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China And Russia Hold "Massive" Joint Naval Drill: This Is What It Looked Like

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A month ago, when the fate of the historic (and now concluded) gas deal between Russia and China was still unknown we wrote that "Isolated Russia Makes Friends: To Hold Military Drill With China", a drill titled "Maritime Cooperation-2014", and which, coincidentally, is taking place in the northern part (ahem Japan and Taiwan) of the East China Sea, just as Russia is conducting another massive airforce drill along its border with Ukraine on the weekend of Ukraine's presidential election.

As part of the drill, which is taking place between May 20 and 26, the Chinese and Russian naval vessels conducted maneuvers in the exercise area covering such missions as joint escort, joint rescue the hijacked ship, a joint verification of identification and joint air, sea assault on joint exercises and other subjects.

Here are some snapshots of what has taken place so far

Chinese and Russian warships lined a single column appeared and began firing drills.

More ships sailing in single line.

Russian warships appeared.

Chinese and Russian warships lined up in a column appeared, ready for sea, air and underwater targets firing.

Destroyer "Zhengzhou" , the supply ship "Qiandaohu"  and destroyer "Ningbo"

Ship missile destroyer Harbin firing guns

Missile destroyer Ningbo.

Missile destroyer Ningbo fires its auxiliary ship-to-air gunds

Missile destroyer Ningbo firing its gun

Resulting rocket depth

Russian cruiser Varyag, flagship of the Pacific fleet

Russian warship Admiral Panteleev

Varyag again, with Ka-27 helicopter in background

Liuzhou ship missile frigate conducting real fire drill. At 8:00 on the 24th of May, the first surface ship fleet ship missile destroyer Ningbo, again sounding the alarm combat exercises, joint anti-submarine exercises in full swing. The formation was composed of three warships conducting the submarine search.

The Zhengzhou missile destroyer first discovered the "enemy" submarines, reported the fleet command, guiding Russia "Admiral Panteleyev" large anti-submarine ship-borne helicopters sent successfully implemented on the target submarine attack.

Source: mil.cnr.cn

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Sat, 05/24/2014 - 16:27 | 4791728 Stuck on Zero
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I believe the millitary exercise was called: "Sink da Amedican Freet."

 

Sat, 05/24/2014 - 16:30 | 4791732 svayambhu108
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China need to be sure that she can take her money back, imagine how hard is for Gazprom to take 3.4 billions from Ukraine, multiply that by 1000 de amount of money, and 1000 de amount of miles

Sat, 05/24/2014 - 16:31 | 4791735 knukles
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This Just In

Cannon blast and sound barrier overpressure, leads to thousands of broken windows, Krugman disabled with massive woody

Sat, 05/24/2014 - 16:32 | 4791740 max2205
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Ihow wok photoshop

Sat, 05/24/2014 - 16:40 | 4791748 So What
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Joint military activities are full of shit. Unless you have binding treaty, it's nonsense. Will Russia go to war with China against the US? Not a chance. All these joint activities do is to let them gauge one another's capability. The Russians are probably thinking; these Chinese are nothing, they can be taken down really easily.
They're allies until they are not. Just look at the fifties and sixties.

Sat, 05/24/2014 - 16:43 | 4791756 outofideas
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So is this what people with no aircraft carriers do to show strength?

I'm not saying the US navy is invincible, but sailing some cruisers and destroyers in a line in shooting deck guns at detritus does not make a particular threatening scene

Sat, 05/24/2014 - 17:02 | 4791779 Anusocracy
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Photos of most ships are just advertisements for future fish condominiums.

Sat, 05/24/2014 - 17:12 | 4791803 kliguy38
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Nuland to Kerry......"we're gonna need a bigger boat"

Sat, 05/24/2014 - 17:57 | 4791892 mjcOH1
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"I believe the millitary exercise was called: "Sink da Amedican Freet.""

