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The United States Of Secrets

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Hardly a day goes by without some new revelation regarding the US surveillance leviathan's reach. In the following (part 1 of a 2-part series), PBS' FrontLine reveals the dramatic inside story of how the U.S. government came to monitor and collect the communications of millions of people around the world - and the lengths they went to trying to hide the massive surveillance program from the public. From 9/11 to Edward Snowden and on to NSA reform - what must be done... a must-watch for all US citizens (if they can spare some time away from The Voice or Flappy Birds).



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Sat, 05/17/2014 - 19:43 | 4770243 LetThemEatRand
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"They hate us for our Freedoms" was actually a true statement.  But "they" were not the terr'ists.  

Sat, 05/17/2014 - 19:48 | 4770252 g'kar
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So true.

Sat, 05/17/2014 - 20:01 | 4770274 ZerOhead
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Damn... things will never be the same... we have become mainstream.

Sat, 05/17/2014 - 20:07 | 4770285 Anusocracy
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When your only tool is control, everything gets controlled.

Sat, 05/17/2014 - 20:23 | 4770315 knukles
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Just so there's no misunderstandings, peasants...

Sat, 05/17/2014 - 20:38 | 4770326 ZerOhead
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Say... does anyone other than me get a feeling that the documentary is a propaganda exercise to get the message out before the final Snowdon story from Greenwald? And speaking of Greenwald... I am very uncertain about who exactly he is working for these days...

Then again I could be wrong...

Sat, 05/17/2014 - 20:44 | 4770343 Ignatius
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I'm less than 20 minutes in and it's a BIG sales job for the official narrartive for 9/11.

They did mention again that Cheney was IMMEDIATELY taken to the PEOC (which Cheney described as "down the stairs, through some doors, and down some more stairs") which would have him there by atleast 9:15 (9:03 2nd twr hit) where Minetta SWORE he saw him at 9:20.

To borrow Nuland's quote, but speaking of Ukraine "we gotta glue this thing."

The Commission said he entered PEOC at 9:58... yeah.  /s

Sat, 05/17/2014 - 20:55 | 4770372 TeamDepends
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Saudis are born Top Guns.

Sat, 05/17/2014 - 22:03 | 4770485 UnpatrioticHoarder
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oh joy a two hour documentary from the Ponderous Broadcasting Service

Sat, 05/17/2014 - 23:32 | 4770661 weburke
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desperate to annoy americans enough to start shooting, totally controlled media are exposing specific "truths" but of course not revealing anything off the list. as if we had a free media. they need totally armed americans to start responding to the war against them. well, there are certainly fights going on, but you dont hear about them. some delta guys revolted after team 6 were killed. but, best if no one does. 

Mon, 05/19/2014 - 11:32 | 4773794 Kobe Beef
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The whole narrative docudrama from PBS centered on the "Agony of the Lawyers." It was legal, it wasn't legal. The Times would print, the Times wouldn't print. The FISA court, the "Upper Deck" of the Agency, the race to Ashcroft's bedside, the spy-like meeting in Kowloon, blood on your hands, etc. John LeCarre is a better writer of bureaucratic processing.

Nice work of narrative fiction, PBS. It would assuredly convince anyone who has not been following 9/11 and the New World Order. 

Since no Mossad agents have been outed, all communications remain monitored, and Washington DC has not yet been burned to the ground, the facts on the ground remain. The Federal government is occupied territory, engaged in a war against the American people, their army of Staffers and Lawyers will declare whatever actions taken legal, and the Mockingbird Press will report whatever the Puppet Masters deem necessary.


Sat, 05/17/2014 - 22:28 | 4770525 mccvilb
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Excerpted from


"To quote GTI’s comments after I’d first posted:

[Greenwald] made a subtle pivot from “strategy to undermine anticapitalist country” to “damaging the internet.”

[He] might as well have complained that the CIA using exploding cigars to kill Castro undermined the quality of cigars.

Like much of what Greenwald does, it’s so stupid and short-sighted, it’s cringe-inducing, but no doubt USAID and its billionaire partners appreciate it."

Sun, 05/18/2014 - 12:26 | 4771377 Cathartes Aura
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lol, thanks for bringing ohtarzie's blog to the light. . . I've been embedding the link here for a while, subversively drawing the flies to the honeypot. . .

some brilliant stuff 'n' snark in the commentary threads, and good history-threads dating back to the "first episode" of the GreenWald rise to Fame 'n' Fortune.

here's another, for perspectives.

Sat, 05/17/2014 - 21:51 | 4770467 Cathartes Aura
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is just another narrative thread tying the storyline together.

for folks who like that sort of thing.

and he's making bank, eh.

AND movie-rights!  I smell an Osssscar!!


