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Another Day, Another GM Recall
Just after 7:30 am this morning, we reported on what we thought was one of the most important news of the day:
No GM recall announced so far today
— zerohedge (@zerohedge) May 21, 2014
Sadly, 30 minutes later this tweet is no longer accurate when moments ago GM just announced its record, 30th, recall of the year.
General Motors is adding 218,000 subcompact cars to its growing list of recalled vehicles.
The new recall covers certain Chevrolet Aveo cars from the 2004 through 2008 model years. GM says the daytime running light module in the dashboard center stack can overheat, melt and cause fires.
The recall posted Wednesday on a U.S. government website is GM’s 30th this year. It brings the total number of vehicles recalled by the company since January to 13.8 million, breaking its own annual record.
Recall documents didn’t say if the problem has caused any fires or injuries. GM says it will provide a plan to fix the problem as soon as possible.
The high number of recalls is fallout from a deadly ignition switch problem that is responsible for at least 13 deaths.
This brings the total recalls for the year to 15.4 million vehicles or 72% more than GM sold in all of 2013.
At this point not even the jokes are funny so we will just leave it with the updated table of GM recalls YTD. At this rate, Microsoft will need to add more rows to its worksheet: the stock 1,048,576 won't be enough.
The good news, however, is that as GM prepares to recall double the cars it sold in 2013, all those dealer lots full of unsellable cars will promptly disappear deep in the bowels of GM factories, never to be seen again.
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Government COCKSUCKING Motors
What a fucking JOKE
SLAP the next idiot that said he/she voted for Fuckbama....
Even though votes REALLY do not count....just the principle of the act of voting for this piece of SHIT is enough to warrant a good BITCH SLAP
This is what happens when the government runs ANYTHING. And we want them in charge of Health Care and Public Education? They'll be recalling our children before long.
So when they return to dealer lots are they counted as "sold" again?
The new management at GM is simply cleaning house. They are using this to get rid of ANY problem, regardless of how small.
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This will be BULLISH for the SP500 because its yet another excuse to print more fiat
p.s. PLEASE get rid of the anoying pop-up ads!!!!!!
P.P.S What's up with USDJPY?
Yeah .. Sum Ting Wong with USDJPY:
http://www.marketwatch.com/investing/Currency/USDJPY/charts
And try using Ghostery with Firfox to eliminate the pop ups.
General Recall.....we want you back in the service dept so we can try to get you to buy a new car
Pardon me while I indulge my laminar stannous headwear: Where are all the faulty parts made?
On a more probable note: Perhaps they should have taken the second cheapest quote. Not to worry, live and learn, markets adjust and all that ... ( What? You don't like my use of the word, "market"? ... ) XP
You called?
We both own Toyotas at my house. The wife has the minivan, and I have a truck. However, we did get a recall notice on the truck. Seems there is something potentially wrong with a seatbelt...at least it won't cause the car to blow up.
Try adblock plus, it's not rocket science
Yeah, once your tit gets caught in a wringer, you wanna try to avoid ALL washing machines in the future!
"cash for clunkers" should have been called "clunkers for clunkers"
thanks barry.
Government Motors.
WYSIWYG, Barry
Who wants it? They imposed that shit as a tax law.
This is what happens when a failing company, that was failing for a reason, is saved by taxpayers and kept in business.
real employment is housing. Trillion + in student debt will kill housing. So make crappy cars that must be recalled to keep people employed. Kids stay in school to be brain washed to be poltically correct robots who scream and while and phony injustices. The answer is always more control by the Government, schools, and media.
They will "chip" the children. Adults will be disposed of in an orderly fashion.
General rule of government: "Government always accomplishes the opposite of the stated goal. Always."
This is because government is nothing more than a criminal syndicate of theft and violence. Any "goal" is nothing more than cover, a lie, for a scheme, scam or racket to benefit the pols, crats and their cronies.
Campus shooters, Ritalin, SSRIs. Seems that horse has left the barn.
“If you put the federal government in charge of the Sahara Desert, in 5 years there'd be a shortage of sand” - Uncle Milton.
