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Facebook Launches NSA-Style Auto-Eavesdropping Feature

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"I hope there are people who love the feature and post more," says Facebook's product manager excitedly about the new feature they just added. We suspect people will not... As The WSJ reports, starting Wednesday, the app has the ability to recognize music and television shows playing in the vicinity of users. Read that again... 'in the vicinity of users'. In other words, Facebook is unveiling its own NSA-style eavesdropping feature (on you and all your friends). Don't worry though... even if users decide not to share what they’re hearing or watching, Facebook will hold onto the data in anonymous form, keeping tabs on how many users watched particular shows. Sound familiar?

 

We're listening...

 

As WSJ reports,

Facebook’s mobile app just grew a keen sense of hearing. Starting Wednesday, the app has the ability to recognize music and television shows playing in the vicinity of users.

 

The feature is designed to make it easier for users to share. When users begin to write a post, the Facebook app will offer to include information about music or shows playing in the background.

 

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The audio-recognition feature works similar to the app Shazam, which also can identify music and television programming using the built-in microphones in mobile phones.

 

...Facebook says the app can recognize a live show within 15 seconds.

 

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If enough users opt in, the new Feature could give Facebook enough data to start compiling television ratings. Even if users decide not to share what they’re hearing or watching, Facebook will hold onto the data in anonymous form, keeping tabs on how many users watched particular shows.

 

...By tapping on the show or song, users can post it to their news feeds and let other users know what Facebook has already figured out – what they’re seeing and hearing.

We are sure this will not be abused or hacked by the NSA... and we are sure there will be plenty of small digital print that users will understand... One wonders though, is there any way for non-Facebook users to know that they are being eavesdropped upon?

 

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Wed, 05/21/2014 - 20:20 | 4783242 g'kar
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People still use that barbarous relic?

Wed, 05/21/2014 - 20:28 | 4783258 Harbanger
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Who needs the NSA when every self centered douchebag on the planet tells you about and posts pictures of their entire meaningless life on facefuck.

Wed, 05/21/2014 - 20:31 | 4783267 john39
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soon the government corporate fascist merger will come fully into the light...

Wed, 05/21/2014 - 20:51 | 4783309 Looney
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There's a simple solution - don't use Facebook... and in other news... The first Yuan-Ruble transaction!

VTB (a major Russian bank) has completed the first non-dollar transaction between Russia and China in the amount of 20 million yuan (more than 110 million rubles).

My Putonghua (the official version of Mandarin) is a bit rusty, but the article says that the purpose of the transaction was making sure that either Ruble-denominated or Yuan-denominated transactions go through without a glitch.

Next week, a batch of Brazil’s Real-denominated transactions is scheduled for testing, and by the end of the first week of June, 2014, India’s and South Africa’s currencies will be test-run.

Looney

Wed, 05/21/2014 - 20:52 | 4783321 NoDebt
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Wait until Zuck lobbies Congress so it's illegal NOT to be on Facebook.  '1984' vid screens in every house.  We're almost there.

Wed, 05/21/2014 - 20:58 | 4783339 Looney
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We, as parents, should start scaring our chillen with Zuck-monster. ;-)

Looney

Wed, 05/21/2014 - 21:18 | 4783390 wee-weed up
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Yet FaceFuck stock was up big-time today.

God help us - the mind-numb sheeple are in control!

Wed, 05/21/2014 - 22:30 | 4783584 ebworthen
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Because they can sell their spy data to the highest bidder.

Most people under 35, and a number over, bleat quite a bit.  Nice wool though, Farcebook busy shearing.

Wed, 05/21/2014 - 23:16 | 4783702 Manthong
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Gee, I might be a bit worried now.

Are the Wicken incantations that I am compelled by the Matriarch to have playing in the sanctuary next to my computer desk of any concern to anyone?

Thu, 05/22/2014 - 00:24 | 4783830 Siniverisyys
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I believe this technology works by sending a highly filtered spectrographic hash to a server, which is in turn queries their database. It wouldn't be feasible for the server to accept petabytes of raw audio to process. I can't see audio being transmitted to their servers. It's impossible to retreive speech or identify sounds from a "spectrographic hash." If the hash doesn't resolve in their database, there is no means to determine what the sound is.

The potential problems are:

1. You take issue with Facebook being able to identify music or television shows you are enjoying. (This doesn't bother me one bit.)

2. They add identifying sounds to your environment. Like "audial fingerprints."

3. The Facebook app is exploited to send raw audio data to an attacker.

 

 

Thu, 05/22/2014 - 03:19 | 4783995 Confused
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Ok. So here is a question (please forgive if it has already been asked):

 

How can it determine the songs/TV shows around you, but NOT conversations? This sounds rather odd. It can filter out this information from background noise? Why would I presume that it is NOT recording conversations? 

 

Not disagreeing with what you said. And doesn't XBOX Kinect already do this? 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7s8UdUAEJK8

 

It would appear that well meaning, or interested computer guys/gals create something and it gets co-opted. Big companies just need to provide the sandbox for these folks to play in. Then they get to reap the benefits big time. 

Thu, 05/22/2014 - 08:10 | 4784218 Think for yourself
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I still use FB because I stupidly tagged myself early on either way. The NSA and similar agencies don't need to read my latest posts on my profile to know that I'm against the control system... that price has been paid upfront when I started to realize what was going on, polarized into the expected reactionary stance and painted it all over the web.

So I might as well use FB to keep spreading timely and insightful info... helping to open even only one brother/sister's eyes is worth it ten times over.

