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DOJ Accuses Chinese Hackers Of "Penetrating" US Companies - Live Press Conference Feed
In the first case of its kind, US Attorney General Eric Holder has broght charges against five Chinese military officals on charges of economic espionage and other offenses related to computer hacking of US nuclear power, metals, and power industries:
- *FIVE CHINESE MILITARY OFFICERS CHARGED BY U.S. WITH ESPIONAGE
- *JUSTICE DEPARTMENT SAYS CHINA HACKERS PENETRATE U.S. COMPANIES
- *DOJ SAYS ESPIONAGE TARGETED WESTINGHOUSE ELECTRIC, U.S. STEEL, ALCOA, SOLARWORLD
Holder added that the "range of trade secrets and other senstivive business information stolen in this case is significant and demands an aggressive response."
Eric Holder Press Conference: (click image for feed - no embed)
As BBC reports:
The US has charged Chinese officials with hacking private-sector companies, in a first of its kind cyber-espionage case.
Attorney General Eric Holder will announce charges against five Chinese hackers, saying they broke into US companies to gain trade secrets.
The US and China have previously sparred over cyber attacks, with the US accusing China of being behind attacks on companies and US military targets.
In detail:
“This is a case alleging economic espionage by members of the Chinese military and represents the first ever charges against a state actor for this type of hacking,” U.S. Attorney General Eric Holder said in a statement.
“The range of trade secrets and other sensitive business information stolen in this case is significant and demands an aggressive response. Success in the global marketplace should be based solely on a company’s ability to innovate and compete, not on a sponsor government’s ability to spy and steal business secrets.”
The Justice Department said the U.S. victims included:
- Westinghouse Electric Co.;
- U.S. subsidiaries of SolarWorld AG;
- United States Steel Corp.;
- Allegheny Technologies Inc.;
- the United Steel, Paper and Forestry, Rubber, Manufacturing, Energy, Allied Industrial Services Workers International Union; and
- Alcoa Inc.
Additionally, Preet Bharara noted an additional push to be discussed later
- *U.S. MALWARE PROBE SAID TO YIELD DOZENS OF ARRESTS WORLDWIDE
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All the "mystery meat" perhaps ? http://hedgeaccording.ly/2014/05/pimco-slow-rate-rise-in-new-neutral-chi...
Can the US accuse anybody of hacking with a straight face? lol the hypocrisy is sickening
Yeah, and what is our Atty General doing prosecuting foreign military leaders? What's he going to do? Go over to China and arrest them?
This is just bizarre. I can barely wrap my mind around the incomprehensible stupidity of this. More Theatre of The Absurd from this marvelous administration.
I'm guessing China will now impose sactions on US, isntead of the other way around.
China is TBTFw (too big to fuck with) ;-)
Looney
You didn't penetrate that !
Gee, I wonder why. Perhaps it's because Criminal at large Bill Clinton practically gave China all of our tech for free?
China has retained Putin as arbitrator!
This sounds like conditioning for the American public so when all our bank accounts go to zero they have someone to blame.
Secret State Department Memo:
We failed to screw Russia out of Crimea, but managed to antagonize Putin against the west. So, let's go to plan B and screw with China. What could go wrong, LOL?
"There are some people who keep throwing in this idea of there being two superpowers in the world who are out to dictate their, as they say, dictate their will, to foist their will upon others, and so forth," Brezhnev said. "Now, but, are we to blame for being big? Are we to blame for being strong? What can we do about it? That is the way it is."
"A riot is a spontaneous outburst. A war takes advanced planning."
"The ablest people in the world in my opinion—potentially. We've got to get along with them. It's no problem for the next 5 years, the next 20 years, but it's the critical problem of our age."
This one embeded in my head and I can't find quote in GOrwell cyberspace.
Paraphrased: Today we dictate to China. Tomorrow they dictate to us.
*All form the "original DICK"
I dunno.... it's ok for the USSA to hack Angela Merkle's cellphone but not ok for Chinese to hack?
Bend over Dick Holder and blow yourself.
Live by the hack...
They can't do that to our pledges. Only we can do that to our pledges.
Nothing a little vaseline cant remedy.
China, the big dick of asia. Too big to fuck with!
In May 2010, General Keith Alexander outlined his views in a report for the United States House Committee on Armed Services subcommittee:
"My own view is that the only way to counteract both criminal and espionage activity online is to be proactive. If the U.S. is taking a formal approach to this, then that has to be a good thing. The Chinese are viewed as the source of a great many attacks on western infrastructure and just recently, the U.S. electrical grid. If that is determined to be an organized attack, I would want to go and take down the source of those attacks. The only problem is that the Internet, by its very nature, has no borders and if the U.S. takes on the mantle of the world's police; that might not go down so well."