I wonder how many recalls they would ACTUALLY have if engine/transmission problems were included...
^.^
Engine and transmission "problems" will be repaired under warranty on our next available warranty repair appointment date only after 24.6 documented unproductive customer work hours have elapsed in efforts to resolve alleged defects and at least $750 has been spent on legal consultation. Nervouse breakdown is optional and will not be considered.
Gummint Motors makes noyhing i want to own or drive.
Every thing the gummint touches turns to stool. And wait. Phoenix VA hospital quality care is coming to you soon courtesy the liar in chief's mandatory death panel care. Bureaucracy rules.
"Stool", I am laughing! Great use of the word. GOVT is "politely" pushing ours in for us.
Nice to see the bail out money went to good use
Right, nothing can go wrong in central planning.
It's much more efficient than breaking a billion windows. 3 billion.
Brick up the factory doors already.
I'm picturing a factory pumping out cars bumper to bumper into a garbage dump. It's insane the times we live in.
Just turn Detroit into a giant wreckers yard.
Those Chinese are damn clever.
Clearly you haven't been there lately.
lol
Blame it on the brutal winter. Who could have foreseen that? Won't it be simpler to recall all their cars?
In other news, Prince Charles, another freeloader, compares Putin to Hitler:
Britain’s Prince Charles caused controversy on Wednesday after he reportedly compared Russian President Vladimir Putin to Adolf Hitler while on a trip to Canada.
Talking about Russia and the Ukraine to a Jewish woman who fled the Nazi invasion of Poland in 1939, the Prince was reported to have said: “And now Putin is doing just about the same as Hitler”.
The comments came just two weeks before the future king is due to meet Mr. Putin and other leaders at the 70th anniversary commemorations of the D-Day landings in Normandy, France.
http://www.thehindu.com/news/international/world/report-prince-charles-c...
The tampon speaks.
Your comment is spot on but might not be understood by the majority of ZH readers. You are of course referring to the private comment of Prine Charles to Camilla while they were having an affair that he wanted to be her tampon or words to that effect.
The problem with comparing Putin to Hitler is that it leaves you with few choices with whom to compare Obama and his masters to.
So, "Putin" is to "Hitler" like "Prince Charles" is to "Tampon". I like this game!
The emporer comes to mind but Darth Vader saves the day. I don't see that in this current script.
Prince who??
Yeah, but he means it as a compliment. Just like grampa!
Just observing
It makes one wonder, how do these guys keep a straight face?
luckily for GM, most of these cars are still on their lots or in their factories. i cant believe anyone still buys these pieces of shit.
Buyer "incentives"
why do all these recalls involve the chance of a fiery death?
They used to recall for things like trim clips that come loose or a seat adjuster that gets stuck... non-life-threatening stuff. If they had recalls for all that stuff PLUS all the recent "firery death" recalls that would be.... pretty much all the cars GM has built since 1998.
Important year for GM: 1998. That's when they started playing bidding wars between Delphi and Delco with the goal of building the cheapest possible electrical systems. Also the year that electrical problems in GM cars started to go through the roof. Conincidental, I'm sure.
That sort of top-down hardball (gun to knife-fight) is just the way Obama would make things more efficient for those dirty capitalists. Look into the "Dr.'s Fix" that Congress keeps gving us to forestall the Obamacare prescription for making healthcare more affordable, i.e. stop payin the providers of healthcare. More brilliant-ness from our Ivy League alumni.
Conveniently, the elected ruling political elite have passed a vote exempting themselves from obamascare. And all the incumbents won in their elections yesterday. WTF?
It's rigged.
Voting is rigged.
The Ignorati 'vote' for the name(s) they recognize.
Anyone else think that maybe GM is doing this on purpose? It seems like GM might be trying to punish the government for punishing them on the first recall. It's like a statement for GM to say, "We too are too big to fail so leave us alone or we'll destroy the stawk market!"
We are getting to the stage where we will not be able to recall the number of recalls there have been.
Is that a GM in the picture? WHAHAHAAHAAHAHA!!
