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China's "Strike First" Anti-Terrorist Policy Fails Again - Explosion Hits China's Xinjiang Region, Multiple Deaths

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It appears yet again that China's "strike first" anti-terrorism policy has failed as explosions have rocked Urumqi, the capital city of China's unrest-plagued Xinjiang Uyghur Autonomous region, killing (and injuring) multiple (but unknown) people. Social media suggests 2 SUVs entered the crowded market in the center of the city ploughing down onlookers, throwing explosives from the cars, before a blast was heard. One witness noted that the cars were painted with "uighur" language slogans. Flames and heavy smoke were seen nearby, police are on the scene and the 2 SUVs are being removed. There is no official death or injury count as of yet.



Via Western Australia Today,

Social Media witnesses...

One witness, 76-year-old Fang Zhaoying, was tending her daughter’s grocery store near the market when she heard a few loud explosions and saw lying on the ground.


“The blasts were loud as anything,” she said via telephone. “I went outside to look and saw people lying on the  ground, before people told me to go back inside.”


Ms Fang said the explosion occurred during the morning peak for the market, which was known to be more commonly frequented by Han Chinese. She estimated there were at least hundreds lining the streets at the time of the blast.


Another purported witness, Zhang Xiaoning, posted on China’s Twitter-like Weibo that two vehicles drove through the crowded market streets, ploughing through shoppers, before hearing several explosions blasts soon after.


“I managed to react quickly and jumped out of the way,” he posted. “I looked back, and [people] were all lying on the road.”


He said the second car he saw speed through was painted  with “Uighur language” slogans and had triangular flags stuck  to it. His posts were swiftly removed by internet censors.

Social Unrest is on the rise...

Unlike most of the rest of China which is predominantly Han Chinese, many parts of Xinjiang -- an expansive region
which shares borders with eight countries including Russia, Afghanistan and Pakistan -- remain largely home to the native Uighurs, a predominantly Muslim, Turkic-speaking ethnic group. According to a 2010 census, Xinjiang's 22 million population comprises of 43 per cent Uighur, 40 per cent Han Chinese, with the rest made up of other minority groups.

But fast-paced development and an associated influx of Han Chinese economic migrants has seen larger cities in Xinjiang, including Urumqi, transform almost unrecognisably, sparking tensions among Uighurs who chafe at government policies they say discriminate against them and restrict their religious freedoms. 

Xinjiang has been plagued by ethnic unrest, with China attributing a series of escalating knife and bomb attacks in recent months to separatist Uighur militants from Xinjiang.

Last month an explosion killed three and injured at least 79 at a central train station in Urumqi, in an attack that coincided with the high-profile visit of President Xi Jinping to the region.

 On March 1, knife-wielding attackers slashed indiscriminately at passengers at a train station in Kunming, in south-western Yunnan province, killing 29 and wounding more than 130.  

It seems the "fists and daggers" of local police are not working.

Internet censors are rapidly removing images from Weibo but here are some...


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Wed, 05/21/2014 - 23:26 | 4783724 y3maxx
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...No doubt friends...a CIA False Flag event...

Wed, 05/21/2014 - 23:27 | 4783728 Pinto Currency
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Should never have signed that natural gas deal with Russia.

Wed, 05/21/2014 - 23:36 | 4783745 DeadFred
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The vans came by boat from Vietnam by way of the Gulf of Tonkin

Wed, 05/21/2014 - 23:38 | 4783752 Slave
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They hate them because of their freedom.

Wed, 05/21/2014 - 23:40 | 4783761 Pinto Currency
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Desperation time.

Same techniques will be applied as Libya, Syria, Ukraine, etc.

Thu, 05/22/2014 - 00:12 | 4783811 DoChenRollingBearing
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This is yet another item supporting my contention that the USA does not have to worry about the BRICs.  ALL of them have big internal problems, bigger than our own.  Demographics in the case of scary Russia and scary China.

India and Brazil?  Please.  Brazil is working on not screwing up hosting the World Cup (spending billion$ on those two boondoggles).  India may, way in the future, rise to become great, they are a democracy that might be able to work out their own fundamental problems.

The way the USA falls is if we let it, by our own internal rot and corruption (very possible).  It will (likely) not be due to Russia and China doing a NatGas deal, however large.  

Besides, who would want CHINA as a neighbor for the long run...?

Thu, 05/22/2014 - 00:17 | 4783823 Anusocracy
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They have big internal problems with the big internal problems the US is fomenting there.

