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Cisco CEO Warns Obama To Rein In NSA Or Face Collapse Of Trust In US Technology (And Cisco Sales)
Back in November, Cisco stock cratered after the company was forced to reset its future revenue guidance when as a result of crashing Chinese sales, it became clear that some $2 billion in quarterly revenue had been wiped away from the previous trendline.
Since then, Cisco has managed to regain some of the lost market value as investors have readjusted to what now appears to be a far slower growth rate for the company (a few days ago it reported $11.55 billion in revenue, $1 billion less than firms such as Goldman has expected it would reported as recently as 6 months ago).
However, one question remained - what was it that caused the collapse in sales, and especially those targeting the Chinese market.
For a long time, the most likely speculated reason for the Chinese revulsion against Cisco and its peers were the factual revelations by Edward Snowden detailing the NSA illicit espionage activities, and the role of corporations such as Cisco in them.
Today, this speculation is confirmed, following news that none other than Cisco CEO John Chambers has written a letter to Obama, "warning of a collapse of trust in US technology after evidence emerged showing the National Security Agency breaking into his company’s equipment."
As the Financial Times reports having seen a letter from the CSCO executive, John Chambers called for “standards of conduct” to rein in government surveillance so that national security objectives do not interfere with the US’s leading position in the global technology market.
Ironic that companies kept silent about their pseudo-symbiotic relationship with the US superspy agency, but it was only after billions in sales (and equity) were destroyed that the companies have finally decided to speak up. To wit:
The letter was dated the day after pictures circulated on the internet showing NSA staff opening boxes of Cisco gear so that the US security agency can monitor internet traffic after the equipment has been shipped to customers.
Mr Chambers complained that the NSA actions would undermine confidence among customers of US technology firms. A spokesperson for Cisco confirmed that its chief executive had sent the letter but declined to comment any further.
“We simply cannot operate this way, our customers trust us to be able to deliver to their doorsteps products that meet the highest standards of integrity and security,” the letter from Mr Chambers states.
There have been allegations that the NSA has intercepted IT equipment in transit from manufacturers to customers to help monitor and gain information on surveillance targets. The equipment modified by the NSA included routers, servers and other computer network devices exported from the US, according to the reports.
The NSA responded that “the implication that NSA’s foreign intelligence collection is arbitrary and unconstrained is false” but would not address specific incidences.
The letter from Cisco says that “if these allegations are true, these actions will undermine confidence in our industry and in the ability of technology companies to deliver products globally”.
So now that the blowback from the discovery of the mutually parasitic coexistence of the NSA and firms like Cisco has been laid out for the whole world to see, and especially China, what are the CEOs to do? Why engage in public spectacles of course, such as this one:
In his May 15 letter, Mr Chambers asked Mr Obama “to take more steps and a leadership role to ensure that guidelines and reforms are put into place that can be honoured across the globe”.
Mr Chambers said that confidence in the open, global internet has brought economic benefits to the US, but that this would be “eroded by revelations of government’s surveillance . . . and allegations that governments exploit rather than report security vulnerabilities”.
He added: “Absent a new approach where the industry plays a role, but in which you, Mr President, can lead, we are concerned that our country’s global technological leadership will be impaired. Moreover, the result could be a fragmented internet, where the promise of the next internet is never fully realised.”
We are confident Obama, whose international positioning in the world has never been weaker after one disastrous campaign in Syria and what is shaping up to be another disastrous campaign in Ukraine, will get right on it.
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File under: too late, bitch!
Don't buy it. China's economy is imploding. China has tons of its own knock offs for alternatives which they would prefer to buy. Game over for you Cisco!
Should've could've would've stepped up for privacy and freedom... credibility is now zero in government and big tech. Now watch and weep.
US Tech companies are running on borrowed time now thanks to the Spying thingy.
Imagine the nsa stopping the wonder bread trucks on the way to your grocery store and insertting tracking chips in each slice......what company ceo would let this happen?
Cisco deserves to get fucked
Today is Cisco's turn.
Next will be Google, Facebook, Twitter, etc. All US internet traffic will move offshore. Who needs this NSA bullshit?
Cisco, it's whats for breakfast Bitchez.
Too little, too late.
They may beat our CISCO down but at least we still have Twitter, Twerking, Duck Dynasty, and they'll never, ever take away or duplicate our very own Kim Kardashian!
Kim K ???
You can get a duplicate any day at Slutz-R-Us in the Mall.
/snark
Maybe not Kim K., but really close...
