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Former Prime Minister Of Malaysia Accuses CIA Of Covering Up MH-370 Disappearance

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It has been over two months since Malaysian flight MH-370 disappeared and still not a single credible trace of its final resting place has been found.

In the ongoing din over the confusion surrounding the recovery effort which has led nowhere, even the current Malaysian Prime Minister Najib Razak recently described the current rescue effort driven by satellite data of the suggested "location" of purported MH370 debris in the Indian Ocean as 'bizarre' and 'hard to believe'. Further, he told CNN when discussing the satellite data which is the basis for the current search in the Indian Ocean that 'To be honest, I found it hard to believe.... It's a bizarre scenario which none of us could have contemplated so that's why when I met the team...of foremost experts in aviation industry I asked them again and again "are you sure?"

In short: "nobody knows." Or so the conventional wisdom goes.

One person, however, who thinks someone may know more than they are letting on is none other than the man who was the Prime Minister of Malaysia from 1981 to 2003, Mahathir Mohamad, and who in a blog post earlier today has some rather provocative questions and thoughts.

In his article, titled appropriately "What goes up must come down", the former PM argues that flight did not crash and its current whereabouts may be know to the Central Intelligence Agency and the Boeing aircraft company: "It is a waste of time and money to look for debris or oil slick or to listen for “pings” from the black box. This is most likely not an ordinary crash after fuel was exhausted. The plane is somewhere, maybe without MAS markings."

But far more provocatively, and daring to utter a three letter acronym few others do, Mahathir said the plane could have been switched onto autopilot remotely by the CIA if it had been hijacked, citing a reference which claims that "The ‘uninterruptible’ autopilot would be activated – either by pilot, by on board sensors, or even remotely by radio or satellite links by government agencies like the Central Intelligence Agency, if terrorists attempt to gain control of the flight deck."

Mahatir goes back to day one, when the first disclosure surrounding the fateful flight were made, and when it was clear that the pilot, for whatever reason, purposefully shut down the communication system. "The system must have been disabled or else the ground station could have called the plane."

So putting two and two together, the former PM, who believes that "it is not fair that MAS and Malaysia should take the blame" concludes that "someone is hiding something."

His hope:

For some reason the media will not print anything that involves Boeing or the CIA. I hope my readers will read this.

To help the former premier reach as many readers as possible (and perhaps before his blog has an unfortunate nailgun incident), we repost his letter in its entirety.

From "Boeing technology - what goes up must come down"

1. What goes up must come down. Airplanes can go up and stay up for long periods of time. But even they must come down eventually. They can land safely or they may crash. But airplanes don’t just disappear. Certainly not these days with all the powerful communication systems, radio and satellite tracking and filmless cameras which operate almost indefinitely and possess huge storage capacities.


2. I wrote about the disabling of MH370’s communication system as well as the signals for GPS. The system must have been disabled or else the ground station could have called the plane. The GPS too must have been disabled or else the flight of MH370 would have been tracked by satellites which normally provide data on all commercial flights, inclusive of data on location, kind of aircraft, flight number, departure airport and destination. But the data seems unavailable. The plane just disappeared seemingly from all screens.


3. MH370 is a Boeing 777 aircraft. It was built and equipped by Boeing. All the communications and GPS equipment must have been installed by Boeing. If they failed or have been disabled Boeing must know how it can be done. Surely Boeing would ensure that they cannot be easily disabled as they are vital to the safety and operation of the plane.


4. A search on the Internet reveals that Boeing in 2006 received a US patent for a system that, once activated, removes all control from pilots to automatically return a commercial airliner to a pre-determined landing location.


5. The article by John Croft, datelined Washington DC (1st December, 2006) further mentioned “The ‘uninterruptible’ autopilot would be activated – either by pilot, by on board sensors, or even remotely by radio or satellite links by government agencies like the Central Intelligence Agency, if terrorists attempt to gain control of the flight deck”.


6. Clearly Boeing and certain agencies have the capacity to take over “uninterruptible control” of commercial airliners of which MH370 B777 is one.


7. Can it not be that the pilot of MH370 lost control of their aircraft after someone directly or remotely activated the equipment for seizure of control of the aircraft.


8. It is a waste of time and money to look for debris or oil slick or to listen for “pings” from the black box. This is most likely not an ordinary crash after fuel was exhausted. The plane is somewhere, maybe without MAS markings.


9. Boeing should explain about this so-called anti-terrorism auto-land system. I cannot imagine the pilots made a soft-landing in rough seas and then quietly drown with the aircraft.


10. Someone is hiding something. It is not fair that MAS and Malaysia should take the blame.


11. For some reason the media will not print anything that involves Boeing or the CIA. I hope my readers will read this.


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Mon, 05/19/2014 - 17:22 | 4775061 Slave
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Just assume everything is a CIA-led false flag and you'll be right way more than you're wrong.

Mon, 05/19/2014 - 17:25 | 4775067 quintago
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They should be looking in the area of Diego Garcia. If it went off course and didn't respond to radio calls, then it may have been brought down.

Mon, 05/19/2014 - 17:27 | 4775069 THX 1178
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Prime minister of malaysia? The dude from zoolander?

Mon, 05/19/2014 - 17:28 | 4775071 Pladizow
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Diego Garcia, Bitches!!!!!

