Power-Sharing, As Un-American As Humble Pie

Tyler Durden's picture

Submitted by Ben Tanosborn via Tanosborn.com,

It could be in the nature of those holding power, irrespective of ethnicity or other set apart characteristics; but power-sharing in today’s America, or yesterday’s for that matter, does not have much of a following.  Compromise in the international arena is basically reserved for dead-end situations where force majeure doesn’t allow Americans to impose their will, such as grudgingly accepting MAD (Mutually Assured Destruction) during these past five decades.  Does any student of the global body politic think for a minute that Russia would be standing today free from the claws of the American empire were it not for US’s fear that militarily attacking her would reduce us all to ashes?
 
On the eve of presidential elections in Ukraine we find ourselves at a loss as to what might be happening after the votes are counted and a new government takes the reins in Kiev.  Vladimir Putin must be confident that whoever oligarch gets elected will have sufficient common sense to negotiate with its big sibling to the east and assure her that she won’t be raped by the United States with the EU-NATO preparing the rendezvous stage.  Or at least Putin is making it clear to Petro Poroshenko, the candidate likely to succeed as projected by pollsters (possibly without the need for a June 15 runoff), and a dozen and a half other candidates, that Russia’s government will respect the will of the Ukrainian people… “while the elections are closely watched.”
 
Contrary to blatant propaganda ignited by an insincere West (the US and NATO nations), Putin’s government has no intention of enlarging the Russian Federation with Ukrainian Real Estate, Crimea being an isolated and key military bastion in the Black Sea which needed to return to the Motherland.  All Putin, and overwhelmingly the Russian people, are after is the assurance of a buffer state in Ukraine without US missiles pointing at Moscow, and that implies a nation that would not join NATO, and some form of regional confederation that will allow the Russia-friendly eastern part of Ukraine to keep balance of power in Kiev.

 

 
Russia has provided economic help to Ukraine in the form of energy subsidies and a strong bilateral trade, probably as reward for much for her neutrality in the East-West competitive face-off as for the two nations common ancestry and heritage.  It would seem as insane for Russia to take on, willingly, the economic problems associated with bringing Ukraine to the Federation… not even the current secessionist areas of Donetsk and Luhansk.
 
Poroshenko has often suggested that Ukraine joining NATO would not be such a good idea.  And several other candidates appear to agree with that assessment.  It is Yulia Tymoshenko, the loud Fatherland voice and mother-hen of the extreme right (so-called fascists in pejorative terms), that is clearly committed to a marriage with the West without failing to recognize that a marriage still exists between Russia and Ukraine… and that trying to force a divorce to allow Ukraine’s remarriage may bring dire consequences for everyone in Yulia’s beloved Fatherland.
 
Current polls give her less than 10 percent of the vote; however, if a runoff is required she could command perhaps as much as a third of the vote… perhaps even more.  And, although that would not elevate her to the presidency, it could create political chaos since the present leadership in Euromaidan has served notice that the government to be elected had better meet their demands, which include major clean-up in economic and political corruption… and closer ties to the European Union.  Meeting those demands in a nation corruptly-ran by fewer than a dozen oligarchs represents more a formidable task… perhaps an impossible task.  Unlike Putin, who was able to subdue the Russian oligarchy, Poroshenko doesn’t appear to possess the leadership to do quite the same thing in Ukraine.
 
And that, unfortunately, leaves the door open to a possible civil war… and Russia’s foregone intrusion to safeguard her own interests.
 
Meantime our neocon-infested State Department and the Pentagon continue to provide imprimatur to America’s corporate media to propagate lies demonizing Putin and Russia and glorifying our American empire.  Yet, we are the folks who started the entire mess in Ukraine.
 
Our forefathers must be turning in their graves!  Unfortunately, power-sharing is proving to be as un-American as humble pie.

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kchrisc's picture

"Must bake more cookies."

Newsboy's picture

US Special forces and commandos from 16 countries practiced invading Tampa Florida.