When major businesses secretly align their interests with those of government (the very definition of fascism), the reputations of both are eventually destroyed.
No government can safely be allowed any power of the law to prohibit public disclosure of its attempts to coerce individual citizens or businesses. It is government which must prove credibility of its behavior to the governed. Not the other way around.
Heil.
"China has tons of its own knock offs for alternatives which they would prefer to buy. Game over for you Cisco!"
Knockoffs? They can just pull a few off the assembly line and put it in the box. This is the same country that counterfeited an entire apple store after all.
"Chisco," ask for them by name!
No shit, I'm still waiting on an international contract that will likely fall through because of "security concerns".
Fuck you, NSA!!!
You mean Booker T Jonney won't be any part of the fall through.? Dang I was all in on that one.
I'm looking forward to it. Our government regulators have done nothing as they were designed to do. When SHTF these Chinese folks will lose their ass over night. The WTO was a fail from the get go, thanks to Bill Satan Clinton for pushing them in to American markets. China caused 57,000 businesses in America to closed their doors, put 32 Million people out of work, no EPA regulations, mass produced and sold illegal trademarked copy's, forced child labor, no healthcare benefits as they worked their people to death earning pennies while competing with America, NO WAY IN HELL could we compete. When the dollar ends, EVERYONE is gonna get it up the ass and China will endure the most catastrophic of it all with 1.3 billion people I say BRING IT !
- Top Gun
Correct; at least you've got the right enemy. Clinton and, Congres of course, sold us to the Chinese. Everyone needs to remember this when Hilliary Clinton is put forward as a Prez. candidate. He did it for the money and he's guilty of high treason. He made the deal at a Bilderburg conference when he was an unknown governor of Ark. They control the election process and guraranteed him the Presidency if he gave them what t hey wanted; the death of the middle class wage earning American and BIGG profits for the corporations. You're a little naive in discussing "competing with the Chinese" that's laughable and was never part of anyone's plan.
"Our government regulators have done nothing as they were designed to do."
I beg to differ.
The 'regulators' have done everything that they've been designed to do.
Unfortunately, history will continue repeating itself over and over again unless and/or until the herd finally recognizes the fact that 'regulators' (and the entire concept of 'government' which spawns such abominations) are worthy of nothing more than a very short and intimate encounter with a finely twisted and expertly knotted hemp rope.
Industrial grade hemp.
What'choo got against piano wire?
You forgot, 60% of China's water supplies are poison.
China says more than half of its groundwater is pollutedNumber of groundwater sites of poor or extremely poor quality increases to 59.6%, Chinese government says
Investigate, this was the PLAN put forward by Larry Summers back in the day. Export pollution to the third world, they can afford it. No joke.
"Br eaking into his companies equipment--" ?? Oh, Pleeezze. Don't make me laugh; it only hurts when I laugh. They didn't break into anything, you lying bitch-boy; you sold them their taps. Do you think we're all idiots ? Yes, you do; that's the standard operating assumption.
Look at the wording of the statements. He can't say anything about the things he knows went on because of the security letter they served him but that letter can't prevent him from talking about confidence disappering after evidence appeared or similar statements. He's not saying a word about what really happened because he'll get a one way trip to Guantanamo.
Cant unring a bell mutter freken
As if the corrupt arrogant narcissistic illegal alien insenesian kenyan muslim liar in chief ever listens to anyone wit real world experience. Fat frackin chance.
It has already collapsed
Cisco CEO Warns Obama To Rein In NSAThe NSA/CIA spies on everybody - the Congress, the Supreme Court and the White House. And has been doing that for at least 5 years and, probably, much longer. Don't ask the Community Organizer to do the impossible.
Here is the evidence from an agreement that Obama signed with Israel in March 2009 handing over NSA data of all Americans over to Israel without any legal restrictions:
The most extraordinary passage in the memo requires that the Israeli spooks “destroy upon recognition” any communication provided by the NSA “that is either to or from an official of the US government.” It goes on to spell out that this includes “officials of the Executive Branch (including the White House, Cabinet Departments, and independent agencies); the US House of Representatives and Senate (members and staff); and the US Federal Court System (including, but not limited to, the Supreme Court).”
The stunning implication of this passage is that NSA spying targets not only ordinary American citizens, but also Supreme Court justices, members of Congress and the White House itself. One could hardly ask for a more naked exposure of a police state.
http://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2013/09/13/surv-s13.html
What is this? A set-up for finger pointing at the next stockholders meeting? Surely TPTB at Cisco know how comical this warning sounds to anyone with a reasonably functioning brain.