Thu, 05/22/2014 - 00:28 | 4783837 So What
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How do CIA get the weapons and explosive to the muslim in that area? Better yet, let's call for a Jihad and import Arab fighters to aid their Muslim brothers in Western China.
It's time those shit eating Chinese learn to respect human beings, Tibetans etc. Everyone needs to have a little space to live, not just the Hans Chinese, the only people on the planet who can think of scooping shit out of sewer to eat.
Anyhow, this is just getting interesting.

Thu, 05/22/2014 - 02:53 | 4783981 napper
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How? by using the brains of CIA officers, well-trained field operatives, lots and lots of money, connections, weapons, drugs, dedicated and classified transport equipment, and the help of the recipients ... to name a few.


It's understandable that you can't figure out how, since you don't have any of that, especially the brains, money, and real experience.

Thu, 05/22/2014 - 03:13 | 4783992 ebworthen
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Islam has a problem.

Thu, 05/22/2014 - 05:22 | 4784038 Manthong
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SUV’s and vans don't kill people, people kill people.


I have remarked in the past that a dedicated maniac can wreak more havoc with a good, gassed up 4WD on a busy and crowded venue that any similar maniac can with whatever explosives or weaponry (belted, bladed or firearms) he can personally carry --  open or concealed.


That goes for many things that roll, fly or float at speed.


When it comes to crowded venues, large populous cities are target rich environments.


The problem is not the implements.. it is the prevailing policy.


Thu, 05/22/2014 - 06:07 | 4784057 negative rates
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Get er done.

Thu, 05/22/2014 - 06:22 | 4784073 svayambhu108
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You can know a job by its execution style its like when you see PR, you say, Aha, Edward Bernays, you see conditioning, you say aha Pavlov, you say suicide bombings you say CIA, although I recall the first suicide bombers were jews.

They perfected too well this technique to be able to use other.


Thu, 05/22/2014 - 07:52 | 4784181 Manthong
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Pavlov.. Bernays..

if we could only educate the kids properly about these guys. 

if you purport yourself to be a teacher.. get some Constitutional religion... NOW .

Thu, 05/22/2014 - 00:32 | 4783839 DoChenRollingBearing
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Oh, please.  They cause the bulk of their problems themselves, whatever little scummy games our CIA (et al) is up to means very little.


-- Bad demographics caused by CHINESE one-child policy

-- Big supporters of Iran and N Korea (uh, your friends?)

-- World's largest polluters, air & water


-- It's not the USA that could cut-off Europe's NatGas supplies...

-- Open your yap vs, Putin and it's off to Siberia for you (or you die)

-- Russian corruption is even worse than ours...


I could go on...

Thu, 05/22/2014 - 01:33 | 4783911 old naughty
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While we are looking SE, boom in NW.

While we are looking at C, or C+R, or BRICS...boom somewhere else likely.

As Brandon Smith said in another thread: " ...The East vs. West paradigm is a sham of the highest order."

Not what it seems...the invincible hand stirring.

No country for (any) men !


Thu, 05/22/2014 - 05:27 | 4784045 Manthong
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A lot of folks see Greece as a highly levered lynchpin to a larger unsettling..

Maybe 'Nam is more important in that regard now.

Thu, 05/22/2014 - 02:06 | 4783943 joego1
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True enough, seems like the world is collectively in rot mode. Just keep the nukes in the silos please.

Thu, 05/22/2014 - 07:36 | 4784046 Manthong
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.mil won't be pulling the trigger on societal destruction.

the trigger has already been pulled by rhe greedy, godless goons in .gov. and the banks

when I look at that condescending press briefing bitch that is touting the state department party line to the press, I want to puke.

Thu, 05/22/2014 - 04:57 | 4784031 TheFourthStooge-ing
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Has Victoria Nuland been passing out misfortune cookies?

Thu, 05/22/2014 - 06:05 | 4784052 Manthong
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geez.. y'know..  think about Hillary, Yellen, Mary Jo, Noodleland, Jen Psaki, Valerie Jarret, the Wookie and their ilk..

you R f'd. by the so-called women (who are just meglomaniac control freaks in skirts).

Ok.. so maybe I R just a sexist.. at least I am not a racist.

Thu, 05/22/2014 - 11:53 | 4784964 Cathartes Aura
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lol, Man-thong,

the *tell* is that you can make a list of all yer Missus,

but haven't the life-time

to list the fuck'd brought on by the mens.

read some books? 

