribution Tax Credit, and other aspects of the history of the funding of the political processes in Canada, during which time I also engaged in 2 court cases against the government of Canada over the laws controlling the laws about funding politics, which court cases took up about 15 years, during which time, I did everything I could to find all possible information in the law libraries about the history of the funding of politics, and the relationship between money and politics. I am currently still working on that project through Canadian Electoral District Associations
So, actually, yes, I DO have "reams of data" to support that hard figure: 99% of Canadian taxpayers pay for no politics. 1% pay for everything. If anything, those are understatements of how extremely unbalanced things are. In fact, MORE than 99% of the Canadian Political Contribution Tax Credit NEVER gets used! The ratios of participation in funding political processes are reflected in the outcomes. The "public" part of the public "money" supply is now down to the relatively trivial minting of coins, which is a tiny percentage of the overall money supply, most of which is made by private banks.
The situation in the USA and UK is, of course, similar to that of Canada. However, by far, the USA is the worst of all right now. One can also look there at the percentage of people who pay for politics to be done, compared to those who do not, as well as look at the outcomes of the ratios of the creation of money out of nothing through privatized channels, versus through public channels.
Again, I say "about 99%," but it is certainly not better than 97%, and could much more readily be argued to be worse overall, rather than better. For instance, in my collection of Excellent Videos on Money Systems, one can find:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XcGh1Dex4Yo
97% Owned - Monetary Reform documentary
That is about how the "money" supply in the UK is 97% privatized. In Canada it is worse, and in the USA, worse still. In general, all over the world, at least about 99% of the people act like incompetent political idiots. Almost always, their theoretical legal documents, in their constitutions, or histories, state that "the People" have control over the money supply, while, IN FACT, almost everywhere, the real control over the "money" supply has been about 99% privatized, with a slight range from a little less, to almost total.
My opinions are based on specializing in researching this kind of topic, for several decades, and discussing that face to face with tens of thousands of different people, including several hundred lawyers, and a couple dozen judges. It is also based on my current work, which constantly proves, day after day, that 99% of Canadians are not interested in participating in the funding of politics, even when they can make a personal, after-tax profit from doing so. I DO have "reams of data" and an abundance of logical arguments to prove that the vast majority of Canadian taxpayers always act like incompetent political idiots. The problem is that since they ARE, it makes no difference to be able to prove that social fact. Since society IS controlled by lies backed by violence, evidence and logical arguments make no practical difference to social habits.
IT IS NOT POSSIBLE FOR HUMAN BEINGS TO SEPARATE NATURAL SELECTION FROM ARTIFICIAL SELECTION. THEY BLEND. HUMAN SELECTIONS ARE HUMAN FORMS OF NATURAL SELECTION.
THE REAL QUESTION IS:
TO WHAT DEGREE IS THE FUTURE GOING TO RESULT FROM HUMAN STUPIDITY OR HUMAN INTELLIGENCE?
RIGHT NOW,
STUPIDITY FACTORS ARE WINNING HANDS DOWN!
Thanks for the clarification. I'm yet to see any social phenomena proven to within 99% accuracy. So, while I'm not discounting your evidence, I will still argue that your 99% claims are too bold. I get the point though, the vast majority of funding and political will is in the hands of a minority of people.
I tend to agree that stupidity factors are winning. However, we are seeing a resurgence in conservative values in the non-Western world. India is the latest country to turn away from the depraved Western model. So, perhaps it is simply time for the West to go dormant and wallow in the deep dark recesses of stupidity for a while.
If I were in the US I'd be looking to immigrate. But then again, what country would take a depraved, decadent American?
Government is a disease, masquerading as its own cure.
So explain to me again why I should:
1. vote for the 2016 Presidential candidate Sock Puppets, the outcome of which is pre-ordained?
2. vote for the Senatorial and House candidate Sock Puppets who have been bought and sold by the corporations?
3. vote for initiatives and referendums that have had so much money thrown at them by corporate and elite interests as to make even me want to vote for bad legislation or vote against good.