Detroit is alive and Bin Laden is dead! Vote Obama 2012, just give it a little more time and the policies will kick in.
Detroit is alive and Bin Laden is dead! Vote Obama 2012, just give it a little more time and the policies will kick in.
For what it is worth, I've had a Cadillac ATS for a few months and it is fantastic.
apparently, GM has decided any lawsuits resulting from deaths due to their productions of these cars will be lower than the cost of a recall. fight club 101.
a few months? wait a year or two and watch it slowly give you problems.
3-Year lease, responsible for $0 in maintenance other than new tires. Won't be my problem.
for a few months
How about letting them go bankrupt? Void all the wortless union contracts and give each union worker one of the piece of shit cars they built that has been recalled.
Interesting to mention Microsoft in an article about GM recalls. What are we up to now on Windows Updates for another American-made product - Windows 8 - something like 1,048,576?
Don't buy foreign, buy American !
Eh, no thanks.
Soon to be renamed OM or ObamaMotors.
Only american cars/trucks I'll own are Fords.
This is what Russia is definitely not buying...
I guess GM's motto is....."close enough for government work".
Camaro problems
http://www.camaro5.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=70
I have a Yukon Denali XL. In 75k miles the transmission has had major work done on it no less than 6 different occassions. The first time was within days after purchase. Dealer stated they didn't do anything to it, "it just needs to be broken in". Next time I took it to a different dealer and they showed me where there was substanstial work done to it. About every 10-12k the transmission starts missing. Gears have been replaced on several occassions yet they refused to actually replace the transmission while it was under warranty. I can't imagine I'm the only one that has had this experience. Can't wait for this recall.
No Lemon law where you live ?
If you were asking me, from what I can tell it's 72 hours where I live. It doesn't appear to be eligible to have been classified as a true lemon. Can't say I know the details of the law but that is my impression. It appears these laws are by state but in reality it should be a federal law. The Feds control everything else, not sure why this is abdicated on a state by state basis.
I'm seriously considering the 2015 Denali.
Need a bigger car and hoping (not changing also) that this debacle will give me future leverage.
Hard to pull the trigger on the BS that is government motors.
I like the look of the new Denali, please someone, talk me out of this.
Buying a GM may very well decide how quick or soon you meet your maker. The only question is how you may go or how badly you may end up. Will you go by losing the brake ? Or where will fire breaks out when you are driving. Or will you lose your steering or accelerate and crash. A vehicle is supposedly take you from point A to point B safely and reliably. Not something looks pretty and may disfiguring you or kill your love one after you pay for it.
You see, that's the problem. GM actually does make decent looking cars/trucks lately, but mechanically/electrically, they suck. There are a lot of parallels here....
Purchasing a GM car is a vote that the bailout and subsequent screwing of everyone not a union worker is AOK. Who gives a shit about "look" when if that POS company was allowed to fold it would have actually saved people's fucking lives.
Buy a decent used car with a proven track record to not suck ass and break down every 15K. A bit more legwork to find, but vastly more satisfying to deny these cock suckers your money.
I don't believe anyone should buy any product, especially a car on the basis of politics or "nationalism" whatever. You may feel "patriotic" for a day but they don't give you a prize or special treatment when it starts going to shit. I bought this vehicle in 2007. I love the way it looks and drives unitl the transmission gets in the way of it driving. 3 boys made it more necessary for me to purchase a vehicle of this size.
This is not about politics or nationalism or patriotism, it's about what's right. GM is the embodiment of everything that is wrong with this country, and the bailout was morally reprehensible to the principles that this country was founded on. People died because of that and that is fact not hyperbole. The only power we have against these people fucking the shit out of us and our children's future is contained in our wallet. You choose not to exercise that power, and I won't begrudge you the freedom to make that choice.
I have two kids and bought a used minivan off of Craigslist last year for $2K under blue book driven by an old couple in immaculate condition. The only reason we bought it was because my 15 year old Saturn finally shit the bed. Took about 2 weeks of looking, but time well invested.