In response to concerns about the military's right to respond to cyber attacks, GEN Alexander stated:
"The U.S. must fire back against cyber attacks swiftly and strongly and should act to counter or disable a threat even when the identity of the attacker is unknown" prior to his confirmation hearings before the United States Congress. This came in response to incidents such as a 2008 operation to take down a government run extremist honeypot in Saudi Arabia. "Elite U.S. military computer specialists, over the objections of the CIA, mounted a cyberattack that dismantled the online forum"
So USCYBERCOM did not prempt the Chinese attacks? Sounds familiar to other USSA failures!
Oh so curious.
It's not bizarre. It's deflection and distraction. It's propaganda. The mere fact we are talking about this instead of the NSA proves that it works.
" It's deflection and distraction. It's propaganda"
Perhaps..., but are you saying that it is also a lie?
Perhaps I don't care if it's true. Perhaps the NSA is a bigger threat... by far. Perhaps life is about prioritizing. Perhaps, perhaps, perhaps...
This is in leu of sanctions for Chinese agresiveness on internet domains and Viet Nam
NoDebt - Remember back from the mid nineties campaign contributions fr the Chinese to Bill Clinton and access to Los Alamos nuclear tech (its was called spying but was a scandal), allowing missle tech and supercomputers to be sold to China by private companies? Trasnferring America's manufactuing and gold wasn't the only thing to build China up as the next reserve currency. But now trade is to be rebalanced.
The Chinese are ponging back to America and doing there new early role as global cop.
They like the US before it, will crush any country getting in the way of global energy supply. At this point I doubt the US will permit any more tech transfer, America's rulers may be greedy sociopaths but they are not stupid.
Does it make sense now?
It's like a wife accusing a husband of cheating after she spent the day riding the gardener like Seabiscuit.
But, but Seabiscuit was hung like a horse?
Wait for the Central Bank of CHina to file a complaint to the Justice Authorities in China:
1. Complaint: US is counterfeiting money
2. US shall repay all USD of China in Gold at the 1971 parity of 35 USD per ounce.
That shall be fun to watch.
China has its workers sweat and toil to manufacture goods and the US pays with confettis. China has to take their payments somewhere. The first step is to get some USD sterilization and preventing dollars to enter by making the population amass Gold and Silver instead of Yuan deposits backed by a depreciating dollar (Theft on Chinese worker is blocked that way). The second step is to get what is due by any mean possible. The third step is to get rid of dollars by lending dollars on a 1 to 1 basis (no leverage) so that Companies can buy foreign assets.
When the US pays its trade deficit in Gold, US will have all the legitimacy to prosecute industrial theft. For now it is theft (debased USD) for theft (industrial espionnage).
bla, bla, blahhh ... add the names to the sanctions list ... yeah right, give me a break ... they all try to steal anything they can and everybody tries to spies on each other ... what is DOJ saying ??? is not fair? dahhh
What about Fast & Furious...and the IRS thing. Can´t we get a televised update on that as well...?
In Clinton's era, this would be called a favor
Severe sanctions levied in 1-2-3......
We've known about this for the last what, 10 to 15 years? Funny how it's tolerated when companies are receiving slave labor but now that we're tanking and looking for an excuse to go to war it suddenly becomes relevant.
Just in time to front run the news of Putin's historic gas deal with China.
Must. Demonize. China.
Let's be frank though, China has been stealing anything not bolted down for decades.
pods
They learned well from their American tutors.
U.S. MALWARE PROBE SAID TO YIELD DOZENS OF ARRESTS WORLDWIDE
almost the stupidest sentence ever written...
IMAGINARY PLAYMATES SAID TO LIKE CRUMPETS
...this shit is easy!
Not difficult to steal when the US is giving everything away.
The US isn't going to have any friends when this is all over.
When the worst bully is in a position of terminal weakness, all the small kids will kick him with delectation, even the ones he thought were his "friends".
The D.C. insiders get all their insider trading tips from the NSA.
Why wouldn't they?
Under Obama's leadership, the US has been penetrated quite a bit.
The chinese already have over a trillion in treasuries, just how much punishment can they take ???
China and Russia should dump *anything* from the US. The RusAsian market might be big enough for them. So US, good bye assholes.
Can't wait to see Belgium holding a trillion and a half in treasuries !!!
Their balance sheet can absorb them, no problem. Sales of waffle irons are through the roof.