 

Thu, 05/22/2014 - 18:12 | 4785663 Siniverisyys
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The audio isn't analyzed per se. The audio is processed into datagrams that contain no useful information other than to be used as keys in a database transaction.

A hash is one way.

It would be similar to how many websites "hash" your password. If your favourite website is compromised, it's likely that the passwords are hashed and cannot be "reversed" into your real password.

These "spectrographic hashes" cannot be reversed back into real audio. It's a representation of the audio that's being sent to Facebook's server, not the audio itself. MAYBE some mathematical genius out there could glean some characteristics of the audio based on the hash (i.e. amplitude, frequency response, noise, etc.), but never the audio itself.

If the hashes do not exist in their database, they have absolutely no way of knowing what the sound is.

That said, there are still probably ways of exploiting the Facebook's system. Even then, it's wouldn't be more effective than attacking Android or iOS itself. I'd be a lot more concerned about my phone in general than the Facebook app in particular.

Fri, 05/23/2014 - 17:25 | 4789810 trx
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Funny how many dat files you'll find on your computer while searching...even thou you havend played a single audio file in days, and the systems sounds are disabled.

And the brilliance of it all is that a dat file (usually assosiated with auidio) doesen't neccecarely have to contain any type of sound/noise - these file may very well hold something completely different - only readable to the operators who collect them.

Come to think of it.....all kinds of noise can (in theory) be analyzed, and all kinds of important information extracted from this.  

Thu, 05/22/2014 - 02:27 | 4783960 AmCockerSpaniel
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Does the NSA spy on the government and their families too? Who all gets to look at all that

data? Can those with access sell mined info to others, so they can front run on Wall Street?

Just what does "Trust Me" mean on Wall Street?

Thu, 05/22/2014 - 03:22 | 4783998 Confused
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Who gets to look at all that data? Its an interesting question. 

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/O%27Brien_(Nineteen_Eighty-Four)

Wed, 05/21/2014 - 20:33 | 4783272 Grande Tetons
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Same as LinkedIn. The Tylers have spotted a lot of shit just because of Ahole bankers' Linkedin profiles. 

Wed, 05/21/2014 - 20:54 | 4783329 HelluvaEngineer
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According to Facebook I don't exist.  Honestly, I did "delete" my profile after pasting links to numerous news topics with no response.  Sheeple will be sheeple.

Wed, 05/21/2014 - 20:58 | 4783341 Berspankme
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Please tell me again why anybody would sign up for this facefuck? And feed that cocksucking troll fucknuts Zuckerberg? Fuck you Facebook

Wed, 05/21/2014 - 21:04 | 4783362 Real Estate Geek
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To get laid more.

Wed, 05/21/2014 - 22:33 | 4783595 IndicaTive
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I know a girl who'll think this is a great feature. She was a great fuck.

Wed, 05/21/2014 - 20:23 | 4783243 Cognitive Dissonance
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Eavesdropping on background music and TV will soon evolve into eavesdropping on background conversations.

It is inevitable.

Wed, 05/21/2014 - 20:31 | 4783266 Grande Tetons
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Cog, 

This is truely scary shit, eh? I am no techie...and I am just working on confirmend suspicions here.  

Wed, 05/21/2014 - 20:53 | 4783324 Cognitive Dissonance
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The line was crossed a few years back when speech recognition software out of the consumer purchased software box evolved to the point where it would recognize almost 99% of speech perfectly with no 'training'.

Siri on the iPhone is another perfect example.

Wed, 05/21/2014 - 20:58 | 4783336 Grande Tetons
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I am going back to two tin cans and long fucking string. 

Thanks for the info, Cog. 

Wed, 05/21/2014 - 21:41 | 4783455 Cognitive Dissonance
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Too late.


NSA and kids

Wed, 05/21/2014 - 21:01 | 4783351 WillyGroper
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I couldn't get Siri to dial a number the other day & used a few expletives & called her a "Fucking Moron". 

Her reply was... I kid you not

"I don't know you, I don't know anything about you". ROFL

I pretty much keep the thing in airplane mode & only use when necessary anymore. 

Nothing but a voluntary ankle bracelet. 

Wed, 05/21/2014 - 21:58 | 4783369 HelluvaEngineer
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I used to work in keyword search.  And it wasn't speach to text.  It was phonetic.  13 years ago.  You would be terrified.

Wed, 05/21/2014 - 20:32 | 4783271 espirit
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My understanding of this is that it is an open microphone.

Recording All.

Enough said?  Use at your own risk.

Wed, 05/21/2014 - 20:54 | 4783327 Cognitive Dissonance
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One should run porn movies in the background just to screw with Facebook and Nielson.  :)

Wed, 05/21/2014 - 21:02 | 4783346 espirit
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Got co-conspirators linked via GPS, vocal diatribes seal the case.

What next? An auto-execution meme?

Edit: I forgot we've got to be "chipped" first.

Thu, 05/22/2014 - 00:11 | 4783812 weburke
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"whats next" is already here, and I am still amazed at the total quiet about it. so, I will not be the first. or the second. 

Wed, 05/21/2014 - 21:00 | 4783349 Berspankme
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usually do anyways but that's another story

Wed, 05/21/2014 - 21:11 | 4783379 WillyGroper
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Perhaps Nixon in an endless loop on "Bohemien Grove being The Biggest Bunch of Goddamn Faggots". 

Or, O"Bunga stating "I'll Have More Leeway After The Election".