Not sure you'll find many people like that among the roles of their remaining customer base or shareholders.
They're probably saying all this so they can put even more "eavesdropping" features in their products.
At least it is a better excuse than the "weather".
I'm speculating based on that information and what Glenn Greenwald said was coming from the Snowden files as a "finale" this summer that we're going to get documentation of the government spying on the government.
My biggest hope (which is totally delusional) is that there's a recording of a White House phone call to the supreme court where we hear one particular justice ordered to change his vote so it's legal. This would instantly incriminate the NSA, the White House, and the Supreme Court, and likely trigger an epic constitutional crisis.
A man can dream.
Hello Roberts , we know !!!!
Well, at least you're still dreaming (or maybe, unfortunately you're still dreaming). That means there's still some element in your psyche that hasn't come to terms with the complete fraudulence of the entire system.
We all have that dream. "Keep on believin"
Dont stop Believin'
It would be nice.
The problem is Snowden hasn't released jackshit other than what many already suspected. If he has the goods, where are they? He was part of the NSA spying fear campaign until proven otherwise. He ended up in the hands of Obama's friend in spirit co-oligarch Putin. Nice place to stash him in saftey to continue the mythology of the hero.
Truly amazing how adored Snowden is here when what you say is true.
What he says is an ignorant delusion from his own ignorant and deluded brain; and you're another fool.
Thanks for showing some balls in the middle of the Snowden Fanclub TS.
You're a fool and you never bothered to read anything t hat was released.
Still waiting, where is all that good stuff that was released?
Don't forget to pummel me here too:
http://www.zerohedge.com/contributed/2014-05-16/spying-meant-crush-citiz...
well yeah--and I'm sure your on the list to get the info first like in "where is it" fucking asshole--
Perhaps you can guide me to this info? The only list I'm on is the shit list for questioning the validity of the hero. As for being a FA, you are correct.
"Still waiting, where is all that good stuff that was released?"
Yes we know!!! Snowden is either “a traitor for revealing state secrets” or “a charlatan for revealing nothing but BS”, one of two false choices posited by all paid .gov trolls. The good'ole Black-and-White fallacy. We're still waiting for you guys to find another tactic because that hasn't worked since day one and it's been over a year now.
Best comment on the thread.
Snowden doubters watch this:
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/united-states-of-secrets/
Snowden provided all the proof to all previous accusations that the gov denied.
LOL. PBS as a source funded by who? The government. LOL. Can this thread get any funnier?
If they were state owned would they run it at all? Seriously then what are we to ever believe. Are there any honest reporters or government workers or is all just bull shit? I don't think every NSA worker or every justice departement attorney and journalist checked their integrity at the door. What else you got?
Pretty confusing isn't it.
Not really, it isn't about spying at all. The real issue is what authority does the president have under the constitution? This all about executive power which the president does not have. The GOP barking up bengazi, illegal immigration etc is all BS. If they really wanted to impaeach Obama they would do it under authorizing illegal spying on the american public. Same for Bush he got the ball rolling. To go even further both could be arrested for war crimes for killing civilians with drones. Bush does not leave american soil for that reason, same will happen to Obama when all the smoke clears.
I'll agree, the POTUS shouldn't have these powers. Have another beer Cliff.
I'm not claiming he is a traitor or a charlatan. I'm saying he is a party to the game. Been saying that all along. He provides generalities but nothing to indict the the real assholes in the game. Wake up.
they're waiting for Sony Pics to option the screenplay.
it's gonna be a double feature with Zero Dark 30.
It took a CEO to confide in the bullshite money laundering operation?
Reap what you sow motherfucker!
OT, but for the record:
Congratulations!
About 400 lawyers for the State of New Jersey, including Deputy State Attorneys General, just began working under their first union contract, under guidance of IBEW* Local #33.
The IBEW worked over 3 years to negotiate their first contract. Finally, on Dec. 16, 2013 negotiators for the State and IBEW agreed the contract.
Have you noticed the media blackout of this news?
* International Brotherhood Of Electrical Workers
New Jersey; Attorneys; Union (IBEW) & "Negotiated". Got it! Media blackout on what is so easily understood - is understandable.
It is on their own site.
http://www.ibew.org/articles/14ElectricalWorker/EW1405/NJLawyers.0514.html
I guess now everyone in the state gov't will see dramatic increases at our expenses...
At least the Federal gov't reigns in the union power which is suprising that state and local didn't do the same when it comes to salary negotation...