HISTORY is tipped towards a certain "half" of the world

demo'd graphic.

Thu, 05/22/2014 - 14:27 | 4785601 Manthong
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maybe thats why society seems hell-bent on smoothing out and metro-izing men.

arouse inner amazonian ?

when we are all homo, what's the diff?

Fri, 05/23/2014 - 13:37 | 4789144 Cathartes Aura
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I'd call it "culture" rather than "society". . . cultures are guided by the top down, abetted with advertising products, sold for profits.

so consider:  the "women" culture is saturated with personal amendment-products, sold in ladies-mags. . . who to turn to for more $$'s earned?  push the peacocks into purchasing! 

and dandy-ism isn't new, just revived with bigger sales targets.  the inherent attraction of men-to-men rarely goes away, with "women" being the objectified sex-target, no homo bro! - and yet. . . only men earn each others respect.

Rome fell upon itSelf in the End. . . echoes.


((ps: like cultured-gender is like voting - you can *pick a side* - or you can opt out of the whole story.  no, really.))

Wed, 05/21/2014 - 23:41 | 4783754 Pinto Currency
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Wed, 05/21/2014 - 23:41 | 4783762 IridiumRebel
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Straight up the Burma Road.

Thu, 05/22/2014 - 02:05 | 4783926 napper
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The Vietnamese don't engage in this kind of low tactics, and I don't believe they have adopted the British/American ways of conducting adversarial diplomacy with China.

Wed, 05/21/2014 - 23:36 | 4783746 SumTing Wong
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Who is going to make the first joke about "Uighur" language being on the SUV? Somebody's getting banned tonight. You just won't be able to make it through without some Vanilla Ice comment. Oh shit. Might it be me?

Thu, 05/22/2014 - 00:33 | 4783816 DoChenRollingBearing
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My money would be on Mark Steyn.  I love the sarcastic bast**d, he does not take ANY crap from the Left.


Thu, 05/22/2014 - 14:46 | 4785633 Manthong
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we gerna git up and we gerning git going pertty quick now. 



Wed, 05/21/2014 - 23:37 | 4783747 Troll Magnet
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I hate China but man, those people didn't do nothing wrong.
Fucking cowards. Fucking assholes. Fuck you terrorists!

Thu, 05/22/2014 - 03:21 | 4783993 ebworthen
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Those crazy Islamic Jihadists think killing innocent people is in the name of God.

What has happened to that peaceful, loving religion?  Do they not love others?

Not that other faiths are perfect, but Islam has a very big problem.

Thu, 05/22/2014 - 14:53 | 4785731 Manthong
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geez.. thyere is not much to hate in China but for policy and the pollution (same thing?).

and.. you cannot be much enamored with US kleptocrat/oligarch/bank policy anymoar


Wed, 05/21/2014 - 23:48 | 4783774 kchrisc
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Sorry, can't be because there were no Facebook and donation sites set up a month before.

Thu, 05/22/2014 - 07:14 | 4784126 TN Jed
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You do realize those donation pages, that looked like they were predated, were just opportunists who changed the page title after the incident but the incept date stays the same.

Thu, 05/22/2014 - 02:07 | 4783945 Confused
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My guess is not the CIA. 


It would appear Orwell was right. Its that pesky Emanuel Goldstein again. The Oligarchs in all areas will continue to consolidate power and intimidate their peoples. Then they will continue to play chess with each other at our expense. 

Wed, 05/21/2014 - 23:29 | 4783733 Hongcha
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How do you contain 10 million people?  It's not like they are outnumbered like the Tibetans; and they are aggressive, Muslims not Buddhists.  Big problems.

Thu, 05/22/2014 - 00:55 | 4783820 DoChenRollingBearing
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Yes, Xinjiang is a much more diffiicult for the Chinese central government.  Tough shi'ite, they took it over, now it's theirs.  Ha ha.  Have fun!

Thu, 05/22/2014 - 06:17 | 4784067 Leraconteur
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It's China.

You kill them.

Wed, 05/21/2014 - 23:34 | 4783735 LetThemEatRand
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I can't wait for the day that the U.S. and China officially call each other terr'ists in their own media.   Does it still work when you call an entire country a terr'ist?  Ask Iraq, Iran, and Afghanistan.  And I seem to recall that Ukraine called pro-Russians terr'ists and vice-versa.  Let's all plant a garden with Gatorade.  It will grow faster.

