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Who Is The New Secret Buyer Of U.S. Debt?

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Submitted by Brandon Smith of Alt-Market blog,

On the surface, the economic atmosphere of the U.S. has appeared rather calm and uneventful. Stocks are up, employment isn’t great but jobs aren’t collapsing into the void (at least not openly), and the U.S. dollar seems to be going strong. Peel away the thin veneer, however, and a different financial horror show is revealed.

U.S. stocks have enjoyed unprecedented crash protection due to a steady infusion of fiat money from the Federal Reserve known as quantitative easing. With the advent of the “taper”, QE is now swiftly coming to a close (as is evident in the overall reduction in treasury market purchases), and is slated to end by this fall, if not sooner.

Employment has been boosted only in statistical presentation, and not in reality. The Labor Department’s creative accounting of job numbers omits numerous factors, the most important being the issue of long term unemployed. Millions of people who have been jobless for so long they no longer qualify for benefits are being removed from the rolls. This quiet catastrophe has the side bonus of making it appear as though unemployment is going down.

U.S. Treasury bonds, and by extension the dollar, have also stayed afloat due to the river of stimulus being introduced by the Federal Reserve. That same river, through QE, is now drying up.

In my article The Final Swindle Of Private American Wealth Has Begun, I outline the data which leads me to believe that the Fed taper is a deliberate action in preparation for an impending market collapse. The effectiveness of QE stimulus has a shelf-life, and that shelf life has come to an end. With debt monetization no longer a useful tool in propping up the ailing U.S. economy, central bankers are publicly stepping back. Why? If a collapse occurs while stimulus is in full swing, the Fed immediately takes full blame for the calamity, while being forced to admit that central banking as a concept serves absolutely no meaningful purpose.

My research over many years has led me to conclude that a collapse of the American system is not only expected by international financiers, but is in fact being engineered by them. The Fed is an entity created by globalists for globalists. These people have no loyalties to any one country or culture. Their only loyalties are to themselves and their private organizations.

While many people assume that the stimulus measures of the Fed are driven by a desire to save our economy and currency, I see instead a concerted program of destabilization which is meant to bring about the eventual demise of our nation’s fiscal infrastructure. What some might call “kicking the can down the road,” I call deliberately stretching the country thin over time, so that any indirect crisis can be used as a trigger event to bring the ceiling crashing down.

In the past several months, the Fed taper of QE and subsequently U.S. bond buying has coincided with steep declines in purchases by China, a dump of one-fifth of holdings by Russia, and an overall decline in new purchases of U.S. dollars for FOREX reserves.

With the Ukraine crisis now escalating to fever pitch, BRIC nations are openly discussing the probability of “de-dollarization” in international summits, and the ultimate dumping of the dollar as the world reserve currency.

The U.S. is in desperate need of a benefactor to purchase its ever rising debt and keep the system running. Strangely, a buyer with apparently bottomless pockets has arrived to pick up the slack that the Fed and the BRICS are leaving behind. But, who is this buyer?

At first glance, it appears to be the tiny nation of Belgium.

While foreign investment in the U.S. has sharply declined since March, Belgium has quickly become the third largest buyer of Treasury bonds, just behind China and Japan, purchasing more than $200 billion in securities in the past five months, adding to a total stash of around $340 billion. This development is rather bewildering, primarily because Belgium’s GDP as of 2012 was a miniscule $483 billion, meaning, Belgium has spent nearly the entirety of its yearly GDP on our debt.

Clearly, this is impossible, and someone, somewhere, is using Belgium as a proxy in order to prop up the U.S. But who?

Recently, a company based in Belgium called Euroclear has come forward claiming to be the culprit behind the massive purchases of American debt. Euroclear, though, is not a direct buyer. Instead, the bank is a facilitator, using what it calls a “collateral highway” to allow central banks and international banks to move vast amounts of securities around the world faster than ever before.

Euroclear claims to be an administrator for more than $24 trillion in worldwide assets and transactions, but these transactions are not initiated by the company itself. Euroclear is a middleman used by our secret buyer to quickly move U.S. Treasuries into various accounts without ever being identified. So the question remains, who is the true buyer?

My investigation into Euroclear found some interesting facts. Euroclear has financial relationships with more than 90 percent of the world’s central banks and was once partly owned and run by 120 of the largest financial institutions back when it was called the “Euroclear System”. The organization was consolidated and operated by none other than JP Morgan Bank in 1972. In 2000, Euroclear was officially incorporated and became its own entity. However, one must remember, once a JP Morgan bank, always a JP Morgan bank.

Another interesting fact – Euroclear also has a strong relationship with the Russian government and is a primary broker for Russian debt to foreign investors. This once again proves my ongoing point that Russia is tied to the global banking cabal as much as the United States. The East vs. West paradigm is a sham of the highest order.

Euroclear’s ties to the banking elite are obvious; however, we are still no closer to discovering the specific groups or institution responsible for buying up U.S. debt. I think that the use of Euroclear and Belgium may be a key in understanding this mystery.

Belgium is the political center of the EU, with more politicians, diplomats and lobbyists than Washington D.C. It is also, despite its size and economic weakness, a member of an exclusive economic club called the “Group Of Ten” (G10).

The G10 nations have all agreed to participate in a “General Arrangement to Borrow” (GAB) launched in 1962 by the International Monetary Fund (IMF). The GAB is designed as an ever cycling fund which members pay into. In times of emergency, members can ask the IMF’s permission for a release of funds. If the IMF agrees, it then injects capital through Treasury purchases and SDR allocations. Essentially, the IMF takes our money, then gives it back to us in times of desperation (with strings attached).  A similar program called 'New Arrangements To Borrow' (NAB) involves 38 member countries.  This fund was boosted to approximately 370 billion SDR (or $575 billion dollars U.S.) as the derivatives crisis struck markets in 2008-2009.  Without a full and independent audit of the IMF, however, it is impossible to know the exact funds it has at its disposal, or how many SDR's it has created.

It should be noted the Bank of International Settlements is also an overseer of the G10. If you want to learn more about the darker nature of globalist groups like the IMF and the BIS, read my articles, Russia Is Dominated By Global Banks, Too, and False East/West Paradigm Hides The Rise Of Global Currency.

The following article from Harpers titled Ruling The World Of Money,” was published in 1983 and boasts about the secrecy and “ingenuity” of the Bank Of International Settlements, an unaccountable body of financiers that dominates the very course of economic life around the world.