I'm in the camp of not buying GM because you think it's the "patriotic" thing to do. Not sure why that's worth down arrows. You are the one that has to be happy with what you buy because once you buy you're not given any special treatment so not sure why anyone would buy something based on politics or patriotism. You buy or dont' because it's either right for you or it's not. Not sure where the confusion lies.
Nothing to do with patriotism. Please read that several times, because you obviously missed it. Shit company with shit management, shit quality, and shit employees. I'm astounded you feel OK with buying things from them.
I like the look of the new Denali as well, but what I like more is the look of all those saps I see filling these monsters up every time I pass a petrol stop. Run her down close to empty and you can't even fill that bitch up for one Franklin. I know, I have an older Yukon that I don't drive often for that very fact.
If you are hell bent on a big SUV, at least consider the Ford Expedition EL. Better track record and plenty of power. Unless your pulling a Sherman tank, those extra horses in the GMC are just sitting there to be fed whether your towing something or not.
First Man at Auto Shop: Here's where the infant's head went through the wind-shield. Three points.
Man #2 at Auto Shop: The teenager's braces are still wrapped around the backseat ashtray. Might make a good anti-smoking ad.
First Man at Auto Shop: The driver must have been huge, see where the fat burned to the seat? The polyester shirt? Very modern art.
[they laugh]
I would suggest getting an extended warranty if you go through with this purcahse. Perhaps I got the only lemon transmission. It's possible but when you spend the amount of money I spent on this vehicle you expect a certain amount of reliabilty. I have a 2007 Yukon Denali XL and my wife has a 2011 Yukon Denali. I can't complain about the dealer service. In fact it was about the only reason we decided to go with another GM vehicle. Her 2011 is without incident. I don't regret her vehicle one bit. However as I stated my 2007 has been a problem virtually from day one. I blame part of it on this particular bad dealer. Once I changed, a month into ownership I've been happy from the dealer side.
The problem has come with corporate GM refusal to replace the transmission in whole choosing to continue to piece meal repairs replacing many parts through the life of the vehicle. I believe 2 new transmission could have been installed with the money spent on repairs of the original. Most of this was warranty work so it didn't seem like I had any control. This vehicle has 75k miles in 7 years of use. Obviously it's not an overuse or abuse situation. It pisses me off that I don't seem to have any recourse. To my mind it should have been classified as a lemon transmission and GM should be made to replace in whole. If a mechanism fails every 10-12k miles on a consistent basis then something stinks. Of course I had no way of knowing their fixes weren't going to work longterm. It has proven to be one bandaid after another.
I cannot imagine that customers have zero protection on any real personal level, especially from a GM that not only takes as much money as a customer is going to pay on one end and also all Americans have been forced to pay through the nose bailout wise from the other end. Talk about double dipping.
GM is acting as if they have no obligation to do it better for its customers and the American Taxpayer given the immense benefits they have received. The government didn't give them the money. The people did. That seems to be lost. The government slaps them with fines yet the customers nor the taxpayer really see or feel benefits from their malfeasance. It makes a good headline but I'm curious as to what happens with all the corporate fines the governement takes in. It is quickly forgotten by all but we still have to bear the burdens of financing the troubled company. Instead of cleaning up their act, it appears its business as usual. Very bad form on both the government and the corporation.
Good luck on your decision. A good dealer goes a long way. Oh and if you do get this vehicle I would caution against getting black with tinted windows. Thats what I got and while it looks really good this vehicle has been profiled more than once causing me problems with the law. I've been pulled over several times, detained in Texas without breaking any road laws as my information was being checked out. Immediatly put into the back seat of the cop car, first time ever, and made to wait 30-45 minutes. As I was being released, having no understanding as to why this was happening the cop stated that many drug dealers use this same type of vehicle for drug running and most the times it has booster and baby seats with 20lbs of drugs underneath the seats. Pretend Mom's or Dad's running drugs. I pointed out it was also very similar to most government vehicles as well and wondered why he didn't assume I was with "The Authority" I guess that's a story for another day.
Never underestimate the power of assholishness. Back in the day, I got a full, no-questions-asked refund on a pos used oldsmobile.