Wed, 05/21/2014 - 23:35 | 4783744 Dr. Engali
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You should probably throw Russia in that list.

Wed, 05/21/2014 - 23:58 | 4783788 Flagit
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In Mother Russia, Russia throws you on list.

Thu, 05/22/2014 - 00:02 | 4783794 Slave
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In USSA, NSA throws you on list.

Thu, 05/22/2014 - 01:03 | 4783880 jonjon831983
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And you wonder how China feels about parts of the world supporting what China labels a dangerous "cult" like Falun Gong.

Wed, 05/21/2014 - 23:30 | 4783736 Dr. Engali
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I guess stupidity is a global phenomenon. These idiots never blow up the people who are the root of the problem, which leads me to believe this is probably another false flag.

Wed, 05/21/2014 - 23:32 | 4783739 Four chan
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that is annoying.

Thu, 05/22/2014 - 00:24 | 4783829 Anusocracy
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In China, the government is the problem.

In a democracy, the voters and the government are the problem.

Wed, 05/21/2014 - 23:37 | 4783748 IridiumRebel
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I had to look twice to make sure I wasn't looking at photos of the Boston Bombing.

Wed, 05/21/2014 - 23:44 | 4783768 LetThemEatRand
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I checked.  No white guys with tan pants, hats with skull insignia, and black boots.  Different group.

Thu, 05/22/2014 - 00:03 | 4783801 IridiumRebel
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How do you say Academi in Uighur?

Thu, 05/22/2014 - 01:42 | 4783919 TheReplacement
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I say it just like you - Academi in Uighur?

Thu, 05/22/2014 - 06:16 | 4784064 Leraconteur
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...and this is why you guys who think everything is a conspiracy are to be discounted.

People with intelligence and visual acuity look at the photos and instantly, a few hundred milliseconds, see that the photos look nothing like the Boston Bombing.

You guys have very poor powers of observation, and you cannot tell one thing from another. When one brings in your total lack of any STEM education, your distrust and skepticism of everything, you get your belief system.

Notice how views like yours became more prevelant online as the cost of computers and broadband access dropped so that the lower classes and less educated could post online?

The final cohort, who came online after your group, were the mentally ill with the Morgellons and such.

The more you downvote this comment, the more you prove that I am correct.

Thu, 05/22/2014 - 08:10 | 4784217 Raging Debate
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Leraconteur - I guess I'm your huckleberry and downvoted you. There are lots of intelligent people that didn't win the vagina lottery. Many started small businesses and are innovators.

The social contract was completely broken in 2008. Lawlessness rules. Those without means to afford to live would be doing mass protests, no Internet in other words and the outlet would change. Of course the sentiment is negative here in America there are now two sets of laws and we're returning to feudalism.

The result of people unable to afford to live is violence. Use violence to suppress it you get more of the same and the costs of security and loss of opportunity spreads to the ruling class.

Alternative media has arisen because mainstream media works with governments. They don't highlight corruption because of fear of loss. The reporting is on politics near all the time.

What your really pointing out is a market opportunity to reconnect government and the people, neutral news reporting so at least we all can get facts and make up our own minds instead of being steered. The people were steered into debt and paying a military to protect trade which did not benefit them. Now that they speak up and emulate the same methods of government in steering your upset?

Government wanted everybody in fear to enrich themselves and they did. Special interests and government used divide and conquer politics. The results are a population which is paranoid and unable to identify friend from foe. The fish rots from the head down. Now Americans emulate the values of our government which are sociopathic tendencies. It is a jungle out here and the ape man knows who the jailers are. Not good.

I did try to introduce a neutral news service in 2007 and I had done some work for Jeb Bush. He liked the idea and recommended I have a meeting with Pete Peterson. But the response was "we don't know you". I wasn't part of the club. So that attitude carries on to today. So either fill the market void or sit down and shut up.

The Internet is a great leveler of vagina lotteries. If it takes a couple decades of exposure to solid facts amidst selfies oh well. You do know the best actors, musicians, authors and scientists are bi-polar don't you?
I know some they are brilliant to speak to online and channel there gifts well there but I admit I do not like spending time with them outside of that.

Thu, 05/22/2014 - 12:02 | 4785007 Cathartes Aura
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I downvoted you for the "vagina lottery" non-sense.

make your points without using something you obviously don't possess.

find a more appropriate target for your hate.