Mr. Kettle, meet Mr. Pot.
Oh oh! Sanctions! That will work!!!
exactly!
Holder accuses foreign spies of spying, Obama "Madder than hell." More at 11.
Hell yeah he's mad, made him triple bogey that last hole rather than the usual double.
only NSA is allow to such a activity
AG HOLDER ANNOUNCES CYBER-ESPIONAGE CHARGES AGAINST CHINESE OFFICIALS
I'm sure they are quaking in their boots as they laugh at Holder and Obama. Why doesn't Holder take Obama and go to China and arrest them at the point of a golf club?
Dude, have you ever been hit by a golf club? It hurts like hell. Maybe he is on to something?
"Success in the global marketplace should be based solely on a company’s ability to innovate and compete, not on a sponsor government’s ability to spy and steal business secrets"
Unless said gov is USSA!!
That's a lot of probing and penetrating.
Are the girls loosing patience?
By the way, you can read all about things here: http://intelreport.mandiant.com/ Holder is a bit late to the game.
war by another name - send in the lawyers!
The pot-head AG calling the kettle black... The usage is actually irrelevant to the action they are alleging, which is no different than what the US has done.
If they wanted to raise the bar and actually demonstrate an intent and attempt to profit from the information obtained by espionage, it would be an at least somewhat respectable endeavor.
And how should the World treat Corupt American Actions.......You Fucking Hypocrite. Warmongering piece ofshit.
Hacking my ass, they're just using the passwords/codes that Clinton gave 'em. Just more theatre to distract the masses. It has gotten past the point of being funny.
The Chinese AG come up with an arrest warrant for Keith Alexander? That sounds good to me.
I'm sure the allegations are true, but the indignation of the communiques about Chinese audacity is a real knee slapper.
After all, 'Merca would never do that! Our people follow the Constitution.
http://www.deesillustration.com/artwork.asp?item=516&cat=satire
The US only collects 3.2 billion pieces of intelligence a day illegally from this world. None of those could possible be coming from Chinese companies. The Nobel Prize Winner says so.
The National Security Agency has sought to create back doors into the networks of Chinese telecommunications giant Huawei Technologies in an effort to learn whether the company was spying on behalf of Beijing, according to a leaked document.
The agency also apparently hoped to take advantage of the presence of Huawei equipment in the networks of other countries of interest, such as Iran, Afghanistan, Pakistan, Kenya and Cuba, according to the document leaked by former agency contractor Edward Snowden.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/nsa-targeted-netwo...
Backdoors in the chips used all over the world are also a problem, like this:
http://www.upi.com/Science_News/2012/05/30/Chinese-backdoor-in-US-used-c...
I guess Corzine's penetration of "Mericans' investment accounts doesn't count.
lmao. Yeah you just figured that out asswipe holder. Gee we need to watch US citizens because they are the threat and all the while the Chinese have been literally stealing to goods from the US and everyone else for that matter. Welcome to the United states of China where if we need it you be a good comrade and share it with us, otherwise we will liberate this imprisioned information from your capitalist information prisons.
Welcome to the new economy we Chinese steal from you, then use that technology to sell shit back.
A short story from a family member. he was present at a trade show where a guy representing a company that made valves had his products on the table so people could examine his products. A couple Chinese 'business men' came by and examined the shit to the point of taking tons of photographs of everything. My relative then spoke with the rep and said "you know they are stealing your stuff right?!". The rep said, "Of course because they did the same damn thing last year and sold the same products at lower cost.". My relative said, "So you are letting them do it again?". Rep, "No I brought in every failed valve design modification we made last year so they would steal and replicate garbage."
OldE_Ant
Blahahahahahhahahahahahhaha.
Oh I needed this one this morning.
LOL, the only reason they're prosecuting is the hacking of the Blue teams donors. The others were added to the list as window dressing.
Oh good! Piss China off as well. As if US with NSA is not doing exactly the same. Such hippocrits.
usa ptb will be sucking chinese cock as usual
$1.2 trillion in cock sucking T-bonds.
China, what?! Cozine was in China?! He's really Chinese?!
I'm confused.
The Hypocrisy is so thick you can cut it with a knife. Pure Washington Propaganda.
Mwanwhile, who has benn busy hacking the Constitution?
Difficult?! - Probably not difficult for a person of your talent, but i'd LOVE to see a visualization of this.
Showtime at the Kabuki Theater that is the DOJ.
Fuck Eric Holder he's been hacking me since I got a pc!
Should've bought a Mac, one needs 12 firewalls and 13 VPNs in New America.
hell we just give them manufacturing and military technology every day. fucking ha ha ha ha!