Mon, 05/19/2014 - 17:37 | 4775095 onewayticket2
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it was the video.  


problem solved.

Mon, 05/19/2014 - 17:39 | 4775107 Ahmeexnal
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Breaking news: FBI adds former Malaysian Prime Minister to the list of most wanted criminals.

Mon, 05/19/2014 - 17:43 | 4775121 Chupacabra-322
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@ Ahmeexnal,

Vote up!
Vote down!
You mean the same Criminal FBI who executed the Tsarnev friend in the False Flag Boston Bombing? That FBI?

That agent, claims that Todashev was about to sign a confession to his involvement along with Tamerlen Tsarnev in an unsolved triple murder in Massachusetts and it was just before he was going to sign that confession that he attacked.

The ex-wife of Todashev spoke to me via Skype.

Ben: “What do you make of the claim that all the agents left him and only the agent who killed Ibragim remained in the room with him?”

Reni: “We still don’t know what exactly happened, how many were in there when he was shot. It is still not clear, they are not telling us anything. So far we know it was three of them when they started the interrogation of them but who was in there when he was shot, we still don’t know.”

Aside from the very strange details surrounding an FBI agent left alone with a suspect, who then must defend himself and kill that suspect, are these details.

The agent who shot and killed Todashev, reportedly shot him 7 times including in the head and chest. I say reportedly, because on July 8th, the autopsy report on Ibragim Toashev was finalized and ready for release. According to the Orlando medical examiners office forensic records coordinator,

“The FBI has informed this office that the case is still under investigation and not to release this document.”

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Mon, 05/19/2014 - 17:50 | 4775126 Latina Lover
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Many commercial pilots have told me that the official story of MH370 is highly suspect. Large planes like a 777 do not disappear. If the plane was remote comandeered, it could answer the question how 2 planes 'knocked' down 3 towers in NYC


As usual the USSA is lying, that is what a corrupt, crony capitalist government does.

Mon, 05/19/2014 - 17:56 | 4775145 McMolotov
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"No matter how cynical you become, it's never enough to keep up." —Lily Tomlin

Mon, 05/19/2014 - 18:07 | 4775175 Chupacabra-322
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"Things are going to get worse before they get a lot worse."

-Lilly Tomlin

Mon, 05/19/2014 - 18:14 | 4775195 knukles
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"No Shit"

Mon, 05/19/2014 - 18:42 | 4775239 Manthong
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Dr. Who is involved with this. 

-Is This The Party To Whom I Am Speaking?

 :-) Lilly, too.

Mon, 05/19/2014 - 19:23 | 4775393 g'kar
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What are the insurance companies saying about all this? They are paying out.

Tue, 05/20/2014 - 03:14 | 4776441 Oh regional Indian
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Lot's of occult symbolism in this story too.

Each one seems to be a test of credulity and so far the sheep are looking on, just incredulous!


Baaaaaaa, splash!

Baaaa Baaaaaaaa....

By the way, Mahathir has been a lone voice in the wilderness for decades now. He deserves a prize for his out-spoken-ness. 


Mon, 05/19/2014 - 19:22 | 4775386 Bangin7GramRocks
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Why is it always former.

Tue, 05/20/2014 - 06:46 | 4776535 old naughty
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Because they can speak freely while in office, restricted.

And first his former secretary spoke out (5 parts on, now himself. Adding pressure.

Former sec was once jailed by one of the tri-members of Diego Garcia.

Mon, 05/19/2014 - 19:14 | 4775364 Tenshin Headache
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Interesting thought.

Mon, 05/19/2014 - 22:38 | 4776029 Againstthelie
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Maybe an interesting fact not widely known HOW artistic the planes flew into the towers I came across:

At least one of the airlines (maybe both, I don't remember anymore) flew an almost 180 degree turn and hit the tower.

That's like you drive a car and since you want to drive into your parking house, two kilometers before you are at home you angle the steering wheel and drive a perfect half circle directly into you garage.

Doesn't that speak for itself, or must really be aditionally mentioned that the speed of that maneuver is several hundred km/h?


I am very concerned that the globalist forces of evil will use MH370 for a terror false flag op. 9/11 was such a huge success for them and all other FFs. Not even the most obvious and absurd lies can stop them. What should them stop the next time?

Mon, 05/19/2014 - 18:13 | 4775190 fleur de lis
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Is there any way to find out the percentage of bought-off FBI traitors vs the ones who really strive to do the right thing? I can't believe every single agent to the last one is a NWO waterboy. There must be a few good ones left.

Mon, 05/19/2014 - 18:16 | 4775201 mumcard
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You're either with us or you're against us.  So either you play ball and toe the line or you get shit jobs and never promoted...or worse.  So the "good" guys are complicit just by keeping their mouths shut and cashing their paycheck.

Mon, 05/19/2014 - 18:25 | 4775245 Keyser
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It does appear that every federal agency with teeth is onboard with the new agenda... Just look at the cross-section of agencies involved in everything from fast-and-furious to the IRS investigations... BATF, IRS, DOJ, FBI, EPA, FDIC, CIA, NSA, DHS, ICE, etc....