Thu, 05/22/2014 - 10:40 | 4784681 napper
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I don't think that line is meant to be read literally.

Wed, 05/21/2014 - 23:33 | 4783742 napper
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Is it possible that the terrorist attack has been a US / CIA protest to the Sino-Russian energy deal?

Thu, 05/22/2014 - 00:56 | 4783874 intric8
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Wow, terrorism of a non-muslim origin!

Our government has beat it into my head that either iranians or iraqis are behind these kinds of acts. My brane cant reconcile this.

Thu, 05/22/2014 - 01:42 | 4783921 TheReplacement
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What is the predominant religion of the Uighurs?

Thu, 05/22/2014 - 01:20 | 4783892 intric8
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Thu, 05/22/2014 - 01:54 | 4783917 napper
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The US and Israel have been sponsors AND perpetrators of terrorism for a long time.


If you are in the US, you would have very limited accurate coverage of state terrorism by Israel in the Middle East. The mainstream media simply will not touch Israel, for obvious reasons.

Similarly, all covert and overt US murders / assassinations / military operations in Libya, Syria, Sudan, Yemen, Afghanistan, Iraq, Pakistan, Venezuela, Ukraine etc have been terrorist actions. What have you been hearing from the mainstream media?

Do you have any doubt that 9/11 was a high-tech terrorist operation plotted and executed by a small group of highly placed and powerful / influential / well-connected figures in the US (and perhaps Israel and the UK)?

Whenever there is a large scale terrorist operation (like 9/11), the usual suspects (and likely culprits) would be (1) the US, (2) Israel, (3) the UK, and (4) any combination of the three.

Thu, 05/22/2014 - 02:05 | 4783942 Herd Redirectio...
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The Western media has assured me that each time a drone fires a Hellfire missile, ONLY ENEMY COMBATANTS/TERRORISTs (and terroristy offspring, perhaps) are killed.

Thu, 05/22/2014 - 02:11 | 4783947 The_Prisoner
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Why wouldn't you believe the western media? They are champions of ethics and empathy and are in no way part of the same cohort of those putting together the power point slides for the weekly kill list review /S

watch this:

Wed, 05/21/2014 - 23:34 | 4783743 g'kar
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War of the bankers, the saga never ends.

Wed, 05/21/2014 - 23:41 | 4783764 erg
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Yup, blow up shit and blame the enemy.

It's so crazy it might work.

The bigger the lie...and all that.

Thu, 05/22/2014 - 00:14 | 4783818 Crawdaddy
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Chinese party: The Uighurs hate us for our freedom.

Wed, 05/21/2014 - 23:50 | 4783766 Dr. Engali
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The bankers and political class are really fucking things up and the appropriate response is to go blow up some poor schmuck trying to scratch out a living......... Yeah right..... I believe that's what happened like I believe Zero actually sleeps with that wookie of his.

Thu, 05/22/2014 - 00:03 | 4783785 erg
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They're increasingly falling behind the information curve and they know it. Thus the naked desperation.

And that's what it is. That's why we begin to hear about an internet tax or ID, fairness doctrine, a two-tiered internet.

Let's keep their moldering flesh over the coals of ceaseless scrutiny.

Edit: As the late Bob Chapman would say, "We're breathing down their necks."

Wed, 05/21/2014 - 23:46 | 4783770 kchrisc
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To all those still in unicorn land about Boston "Boom," that is what a real bombing looks like.

I'm just saying.

Wed, 05/21/2014 - 23:51 | 4783777 Spungo
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"Does it still work when you call an entire country a terr'ist?"

Yes. Terrorism was the trigger of WW1. Austria-Hungary's leader was assassinated by a terrorist group called the Black Hand that had links to the Serbian government. Austria-Hungary blamed the entire country of Serbia for this attack. So, yes, entire countries are held accountable when terrorism strikes.

Thu, 05/22/2014 - 00:02 | 4783798 kchrisc
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All of those outside "The Party" are "terrorists."

Wed, 05/21/2014 - 23:58 | 4783787 Mr. Pickles
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Uighurs. Sunni. Turkmen. Probably 1/2 or more of them descendants of Ghenghis. CIA funded? Good luck, China, this is gonna hurt.

Thu, 05/22/2014 - 07:08 | 4784115 Zwelgje
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Turks are not Mongolians, they would love to be but aren't. 

Thu, 05/22/2014 - 00:00 | 4783792 Seize Mars
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Let me take a wild guess.