It is my belief that Belgium, as a member of the G10 and the GAB/NAB agreements, is being used as a proxy by the BIS and the IMF to purchase U.S. debt, but at a high price. I believe that the banking elite are hiding behind their middleman, Euroclear, because they do not want their purchases of Treasuries revealed too soon. I believe that the IMF in particular is accumulating U.S. debt to be used later as leverage to absorb the dollar and finalize the rise of their SDR currency basket as the world reserve standard.

Imagine what would happen if all foreign creditors abandoned U.S. debt purchases because the dollar was no longer seen as viable as a world reserve currency.  Imagine that the Fed's efforts to stimulate through fiat printing became useless in propping up Treasuries, serving only to devalue the domestic buying power of our currency.  Imagine that the IMF swoops in as the lender of last resort; the only entity willing to service our debt and keep the system running.  Imagine what kind of concessions America would have to make to a global loan shark like the IMF.

Keep in mind, the plan to replace the dollar is not mere "theory".  In fact, IMF head Christine Lagarde has openly called for a "global financial system" to take over in the place of the current dollar based system.

The Bretton Woods System, established in 1944, was used by the United Nations and participating governments to form international rules of economic conduct, including fixed rates for currencies and establishing the dollar as the monetary backbone. The IMF was created during this shift towards globalization as the BIS slithered into the background after its business dealings with the Nazis were exposed. It was the G10, backed by the IMF, that then signed the Smithsonian Agreement in 1971 which ended the Bretton Woods system of fixed currencies, as well as any remnants of the gold standard. This led to the floated currency system we have today, as well as the slow poison of monetary inflation which has now destroyed more than 98 percent of the dollar’s purchasing power.

I believe the next and final step in the banker program is to reestablish a new Bretton Woods style system in the wake of an engineered catastrophe. That is to say, we are about to go full circle. Perhaps Ukraine will be the cover event, or tensions in the South China Sea. Just as Bretton Woods was unveiled during World War II, Bretton Woods redux may be unveiled during World War III. In either case, the false East/West paradigm is the most useful ploy the elites have to bring about a controlled decline of the dollar.

The new system will reintroduce the concept of fixed currencies, but this time, all currencies will be fixed or “pegged” to the value of the SDR global basket. The IMF holds a global SDR summit every five years, and the next meeting is set for the beginning of 2015.

If the Chinese yuan is brought into the SDR basket next year, if the BRICS enter into a conjured economic war with the West, and if the dollar is toppled as the world reserve, there will be nothing left in terms of fiscal structure in the way of a global currency system. If the public does not remove the globalist edifice by force, the IMF and the BIS will then achieve their dream – the complete dissolution of economic sovereignty, and the acceptance by the masses of global financial governance. The elites don’t want to hide behind the curtain anymore. They want recognition. They want to be worshiped. And, it all begins with the secret buyout of America, the implosion of our debt markets, and the annihilation of our way of life.


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Wed, 05/21/2014 - 18:55 | 4783019 gh0atrider
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long waffles...

Wed, 05/21/2014 - 18:59 | 4783034 nope-1004
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Who can print at will?


Wed, 05/21/2014 - 19:04 | 4783046 gmrpeabody
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I don't know who, exactly..., but I think I know where the money comes from.

(hint: your and my retirement)

Wed, 05/21/2014 - 19:16 | 4783090 So What
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I'm always astounded at how fast the chosen tribe destroys America.

Wed, 05/21/2014 - 19:49 | 4783164 Slave
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And, it all begins with the secret buyout of America, the implosion of our debt markets, and the annihilation of our way of life.

And the sheep will be begging for it all the way...

Wed, 05/21/2014 - 20:25 | 4783253 SumTing Wong
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All you crazy conspiracy theorists...the real entity purchasing all those T-bills? It's me. I sold my 1984 Yugo and took that money to buy a couple of savings bonds. Sorry to have caused the confusion.

Wed, 05/21/2014 - 20:42 | 4783294 old naughty
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No country for (any) man.

Wed, 05/21/2014 - 21:29 | 4783417 Manthong
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Wut are U f.n saying… that the Belch do no have the capital to buy all of the superfluous US debt instuoomentations that the banksters feel like creating?

Say it ain’t so.


Wed, 05/21/2014 - 21:42 | 4783451 Supernova Born
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The national garb of Belgium is assless chaps and their national motto is "Hello, sailor".

Wed, 05/21/2014 - 21:48 | 4783483 Manthong
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Those airy chaps seem very appropriate for one mr. van rump boy.

Wed, 05/21/2014 - 21:52 | 4783489 Supernova Born
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The Keynesians' Waterloo.

How fitting.

Wed, 05/21/2014 - 22:31 | 4783588 Manthong
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um.. I do not understand..

Is this waterloo something like a water evacuation treatment for van rump boy?

Wed, 05/21/2014 - 23:19 | 4783715 sleigher
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"I'm always astounded at how fast the chosen tribe destroys America."

This vernacular is interesting in what is acceptable.  Almost code...

Thu, 05/22/2014 - 01:08 | 4783883 old naughty
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no code; not hidden...

In plain sight !

Thu, 05/22/2014 - 04:20 | 4784020 Oracle of Kypseli
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I am not buying anything from this article. We need proof, not theory. One can spin 100 different scenarios about this.

IMHO and many other ZHedgers, it is the FED itself through various dark pool entities.


Thu, 05/22/2014 - 07:34 | 4784154 Sean7k
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Brandon seems to forget the controlling power the US has over the IMF. Since no action can be approved without a US vote in favor. So, Congress would have to "go along". I'm not saying this could not happen, but it is not just a matter where an internatioinal organization freezes us out.

I agree, he "proves" nothing. However, why the need to prove anything? We know the world is in the last throes of a totatlitarian orgasm. The means or method are immaterial. Consequently, it will be up to The People, worldwide, to decide to go along. If we refuse, it will matter not what ploys are used. 

Stop participating, stop respecting, go black markets. They only have power if you give it to them.

Wed, 05/21/2014 - 21:54 | 4783496 RiverRoad
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And NATO's headquarters are in convenient.

Wed, 05/21/2014 - 22:17 | 4783549 max2205
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Gigs up.....

Wed, 05/21/2014 - 23:16 | 4783706 Syrin
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So will the new currency be gold backed?

Thu, 05/22/2014 - 01:03 | 4783879 EscapingProgress
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The new currency will be backed with lies, same as the old currency.

Wed, 05/21/2014 - 18:59 | 4783037 knukles
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This is not new news... EuroClear, I mean, not waffles.

