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Japan Begins Purposely Dumping 100s Of Tons Of Radioactive Water From Fukushima Into The Pacific

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Submitted by Michael Snyder of The Economic Collapse blog,

How do you get rid of hundreds of tons of highly radioactive water?  You dump it into the Pacific Ocean of course!  In Japan, the  Tokyo Electric Power Co. has made the “painful decision” to begin purposely dumping massive amounts of radioactive water currently being stored at the destroyed Fukushima nuclear facility directly into the Pacific.  This is being done even though water radiation levels near Fukushima spiked to a brand new all-time record high just a few days ago.  The radioactive material that is being released will enter our food chain and will potentially stay with us for decades to come.  Fukushima is an environmental nightmare that never seems to end, but the mainstream media in the United States decided to pretty much stop talking about it long ago.  So don’t expect the big news networks to make a big deal out of the fact that Japan is choosing to use the Pacific Ocean as a toilet for their nuclear waste.  But even though they aren’t talking about it, that doesn’t mean that radioactive material from Fukushima is not seriously affecting the health of millions of people all over the planet.

According to the Japan Times, Tepco released 560 tons of radioactive water into the Pacific on Wednesday, and Tepco says that for the foreseeable future we should expect another 100 tons of radioactive water to be released into the ocean every single day…

Tokyo Electric Power Co. began dumping groundwater from the Fukushima No. 1 nuclear plant into the Pacific on Wednesday, in a bid to manage the huge amounts of radioactive water that have built up at the complex.

 

The utility, which says the water discharged is within legal radiation safety limits, has been fighting a daily battle against contaminated water since Fukushima No. 1 was decimated by the earthquake and tsunami of March 2011.

 

Tepco said 560 tons of groundwater captured and stored before it entered reactor building basements was to be released Wednesday, using a bypass system that funnels it toward the ocean after checking for radiation levels.

 

Using the bypass, Tepco hopes to divert an average of 100 tons of untainted groundwater a day into the ocean.

Tepco is assuring us that the radioactive water that is being released is within “legal radiation safety limits”.

But this is the same company that could not tell us why radiation levels in water near Fukushima reached a new all-time high just a few days ago…

Radiation has spiked to all-time highs at five monitoring points in waters adjacent to the crippled Fukushima No. 1 power station, plant operator Tokyo Electric Power Co. said Friday.

 

The measurements follow similar highs detected in groundwater at the plant. Officials of Tepco, as the utility is known, said the cause of the seawater spike is unknown.

Three of the monitoring sites are inside the wrecked plant’s adjacent port, which ships once used to supply it.

 

At one sampling point in the port, between the water intakes for the No. 2 and No. 3 reactors, 1,900 becquerels per liter of tritium was detected Monday, up from a previous high of 1,400 becquerels measured on April 14, Tepco said.

 

Nearby, also within the port, tritium levels were found to have spiked to 1,400 becquerels, from a previous high of 1,200 becquerels.

So do you trust Tepco?

I certainly do not.

And this is not just a Japanese issue.  Radioactive material from Fukushima has literally been found all over the planet.  For example, a nuclear fuel fragment from Fukushima has been found as far away as Norway.

Once this radioactive material gets into the ocean and into our food chain, there is no telling where it may end up.

If the mainstream media really did care about “the environment”, they would be talking about this.  But instead, there seems to be a conspiracy of silence.  Just consider the comments that Martin Fackler of the New York Times made during one recent interview…

Yeah… it’s so hard in Japan to talk about the radiation issue, like how bad is it really… There is a sense that if you even talk about these issues, you’re hurting the poor people of Fuksuhima. Therefore, we shouldn’t talk about it. That’s just not right… The folks who don’t want us to talk about it are the government, because they don’t want to pay compensation… I feel like there is a lot going on in Fukushima that just doesn’t get talked about in the local media, not necessarily for government cover-up sort of issues, but self restraint or self censorship. Even papers that are pretty strong in their reporting on Tepco in some ways, like the Tokyo Shimbun, won’t talk about these issues because they’re afraid that somehow its unpatriotic to talk about radiation. There’s a lot of questions and issues that are not being talked about, and I think they should be talked and if there is damage to the people of Fukushima that’s the responsibility of Tepco…

And the U.S. media certainly doesn’t seem to want to talk about how radiation from Fukushima could be affecting the west coast of our country.

But the evidence continues to mount that something very unusual is happening.

Just consider what is happening to young sea lions along the coast of California

Sea lions are once again struggling to survive and are washing ashore, many of them pups dehydrated, malnourished and on the brink of death.

 

The year started off quieter than last year, and the Pacific Marine Mammal Center’s director of development, Melissa Sciacca, thought they were in the clear – until about a month ago, when the calls started coming in nonstop. The center, in Laguna Beach, is near capacity, with about 100 sea lions being treated so they can be returned to the wild once they are strong enough.

 

“We thought it was going to be a nice calm year; in the last month it’s just spiked,” she said. “The rescues just keep coming in at a steady pace.”

And as I wrote about just the other day, something is causing millions of fish to die in mass death events all over the globe right now.

Could Fukushima be a contributing factor?

A lot of people out there are attempting to downplay the impact that the Fukushima nuclear disaster has had on the Pacific Ocean.

I believe that this is a huge mistake.

Nuclear radiation causes cancer.

Nuclear radiation kills.

The total amount of nuclear material released from Fukushima just continues to increase and slowly accumulate in our food chain.  When these nuclear particles get into you, they can literally start cooking you from the inside out.  In a previous article, I included a quote from an opinion piece by Helen Caldicott that was published in the Guardian….

Internal radiation, on the other hand, emanates from radioactive elements which enter the body by inhalation, ingestion, or skin absorption. Hazardous radionuclides such as iodine-131, caesium 137, and other isotopes currently being released in the sea and air around Fukushima bio-concentrate at each step of various food chains (for example into algae, crustaceans, small fish, bigger fish, then humans; or soil, grass, cow’s meat and milk, then humans). After they enter the body, these elements – called internal emitters – migrate to specific organs such as the thyroid, liver, bone, and brain, where they continuously irradiate small volumes of cells with high doses of alpha, beta and/or gamma radiation, and over many years, can induce uncontrolled cell replication – that is, cancer. Further, many of the nuclides remain radioactive in the environment for generations, and ultimately will cause increased incidences of cancer and genetic diseases over time.

Doesn’t that sound lovely?

And it has been documented that radioactive material from Fukushima has been getting into the seafood being sold in North America.

For example, back in 2012 the Vancouver Sun reported that cesium-137 was being discovered in a very high percentage of the fish that Japan was selling to Canada…

• 73 percent of the mackerel

• 91 percent of the halibut

• 92 percent of the sardines

• 93 percent of the tuna and eel

• 94 percent of the cod and anchovies

• 100 percent of the carp, seaweed, shark and monkfish

So why was radiation testing for seafood subsequently shut down in Canada?

