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China's Anti-Terrorism Challenge

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Submitted by Shannon Tiezzi via The Diplomat,

In the wake of another deadly terrorist attack in Urumqi, Chinese leaders are repeating their assurances that China will “severely punish terrorists” and increase its security measures.  “The Chinese government has the confidence and capability to crack down on the audacious terrorists,” Foreign Ministry spokesman Hong Lei said. Unfortunately, after three coordinated attacks in public places since March, such promises are beginning to ring hollow.

Generally, China’s response to terrorist activities has been to step up patrols and increase the readiness of its police and paramilitary forces. Last week, China sent officers to train Xinjiang police in gun use and combat training. Police are also stepping up armed patrols in crowded public areas. But increased security measures can only go so far in addressing terrorist attacks, as China well knows. Despite a heavy security presence in Xinjiang, violent clashes have become routine in the more restive areas. The two recent attacks in Urumqi show that, even in areas where security is tightest, terrorists are able to find and exploit opportunities for violence.

In addition, duplicating the intense security presence at work in Xinjiang for the rest of China is not feasible. As Philip Potter, a University of Michigan professor and researcher under the U.S. Department of Defense’s Minerva Initiative, told the New York Times, there is a huge discrepancy in security forces in the western and eastern regions. China has fostered openness in eastern, coastal regions to encourage economic development while keeping a tight grip in Xinjiang and Tibet. This approach, Potter say, “incentivizes militants in the west to conduct attacks in the eastern population centers, where the targets are less secure and the rewards are higher.” Potter was speaking after the October 2013 attack in Tiananmen Square; the most recent attack in Kunming also lends credence to his theory.

Beijing recognizes that an increased police presences is only part of the equation. As a result, China has ramped up its crackdown on what might be termed “soft” terrorism—what China calls “inciting ethnic hatred”—including the dissemination of videos and other online material encouraging terrorism. Earlier this week, the Xinjiang Higher Court announced that 39 people had been sentenced to prison for such crimes. “We must eliminate from the root the soil where violent terrorist thoughts should grow by severely cracking down on the criminal activities of spreading terrorism audios and video,” the court said.

Yet human rights advocates say that China’s anti-terror crackdown is tantamount to a crackdown on Muslim practices in general, which alienates the Uyghur population. And this could have the unwanted effect of actually encouraging terrorism by increasing anger against the state.

Finally, China’s terrorism problem is an international issue, not simply a domestic one. Even the Uyghur terrorist groups (believed to be relatively small in number) have cross-border operations.  Just before the latest deadly attack in Urumqi, Xinhua released new details about the April 30 train station attack. Xinjiang authorities say that the attack was planned by an East Turkestan Islamic Movement (ETIM) member named Ismail Yusup. Yusup reportedly planned and coordinated the attack from outside China’s borders, then ordered operatives within Xinjiang to actually carry out the attack.

The details on last month’s attack reveal the complexity of China’s anti-terrorism challenge. Groups such as ETIM and the Turkestan Islamic Party (TIP), considered by some to be an offshoot or successor group to ETIM, are believed to operate mostly outside of China’s borders. According to Reuters, which held an interview with TIP leader Abdullah Mansour earlier this year, TIP is based in the mountainous border region between Pakistan and Afghanistan, an area where many terrorist groups have found shelter. Pakistan has so far proven unwilling or unable to entirely secure this area. As long as terrorists groups have a haven close to Xinjiang’s borders, it will be incredibly difficult for China to end terrorist attacks.

There have also been reports that groups like ETIM might seek to target Chinese businesses, embassies, or citizens located in third countries, which would allow terrorists to harm China without ever setting foot within the country. No amount of domestic security initiatives will be able to fully prevent such attacks; it will take a global intelligence-gathering and counter-terrorism initiative.

Unlike the U.S., China has shown no inclination to take matters into its own hands by conducting anti-terrorism operations (including drone strikes) on foreign soil. Such a move would be anathema to Beijing’s golden rule of non-interference in other country’s domestic affairs. Instead, China has been emphasizing joint anti-terrorism activities with its neighbors, from Afghanistan and Pakistan to Russia and Kazakhstan. But so far, Beijing lacks a separate strategy should these countries’ capabilities or determination to combat terrorism not meet China’s standards.

Preventing the next terrorist attack is at the top of Xi Jinping’s agenda—just as it was after the Kunming attack and the Urumqi railway station attack. To make progress, China will need to create and implement a new strategy rather than increasing its efforts in the same areas.