Mon, 05/19/2014 - 20:00 | 4775517 Quus Ant
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Why does everyone assume all agencies- clandestine and apparent- are on the same page?  I look at them as mafia families warring over turf.  Allegiances are made when interests align.  Backs are stabbed.  Made men are off limits. 

Perhaps one family was about to set off a nuke over China and another family put on the kibosh.  Who knows.  We all have a theory- and with the US alphabet killers on the loose we'll never want for material.


Mon, 05/19/2014 - 20:40 | 4775655 Keyser
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As always, follow the $$$... Agencies have their own agenda and there are turf wars between them, but when Uncle Sugar tells an agency to jump, they ask how high... Or in most cases the heads of key agencies are run by appointees of the current administration, so they are already onboard... Same as it always was...


Mon, 05/19/2014 - 21:11 | 4775737 Quus Ant
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That doesn't tell me much.  Who is Uncle Sugar?  I don't believe it's the current admin and its lackeys.  Completely overhaul government every four years?  That's down right irresponsible.  J Edgar Hoover had dirt on everyone and the security state has only become further entrenched since.  The CIA/NSA knew everything about Obama down to boxers or briefs before he made state senator. 

And as far as $$$- that's what the black market is for.  Heroin anyone?  


Mon, 05/19/2014 - 23:07 | 4776113 Uncle Sugar
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I had nothing to do with it. I was home watching DWTS until Survivor came on.

Tue, 05/20/2014 - 06:53 | 4776546 old naughty
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Uncle Sugar, good one.

For Q Ant,

couple of things to google...ponder:

Henry K once said all "intelligency" actions must first check with MI6;


NSA metadata channelled to Holy Land.

Tue, 05/20/2014 - 11:22 | 4777613 Quus Ant
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Thanks ON.  I'll add that to the mix. 

Mon, 05/19/2014 - 20:02 | 4775522 TuPhat
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Before you can work for "them" they make sure the brainwashing is complete and effective.

Mon, 05/19/2014 - 18:38 | 4775278 i_call_you_my_base
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I'm sure people said the same thing about Nazis.

Group dynamics in a system as large as the FBI can be self-reinforcing, selecting-for only the true believers. People who don't "believe" or aren't willing to "do what it takes" get weeded out or never get high enough in the organization to know what actually goes on. The top-tier establishment folks end up Machiavellian and believe they are doing good while committing horrible acts. This is how it always goes. There really is no dissent. The system doesn't allow it.

Mon, 05/19/2014 - 22:49 | 4776065 Againstthelie
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What "facts" do you mean and who told you about them?

The same forces that instigated WW1 and WW2 have become more powerful, and today are more powerful than ever because people do believe their lies, black propaganda and false flags and are bringing them closer to their goal of world government.

Tue, 05/20/2014 - 06:55 | 4776549 old naughty
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People (eh sheeples) believe what they want to believe.

They just don't want to believe the truth.

Mon, 05/19/2014 - 19:08 | 4775347 Bingo Hammer
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Through compartmentilising countless parts of the process, each is only playing its part.

Just like individual muso's going separately into a sound studio and recording tracks which are then "engineered" by the mixer and producer to create a totally different sound/result.

The "masters" manipulate all the "alphabet" players.

Mon, 05/19/2014 - 20:13 | 4775555 Savyindallas
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I used to work with a lot of FBI, ATF, IRS criminal investigator agents when I headed a task force that investigated criminal fraud rings -especially arson related and insurance and credit card fraud related to organized rings, including Nigerians and gypsies.  yes most are patriotic americans  -most have no knowledge of the shadow government CIA, NSA sponsored domestic terrorism/spying. They may suspect what is going on but are powerless to do anything about it. I don't know. I've been out of law enforcement for nearly 20 years. I knew several texas based ATF agents who were involved with Koresh and the Waco  operation   -mainly in a support role, as a washington unit ran the show. Most of these agents were taken away from financial and other fruad and reassigned to domestic terrorism after 9/11- Of course those in the know, know there are no domestic terrorists-except for those the FBI sets up and entraps and Ron paul supporters.

Tue, 05/20/2014 - 00:48 | 4776325 bh2
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"they are not telling us anything"

Yeah, well that's the purpose of the FBI, CIA, NSA, and all the other three-letter agencies, isn't it? After all, when everything done by government is a "secret", what can there be to tell?

Case closed. Move along.

Mon, 05/19/2014 - 18:25 | 4775243 edotabin
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So just like Cisco, will Boeing be forced to  write a letter soon?

Mon, 05/19/2014 - 19:01 | 4775332 John Bigboote
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Uh, doesn't Boeing make military aircraft??? They practically are the Defense Department.

Mon, 05/19/2014 - 20:20 | 4775591 FeralSerf
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Card carrying members of the Military Industrial Complex.

Tue, 05/20/2014 - 05:48 | 4776502 edotabin
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Astoundingly perceptive! They make a multitude of military harware, not only planes. I'm sure Cisco equipped the NSA. So what? This means they can piss away all their customers worldwide?

Mon, 05/19/2014 - 18:20 | 4775224 666
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First it was Cisco products that were hacked by the USSA; now add Boeing to the list. Should we make it simple and say don't buy American goods?

Mon, 05/19/2014 - 18:43 | 4775287 Keyser
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I would imagine that there are some strained conversations taking place in the board rooms of major airlines that fly Boeing aircraft... Uncle Sugar has overstepped his bounds once again... 