Sat, 05/17/2014 - 22:39 | 4770537 ZerOhead
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I think you may be right. Plus he appears to have been consumed by his own ego lately. When they get that way they are usually ripe for the picking

Thanks for the heads-up on this the other day.

So any chance that Snowden is for real?  (Please say yes)

Sat, 05/17/2014 - 23:33 | 4770639 Cathartes Aura
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he's got the Pulitzer & the Guardian newsy-servicing, plus he's hanging with Vlad. . .

your call.

but it's all a bit to hero-ick and episode-ick for my tastes, as I've said, it's like TeeVee drama, with cliff-hangers, etc.

if this were truth, we'd not be getting a Sony movie deal - this is HollyWood.

you know it in your heart, *nods*


plus:  GG is a white jewish lawyer - remind me again why we trust this demographic?  then there's Omidyar. . .

Sat, 05/17/2014 - 23:53 | 4770690 ZerOhead
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Omydar was the light bulb coming on for me... nothing says one of "them" better than a self serving NGO or two.

And deep down in his DNA... after he hangs up his bejeweled scepter... Vlad definitely will be one of them.

Sun, 05/18/2014 - 00:09 | 4770727 Cathartes Aura
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the way Vlad has been *pitched* - manly Man, vs. various other "wussy" nationstate leaders, yeah. . . add the "restoring the religion, no gheys, traditional values" retro-50's stylee - might as well call him Zorro, give him a TeeVee show.

since I don't pick faves when it comes to global state-farms, preferring to circle from above when watching the game play out, I wouldn't be surprised if ALL the current storyline is intentional, right down to the memes "leaked" and the daily "ramping up" of the pre-war stories. . . we know they have mercenaries & other off-the-radar shit stirrers - seriously,

what is True any more?

if the goal is to see the current nationstates crumble, why not create some wars, bring out the scary weapons. . . get the people so terrorised that they BEG for a new Heroic Leader to bring a PeaceFull-World, order'd.

"interesting times"  is the curse, eh.

take care kitty.


Sun, 05/18/2014 - 00:27 | 4770739 ZerOhead
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True? not a lot to be sure.

Well the Bard did warn us ... "All the world is a stage..."

I just wish I knew the rationale behind the writing of the scenes to the play these days. They are simply awful.

Later Gator

Sun, 05/18/2014 - 00:29 | 4770756 Cathartes Aura
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well, whoever's writing the scenes sure ain't gettin' them published on First Look Media    *click for giggles*

research'd & snark.


Sun, 05/18/2014 - 07:56 | 4771011 medium giraffe
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I said it was bullshit. I did.  You believe a single damned thing that comes out of that electronic bullshitter in the corner of your living room?


'Can't you see this is a land of confusion" - Phil Collins


Sun, 05/18/2014 - 10:58 | 4771192 scrappy
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Here's something a bit ahead of the pack of vampires for ZH readers: (Great Picture of Grandpa Munster!)

A May 5 article on The American Interest website reads, “Vampiric Boomers to Steal Millennials’ Blood.” The article references a study that shows blood from young mice helped neurons in the brains of old mice sprout new connections. The article alleges that over the years, “boomers have sucked millennials dry financially in all sorts of ways.” Now, it says, boomers could be out for millennials’ blood. This “us-versus-them” mentality is a manifestation of social mood.

Find out more by clicking here

Faces May Reveal Social Mood
Chapter 14 of The Wave Principle of Human Social Behavior (1999) lists many behaviors and emotions that people tend to display in response to social mood. Let’s look at the two poles of one of those categories, “Confidence versus Fear.”

Here’s a snapshot of FDR & Co. in 1933 as they signed Glass-Steagall [below], which separated the financial sector into safer, deposit-taking commercial banks and risk-taking investment banks.

And of course this trend:

There you go, now we are edgy again.

Have a great day :-)






Sun, 05/18/2014 - 04:36 | 4770929 Hydesrevenge
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Sounds like Czechoslovakia 1948

Sun, 05/18/2014 - 08:15 | 4771028 The_Dude
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Had the same thought the other day.....if Ukraine was part of the act that Vlad and Obuma agreed during their infamous open mic. to (or were instructed to) start the world moving toward a new East-West alignment that will provide them cover to pull the rug out from underneath the financial system.

Question is how destructive the next scene needs to be to bring about the re-ailignment and put the US in its new position and how many dual-citizens it will take.

Sun, 05/18/2014 - 04:31 | 4770927 Hydesrevenge
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The sad truth is that we are at a point that we ask this question. I have to admit that I am doing the same thing, we will se what is in part two. I think its important to understand the initial minipulation of anyone who opposed this action by fear of being responsible for another 9/11. That manipulation, as the political class circles the wagons around the NSA, has turned to Obama claiming that most Americans are more concerned with another terror attack then this program. Meanwhile it has only been used to further distance the political class from thier constituents. honestly does anyone even believe parties matter anymore?