Since that time, as I detailed in one of my previous articles, a high school student up in Canada tested seafood bought at local grocery stores for radioactive contamination.  What she found was absolutely stunning…

A Canadian high school student named Bronwyn Delacruz never imagined that her school science project would make headlines all over the world.  But that is precisely what has happened.  Using a $600 Geiger counter purchased by her father, Delacruz measured seafood bought at local grocery stores for radioactive contamination.  What she discovered was absolutely stunning.  Much of the seafood, particularly the products that were made in China, tested very high for radiation.  So is this being caused by nuclear radiation from Fukushima?  Is the seafood that we are eating going to give us cancer and other diseases?

Why aren’t we being warned about this?

Earlier this year, a fish that was caught just off the coast of the Fukushima prefecture was discovered to have 124 times the safe level of radioactive cesium.

But virtually nobody in the mainstream media considers this to be important enough to talk about.

A lot of people seem to think that the Fukushima nuclear disaster is old news.  But in many ways the biggest problems for North America may just be beginning.  For example, according to scientists at the University of South Wales, the main radioactive plume of water from Fukushima has finally crossed the Pacific Ocean and is going to hit our shores at some point during 2014…

The first radioactive ocean plume released by the Fukushima nuclear power plant disaster will finally be reaching the shores of the United States some time in 2014, according to a new study from the University of New South Wales — a full three or so years after the date of the disaster.

The following graphics come directly from that study…

Fukushima Radiation - University Of New South Wales

So as the main plume of nuclear radiation reaches our shores, what will that do to our wildlife, our fishing industry and our beaches?

And what kind of danger does this radioactive water pose to those living along the west coast?

These are very important questions, but unfortunately those in power and those working for the mainstream media don’t really want to talk about these things.

 

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Fri, 05/23/2014 - 21:39 | 4790293 DoChenRollingBearing
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Mmm, N Pacific tuna...

You can tune a piano, but you can't tune a fish.

 

EDIT:

N American night owls should consider staying up late to watch the newly discovered meteor shower, look north from 1:00 AM - 4:00 AM (US ET). 

Info:

http://m.accuweather.com/en/weather-news/viewable-for-the-first-time-ne/27352068

Fri, 05/23/2014 - 21:50 | 4790330 Tao 4 the Show
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Not sure that has any bearing on the problem, DoChen.

In less than 300 years, the cesium and strontium will be essentially all decayed. From what I have read, the ocean is essentially at saturation level for uranium (from granite erosion). So, if the plutonium manages to sequester somehow, the problem should go away by itself in a few hundred years.

Fri, 05/23/2014 - 21:56 | 4790343 logicalman
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Get back to us when you know what you are talking about.

Anyone reading this won't see a third of that time span and the time they will see will be the worst part.

As for Pu, a microgram internally is pretty much a death sentence.

There's no way to make nukes look benign.

Fri, 05/23/2014 - 22:09 | 4790391 Tao 4 the Show
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It was sarc, though the facts are correct. Eight half lives is a typical time used to estimate near complete decay. Obviously, this is a problem for decades to come.

Fri, 05/23/2014 - 22:44 | 4790469 mvsjcl
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They've been dumping water all along. But the facade of storage can no longer be maintained, thus the public proclamation that dumping will commence, amid much tears and gnashing of teeth, of course.

Fri, 05/23/2014 - 22:51 | 4790477 LetThemEatRand
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The good thing about radiation is that everyone's teeth will fall out.  But there's always bleeding gum gnashing.  Similar to the golf clap.

Fri, 05/23/2014 - 22:54 | 4790483 mvsjcl
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What's the half-life of that ugly image radiating my internal eye?

Fri, 05/23/2014 - 23:37 | 4790553 zerozulu
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In around 25,000 years this will convert into lead. So let those future homophones be worried about lead poisoning. We don't need to worry about their problems.

Fri, 05/23/2014 - 23:51 | 4790576 willwork4food
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I forget, what's the half-life of pelosi, feinstien and biden? 25.000 years? God help us.

Fri, 05/23/2014 - 23:55 | 4790581 nope-1004
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Stupid Japs.  First idiotic mistake was putting a nuclear plant on one of the most active fault lines in the world, and on the coast.  There is dumb, and there is phukking dumb.

 

Sat, 05/24/2014 - 00:09 | 4790599 COSMOS
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Sounds just like California.  Porn industry in there so lots of Phukking definitely.

Sat, 05/24/2014 - 02:55 | 4790760 derek_vineyard
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did anyone ever think they would spend the 250-500 billion to encapsualte it?  and even then because tunelling underwater is required---it wouldn't be failsafe

 

 

Sat, 05/24/2014 - 06:59 | 4790957 espirit
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It's as I've said all along:

NuKuFuCu...

Sat, 05/24/2014 - 10:02 | 4791083 Headbanger
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Get a Geiger counter app for your Android device here to check your sushi and any Japanese cars you get into.

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.rdklein.radioactivity

Get lead sheets here:

http://www.rotometals.com/product-p/leadsheet1pound.htm?1=1&CartID=0

Nail guns if it gets really bad:

http://www.homedepot.com/b/Tools-Hardware-Air-Compressors-Tools-Accessor...|THD|D25H&mid=sqAjIVieE|dc_mtid_8903pn525184_pcrid_47697411545_pkw_%2Bnail%20%2Bgun_pmt_b&gclid=CPHlxr7cxL4CFZBxOgodOTkAOg

 

Sat, 05/24/2014 - 11:00 | 4791179 BTFDemocracy
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This is it. Moving away from Los Angeles. No need to glow green.

Sat, 05/24/2014 - 00:10 | 4790600 CheapBastard
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"The Canadian student opined her next project is to study the increased rates of leukemia, thyroid cancer and neuroblastomas on the West Coast of Merikas."

Sat, 05/24/2014 - 05:42 | 4790897 BigJim
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And then she made the mistake of using a nailgun in a hot tub.

Sat, 05/24/2014 - 00:14 | 4790609 ebworthen
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What's a little radiation among friends?

It's like serial non-mongamy without condoms, more fun that way.

"We're all in the same boat" comes to mind, not to mention that they were GE reactors pushed by the U.S.

We dropped two nukes on them so the people of Japan deserve a break, but not TEPCO and the corrupt government.

Sat, 05/24/2014 - 00:49 | 4790646 Tall Tom
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Stupid Japs? It seems to me that General Electric is an American Corporation. They built the core.

 

It was an American Design built by subsidiaries of American Corporations as we were intent on farming cheap japanese goods and services.

 

The USA did it.

 

 

Sat, 05/24/2014 - 01:55 | 4790713 Tall Tom
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To the fools who downvoted...Sorry that you do not like the facts.

 

From Wikipedia...http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fukushima_Daiichi_Nuclear_Power_Plant

 

The Fukushima Daiichi Nuclear Power Plant (??????????, Fukushima Daiichi Genshiryoku Hatsudensho?) is a disabled nuclear power plant ...Fukushima I was the first nuclear plant to be designed, constructed and run in conjunction with General Electric, Boise, and Tokyo Electric Power Company (TEPCO).[3]

 

It was an AMERICAN DESIGN.  We did this to ourselves.