Mon, 05/19/2014 - 17:46 | 4775120 Ignatius
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Gee, he sure looks a lot like this guy who through the Perdana Global Peace Foundation helped sponsor and organize the 9/11 Revisited Conference.

MSM brainwashed Americans are among the few still struggling with the fraud of 9/11.

Here's James Corbett's presentation at that same conference:

Mon, 05/19/2014 - 17:49 | 4775131 Chupacabra-322
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Yup, its literally all PsOp's & False Narratives at this point. I posted the above on the FBI thread. By the way, the fater of the kid Executed by the Criminal FBI in the Flase Flag of the Boston Bombing had a second autopsy done.

Turns out one of the seven gunshot wounds was located directly above his head.

Mon, 05/19/2014 - 18:07 | 4775163 SameAsItEverWas
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Turns out one of the seven gunshot wounds was located directly above his head.

Really?  Was he upside-down when shot?  Or was he shot in the hat?

How could anyone have a wound located directly above their head?

Mon, 05/19/2014 - 18:10 | 4775179 Chupacabra-322
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What part of he was Executed didn't you understand? Autopsy photographs proved that.

Mon, 05/19/2014 - 18:18 | 4775212 mumcard
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I think your wording is unclear.  Do you mean shot in the top of the head?

Mon, 05/19/2014 - 18:51 | 4775313 SilverIsKing
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It was right between the eyes of the guy in the picture on the wall directly above his head.

How didn't you understand that?

Mon, 05/19/2014 - 20:28 | 4775617 mumcard
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Turns out one of the seven gunshot wounds was located directly above his head.

Well, words have a precise meaning.  I'd like you to explain a gunshot wound above your head.

Mon, 05/19/2014 - 17:39 | 4775106 messymerry
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Just assume everything is a TLA-led false flag and you'll be right way more than you're wrong.

FTFY,,,   ;-)

Mon, 05/19/2014 - 17:48 | 4775133 lakecity55
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The aircraft either crashed into very deep waters, or it's hiding in a hangar, awaiting its next (clandestine) mission.

Mon, 05/19/2014 - 18:22 | 4775220 mumcard
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I know which theory gets my vote.


*with any luck they can Tom Clancy that bitch right into a full session of CONgress.


"...However, an embittered Japan Air Lines pilot—driven mad by the deaths of his son and brother during the conflict—flies his Boeing 747 directly into the U.S. Capitol during a special joint session of Congress. The president, as well as nearly the entire Congress, the Supreme Court, and many other members of the Federal Government are killed in the attack."

Mon, 05/19/2014 - 18:46 | 4775296 Winston Churchill
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Can I donate somewhere ?

Mon, 05/19/2014 - 19:09 | 4775346 John Bigboote
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Does unrelenting cognitive dissonance count as a good reason to do that?

Mon, 05/19/2014 - 19:11 | 4775355 John Bigboote
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Joseph Stack should have read Tom Clancy.

Mon, 05/19/2014 - 21:24 | 4775777 GlobalCtzn
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President? Congress? Supreme Court Justices? All second and third tier players. Even if that jumbo jet got them all the master plan and the real players would proceed unchecked..............

Mon, 05/19/2014 - 23:14 | 4776137 jackstraw001
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How about instead crash into the offices of the BIS, IMF, World Bank, UN, et al.....

Mon, 05/26/2014 - 08:53 | 4795118 GlobalCtzn
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That might put a dent in the bitch!

Tue, 05/20/2014 - 02:18 | 4776395 mumcard
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That is very true, but I'd have to give a cheer to see the rat bastards get their comeuppance at the hands of their own puppet masters.  The only thing that could be better would be if the American people had somehow pulled it off.  Quickly followed by the overthrow of the MSM and national broadcasts of trials and executions of the guilty parties up and down the chain.  Perhaps a live raid on the Rothschilds to top it all off.

Mon, 05/19/2014 - 18:47 | 4775306 Blano
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It doesn't matter how deep the water is, there would still be debris floating on the surface.

As I said below....THE PLANE ISN'T IN THE WATER.

Mon, 05/19/2014 - 23:47 | 4776222 Abbie Normal
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Soft land it like Sully, deploy the landing gear, it sinks like a rock with no debris or breakup.

Mon, 05/19/2014 - 23:27 | 4776172 TheReplacement
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Or it was in a hanger before it was crashed into very deep waters.

Mon, 05/19/2014 - 18:26 | 4775247 drendebe10
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"This gets better and better."  Arnold Schwarznegger as Dutch in Predator

Mon, 05/19/2014 - 19:40 | 4775463 The Chief
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+100 for the awesome Dutch reference. As I recall, there was a rogue alphabet agency in that movie as well. Which one? I cant remember?

Mon, 05/19/2014 - 19:42 | 4775471 post turtle saver
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this guy is a fucking idiot, and not a one of you understands how GPS or inertial navigation works if you believe him... read a fucking book for chrissakes

Mon, 05/19/2014 - 22:57 | 4776086 Againstthelie
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Why don't you share your wisdom, Shlomo?

Mon, 05/19/2014 - 23:29 | 4776182 TheReplacement
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Do you believe everything you see on CNN? 