Mon, 05/19/2014 - 11:37 | 4773821 Kobe Beef
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honestly does anyone even believe parties matter anymore?

Yes. The livestock believes it. Therefore the show will go on, and they will remain livestock.

Sat, 05/17/2014 - 20:38 | 4770340 g'kar
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I'm fucked.

Sat, 05/17/2014 - 21:25 | 4770351 ZerOhead
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Oh yes we are !!!

The important thing to do now is to immediately start searching for gay/tranny porn on Google (accept no substitutes) and text your friends often about how horrifically frightening you think Supermodels look... oh... and how you would ABSOLUTELY DIE if one ever had her way with you... not to mention 3 or 4....

If properly employed this tactic will guarantee THE BEST TIME OF YOUR LIFE when they begin to employ tortu.... errr... enhanced interogation techniques on you in the FEMA camp... ;)

(I would hope they are merely looking for real security threats but then again one never knows just how deep this rabbithole goes anymore...)

Sun, 05/18/2014 - 21:55 | 4772521 TheReplacement
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Why do so many people talk about FEMA camps as if they intend to surrender and go willingly?

Sat, 05/17/2014 - 21:17 | 4770416 holdbuysell
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Everyone is, judging by that list, as it covers just about everyone. Except, 'they', of course. :)


Sun, 05/18/2014 - 14:35 | 4771602 Keyser
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Anyone that posts on ZH is probably on 3 or 4 lists, if that is any solace... 

Sun, 05/18/2014 - 10:07 | 4771115 stant
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#73 everybody south of the Ohio river

Sat, 05/17/2014 - 20:05 | 4770283 holdbuysell
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If I get your drift, LTER:

They = Sheople

Us = Oligarchs

Sat, 05/17/2014 - 20:08 | 4770287 g'kar
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No. Read it again.

Sat, 05/17/2014 - 20:11 | 4770294 LetThemEatRand
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It's okay.  He's dyslexic, but got the drift did he.

Sat, 05/17/2014 - 20:13 | 4770295 g'kar
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It is an important point to get.

Sat, 05/17/2014 - 20:23 | 4770313 holdbuysell
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Actually you may be right gk.

I interpreted bush as saying:

The sheople hate the oligarchs for their freedoms, as he's one of the 'us'.

But what you are saying is that bush, not being in the oligarch status, is saying:

The oligarchs hate the sheople for their freedoms.

If so, yes, I did miss the point.

Which is it?

Sat, 05/17/2014 - 20:30 | 4770321 LetThemEatRand
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1.  9/11 was not orchestrated by any sheep.  

2.  Bush was an oligarch puppet with a belt buckle rallying the sheeple against a fake enemy.

3.  Bush is an oligarch.  His daddy was head of the CIA.

4.  Of course it's that the oligarchs hate the sheeple for their freedoms.

What is your point?


Sat, 05/17/2014 - 20:53 | 4770371 holdbuysell
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Thanks, LTER. Was dyslexic as you called out, causing the whole thread waterfall and confusion.

My bad.

Sat, 05/17/2014 - 20:58 | 4770382 LetThemEatRand
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We're all in this together.  Except for "them", of course.

Sat, 05/17/2014 - 21:04 | 4770389 ZerOhead
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I hate "them".

Although I must admit I would like to become one of "them" someday... perferably soon... with some Supermodels on the side please and thank you ...

Sat, 05/17/2014 - 21:11 | 4770403 holdbuysell
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Are you aware of the Nephilim vs. Human conflict (as related to the thirteen families) theme that is discussed in some circles? Some of this research is rather murky that it takes a while to dig through. Credible sources appreciated.


Sat, 05/17/2014 - 20:35 | 4770330 g'kar
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Maybe, but it is top notch stuff.

Sat, 05/17/2014 - 20:28 | 4770322 FeralSerf
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I thought GWB was lying when he said that.

I just didn't understand that "They" were the TPTB and "us" were us peons.

Sat, 05/17/2014 - 21:53 | 4770469 disabledvet
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"Lies...and the lying liars that tell them."

I mean c'mon...this story is really insulting for all the conspiracy folks.

Only the NSA was in the dark?
If true...why is that so?
And what does "top deck" mean again?

This story strikes me as very limited in both scope and vision...pretty standard fare...with a lot of parsing in need of doing.

First does Snowden (as laden) just "appear" again?

I mean everything and everyone is compartmentalized...which strikes me as very much "pre-9/11." After that the entire story follows a fairly predictable path.