Wed, 05/21/2014 - 19:01 | 4783043 LetThemEatRand
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Yeah, I drank some of that EuroClear in college.  Leaves you broke and with a nasty hangover.

Wed, 05/21/2014 - 19:03 | 4783048 kito
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we used to put them in jello shots

Wed, 05/21/2014 - 19:06 | 4783059 gmrpeabody
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Can make you blind, they say.

Wed, 05/21/2014 - 19:23 | 4783106 Mi Naem
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With hairy palms?!? 

Wed, 05/21/2014 - 20:09 | 4783214 Harbanger
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and yet we wonder what happened.

Wed, 05/21/2014 - 21:37 | 4783444 Handful of Dust
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I thought 'Ur All Clear' was that new prostate medicine. I guess I was spelling it rong.

Thu, 05/22/2014 - 02:57 | 4783984 Oracle of Kypseli
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Just spilled coffee on my keyboard! 

Wed, 05/21/2014 - 19:03 | 4783049 thamnosma
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nice one

Wed, 05/21/2014 - 19:05 | 4783051 knukles
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That's Everclear, the depository of perpetual funds


I'm not sure its the IMF or BIS.  They have accounts directly at the Fed, holdings there showing up as "official foreign".
This stinks to me of some third party like a GS, JPM or Citadel, whomever, being engaged by the Fed/Treasury to purchase the securities so that they do not show as "official" and thus understates the reported monetization.

Wed, 05/21/2014 - 19:07 | 4783066 LetThemEatRand
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That's probably a good bet.   

Wed, 05/21/2014 - 20:11 | 4783218 DeadFred
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But Goldman isn't known for it's altruism so where did they get the cash that doesn't show a paper trail. The big banks may all be cesspools of darkness but they can't directly print fiat.

Wed, 05/21/2014 - 23:09 | 4783256 SumTing Wong
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So which person or people in places of power used to work at Goldman? Might those officials have "helped" their former employer?

Once a Goldmanite, always a dickhead. Or something like that.

Wed, 05/21/2014 - 23:03 | 4783680 TheReplacement
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That is how the Fed "prints".  Why would a bank "printing" electronic fiat be any different?  We aren't talking about dollars backed by gold.  We aren't even talking about dollars backed by paper.  We are talking about 1s and 0s in a computer.  Anyone who has access can "print".

Queue Wang Dong. 

Wed, 05/21/2014 - 23:59 | 4783789 Steaming_Wookie_Doo
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Sorry, I could only get Long Duck Dong:


Thu, 05/22/2014 - 07:54 | 4784191 RabbitChow
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Yah, that's in the hands of a low-grade GS 5 Treasury employee who is told to click the mouse button once or twice a day.  Lots of work there.

Wed, 05/21/2014 - 20:49 | 4783311 piliage
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Belgium? International plot of world domination? Can only be one thing...

Wed, 05/21/2014 - 22:28 | 4783577 harposox
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Interesting idea. Here's another thought: We know from the aftermath of the 07/08 crisis that the U.S. Treasury sent bailout funds to the ECB and various European banks... Could this be the ECB, returning the favor?

Wed, 05/21/2014 - 22:32 | 4783594 ArkansasAngie
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Thu, 05/22/2014 - 00:59 | 4783870 old naughty
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all collaterals are in the vault, underwater and burned.


"...The East vs. West paradigm is a sham of the highest order."

Isn't that the kicker? Not what it seems...

Only one invincible hand, stirring.

Wed, 05/21/2014 - 23:09 | 4783689 SumTing Wong
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Kind of like a reacharound???

Wed, 05/21/2014 - 23:37 | 4783751 TheFutureReset
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ECB? Not likely, they have a mountain of shit at home and don't have the means either. Scary thought, the Fed doesn't know either. They are consistently incompetent, it'd only be fitting if some player or group of players is manipulating the Fed's manipulation. 

Thu, 05/22/2014 - 10:11 | 4784215 free_lunch
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Good luck, and don't be evil.

Wed, 05/21/2014 - 23:14 | 4783697 fockewulf190
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Didn´t the Fed print trillions and lent it to a bunch of EU foreign banks not so long back?   Could it be plausable that Dragi is just printing billions of Euros in secret, buying T-Bills with it for the Fed, and just giving them to Belgium as well as other EU nations?  I remember seeing a list of T-Bill holdings by EU countries recently, and they all are way up.  Sounds like the Fed asked for a favor, and they are getting it.

Wed, 05/21/2014 - 19:06 | 4783063 Hulk
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waffles with Aunt jemima syrup, datz razist !!!

Wed, 05/21/2014 - 23:05 | 4783682 TheReplacement
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Yeah but if you refuse the syrup you will be called racist for putting down a black woman.  Irony at its best.

Wed, 05/21/2014 - 19:07 | 4783064 bbq on whitehou...
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That becomes less funny with time, and more important.

Wed, 05/21/2014 - 19:16 | 4783092 kill switch
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I posted this in another

As Russia Dumps A Record Amount Of US Treasurys, Here Is What It Is Buying



Vote down!


Let's get this right class, the fucking Belgium’s have an extra $20,000.00 per person to buy fucking toilet paper of U.S. T's ???? This is the biggest kiting scheme in history, thanx Yellen...Proves their NOT tapering...

Wed, 05/21/2014 - 19:50 | 4783173 Jumbotron
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"My investigation into Euroclear found some interesting facts. Euroclear has financial relationships with more than 90 percent of the world’s central banks and was once partly owned and run by 120 of the largest financial institutions back when it was called the “Euroclear System”. The organization was consolidated and operated by none other than JP Morgan Bank in 1972. In 2000, Euroclear was officially incorporated and became its own entity. However, one must remember, once a JP Morgan bank, always a JP Morgan bank."


Morgan would be proud to know that his legacy lives on.  For he saved America with his own funds after the Panic of 1907

"The panic might have deepened if not for the intervention of financier J. P. Morgan,[3] who pledged large sums of his own money, and convinced other New York bankers to do the same, to shore up the banking system. At the time, the United States did not have a central bank to inject liquidity back into the market. By November, the financial contagion had largely ended, only to be replaced by a further crisis. This was due to the heavy borrowing of a large brokerage firm that used the stock of Tennessee Coal, Iron and Railroad Company (TC&I) as collateral. Collapse of TC&I's stock price was averted by an emergency takeover by Morgan's U.S. Steel Corporation—a move approved by anti-monopolist president Theodore Roosevelt. The following year, Senator Nelson W. Aldrich, father-in-law of John D. Rockefeller, Jr., established and chaired a commission to investigate the crisis and propose future solutions, leading to the creation of the Federal Reserve System.[4][5] "

And...yep...Morgan and the banksters colluded together after the Panic of 1907 to wrest Constitutional control of America's finances from the people and give it to themselves.