Sat, 05/24/2014 - 05:44 | 4790899 BigJim
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There's plenty of stupid to go round. GE may have sold them a pup, but it was the the Japs who bought the pup, and then put it on a faultline and in the way of tsunamis.

Sat, 05/24/2014 - 18:09 | 4791916 The Blank Stare
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The Americans also told them not to put the generators, and the actual plant, so close to the ocean, but to put them higher up the hill. TEPCO didn't want to pay the extra money to do this. Loss of power was the main reason for the melt-throughs.

Sat, 05/24/2014 - 04:41 | 4790856 newbie vampire
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"There is dumb, and there is phukking dumb."

You think so ?

Is it stoopider than the US volunteering to take a bullet for them ? 

It wouldn't surprise me if this their way of getting back at us for Hiroshima and Nagasaki.  Not too many years from now, we're gonna be seeing the beginning of generations of US mutants.

Sat, 05/24/2014 - 06:47 | 4790948 Winston Churchill
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The Wal-Martians are already among us.

Sat, 05/24/2014 - 10:03 | 4791085 James-Morrison
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I might be moving to Montana soon...

The world needs more dental floss.

Sat, 05/24/2014 - 06:46 | 4790946 mccvilb
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Ya, like we Americans would never do anything as stupid as that. (First Nuclear Meltdown in the US 55 yrs ago located on top of the San Andreas fault line)

Sat, 05/24/2014 - 02:28 | 4790743 HaroldWang
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Remember the movie, "China Syndrome"? They scared everone into believing a nuclear meltdown would destroy much of the world. Japan had 3 or 4 at the same time! And what's the result? Not much of anything. No widespread destruction. No thousands of deaths or mutations. I guess our worst nightmare never materialized because it never existed.

Sat, 05/24/2014 - 03:32 | 4790793 intric8
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Its just the water dump persisting for the next few years that bothers me Wanger, but other than that they should be able to wind it down without too much trouble.

There will be thousands of cancers leading to deaths out of that fukushima event though, that will be realized harry. Just a matter of time.

Sat, 05/24/2014 - 06:21 | 4790922 UselessEater
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be happy, Harold and I are just another pair of uselesseaters.....so we'll eat our sushi proudly until the tumours make it impossible.

For Gawd's sake anyone not weary about this risk is not considering the precautionary principle, you know, do no harm, etc.....

Sat, 05/24/2014 - 04:39 | 4790854 ebworthen
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Shhhh!

The Tuna and Salmon are fine.

Bon Appetit.  And don't forget the iodized salt.

"Do Not Worry" and all that; the reacotrs in Amurika are fine too.  No worries.

Sat, 05/24/2014 - 06:32 | 4790930 negative rates
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They are fine until they are proved not to be.

Sat, 05/24/2014 - 09:39 | 4791060 Fukushima Sam
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Absolutley.  There is no immediate danger to human health here.

Sat, 05/24/2014 - 11:59 | 4791260 Redneck Hippy
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Wang,

Flog your theories to the kids from Fukushima with thyroid cancer.  The government claimed it couldn't be caused by radiation because it happened too fast.  Like they had never seen the leading edge of a bell curve.

 

Sat, 05/24/2014 - 20:36 | 4792221 TradingTroll
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HaroldWang,

 

Did you not get the memo about cancer rates exploding? Tens of millions of more cases per year now than a decade ago? Autism and other childhood diseases exploding?

Genetic deformity exploding. Missing genes. Genetic passports being planned.

 

All for 'free' nuke power that will power what? An uninhabitable planet?

Fri, 05/23/2014 - 22:10 | 4790392 Tao 4 the Show
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Sat, 05/24/2014 - 02:36 | 4790749 TheRideNeverEnds
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I am no nuclear scientist but what I have studied on radiation exposure tells me the hype about its negative effects is greatly exaggerated and mainly pushed by the oil, gas and coal industries for obvious reasons. 

 

Look at Chernobyl, there were only like what, a few dozen people that died as a result of acute radiation poisoning, all of which were people working in the immediate vicinity and a couple thousand that were loosely correlated to have incurred cancer from tertiary exposure.

 

There are people that live around that place now, they moved back in and have been there for years, they are doing just fine.  

 

I am jot saying its totally harmless but all facts indicate its effects are greatly overblown and in reality you have a much higher statistical chance of death by choking on the food you eat than any radiation contained therein.  

Sat, 05/24/2014 - 03:04 | 4790767 HaroldWang
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Perfectly stated. Finally a rational thinker on this. Thank you!

Sat, 05/24/2014 - 06:08 | 4790906 BigJim
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 a few dozen people that died as a result of acute radiation poisoning

Yes, indeed, there probably were only a few dozen people who were killed by acute radiation poisoning... but countless thousands who have developed - or will develop - cancer as a result of 'non-acute' radiation.... not to mention all those happy happy Chernobyl babies.

Sat, 05/24/2014 - 06:54 | 4790952 freak of nature
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The only reason more people didn't die due to the Chernobyl accident is because they evacuated Pripyat and it has remained that way for nearly 30 years. The danger is hardly "overblown".

Sat, 05/24/2014 - 11:59 | 4791261 SykeWar
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"A few dozen"?  "A couple thousand"?  "Pushed by the oil, gas and coal industries"?

You're not a nuke scientist?  You sound like one.  One thing's for sure, you are a great liar. According to Vyacheslav Grishin of the Chernobyl Union, the main organization of liquidators, "25,000 of the Russian liquidators are dead and 70,000 disabled, about the same in Ukraine, and 10,000 dead in Belarus and 25,000 disabled", which makes a total of 60,000 dead (10% of the 600 000, liquidators) and 165,000 disabled.  Also, you're an obsfucator; thyroid cancer, a very rare disease in children skyrocketed to nearly 7,000 cases in Belarus, Russia, and Ukraine by 2005.

Nuke pukes like to twist logic to fit their twisted agenda.  They say things like, "people moved back".  So what?  This doesn't mean it's safe!  It means they have nowhere else to go, or they have too much vested to just let it all go.  And their favorite escape statement is, "we don't know what is doing X, but we KNOW it's not radiation."  WTF, really?  And how do they know this?  Answer: they don't.

If you had done even basic cursory research you would have seen your statements here are complete BS.  Your screed is nothing more than Nuke industry propaganda line for line.  Shill.

Sat, 05/24/2014 - 15:09 | 4791592 TheRideNeverEnds
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Most people are swayed by such "big" numbers but again its fucking nothing.  Over 20,000 people die per year in america from slip and falls, over 30,000 die per year from accidental poisoning / drug overdose, that is not counting car accidents which number basically the combination of those previous two per year.