High pay for everyone in gov't jobs!
NSA Spying Never Catches Israelis?
Aren't they in colloboration with them considering they're the first to get the intelligence?
Snowden is the SGT Shultz of Israeli spying.
"I know nothing, I said nothing!"
What's your problem Mr. Chambers? Just put some fancy " No-Spy" stickers on the boxes - problem solved!
Blows a kiss to you. Problem solved
Obama will get right on it, just as soon as he gets a hole in one on the par-4 10th at Royal Hawaiian Country Club.
"The short par-4 10th requires an exacting tee shot, then a blind approach."
http://www.gohawaii.com/oahu/experiences/golf/royal-hawaiian-country-club-oahu
Obama suggests a hole for one or a back hole for Reggie.
Tell Chambers to file for bankruptcy and IBM too. Obama is a hollow man. There ain't nothing there except a Joe sixpack liar. His main duty is to attack the United States of America and follow the demands of his foreign handlers. Dudes a traitor, a scheister, a puppet, a TOTUS, an enemy to the sensabilities of the mind, a scumbucket. a CIA agent, a man with a fake religion , a fake name, a fake citizenship, a man that is neither black nor white, a no one and certainly no one to write a letter to.
and a .........cocksucker!
a cipher; an empty suit; a ventriloquist's dummy; a marionette; a will-o'-the-wisp; a hologram projected in front of a teleprompter.
a super-serviceable yes-man....
I think my 12yo could draw in that "Goldman forecast". Straightline with a few% random error bar.
wouldn't touch cisco stuff period. Too little, too late. Trust takes years, decades to build and it can be taken away in a heart beat. This is exactly that heart beat moment.
Couldn't happen to a nicer CEO...
He knew what the FBI and NSA were doing as far back as the 90's, and when I see articles that claim his "shock" and "surprise" about how far they went... GAG!...
In addition to outsourcing all of the companies manufacturing base to Asia over past decade, and saving additional costs for the boardroom elite with downsizing of the TAC (which also got outsourced to Asia) the Company has been building an increasingly crappy product over the years with "bugs galore" in every new IOS release!
Fuck Cisco! They are getting everything they deserve along with all the other American network and computer manufacturers fro selling their workers and more importantly their reputations and integrity "out" to the government for the bottom line!!!
San Jose is full of cheap Aisan workers discuguised as know all about Networking. None of them have actully done any work to prove their so called skills.
The art of the deal!
We give China and India a seat at the table for the "professional" IT commercial engineering jobs at 1/3 the cost and in return they take the evidence away from 'Ground Zero' and a year later ship it back to America as "manhole covers"!
Leave your conscience(s) at the door Please!
No shit...
Trust: once it's gone, IT'S GONE!!
Cisco hopped in bed with the devil and then wonders why it got assfucked by satan's trident, and now blames lucifer.
Fuck you Cisco and US tech, and the NSA and Uncle Sam. You deserve zero trust.
all the Ceo's of these tech firms r a bunch of bitch ass facist state collaborators...
Fuck Cisco
Fuck Facbook
Fuck Google
Fuck Twitter
FUCK U ALL...
Obama: "I'm working harder than I've ever worked to do something about it -- keep up the contributions." [chortle, snicker].
ovomit - leftist lying defuscating msm, help me here!
Exactly. Chambers claiming that the NSA "broke into the company's equipment". Bull-fucking-shit. Chambers and Cisco let the NSA have those back doors. They knew about it all along. Hell, they probably helped the NSA design them.
It is not just China and Brazil, but also European countries considered allies of the US.
Recently I adviced against our company buying from another US company revealed of placing backdoors in their equipment. This was a replacement of some of the most security sensitive equipment we have. Our management listened and worried that the US government might leak information to our US competitors regarding our future strategies.
So we purchased a non-US product instead. Not a big loss for the US, as this is a small company, and the purchase was relatively small. But many small losses add up to large numbers.
Death by a thousand papercuts
seems like the USSA the only thing to do is tweet and put pics on Fuckbook as jobs. Other than that go to war I guess. Nice economic progress
"Breaking In", ya right, I believe that - they must think all of us are as stupid as the 47%
127.0.0.1 in their own asses.
+1, love the nerdiness.
Ping the local host over and over... yes give it to me...more, MOAR
There are many "terrorists" at this internet address.
Please try to connect to it. You know the passwords. If you can connect to this loopback address the US government is considering you a terrorist.
If you want to destroy terrorism, please destroy anything at this address.