And in 1913 America died.  Shot to death by two bullets to the head.  The first being the Revenue Act of 1913 setting up the federal income tax and the I.R.S. to make sure the serfs paid their fair share.....and the second bullet was the The Federal Reserve Act of 1913.

Wed, 05/21/2014 - 20:41 | 4783291 Yes_Questions
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I guess this article points to a possible third bullet fired just to make sure?





Thu, 05/22/2014 - 02:20 | 4783954 Oh regional Indian
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A very interesting twist on those dates you mention there.

Mind boggling actually...

Wed, 05/21/2014 - 21:22 | 4783399 yrad
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Nice post. I'm reading 'The Creature from Jekyll Island' right now and that all sounded familiar.

Thu, 05/22/2014 - 09:27 | 4784463 jackstraw001
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+1   Every ZH-er should read this book!

Wed, 05/21/2014 - 23:17 | 4783710 NickVegas
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I get pissed at this because it was a critical piece of the 1913 plan, the direct election of the US Senate.

It's not coincidence, itt was part of the plan. My spidey senses tell me it may be the most important part of the plan, because no one ever mentions this piece. 

"Under the original provisions of the Constitution, senators were elected by state legislatures; this was intended to prevent the federal government from indirectly absconding with the powers and funds of the states. However, over time various issues with these provisions, such as the risk of corruption and the potential for electoral deadlocks or a lack of representation should a seat become vacant, led to a campaign for reform."

Wake the fuck up, this is the culmination of a hundred year conspiracy, and now the globalists are finished with the US. What they have in store is looking real dicey, but it's obvious that starving masses will capitulate if they survive.




Thu, 05/22/2014 - 05:27 | 4784042 Disenchanted
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J.P. Morgan money/funds = Rothschild money/funds

Can you say frontman?



figurehead: an apparent leader of an organization or activity in which somebody else has the real power, secretly or illegally concealed



CHAPTER FIVE The House of Rothschild [SECRETS OF THE FEDERAL RESERVE By Eustace Mullins]

Wed, 05/21/2014 - 22:11 | 4783530 Snidley Whipsnae
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The scribbler of this one hasn't heard of Occam's Razor...

Yeah, it's a deep and dark rabbit hole but convoluted dot connections will not unravel the mystery... and I certainly don't know the Belgium/Ts connection.

Wed, 05/21/2014 - 22:38 | 4783610 Al Gorerhythm
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Waffling along...

Wed, 05/21/2014 - 18:55 | 4783024 stant
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Hot potato = mr potato head

Wed, 05/21/2014 - 18:58 | 4783030 Impoverished Ps...
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So..... Icke was right after all.


I hope all those who called him mad will apologize.


Wed, 05/21/2014 - 19:06 | 4783061 knukles
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Wed, 05/21/2014 - 19:42 | 4783150 john39
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well, take a good at say, John Kerry or Prince Charles...  its at least debatable whether these fuckers have forked tongues...  if not in body, certainly in spirit.

Wed, 05/21/2014 - 19:52 | 4783174 Dewey Cheatum Howe
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Reptilians are three eyed fornicators. The deliverance crew of the owners and elites. The more inbred they are the more fucked up looking they get.

Squeal like a pig serf.

Wed, 05/21/2014 - 20:47 | 4783306 Yes_Questions
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and we get flouride so as to see with only two..

Thu, 05/22/2014 - 10:46 | 4784704 detached.amusement
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I seriously doubt the vast majority of 'em put in the time to cultivate it, there aint no such thing as spiritual welfare.

Wed, 05/21/2014 - 21:30 | 4783420 Radical Marijuana
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I found that David Icke's explanations of the "Reptile" thing has improved over time, becoming more openly acknowledged to be metaphorical, or involving other levels of "reality." That was the way that I always interpreted Icke's assertions, that they were metaphorical truths, not literal truths, although, given that there almost certainly ARE other levels of "reality," then those perceptions may well be "real" on those levels of vibrations ... whatever that may mean.

Here is another flashback to similar notions, as presented in the middle of this series from 2012:

The Holographic Disclosure 1 of 7
There is an attempt to shoehorn science into old-fashioned religious dualities, and hence, I think it is dangerously stupid fake science, yet still, preposterously goofy stuff may be entertaining, and worthwhile to wonder about whatever MIGHT be so?

In part 6, at 4 minute mark, was stated these facts:

"... at least 98% of people are walking around in a trance, with their heads buried in the sand ..."


I tend to presume that Energy is Spirit. (Matter is super concentrated energy, and therefore, Everything is Spirit.) That perception then generates notions which are similar to ancient mysticism, or even animism, in the deep past of the human evolution of consciousness. In that context, I would consider it to axiomatic that EVERY living thing is surrounded by resonating energy fields, which are the "spirits" of that living thing, on other levels of "reality."

That frame of reference being presumed, then the people who evolved to act like the top carnivores in the Neolithic style of social pyramid systems would be like all other living beings, which had a flow of "spiritual energy" through their vibrational structures. Thus, the people who were selected to be the best at being dishonest, and backing that up with violence, in order to become the most wealthy and powerful people, operating at the top of the social pyramid systems, would certainly be metaphorically like Reptiles, Aliens, or Demons, or could be literally be seen to be so, IF one allows the idea that energy patterns are things which literally exist.

Thus, every living being would have higher and lower levels, of supraconsciousness and subconsciousness, which would actually exist, and be "real" on their own level ... in some ways where whatever we say about those necessarily blends from the metaphorical to the relatively more literal truth, and back again.

For the vast majority of ordinary human beings, it is hard to imagine how the collective groups of trillionaire mass murders at the top of the currently established social pyramid systems have developed their culture. I presume that culture flows through the generations, like the chreodes or morphic fields do. Those would be universal ideas, which happened to show up most extremely in the ways that the human beings that evolved to be the top most of the top carnivores, of the men that prey on the conscious energy of other men, are surely like Reptiles, Aliens, and/or Demons, compared to the vast majority of other human beings who are their prey.

In that context, an article like the one above seems obviously true to me. However, coming up with any better resolutions to those problems seems practically impossible, because it is NOT possible to get enough people to agree upon any alternative systems.