 

Those numbers are a joke, follow 600,000 people for a period of time and the longer the time period the higher the percent of them that will be dead or disabled.   Great, 7000 kids that may have gotten cancer from radiation, how many kids do you think are disabled per year in the US from just things we can control like vaccines and HFCS?  (hint; add a few zeros.)  

 

Again, sure its not ideal but don't make out radiation to be some world ending apocalyptic event.  Radiation is a natural part of the universe, we have been and will continue to be constantly exposed to it from natural and man made sources ranging from the soil to the sun and everything in between.  It is actually crucial to many of our biological processes via the generation of Vitamin D.   

 

I live in an area where hundreds of nukes were detonated not long ago, thousands were cumulatively detonated around the world.  We are still here.

 

Who is to say that these new sources of radiation are not a good thing?  There is an argument to be made for the effects of radiation on DNA being a mechanism of evolution and a crucial component in the creation of not only life in the first place but also the rapid advancement to complex life.  

 

All that aside, what do you want them to do with that water anyway?  Keep it there forever, vaporize it, try to clean it, release it, bottle it up and sell it, load it on a rocket and shoot it into the sun?  

Sat, 05/24/2014 - 15:25 | 4791636 Redneck Hippy
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Go volunteer to fix Fukushima and see how fast you evolve.

Sat, 05/24/2014 - 18:24 | 4791938 The Blank Stare
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You have no idea what's going to happen today, tomorrow, or next year. there are 3 or 4 events that could occure that WOULD make it a "world ending apocalyptic event". 

1. Any of the fuel pools collapse or dry up=world ending apocalyptic event

2. Any of the cores melting through to the water table=world ending apocalyptic event

3.Another strong earthquake and tsunami=world ending apocalyptic event

4. Massive kill-off of Phyoplankton=world ending apocalyptic event

 

Your comparisons are childish. And if you start talking about bananas, I'm gonna bitch slap you.

Sat, 05/24/2014 - 19:30 | 4792088 Idaho potato head
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Heh,perhaps it will become moot after the coming exchange over Ukraine and thusly ignored by TPTB.

Sun, 05/25/2014 - 05:41 | 4792857 Againstthelie
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Atomic bomb radiation material is different to nuclear reactor radiation. Radiation of atimic bombs has a short half life, the one from reactors lasts hundreds, thousands and even tenthousands of years.

 

Sun, 05/25/2014 - 18:21 | 4794057 SilverTech
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Chernobyl Deaths Top a Million Based on Real Evidence

...Nevertheless, the devastating health impacts did not escape the notice of the hundreds of doctors, scientists and other citizens who had to bear witness to the deformities, sicknesses and deaths of exposed babies, children and adults in their care...

...The evidence that emerged is also striking for the diversity of deformities and illnesses observed apart from cancers; and this is documented in more than 10,000 studies...

http://www.i-sis.org.uk/Chernobyl_Deaths_Top_a_Million.php

Infant mortality rates have increased all over the Northern hemisphere since Chernobyl. I think more radiation has been released from Fukushima already than fom Chrenobyl, and it's continuing and could easily spike since nobody knows what's going on with the 3 melted cores or what will happen with the fuel pools.

Fri, 05/23/2014 - 21:59 | 4790360 studfinder
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Less then that...half life is about 30 years...so after a few half lives its pretty much spent...still a good 100+ years...   Sad..but its almost like the situation is being run by morons that have no clue how to fix it (can it be fixed?)...

Sat, 05/24/2014 - 06:13 | 4790918 DavidC
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Which isotope is the relevant one?

Caesium has 39 known isotopes with half lifes ranging from 2.3 MILLION years (135Cs) to 30 years (137Cs) to 2 years (134Cs) to fractions of a second.

ALSO, the MAIN consideration is the TYPE of radiation, whether it is Alpha, Beta or Gamma radiation. I'd sooner be near an alpha emitter than a gamma emitter.

And that's only one of the various radioactive materials!

DavidC

Sat, 05/24/2014 - 09:33 | 4791055 logicalman
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The main consideration is radiation, everything else is just details.

As for being 'near' an alpha emitter, internal exposure to alpha emitters is deadly.

Root Mean Square and all that - when the range is zero, the dose is high.

Pu is a good example and its half life is a bit more than 30 years - 238 three times that - 244 about three MILLION times that and lots of in between numbers.

 

Fri, 05/23/2014 - 22:21 | 4790386 freewolf7
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The phrase "don't sh*t where you eat" comes to mind.
I'm awe-struck at the degree to which we can trash the planet, while most use their chosen addiction/distraction to look away.
Given our current level of trance state, when news of Fukushima radiation reaches The Today Show, I believe we will actually be nonchalant about it.
"Oh, those poor people in _____, I hope it works out for them." No rage, just, "Well, I better get to work."
Like antelope, witnessing the death of one of their own caught by the big cat, they just keep on grazing,

Sat, 05/24/2014 - 02:19 | 4790732 August
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Alarmists!

Just don't go within a kilometer of the Pacific Ocean, or eat any seafood for the next 300 years, and you'll be fine. Most likely.

Sat, 05/24/2014 - 08:28 | 4790998 Headbanger
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Or at least bring a Geiger counter with you to the sushi bar!

But this is sick shit:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wUt-6YsSYOk

BTW.. This will completely fuck the West Coast real estate market for a very long time !

Gee.. Maybe Vegas real estate is a great buy after all!

Sat, 05/24/2014 - 07:19 | 4790964 shovelhead
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I'm sure they're crying inside.

Sat, 05/24/2014 - 19:39 | 4792106 Idaho potato head
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Cree Prophesy: Only after the last tree has been cut, the last stream has been poisoned and the last fish has been caught. Will man realize he can't eat money.

Sat, 05/24/2014 - 10:48 | 4791159 rubiconsolutions
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Turning the Pacific Ocean into an Easy Bake Oven one ton at a time.

Fri, 05/23/2014 - 21:37 | 4790295 navy62802
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Because no one cares. No one is monitoring. Only until people become sick will anyone care, and by then, it will be too late to do anything about it.

Fri, 05/23/2014 - 21:51 | 4790333 SDShack
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No problem. When people get sick, they can just get 0zer0care. And 0zer0care death panels will solve all these pesky problems.

Fri, 05/23/2014 - 22:23 | 4790425 homiegot
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It's alreadty solved a bunch of problems for some vets. The VA: the leader in healthcare reform.

http://www.wnd.com/2014/05/obama-2008-va-will-become-a-leader-of-health-...

Fri, 05/23/2014 - 22:49 | 4790476 TeamDepends
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There's not a smidgen of dead veterans.

Fri, 05/23/2014 - 21:57 | 4790347 logicalman
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Already too late.

Fri, 05/23/2014 - 21:57 | 4790349 UselessEater
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WHO predicts massively increasing cancer rates but seem to emphasize that the cure is prevention via diet, exercise and avoiding alcohol and smoking. It appears the lamestream media agrees and so the focus of environmental pollutants is avoided including various forms of radiation poisoning.