I really don't see a reason to waste my time. But I'm open. Convince me. Maybe Barry and Michelle in latex espousing the virtues of voting while having femdom sex might do it for me. Maybe. Maybe not. Don't know.
While I am with LawsOfPhysics on the idea that nothing will change until the guillotines are rolled, one reason that you could vote is, not to select a candidate, but rather as a 1st Amendment action. You could do that by voting for no Democrats and no Republicans, and only voting third party. The idea would be to send the message that you're sick of the assholes who are merely different sides of the same coin. But whether or not you vote is your decision.
Whether or not doing what I describe above legitimizes the fucks in office is up for debate, but I don't think that voting will change anything and I don't think that not voting will change anything. The people who hold real power will try to hold onto it even if the cost of maintaining it is their very lives, and they don't give a shit if you vote.
Politics is evil.
Voting is the life-blood of politics.
Thus, voting is evil.
Not only that, I find it to be the worst form of evil, as it is cast as good.
If voting actually meant a god damn thing that shit would be made illegal. Capitical offense, no doubt
Sodom & Gomorra. They don't even hide it anymoar.
anymoarra
(fxd)
Im starting to think this voting things not all its cracked up to be. India has just voted for Hitler (with added nuclear weapons).
Know a better way to undermine all nation-states so that a world government can emerge from their ashes?
Well, other than central banking, that is.
File this with "compulsory voluntary service".
What's next, free pot and 8 gigs of porn dowmloads if you show up to pull the lever?
8 gigs isn't enough. *pats 1T HDD*
At least the video never once mentioned Muhammad.
£1000 fine in the UK for not wishing to partake in 'democracy'. Yes, that makes it so much more appealing.
They dont care if you vote or not, they just want you on their database.
Now, I've told 'em that I absolutely will not participate, nor will I register as an Elector. That I do not Consent to the governance of Parliament.
Am still waiting to be fined/arrested or whatever.
Been several years, now.
Easier to ignore me than to make a fuss, I suppose.
Oh, if only I could convince a few thousand Englishmen to follow my lead and actively withdraw their Consent. We could create a political crisis.
There should be a political crisis when Farage wipes the floor with the mainstream parties on Thursday. The coalition has virtually no mandate to govern as it is, and if they don't know it Ukip should send them the message. The 1922 committee have nothing to discuss but Camerons future and there might be a slim chance the only way they can steal Ukips thunder is to bring forward the EU referundum to before May 2015...
Suddenly a lot of American ex campaign has-beens are washing up on Britain's shores. The Right Horrible David Macaroon is talking 'real change'. I wonder does that come with 'hope'? (Seems the death of American exports has been largely exaggerated).
UKIP victory would be a good hard slap in the face though. If there's going to be fascism, it might as well be comedy fascism.
edit: GBP dump in the offing? breakaway from EU and drop Scotland? Bit of a dent. Parisians must be looking to slide into Eurobourse position too. Banks leave London with a £1.6T debt pile? Nice. Bodies piling up in the street in 3... 2...
What the hell..? I want my 90 seconds back: I could've been watching European lesbian porn...
Can you imagine that in the States? Haha! The uptight prudes here would have their knickers in a bunch over a guy being pleasured by his harem.
I would laugh harder, if the Obamacare ads hadn't been worse.
Exactly. If anyone is dumb enough to vote on here, you deserve what's coming...
"My guillotine votes and always splits the ticket."
As for voting, if the organization having the election is criminal, as the DC US is, then, at best, voting makes you an accessory to their crimes. Worse, it makes you an accessory to the crimes being committed against you.
I can think of few things more immoral than voting.
Paying taxes pays to bomb women and children, and voting for the assholes who make it happen puts the blood on your hands.
Not voting is part of "quit playing."
The Four Rs
Rejection: Quit paying, quit obeying, quit playing
Revolution: It is inevitable, so prepare, as they are.
Retribution: The guilty must answer for their crimes against the American people and the Constitution.
Restoration: Restore the Constitutional republic.