The banksters were simply those who were the best at operating what "money" actually IS: measurement backed by murder. The ability of the banksters to dominate the murder systems was what enabled them to dominate the monetary systems. Their ability to continue to create "money" out of nothing as debts was due to their historical abilities to operate as the best organized gangs of criminals.

The banksters were able to get away with the systematic bribery and intimidation of politicians, which include the discrediting or destroying of politicians which could not be otherwise bribed or intimidated. The most important form of murder, which had the maximum leverage over time, was the assassination of politicians which were a problem for the banksters.

By dominating the political processes, the banksters were then able to ratchet up control over the government, so that governments became legalized systems of lies, backed by violence, through which the people could be paid to enslave themselves more and more, worse and worse, faster and faster ... until we are reaching the point where the systems of debt slavery have generated numbers which are debt insanities.

The essential stumbling block to any better resolutions of the chronic political problems is that they MUST be based upon and backed by better death controls systems. The banksters' debt control was due to their actual history of running the death controls to back their ability to make "money" out of nothing, as legalized counterfeiting of the public "money" supply by private banks.

As long as the vast majority of people do not go through at least TWO STEPS, to understanding that FIRST, money is measurement backed by murder, and second IT MUST BE, then there are no better resolutions to the chronic political problems which are practically possible. HOWEVER, GIVEN THE SOCIAL FACTS THAT THE OVERWHELMING VAST MAJORITY OF HUMAN BEINGS ACT LIKE ZOMBIE SHEEPLE, THAT DO NOT WANT TO UNDERSTAND THE BANKSTERS, IT IS ALMOST IMPOSSIBLE TO IMAGINE ANYTHING ELSE THAN THE BANKSTERS' CRIMINAL INSANITIES CONTINUING TO CONTROL CIVILIZATION.

Wed, 05/21/2014 - 22:35 | 4783603 BrocilyBeef
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I don't think there's time... but here's for trying.

Thu, 05/22/2014 - 00:33 | 4783845 Radical Marijuana
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Yeah, BocilyBeef!

I feel we ARE

running out of time!

Wed, 05/21/2014 - 23:21 | 4783719 NickVegas
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The reptilian brain exists in every human, maybe some are dominated by that piece. One plausible solution to these vexations.

Thu, 05/22/2014 - 00:23 | 4783828 Radical Marijuana
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Yeah, NickVegas, the same point you made was mentioned, starting at the 18:30 minute mark of this video, which I linked previously:

The Holographic Disclosure 5 of 7
Wed, 05/21/2014 - 18:59 | 4783031 viator
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Must be the Rothschilds or maybe Henry VIII.

Wed, 05/21/2014 - 19:04 | 4783055 LetThemEatRand
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Thanks.  Now I have "Henry the Eighth I am" in my head.

Wed, 05/21/2014 - 19:08 | 4783071 Harbanger
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Wanna play Lola?, I'm in the mood.

Wed, 05/21/2014 - 19:14 | 4783084 LetThemEatRand
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I actually need to go eat tinfoil and shave my head with a cheese grater instead.

Wed, 05/21/2014 - 19:21 | 4783100 Harbanger
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We're  on the same sinking boat Lola, but I still love arguing with you.

Wed, 05/21/2014 - 19:28 | 4783114 Burnbright
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Does Rand make you weak in the knees or something?

Wed, 05/21/2014 - 19:55 | 4783154 Harbanger
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Her name is not Rand, She eats Rand. Dumbass.

Edit-  I'm lookin for an argument from Lola, my long lost friend, you can play at your own risk if you like.

Wed, 05/21/2014 - 20:28 | 4783262 SumTing Wong
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"I'm still a man and so is Lola...."

Should we tell Harbanger the secret? Nahhhhhhhh.....

Wed, 05/21/2014 - 21:43 | 4783462 Harbanger
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Sum ting Wong with your weewee? Tell me "the secret" Oprah.

Wed, 05/21/2014 - 22:05 | 4783511 Harbanger
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Answer me bitch.  I know lyrics.   Don't start sum ting you can't finish.  This is fight club faggot.

Wed, 05/21/2014 - 22:51 | 4783652 Harbanger
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Still waiting faggot.  You haven't been here for 2 months and you're avoiding a proper hazing.  I will fuck with you for your duration here if you don't respond.

Wed, 05/21/2014 - 20:54 | 4783316 Pie rre
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She's not there

God we're old

Wed, 05/21/2014 - 18:59 | 4783033 bh2
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Belgium is still a country?

Wed, 05/21/2014 - 19:08 | 4783070 Midas
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I think it is still a country, but they may not have a government.  Has anyone considered that this could be easily explained by Kim Clijsters converting her sponsorship money into Treasuries? 

Wed, 05/21/2014 - 18:59 | 4783035 Seize Mars
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Bring it.

The SDR will also return to its intrinsic value as well.

I don't give a fuck. Everyone knows the trrsts are in DC, London and Tel Aviv. I'm not afraid of your next false flag fiasco, you fucking morons.

Your move, scumbag liars.

Wed, 05/21/2014 - 23:14 | 4783700 Syrin
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Why haven't we sent in a team of Seals to take out the board of the IMF and BiS?   It's not liker they're particularly difficult targets.

Thu, 05/22/2014 - 00:02 | 4783796 Seize Mars
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Who do you think gives Seals their orders?


Wed, 05/21/2014 - 18:59 | 4783036 phoolish
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Wed, 05/21/2014 - 19:09 | 4783073 g'kar
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They were honorable, in their own profit seeking ways.

Wed, 05/21/2014 - 19:03 | 4783047 Winston Churchill
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Swiss francs are looking better and better as a SoV, if
he is right.

Wed, 05/21/2014 - 19:04 | 4783050 Baldershymn
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Too bad then for the Elites, that I Am Sovereign.

Wed, 05/21/2014 - 19:07 | 4783052 adeptus
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Wed, 05/21/2014 - 19:20 | 4783097 Mi Naem
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It wasn't even funny the first time.

Wed, 05/21/2014 - 19:04 | 4783053 adeptus
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SDRs will never work, they need to include TITCOIN as part of the basket. I mean, which nation doesn't have/want tits? it would be the fairest way to distribute currency as nearly all countries have 50% women in them.

Hey IMF and BIS... TITS or GTFO! 

Wed, 05/21/2014 - 22:38 | 4783611 BrocilyBeef
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You posted this four times? Bravo.

Wed, 05/21/2014 - 19:07 | 4783054 adeptus
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Wed, 05/21/2014 - 22:38 | 4783609 BrocilyBeef
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Pretty adept at this thing?