 

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Fri, 05/23/2014 - 22:14 | 4790399 prains
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when it's terrorist vs. oligarch.....who is the villain?

Fri, 05/23/2014 - 22:22 | 4790420 ZerOhead
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We won't know until we place both of them into a cage for a "deathmatch".

Whoever gets the least cheers before he dies is the villain OK?

Fri, 05/23/2014 - 22:34 | 4790444 Newsboy
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China's "New Pearl Harbor"?

With us or against us?

Fri, 05/23/2014 - 22:37 | 4790453 Tao 4 the Show
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News reporting U.S. is cutting aid to Thailand after the military coup. Interesting who is worthy of "aid" and who is not.

Sat, 05/24/2014 - 01:44 | 4790701 TBT or not TBT
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Islam is a problem in Thailand too. This administration has been very sympathetic to Islam and Islamists from day one.

Sat, 05/24/2014 - 03:16 | 4790776 BigJim
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 Islam is a problem in Thailand too. This administration has been very sympathetic to Islam and Islamists from day one.

As any relative of a droned wedding will eagerly attest, I'm sure.

Hey, Chinaaaaa... you can have peace and freedom... or you can have empire; you can't have both.

Sat, 05/24/2014 - 09:24 | 4791046 LawsofPhysics
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< Meh > The city-dwellers in China have loved doing the oligarchs bidding and the state (oligarchs) have never had a problem killing their own people.  History is very clear on all this.

 

same as it ever was.

Sat, 05/24/2014 - 09:46 | 4791065 john39
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OT: Corzine et al, take note... this is the punishment that suits your crimes:

http://rt.com/news/line/2014-05-24/#62368

"Iran hangs businessman over $2.6 bn banking scam"
Sat, 05/24/2014 - 13:56 | 4791421 svayambhu108
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China should know better that there is history in the European thought of better going to war than repaying debts.

Sat, 05/24/2014 - 05:11 | 4790878 lakecity55
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Don't worry, they will be buying huge numbers of USTs next week.

Sat, 05/24/2014 - 11:28 | 4791224 Matt
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"News reporting U.S. is cutting aid to Thailand after the military coup. "

Do you mean Egypt? Otherwise, US law requires aid to be cut after a military coup.

Sat, 05/24/2014 - 12:51 | 4791356 TBT or not TBT
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US "law", in quotation marks. Congress lets the executive branch bureaucracy enforce selectively and make up shit as they go along. Take Obamacare, please. Or campaign finance enforcement. Dinesh D'Sousa will do prison time and be a felon for life for a 15 grand infraction. Bundlers like Corzine? Luxuries for life.

Sat, 05/24/2014 - 01:33 | 4790694 SAT 800
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Gee, I don't know. does it depend on whether or not the "terrorist" is a "freedom fighter" ?

Fri, 05/23/2014 - 22:15 | 4790401 besnook
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all the chinese have to do is log in to exchanges between the local cia contact and the state department cia rep and they have the answer to their terrorist threat.

Fri, 05/23/2014 - 22:18 | 4790407 DeadFred
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Looks like Victoria Nuland has been sent to Western China.

Sat, 05/24/2014 - 00:09 | 4790410 prains
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what lies between western china and eastern ukraine?

<---it was a question you fucking morons

Sat, 05/24/2014 - 01:32 | 4790693 SAT 800
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Significant oil fields in very unstable mini-countries.

Sat, 05/24/2014 - 01:39 | 4790697 SAT 800
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Significant oil fields in very unstable mini-countries. I don't why anyone downticked you; it seems like an intelligent question.

Sat, 05/24/2014 - 12:52 | 4791362 TBT or not TBT
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Quoting Borat, I think the answer is "assholes".

Sat, 05/24/2014 - 12:41 | 4791334 Balanced Integer
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You questioned the wonderful state of Russia. Zhers do not take kindly to questioning the wonderful state of Russia, led as it is by the wonderful, Glorious Majesty Putin I.

ZHers rally for freedom, but celebrate certain tyrants. as long as the tyrants are proving an irritant to American tyrants and their interests. It's not hard to understand on one hand...on the other hand, shouldn't tyranny be reviled wherever it rears its head?