Neatly blaming the individual who becomes sick in the future and avoiding corporate liability and clean up & prevention obligations.

"World Health Organization’s (WHO) esteemed International Agency for Research on Cancer (IARC) prepared to tell the world we are on the verge of a cancer tsunami. World Cancer Report 2014 was nearly six years in the making. ....14,000,000 new cancer cases are being diagnosed worldwide each year, with that number expected to almost double over the next two decades to 22,000,000 new cases per year....."

http://www.takebackyourpower.net/news/2014/03/31/who-knew-the-elephant-i...

 

Sat, 05/24/2014 - 06:11 | 4790915 BigJim
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I'm not downplaying the role Fukushima will play in engendering cancer... but with an aging demographic, you'd expect increasing number of cancer diagnoses.

Of course, if the nuclear powers hadn't detonated thousands of nuclear warheads in open-air tests, I'm sure the rates would be lower still.

Sat, 05/24/2014 - 07:47 | 4790981 Took Red Pill
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Yes let's all keep donating to the American Cancer Society and the Relay for Life to make us feel good that we're helping to beat cancer. BS! Cancer will never be cured because a) there's too many cancer causing chemicals being dumped in our environment b)it's big business; healthcare spending adds to our GDP

Fri, 05/23/2014 - 22:00 | 4790364 Jack Burton
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The official policy of media and government is to ignore it all. The less it is mentioned the more people just forget it ever happened. The US Government is officially working with media to supress any mention of Fukushima. How many Americans even know that many of the US Navy sailors sent to the incident were heavily radiated and the evidence was thrown away or marked top secret.

Fri, 05/23/2014 - 22:04 | 4790373 fonzannoon
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where the hell are the family and communities that these sailors live with? There was a lot of them. Where are the other Navy sailors who have to be aware of this? How the hell were they able to completely bury this and silence all these people. That is disturbing.

Fri, 05/23/2014 - 22:40 | 4790460 UselessEater
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The silence in itself is extremely telling.

My suspicious mind posits that as more families are affected by cancers it creates a number of payoffs for TPTB -eg sick families are too drained to uprise, the accepted medicines benefit big Pharma backed by WHO's misinformation posted above, blame for wildlife decimation will be focused on the 'unsustainble' way we live (as opposed to Fuki radiation), parents are blamed for creating unhealthy lifestyles for their chubby selves and kids (vs recognising environmental exposure)..... etc. There is even a potential scenario for forced relocation of people living on the West coast.

I just wonder where TPTB are going to move to? Bush's land in Paraguay won't fit them all.

 

Fri, 05/23/2014 - 22:50 | 4790478 DoChenRollingBearing
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+ 1 for mentioning Paraguay.

Fun facts:

1) E Paraguay has the "cheapest biomass" (farmland) on the planet.

2) E Paraguay sits on top of the Guarani Aquifer, probably the world's largest.

3) Paraguay gets lots of sun, perfect for solar panels...

 

 

(Bush picked a great little hidey-hole there...)

Fri, 05/23/2014 - 22:57 | 4790489 UselessEater
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DoChen, Have you visited Paraguay? I was there last year, probably going to be spending a lot more time there in the future. Pity its such a long haul flight :(

Fri, 05/23/2014 - 23:16 | 4790516 DoChenRollingBearing
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Once, yes, in 1985 during our honeymoon (also Iguassu Falls).  In 1985 it was a very quiet and remote-feeling place.  I would not know about now, but I hear the country is still very poor.

Seems to me like Paraguay would have an opportunity to invite Bitcoin miners to set up shop.  Cheap land, cheap electricity (that huge dam they share with Brazil), cheap local labor.

I hear that Brazilians are slowly taking over the country though, moving into far eastern Paraguay and setting up farms.

***

UselessEater, consider gmailing me at my ZH name...  KBC and Iljin (Korean bearing manufacturers) do not have representation in Paraguay AFAIK.

Fri, 05/23/2014 - 23:26 | 4790540 UselessEater
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Will do. Thks.

Fri, 05/23/2014 - 23:54 | 4790578 DoChenRollingBearing
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The little doggie has mail!

:)

Sat, 05/24/2014 - 00:18 | 4790606 COSMOS
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Silencing them is pretty easy especially when you control all the tv stations and major papers, just dont give them the coverage.  Now if the sailors or their families were to make a web page about it, then how are you going to learn that its even out there.  Especially when Google is in their back pocket, do you think your searches are not filtered?

I mean just looking at all the one sided stories about Ukraine on Yahoo and Google news (they only link to big media/gov propaganda, with no links to other indie sites) pretty much tells you they are mouthpieces for the state dept and NSA.

I knew google was a shit stain on the net the moment I heard their motto about do no evil.  Kind of like Fox's Fair and Balanced or the Patriot act.  When someone needs to come out with a feel good statement you can be sure the psychopaths are doing the exact opposite.

Sat, 05/24/2014 - 02:52 | 4790758 SAT 800
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The disturbing thing is that you can't figure out that nothing happened; there's no campaign of silence, because there's nothing to suppress. If your theory seems unlikely; it;s probably false. Also, you're reacting to a "blog expert", Jack Burton, who gets to magically read Top Secret reports. You're not really this stupid, are you ?

Sat, 05/24/2014 - 19:45 | 4792119 Idaho potato head
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When money speaks, the truth keeps silent.

Sat, 05/24/2014 - 02:48 | 4790756 SAT 800
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Lucky thing you get to read all that "Top Secret" material, eh? so you can tell us all about it. You're a pathetic moron.

Fri, 05/23/2014 - 21:39 | 4790300 williambanzai7
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Sounds fishy...