How about Pelosi, "We Have To Pass It To See What's In It". 

Even better, The Franklin Scandal.

The fodder is infinite.

Thu, 05/22/2014 - 08:33 | 4784285 detached.amusement
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+100

Wed, 05/21/2014 - 22:32 | 4783575 cowdiddly
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Well I wonder what I would get by playing my old Led Zepplin album backwards while watching Duck Dynasty.

Fuck, Zuck what a piece of work.

Wed, 05/21/2014 - 20:36 | 4783281 williambanzai7
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I saw what you were thinking.

Wed, 05/21/2014 - 20:39 | 4783286 nmewn
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Stop it! ;-)

Wed, 05/21/2014 - 20:47 | 4783308 Mr. Magoo
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AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I need more duct tape

 

Wed, 05/21/2014 - 20:41 | 4783293 espirit
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Before I talk to you, all phones must be placed in the Faraday Cage.

Wed, 05/21/2014 - 20:56 | 4783331 Cognitive Dissonance
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How about if I put myself in the cage and leave all electronic devices outside. Hopefully it will stop the alien mind probes as well.

<Tinfoil bitches.>

Wed, 05/21/2014 - 21:05 | 4783367 espirit
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Long [tinfoil].

Wed, 05/21/2014 - 20:46 | 4783305 Harbanger
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Eavesdropping which is a result of technology is a double edged sword.  I love double edged swords.

Wed, 05/21/2014 - 20:58 | 4783337 nmewn
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Yes it is and so do I.

Its not what they think they know, its what you allow them to think they know...but they really don't.

A lot like cell phone tracking or credit cards or whatever, its a wonderful thing (they think). But at the end of the day, when the phone or card winds up in Tampa and I'm in NYC, what have they tracked? ;-)

Wed, 05/21/2014 - 21:33 | 4783428 Harbanger
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:) They're callous and believe they're invincible so they don't see the noose they made for themselves.  If they're fortunate, they will get a trial before they're hung.

Wed, 05/21/2014 - 21:46 | 4783468 kchrisc
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Here's one for you. Several years ago I accidently saved my Google/YouTube credentials in Firefox on a PC I service. The office pukes using that computer were young and mostly Latino--Mexican, PR, etc and ghetto. Now they watch YouTube ALL day and that history becomes associated with my account.

When I realized the mistake I also realized the benefit, so I started doing it routinely to all of the computers that I am responsible for.

I have office pukes that are all shades of Latino, gay, old, young, white trash, ghetto, doctors...

Sometimes I go thru my YouTube history and just laugh. Next to a Sandy Hoax video is a Gangnam Style video, then a video on Boston Boom, then a gangsta rap video. It's hilarious.

And can you imagine the search history they have associated with me?! LOL

Wed, 05/21/2014 - 22:28 | 4783578 miro1a
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My kids share the computer/youtube so they'll determine I'm an zerohedge reading anarchist with an affinity for my little pony and funny cats

Thu, 05/22/2014 - 00:02 | 4783795 NickVegas
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Sir, my hats off to you. You have opened my mind, and for that I am grateful. You are right, everyone should allow their accounts to be open sourced to everyone. It breaks the system fundamentally. You are the founder a new brand tactic in the information wars. You should name it, give it a name, and it will live.

Thu, 05/22/2014 - 00:17 | 4783822 kchrisc
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I don't know about other accounts, but this works for me because I have no credit cards or other sensitive stuff associated with it.

But I can assure you, the DC US' stasi are going to be confused when they investigate my YouTube and search history--Rothbard, Miley Cyrus, Liberty, Jay-Z...

Gangnam style!!!

Thu, 05/22/2014 - 06:28 | 4784066 Mesquite
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The mobile app for all this:

DCENTRAL1  

(free)

 

Wed, 05/21/2014 - 20:23 | 4783245 Grande Tetons
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Close all Facebook accounts. 

Wed, 05/21/2014 - 20:53 | 4783325 CPL
Wed, 05/21/2014 - 21:33 | 4783433 kchrisc
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I am sure that M$ will just "update" your computer and "fix" that for you; And of course won't tell you either.

Thu, 05/22/2014 - 00:02 | 4783797 NickVegas
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No, open all facebook accounts, and give away the credentials.

Wed, 05/21/2014 - 20:27 | 4783250 JustObserving
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Soon FB will be using the webcam to take photos of your wife/girlfriend so they can pitch the right size lingerie.  Naked photos would be best for that.  

And if they catch you in a sex act, FB will suggest sexual aids and porn that best suits your proclivities.

Zuckerberg is just being helpful.

Wed, 05/21/2014 - 20:57 | 4783333 Cognitive Dissonance
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Privacy is soooo yesterday.

Wed, 05/21/2014 - 21:12 | 4783381 JustObserving
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Snowden: Children born today will not know concept of privacy

http://www.cnet.com/news/snowdens-christmas-message-privacy-counts/

Wed, 05/21/2014 - 21:46 | 4783475 Cognitive Dissonance
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If you want to change a paradigm then start with the children. We stupid idiots are trying to change the minds of other adults while the machine has our children in their state run schools.

Truly an epic fail on our part.

Thu, 05/22/2014 - 00:55 | 4783872 UselessEater
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Sure, but supporting the pervasive connectivity meme, kids are fed for example that "wearable tech" is cool using fashion trends of endless variety:

"nail art could be an important new medium for wearable technology"

https://www.vocativ.com/tech/machines/wearable-tech-nail-art-now-thing/

Even a responsible parent faces an uphill battle! These creeping innovations are going to make it even tougher for kids in alternative schools/being home-schooled/or otherwise monitored by diligent parents, to not succum to the paradigm.