Sat, 05/24/2014 - 01:59 | 4790718 SAT 800
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Seems doubtful as China is still fulfilling the role allocated to it when the Bilderburgers promised an unknown governor of Arkansas the Presidency if he agreed to sell his country down the toilet. In simple English, they're part of the program to make sure you don't earn a decent wage working in America. Not exactly 'our" friends; but the friends of our owners.

Sat, 05/24/2014 - 04:58 | 4790870 Seer
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Party Pussy.

Nixon opened up trade relations with China: not to mention completing the destruction of the USD (which has been but a walking-dead since).

Sat, 05/24/2014 - 06:43 | 4790945 Headbanger
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Nixon also fucked us by pushing fast nuclear technology (helped Kalifonia) instead of thorium liquid salt reactors which would have averted Three Mile Island and Fukishima while producing no plutonium for weapons.

Nixon was the one alright!

Sat, 05/24/2014 - 04:55 | 4790867 Seer
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No shit.  I jumped into this article with that very thing in mind.  That this isn't the first thought by people is rather disturbing, as "divide and conquer" is as old as...

Better believe that the CIA is working overtime.

Fri, 05/23/2014 - 22:20 | 4790413 Dr. Engali
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"Unlike the U.S., China has shown no inclination to take matters into its own hands by conducting anti-terrorism operations (including drone strikes) on foreign soil. "

The war mongerers at the diplomat make it sound like this is a bad thing.

Fri, 05/23/2014 - 22:24 | 4790430 prains
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LOL your right Doc, but me thinks if the chinese roll out their drones too soon they'll be suspiciously "similar" in design and construct to "somebody" elses intellectual property, much like their entire economy.....

Fri, 05/23/2014 - 22:32 | 4790439 Dr. Engali
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That is very true. The difference being, much like the U.S and the Sherman tank during WWII, the Chinese will be able to produce the drone clones en masse.

Fri, 05/23/2014 - 22:41 | 4790463 prains
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....but how long will they fly on 4 knock off AA batteries ??

Fri, 05/23/2014 - 23:13 | 4790515 LetThemEatRand
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They sell us the knock offs.  The real shit they keep for themselves.

Sat, 05/24/2014 - 00:10 | 4790564 prains
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Wee Fuk Yu

<--tree frogs like to suck their own balls

Sat, 05/24/2014 - 05:09 | 4790876 lakecity55
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"Haha, let me interest you in PRC Drone!"

"Uhhh,"

"PRC Drone come with 8-track and GPS. Also CB Radio."

"It looks like the US Drone."

"Mere coincidence."

Sat, 05/24/2014 - 01:30 | 4790688 SAT 800
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very true; many examples are known; but doesn't actually apply to drones.

Sat, 05/24/2014 - 06:24 | 4790923 negative rates
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Are they that smart?

Sat, 05/24/2014 - 01:28 | 4790687 SAT 800
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most drones use miniture turbojets for primary propulsion; which were at one time regarded as an impossible technology. The Chinese have now got this down pretty well, however; due to R&D in building small turbos for RC Model Airplanes for the rich American Hobbyist. The primary electrical load for the sensors and nav. electronics is provided by an alternator on the turboshaft. Even the batteries from your cordless electric drill would do fine; as they don't have much to do.

Fri, 05/23/2014 - 22:38 | 4790454 ZerOhead
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Yup... they criticise them now for not taking a more aggressive stance against "terrorists" ( AKA... Whoever is sitting on whatever it is we want)  But they would squeel like stuck pigs if China actually did.

BTW... the last thing I want to see is China emulate past empirical behaviour... be it Japanese, British or American.

Fri, 05/23/2014 - 22:40 | 4790458 Dr. Engali
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My take is they want China to join the U.S. in what they perceive is world wide terrorism, which in their mind is anybody who disagrees with them. See you in FEMA camp six if I'm not put down by a Chinese made drone first.

Fri, 05/23/2014 - 22:51 | 4790479 ZerOhead
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Big chunks of the planet are still in play including Africa where China has a presence. I doubt seriously they want to invite China to learn the trade secrets of financing some terrorists so you can take someone else's stuff.

I think this was just self-rightous bullshitspeak at it's best.

And call this a hunch but I doubt they are going to let you pick your FEMA camp.

Sat, 05/24/2014 - 03:24 | 4790782 BigJim
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Doc probably assumed they'll send him to the nearest one; but I doubt they'd do that, it would be too comfortable and he might know some of the personnel or locale.

No, if you live in a warm state, they'll send you to an Alaskan Gulag; if you live in Alaska, it's off to Death Valley Happy Camp for you!