Sat, 05/17/2014 - 20:36 | 4770335 buzzsaw99
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actually, "they" hate us for our freedoms AND "they" are the terrorists too

Sat, 05/17/2014 - 21:59 | 4770479 Rakshas
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Exactly buzzsaw........

..... to paraphrase and twist one from "Roger Kint" - "The greatest trick the devil ever pulled was convincing the world he didn't exist"

The puppet masters have been perpetrating the greatest destraction in history for the past 2 and a half decades now rolling out pictures and videos of bearded guys running around a jungle jim playground while actually describing the ongoing deeds of and telling us to buy another car or a bigger house...... so the beared bastards don't win..... fuck me

Sat, 05/17/2014 - 21:04 | 4770393 Greenskeeper_Carl
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i forget who said it, and this is kind of a paraphrase:

"im sick of hearing about how the rest of the world hates us for our freedoms. Its the democrats and republicans who hate us for our freedoms. the rest of the world hates us because of our democrats and republicans"


dont remember who it was, but truer words have not been spoken.

Sat, 05/17/2014 - 19:43 | 4770244 lordbyroniv
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1 hour 54 minutes and 12 seconds?




thx for the homework Tyler



Sat, 05/17/2014 - 19:49 | 4770258 James_Cole
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It's so well done you won't notice the time. 

Sat, 05/17/2014 - 19:58 | 4770271 Colonel Walter ...
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^^^^ What he said. Watched it Tuesday night on the telly.

Sat, 05/17/2014 - 20:24 | 4770316 Flagit
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I dunno, not sure how they packed 16 years of fraud into under 2 hours.

Someone better call Bruckheimer for a trilogy.

2016 Beverly Hills Cop 4 (announced)

2015 Bad Boys 3 (producer) (announced)

National Treasure 3 (producer) (announced)

Pirates of the Caribbean 6 (producer) (announced)


Is Peter Jackson done with LOTR yet?

Sat, 05/17/2014 - 21:27 | 4770430 BigJim
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Wait til you see what he does with The Simarilion! That must be good for, oh, 50-60 movies.

Sat, 05/17/2014 - 22:38 | 4770539 mccvilb
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"I dunno, not sure how they packed 16 years of fraud into under 2 hours."


OMFW. Its a codec.

Sat, 05/17/2014 - 19:46 | 4770251 knukles
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The Constitution specifically delineates the powers allowed to the Federal Government.
Of which to withhold any information, secrets from the public, was not amongst those enumerated.
In fact, any reader of the Federalist Papers will understand that such was an underlying principle to the rights of free speech, assembly, etc.

The Feds were never meant to be able to have secrets.
Period, end of fucking conversation.

Sat, 05/17/2014 - 20:00 | 4770270 LetThemEatRand
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The problem is that when the Constitution was written, the U.S. was a rag tag group of colonists who just defeated the greatest army in the world, and figured there was more war to come.  So they vested the Executive with certain powers in the event of a crisis, which have been interpreted (too) broadly by the Court full of political animals called Supreme Court Justices.  The People have the responsibility of ensuring that elected representatives and the Judges they appoint don't bastardize the Constitution to suit the goals of the (now) shadow Kings and Queens.  We fell down on that job before you and I were born.  The solution is elusive because the media is owned by the shadow Kings and Queens, and most people can't recite a word of the Constitution.  

Sat, 05/17/2014 - 20:08 | 4770288 potato
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what do you mean?? All the kids know the Constitution by heart.

"I pledge allegiance, to the flag, ...."


Sat, 05/17/2014 - 20:27 | 4770320 Flagit
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NO, dumbass.

"Fore score and seven years ago..."

Sun, 05/18/2014 - 10:21 | 4771132 Mad Muppet
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no, No, NO! It's " I pledge obediance to the Fag..."

Sun, 05/18/2014 - 19:44 | 4772175 Flagit
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That just gave me a Calvin & Hobbes flashback.

"I pledge allegiance to Queen Frag, and her mighty State of Hysteria."

Sat, 05/17/2014 - 20:16 | 4770299 NidStyles
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I defintely would not say that those "rag tags" defeated the greatest army on earth when that greatest army was actually in India fighting to keep those trade lanes open.

Those "rag tags" were fighting what would be considered our reserves at best. The majority of the troops they fought were conscripts with little to no training, and most of them were not even English. 


So sure, you can beat that drum all you want, but the truth of the matter is that the English simply were concerned about the loss of trade with the US. India was far more valuable then.

Sat, 05/17/2014 - 20:20 | 4770308 OC Sure
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The French and drunken Hessians played their role too.

We were victors of circumstance!

Sat, 05/17/2014 - 20:21 | 4770309 LetThemEatRand
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I'm pretty sure the ocean in a time when transporting troops over the ocean was a bit difficult was also a factor, but I'm really not sure what any of this has to do with the point I was making.  What, are you an English guy who is still pissed over this?  I'm starting to understand you, now.