33 dead?

Thu, 05/22/2014 - 01:06 | 4783882 mumcard
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Ah, you noticed that too?  An internet search of 33 dead brings up a ton of stories.

Thu, 05/22/2014 - 03:35 | 4784009 Grumbleduke
Thu, 05/22/2014 - 06:14 | 4784061 negative rates
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When I read it it said 4 dead in OhiO.

Thu, 05/22/2014 - 00:06 | 4783804 EHM
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They should just build a big wall to keep out the terrorists.

Thu, 05/22/2014 - 07:48 | 4784176 Sabibaby
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They should also start a War on Terror campaign.

Thu, 05/22/2014 - 00:09 | 4783807 sangell
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Looks like there is a Muslim problem flowing into China via another Russian 'pipeline' and its already completed. Hows that alliance with Bashar Assad working out for you Vlad? China and you are the new Great Satans!

Thu, 05/22/2014 - 00:22 | 4783827 DoChenRollingBearing
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That's a very good observation.   Muslim flow from Russia into China, mmm...  IMO, the current "alliance" between Russia and China is strictly for short-term convenience.  They can try to take down the dollar, but it is only US that can do it (by our own policies and failures).  China will likely want Siberia for themselves.  Will we listen when Russia comes to us begging for help in 2025?  Ahh, nope!

BRICs do not make me lose any sleep...

Thu, 05/22/2014 - 01:17 | 4783893 The_Prisoner
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BRICS shouldn't make you lose sleep. Your bigger problem is closer to home. Much closer.

Thu, 05/22/2014 - 00:35 | 4783846 Sticky Wicket
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State Department is on the case. They are writing a REALLY mean tweet!

Thu, 05/22/2014 - 05:22 | 4784041 Yes We Can. But...
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Oh no.  Does this mean I gotta see Jen Psaki again?  Her parents must be so proud of their little propagandist.

Thu, 05/22/2014 - 00:45 | 4783857 bankonzhongguo
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This stuff happens all the time out there. It is just not reported.

It's called the "Big West."

Purportedly if you get convicted with the right sized crime in China, you have the option of being sent to the Big West or going to prison.  Most folks pick prison.

That place is hard on the Han.

Thu, 05/22/2014 - 08:43 | 4784321 Chaos_Theory
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I thought the "Big West" was when they are sent to man all the laundromats in Europe and North America...

Thu, 05/22/2014 - 00:48 | 4783861 The_Prisoner
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German Foreign Minister Steinmeier chucked a fit when he was interrupted during a speech by anti-Fascist demonstrators who were accusing the German regime of supporting Fascists in the Ukraine.

Thu, 05/22/2014 - 01:23 | 4783900 intric8
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its only a matter of time before the u.s. and israel themselves become legitimate state sponsors of terrorism to counter the recent shift in balance of power. Govt sanctioned harrassment in various and violent forms against russia and china will be a growth industry! I just hope they dont recruit homeless, non-ideological arabs to do their dirty work. They get a bad enough rap as it is.

Thu, 05/22/2014 - 02:04 | 4783938 napper
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I was wondering what happened to your post earlier after I had replied. (A dot replaced the original post. LOL) So you've moved it here.



The US and Israel have been sponsors AND perpetrators of terrorism for a long time.


If you are in the US, you would have very limited accurate coverage of state terrorism by Israel in the Middle East. The mainstream media simply will not touch Israel, for obvious reasons.

Similarly, all covert and overt US murders / assassinations / military operations in Libya, Syria, Sudan, Yemen, Afghanistan, Iraq, Pakistan, Venezuela, Ukraine etc have been terrorist actions. What have you been hearing from the mainstream media?

Do you have any doubt that 9/11 was a high-tech terrorist operation plotted and executed by a small group of highly placed and powerful / influential / well-connected figures in the US (and perhaps Israel and the UK)?

Whenever there is a large scale terrorist operation (like 9/11), the usual suspects (and likely culprits) would be (1) the US, (2) Israel, (3) the UK, and (4) any combination of the three.

Thu, 05/22/2014 - 02:37 | 4783968 intric8
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Right napper, though we well know the stereotypical american views such as conspiracy theorizing. We can present hard evidence but most influencial media sources will choose to bury it rather than have it see the light of day. Thus, the masses remain ignorant and uninformed.