Children of loving parents pre-occupied with dual incomes and fake red/blue politics and mainstream media pet issues are still at an incredible disadvantage.

As you say, a truly epic fail.

 

Fri, 05/23/2014 - 10:26 | 4788392 donmindme
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I think it's already doing it. I snore. And somehow I'm getting all these CPAP machine advertisements when I surf the net. I was like W T F. 

So the damn mic is probably on at night, and they have a database of people who snores. 

Wed, 05/21/2014 - 20:24 | 4783251 Portuguese Revo...
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Sons of bitches...

And no one calll out that Zuckerberg douche for the CIA BITCH that he is???

America, doomed and dooming the rest of us.

Wed, 05/21/2014 - 20:40 | 4783289 john39
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i find it highly unlikely that zuckertool is anything more than a face and a coverstory for CIA operation aka facebook.

Wed, 05/21/2014 - 20:48 | 4783310 hidingfromhelis
Wed, 05/21/2014 - 20:56 | 4783302 JuliaS
Wed, 05/21/2014 - 20:29 | 4783263 WMM II
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"We are sure this will not be abused or hacked by the NSA..."

 

"will not"= "already has been"

 

 

:)

Wed, 05/21/2014 - 20:39 | 4783285 nmewn
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Un-like, probably not even an option.

So, I guess now (if I even had a Farcebook account) I would need to muffle the mic.

Excellent!

Wed, 05/21/2014 - 20:59 | 4783342 Cognitive Dissonance
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Sit on the microphone and blow a few toots for FB.

Wed, 05/21/2014 - 21:02 | 4783357 nmewn
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Its a good point, I've always considered that exit only...lol.

Wed, 05/21/2014 - 21:09 | 4783376 dexter_morgan
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unlike our prez and reggie

Wed, 05/21/2014 - 21:44 | 4783463 nmewn
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Pretty sure that would considered homophobic AND razzzist on most college campuses these days.

But in ZH College the candor is refreshingly open (unlike "open socities" these days) made in good humor, so nice job "brownie" ;-)

Wed, 05/21/2014 - 22:45 | 4783637 ceilidh_trail
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CD- I'm waiting for the aromasensor version.

Wed, 05/21/2014 - 21:09 | 4783377 TheFourthStooge-ing
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Idea for a new app: Sounds of the Toilet.

When the phone is not actually engaged in a voice call, the microphone is muted and an audio loop is fed to the microphone circuit instead, played to anyone/anything which might be listening in.

The audio loop would consist of a variety of sounds such as "grogan dropping into water", "explosive diarrheal burst", "echoing flatulence montage", and "back teeth floating, 90-second used beer stream".

Wed, 05/21/2014 - 20:40 | 4783287 dumbStruck
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Facebook hand sign should be the sign of satan

Wed, 05/21/2014 - 20:41 | 4783295 BrosephStiglitz
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Well.  That's the last straw.  Time to delete my facebook account.

Wed, 05/21/2014 - 20:49 | 4783313 espirit
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Too little, too late.

Wed, 05/21/2014 - 21:00 | 4783345 Cognitive Dissonance
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You do not own your FB account. Thus you cannot delete what you do not own.

<All your FB are belong to us.>

Wed, 05/21/2014 - 21:08 | 4783372 dexter_morgan
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Can't do it. Can 'disable' it, but it's like a terrible fucking gubmit program - it never goes away.

Wed, 05/21/2014 - 21:29 | 4783419 pods
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Herpes.

Wed, 05/21/2014 - 22:07 | 4783503 Cognitive Dissonance
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Mrs. Cog and I have tried to explain to our adult and near adult children that FB will follow them around for the rest of their lives. And when they least expect it and can ill afford it FB will pop out and ruin their lives.

Our advice falls of deaf ears.

<Daughter- Hi, I would like to apply for a job?

Corporation - Well, I see you had a FB account 10 years ago. I'm not liking what I'm seeing. Is that a half naked selfie? Does your mother know you took that? Not very responsible of you.>

Wed, 05/21/2014 - 23:38 | 4783750 BlindMonkey
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If she is cute that will likely be the end of the interview right there. "YOU'RE HIRED!!"

You never know which way these things turn out.

Thu, 05/22/2014 - 00:44 | 4783855 August
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>>>You never know which way these things turn out.

Exactly. 

No one who lived through the 60's and didn't even try a little weed should never be on the US Supreme Court.

Ditto a little kinky sex.  Well, at least theoretically....

 

Thu, 05/22/2014 - 00:24 | 4783831 Arkadaba
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Actually not having a facebook account makes you more suspect:

http://www.forbes.com/sites/kashmirhill/2012/08/06/beware-tech-abandoner...

Thu, 05/22/2014 - 01:15 | 4783889 UselessEater
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thanks, a creepy PR article re-writing the human history of intimate relationships using the terror meme.

I don't have a mobile phone anymore either - that seriously shocks people, its a sure way to get a conversation going (sigh).

It seems to be harder and harder not to run a-foul of the new socially acceptable standards, just living normally is becoming wrong for example, I don't want a smart meter, I drive a car not bicycle, I tend to use cash....this list could go on ;)


Thu, 05/22/2014 - 01:29 | 4783905 Titus
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Not a PR article, it's an accurate reflection, as much as I HATE IT. I've had a number of people not do business with me because I wasn't on idiotbook. They use it like ID now. Cocksucking idiots. 