Had been to the service dept. two or three times and got no joy from the 'repairs'. So, next trip I walked into the salesman's office (who was with a customer), threw the keys down on his desk, and told him loudly and forcefully what I thought of him and his dealership.
Got a check within 5 minutes.
I looked into a Denali also.
Having to use 93 octane at 10 mpg talked me out of it. That was before the recall-a-day.
If looks do not matter as much (they shouldn't at your age), consider a Honda Pilot.
I know it's hard to find an SUV that is not for midgets or rappers. But the Pilot is somewhere in between.
Buy a pimpish sedan as a second car for those times you need to roll lookin' fly.
It looks great
Gone are the good old days when adjusting your position in the seat could cause your foot to penetrate the flooring and be ripped from your leg on the pavement passing underneath your Corvair. Or when a 20mph rear-ender could cause your Pinto to burst into flames and cook your children in the back seat.
They don't make-em like they used to.
You know, between shit like this and the upcoming mandatory blackboxes that will undoubtedly be used against drivers, I think I'll build my next cars.
This looks good for hauling ass in the sun:
http://us.caterhamcars.com/
And perhaps this becomes my more "utilitarian" vehicle:
http://localmotors.com/rallyfighter/
Fuck government motors. I'm guessing they'll ask for a third bail out due to all these recalls. Dicks.
https://www.factoryfive.com/
Plan on doing this for my kids on their 15th birthday, and I figure the project will take them about a year in weekends to build. Teaches time management, dicipline, working to a plan, and they will be less likely to do something dumb if they spent the last year building it.
I like how you think. I plan to do the same. It seems like a fantastic way to spend a summer if you ask me.
Funny ....for years I've noticed GM trucks and SUVs have one of the two front running lights out . I mentioned it to a pal of mine not long ago with the passenger side light out. He said it's supposed to be that way ( in other words, he had never noticed it because he's inside the truck driving it ). Weird weird weird world.
were they using interns to design cars ? I think Chinese and Indians can companies may be better than GM already.
No. They were just using faulty parts that they had outsourced and imported from ...
Okay, I really don't know. So I got 50% chance of being right ( and 50% chance of being wrong ).
Oh fer chrissakes already! They need to stop fiddling around and just issue a nationwide alert...
"Anyone with a GM vehicle should stop driving it immediately. If you are currently behind the wheel of a GM vehicle, do NOT panic...ease the vehicle off to the side of the road and exit quickly, putting as much distance between yourself and the vehicle as possible, then call 911 for assistance.
If the GM vehicle is currently in your garage, go out NOW and close the door to confine the vehicle, call 911, then shelter in place in the home until help arrives. If unable to reach a phone, make your way to the roof of your shelter and set off flares to summon assistance. Under NO circumstances should you approach the vehicle, or attempt to interact with it in any way.
The NHTSA, in conjunction with the Air National Guard, will begin targeted removal of these vehicles on Monday, using the car's GPS to coordinate surgical airstrikes. All citizens are urged to stay at least 1/4 mile away from any known GM products until further notice...."
If the vehicle makes any noise, run and get yer scissors, stat!
GM is what you get when you let green eyeshade rolled up sleves held in place with rubber bands BEANCOUNTERS run a company. that coupled with a cozy overpaid under talented management who never negotiated properly with unions and unions that killed the goose. Planned obsolescence is a ripoff and that was the GM philosophy.. Bailing out GM for the union's sake is central planning at its best. Taxpayers paid for the bailout, the unions benefits and now the lawsuits.... Triple play... Socialism wins again... How many deaths? How many devastated families? The GM cunt was involved and NO ONE GOES TO JAIL.... this is why capitalism works.....shit companies FAIL.... GM is what you get when you revive the dead.... a FRANKENSTEIN whch kills people.
All those union guys must be smokin' weed again. What do they care about "quality" when they won't lose their jobs?
Why is it their fault?
I do not approve of this gross misappropriation of my tax dollars.
I always tried to make a point of buying Made in USA, support the neighbor's economy and all, but never GM.