Don't worry, the Obama administration is dealing with a possible war between China and Vietnam by. . .having AG Holder indict members of the Chinese People's Liberation Army with spying. Talk about insanity. A war is brewing and the USA can only wave its finger at China for cyber stealing. The same USA that has NSA officials who are now subject to criminal charges from foreign countries for illegal spying, thanks to the precedent this indictment sets and Snowden's NSA revelations. AG Holder should be indicting the short sellers of U.S. aviation stocks in the weeks before 9/11, making tens of millions of dollars according to Jim Rickards, but Holder can't do that. Mustn't upset those short sellers who are now Obama's organ grinders.
It's time for a Chinese counter criminal complaint against Obama and NSA officials, for invasion of privacy, theft of military/industrial secrets in a Chinese court. Have a Chinese warrant for the arrest of Obama and NSA officials. Maybe China will do what the European prosecutors are afraid to do, indict and prosecute the NSA and Obama.
lol murica
the chinese doesnt understand that NSA has a monopoly in espionage...
My first thought is that this is a false flag to justify an Internet Kill Switch. I am looking for a reason to trust Eric Holder and Barak Obama, but I cannot find any.
I was just saying the same thing a few moments ago, behind this is another motivation we are not being told about. It amazes me how easy America is being strangled to death and no one does anything about it.
evil evil evil chinese hackers
Amazing timing. 2 days before the big Russia-China love fest. Fucking hillareous!!! I bet Russian hackers are better still.
sowing the seeds of war?
LoL its a little like charging General Alexander for espionage. Sure as hell guilty, but in the end nothing is going to happen.
So revoke China Most favored nation status, apply 30% tariffs on everything Chinese... and default on all US debt held by China. No problema. Oh, yeah... and send them Holder for a year for any other "negotiations" that may arise.
So what? What is Holder going to do? Embargo them? The US is over a barrel here as they can't cut the cord from China and its cheap slave labor products. We exported inflation and that's where we are folks
This sounds like a propaganda action. The US has two black eyes and swolen nuts from what happened after Snowden leaked, and now we're trying to make the other guy look bad. If it is propaganda, it will fail, even if convictions happen and are real.
You said penetration
trying all the moves. Too late you criminals, the petrodollar is dead after the signing of the Holy Grail Natgas/oil deal tomorrow with Putin.
Kiss your rear goodbye to your freeloading days.
The DOJ/NSA/CIA/FBI/DHS can make any shit story up they want. How do we know if they are lieing or not? I just assume everything they publicly announce these days as a grand lie to save their sorry asses. This same Chinese hacker (or Russian, Iranian) front will be used for whatever purpose they desire. One day our 401k's and IRAs will all be stolen by "Chinese hackers".
i ca secure all your ifo from hacking for only $1B...
pull the plug off the internet to your network
send money to,,,
BREAKING NEWS: Pot calls kettle black.
Someone tell china to hack Holders pc and post his email treasure trove of breaches against the american people instead of wasting time and talent on trade secrets. Then its square.
Fuck you Holder! Between you and your gay buddy you are bringing this county to the brink of war.
Chinese hackers?! This is scary! Can they hack my Facebook account, too? What about my Internet connected TV?! Could they block my Dancing With the Stars?
We need to stop these guys before this gets serious. The government should like, fix the internet or something. Or like, make sure everything on the Internet is safe...Whatever they need to do, they should do..
Paging the new independent MSM US media aka Glen "im not compromised and neither is my boss" Greenwald.....
Uh oh! Now I see that this is getting really serious. They hacked the "United Steel, Paper and Forestry, Rubber, Manufacturing, Energy, Allied Industrial Services Workers International Union". USA is screwed now.
F.U.D. and destabilization is in the air, Vietnam, Chinese citizens acting up, this.
Sure it has nothing to do with that Russian gas deal.
Paging Mr Snowden....
Chinese think they are going to get away with a gold backed Yuan. The empire will just drop a shitload of contracts onto the market and crush the price and in turn their economy just like the Brits did to them using India as a proxy over silver after the Chinese hoovered up all the British silver for tea then after hooking them on a new idoltry aka Opium they still wouldn't give up the silver so the British crushed the price of silver as revenge.
The Chinese have built the physical bullion infrastructure and will have a SWIFT equivalent for trade settlement in currencies other than the $ sometime this year. At that point they can disengage the price of physical gold from the COMEX / London Gold Fix pricing. The Western cabal can sell naked short all they want at that time but it will have no effect on PHYSICAL gold traded in Shanghai / HK / etc.