I know, WebTV is hard!

Wed, 05/21/2014 - 19:06 | 4783056 adeptus
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Wed, 05/21/2014 - 19:07 | 4783060 adeptus
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Oops sorry about the quadruple posts.. there was no "post" button, just as save button and I couldn't tell if it was working. Also there's no DELETE option... wtf ZH?

Wed, 05/21/2014 - 19:10 | 4783078 g'kar
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Things have changed drastically in the 4 years you've been here.

Wed, 05/21/2014 - 22:43 | 4783627 BrocilyBeef
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Agreed. The site has definitely improved. Personally, I like that there's a more global, inclusive and multicultural pair of tits for sale on the sidebar. 

Wed, 05/21/2014 - 23:47 | 4783772 g'kar
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I really hated to use adblock and ghostery to vanquish those titties.

Wed, 05/21/2014 - 19:27 | 4783112 donsluck
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Dear adeptus, consider determining what you want to say BEFORE hitting the "Reply" button. At least you appologized. Took me FOREVER to read your annoying periods.

Wed, 05/21/2014 - 19:07 | 4783065 Atomizer
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Wed, 05/21/2014 - 20:38 | 4783283 sgt_doom
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I mean, Holy Crap, but look at the board members of Euroclear plc (the parent company of Euroclear):

A dood from State Street Corporation,

and Bank of America Merrill Lynch,

and HSBC Holdings,

and Citigroup,

and JP Morgan plc,

and Royal Bank of Scotland,

and Bank of New York Mellon,

 and BNP Parabas,

and Credit Suisse,

and Société Générale,

and Deutsche Bank AG,

and Morgan Stanley EMEA.

I mean, Holy Crap!


Wed, 05/21/2014 - 22:46 | 4783643 harposox
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I believe Euroclear is what is typically called a shell corporation, or in intelligence parlance, a "cutout."

Wed, 05/21/2014 - 19:07 | 4783068 knukles
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You must adept ...

Wed, 05/21/2014 - 19:08 | 4783069 kchrisc
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"Who Is The New Secret Buyer Of U.S. Debt?"

The FedRes.

What did I win?!

Wed, 05/21/2014 - 19:11 | 4783079 i_call_you_my_base
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Wed, 05/21/2014 - 20:02 | 4783201 Kayman
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"Who Is The New Secret Buyer Of U.S. Debt?"

Germany-using their U.S. gold warehouse receipts as collateral and 99-1 leverage at the Fed.

This ain't going to be pretty when the first bug hits the windshield (screen).

Wed, 05/21/2014 - 20:28 | 4783259 runningman18
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It's bigger than the Fed.  The IMF and BIS are the buyers of last resort now.  Global currency and global governance is the endgame.

Wed, 05/21/2014 - 19:10 | 4783074 Yen Cross
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  So who is Euroclear buying the bonds from? The Bank for International Settlements (BIS) (in French, Banque des règlements internationaux (BRI)) is an international organization of central banks.

   Is Euroclear representing a central bank(s), or a large organization? Unbelievable how the cabal/tribe is able to hide such massive transactions that involve public debt. <Criminals>

Wed, 05/21/2014 - 19:58 | 4783189 Dewey Cheatum Howe
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It is easy when you run the system from top to bottom.

You want to know who the real owners are there is only one bank you need to penetrate and expose the accounts in....

Though Euroclear would be a good challenge for any anonymous hackers who want to prove they are l33t 1337. Information dump of transactions including entities.

Wed, 05/21/2014 - 20:27 | 4783254 Flagit
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Most transparent administration EVAH!

Wed, 05/21/2014 - 19:14 | 4783085 I Write Code
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Russia (and others) buying back their own US debt under false title.

Wed, 05/21/2014 - 22:09 | 4783527 I Write Code
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Why would anyone downclick this?  Mysteries of the ZH ...

Wed, 05/21/2014 - 22:47 | 4783647 Spumoni
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Consider the source...

Wed, 05/21/2014 - 23:52 | 4783780 TheFutureReset
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Perhaps China and Russia don't want the US to correct just yet. They have more up their sleeve to complete the perfect storm for the dollar. We give the idiots at the Fed too much credit. People bash them one second for being incompetent, not knowing how to run their business, and then turn around and say there is a huge and omnipotent class of super human ever harmonious group of bankers that are going to take over the world? Which is it, idiots or gods? 

I think whoever is buying these treasuries, is doing so in secret even to the Fed. Always watch what the other hand is doing... 

Wed, 05/21/2014 - 19:16 | 4783089 Joe Tierney
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Conspiracy theory - buyer beware.  "False East/West paradigm" ?


Yeah, right! People have to have a grandiose "explanation" for things that they can say makes sense - they can't simply believe that the East/West rivalry is mostly what it appears on its face - the rivalry between two blocs with incompatible goals and interests.


It always has to be explained in terms of some grand conspiracy, and the international bankers are always pulling the strings, able to orchestrate global events on a grand, but somewhat gradual, scale. I don't buy into it - humans are just not that smart. The IQ of these supposed international puppetiers would have to be far greater than is realistic.


I think the true explanation is much more down-to-earth: The U.S. sees the dollar and the U.S.-centric financial order in trouble and is arranging the proxy to buy its debt. Sure - that's sneaky and conniving - but there are no Grand Puppetiers orchestrating world wars, etc thereby inexorably pushing the order to a new global reserve currency.


This conspiracy theory mish-mash is the stuff video games are made of.

Wed, 05/21/2014 - 19:29 | 4783117 Mi Naem
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It all depends on who's funding the parties to the conflict, including direct combatants and proxy string-pullers. 

Then you see how conspiracy meets reality.  War is just a racket that shows people a taste of hell before sending them there for the benefit of transnational elites.  That's not news - no tin foil hat required. 

Wed, 05/21/2014 - 19:30 | 4783120 donsluck
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Is it a conspiracy or incompetance? I'll vote for the former.

Wed, 05/21/2014 - 20:47 | 4783238 libertysghost
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Your not arguing against conspiracy...just debating who the conspirators are aren't you?  It's arguably a more elaborate double conspiracy battle between US interests and IMF interests.  I'd like to see you make a case for why we should think those 'US interests' are distinctly 'US'.  I'm open to the idea...but I can't say my readings of the 'goins-on' have led me to that conclusion.  