We can all count on more illicit activity (terrorist or otherwise) directed against china and russia to disrupt their relationships going forward, and it will be interesting to see who gets the blame/takes responsibiltiy for it

Thu, 05/22/2014 - 01:35 | 4783913 reader2010
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According to Wiki, The East Turkestan Islamic Movement (After the 9/11 attacks )was placed on the United States' Terrorist Exclusion List. That tells you everything you need to know.

Thu, 05/22/2014 - 01:36 | 4783914 boeing747
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Deaths are most of their own people. Looks like China needs to hire anti-ter experts from Israel and build a gaza strip in that province.


Thu, 05/22/2014 - 06:14 | 4783915 matrix2012
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You only need some die-hard brown zealots funded by foreign agencies to create deaths and terrors across those innocent civilians, be it in public park, train station, in the market, or any place the terrorists may create havoc.

It's up to Chinese govt entirely to go all out and take all the necessary measures to deny such atrocities towards those innocent civilians. Perhaps they can learn some lessons from Russian in Chechen.

They must exterminate the terrorist roots by any means.

Thu, 05/22/2014 - 02:02 | 4783935 orangegeek
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Only the start

Thu, 05/22/2014 - 02:04 | 4783937 Jano
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They apply still the death sentence in China.
China just go ahead and solve the problem.

Thu, 05/22/2014 - 02:17 | 4783951 Schmuck Raker
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But, but, but..... bayonets!

Thu, 05/22/2014 - 02:22 | 4783957 Mr. Delicious
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Does Xianxiang have Jewish oligarchs?  if so, and if they are responsible, I expect the press to blame Putin.

Thu, 05/22/2014 - 02:30 | 4783961 The_Prisoner
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No Jewish oligarchs in Xinjiang. They stir things up via their errand boy Bandar (Bush).



Thu, 05/22/2014 - 03:09 | 4783966 Schmuck Raker
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"Prince Charles 'compared actions to '


Who the fuck is Prince Charles???

And why should I think he's any less the useful idiot than McCain????

Thu, 05/22/2014 - 03:01 | 4783987 q99x2
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Where was Cheney and Rumsfeld when it happened?

Thu, 05/22/2014 - 03:09 | 4783989 q99x2
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If it is not a globalist false flag then we should expect major things to start to fall down as well as oligarchs and verious symbols that are representative of oligarchical domains.

Thu, 05/22/2014 - 03:35 | 4784005 Dre4dwolf
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Maybe all these Muslims aren't terrorists, maybe they are mistaking nitroglycerin for vodka and just don't know how to drive?

In any case:


They are all terrorists in my book.

Thu, 05/22/2014 - 06:07 | 4784055 rgetty
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Well not really a surprise. The Chinese want to invade everywhere and what do they expect. This is just the beginning in a few years you will see this in other parts of the world with large Chinese populations. I am waiting for it to happen in Africa, there are so many Chinese there sooner or later that will boil over. Stay in your own country you polluted it and over crowded it then you want to spread out all over the place. This is what happens.

Thu, 05/22/2014 - 06:21 | 4784072 Smegley Wanxalot
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I suppose somebody's God would be proud of this.  Somefuckedupbody's.

Thu, 05/22/2014 - 06:43 | 4784082 Mi Naem
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Obviously, you do not know Him.  Perhaps some day you will. 

Until then, you've picked the perfect moniker for yourself.

Thu, 05/22/2014 - 06:46 | 4784084 Mi Naem
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"car he saw speed through was painted  with “Uighur language” slogans and had triangular flags stuck  to it"

Sounds like the definition of false flag, to me. 

Thu, 05/22/2014 - 07:04 | 4784111 Pressfiretostart
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Thu, 05/22/2014 - 07:41 | 4784169 Milton Freewater
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Did a bunch bankers die?  Then the people did it.  Did a bunch of people die? Then the bankers did it!


Thu, 05/22/2014 - 08:02 | 4784198 Son of Captain Nemo
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And China was doing so well in "business circles"  in places like Djbouti and Nigeria?...

Just another day in the neighborhood for CIA/MI6 and Mossad!

Thu, 05/22/2014 - 08:50 | 4784258 Son of Captain Nemo
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Sure is good thing to know that our men and women in "intelligence" and the armed forces are continuing to disobey lawful orders from the legislative branch of government that may compromise their "paychecks" and "bonuses" even if they are the ones that pay their salaries!

Also reassuring that we're practicing for just such emergencies in our own backyard that we are witnessing first hand in places like China and Ukraine?