Sat, 05/17/2014 - 20:37 | 4770332 NidStyles
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I'm a medically retired US Infantryman. 

I know a little bit about military operations and history. 


You think the ship voyage across the Atlantic was longer than navigating to India? I find that more than just a little bit amusing. The Crown was more insterested in keeping India in the fold than the colonies, and it's a wonder you haven't spent the time you waste on ZH learning more history instead of flapping your gums on things you obviously know nothing about like you do is so many other threads as well. 


It's not like the information is not available to you at this very second. 

Sat, 05/17/2014 - 21:52 | 4770385 LetThemEatRand
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So you disagree that transporting troops across the Atlantic was a factor in the defeat of the English by the Americans?  Like always, you seem to see the world in an either/or scenario.  Either the English lost because of the India occupation, or they lost because of the Atlantic crossing to America.  Whereas I said the Atlantic crossing was also a factor.   The obvious truth is that it was both.   There were other factors as well, which all conspired to cause England to lose the war with the Colonies.  You may know how to read history, but you may want to work on actually understanding it.  Or you could go back to your Mises of Canada website, which -- like you -- isn't concerned with such things.  

So why did you join?  To fight for the MIC?

Sat, 05/17/2014 - 23:45 | 4770684 Agstacker
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I'll bet you're in the big book of british smiles...

Sun, 05/18/2014 - 00:02 | 4770705 LetThemEatRand
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The big book of toothy smiles.  Fucking royalty.  Fuck royalty.  

Sat, 05/17/2014 - 20:16 | 4770303 OC Sure
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"We fell down on that job before you and I were born."

You are soooo right. The republic was not kept and "the people" became so corrupted beginning generations ago. "We" fell down. Now, its time that "we" stand up.

"I think a general Government necessary for us, and there is no form of Government but what may be a blessing to the people if well administered, and believe farther that this is likely to be well administered for a course of years, and can only end in Despotism, as other forms have done before it, when the people shall become so corrupted as to need despotic Government, being incapable of any other." - Ben Franklin; speech before signing of the Constitution, 1787

Sat, 05/17/2014 - 20:31 | 4770327 Flagit
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They then put those faces on the money. The money that they soo desperately tried to fight.

Sat, 05/17/2014 - 20:38 | 4770337 FeralSerf
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The American People have always believed their news "services". The problem was, and is, they just don't seem to understand who those news services belong to and support.

The news services do NOT serve the people. They serve the ones that own the people.

Sat, 05/17/2014 - 21:02 | 4770392 potato
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On our shoulders we bear the ponderance of cowardice and the machinations of tyrrany bequeathed to us by past generations.

Sat, 05/17/2014 - 21:17 | 4770417 sleigher
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"We fell down on that job before you and I were born."


This is why every time I am drunk I call my mom and yell at her.  :D

Sat, 05/17/2014 - 20:46 | 4770350 OC Sure
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For anyone interested, those powers are enumerated in Article I, Section 8. These are the only 17 powers that the Federal government gets from the Constitution.  Anything else is an abuse and usurpation and that train is rather very, very, long.

 Per Amendment 10, anything that is not those 17 powers resides with the states or the people themselves. This is ignored. I call it the invisible amendment. You have to squint, blink several times,  and rub your eyes when you read it like, "wait, is that really there?"

Mon, 05/19/2014 - 11:42 | 4773846 Kobe Beef
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As the PBS docudrama makes clear, it's all legal because federal lawyers say so.


Sun, 05/18/2014 - 06:59 | 4770989 Tompooz
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Knuk, those who are "framing this debate" will argue that, if the program is unconstitutional, an amendment of the Constitution is in order to make it constitutional. Opponents will be intimidated. The main argument trotted out will be that "the people ask to be protected" (from the bogeyman) 

Sat, 05/17/2014 - 19:50 | 4770260 kurt
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Oh, This is Going to be good!

Isn't he the asshole from W's administration?

Go on...

Sat, 05/17/2014 - 20:05 | 4770276 Son of Captain Nemo
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More from the "United States of Secrets"!...

From the "Palmetto State" the one that gave you mustard sauce for your BBQ pork ribs and a blackmailed "closet faggot/pedophile" of a U.S. Senator that has no choice but to embrace the State of Israel who is more than likely helping him with the final solution to the homeless problem in his "own State"...

If true, this is the humble beginnings to the systematic herding of the sheeple to their new FEMA habitats.  This also represents a natural extension to our burgeoning prison business which has no equal in the world in the number of per capita incarcerations...

Why should we be at all surprised with what we are witnessing with the markets and the brink of our own government starting a World War!