Thu, 05/22/2014 - 01:34 | 4783912 UselessEater
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My previus employer used FB for spying on and sacking people.

By PR I meant re-framing us using propoganda, as "terrorists" even in the ptivate affairs of our bedrooms.

I just read the article and thought WTF this terror/suspicion meme gets bigger every day!!

Thu, 05/22/2014 - 04:16 | 4784019 Perfecthedge
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We should join forces UselessEater!

I still keep a mobile phone, but it is off all the time.  I only switch it on to make a call and only if I am away from my home.  My closest friends and wife know that I am not reachable.  They leave a message and I can retrieve it later on. 

Because of a certain "Life event" I only use cash.  Never cards, bank accounts, etc.  Wire transfers? There is a trick for that.

It goes on and on.  I am not even paranoid.  But Life took a whole new Level of freedom.

I do have a FB account with fake data, a throw away mobile phone associated with it and a fake email address.  Facebook is good to leave a false trail.  Actually it is PERFECT to create other persona.  I love this stuff!

Thu, 05/22/2014 - 18:54 | 4786774 MeelionDollerBogus
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Well that's too damned bad. I can't be obligated to have a facebook account & I won't have one.

Thu, 05/22/2014 - 07:25 | 4784080 Mesquite
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fb is NOT the only one...

Get DCENTRAL1

for mobile...

John McAfee is on top of this...

Wed, 05/21/2014 - 20:43 | 4783298 Duc888
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Gonna be some fun times when the big AI gets sentient "feelings".

 

Wed, 05/21/2014 - 21:46 | 4783470 Yes_Questions
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ohh mercy

 

in a not so sub-routine coming soon, AI judges its progenitor.

 

fun times fir shir!

Thu, 05/22/2014 - 18:52 | 4786769 MeelionDollerBogus
Thu, 05/22/2014 - 18:50 | 4786764 MeelionDollerBogus
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Especially when its emotional guidance comes from Blackwater / Xe.

Wed, 05/21/2014 - 20:49 | 4783312 Platinum
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Ripe for exploitation. I would have german porn playing in the background at all times.

 

Status Update: Das Butt!

Wed, 05/21/2014 - 20:50 | 4783315 espirit
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Das Boot?

Wed, 05/21/2014 - 22:21 | 4783564 falconflight
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Das Boot imma Die Butt?

Wed, 05/21/2014 - 22:20 | 4783562 falconflight
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LOL

Thu, 05/22/2014 - 18:47 | 4786758 MeelionDollerBogus
Wed, 05/21/2014 - 22:16 | 4783332 WinstonsPetRat
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How it works:

When this icon is moving we're trying to identify what you're thinking or planning. Tap the icon to do sweet fuck all.

What we Identify:

We identify everyone. We can't identify background noise or conversation, unless you have a mic. Sounds are only used to find what personality traits you match and are imprinted on thousands of databases across the western world.

Your Privacy

We have control - Go back to sleep America (Nod to Bill). You choose whether to realise it or not.

Fixed it.

If someone could meme that shit; that would be super.

Bob bless the internetz.

Wed, 05/21/2014 - 21:00 | 4783344 RaceToTheBottom
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This is a plan by FaceCrap to fight the NSA by obliterating them with worthless info of cats and dicks pretending they are important.

Wed, 05/21/2014 - 21:04 | 4783366 nmewn
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Facebook, Google, Verizon, Time Warner etc. are the NSA.

You're in the matrix right now, cool ain't it? ;-)

Wed, 05/21/2014 - 21:11 | 4783380 espirit
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Moar like Pre-Crime detention.

Wed, 05/21/2014 - 21:32 | 4783422 nmewn
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Yes.

I've spent a lot of time thinking about what constitutes a crime lately. The lawgivers would like us to think what they declare a crime, is in fact a crime.

History has shown this to not always be true.

People in power have a way of declaring things lawful or unlawful just because they have power & self interest for just an instant of time, for the moment (historically speaking). So they declare things lawful, or not, in that space of time, of presence, totally unconcerned as to whether later that law will be overturned by another law or by brute force for its unlawfulness.

Many lawgivers have lost their heads over such egotistic notions, it seems when they get power they lose all common sense ;-)

Wed, 05/21/2014 - 21:33 | 4783432 The_Prisoner
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Bastiat made that point in The Law. Law should be subortinate to Justice, not the other way around.

Wed, 05/21/2014 - 21:51 | 4783485 nmewn
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Exactly right.

Tyranny results from law dominating justice. I guess no one got that point when I said Hitler, Mao, Pol Pot, the assorted Khans etc. had their laws too.

Those laws didn't make justice, until their heads were on sticks. Seems they never learn and the addle brained minions who slavishly follow them too.

Thu, 05/22/2014 - 18:43 | 4786737 MeelionDollerBogus
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The markets are foretold by Dr. Copper.
The monarchies' future is foretold by Dr. Guillotine

Thu, 05/22/2014 - 18:42 | 4786734 MeelionDollerBogus
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Hmmm... I ask for juicy steak and instead the Matrix tells me I get kibbles'n'bits.
I was almost sold on it after the movie but I am very disappointed in the steak selection.

Thu, 05/22/2014 - 18:27 | 4786678 MeelionDollerBogus
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And yet the humbly amazing Narwhal is again ignored!