Edit: I'd better add a /sarc tag before somebody destroy their own computer lol.
If you're not doing anything wrong then you should have nothing to hide from yourself.
Cisco's only demanding a return on their bribes, er contributions...Who wouldn't.
Australia would not buy routers from China for the National Broadband Network - because they were afraid the Chinese might spy on them. The irony!
Huawei hits back at NBN deal rejectionhttp://www.theage.com.au/it-pro/government-it/huawei-hits-back-at-nbn-de...
What Australia meant to say was: they were afraid they might not be able to spy limitlessly on their own population.
Simple solution boyz and gurlz...always pay cash and buy second hand, You will get a better deal too.
Don't worry cisco, IBM's X86 business sold to China, has the government over it's own barrel
Fuck Cisco.
O/C Cisco stock was going up, all the bitcoin mining hardware in large farms needs large scale enterprise level networking hardware just to run uninterrupted for months.
You think bit coin miners had that much network needs that it is driving up Cisco stock? It is time to give you the gong show hook. Even Fonestar knows better than that.
Too Late.
Who would "trust" them now? You'd have to be an idiot.
Information infrastructure designed by people in a nation, the DC US, that flies and uses drones around the world to indiscriminately kill, maintains a "kill-list" and spies on everyone are to be trusted?! Sorry that baby already went out with the bath water.
"Thank goodness my guillotine is all analog."
The US leaders have turned 180 degrees since the US was founded.
Now the US leaders could risk what happened to the French leaders at the time of the French revolution.
I don't like violence. But sometimes violence is needed to stop violence.
Do mean that despite what your momma told you, violence does solve problems?
Now where have I heard that before?
The cashier accidentally stiffs you for a $1,00. Violence doesn't solve that.
The cashier deliberately stiffs you for a $1.00. Violence probably more than is needed.
A syndicate of murdering thieves aggressing against your unalienable rights to Life, Liberty and Property daily. Only violence will solve that.
Just pay more attention to their local goons, the gun and badge thugs, for perspective.
I expect that any time in the next year the Chinese will announce that going forward all PCs produced there for the Asian market will hence forth not ship with M$ Windows installed, but some variant of Linux.
Short-sheet Micro$oft.
What trust?
Trust into 'American products' disappeared with first revelation of National Security Letters and existance of secret just-sign-this-for-me-please court.
As George W. Bush would say "There's an old saying in Tennessee — I know it's in Texas, probably in Tennessee — that says, fool me once, shame on — shame on you. Fool me — you can't get fooled again."
George W. does have a way with words.
I've already lost total trust of technology, large corporations, and the US government.
What the Government and the US Tech companies are REALLY afraid of is losing control of the Internet - such that there is real Net Neutrality that cannot be bought or controlled by the government, and real security that NSA cannot trap and monitor. Imagine a world where citizens can actually communicate with each other without the government knowing. The only thing the big NSA complex in Utah would be good for would be to study tumbleweeds and lizards, and of course - global warming!
The Cisco CEO is a conspiracy nut because he believes, that politics and national security could be influenced by profits and money.
So the Cisco CEO does not believe the USA is a Democracy, but a Plutocracy!
Interesting...
The NSA knew the contents of Chambers' letter before Obama did. They let it through, only to laugh at Obama's helplessness...
There wouldn't be any connection between NSA and the Israeli company, EZchip, for supplying Cisco chips for their routers used by ISP?
How odd, this comment section.
First interaction:
Not logged in. See interesting comment, eehhh, prob a dozen down from the top.
Second interaction:
Log in to up vote. That same comment, a few seconds later, is not found with page search. However, 'fuck cisco' posts count is is now is up at least 6 to 1.
Mirror mirror. Does this site tell me exactly what it thinks I want to hear?
Excuse me. Just exploring the parameters of the matrix.
At least it should be made more interesting.
Go dark.
Cisco are, of course, mentally challenged.
The trust is already gone and it's not going back simply because, unlike the opposite, it is impossible to prove that the NSA are not eavesdropping.
Cisco displays some amazing hypocrisy.
Yes, it is outrageous that the NSA opens boxes of Cisco gear and implants back doors etc. in the firmware -
but it should be a very simple exercise for Cisco to release some small program that runs a CRC check or something similar across all of the firmware, that way giving a signal if the firmware has been altered or not.
(Yes I do know the NSA could alter the websites showing the correct CRC result as well, but then Cisco has to distribute these in multiple ways allowing for cross-checking.)
as if obama had any power over this?
cisco is either providing cover to the NSA by pretending the president of the united states has any power anymore, or cisco are a bunch of idiots.