And for your East/West traditional narrative to play this global finance battle implies...than it would assume the US & IMF are conspiring against the 'East' out of that tradition required in that narrative.  Your just redirecting the conspiracy away from the US as 'target'.

I do not see a global financier nationalist movement coming that narrative would fortell.  

Wed, 05/21/2014 - 21:09 | 4783375 Joe Tierney
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Yeah, I'm NOT arguing against conspiracy - it's the GRAND conspiracy I'm arguing against. And I'm not even arguing against the idea that there very well may be some influential people out there with designs similar to what the article asserts. But it's a very long way from that position to the assertions made in this article.


It's fundamentally a cause-and-effect argument, as I see it. The grand conspiracy theorists assert that the international financier puppetiers are mostly the cause, and world wars, regional wars, collapses of currencies and financial systems, etc etc are mostly effect. It takes a great deal of blind faith (because you can't actually prove conspiracy truly exists and functions effectively at this level) and inordinate suspicion to adopt that belief system.


I certainly understand suspicion, and blind faith comes into the picture when we WANT to believe something without actually having a good set of hard facts to support it. But the level of suspicion required to sign onto such grandiose conspiracy theories is, in my view, getting well into the realm of mental and emotional imbalance.


Hell, the bankers and international financiers certainly know how to capitalize on virtually any geopolitical or financial situation that develops, and they can certainly cause and/or exacerbate certain situations, to their own greedy profit. But to believe in the grand conspiracy of global puppetiers pulling all the strings behind the scenes to create all these geopolitical and financial situations is a step too far - it sounds like Charley's father in the movie, "So I married an Axe Murderer", (Mike Meyers), who thinks 3 people really rule the world - "The Rothschilds, the Queen and Colonel Sanders, who puts an addictive chemical in the chicken to make you crave it fortnightly, SMART ASS!"


I am of the belief that global events are a mix of cause and effect, and on a grand scale (unless you want to finger Satan in the spirit realm) there are no human puppetiers. So I know there are curtains, with players operating behind them secretly, but the grand and unified scale of this stuff presented in the article is just too irrational and unproven to put confidence in. I'm not a person that needs to have a grand-scale scapegoat to blame everything on. There's plenty in the mix, so to speak - greed, power, incompetance, geopolitics, etc - to expain world events, without having to resort to this elitist grand conspiracy mentality, which arrogantly asserts it is informed and has the answers, while everyone else is dumb, clueless and in the dark. That's a red flag for me - this is almost like a cult - you must accept and put faith in the beliefs else you're not worthy, not keeping the faith, as it were.


NO ONE does my thinking for me - I do my own, and I reach no conclusions under peer or any other kind of pressure. I do not subscribe to the herd mentality - I question EVERYTHING and look for answers in the verifiable facts, and if those are lacking, I employ genuine unemotional logic to test the reasonableness of an assertion. I'm not emotionally or mentally susceptible to the kind of grand conspiracy that seems so cult-like popular here at ZH.

Wed, 05/21/2014 - 22:28 | 4783579 Spumoni
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Huzzah! A thinking man! Wouldst thou were a banker, financier or politicist, Herr Tierney. Though we walk through the shadow of the Valley of Morons, we shall pee no moonshine. Yea, there be those who call a cat black, and damn the powers that be for their evil genius in one breath. In the next, they lament the stupidity of same! Reminds me of Coleridge's uninvited wedding guest, who, once full and besotted upon the host's largesse, went his way bemoaning the paucity of hospitality at the event.

I doubt not that we have witnessed the usurpation of popular government by profit-driven fools. Yet what are we, who love gold and bullets? Are we not the same, save that we have not the license nor the cash to out the world into the order we would be pleased to see? Behold! All men are the same: All love a good meal, a belly laugh,  a bit of melody that shuts up their minds for a few seconds of bliss. We love well, each of us, a good night's sleep and a masterly fuck!

Be there those who disdain such blessings for the power of power? Of course! But they are fools, who leave behind in their wake a stream of anguish, and their names and mouths are stopped all with dust and dung. What use are they to a planet that counts billions of years in its age? What use are they to the entertainment of the soul? Despite their brave faces and vast wealth, they are largely a miserable lot, hung by drink and drugs, perverted beyond the enjoyment of lovemaking. Why ought we, who love this brief life, to spend our lives working feverishly to become as those we hate? 

A fool's errand. And as the man said - a Jew, I think: "The only fool bigger than the man who knows it all is the one who argues with him!"

Wed, 05/21/2014 - 23:25 | 4783723 NickVegas
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They will not stop, don't look behind the curtain. That is the clear message.

Wed, 05/21/2014 - 20:53 | 4783323 SweetDoug
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Got a better explanation other than, 'it just happens'?



Wed, 05/21/2014 - 21:12 | 4783384 new game
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where is the oil? this will give you a clue. Who controls it today? tomarrow?

currencies come and go, but without oil the shabang collapses fast.

mic>insures flow>east meets west over where it flows to and what unit of currency exchanges.

this is what it is and what the struggle is about...

Wed, 05/21/2014 - 19:19 | 4783095 freedom5000
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Even if they get rid of the global elite - it's too late USA is bankrupt and even useless as a debtors prison.

Wed, 05/21/2014 - 19:20 | 4783099 freedom5000
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Maybe the US is buying it's own debt with euroclear to put with all the other debt it has already bought.

Wed, 05/21/2014 - 19:21 | 4783101 freedom5000
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Maybe JP Morgan is buying it with all the QE money

Wed, 05/21/2014 - 19:22 | 4783102 Make_Mine_A_Double
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Belgium swings a pretty big dick in the bond markets these days.

Wed, 05/21/2014 - 19:24 | 4783108 John McCloy
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Well now Russia is clearly out of the UST game and a net seller until they have expended all their holdings. Next up is China.
We know the Fed is involved in the purchases my guess is they are allowing all parties in Europe to repo all forms of trash "assets" with inflated value in exchange...Ahhh...the beauty of getting rid of market to market standards.
Anyone else remember that? Not many huh? And that's how they want it...the rule created to prevent or minimize an Enron event has gone phantom and will never return as called out her 5 years ago. Won't matter real world is catching up slowly via oil prices and same size cereal boxes with less content and smaller chocolate bars.

If Germany was really smart they would forget about asking for waiting for their gold back and insist that the U.S. pay for their open market purchases in lieu until they are made whole.
I hear Russia and China are stocked up well. End game is 2014 we won't make it out of this.

Wed, 05/21/2014 - 22:39 | 4783615 luckylogger
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Well Johny... look at the market....

If everybody is selling and nobody is buying...