Wed, 05/21/2014 - 21:06 | 4783368 dexter_morgan
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My only question is what took them so fucking long. Bad tech hiring practices, bias against Russian and Asian programmers?

Wed, 05/21/2014 - 21:09 | 4783373 kchrisc
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I must say it: If you use FaCIAbook, you're a tool.

If I did use it I would always have the Piña Colada Song playing in the background. They won't know what to think of me.

 

"If you like Pina Coladas, and getting caught in the rain
If you're not into yoga, if you have half-a-brain
If you like making love at midnight, in the dunes of the cape
I'm the love that you've looked for, write to me, and escape..."

Wed, 05/21/2014 - 21:36 | 4783438 Yes_Questions
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you're too kind..

 

here's the Keep Away Song (God Smack)

 

Sickness spilling through your eyes
Craving everything
That you thought was alive, yeah
Stab me yeah, in my heart again, ah yeah
Drag me through your wasted life
Are you forever dead?

Do like I told you
Stay away from me
Never misunderstand me
Keep away from me




Thu, 05/22/2014 - 18:24 | 4786666 MeelionDollerBogus
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like the Family Guy Theme Music episode. Or was that Simpsons? Or did they both do that? I wonder if I should go with "day-o" or the coconut song.

Wed, 05/21/2014 - 21:17 | 4783378 The_Prisoner
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Wireshark is your friend if you wanna find out if your phone is still spying on you after you disable or opt-out of some features.

Wed, 05/21/2014 - 23:18 | 4783713 Crawdaddy
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Here is the program John McAfee has been working on:

http://www.futuretensecentral.com/

"With one touch, DCentral1 will scan the apps on your phone for permission allowances that may make your information vulnerable."

 

Wed, 05/21/2014 - 23:48 | 4783775 Crawdaddy
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My son didn't believe me when I told him I could see every website he visited so I fired up Wireshark and showed him his traffic. <<<face turned pale>>>

Then I showed him how google/mozilla/MSFT spies on your geo location by scanning available wifi networks and comparing them to MAC addresses they scooped up with their street view camera cars. Using that data they can find your location within a 100 meters or less. Cross reference with other data and they can tell exactly who it is inside your house using that keyboard.

https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/geolocation/

By default, Firefox uses Google Location Services to determine your location by sending:

  • your computer’s IP address,
  • information about the nearby wireless access points, and
  • a random client identifier, which is assigned by Google, that expires every 2 weeks. (Haha just kidding, we keep it forever)

To combat, read this:

https://support.mozilla.org/ru/questions/945748

Side note - Mozilla used the gaydar issue to throw out the CEO guy standing in they way of DRM so it won't be long until mozilla is just a googlensa drone data collection bot.

http://voxday.blogspot.com/2014/05/why-brendan-eich-had-to-go.html

Thu, 05/22/2014 - 00:29 | 4783784 The_Prisoner
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Good post. It is becoming increasingly problematic to find a good browser.

What do you think of Midori?

 

Thu, 05/22/2014 - 01:00 | 4783875 Crawdaddy
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I have yet to try Midori but it looks interesting. I've been using Pale Moon (which is still a mozilla variant based on firefox source) and so far I'm happy with it. Opera (also a mozila variant) is the other browser I find myself using more every day. Neither PM or Opera appear to store info without my knowledge or relay stuff back to the mothership the way Firefox, Safari and IE do. Or maybe they do and I just haven't figured it out yet.

As the fringe tech rises in adoption levels, like firefox, so will the efforts to coopt them into the googlensa,FBCIA, Apple, MSFT web.

Thu, 05/22/2014 - 01:14 | 4783888 The_Prisoner
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I am yet to try it on the PC. I use it on Raspberry Pi as it came bundled with Raspbian. Very light on the memory and PF and comes preloaded with No-script.

Going to give Pale Moon a go after I ditch Ubuntu for Bodhi.

 

Thu, 05/22/2014 - 08:23 | 4784256 Crawdaddy
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I like the way you think. Ditch any tech that collaborates with the beast.

Thu, 05/22/2014 - 08:34 | 4784287 The_Prisoner
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As much as I can. I find it is a good way to keep the tech skills up.

I haven't coded in ages though, it is a skill a sorely miss. The time investment required to get up to date is more than I can spare though.

Fri, 05/23/2014 - 08:10 | 4786650 MeelionDollerBogus
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Firefox is done for credibility (mozilla). Last good version was 25, 24 was more decent.
Soon may be time to move on to IceWeasel or at least hold onto those older versions. I won't use above v25. Period.

24 esr for linux (link)

24 ESR, all operating systems (link)

Wed, 05/21/2014 - 21:21 | 4783396 pragmatic hobo
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the fact that google is part of nsa was revealed during that spat with chinese government ... now there should be zero doubt facebook is nothing more than nsa operation funded by fed driven stock market ...

Wed, 05/21/2014 - 21:27 | 4783410 Kreditanstalt
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Seems that if one just doesn't use a "mobile" or cell phone, smartphone etc., one can avoid a lot of this stuff.

AND...you get rid of another monthly bill too!

Wed, 05/21/2014 - 23:14 | 4783701 TheMeatTrapper
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I honestly believe the only answer is to not use electricity. Seriously.

Wed, 05/21/2014 - 21:30 | 4783421 Yes_Questions
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is it too early to bring in the Mentats?

 

Dear,

 

facebook.

 

antics like this will only hasten the demise of your endeavor.

 

carry-on!