Mon, 05/19/2014 - 22:54 | 4776077 LIBERATUS
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Guys help to spread this petition\tweet. Sign Petition Now!!!! Designate US as "State sponsor of terrorism"

Mon, 05/19/2014 - 23:04 | 4776108 LIBERATUS
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Guys help to spread this petition\tweet. Sign Petition Now!!!! Designate US as "State sponsor of terrorism"

Tue, 05/20/2014 - 01:11 | 4776350 AmCockerSpaniel
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If Vietnam is right, and the plane was flown up to 45 thousand feet, and at a point were cell phone

service does not work, all aboard were killed. So we have a hijacked air plane with no one alive to

call out. The CIA can cover were the plane went from that point. But what is the motive here? If it

went down off the coast of Vietnam, and China knows this..... What's that China, so called deep

water, oil rig looking for? I remember the USA bring up a Russian sub with something like that. This is 

just too many what if's for me.

Mon, 05/19/2014 - 17:24 | 4775064 stant
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New boogy man, to be used at a future date

Mon, 05/19/2014 - 17:56 | 4775149 nuclearsquid
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Mohamed, lol. This guy was already on the drone list.

Mon, 05/19/2014 - 19:40 | 4775453 Cacete de Ouro
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Hey mistar, can I go ice skating in Central Park when this is all over?

Sure you can, sonny, just put this little package in your shoe , it's a trial run, see. That way, you're helping us catch the terrorists.

Ye? Ok, do we go to ice skating in the night, like in the movie?

Sure, in the night, after the lights go on.

Ok, so I just get on the plane in London with this shoes?

Ye, buddy, you got it, we're right there with you....

Mon, 05/19/2014 - 17:26 | 4775068 Rainman
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12.  one or both Muslim pilots decided to go allah akbar kamakaze.

Mon, 05/19/2014 - 17:28 | 4775072 Wahooo
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Easiest explanation: the actual flight never left the ground.

Mon, 05/19/2014 - 17:57 | 4775153 cougar_w
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Paging Mr. Tarantino ...

Mon, 05/19/2014 - 18:49 | 4775301 SHRAGS
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The implication of this are worth considering.  I suspect the only boxes that are hard coded and have unique identifiers mapped to a given aircraft tail number are the transponder, ACARS, SATCOM & communications SELCAL.

Swap those boxes into a another custom bizjet and from the ATC point of view, you would be, for all intents and purposes appear to be the original jet. You could even fly a climb & cruise speed profile to match a B777, very easily. The primary radar paint will be slightly different if your fake jet is much smaller, but thats above my pay grade.

Not saying it happened this way, just thinking through the logistics of how it could be done.

Mon, 05/19/2014 - 18:53 | 4775318 SilverIsKing
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and the missing passengers?

Mon, 05/19/2014 - 19:23 | 4775389 RafterManFMJ
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Acceptable losses. Bonus - do you know the value of a human if parted out? The eyes alone are worth 50K.

Mon, 05/19/2014 - 20:46 | 4775671 Keyser
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Can anyone say Flight 93...


Mon, 05/19/2014 - 23:04 | 4776106 Againstthelie
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And how do you silence the passengers in the airplane without the threat of being observed on the airport? Please, think logical.

IIRC MH370 was reported it had risen to 15.000 feet. That's how all of them could have been silenced very calmy and without potential witnesses.

Mon, 05/19/2014 - 23:51 | 4776231 Abbie Normal
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43000 feet for 20 minutes was the smoking gun, because there's only 10 min of oxygen in the emergency supply at that altitude.

Mon, 05/19/2014 - 17:28 | 4775073 yellowsub
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The question is what doesn't the CIA do?

Mon, 05/19/2014 - 17:39 | 4775103 Ratscam
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telling the truth!

Mon, 05/19/2014 - 17:59 | 4775158 Millivanilli
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The CIA won't do any ethical or constitutional correct action.

Mon, 05/19/2014 - 18:48 | 4775308 Keyser
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We have Harry Truman to thank for the CIA, along with the cold war... Little man syndrome at it's worst...


Mon, 05/19/2014 - 19:25 | 4775401 Herd Redirectio...
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Wrong.  Prescott Bush and GHW Bush.  IMO.

Mon, 05/19/2014 - 20:48 | 4775674 Keyser
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Err, check again... I left out the NSA, which was another gift from Harry in 1952... 


Mon, 05/19/2014 - 20:09 | 4775540 palmereldritch
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You mean this guy?

On October 19, 1945, Truman was given the 33rd degree of the Supreme Council of the Scottish Rite for the southern jurisdiction. He is the only President to have received this distinction, which he considered with satisfaction to be the culmination of his Masonic career.

Mon, 05/19/2014 - 21:15 | 4775750 tip e. canoe
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Press Release from President Harry S Truman on August 6, 1945 concerning the dropping of the Atomic bomb on Hiroshima, Japan.

"Sixteen hours ago an American airplane dropped one bomb on Hiroshima and destroyed its usefulness to the enemy. That bomb had more power than 20,000 tons of T.N.T. It had more than two thousand times the blast power of the British "Grand Slam" which is the largest bomb ever yet used in the history of warfare..."

part of the initiation rite perhaps?