Why does the price continually go up???

Obviously there are more buyers than sellers...

Look at the tape, what else can I say..

Price determins supply and demand, not bullshit blustering from politicians that think they control the world.......

Wed, 05/21/2014 - 19:26 | 4783111 luckylogger
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It is simple- The ruskies want to show they are getting rid of us debt but they really cannot afford to get rid of it because, guys like it or not... it is still the global currency. 100 dollor bills are the revered currency in russia. So what to do? Sell the treasuries from their state account and buy them with their euroclear account. Putin looks like he is ditching the buck and everybody is happy... go ahead and down arrow me but I would put a 100 dollor bill on it any time........... Its the way the politics work...

Wed, 05/21/2014 - 19:44 | 4783157 Againstthelie
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If that was the case, do you really believe, the Ziomedia wouldn't be all over it to ridicule Putin?

Wed, 05/21/2014 - 20:06 | 4783210 luckylogger
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What about all the big shots in russia with big wads of 100 dollor bills?

Putin gonna tell them to stop that?

They all know the ruble crashed 15 years ago and will not take that risk ever again.... 

I mean really the guy is starting to act like the dude in north korea, doing crazy stuff because we have a puss for a president. and can get away with it.

hopefully our puss will be gone soon and somebody with some common sence will show up but it is crazy now.

But the us even with the puss in chief still does rule the oceans and the airspace.... god help us and for how long who knows............

Wed, 05/21/2014 - 21:17 | 4783389 Againstthelie
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Have you ever looked at a globe and know where USrael is?

Where does your arrogance come from, to believe that you have the right to threaten other nations?! Have your learned that in a kibbutz, shekelblogger?


Wed, 05/21/2014 - 22:37 | 4783604 Spumoni
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Ah look. Another moron who drank the kool-aid. Are you paid to be anti-Semitic? Or are you just the descendant of Euro-Indian casteers, who burned millions at the stake for daring to think differently from a Pope or a French king? Keep believing your little personal delusive drama - that's exactly what your masters want you to do. In the meantime, Believethelie, you're a fucking idiot.

Thu, 05/22/2014 - 13:22 | 4785353 Againstthelie
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Burned millions? Like the Holocaust mentioned in the Old Testament? Or the one in anti-German WW1 propaganda?

And the only one that does not allow others to think differently, is your regime, when you support the Zionist world tyranny.

Wed, 05/21/2014 - 19:28 | 4783115 dumbStruck
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The "money" is coming from the ass of a unicorn.

Wed, 05/21/2014 - 19:31 | 4783123 Fix-ItSilly
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"If the American people ever allow private banks [Central Banks]  to control the issue of their currency, first by inflation, then by deflation, the banks and corporations that will grow up around them will deprive the people of all property until their children wake up homeless on the continent their Fathers conquered...I believe that banking institutions are more dangerous to our liberties than standing armies... The issuing power should be taken from the banks and restored to the people, to whom it properly belongs." Thomas Jefferson

Wed, 05/21/2014 - 19:33 | 4783129 orangegeek
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Too much conspiracy in this one, even for me.


You want to make the Juan the reserve or a reserve influence?  Fine.  With $17T amassed in five years and a reporting system that is second to the Russians.


Go right ahead.


Wed, 05/21/2014 - 19:35 | 4783130 lasvegaspersona
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Not to point fingers but may I suggest using the word 'thir' for all those commentators who can't grasp the difference between 'they're' their' and 'there'. It has a nice hillbilly ring to it and since it is not a word it makes the user seem to be going for an affected try. Always preferrable to 'never completed grade school spelling and usage'.

That's 'l3teist..I n0...

Wed, 05/21/2014 - 20:03 | 4783176 cowdiddly
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And since you bring it up, you sir, need to go back to grammer school and learn what  commas are and the use of an apostrophe versus quotation marks  before you start calling other people third grade hillbillies.

It is always the grammer Nazis.

Wed, 05/21/2014 - 20:18 | 4783237 spdrdr
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And you, sir, need to learn how to spell "grammar" properly, otherwise you look like a third-grade hillbilly.

Wed, 05/21/2014 - 22:09 | 4783508 cowdiddly
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I am not the one picking on people here. For a lot of people here, English is their second or third language.  I have had many who tried to impress me  with their intelligence by their command of a language and even less who actually succeeded. And besides, I would take calling me a third grade hillbilly as a compliment.

Oh, and by the way there Storm Trooper, third and grade needs no hyphen.

Wed, 05/21/2014 - 22:18 | 4783557 Al Huxley
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I like to think of myself as fairly literate, but lots of times I'll post and then realize that in my rush to put thoughts into writing I did something stupid like using their instead of they're, or your instead of you're, or a bunch of others.  It's not that I don't know the proper usage, it's that I'm a poor proof reader of my own writing.  I expect I'm not the only one.  However, perhaps I will start using 'thir'...

Wed, 05/21/2014 - 22:40 | 4783621 Spumoni
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There's this thing called 'proofreading."

Thu, 05/22/2014 - 02:57 | 4783910 spdrdr
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It all depends, diddles.

If you are using "third grade" to define a Year 3 class in primary school, then yes, I concede that hyphenation is not necessary.

However, where you are utilising "third-grade" to define or articulate a performance standard (i.e. as a compound adjective), then one will normally hyphenate.

For instance, one may consider someone who cannot properly spell "grammar" to be a first-grade moron, especially when admonishing another poster for punctuation errors.  Not, you will note, a "first grade moron", which implies a five or six year old with well below average IQ.

Again, someone who uses an asinine phrase like "and by the way there Storm Trooper" without proper punctuation, could well be considered a second-grade moron. Not, you will again note, a "second grade moron", likewise implying a six or seven year old of limited intellectual abilities.

Given that the appellation of "third-grade hillbilly" was not intended by me to convey the image of an eight or nine year old hillbilly (rather, as a performance-based compound adjective, it was intended to convey the image of a hillbilly who could not reach the higher rungs of hillbilly academic or social achievement levels that are common to hillbillies), I do concede that it may have caused you some confusion.  

Feeling in quite a magnanimous mood, I unreservedly apologise for the confusion and sense of outrage that your evident lack of education has occasioned for you.



Wed, 05/21/2014 - 22:39 | 4783612 Spumoni
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Ah lahk yer grammer, bud. Yew got enny sintacks to go wit' dat?

Wed, 05/21/2014 - 19:35 | 4783134 jubber
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Isn't this just Jim Rckards theory re-hashed?

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