Chris- I'm not quite to the point of not voting yet, but I am leaning that way. My question to you would be, doesnt 'not voting' give them the same legitimacy as voting for one of them (the two)? I have voted for third parties since I 'woke up', if for no other reason to try to give them some foothold in the system. I understand that the 'system' works against us and therefore trying to work within it would be self defeating (did I just answer my own question?), but how does withholding a vote make a difference other than a personal statement?
I am at the point now (now in the sense that I hope to continue to evolve) where I think that if you do not vote, you proclaim to everyone that you do not think your own opinion matters, and that you do not care.
I do have a very close and respected friend that didnt vote for the longest time for your same reasons. He was not willing to give them any legitimacy, and by not voting absolved himself of responibility for what is done in 'our' names.
Clever,
It is passive resistance. The sociopaths thrive on adulation, and that is how they see elections. In the DC US it is also still very much theater for the sheeple, but also, as always, a form of adulation. Adulation, and giving them a sense of "legitimacy," is why you have campaigns like that highlighted in the article and why even in Soviet Russia they would have "elections."
But then comes the "vote" of "illegitimacy" like your friend does--Actively not voting is a vote against them.
I like to focus on the "accessory to a crime" angle so as to get people thinking about voting and what it may or may not mean. I like that you asked and are thinking about it and what it means to you. More power to you.
For a start, your vote - at least in determining who gets into power - has no weight whatsoever (unless you are in a truly split-down-the-middle constituency... and what's the likelihood of that? The incumbents don't gerrymander for nothing).
The problem with voting in a Majoritarian democracy* is that it suggests you accept the whole Majoritarian thesis - that a government that has been 'duly elected' can pretty much do whatever it likes. Any vote (unless it's for a party with a very small-State manifesto) acts as confirmation that you believe the 'people' should be able to create tyranny.
*Yes, I know the US is supposed to be a democratic constitutional Republic, but I think we can all agree it isn't that any longer - the 'democrats' have won.
Thanks for the response (s-below also).
I just hate to think that the possibility of sweeping changes in .guv are impossible working within the existing framework. By all of us bowing out, are we not allowing it to continue? We are already completely outnumbered by those that will accept the system and whatever is done to/by/for them. I would think (hope?) that by getting a third party at least a small foothold (which I assume was what people who voted for 'tea partiers' were trying to accomplish) in the system some change may be possible. Without that, barring social upheaval, we brand ourselves outcasts and our voices mean nothing unless we are loudly spreading the word.
What about local politics? Do you feel the same way?
Local politics are gone as well.
As for some third-party candidate, just go and watch what they did to Ron Paul during the last election.
No they whole "system" is criminally in violation of the Constitution and corrupt to the core. and will need tossed. Or put another way, they now have gulags, NDAA and "kill-lists."
The reason for the "Four Rs" is to try to focus people on what needs to be done and how to accomplish it. Rejection is the passive resistance stage where people stop paying, obeying and playing and as a result the whole edifice of violence and theft will come tumbling down. Revolution is because they won't go quietly and non-violently into the night, so we need to prepare for the battle that they will bring. Retribution is so that the criminals are held responsible and are also cleansed from the system. And most importantly, Restoration is the ultimate goal. The main idea is not necessarily the Restoration of the Constitutional republic, but the Restoration of the rule of law, and the Constitution, like it or not, is the current "law of the land." We can debate changes after, but if we let debates over changes infect us now, they will win because we will be divided.
See you on the battlefield, as I'm not going "camping."
Do you have any links that may help one out on the first R?
I was and still am a fan of RP. His name did not get on the ballot here, and I was disappointed that he ended up endorsing the Constitutional Party, and not the LP.
My locale is hopelessly lost due to its proximity to DC, but where we plan to be in a few years will be remote enough that 'local' politics will have an entirely new meaning. I doubt that our future neighbors (the plan is very similar to Cog Dis) will have the same views as myself, but there will not be the same outside influence.
Yes, you answered your question.
The notion we, as free thinking hooman beans, need a leader is an idea launched, nurtured and promoted by people who think they should be leader. And somehow, magically, these assclowns end up as the leaders.