Sat, 05/17/2014 - 20:04 | 4770280 km4
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Not a secret but Why America's middle-class housing crunch is here to stay:

Sat, 05/17/2014 - 20:09 | 4770290 Ignatius
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I used to trust and respect NOVA and FRONTLINE until I saw their treatments on 9/11.

Go to 21:25 and watch for just 30 seconds and see NOVA's animation of the construction of the towers.  They depict the vertical columns as free standing without cross bracing and have them in motion like tall grass:

Hard to say how that deception was not deliberate attempt to deceive.

That said, I'll watch this vid based on the ZH recommendation.

Sat, 05/17/2014 - 20:20 | 4770310 Joebloinvestor
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Do some more digging and look how the NFL concussion program was pulled.

Sat, 05/17/2014 - 20:42 | 4770347 FeralSerf
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Ditto, The Scientific American!

They're all captured by some members of TPTB. It's up to us to figure out where the truth lies, if there is any truth to what they say.

Sat, 05/17/2014 - 21:02 | 4770391 22winmag
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The ultimate 9/11 fake-umentary was the Popular Mechanics hit piece about the "collapse". Look it up.

Sat, 05/17/2014 - 22:02 | 4770486 Ignatius
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I know... I try not to be too vulgar on ZH.

Where did you find the strength to even name them?

Sat, 05/17/2014 - 21:43 | 4770441 Son of Captain Nemo
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I saw that one as well and thanks for posting it.

Here's why FRONTLINE and NOVA are worthless -even when they attempt to be truthful which always comes far too late and never telling the whole story.  PBS did show AE 9/11 Truth's Experts Speak Out on some selected broadcasts around the Nation which had enormous success -but why the hell wouldn't they be allowed to air it in all 50 States?

Here is one from the Guardian that is worth the read but it simply proves that without the public raising the stakes for change the justice system in this Country will simply continue to look the other way and take the money until anger is sufficient enough to alter it's course.

9/11 is the lynchpin of all lynchpins as it created the state of emergency and everything that followed which handed the NSA it's unlimited powers and along with others in the intelligence community and the DoD, and why their have been no activist judges and lawyers willing to take the risks to sue the Federal Government for the fraud committed in Commission Report 13 years later is without equal in our history. 

As long as the official narrative of 9/11 is allowed to stay without justice being served, the big banks, big oil and big military which is at the heart of this Country's corruption will only continue. But what good does it do anyone when you have a justice system comprised of a rigged bench of judges at every level of the circuit court(s) all the way up to the belly of the beast that is the Supremes that habitually violate their oaths because they've either been paid off or have been compromised?

I'm of the opinion that after what has taken place within the last year alone -first with Syria and now Ukraine the window of opportunity to make it cease has pretty much eclipsed.


Sat, 05/17/2014 - 23:32 | 4770648 mccvilb
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If you truly believed that you'd have given up long ago, son, and from where I sit you haven't, not by a longshot. Right here, right now. This is our moment and our duty, to protect and defend the Constitution and its amendments. It's time for another Constitutional Congress, but not with this sorry bunch of legislative hacks in situ.

Sat, 05/17/2014 - 20:10 | 4770291 Goldilocks
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Sat, 05/17/2014 - 20:57 | 4770377 Emergency Ward
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-- Blue Cheer, 1968, "Summertime Blues"

-- Blue Cheer, 1967 demo version, grunge and crunch version

Sat, 05/17/2014 - 20:10 | 4770292 bugs_
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Sat, 05/17/2014 - 21:41 | 4770452 Cathartes Aura
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did you get promoted to picture-poster-rank?


Sun, 05/18/2014 - 13:44 | 4771540 bugs_
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i may have had it all along i just didn't know how to do it - drupaling is hard.

Sat, 05/17/2014 - 20:16 | 4770302 Atomizer
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It comes down to polical credibility. They still think eco hotel towels will cover their carbon tax exchange mark. It's a much bigger picture. Don't be fooled. 

Sat, 05/17/2014 - 20:19 | 4770306 Joebloinvestor
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I hope the program puts to rest the MYTH that they do not collect content.

Sat, 05/17/2014 - 22:18 | 4770508 El Vaquero
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Dude, a US attorney in Florida had to drop a massive drug trafficing case because the DEA's Special Operations Division told her that they made the bust because of a tip, and she later found out that the tip was from the NSA.  The cocksuckers are using the NSA for domestic law enforcement.  They even have briefings on how to "reconstruct" the investigation to support the arrest.  You don't need this program to know that, just like the Bluffdale center in Utah made it very clear that the NSA was doing a lot more than was claimed when some of the numbers surrounding its size and power usage were released.  The only thing in question is the degree to which they monitor content, but that they monitor content is not in question.  