What a fine well tuned law abiding machine the American bureaucratic system is in action!

Thu, 05/22/2014 - 09:04 | 4784379 insanelysane
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Could have just been GM suvs with steering problems and fuel tank issues.

Thu, 05/22/2014 - 11:37 | 4784911 johngerard
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It makes me laugh the way people call the US government morons for doing this or that, that they couldn't organise a blow-job in a whore house, yet simultaneously you ascribe to those very same retards the most sophisticated, subtle, international conspiracies imaginable, with them controlling every aspect of what actors in every other country do on a permanent basis.

According to commenters, the US government is responsible for everything that happens in the world today. Everything. Nobody else has any thoughts or ideas of their own, and can only react to what Americans say or do. That's the message from the commenters on here. Step back a second and think about how ridiculous that appears.

And so to the "CIA false flag attack in China". Ever considered, for just one, solitary fucking second, that's all I'm asking here - that the muslims who carried it out may - just may - have their own thoughts or ideas as to why they carried it out?




Thu, 05/22/2014 - 12:21 | 4785100 napper
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To answer your last question: It's possible.

It's "what's more likely" that's being discussed here.

More importantly, you need to remember that the various opinions / comments you read come from different people. You cannot attribute these various different comments to a single, abstract poster or group of posters who represents everybody or some like-minded group of "conspiracy theorists" who present their comments as simultaneously true.

You also need to remember that even by unclassified official records, the US has engaged in large scale false flag operations before, e.g. the Gulf of Tonkin "incident" that ultimately led to the Vietnam War, costing millions of Vietnamese lives and tens of thousands of American lives, plus over a Trillion dollar expense to the taxpayers, while enriching the weapons suppliers in the military industrial complex.

Is the  US government competent in running the country? You should be able to answer that easily: NO, based on the rapidly declining living standards ALONE (setting aside the constellation of more serious problems).

Is the US government still engaging in reckless, wasteful military spending and illegal wars abroad? Yes.

Did the US accuse Iraq of developing and amassing WMDs? Yes. Was it true? NO.

Is the US govt trying to contain Russia, China, Iran, Venezuela, etc? Yes. Is there any legitimate reason for doing it? No. Is it succeeding? No.



Different people within the US government are running different things, with different results.

Thu, 05/22/2014 - 17:19 | 4786405 johngerard
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"It's possible."

How generous of you. I'm sure muslims will be thrilled that you think "it's possible" that they have their own ideas in their own brains (imagine that?) about social, economic and political governance, and how they see the world, that - shock, horror - have nothing to do with the non-muslims' way of doing things.



Thu, 05/22/2014 - 23:29 | 4787372 napper
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That's not the question I was answering. My answer was specifically for whether it's possible that the terrorist attack in China was committed by muslims because of their own beliefs or ideas, as opposed to under the direction of CIA.

You are not reading carefully and are shifting questions and focus.

Fri, 05/23/2014 - 05:12 | 4787677 johngerard
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No, that's not right, Napper. My last question, clearly, was:

"Ever considered, for just one, solitary fucking second, that's all I'm asking here - that the muslims who carried it out may - just may - have their own thoughts or ideas as to why they carried it out?"

You responded:

"to answer your last question: it's possible"

Very clear. You're conceding it's "possible" that muslims could act outside of direction from the CIA, and instead according to their religious teachings and texts.

Let me ask you - do you think the muslims who ran down an off duty British soldier in a busy London street, then proceeded to all but behead him, gutting him - all in broad daylight in the afternoon in front of hundreds of witnesses; actively sought out video cameras to explain explicitly that islamic teachings and texts commanded them to do it, and cited verses from the Koran to justify what they had just done; waited around specifically for armed police to arrive, then attacked the police so they would kill them and they would therefore die as martyrs - were acting under the control of the CIA, and not doing it for their own reasons? Is that "possible"?

I'm just wondering...was that a false flag attack as well?

Thu, 05/22/2014 - 13:07 | 4785295 Mi Naem
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While I was among those saying false flag, I did not ascribe that to the CIA, or USGov generally. 

Looks like a ChiCom false flag to me.  Use your own forces from out of the area (no local loyalties) to credibly blame your adversary for a despicable crime against the public in an already destabilized area so that public will be more likely to support your aggressive repression of the adversary.  This is very old anti-insurgency tactics, and doesn't require a lot of administrative skill. 

(did not red arrow you for your skepticism.)

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