Sat, 05/24/2014 - 00:34 | 4790632 IridiumRebel
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Zoinks Scoob!
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17th May 2014 – Masses of fish turn up dead in a marina in Pultneyville, New York, America. Link
16th May 2014 – Mass die off of fish in a river in Aragatsotn, Armenia. Link
15th May 2014 – Hundreds of fish dying off ‘due to pollution’ in the wetlands of Rewalsar, India. Link
14th May 2014 – Thousands of dead fish washing ashore in Cootes Paradise, Hamilton, Canada. Link
13th May 2014 – Tens of thousands of dead fish wash up along coast of Tasmania, Australia. Link
12th May 2014 – Mass death of fish in the river Eden ‘is a mystery’ in Cumbria, England. Link
11th May 2014 – Thousands of dead Puffer Fish, also dead turtles washing up on various beaches in Colombia and Costa Rica. Link and here
11th May 2014 – Hundreds of dead fish found in a pond is ‘a mystery’ in Southborough, England. Link
10th May 2014 – Thousands of fish dead due to pollution in spring in Sikkim, India. Link
9th May 2014 – Die off of Fish ’causes panic’ in the Luda Yana River in Bulgaria. Link
8th May 2014 – Thousands of dead fish appear in a lake ‘shock residents’ in Mangalore, India. Link
8th May 2014 – 12 TONS of dead fish removed from lakes in Chisago County, Minnesota, America. Link
7th May 2014 – Massive die off of fish in reservoirs in Quanzhou, China. Link
7th May 2014 – Thousands of fish found dead on the shores of Roatan, Honduras. Link
5th May 2014 – Hundreds of dead fish wash up on a beach ‘a mystery’ in San Antonio Oeste, Argentina. Link
5th May 2014 – Mass death of fish found in lakes in Almindingen, Denmark. Link
4th May 2014 – Mass die off of fish in a river in Fujian, China. Link
3rd May 2014 – 1,000+ dead fish wash ashore along a lake in Ontario, Canada. Link
2nd May 2014 – 40,000 fish die suddenly in a dam in Piaui, Brazil. Link
30th April 2014 – Mass fish kill ‘worst I’ve seen in 26 years of working here’ in Iowa, America. Link
30th April 2014 – Large amount of dead fish found floating along a river in Xiasha District, China. Link
29th April 2014 – Dozens of sea turtles are washing up dead in South Mississippi, America. Link
29th April 2014 – Thousands of dead fish washing up along the shores of Lakes in Wisconsin, America. Link
28th April 2014 – Turtles and other marine life continue to wash up dead in Bari, Italy. Link
28th April 2014 – Large fish kill found in the Mogi River in Brazil. Link
25th April 2014 – Large fish kill found in a reservoir in Nanchong, China. Link
24th April 2014 – Large amount of fish wash up dead along a river in La Chorrera, Panama. Link
23rd April 2014 – 2 Million fish found dead in a dam in Tehran, Iran. Link
23rd April 2014 – Mass die off of fish in Island lake in Ontario, Canada. Link
23rd April 2014 – Thousands of dead fish appear in a lake in Mudanjiang, China.
22nd April 2014 – 1,000 fish found dead in Oona River, County Tyrone, Northern Ireland.
21st April 2014 – Large amounts of fish washing up dead along the Panchganga River in India.
19th April 2014 – MILLIONS of dead fish found floating in Thondamanaru Lagoon, Sri Lanka.

Sat, 05/24/2014 - 01:44 | 4790700 Uber Vandal
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Sea Urchin die off Hawaii Feb. 2012

http://thegardenisland.com/news/local/large-scale-die-off-of-sea-urchins...

Star Fish / Sea Star die off Pacific Coast 2013

http://newswatch.nationalgeographic.com/2013/09/09/massive-starfish-die-...

Of course, the die off could be from any number of reasons.

However, Hawaii is closer to Japan, and the sea life appears to have been affected there first.....

Sat, 05/24/2014 - 01:58 | 4790717 IridiumRebel
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Try the terminated sea snot....it's wonderful this evening.

Fri, 05/23/2014 - 21:39 | 4790301 homiegot
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Fuck it. Might as well. We are doomed.

 

Fri, 05/23/2014 - 21:55 | 4790340 Alethian
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You can't make this shit up.

Sat, 05/24/2014 - 05:51 | 4790903 UselessEater
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Its almost like that's the point. If we are to reasonably attribute any future health and wildlife affects on Fuki, then yes ,it appears that we will end up seeming like lunatics. Insane world.

Fri, 05/23/2014 - 21:39 | 4790303 prains
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Thanks Dr. David Suzuki for keeping us all aprised of the environmental disaster going on in your ancestral homeland........wait a minute

Fri, 05/23/2014 - 21:39 | 4790304 SAT 800
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You gotta love internet jounalism; anything for page clicks. There's no such thing as "radioactive water", of course; what they're bloviating about is tiny quantities of various elements in some water; which will decay into non-radioactive status; fall to the bottom and stay there; and so forth. Of no concern to anyone; but it does make a nice distraction from some of the real problems caused in Washington, D.C.

Fri, 05/23/2014 - 21:45 | 4790316 prains
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does it decay in milli seconds before consumed by bottom feeders which in turn are then consumed by higher predators or is it possible the half-life exists long enough to enter the food chain / ecosystem? 

Fri, 05/23/2014 - 21:55 | 4790342 fonzannoon
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He is far and away the most retarded poster on this site. Only he can turn my usual anger towards Snyder in another direction. Then again, only he can brag about getting an 800 on his SAT's.

Fri, 05/23/2014 - 21:59 | 4790355 logicalman
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No point trying to converse with someone who talks out of their arse!

Sat, 05/24/2014 - 08:14 | 4790992 Zadok
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Not a pretty sight...

Fri, 05/23/2014 - 22:19 | 4790412 Greenskeeper_Carl
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Cut Snyder some slack fonz, at least this one wasn't a list

Fri, 05/23/2014 - 22:22 | 4790422 fonzannoon
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I did dammit. I said this putz SAT whatever was the one guy who was actually able to get me away from ripping Snyder for a moment.

Fri, 05/23/2014 - 23:55 | 4790580 TheMeatTrapper
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I think Banging7GramRocks has him beat by a longshot. 

Sat, 05/24/2014 - 03:11 | 4790774 SAT 800
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And let's not forget studying the hard sciences for thrity years while you sat on your ass and watched television; that needs to enter into your calculation also.

Sat, 05/24/2014 - 20:29 | 4792205 TradingTroll
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You have posted dozens of words of BS in this discussion. Not one post has an upvote.

 

Insantity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different outcome.

 

So now we know what happend to people who spread DU, Plutonium, SR 990 and CS 137 on their toast for breakfast.

 

Tomorrow you will be dead.

Fri, 05/23/2014 - 21:58 | 4790350 Tao 4 the Show
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So SAT800 is that poorly educated? Honestly man, most people don't care whether water molecules themselves or isotopes dissolved in the water are radioactive. That's a level of detail that is irrelevant to the issue. Cs137, Cs134, and Sr90 bioconcentrate in fish and replace potassium and calcium in our bodies when we eat the fish. This is serious stuff.

Fri, 05/23/2014 - 22:05 | 4790383 studfinder
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Yup..your body uses it in different ways.  Cs137 will work out of your body over time (6 months?), but if you are constantly exposed...no so good.  Sr90 i believe is used to make bone (body thinks it calcium) which is very not good! 

Fri, 05/23/2014 - 22:20 | 4790418 Tao 4 the Show
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Right. There is a half life for radioactivity (e.g. around 34 years for Cs137) and then a biological half life for how long it takes the body to excrete various isotopes. While in the body, they irradiate cells, DNA, etc from extremely short range.

Sat, 05/24/2014 - 03:05 | 4790770 SAT 800
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Just because you like to believe things doesn't make them facts. I realize this is very inconvenient. It's all about quantities. By all means research the subject.

Fri, 05/23/2014 - 22:09 | 4790394 prains
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so to be clear.....isotope.......water.......food chain......human contact......fucking messs

 

SAT800 you need to spend some time evaluating your current consumption of oxygen and come to the same conclusion as many of us........#you.are.wasting.my.air

Fri, 05/23/2014 - 23:43 | 4790561 Aussiekiwi
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So to be clear...greed.....military.......false flag.......terrorism......human contact......fucking mess

 

Why is the end result always a fucking mess? Human beings are so seriously flawed.