Tue, 05/20/2014 - 01:21 | 4776186 palmereldritch
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It has been argued that in fact the fuel for that bomb was provided by the SS...the ultimate German masonic death cult

This would mean the myth says something different...which is perhaps why in the spy trade they call them legends.


Mon, 05/19/2014 - 19:25 | 4775404 MiltonFriedmans...
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I think the CIA is getting a bad rap here. Serco is the real player involved, assuming of course there is a difference. Ms. Marcy what say ye?

Mon, 05/19/2014 - 17:29 | 4775075 g speed
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ongoing saga of  US cyber wars with China---bet ya dollars to donuts -----

Mon, 05/19/2014 - 17:29 | 4775076 Chupacabra-322
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@ Slave,

Spot on.

The Criminal rogue UNITED STATES, CORP. INC. CIA arm, fund & train terror oraganizations.

Drug run, then launder the $ through the tax payer bailed out TBTFBanksters.

Destabilize Soverign Countries while simultaneously installing juntas & puppet regimes.

Steal Soverign Countries natural resources.

Great Businnes Model isn't it? And that's just the short of it.

Mon, 05/19/2014 - 18:05 | 4775173 Poor Grogman
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The " uninterruptible auto pilot" story is complete B/S.

Show the schematics or STFU!

Anyhow if one accepts this "mystery device's" actual existence then it would be high on the list of CAUSES for the actual crash in which case the whole fleet of 777 s would need to be grounded till it's role in the accident was determined and an "override system" installed.

What crap this story is becoming...

Mon, 05/19/2014 - 18:17 | 4775202 thamnosma
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Boeing received a patent for it.  Now go away.

Mon, 05/19/2014 - 18:24 | 4775238 Poor Grogman
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There are millions of unused patents, now actually read what I said...


Mon, 05/19/2014 - 18:52 | 4775315 Keyser
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Psst, as a pilot myself, they exist... There is an aviation joke about the airline crew of the future, which will be comprised of a pilot and a dog... The pilot is there to monitor the systems and the dog is there to bite the pilot in case he touches anything... Today's SOTA aircraft can taxi, take off, fly to a destination, land and taxi to the ramp without any human intervention... So you better believe these systems exist... BTW, where did you get you aviation education? 


Mon, 05/19/2014 - 19:36 | 4775445 Poor Grogman
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Oh wow, a pilot I AM impressed...

What are your hours and types and by the way which circuit breaker ( thermal or current, remote or panel) protects this hitherto unknown mysterious "uninterruptible auto pilot" feature of the 777???

COME ON BIG is your chance to make a name for yourself...

Mon, 05/19/2014 - 20:51 | 4775687 Keyser
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I was trying to be nice, but you are obviously a troll, so I would kindly thank you to fuck off... Capiche? 


Mon, 05/19/2014 - 22:20 | 4775970 Poor Grogman
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In other words.


But don't let that stop you from talking bat-shit childish jargon, without a SINGLE fucking fact.

Refer to my previous post or STFU.

Mon, 05/19/2014 - 23:10 | 4776122 Againstthelie
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Pilots at least in big planes are used to give the passengers the feeling of an authority that is in control. Technologically they are not needed. Ask your tribe member Larry Silverstein.

Tue, 05/20/2014 - 00:58 | 4776341 Poor Grogman
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Some one else who knows fuck all I see.

Mon, 05/19/2014 - 23:22 | 4776157 jackstraw001
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Douche bag alert. Show a little courtesy and respect or get the fuck out of here.

Tue, 05/20/2014 - 00:55 | 4776338 Poor Grogman
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Facts first little man.

The respect will come later, if earned.

When you grow up to be a big boy you will learn that life works that way

Mon, 05/19/2014 - 18:25 | 4775248 mumcard
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Why don't you just print out the ThinThread code?  We all know that exists, should be easy for you to come up with.

Mon, 05/19/2014 - 19:29 | 4775421 MiltonFriedmans...
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If the truth is ever revealed, the airline industry is toast, and so are the actors currently playing the roles of US government officials. Reset Bitchez!

Mon, 05/19/2014 - 17:31 | 4775078 q99x2
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What I don't understand is why all nations don't arrest anyone and everyone that is CIA since they are the world's worst and most dangerous terrorist organization.


Mon, 05/19/2014 - 17:34 | 4775086 g speed
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but what if----chinese were stealing stuff and got owned--just what if. 

Mon, 05/19/2014 - 17:45 | 4775123 g speed
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maybe some high tech stolen stuff on the plane with some chinese high tech groupies going to china with the high tech stuff for an impromptu backward engineering party-----just guessing the original owners were pissed and stepped in to rehypothacate the collateral-----just guessing that the Boeing guys (ala Cisco) had a backdoor into the fly by wire 777 that the CIA was privy to--DG is nice any time of year.

Mon, 05/19/2014 - 17:49 | 4775134 g speed
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or maybe a deep dark hole in the middle of the ocean---better than losing high tech secret stuff ---not nice for the onboards but --hey all is fair in love and cyber war.

Mon, 05/19/2014 - 17:39 | 4775092 Chupacabra-322
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Simple. Because all the other nations are "all in on it." Its literally all Therater, PsyOp & False Narratives.

Just look at how many other War Criminal countries are accessories to Torture by having Black Sites.