Thank you for your cooperation in SUBPACFLT exercise 2014 "Happy Lucky Golden Putin".   We were not here.   You did not see us.

Have a fortune cookie.    And a Baltika.   Same time, next year.

Sat, 05/24/2014 - 20:20 | 4792181 RevRex
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It's a good thing BathHouse Barry and the other great negro thinkers of the day are ready to preserve America's place of leadership in the world......oh wait, that wasn't in 'Dreams From My Father'.....

Sat, 05/24/2014 - 21:56 | 4792387 jeff montanye
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with regard to the comparison of missile destroyers and aircraft carriers, i am reminded of the day that will live in infamy, when the battleships, stars of ww1, were attacked at port while the carriers, stars to be of ww2, were at sea on "exercises".

how many russian missile destroyers can be built for one u.s. aircraft carrier? between four and eight.

 

Sun, 05/25/2014 - 02:16 | 4792463 Lore
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Anybody else read some of the comments and get the feeling that a few posters are plants intended to make ZHers seem like a bunch of lamebrains?

Sun, 05/25/2014 - 09:18 | 4792982 Bendromeda Strain
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Nah, there are some legit bubbleheads on here I would imagine. These guys see ships as nothing more than targets, but isn't it ridiculous to assume that our subs weren't being tracked by - wait for it - their subs? They had to know we would be in the area - it was pure catnip.

Sun, 05/25/2014 - 02:24 | 4792750 boogerbently
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Did Russia send it's entire fleet of O N E aircraft carrier ?

Sat, 05/24/2014 - 20:30 | 4792208 docmac324
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All above photos taken courtsey of SSBN Alabama.

Sat, 05/24/2014 - 21:37 | 4792344 NoDebt
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That's probably not going to be a popular comment around here, but I gave you an up-arrow.

There does seem to be a bit of a "hey, look how badass we are!" element to this.  More to the point, this is the follow-up to the recent pipeline deal.  "Hey, look how much on the same side we are!"  They're not gearing up to take on the US Navy, they're making a joint political statement.

 

Sat, 05/24/2014 - 22:02 | 4792395 Drifter
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They don't plan taking on the US navy.  Just The US dollar.  Much easier target, very exposed, no protection, even sabotaged by its owners.

"We'll just kill the dollar."  Americans said that.  Russia/China just help the process along.

Once the dollar is sunk, US navy can't operate anymore.  Nor the army, marines, air force, special forces, CIA, black ops, al-CIAda, regime change, and all the rest of the US govt.

And no shots fired.  Not one.  Silent currency war, US loses easily, dollar is our weakest point.

Sat, 05/24/2014 - 22:41 | 4792466 Lore
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You nailed it. The greatest threat to the security of the American people is the financial complex.

Sun, 05/25/2014 - 09:21 | 4792987 Bendromeda Strain
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Ding ding ding - they aren't looking to provoke anything beyond "we will not be bullied by your putrid dollar". It's certainly true that Bretton Woods survived longer than it should have on the back of gunboat diplomacy. Well, here is some right back at us...

Sat, 05/24/2014 - 23:27 | 4792559 813kml
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At some point the US will be in the position of "use it or lose it" and there will be shots fired, probably many.  The dollar will not go gentle into that good night.

Sat, 05/24/2014 - 23:59 | 4792603 Spitzer
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Thats what everyone thought about the Soviet military too....One morning it turned into an arms bazaar.

Sun, 05/25/2014 - 01:01 | 4792674 813kml
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The major difference is that the ruble wasn't reserve currency, there are still a few more tricks up the FED's sleeve to keep reality at bay a while longer.  The US spent trillions building a siege apparatus to protect dollar hegemony, it will get used at some point.

Sun, 05/25/2014 - 09:24 | 4792991 Bendromeda Strain
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The FED has built the world's largest Iron Maiden, and will deploy it on us in due time.