Stop making shitboxes.
GM is in reactive panic mode.
They're NOT recalls, GM is just experimenting with finishing car assembly at the dealers...Someone is SURE to be promoted over this....
Maybe cars have just gotten way too complicated? Every vehicle I've bought in the last 20 years has had at least one of the electronic windows stop working, usually shortly after the warranty ends. As far as I'm concerned, the more electronics, the more stuff there is to potentially break down. Which is why when I had to replace my old washer after 23 years, I kept to the basic twist dial.
Maybe we just were not meant to drive an electronic smorgasboard down bumpy roads.
They could make it all last if they wanted to.
Gotta admit that we have now entered the era of unnecessary added complexity but I do hope that I manage to get electric mirrors on my next vehicle. Adjusting the one on the opposite side can be a real pain, and some vehicles don't have much visibility there.
American exceptionalism!
My Honda Accord just got another new timing belt/water pump 100,000 mile service. Cruising at 305,000 miles. Great car.
Ya, but a go cart can last 305,000 miles too. You still have to drive it that long. yikes.
GM Government Motors, may be the Government can learn from them and introduce a recall system for our elected officials.
I remember being told that FIAT stood for Fix It Again Toni.
Trying to come up with something in the same lines with the leters GM.
May be the cars at GM should be re-branded as MR2 but said in a french accent "Merdue" Hit Merde is french for sh1t
Go to the GM corporate website and it has links to contact them by for questions or concerns about your vehicle. So I hit the link to contact them and the website is conveniently down. Hmmm.....
It seems that GM nay have adopted the software business model,
Sell it first, get it working later, using your customer's experience for development testing.
I can hardly wait for the first Beta version of the 2016 Corvette.
I don't feel bad for Government Motors. They are a sign of the times as far as I am concerned. Inferior US automaker that places short term profits and open handed bailouts in front of long term financial viability. If they folded it we be a full circle.
How long before some of the engineers at GM go "Postal"?
Fucking Matchbox cars are built better.
"Rolling sarcophagus" Oops, I forgot that memo
"Kevorkianesque" Damn, I did it again.
"Piece of shit. Yeah, that's not in the memo. "Pience of shit" it is.
total number of vehicles recalled by the company since January to 13.8 million
total recalls for the year to 15.4 million vehicles
OK, which is it?
These guys are always 10-15 years behind the Germans. I would take a 20 year old mercedes over any new GM car. They are simply shit from head to toe...paint, materials, chinese parts etc People will actually sit there and argue with me that the product is good and getting better. It is that mythical unicorn from their BULLSHIT advertising people keep believing every 5-10 years.
Now the trucks are a different story...that is all they do well.
This is tbtf in action.
The good news is no Oldsmobiles were recalled. The bad news, GM doesn't make them anymore.
As long as GM is run by MBA's I won't work for them or buy their product.
GM went broke, laid off everyone but the MBA managers who broke the company in the first place.
Now they engineers are all temps, and so are the trades.
Fuck GM and its top heavy entitled MBA executive culture.
who pays for these recalls? Is this out of pocket expense for GM and/or tax payers, or are recall costs covered in some sort of insurance covearage? The latter would make sense being as GM are also bleeding from slow retail sales and a good healthy insurance claim would help stem more losses
Other than the melting/burning dashboard light, cables causing bad gear shifts, faulty air bags, failure of cruise control/traction control/braking assist/stability control, loss of headlamps, failure of hydraulic brake boost, windshield wiper failure, steering rack failure, inaccurate gas gauge, acceleration lag, leaking fuel tank causing fire risk, loss of power steering, fire risk from leaking oil line, right front wheels coming loose, electronic stability control malfunctions, ignition switch defects, rollaway risk from transmission shift cable, seat-mounted side airbag failure, brake corrosion leading to engine compartment fires, exhaust overheat and engine stalls, these cars seem like a pretty good deal.
Should have let GM go bankrupt.
I say the U.S. really looks like the ol soviet union now, GM is the new old Russian Lada http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v393/youricarma/Miscellaneous/Colligno...
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