Guard, smiling: Yes, yes, leave ALL your belongings there, by the side of the cattle car; of course you'll get your stuff back when you get to your... er... final... destination! What do you think this is?? Nazzzi Germany?? *chortles*

Sat, 05/24/2014 - 05:06 | 4790875 lakecity55
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Commissar Bath House: "I sentence you to SIberia!"
patriot: "But I live here in Siberia."
CBH: "Uh, err, give me your coat, then."

Sat, 05/24/2014 - 09:44 | 4791063 john39
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as far as the talmudic NWO types are concerned, you can never hate islam or islamic people enough...  the more countries that participate in operation kill brown muslims, the better...

Sat, 05/24/2014 - 10:38 | 4791150 Iocosus
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They are waging overt war on Islam while quietly attempting to destroy Christianity through societal manipulation.

Sat, 05/24/2014 - 11:09 | 4791193 john39
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Agreed.  All decency must be wiped away if the masses are to accept the luciferian agenda.

Sat, 05/24/2014 - 11:24 | 4791212 Iocosus
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Their latest tactic is the LGBT Movement. Next will be lowering the age of consent and the legalization of bestiality.

Sat, 05/24/2014 - 05:04 | 4790874 lakecity55
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We need to apply to one of those Ghost Cities in the PRC and use it as a FEMA camp. They look nice from the air.

Sat, 05/24/2014 - 01:37 | 4790696 SAT 800
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Do you mean to say "Imperial behaviour" ? As in the machinations or oppressions carried out by an empire ?

Sat, 05/24/2014 - 14:47 | 4791561 ZerOhead
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Indeed... brain short circuit. Age related.

Fri, 05/23/2014 - 22:42 | 4790464 IndianaJohn
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Who can name a place where "the religion of piece" is at peace with themselves or their neighbors?

Fri, 05/23/2014 - 22:54 | 4790484 ZerOhead
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What is this "Religion of Peace" of which you speak?...

Bhuddism?

Sat, 05/24/2014 - 01:22 | 4790682 SAT 800
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Oak Park, Illinois ? The middle class ones in the US seem stupefied enough.

Sat, 05/24/2014 - 03:29 | 4790787 BigJim
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 Who can name a place where "the religion of piece" is at peace with themselves or their neighbors?

You mean the Talmudists? Damn good question! Certainly not Israel.

The Buddhists.. well.. not Sri Lanka. And where else do they have a significant political presence and their tax farms are threatened by separatists? Oh yeah - Myanmar! Not there, either.

The Muslims? Quite a few places before we started blowing up their weddings or keeping their despots in clover.

The Christians? Lulz.

Fri, 05/23/2014 - 22:44 | 4790473 SDRII
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Just More drivel. A little context might helps...

How about starting with who is funding the Eurasia insurgents. Oh wait....Then roll over to the expansion of the China Turkmen pipelines. Follow it up with the US ejection from Manas and the subsequent Russian deployments. What about those ongoing strange border incidents along the china frontier...

Deputy Secretary Burns Travel to Uzbekistan and Kazakhstan State.gov

The same Burns who was the back channel in Oman/iran and was just in Libya warning of intervention days before the rogue general started his offensive.

explore the Tienanmen attacks identical to the latest car incident. Or that uyghur congress in Japan that resulted in China canceling out of multilateral as a result of Japan hosting the congress Japan Calls China PBOC Chief Skipping IMF Meeting ‘Regrettable’ BBG
Driver plows into crowd at Beijing's Tienanmen Square LAtimes Russia to Deploy More Su-25 Combat Planes at Kyrgyz Airbase Kazakh Border Guard Recants Murder Confession

RFERL

Kazakhstan plane crash kills 27 people including leading border guards Telegraph Chinese Officials Help To ID Gunmen Killed By Kyrgyz Border Guards RFERL China airs ‘frustration’ after US report challenges Beijing’s terror attack findings  SCMP
Fri, 05/23/2014 - 23:02 | 4790502 ZerOhead
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Damn.

Where there's Burns there's fires...

Sat, 05/24/2014 - 03:30 | 4790792 BigJim
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All coincidence, I'm sure.

Sat, 05/24/2014 - 05:03 | 4790873 Seer
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All "God's work!"

Fri, 05/23/2014 - 23:01 | 4790488 TNTARG
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What a moment for terrorist attacks in China...

Let's try to find out more...