Sun, 05/25/2014 - 00:07 | 4792617 Savyindallas
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you may be right. get ready for ARMEGGEDON.  The End of Days could happen soon. The maniacs are in control.

Sun, 05/25/2014 - 00:04 | 4792608 Aussie V
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The best way to destroy the Capitalist system is to debauch the currency

Vladimir Lenin

Sat, 05/24/2014 - 23:17 | 4792539 Spanky
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For...

SSBN Alabama would be nowhere near those exercises for the obvious reason. The fact that you don't know why simply shows how uninformed your comment is...

Sun, 05/25/2014 - 01:18 | 4792691 imbtween
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he was joking. he just forgot the /sarcasm tag.

Sun, 05/25/2014 - 09:26 | 4792996 Bendromeda Strain
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Exactly - everybody knows that Alabama is on the Gulf of Mexico. Some people, huh?

Sat, 05/24/2014 - 17:39 | 4791857 blentus
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The whole point is - there are no aircraft carriers there.

If you don't understand why, you really shouldn't comment on it.

Sun, 05/25/2014 - 00:17 | 4792632 Seek_Truth
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Aircraft carriers are so 20th century.

Weapons technology has drastically changed the way war is conducted (excluding 3rd world "threats").

Sun, 05/25/2014 - 13:37 | 4792718 MrPalladium
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Aircraft carriers are floating coffins. I compare them to Pershings horse calvalry at Fort Jackson just before WWII. In fact all surface vessels will be floating coffins in the next major war.

Ballistic anti ship missiles, satellite weapons, submarines and drones will achive quick global dominance of the seas.

Sat, 05/24/2014 - 17:47 | 4791868 wanderintheland
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Hmmm. That was a blind spot in my knowledge, until now:

We (US) got 10 in service, 2 in reserve, and 3 under construction.

Russia and China both have one (with only China having another under construction).

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_aircraft_carriers_by_country

Sat, 05/24/2014 - 18:15 | 4791919 angel_of_joy
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Aircraft carriers are obsolete. They are too vulnerable in case of conflict. Americans are using them to show off but they know very well that an adversary like China or Russia would sink most of them in the first days of a serious conflict.

The future lies in small stealthier ships, and high speed long range missiles (and torpedoes). From the first weeks of the Falkland War it was clear that the days of the big ships are gone. Carriers are just big fat targets of opportunity, waiting to be hit & sunk... just like battleships during WWII.

Sat, 05/24/2014 - 18:38 | 4791963 Gaius Frakkin' ...
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My armchair strategery leads me to believe aircraft carriers are convenient for taking on 2nd rate powers... and that's about it.

Sat, 05/24/2014 - 18:51 | 4791988 Matt
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Even then, in a war game simulating a battle with Iran in the Strait of Hormuz, it was shown that small fast attack boats could be loaded with explosives and ram the aircraft carriers. Really only useful in totally one-sided conflicts where the enemy cannot get anything in the air or into the water.

Sat, 05/24/2014 - 22:03 | 4792402 jeff montanye
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i.e what "our" commander in chief understands to be the definition of war.  i.e. the circumstances under which he has found, to his modest surprise, that he is really good at killing people.

perhaps he should put an extensively detailed book about the battle of stalingrad on his night table.

Sat, 05/24/2014 - 22:02 | 4792403 ObamaDepression
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You're not even close to correct.

But in a real conflict a US carrier would not be in such a small space as the Persian Gulf, which might explain why they were stationed to the South and West (Mediteranian) during both Guld Wars.

Sat, 05/24/2014 - 22:37 | 4792434 Drifter
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Era of aircraft carrier speriority is over thanks to hypersonic ship-killing missiles, which Russia/China happen to be quite advanced at.  Surface-skimming radar-evading, US carriers wouldn't even see 'em coming.