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Dear John Chambers,
Unfortunately your request for an NSA pull back is being denied. Publicly we may say yes but in all reality the world will never believe it so we must keep the programs going in order to at least maintain the perception that we are everywhere all the time. The world will never believe Cisco is NSA free. You broke a promise to your customers and there is nothing we can do to fix that. The only solution is to sell to the next foreign investor whom the world might trust. Now be a good boy and make sure the takeover goes smoothly.
Also, thank you for the campaign contributions. We will be around soon to collect everything else you have.
Now this is change you can believe in, sucker.
Sincerely,
Team Tyranny
One solution to the total disregard of the 4th Amendment by the Bush/Obama administration:
Punish the Tech Companies that played along and got paid to keep quiet. CISCO was a CO-CONSPIRATOR.
BOYCOTT CISCO BUY NO CISCO PRODUCTS
Make Cisco a cautionary tail. PUNISH CISCO.
'cause there is likely no more a political solution to the rape of our constitution than there is a political solution to the system of fraud on Wall Street.
The USA is no longer a democracy. It is a Plutocracy. Let us use our wallets and I, today, ask the world to help out in this.
Later we Americans may ask for help on the streets.
"Help us Obamiwan you're our only hope."
That's some funny shit.
Through a PRISM, Darkly - Everything we know about NSA spying [30c3]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BMwPe2KqYn4 (1:03:33)
Who gives a shit. Obama will nationilize Cisco with taxpayers money. Government can always run business better than greedy fat cats.
Absolutely.
Just compare any emergency room in the country to the Veterans Administration! ;-)
The biggest difference I see is one speaks spanish and moves faster.
Good luck with this idea...
My trust in US are already collapsed.
Chambers should retire - been there too long and handed the manufacturing of Cisco to Chinese outsources that later formed Huawei - a company that is eating Cisco alive everywhere except north America.
Live and die on the quarter is fine, so long as you don't give away strategic position - which Chambers did.
Chambers challenging POTUS is a joke and some kind of novice side show.
Chinese electronic outsourcing, will eat greedy American companies alive, as time goes on.
And hired shitloads of foreign engineers when domestic engineers were hitting their application queues in hoardes. With the H-1B visa.
Its so bad in San Jose nowadays, that the frisbee matches of the late 1990s have been replaced with Cricket.
cisco is a criminal enterprise which went along with the criminal government in spying...the sick thing about all of this is that the spying and espionage are as great as it was when it was first reported. i hope cisco, att, verizon, google, microsoft, and the government go bankrupt and all of their leaders and executives die of cancer.
I sense distrust ...
Go ahead, let it out; go full bore.
Tell us how you really feel.
I'm sure the Downturn in Technolofy is just due to the weather.
I;m sure it has absolutely nothing to do with Ciscos/Linksys Home Routers and Modems being absolute Krap, so it must be the weather.
Cisco did themselves in when they stopped interviewing and hiring American citizen tech talent in any significant numbers and merely went to using the H-1B visa, not even bothering to respond to the domestic graduate engineers that applied to their company.
The rest is history.
Well, the solution is simple:
#1: if the goverment comes calling to install spíing gear in your product: BLOW THE WHISTLE
#2: Move all production and coding activities outside the US
#3: Create products that thwart NSA spying
Problem solved.
USA the blowback capital of the world!
I thinl the final Snowdon revelations will be very similar to Mccarthyism so we'll see that the NSA was and probably still is targetting Hollywood people, business people, and plenty of politicians, especially non-white.
ALL of the people, whether you like them or not, will have NOTHING to do with terrorism and on the whole be pretty good Americans. And it's no joke, but I'd put a good bet on the Kardashians being on that list. That is how absurd everything will turn out to be because I very much doubt the K's have ever heard or Al Quada and even more sure they couldn't spell the word 'terrorism, let alone spell the word 'terror'.
Do you have a link to that there information, cowboy?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P8n4FA_t7NU AwolNation Sail
The sooner the US tech industry collapses, the better for the World.
Fuck the Amerikanians!
I do not buy any HW, which could theoretically originate from US, I use basically only ARM CPUs.
Basically I do not run OS, originating in US (MS, or Apple).
No services, no clouds.
Keep all this in mind when they push you to put your data on the "cloud". They need easy access to it. Give them a hand.
John Chambers is a bad salesman.
Cisco shit is built in China, so the Chineese already know what the back doors are in the router/switch firmware.