Going back to the past...

Beijing paper links Xinjiang separatists to bin Laden

http://www.radicalparty.org/en/content/beijing-paper-links-xinjiang-separatists-bin-laden

"During the last six months, Bin Laden has been sighted several times in the mountains and open ranges of the Northwest [Pakistan]. American intelligence agents in the region are of the opinion that the Saudi millionaire, accompanied by an escort of 50 guerrilla mujaheddin, moved East toward Kashmir, and from there crossed into China."Gordon Thomas, 10/13/04

"There are places in Afghanistan and Pakistan that border with China. That is one area where no one is really looking. It is a small strip of land between Tajikistan and Pakistan and the land terrain is such that it is difficult to find any one. The Wakhan Corridor from Afghanistan to China is an ideal place for Osama Bin Laden to hide within Chinese territory."—India Daily, 01/17/05

CHINESE AMMUNITION FOUND IN AGHANISTAN CAVES—"Pentagon officials aboard the plane taking Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld to Brussels revealed [that] large quantities of Chinese-manufactured ammunition were discovered in the Tora Bora cave hideouts of Osama bin Laden."worldnetdaily

http://www.danmahony.com/binladen1.htm

(Reuters) - Entrenched in secret mountain bases on Pakistan's border with Afghanistan, Uighur fighters are gearing up for retribution against China to avenge the deaths of comrades in Beijing's crackdown on a separatist movement, their leader told Reuters.

http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/03/14/us-pakistan-uighurs-idUSBREA2D0PF20140314

"their leader told Reuters". So Reuters, on march 14, was in the secret mountain bases on Pakistan's border with Afghanistan, where Uighur fighters told them they were going to set up some "retribution" against China...

Mha.

If there's smoke...

 

 

Fri, 05/23/2014 - 23:02 | 4790500 ZerOhead
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Sat, 05/24/2014 - 01:48 | 4790706 SAT 800
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It always bothers me that no one makes a serious effort to find out where the financing comes from; and publicizes it !!  The presence of Chinese Ammunition doesn't mean anything; it's all over the world. What we need to know is if Saudi Arabia and Iran are paying for the Chinese Ammunition; (hint; they don't give it away, and the Uiguars (sp.?) are stone broke. When the Pakistan Military took back the mountain valley province of Swat from the "pakistan taliban"; they discovered chests of gold coins and a paper trail leading back to Saudi Arabia; as well as satellite phones and laptops; in the caves used by the "sincere, local, religous, poor, rebel, talliban"; LOL.  You always need to find out who's bankrolling the things that go bang; because they;re not free.

Sat, 05/24/2014 - 03:33 | 4790796 BigJim
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I very much doubt the Iranians are helping Uigher separatists; China is one of the few friends they have... and on the UNSC to boot.

Sat, 05/24/2014 - 05:14 | 4790880 Seer
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Pentagon officials aboard the plane taking Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld to Brussels revealed

And we KNOW that we can trust "Pentagon officials!"

Fri, 05/23/2014 - 22:59 | 4790492 NoWayJose
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The Germans couldn't do it in WWII, the British haven't been able to do it in Northern Ireland, the US couldn't do it in Iraq or Afghanistan, etc, etc. whether you call them terrorists, or The Resistance, Partisans, or freedom fighters - there really isn't any way to stop them if they are determined and if they are willing to risk capture or death. China has no solution either.

Fri, 05/23/2014 - 23:54 | 4790575 August
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If a state can throw enough resorces at a "guerilla" movement, they certainly can be defeated.

The Nazis (aided by the Croat state) came very close to eliminating the Yugoslav partisans, until desperation on their Eastern Front demanded a re-direction of resources. The British dealt with the Malaysian communists, the Russians eliminated Galician resitance post WWII (with a considerable legacy of Russophobia), and Chechnya is pretty quiet these days. 

Similarly, the DC government will seek to suppress the unorganized militia in Fly-over Country, soon enough.

Sat, 05/24/2014 - 03:37 | 4790804 BigJim
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It's true; if resistance movements were insuperable, there would never have been so many empires throughout history.

If you kill enough of the fighting-age menfolk, there's just not enough fighters left to effectively organise and resist. This is why empires are so violent when they're not getting their way; sadly, it often works.

Sat, 05/24/2014 - 05:23 | 4790884 Seer
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"If a state can throw enough resorces at a "guerilla" movement, they certainly can be defeated."