 

 

Fri, 05/23/2014 - 23:47 | 4790567 prains
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it's the almost the same as being Aussie and Kiwi, how is that possible?? LOL it's like Alien 3 when Sigourney sees her mutated clones in the beakers as they progressed towards her final creation. Look away.......

Sat, 05/24/2014 - 05:54 | 4790905 bunnyswanson
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Snipers take out any potential leadership which could take us down a road of rationality.  The apparatus they have devised, however, can and will be used against them before it is over, I hope. 

Sun, 05/25/2014 - 11:46 | 4793302 DYS
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I keep saying that FEMA camps are a great place for politicians and their families.

Sat, 05/24/2014 - 03:04 | 4790766 SAT 800
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If you insist on worrying about the three atoms of Cesium you may someday encounter in a Tuna; buy a radiation counter and monitor your fish. You'll be surprised at the results of your research. The background will always over-run any possible signal; in other words; you'll never detect anything that could be attributed to Fukushima. but this is merely the result of calculation; by all means do the research; it'll take a few years, of course. By the way every human being on Earth already has Strontium 90 in them they got from their mother's milk; at a miniumum; courtesy of the US above ground "testing" program. Much, much, much more than anyone will ever detect from any fukushima affected seafood; if there is any.

Sat, 05/24/2014 - 09:58 | 4791075 Ratscam
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how many times do I have to repeat here on ZH, that if your geiger counter tips you off when you hold it close to a food source, it is way above any safe level to consume. One particle of PU239 will never show a reading on your geiger counter, but would be 100% deadly if swallowed. Hence food can only be tested with lab equipment costing tens of thousands of dollars. Please SAT go back studying.

Sat, 05/24/2014 - 03:07 | 4790771 SAT 800
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It's not irrelevant at all on this blog; when they start out talking about tons of radio-active water; someone has to put the facts straight. As you know, the average citizen is perfectly willing to believe in "radioactive water"; although no such thing exists.

Sat, 05/24/2014 - 15:05 | 4791595 real
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sat 800 is a janpanese tepco employee paid to say what he is saying.  

Sun, 05/25/2014 - 05:57 | 4792862 Bearwagon
Sun, 05/25/2014 - 11:49 | 4793307 DYS
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You are just smart enough to be dangerous.   By no means is titrated water even close to what is being discussed here.  

Sat, 05/24/2014 - 02:56 | 4790762 SAT 800
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In order to obtain any meaningful insight into this situation you'd have to do quite a bit of research and some arithmetic; and you're not going to; so you'll just have to soldier on with your ignorant alarmism. My function, as a properly educated person, is simply to inform you that it is what it is; Ignorant Alarmism. About Nothing.

Fri, 05/23/2014 - 22:23 | 4790424 Mercuryquicksilver
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I for one welcome discounted all you can eat sushi.

Fri, 05/23/2014 - 23:39 | 4790557 Aussiekiwi
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yes, yum and you won't need the lights on to eat it.

Sat, 05/24/2014 - 05:35 | 4790894 lakecity55
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Fuck, if you were in the service, you are already shot full o shit.

More so today. Soldiers have to guard their rear from the new "Fighting 69th Gay Blades" operators.

Fri, 05/23/2014 - 23:20 | 4790528 TheReplacement
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Phonestar is annoying but well intentioned.  You are just dumb and/or bad intentioned.  Go eat the fish.  Prove us wrong.

Fri, 05/23/2014 - 21:42 | 4790309 NoWayJose
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About 60 million years ago, the Martians also thought that dumping massive amounts of radiative water into their oceans would work...

Fri, 05/23/2014 - 21:46 | 4790319 prains
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i think your timeline is a little off, Manhattan was around but not sure it was 60 million years ago

Fri, 05/23/2014 - 21:53 | 4790338 Jack Burton
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Why is radiation spiking? It has been several years now that the cores have been in cold shut down. The spent fuel pools have be stable and under control for 2 years. So that begs a question, how come radiation is spiking, both in the water and around the reactors? It is now leathal to get near the actual reactors in some places. Ground water pours into the damaged containment areas of the melted cores, three of them. This flows directly into the sea and into the underground water table. Tepco uses water to cool spent fuel pools and the melted core areas, and trys to capture some of it and store it for later treatment. Now they find out the treatment does not work, so even the captured water will be dumped. The guy in charge of cleaning Three Mile Island says best case scenario is clean up in 40 years, IF, and only IF, someone invents a method to clean up the three melted cores, and invents robots that can withstand such lethal to electronics doeses of radiation. So expect today's story to be the same when most of us are dead of old age! 40 years best case, that will never happen, 100 years is not an out of the ball park guess, NEVER is even better of a guess.

Particles of radioactive material that are core related have been found miles from the plant. Where it was blown by the explosions. I don't know enough myself to say if this is spent fuel or actual in use core material blasted out into the air.

Media and government lies. Just ask the US Navy sailors that have been radiated badly and are being told to go fuck themselves by the Government, the Navy and the VA.

Fri, 05/23/2014 - 22:04 | 4790372 Tao 4 the Show
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There are hundreds of tons of uranium in a single core. The uncontained nature of the cores means reactions and isotope generation are unredictable and potentially ongoing.

Fri, 05/23/2014 - 22:04 | 4790378 DoChenRollingBearing
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+ 1

Sat, 05/24/2014 - 00:51 | 4790648 disabledvet
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dripping the core ten thousand feet is one thing (take a look at your "off limits" parts of the Ocean folks)...but having a meltdown right off the shoreline is a problem because your "coolant" can become "fuel."

I really don't think that's rocket science...but hey, as is duly noted "we all have to do our own science now."

CNN did have John King who did initially report on this. Without him I never would have known about Fairwinds or Arnie Gunderson actually. Obviously having Arnie on didn't go over very well...and to my knowledge John King has never been allowed to go back there.

Ironically Vermont Yankee is now in shutdown mode..and it's parent company, Entergy, is up 25% in just the past few months as well.

So much for the theory "only if we have more can we have a higher stock price." To me that is news indeed and it would be interesting to see Arnie...and John King who got this ball rolling (so to speak DoChen)..."why this is in fact so."

Pure speculation of course. But of a good kind, yes, yes?
I mean "i ain't long Tepco here" no matter what happens with the yen.
And yes "nickel can contain the world's worst nuclear disaster."

You'd need a lot of it though.

And no, Chernobyl still isn't contained either. That was almost thirty years ago.

That's probably why Russia will never take Eastern Ukraine actually...and is probably more than ready to give back Crimea at this point as well.

Germany has successfully LBO'ed East Germany I think it is safe to say. Will the same hold true for Ukraine? Only time will tell.