 

 

Signed,

Disgusted Nexus Six

Wed, 05/21/2014 - 21:36 | 4783440 Whatta
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what's a facebook? i get emails for a fuckbook, is that the same?

Thu, 05/22/2014 - 18:19 | 4786649 MeelionDollerBogus
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No, those are very distinct sites.

Wed, 05/21/2014 - 21:36 | 4783441 NoWayJose
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I wonder if a lot of these security breaches (like eBay) are simply due to hackers finding the NSA loopholes and back doors? Then we get updates that close the loopholes that the hackers found, while introducing new loopholes that only NSA knows about - at least until the hackers find those too and the process repeats.

Wed, 05/21/2014 - 21:49 | 4783484 NoWayJose
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You only have two choices - share your entire life with Facebook, Google, iTunes, Amazon, eBay, MasterCard, Visa, and the NSA -- or switch to an emergency use only basic phone, only visit known websites without any Google searches, close down Facebook, Twitter and any other social network sites, pay cash for most purchases, and make minimal use of email and telephones. In other words - become an electronic hermit. I used to have some hope that encryption would be secure, but it isn't. I thought of setting up a prepaid cell phone with gift card recharges, but as soon as anyone you are communicating with adds you to a contact list you are no longer anonymous. You can try to hide, but the game is rigged against you.

Wed, 05/21/2014 - 22:17 | 4783548 falconflight
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We use DuckGoGo for search engine

We use  basic cell phones

We Do Not use IE anymore...now using Opera, TOR, and/or FireFox.  

We are using cash more and more; and/or using checks more often as well.  Slowing down the machine so to speak.

We'll dump (tough one) satellite/cable when our contract expires.

Fuck FaceBook.  I use it only to rail at news articles.  My profile uses no factually accurate info and an avatar.  Just small acts of resistance, even if token.  Some are not token if millions did the same.

Thu, 05/22/2014 - 18:19 | 4786646 MeelionDollerBogus
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I do the path of the hermit.
The encryption is for sure 100% content secure with GPG but the problem is sheeple have zero interest in using it.
In the end people who I'd rather have private conversation with would rather see me in person & refuse to use encryption. It does no good if people refuse to use it.
You briefly allude to traffic analysis & that's important: unless every line you use is unknown to the corporations, NSA, CIA, etc., unless every path you walk is unseen, you're seen & it's only a matter of being noticed. Encryption doesn't hide locations.

Wed, 05/21/2014 - 22:14 | 4783540 hairball48
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Stupid fucking facefuck sheeple.

I never signed up for FaceBook and I never will. I like the idea of playing porn though to mess with them!!

YeeHaww!! Tellem Bonnie :)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e3kxQOGWJJU

 

Wed, 05/21/2014 - 22:40 | 4783620 robnume
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Facefucker users deserve whatever they get. I cannot believe that anyone would post such personal info on themselves. A fuckin' nation of narcissists, yeah?

Thu, 05/22/2014 - 07:09 | 4784120 Peterus
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Your intellect in this case has to extremely limited. Maybe in your case you want as much about your existance to be a secret - fair enough, live how you want to live. Yet many just don't give a shit about who knows their associations, employer, favorite past times etc. Some actually like to have it in the open. It really doesn't need that much imagination to see that some people will be different than you.

BTW Sure, there are many narcissists obsessed with showing off (just go to a concert, in place of enjoying the music many people keep recording it... who's watching that later? it's no longer live and at very low quality), but there are also many equally deranged and sick paranoid people. If you're dealing in illegal stuff, or enjoy hmm... unorthodox pleasures - than it makes sense to hide it. Though a regular Joe obsessed about hiding his address or list of friends, well he's no better than the narcissist.

Thu, 05/22/2014 - 09:13 | 4784405 disgruntled hou...
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Facebook is a waste of time.  It is conditioning for the Brave New World.  Real life and relationshps are better than electronic postings about nonsense.  Zuckerberg is laughing all the way to the bank.  You want to support someone who thinks you are an idiot for giving him all that information making him money. Go ahead- it is your choice but don't cry when the next shoe falls and we are in 1984.

Thu, 05/22/2014 - 09:13 | 4784406 disgruntled hou...
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Facebook is a waste of time.  It is conditioning for the Brave New World.  Real life and relationshps are better than electronic postings about nonsense.  Zuckerberg is laughing all the way to the bank.  You want to support someone who thinks you are an idiot for giving him all that information making him money. Go ahead- it is your choice but don't cry when the next shoe falls and we are in 1984.

Thu, 05/22/2014 - 15:48 | 4786056 MeelionDollerBogus
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But they do care & do not understand.
They want rights. They want expression. They want what's legal & fun now to remain legal and fun.
They want not to be arrested & executed at random by police.
Yet they will lose all of these things solely for participating in the mass-surveillance upon everyone, including themselves.
They are simply too stupid to understand they have real needs & are acting against their own self-interest.
What is illegal? When the cops show up & shoot your sleeping children apparently it's your children that are illegal because the cop's word is law upon all life & death without repeal.
If just one person on your friend-of-friends facebook lists says "hey, wanna get high?" you should expect cops to kick in YOUR door & use it as evidence to put survivors in prison after shooting up the place with a no-knock warrant & flash-bangs.

Wed, 05/21/2014 - 22:41 | 4783625 ebworthen
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My family and friends think I'm a conspiracy theory Luddite for not using Farcebook.

Oh well.