That's what THEY want you to believe.  It's a LONG game...

"You can kill a man, but you cannot kill an idea." - Medgar Evers

"Similarly, the DC government will seek to suppress the unorganized militia in Fly-over Country, soon enough."

Rural areas are ALWAYS places where "opposition" hide and control.  The logistics of covering large areas and waging wars against such "opposition" ALWAYS become a trap for TPTB.

Sat, 05/24/2014 - 10:18 | 4791111 El Vaquero
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That does not mean that a large nation-state cannot defeat a large guerrilla force, as nothing is absolute.  But, if you want to beat it by simply throwing resources at it, well, that means that the nation-state is acting in a manner consistent with the losing end of asymmetric warfare.  Or it is just trying to kill EVERYBODY, which can work if it actually has the means to do so.

Fri, 05/23/2014 - 23:01 | 4790496 ZerOhead
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Fri, 05/23/2014 - 23:22 | 4790532 DIgnified
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China moves into Mali; Terrorist attacks expected to continue in Mail

China sets up a currency center in Kenya; Mall attack with hostages

China investing in Nigerian rail system; Boko Haram kidnapping

And just for good measure:

"South Sudan investment totaling $8B from China",  "TPTB are losing their grip in Libya" and "in Egypt."  So naturally 'this' will continue.

 

 

Sat, 05/24/2014 - 03:38 | 4790805 BigJim
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Some good dot-connecting there

Sat, 05/24/2014 - 00:14 | 4790607 q99x2
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JP Morgue is likely behind it.

Sat, 05/24/2014 - 00:31 | 4790620 junction
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China has other problems, such as massive PM2.5 air pollution from using soft coal to power many of its power plants, plants without efficients scrubbers.  PM2.5 pollutants are particles that are smaller than 2.5 microns in diameter and more dangerous to health than other particulate matter.

Sat, 05/24/2014 - 01:53 | 4790711 SAT 800
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But fortunately, all the Co2 produced from the coal combustion will magically disappear just as soon as Obama succeeds in taxing the American fuel using economy to death.

Sat, 05/24/2014 - 03:39 | 4790807 BigJim
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You must admit it's hard to buy Chinese imports once you've been reduced to living under a bridge.

Sat, 05/24/2014 - 04:56 | 4790868 lakecity55
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Hey, no worries! The Queen outlawed coal in the USSA, so it will balance out. The Celestials will have dirty air and electricity, the USSA will have clean air and NO electricity!

Forward, Soviet!

Sat, 05/24/2014 - 00:58 | 4790654 Sticky Wicket
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They hate them for their freedoms.

Sat, 05/24/2014 - 01:27 | 4790684 q99x2
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Meateator shower in an hour. Watch your bumbacoin.

Sat, 05/24/2014 - 02:18 | 4790731 news printer
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Why China is stockpiling huge amounts of oil at a record pace

The International Energy Agency (IEA) said in its latest monthly report that China imported 6.81m barrels per day (bpd) in April, an all-time high. This is raising eyebrows since China’s economy has been slowing for months, with slump conditions in the steel industry and a sharp downturn in new construction.

China has stocks to cover 46 days of imports compared with 209 for the U.S., based on estimates from last year.

http://business.financialpost.com/2014/05/21/why-china-is-stockpiling-huge-amounts-of-oil-at-a-record-pace/

 

Sat, 05/24/2014 - 18:14 | 4791922 goldhedge
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"China has stocks to cover 46 days of imports compared with 209 for the U.S., based on estimates from last year."

 

Hardly catching up with the US of A.

 

Non-story.

 

Sat, 05/24/2014 - 03:19 | 4790778 Paracelsus
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I think it was in the late '70's the Gulf oil company was paying royalties to the marxist gov't of Angola (MPLA) for protection of their off-shore oil platforms (Cabinda).The CIA sponsored resistance (Savimbi?) was sending speedboat towards the platforms and firing RPG's to set them afire.

Somedays you just can't make this shit up....

Sat, 05/24/2014 - 05:48 | 4790902 Seer
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Hobgobblins... TPTB have to keep us off-guard- they tell us who are enemies are, they tell us who/what to root for- dance motherfuckers...