As for Fukushima...the problem isn't "dumping" in my view but "what is the fuel and is the water burning off again?" If there are a couple to tens of thousands of nuclear fuel rods that are going critical again...there is no way to turn that off. That seawall would have to seal off the entire port...and nothing should be allowed to enter or leave that body of water until all that seawater was cooked off and the muck hardened to concrete. "then we can start talking solutions."

of course there is no problem to begin with...so where to begin again? certainly not with freezing it.

Fri, 05/23/2014 - 22:04 | 4790375 DoChenRollingBearing
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+ 1

Sat, 05/24/2014 - 03:18 | 4790777 SAT 800
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Why does someone who knows absolutely nothing have opinions ? Now that's an interesting question. You're a sort of running sore spewing ignorant and fantastic fabulous hysterical crap. In a very real and fundamental sense; people like you really are the problem;; chronically ignorant, un-educatable and absolutely sure they know everything; including the "top Secret" of the irradiated sailors. where do you get this crap ?

Sat, 05/24/2014 - 13:51 | 4791463 Jack Burton
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Brilliant rebuttal. I can't argue with your obvious knowledge, And where in my post did I say "top secret"? Nowhere, so that makes you a..? Liar? SInce you are unable to show me where I am wrong, I stick by every word I said. Or are the cores really in cold shut down as TEPCO announced 2 years ago.

Sat, 05/24/2014 - 07:53 | 4790978 Snoopy the Economist
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"The spent fuel pools have be(en) stable and under control for 2 years."

Wow - whre the phuk have you been? I have seen no evidence of control. They don't even know where the cores are.

Fri, 05/23/2014 - 21:59 | 4790357 10mm
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I can't move my legs. Just got back from Sushi House.

Fri, 05/23/2014 - 22:34 | 4790445 813kml
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Wait 10 minutes, three new ones should sprout.

Fri, 05/23/2014 - 22:52 | 4790480 One And Only
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I just got back from the sushi house and my penis is enormous and has this glow emanating from it. My girlfriend just massaged it so that could have something to do with it. Could be radiation sickness though.

Sat, 05/24/2014 - 01:56 | 4790715 Dane Bramage
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That's no longer a penis ya scaley man-fish.  It's a mangina!! 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Opiv1x_B60A

Fri, 05/23/2014 - 22:02 | 4790370 toady
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We're all gonna die.

Fri, 05/23/2014 - 22:12 | 4790398 Thomas
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Actually, that may be the most factual statement ever.

Fri, 05/23/2014 - 23:24 | 4790535 TheReplacement
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We're all gonna die and still owe back taxes for the cleanup (make work) efforts that will inevitably happen.

El fix-ed

Fri, 05/23/2014 - 22:05 | 4790381 A Dollar Short
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Good grief, so now stinky tuna will not only give me chlamydia, it will give me cancer?

Gotta die from something.

Sat, 05/24/2014 - 20:21 | 4792182 TradingTroll
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Death I can handle. But thats not what we're discussing.

 

This is death wheere the kids and grandkids are all sterile, so when they die, the human race is finished.

 

Muller predicted this in 1949

http://www.amazon.com/dp/0873950976/ref=wl_it_dp_o_pC_S_ttl?_encoding=UT...

 

Man's Future Birthright: Essays on Science and Humanity Hardcover by Hermann J. Muller (Author)
Fri, 05/23/2014 - 22:05 | 4790384 KickIce
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Shouldn't we be more concerned about all the cows farting in Iowa?

Fri, 05/23/2014 - 22:20 | 4790414 Osmium
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Be nice, you don't need to refer to Iowa women like that.

  (full disclosure,  I lived in Iowa for 20 years)

Fri, 05/23/2014 - 22:10 | 4790396 Whatta
Whatta's picture

Oh well, our couple of million year Homo sapien etal party was fun while it lasted. Shit our nest, time to move on. Good luck cockraches, hope you last a few million more years.

Fri, 05/23/2014 - 22:33 | 4790442 NoWayJose
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The cockroaches should make it - they will have lots to feed on...

Fri, 05/23/2014 - 22:36 | 4790451 813kml
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Trillions of dollar bills.

Sat, 05/24/2014 - 05:30 | 4790888 lakecity55
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Hey, man, but what will Keef Richards eat? And won't he be lonely?

Sat, 05/24/2014 - 06:13 | 4790917 Incubus
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Cockroaches will make a better space faring species, anyway. They already look the part.

 

 

Fri, 05/23/2014 - 22:12 | 4790397 Dr. Engali
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The problem with Michael Snyder is that he writes so much chicken little doom porn that he's gotten himself to the point where once the reader sees his name he is automatically dismissed.

Fri, 05/23/2014 - 22:18 | 4790408 fonzannoon
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Doc come on, go easy on him. Here, read a book. Take a break from it all. Get into some drama

"In the midst of all of this chaos, a former CIA agent, a respected financial reporter and a blogger that takes his prepping to extremes all find themselves dropped into the middle of an ancient conflict"

http://www.amazon.com/The-Beginning-Of-End-ebook/dp/B00CNKRHRE

Great news, if you buy now you get 63% off the cover price...of the book by guy who is freaking out about inflation...

Fri, 05/23/2014 - 22:35 | 4790447 Dr. Engali
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That's some serious deflation. I think there's good support at zero.

Sat, 05/24/2014 - 00:59 | 4790655 disabledvet
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I finally got through "Green Eggs and Ham I am." I'll send you my copy Doc. It's seriously dog eared though.

Been writing my Phd on Fleetwood Mac's Gypsy.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=94ZQoVoVFe4

12,000 pages and I'm only through the first three stanza's.

I think the Professor in charge of doctorate program is starting to get pissed off.

The opening line i think is pretty good though.

"Wow. She's hot! And she can sing too!"

Sat, 05/24/2014 - 07:38 | 4790971 shovelhead
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Does anyone remember Peter Greene when Fleetwood Mac was a real band?

Fri, 05/23/2014 - 22:21 | 4790409 One And Only
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560 tonnes of water is only 1.12 million gallons of water.

Another way to look at it would be if everyone in the city of San Diego dumped one gallon of highly radioactive water into the ocean on the same day. As it were that fucking thing has been leaking into the ocean for years and all that water will grace the West Coast of the United States whether the government wants to tell us about it or not.

Enjoy your Plutonium bath you carbon hating California dreamers. Green energy is most certainly in your future.

Fri, 05/23/2014 - 23:42 | 4790560 Flagit
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560 x 2000(lbs to ton) = 1,120,000 lbs

1,120,000/8(lbs per gal) = 140,000 gal

 

Fri, 05/23/2014 - 23:58 | 4790584 One And Only
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1.2 million pounds...whatatever. should've just said "fuck load"

A microgram of Pu can kill you. I think that's smaller than a cunt hair - so a tiny bit

Sat, 05/24/2014 - 03:24 | 4790781 SAT 800
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only if you breath it in the form of a contaminated floating dust psrticle and it lodges in your lung; if you eat it in a fish; you'll just shit it out again tomorrow; please don't spread dis-information. the ignorance is bad enough already.

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