Sat, 05/17/2014 - 20:27 | 4770319 Das Capitalist
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I mean, I'm not a fan of The Voice or Flappy Birds, but that jab at the end really adds nothing.

Sat, 05/17/2014 - 20:34 | 4770331 ramacers
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who needs 155 minutes to "get it" ? either the blood gets spilled to turn it around or it doesn't.

Sat, 05/17/2014 - 20:37 | 4770338 grunk
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I stalk you because I love you.

Sat, 05/17/2014 - 20:47 | 4770363 messystateofaffairs
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The whole premise of this MSM "rationalization" rests on the "fact" that NSA did the spying because vice president (Cheney) wanted to prevent another 911 type incident. Problem is, as aware people know, Cheney was one of the architects of 911.

I wonder if they are letting out the spying on purpose to acclimatize the sheeple to being spied on. This is an "the end justifies the means" piece. After all they are just sheeple and have nothing to hide. Get ready for precrime laws. The video is just a higher level of MSM misinformation. 

This "program" will stand, it is part of the plan, and the sheeple are busy watching the voice.

Mon, 05/19/2014 - 11:45 | 4773854 Kobe Beef
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Sat, 05/17/2014 - 21:08 | 4770397 El Vaquero
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I've not made it through the whole thing yet, but Hayden really is making himself look like an asshole and it really highlights just how much of an evil genius Cheney is.  But then again, we already knew he was an evil genius after the guy who he shot in the face apologized to him on national television for putting his face where Cheney was shooting.

Sat, 05/17/2014 - 21:08 | 4770398 Robot Traders Mom
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How much has been released that we didn't basically already know? The US Govt is basically spying on us and monitoring our every move? Yeah, everybody with an IQ over 50 already knew that. How many high-ranking US (or Israeli) officials have been fired or forced to resign? Pretty sure it is ZERO. It wouldn't surprise me if he was an Op sent to give Russia a flash drive filled with bad info/disinfo. Does the media EVER focus on truth? If Snowden was important, we would know and hear very little about and from him.

Sat, 05/17/2014 - 21:10 | 4770402 teslaberry
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anything on frontline is not going to be informative to zerohedgers . 


there will be plenty of propoganda mixed into a frontline report. as frontline is core MSM . so really, if you're looking for truth, you don't find it on frontline. 

you find more spinning. 


Sat, 05/17/2014 - 21:14 | 4770409 Yen Cross
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  There's lot's of secrets with Manny, Moe & Jack running the shop!

Sun, 05/18/2014 - 12:16 | 4771349 1stepcloser
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Manny, Mao & Jack..

Sat, 05/17/2014 - 21:30 | 4770429 ThirdCoastSurfer
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If you can't watch the whole thing, at least skip ahead to about 1:30 for the story of Thomas Drake.

After arrest and confiscation of documents already in the public domain, an FBI agent (?) takes a pen and writes Top Secret and this holds up all the way to trial when the judge finally throws it out but no one is held accountable and Mr. Drake is ruined. 

Sat, 05/17/2014 - 21:30 | 4770434 q99x2
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Public Bull Shit. Conspiracy theorists. I didn't know Flappy Birds was on.

PBS must have been allowed to stir the pot for revolution because the DHS and FEDs are ready to attack the United States of America.

Bringing in the thieves. Bringing in the thieves.

We will come rejoicing bringing in the thieves.

Sat, 05/17/2014 - 21:42 | 4770455 ThirdCoastSurfer
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Watch this and you'll come to realize that: "Deez guys ain't no Dragons".

Sat, 05/17/2014 - 22:03 | 4770488 TNTARG
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Everytime the US gvt is absolutely exposed as what it is, a new movie comes on to "set the truth". This one reminds me "Too big to fail" movie.

"We had to bailout the big banks".

"We had to spy on everybody".

"We had to invade Afghanistan, Irak".

"We had to destroy Libya"

"Alice in Wonderland" and so on.

No shit! 

"The Ministry of Truth" industry in action. Soon on HBO!

I didn't expect this on ZH. However...

Sat, 05/17/2014 - 22:16 | 4770505 Yen Cross
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 The reason demographics are based on the 18-49 age group is because if you reach 50 you've seen all the bullshit recycled so many times you'ld rather shove the bar of soap up your own ass!

Sat, 05/17/2014 - 22:26 | 4770522 TNTARG
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"We had to bailout the big banks" (Too big to fail).

"We had to spy on everybody" (United States of Secrets). (I love "NSA was created... no more Pearl Harbor" bullshit).

"Some muslims did the 9/11" (United 93, just to make an example). How about "Dark Knight", that version of Batman?

"Take Shelter", by the way. So,

"We had to invade Afghanistan, Irak".