At least 54 countries including Syria, Iran, Sweden, Iceland, and UK offered CIA “covert support” to detain, transport, interrogate and torture suspects in the years following the 9/11 attacks, according to a new report.

The 213-page report released by the Open Society Justice Initiative (OSJI), a New York-based human rights organization, documents wide-ranging international involvement in the American campaign against Al-Qaeda.

The report, titled Globalizing Torture, provides a detailed account of other countries covertly helping the US to run secret prisons, also known as ‘black sites’ on their territory and allowing the CIA to use national airports for refueling while transporting prisoners.

Countries listed in the report include many from the Middle East and Europe.

The OSJI identifies Syria and Iran as two participants of the CIA’s rendition program.

Mon, 05/19/2014 - 20:08 | 4775535 anonnn
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OT, but for the record re MSM blackout:

Please see Craig Murray's The Secret Bush-Blair Letters as direct source.

 "It was, incidentally, Sir David Manning who brought back to No. 10 the request from the White House that I be sacked as British Ambassador in Uzbekistan for kicking up a fuss internally over extraordinary rendition."



Mon, 05/19/2014 - 17:39 | 4775105 orangegeek
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great idea.


better to have the Chinese and Russians run things - only 60 million were slaughtered under Chairman Mao.


do you  have the slaughter number under Stalin?

Mon, 05/19/2014 - 17:56 | 4775143 dirty belly
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How about the slaughter numbers under Andrew Jackson and Thomas Jefferson?

Indian removal was a 19th-century policy of ethnic cleansing[1][2][3][4] by the government of the United States to move Native American tribes living east of the Mississippi River to lands west of the river. The Indian Removal Act was signed into law by President Andrew Jackson on May 26, 1830.

Mon, 05/19/2014 - 17:58 | 4775154 dirty belly
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By the way, the term 'Native American' implies that this land that is now called 'America' was always called America.  Think.

Mon, 05/19/2014 - 19:15 | 4775359 Yes We Can. But...
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20,000 years ago - ie yesterday, no one was in the Americas. Then man showed up and wiped out many species including much of the megafauna, and then proceeded to beat each other's brains out over turf for the next 200 centuries. That is how our species rolls. If you're thinking my European-American ass feels bad about what my ancestors have done here, you'd be wrong

Mon, 05/19/2014 - 19:26 | 4775405 RafterManFMJ
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Unlike you, I feel bad the megafauna were extincted for the simple fact that I'd like to kill them myself.  Back then, they didn't think about the children.

Mon, 05/19/2014 - 19:35 | 4775438 Yes We Can. But...
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Yeah, but the European Americans didn't wipe out the megafauna. Those fucking Native Americans did the deed. And that is too damned bad, isn't it.

Mon, 05/19/2014 - 20:30 | 4775626 FeralSerf
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If you believe that prehistoric stone age man wiped out the American megafauna, then you're as stupid as the idiot that came up with that preposterous idea.

Why didn't he wipe out the musk oxen, deer, buffalo, elk, etc. too?

Tue, 05/20/2014 - 03:51 | 4776468 Oh regional Indian
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Sometimes, the combination of smarts, obvious education and these extreme views.... ZH sure is a mixed bag.

For the cat above you with no have some real surprises a-comin'!

Those who do not understand history....etc...


Wed, 05/21/2014 - 11:29 | 4781396 Yes We Can. But...
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Some creatures are better able to defend themselves than others.  Survival of the fittest.

We also wiped out the Neanderthals.  Do you doubt that as well?

There is a reason all these species disappear when we show up, and it has nothing to do with climate.

Wed, 05/21/2014 - 15:09 | 4782214 FeralSerf
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Deer are better able to defend themselves than sabre tooth tigers?

How do you know "we" "wiped out" the Neanderthals? Just because they're no longer around means that "we" wiped them out? There's DNA evidence that those of European decent have Neanderthal DNA. Maybe the Neanderthals were absorbed. Maybe they just stopped having children like the Italians and many other Europeans are doing right now.

Mon, 05/19/2014 - 18:19 | 4775218 thamnosma
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Not even in the same ballpark in terms of numbers as Stalin and Mao.  Please.

Mon, 05/19/2014 - 18:56 | 4775322 Keyser
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As a ratio of population numbers slaughtered, yes... 


Mon, 05/19/2014 - 18:31 | 4775264 mumcard
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The truth is the dirty savages were murdering each other off way before Whitey showed up.

Mon, 05/19/2014 - 18:56 | 4775327 Keyser
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Says the bloke who is obviously of northern european descent... 


Mon, 05/19/2014 - 19:42 | 4775473 Herd Redirectio...
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Both sides traded.  Both sides fought for dominance and control.  Disease is estimated to have killed many more than violence.  The African slaves were initially ideal for use as slaves because of resistance to malaria (which the Native Americans did not have) and not knowing the local terrain (i.e. less inclined to attempt escape).

One side was using canoes and bow and arrow, the other was sailing across oceans (regularly) and using muskets.  Bow and arrow are actually quite versatile and deadly, but of course, over the fullness of time we know which emerged supreme.

Mon, 05/19/2014 - 20:18 | 4775577 mumcard
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I'm part Chickasaw.  They owned black slaves and fought for the Confederacy, so they weren't all bad.