Sat, 05/24/2014 - 05:09 | 4790877 Reptil
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Please see this:
www.youtube.com/watch?v=OygG10gaHTg
And read this:
www.takeoverworld.info/Grand_Chessboard.pdf

Sat, 05/24/2014 - 05:59 | 4790909 Seer
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Up-arrow for any reference to The Grand Chessboard, as it's very important to understand the primary currents on which US/west foreign policy has rested.  While briefly poking through this mound of info, ran across this Edward Griffen piece -http://www.silverbearcafe.com/private/deception.html- which, while reading, I had to scratch my head and ask him how he managed to shove the square peg through the round hole:

Collectivists are often critics of religious and family values, because collectivism demands unquestioning obedience to the state. Since loyalty to family or religious codes often conflict with the concept of group supremacy, they cannot be tolerated in a collectivist system.

Religions don't have hierarchical, collectivist structures demanding obedience?  WTF?  I get what he's trying to do, but when logic goes off the rails I am compelled to point it out...

Sat, 05/24/2014 - 06:45 | 4790941 Reptil
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perhaps he has personal ethics (a moral code based on a set of values) confused with the word "religion" which is, in my opinion as (probably) yours, just another collectivist institution that took on an appearance of upholding these values.

Sat, 05/24/2014 - 09:14 | 4791034 BigJim
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I suppose this generally reflects Mises' comment that the worst kind of government to a socialist is a socialist government that he doesn't have any friends running.

Most religions are ancient and hence have their hierarchies firmly in place. So if you're trying to impose a new, secular collectivism, you and the established religion are both trying to eat the same lunch.

Sat, 05/24/2014 - 12:33 | 4791309 shovelhead
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Your observation illustrates his point.

Loyalty to a religious hierarchy, temporal or otherwise, interferes with the State desire to have a monopoly on that obedience. Inevitably there will be conflict. His argument is not what religion is or is not, rather that it presents a challenge to dominance.

His logic is sound.

Sat, 05/24/2014 - 06:41 | 4790933 AdvancingTime
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I recently found myself thinking about the decline or collapse of great empires and realized that it is often hard to predict when or how their demise will occur. One sign of the end is a massive growth in crony capitalism and corruption. Many analogies can be taken from this idea, the empire need not be great and timing is always hard to correctly gauge.

The signs of decline may be everywhere but that does not guarantee the end is near. As the foundation crumbles away it is not uncommon for those in power to extend their rule by many tricks and changing the rules in order to gain a new lease on life. More on the subject of how empires collapse in the article below.

http://brucewilds.blogspot.com/2014/05/how-empires-collapse.html

While not written directly about China it does apply.

Sat, 05/24/2014 - 08:48 | 4791010 buzzsaw99
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as long as five hundred million peasant-terrorists don't storm bejing all at once everything will be fine in china. fine china, funny.

Sat, 05/24/2014 - 12:08 | 4791272 Duc888
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"Groups such as ETIM and the Turkestan Islamic Party (TIP), considered by some to be an offshoot or successor group to ETIM, are believed to operate mostly outside of China’s borders. According to Reuters, which held an interview with TIP leader Abdullah Mansour earlier this year, TIP is based in the mountainous border region between Pakistan and Afghanistan, an area where many terrorist groups have found shelter.

 

So who is funding them?

Sat, 05/24/2014 - 13:12 | 4791273 earleflorida
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Let's fill in the gaps... shall we?

When the Qing Dynasty collapsed in 1911-12 it was a generation in the making and China was on a course of anarchy, chaos, and decadence. (ref:     http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chinese_Civil_War    ) A full blown civil war was about to take place between the KMT (Nationalist-Kuomintang/ Chinag Kai-shek) and CCP (Communist/ Mao Zedong). Throughout the several civil-wars from early 1920's to 1949 the two parties could never reconciliate their ideologies.

The KMT was corrupted to the core-- cared nothing for the lowly peasant (~80% pop.). It was a dysfunctional government made even more corrupt by the Japanese in Manchuria/ Manchukuo, and their subsequent invasion beginning in 1937-45. Ironically the civil war in china in the latter years were put on hiatus in order to defeat the Japanese.

The USSR/ Stalin helped both sides?-- always playing one against the other during WW2... but was ultimately fighting for the communist and Mao at wars end. The USA and Gen.Marshall were helping Chinag's Nat'l's with both financial and logistic (food/clothing/etc.?) advisors for the KMT. Unfortunately for the USA it was like pouring liquid-gold down a rat-hole with no bottom-stop regarding malfeasance.(ref:  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CC_Clique    ) Note: The cadres of Mao's vast peasant movement throughout was a well defined-living?constitution... promulgating the people's will, and emphasising expropriation from the puppet gov't of the Kuomintang, and the latter Japanese collaborator's/traitors.