I'll bet even the Langley heroin dealers in Afganistan will be looking to trade $ at that point.
NSA left all companies wide open by requiring encryption standards to be at a minimum. Holder is a rat turd.criminal traitor.
The US has no leverage against China!
What a fucking joke!
I felt a disturbance in the Force, as if a billion suddenly burst out laughing. USA is producing something valuable again and it's gold... comedy gold!
"DOJ Accuses Chinese Hackers Of "Penetrating" US Companies"
Sounds like sexual assault
The U.S. is clearly punishing China for the "Holy Grail" gas deal with Russia. These spying charges aren't a coincidence.
Maybe Holder will send them a few thousand firearms so he can get to the bottom of this.
But when impeachment papers are drawn over President's supplying sensitive technological information to China they conveniently find interns and semen stained dresses.
Reggie should quickly burn all his garments.
Who do these Chinese think they are... The NSA? Don't they know only the NSA can spy on every single person or entity on the planet?
NEWSFLASH: The NSA hacks Americans' computers more than the Chinese.
NEWSFLASH: The American government is full of the biggest bunch of evil, hypocritical sacks of shit on the face of the Earth.
Time for China to dump some US treasuries.
The hipocracy is hard to miss.
Chinese Hackers penetrating American companies, and indeed American citizen's lives are completely fine, acceptable, and desirable to DOJ...
...So long as they are working under the direction of a federal police force, or the NSA.
If I could only ask them how it felt to be "Penetrated" and if it was as good for them as it has been for the peeps.
hahahahah
This is a joke right?
There are serving PLA officers running the daily operations of publicly traded companies in silicon valley - for decades.
You think Holder during the Reno regime ever had Intel on Chinese activities during the Clinton task force on Chinese money and espionage? Did things improve after the LA division China squad got their collective asses handed to them?
The Chinese are a much older civilization and are laughing at the addled children running the USA into the ground. Funnier still that US elites consider the China model the best for business and state.
America. You broke my heart.
Oh yes there is that whole NSA thing isn't there.
They should have hacked the SIFIs, and stolen their plans to remain TBTJ.
if you are not able to keep something secret, it's your fault!
These guys are such morons.
It should be a requirement to play the Benny Hill theme before Jay Carney, Holder, Yellen, and Obama speak.
Oh please.
IMHO the plot thickens----flight (what ever it was) that disapeared over the Indan Ocean had chinese techs and a supposedly stolen cargo---lots of stuff going on with this ----the cyber wars have been going on for a while I believe---Stuxnet and all that ----Isreal--Iran--Russia--China--USA--Korea--UK ---Ukraine ----all bigtime cyber war gamers. Real life is stranger by far than fiction----just saying--
"Fun" is my Chinese neighbor's middle name.
Wow. Eric Holder knows how to charge someone with something? Who knew?
Yeah, frankly I would rather he charge the BASTARDS at the IRS. who are obviously going to get away scott free. TBTF I guess.
Everybody knew about this China shit 2 years ago. Hell it was on the cover of Forbes. Nice DISTRACTION.
Syria...nope
Iran...uh-uh
North Korea...sorry
Ukraine...oops
China...
Fuck you Bill Clinton
Executive Order 12850
http://www.presidency.ucsb.edu/ws/?pid=61546
Clinton executive order for china intellectual property
Keep blowing smoke up your ass. Will sit back before launching your signed document with China.
While my understanding of those in power in China is that they are corrupt and self-serving, I think they have a vast universe to cross before they reach the level of the US justice department. The US justice department is apparently in the business of protecting criminals and persecuting the innocent. ... It is just political business as usual they claim.
Maybe it should not be business as usual... I am thinking.
E. Holder signed off Mark Rich/Marcel Reich, dual citizen, biggest tax evader, pardoned by Clinton for the biggest contributions, the pardon came 15 minutes befor quitting the office/.
E. Holder did not charge the domestic banksters.
it is ridiculous.
when are you guys i the us going to address this?
If these money hungry politicians could be replaced perhaps we'd have an opportunity to get back to the protectionist policies that made this a great country. The multi-billion dollar eastern span project of the Bay Bridge in the SF Bay Area... all Chinese steel... pathetc.
Butt he says nothing, the estimable Holder, about the 'Penetration' of the assholes of the people by the Jewish Mafia on Wall street.
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Failures at international politics, the Administration turns increasingly to what it picked up in Chicago.
Holder should charge himself for gun running automatic weapons to Mexico.
Holder should charge himself for gun running automatic weapons to Mexico.