"Torture is needed". (Zero Dark Thirty among others)

Sat, 05/17/2014 - 22:18 | 4770504 indio007
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I don't even have to watch this to know it's a limited hang out

Mon, 06/02/2014 - 06:34 | 4816207 what's that smell
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911. nazi. 911. terror. 911. NSA. 911. death star. 911. global empire. 911. drone me. 911. usa. 911. 911. 911.

Sat, 05/17/2014 - 22:27 | 4770524 Son of Captain Nemo
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When you're finished with the "United States of Secrets" this is a great 20 minute program from Mike Rivero's "WhatRealyHappened" aptly named -"The Global Reset".

Well worth the watch.


Sat, 05/17/2014 - 23:38 | 4770596 Rakshas
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I couldn't get past the first 20 minutes of this puff piece, I mean I was literally suppressing a gag reflex with the whole 911 recap, no mention that Penis Cheney was overseeing  multiple war game exercises on the morn  or any number of other minor inconsistencies from the day ....... just another bullshit production ...... though as my mind raced, looking for an answer as to why out the NSA - bearing in mind the true extent of the information release thus far and the whole Pierre Omidyar-Greenwald connection I'm putting it down to TPTB firing off a burn notice on the NSA to direct and distract the sheep a while longer.  <edited>

........ what channel is flappy birds on again??

and in other news.....

Sun, 05/18/2014 - 11:30 | 4771249 disgruntled hou...
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I agree.  I really wanted to see this but it was ruined within minutes.  You have to wonder why they opened with this 9/11 b.s.  I have totally tuned out PBS. Corbett Report, Global Research, Boiling Frogs much better sources of info.  Greenwald's actions too somewhat suspect.  Why not give us all the info- what's with doling it out.  Perhaps he believes we can't handle the truth unless he writes a book to go along with it.  Even Zero Hedge is a an ABC outfit.  I suppose they collect our names and comments for big brother.  I think the whole point of the leak was to get us to self censor and set the stage for mass paranoia.  If they can keep us in the mind set of trusting no one and never speaking our mind online or even in our own homes (see the Sterling saga) it will keep us from forming any meaningful opposition.  Another youtube site is Suspicious0bserver.  The man made global warming mantra is just another control mechanism. Climate is changing but temperature and CO2 correlation has been broken.  The change is coming from solar magnetic fields weakening.  Check out his site. 

Sat, 05/17/2014 - 23:16 | 4770634 dumbStruck
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Obama's changing positions ... from standing and talking principles like a man prior to being elected to bent over afterwards.

Sun, 05/18/2014 - 09:43 | 4771086 therearetoomany...
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"from standing and talking principles like a man"


He was always talking like a typical leftist girly man.   "Ooo, it's unfair, I'll fix it.  Oh, that's not fair." 

Sun, 05/18/2014 - 01:16 | 4770806 Overdrawn
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Let's not forget Michael Hastings, because the few journalists who do try to tell the truth are prevented from doing so very quickly.  RIP

An alarming amount of money—some $3.3 trillion—spent on private military contractors since 9/11. But what rarely gets discussed, beyond the dollars wasted and the crimes committed by private war-profiteering corporations, is the pervasive, growing sense of domination of these mega-firms in the past decade that have solidified their rule over U.S. military and foreign policy decisions.

The question that Hastings’s unexplained death poses is whether those same private, militarized forces may be bringing the war home as they deploy technology and battlefield-honed tactics to ensure that deeper truths remain unseen — and that nothing threatens the bottom line.

Sun, 05/18/2014 - 09:42 | 4771085 therearetoomany...
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Propagandistic Bull Shit


Sun, 05/18/2014 - 11:12 | 4771215 Government need...
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The Federal government gets weaker with every fiat dollar conjured.  In an effort to maintain their power, they attempt to project strength through surveillance.  Nothing substitutes for the boots on the ground.  We'll be reminded of this again when the empire falls.


Sun, 05/18/2014 - 12:20 | 4771360 1stepcloser
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This Apparatus is in place to protect them from you.. Not you from "them", AL CIA ADA.  

Sun, 05/18/2014 - 23:18 | 4772683 AdvancingTime
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Thanks to information leaked by  Edward Snowden we know the "black budget" last year was a massive 52 billion dollars. This is the money used in "secret" spy operations, and it is enough to send shivers down the back of those that cherish privacy.

This is beginning to look like the society we have read about the totalitarian society of Oceania described in George Orwell's novel Nineteen Eighty-Four. In Orwell's novel, all citizens of Oceania are monitored by cameras and are fed fabricated news stories by the government. More on this subject in the article below.

Sat, 05/31/2014 - 20:04 | 4813412 shovelhead
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The Voice or Flappy Birds...

What are these?

I'll assume they're not old Moody Blues songs.

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