Thu, 05/22/2014 - 00:02 | 4783758 Manipuflation
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It took me weeks to scrub my facebook account but I think it is done.  I never posted much there anyway I would just read some of the shit that was said and came to this conclusion:  Most people on facebook are idiots.  They keep sending you friend requests.  Well, for fucks sakes, I didn't like you 20 years ago so why would I like you now?  Hello? 

I really don't need to see a picture of your cat shitting in the litter box INSIDE your house.  Basically what most idiots are posting are pictures of their pet(s) who is/are shitting and pissing the carpet and furniture up and are telling me that you keep a box of shit and piss in your house.  I couldn't take any of that and I don't care.  Who needs to know about your pets?  Should I take picture of one our guppys taking a shit in the aquarium and post that?  And heaven forbid that you suggest that someone wasting time and money on animals that are ruining shit is fucking is a full retard investment. 

The arguments never even get started because we are ZeroHedgers and we have been through the Fight Club process here.  It is like going through a wheatfield with a scythe when we have to deal with them.  You can mow them down with a single word.  Then you get family involved and they want to be "friends" on FaceTard.  Family does not mean a friends.  No one needs that shit either.  How many family fights have you heard about that started on FaceFuck because most people are really shitty at blogging?  And then that is our fault?  ZeroHedge and FaceFuck do not mesh because we call shit out and most people do not like that.

I originally got involved with FaceTracker because of the political shit I was involved in but it quickly became apparent that it was wasted time.  I started hearing about all sorts of shit that I did not care about and that was not germane to any sort of governance.  They found me and not me to them.  So for a while, I gave it a shot and occasionally some issues came up but mostly it was about what color their shit was that morning.  Useless information.

You are right on the mark as usual EB.  I don't post a lot of youtube links but Roger Waters said it best here a long time ago. 

Wed, 05/21/2014 - 23:46 | 4783771 BlindMonkey
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I use my Facebook fees to spread my conspiratorial Luddite thinking to as many as will listen. I posted the WSJ blog entry as well as the link to McAfee's new company.

Maybe it is silly but I try to educate as much as possible.

Thu, 05/22/2014 - 15:48 | 4786061 MeelionDollerBogus
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Keep trying. I did & eventually FB shut down my account's ability to post. Just for that one reason.
That was years ago & I never used it again since.

Thu, 05/22/2014 - 06:54 | 4784083 ThisIsBob
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"Just because you are paranoid, doesn't mean that machines aren't out to get you."  (Ned Ludd, 1812)

Thu, 05/22/2014 - 07:44 | 4784172 headhunt
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If it is true it is not paranoia.

Wed, 05/21/2014 - 22:44 | 4783635 BiPolarFrenchman
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App deleted.  

Thu, 05/22/2014 - 02:33 | 4783963 napper
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Good decision IMO. LOL

Wed, 05/21/2014 - 22:57 | 4783668 SweetDoug
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And when FaceBook shares that data with the corporations to figure out you haven't purchased that show and send around the police to arrest you for piracy?

 

Na-aa-aah! Thad'll never happen!

 

(crickets)

 

•?•
V-V

Thu, 05/22/2014 - 02:43 | 4783974 The_Prisoner
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Bingo! And then after you cannot pay the million dollar fine the judge will impose, Hollywood can just make your country's taxpayers foot the bill as per TPP's Investor's State Dispute Settlement by which foreign investors could take grievances against host governments to arbitrators, whose decisions are enforceable and not appealable.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Investor-state_dispute_settlement

 

Thu, 05/22/2014 - 06:59 | 4784106 Peterus
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It'd be a blunder to go for minor offenders like this. Same could already be used in a much easier way for busting people with marijuana. Just keep checking all FB messages for stoners meeting up, or people borrowing or selling that announce it clearly. Serious dealers will only talk in person, but kids will probably write it down on FB pretty frequently. "You wanna get high tonight?" "Yes" "Come at 8PM to this place ..." and cops go there too, sniff something suspicious and make a warantless search that just so happens to get drugs.

However, if it comes to this people will radically alter on-line behavior. They'll start employing countermeasures left and right. Than govt loses a lot of benefits of spying in the future. It'd make sense to bust revolutionaries or enemies of the state like this, when the stakes are high and number of individuals very small. But for drugs or piracy it's just a bad idea.

Thu, 05/22/2014 - 09:02 | 4784376 disgruntled hou...
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Yes- the government will get what it wants but why doesn't anyone see the need to punish the nine companies that partnered with the NSA?  Why do you continue to buy Apple products?  Not only do they help the government spy on you but they take jobs away by employing slave labor in China. Do you know it would cost just $6 more a unit to have phones built in U.S.  They don't because they sell millions of phones and that money can be offshored in a tax haven.  They pay no taxes after creative accounting and yet you all line up to help continue the scam.  You don't get it. Apple is the government. GE is the government.  Punish them and you punish the government.  We are not a democracy so stop focussing on the seated government focus on the oligarchs and their domains.  Stop supporting Apple, GE, Google,Yahoo.  You vote with your money not at the ballot box.

Thu, 05/22/2014 - 15:38 | 4786004 MeelionDollerBogus
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Sheeple have become too stupid to evolve countermeasures. They flat out don't care and are too infantile to form strategies anymore.
Murrika is over.  The taint is spreading to Canadian culture now too. We are distinct but we have plenty of sheeple.

Wed, 05/21/2014 - 22:58 | 4783669 palmereldritch
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"If enough users opt in,..."

And by that of course they probably mean if too few turn off the hidden automatic default 'on'

Do NOT follow this link or you will be banned from the site!