It's the missile era now, and US is the knife at the gun fight, still stuck in carrier mode.  We spend hundreds of billions developing new carrier-based fighters (so multi-task they don't work well for any particular task), while Russia/China develop advanced missiles to sink that carrier those new multi-task fighters must come back and land on. 

And then there's Ruusia's new supersonic torpedo.  Underwater missile.  US ships totally indefensable against it, especially those big slow carriers.

Sat, 05/24/2014 - 22:50 | 4792487 Lore
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Fellow truth seeker, you are at this very moment in the midst of the most important battleground: the Battle For The Mind. Fortunately for us, truth is the natural enemy of psychopaths.

Sun, 05/25/2014 - 00:06 | 4792614 medium giraffe
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Moar pheer!  Cower, mortals.

Sat, 05/24/2014 - 22:49 | 4792491 potato
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What about those guns whose computers can target an immense number of targets (maybe 32 or even more?). it's all over youtube. A .5cal through the engine block, and the "fast ship" loses propulsion.

Sun, 05/25/2014 - 00:20 | 4792637 Seek_Truth
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Ever heard of EMP?

Apparently not.

Sun, 05/25/2014 - 05:01 | 4792848 IronForge
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Carriers probably won't be in the Gulf in a conflict vs Iran.

They weren't "in there" during the Iran-Iraq War for similar reasons.

 

Sat, 05/24/2014 - 18:57 | 4792003 Itgoestoeleven
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If we can get them into a chineese or Russian port and then sunk we can contaminate the entire area. Carriers are nothing more than mobile fukushimas.

Sat, 05/24/2014 - 19:16 | 4792041 snowlywhite
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your armchair strategy is... armchairish.

 

in any conflict carried out in a "blue water" environment(not close to coast where you can provide support with land based airforce) carriers > everything else. You have air support, the other side is sitting duck. You'd be like the Kaisermarine in WW1.

 

even without carriers, the us navy has more firepower than chinese + russian navies combined(it still puzzles me why Russia insists in sinking money in a navy despite not needing one). That without counting RN/rest of Commonwealth navies or the japanese navy.

 

Those navies are a worst joke than the Kaisermarine. At least that could go out a couple of hundred miles from Wilhelmshaven to Heligoland. These can't, since they'd be outside air support...

Sat, 05/24/2014 - 19:33 | 4792094 angel_of_joy
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Blue water air support is on its way to meet the Dodo bird.

Aircraft themselves are vulnerable to missiles. Carriers, even more so. You can add torpedoes to that.

On top of everything conventional, one low yield tactical nuke could wipe out an entire Task Force centered around a carrier. You will not nuke an enemy city to answer such an attack, unless you are ready for a total war of anihilation. The good old days of USN roaming the seas with impunity are long gone.

Your analysis was pretty good... about 70 years ago !

Sat, 05/24/2014 - 22:02 | 4792405 RafterManFMJ
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Golly, no one brings up the DF-21D?

VIA Wiki:

China has reportedly developed and tested its first anti-ship ballistic missile (ASBM) called DF-21D, with a maximum range exceeding 1,450 kilometres (900 mi), according to the U.S. National Air and Space Intelligence Center. The Intelligence Center did not believe it was deployed in 2009.[9] The guidance system is thought to be still in an evolutionary process as more UAV and satellites are added.[11]

The US Department of Defense stated in 2010 that China has developed and reached initial operating capability [12] of a conventionally armed[13] high hypersonic[14] land-based anti-ship ballistic missile based on the DF-21. This would be its first ASBM and weapon system capable of targeting a moving aircraft carrier strike group from long-range, land-based mobile launchers...

Sat, 05/24/2014 - 22:51 | 4792495 indygo55
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Yeah but all these expensive carriers and support ships are really good for the Military Industrial Complex. They make billions on this shit. Thats the plan and that seems to be all that matters. These Washington morons just cannot see past their own complexes. 

Sun, 05/25/2014 - 00:12 | 4792626 angel_of_joy
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Bingo ! We have a winner...

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