Moving along quickly, so as not to bore anyone? It was in the 1980's that todays Taliban were trained in Uighurs' capital region, as what was known then to be called the Mujahideen.

Xinjiang (*Uighurs), China and the East Turkestan Movement (ETIM) ref:    http://www.cfr.org/china/east-turkestan-islamic-movement-etim/p9179    by Beina Yu *[12/13/13]          http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Cyclone   http://globalresearchreport.com/2013/12/21/al-qaeda-and-the-war-on-terrorism/#sthash.AhbjQAIR.bvFaTSNX.dpbs   (al-Qaeda and the War on Terrorism)     http://books.google.co.il/books?id=GXj4a3gss8wC&pg/=PA157&redir_esc=y#v=onepage&q&f=true   'A Land of Borderlands [8 borders?]'  c.2004; S. Frederick Starr, editor

'Muslim Roots and the Ili {(late 20thc.)( & Chinese Tatars)} Rebellion'   ref:      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ili_Rebellion     http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uyghur_people       http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chinese_Tatars    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Masud_Sabri   http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Burhan_Shahidi   http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wu_Zhongxin   http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mas%CA%BF%C5%ABd_%E1%B9%A2abr%C4%AB     [Masud Sabri]

Contemporary Summary?:    China did help train the Mujahideen {todays Taliban} during the 80's regarding the Afghan/USSR War-- while China was a passive player? they sold arms to the Mujahideen via the CIA and all at the (emphasis added) passionate request from those nasty Pakistani's... whom in a decade would have built a nuclear bomb under our noses with our money and AQ Khan's diabolical genius! Remember that the Chinese and USSR had many falling-outs regarding border incidents [incidents: the favorite word used by chinese describing minor wars]. Important: The Mujahideen were first trained on Pakistan soil, and as previous stated, yet contrary to popular belief... the USSR and China were both communist but closet enemies since the Sino-Soviet split in the 60's. As I've stated, Mao figured out that the Russians were playing him especially after Stalin's death and the changes in the USSR regarding the alignment of a revisionist?epithany via the Maoist and Marxist-Leninist camp, which btw created an irrevocable chasm of alienation piled high on a faux-altruistic naivete?distrust! Ironically, after the Vietnam War, China has become a soften'd-ally within mother USSA containment policy?!?

But those days (Note: Russia and China were having border disputes long before communism became a word) are passe!

Yesteryear as today the Soviets {Russians} were ambivalent and somewhat ambiguous who followed a different philosophy 'in-the-long-run', of communism regarding the Chinese PRC... but, as time has it,  pragmatism wins out, and coalesce the two Eurasian`stalwarts in a binding symbioses engagment of bliss and fraternal matrimony{???}, both newly-wed'd to a basic industrial-base and the PRC Party /Russian Party with a emphasis on the proliteriat/ peasant than ever before.

Alas-- 'True Democracy', with a Socialist 'ism', squeezy twist of super`dup?er glue?!?

Ps. Brzezinski and Obama are behind this shitpile that stinks of USSA fail'd foreign-policy!
Ps2. Bandar{Bush!!!} must be rounded-up?, along with Al-Zawahiri and shown swift!!!global`Justice!

jmo

thankyou Tyler  

Sat, 05/24/2014 - 13:18 | 4791413 shovelhead
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Real-politic national interests always trump some half baked 'International Brotherhood of the Proletariat' twaddle.

I guess it applies as well to that 'Democracy' we spread around so profusely in Central and Latin America when faced with those terroristy Socialist insurgents.

Not that I don't appreciate your Wiki love fest but I think an apt summary is:

Same shit, different times and places. Patriotic ideologies are a convenient cover for empire. They always seem to have a certain amount of..er...flexibility.

Soft or hard power control of resources and populations is simply a matter of geography.

 

Sat, 05/24/2014 - 22:00 | 4792388 earleflorida
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i could quote a dozen books, but obviously the written word isn't your forte. wikipedia is just fine for me. the  term, 'guerrilla warfare' was perfected by mao and used first in the fight against the kmt in the nw region. the current chinese anti-terrorist forces are more than suited to cleanse the area. afterall, the communist regime has had more than a century to perfect it.

btw,... your political hygiene of anathema smells of a troll for the government

ps. your not to bright there mr. shovelhead

 

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