"Power sharing"?

http://www.globalresearch.ca/domestic-urban-warfare-u-s-special-forces-a...

0b1knob's picture

Something going on in LA too.   I saw 6 Chinook helicopters fly over in formation Thursday.

jbvtme's picture

Tampa...and the slack jaws watched and took pictures like they were at disney world...

August's picture

“If you see military helicopters flying over downtown Tampa next Tuesday, it’s not a sign that we are under attack by the Russians, the North Koreans or the New World Order,” said The Tampa Tribune.

Two out of three's not bad.

palmereldritch's picture

Say...the helicopters in that picture are black...

Son of Captain Nemo's picture

'US Special forces and commandos from 16 countries practiced invading Tampa Florida.

"Power sharing"?"...

Yeah and to top off that bit of news that you just provided?  We know of course this will be the fair and clean election the UN and NATO is famousfor ... Certainly hope Debold has their voting machines to make the unelected/hijacked Junta's free and fair election process the success we know it will be!!! 

http://rt.com/news/160264-rt-banned-entry-ukraine/

 

Son of Captain Nemo's picture

NO

More made in the U.S.A.  Bet they're mercs from Academi...

Lest we forget, this is what PFC Manning went to prison for life for releasing the video of a "double tapping" that involved journalists in Iraq!

kchrisc's picture

I like the effort they go through to fake that they are trying to repel an "invasion." They know, and we know, that we are already here.

"...it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such government..."

 

"I disguised my guillotine as an oil derrick."

Son of Captain Nemo's picture

On the issue of "power sharing"...

I think either Zero Hedge or GW need to promote this campaign to urge Russia on to tell the World once and for all who did "it"!

Nothing like a little "Truthseeker" to start pushing your world in the right direction along with "de-dollarization"!

Not like the lemming Nation called America even with the help of AE/911 Truth were ever going to get the job done! 

Let's face it...

It takes a "nuclear superpower" being threatened by another "nuclear superpower" to pull it off!

Bet China and India stay out of this one for obvious reasons given their involvement!

Jack Burton's picture

Great link Captain Nemo! I saw the Truthseeker a few months back make an epic exposure of the role of Western NGOs inside Russia, Ukraine and across other nations seen as not following Washington's agenda. He followed the money and followed the actual personel that the NGO's hire. The entire Western NGO agenda is written and directed by the CIA and US State Department. They use highly paid locals as 5th columnists who turn traitor for money. This is a tactic to spead Washington's influence, and has been used to the tune of 5 billions dollars in payouts to Ukrainians. Like the Euro Maidan protestors, they were being paid 40-50 Euros a day via NGOs to work full time as professional protestors. They were even paid before Euro Maidan broke out, during their time in Polish and Baltic training camps. In this way, an army of NGO funded professional protestors could be kept on call to respond to orders from Wahington DC.

Well, it goes way beyond Ukraine. NGO's are a world wide branch of the CIA.

Son of Captain Nemo's picture

Isn't it wonderful when Americans and Jews get together to make comedy gold out of genocide?...  I'm sure about 100 years ago out West there were stand up comedians in the Saloons of the day like Larry David delivering the same "Schtick"... Replace Navajo and Apache with Palestinian!

Keep an eye on the History Channel and PBS. 

You know somethings on it's way when they break out the Holocaust again for all to see even only 3 months after pictures of Vicky Nuland at the U.S. State Department is seen with the newly installed temporary-of-course Svoboda and Right Sector bosses popping-up!

ObamaDepression's picture

I seem to recall the USSR starving millions of Ukrainians to death.

Perhaps you can replace Navajo with Ukranians and US with Soviets.

Son of Captain Nemo's picture

"I seem to recall the USSR starving millions of Ukrainians to death.

Perhaps you can replace Navajo with Ukranians and US with Soviets."....

OD

Glad you raised that point.  Same "schtick" from the West.