Mon, 05/19/2014 - 21:34 | 4775807 USGrant
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Old settlers Cherokee. Stand Watie Brigades.

Mon, 05/19/2014 - 19:21 | 4775376 August
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In the film Black Robe, a couple of Huron guys are chatting one night, whilst the last of the tribe's captives are being slowly tortured and killed.

Huron dude #1:  "The French treat us like savages."

Huron dude #2: "We are savages."

Mon, 05/19/2014 - 18:55 | 4775323 Volkodav
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Stalin was not a Russian.

Mon, 05/19/2014 - 17:51 | 4775138 lakecity55
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Because anyone who could make or order the arrest in any country is....CIA.

Mon, 05/19/2014 - 18:54 | 4775320 Keyser
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Because they are all sucking on Uncle Sugar's teet, that's why...


Mon, 05/19/2014 - 23:24 | 4776163 Againstthelie
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Because that's how empires work. Otherwise they wouldn't be empires.

You just must get the lie out of your head, that modern times, or "Democracies" - the name is already a lie!!! - were any different from other hegemonial powers in history. All that has changed are the methods, how it is sold and the weapons how it is implemented.


And what we will also notice is, how empires unravel if their power is diminishing. Then the positive effects for the vassals are becoming less and less and they begin to become dissatisfied. And one day, with the spreading dissatisfaction and weakness, in the periphery, where control is weakest, the centrifugal forces become so strong, that the foreign grip is questioned.

And since the empire is no longer strong enough to keep the vassals down, the first one leaving becomes a model for many others, which also begin to sense the weakness and their chance for a better development without the foreign tyrant.

Tue, 05/20/2014 - 02:56 | 4776426 PopKorni
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You have to wonder how come the Byzantine Empire lasted 1000 years.

Maybe it's becaus they didn't use usury mostly. There were some banker as some recent m odern discoveries suggest, but still baninking was restricted.

Gold was money, was issued by the state (empire).

Property taxes were also in place, but kept as resonable levels 3-5%. And of course, you had protection of the Byzantine legions.


How they felt?

1) the famous theological discussions about what sex are the angels, are they men or women, while the Turks were at the gates

2) the 4th crusades, when they were so stupid to allow Vatican legions into Constantinoples to "help them" defend against the Turks.


Fast forward to the American Empire, only 150 years old, and the same scenarios occur:

1) discussion about gay rights while the majority are being destroyed by banks' usury

2) trusting the nazis and zionists that aftr WW2 sought refuge in USA. Now USA is transformed into USSA.

I'm afraid the American Empire will only last 50 years, top, at a maximum, and that only in the case of China+India+Russia+Brazil are willing to reinforce their position while slowlñy waitring for the Americans to overstrect themselves. Could be way shorter tham 50 years.


Tue, 05/20/2014 - 08:48 | 4776858 homonohumanus
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That is true for a lot of oligarchic systems that lasts.

Catholic chruch did set severe restriction on usury, so did Islam, etc.

Usury does more arm including to the oligarchs than it does good. yet it is a nice to regain control and nullifies the massive wealth redistribution toward the labor class that happen in recent times...

Mon, 05/19/2014 - 17:36 | 4775094 Robot Traders Mom
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Dude better be careful with what he says...Truth is becoming more dangerous by the day.

Mon, 05/19/2014 - 18:32 | 4775265 mumcard
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Truth is treason in the empire of lies.

Tue, 05/20/2014 - 08:55 | 4776888 homonohumanus
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Stupidity is even more deadly, and by a land mile.

Mon, 05/19/2014 - 17:37 | 4775096 orangegeek
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In five years - the headline will read:  Former Prime Minister's wife and children mysteriously disappear while on vacation.


Careful who you piss off Mohamad.

Mon, 05/19/2014 - 17:38 | 4775097 83_vf_1100_c
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I have a theory. Moochelle wants her own plane and the US is too broke to justify it so... look for MH370 to pop up with Air Force 2 markings on it. /s

Hey, it's as believable as many of the conspiracy theories rinng around the net and some are even making movies and books about them.

Mon, 05/19/2014 - 17:38 | 4775098 Joebloinvestor
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No comment on the inept Malaysia defense who saw a UFO fly across the peninsula and didn't even scramble a jet to find out what violated their airspace.

Ask this fool why the pilots wife still hasn't been interviewed.

Mon, 05/19/2014 - 19:28 | 4775416 RafterManFMJ
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If you've identified the object as unidentified, isn't it in fact identified and unworthy of further investigation?

Mon, 05/19/2014 - 17:39 | 4775104 bookwurm
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dont forget Hainan Island, anyone remember what happened to that P3-E Orion the Chinese reverse enginered???

Mon, 05/19/2014 - 17:56 | 4775150 jo6pac
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Shipped back to Amerika in parts

Mon, 05/19/2014 - 17:40 | 4775109 novictim
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How many MILLIONS did the USA and France and Britain spend in assisting these incompetent DOUCHE BAGS search for their missing plane?

Dear China, the Malasians are all your.  Bon appetite! 

Mon, 05/19/2014 - 17:40 | 4775110 Winston Churchill
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More likely they are covering up some fatal design fault
that brought it down.
The merger of business, and state, in a fascist wonderland.
If its good enough for the NSA, why not the CIA ?

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