Not voting is the first step in breaking the game because your vote implies you will consent to the decision of the voters because the majority rules. What is hard to know, however, is what is the true opinion of the "majority". If you are out-voted, you assume there are more that disagree so you skulk off, dejected, worried about the sanity of your fellow man. But the truth may be that the actual majority agrees with you!
This is why the elite scumbags hate referendums. These things can get out of their control. If they pass and jeopardize the power structure, they send in the lawyers and judges to get it thrown out.
Look up something known as the Delphi Method developed by the Rand Corp. This is how everyone is controlled by our fearless dickheads in .guv. Not because the gov is smarter than everyone else, mainly because the average joe is not aware he is being scammed.
A random search result for "delphi method"
https://unifiedserenity.wordpress.com/2012/09/21/delphi-technique/
update: From that page, this a good one:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=omjnTSctsjs#t=336
What happens when you a rig an election and no one shows up to vote or at least the voters you need to legitimize your agenda doesn't show up?
There is no hiding the intentions at that point.
What is even more ironic is the same policies these assclowns are pushing are creating the very apathy they are trying to counter and in turn so real truthiness is being exposed with voteman in his actions there. Cause and effect.
It maybe satire/humor etc but the intentions of voteman and how he deals with it betrays real intentions.
Europe is soooooooo edgy (Beard-woman, Voteman). What comes next? Oh I know the legalization of Cocaine (basically London is quite close there). /Sarc
From an extremely happy non-voting South European.
Which country you from? Portugal, Spain, Greece, Cyprus, Malta?
All EU countries that received endless amoount of EU money, especially Greece and Spain, and are now basket cases.
Guess who payed for all of that?
Yes the Germans, the French, the British, the Italians, the Dutch. They are the top 5 biggest contributors to EU budget.
http://www.money-go-round.eu/Year.aspx?year=0
Every one likes to make fun of the Italians, when they are a net contributor to the EU budget.
They also have the lowest external debt per capita compared to the rest of the Big 5.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_external_debt
You missed off these beauties:
Getting a blow job. Can't say I blame the girls. Who would kiss that mouth ????
Voting just legitimizes a corrupt system.
VOTE DIEBOLD FOR PRESIDENT.
Fucking assholes.
Anyways it took me a while but I finally caught on. I don't vote, and I won't.
Decapitating someone is not likely to improve their voting record
When are we going to get electronic voting on all issues -
ie. You have one week to vote on this via a computer.......
we have the tech - use it and ask the people what they want.....simple yes or no answers.
Ah yes, Denmark
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taxation_in_Denmark
Each Dane is liable for 100,000 USD in debt to external creditors
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_external_debt
I'm not promoting apathy, but if you don't care, it's fine if you don't vote (think about it).
No, if you care, don't vote. You think there is a difference between a democrat and a republican???
Why would anyone vote for the size of their chains?
Maybe the vote is really for how much fur is on the chains
I stopped voting. Fuck voting...
? Mark Twain
They let you ELECT anyone you want, they just won't let you SELECT anyone you want.
Dick Gregory
Speaking of voting, why no coverage of the Indian elections?
A very large elephant just entered the room, yet no one seems to have noticed.
Wait a minute! Does this suggest I get blown more as Voteman? Dude I am so in!
People that want to rule other people are sociopaths and demonic entities.
Jesus proved that point when He did not come to be an earthly prince of the Jews and when the evil one failed with the temptation of making Jesus the emperor of the world.
Good people never want to rule over others. Never. If someone says he is in politics because "he cares for the common man", he is lying through his teeth.
Yes Ron Paul included.
Once people understand this, the logical conclusion is that politicians are sociopaths, and so voting for them, only means you legitimize oppression and sociopathy.
Stupid people that vote and then get fucked by the "powers that be" deserve no sympathy.
I couldn't decide whether it was better to up-arrow or down-arrow your comment, so I did neither.
What we need to do is amend the constitution. All canidates, 3 boxes on the ballot.
YES
NO
GUILLOTINE
If you get the chance, watch BORGEN.
I am sure their writers would have never dreamed of something so absurd.
Voteman. Sounds Jewish.
"Using Sex & Violence To Get Out The Vote For EU Elections"
omw.
:)