I believe it was a wandering comedy troup from England and France called the The "Bubby Brothers Rothschild" that did that one as well!

Jack Burton's picture

You think the USSR only starved and killed Ukrainians? This was part of the collectivization of Agriculture under the Georgian dictator Stalin. Ukraine suffered worst only because it was the largest area of peasant agriculture. The killing went on everywhere private farming was taking place, all across ethinc Russia lands as well. The labor death camps were jammed full of all ethnic groups seen as a threat to the USSR.

In 1941, the Germany invasion of Ukraine unleashed an epic assault on jews by the local Ukrainian populations. Many concentration camp guards and death squad members were drawn from Western Ukraine. Germany recruited an SS division from West Ukraine. One reason the jews were such targets in 1941 was because of the heavy presence of jews in the communist party. And during the collectivzation of agriculture, there were many urban jews communists who formed the collectivization battlions who went into the country side to steal food and arrest peasants. Churches were also leveled by the same groups during the great terror and starvation.

This is all basic history, but since American children do not learn history in public schools, it is natural that they would know little of these events. It is not their fault. America has no use for people with historical knowledge, those knowing nothing are easier to manipulate and control to support Washington's neo-con fascism.

 

teslaberry's picture

i think the problem is that many anti-semites consider all jews bankers and don't like the narrative that jews were in fact slaughtered. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Babi_Yar

 

they dislike being reminded of this, because they know, RIGHTLY SO. that the jews (of which I am one) place too much emphasis on their own genocide at the expense of many other groups---crowding out the 'sympathy play' in mass media. 

 

realitic view of history is that ALL GROUPS GET KILLED> MAJORITIES< MINORITIES< RICH, POOR, KINGS, SLAVES. TO ONE EXTENT OR ANOHTER VIOLENCE VISITES ALL GROUPS OVER TIME---ITS JUST A MATTER OF WHEN. 

unfortunately this reality of trans--human appreciation of murder doesn't really work well with any narrative of placing one human being, let alone one group, over another. AND THIS TRANSHUMAN REALITY IS BORN OF A WIDE HISTORICAL VIEW. whereas-----most people, anti-semite and jew lover and everyone who could care less-----are almost exclusively concerned with ONLY the present. they don't care to understand the wider context of humanity. only the here and now. YOU ARE EITHER WITH US OR AGAINST MINDSET that is so easily sold over television. you cannot love or fear history, but you can be easily tricked into tribalism or made to fear the infiltrators---no matter which group you are in. jew, non jew, jesuit, atheist, white black, yellow red blue, polka dots. 

 

the politics of victimization, and the politics of tribalism, nationalism etc....all weave a web of emotional frameworks meant to increase some leader , somewherer's, power---to the detriment of the individual who is tricked or willling participates in dedicating the power of his identification with--and then to---the greater cause to which he sees himself supplicant.

 

and the opposite notion---that we are all one human species comprised of near identical individuals, and all should work together, is also obvious horseshit globalist universalist religious nonsense. there is no universal culture, universal morality, universal identity. even the very notion of the 'family' is not universal. although it's probably as close as you can get. perhaps even more-so the mother-child relationship is as close as you can get to defining universalism. because it is rooted in an immutable animal power--the ability of the womb to create life----and the relationships stemming from pregancy birth and breast-feeding. and yet, some women will kill their newborns and some won't. so even women--in their most common role as mothers---- are not all 'the same'.

genetically, we are not all the same. some human beings are taller , shorter, SICKER< HEALTHIER---all FROM BIRTH. 

THE LOGIC OF DIVERSITY AND TOLERANCE DOES NOT REALLY FULLY INTEGRATE WITH THE LOGIC OF UNIVERSALISM. it is a PARADOX. how can we respect the healthier individual when we ask him for more of his money and wealth to pay for the sicker person? we are not respecting his difference, we are holding it AGAINST HIM. BY ATTEMPTING TO HOLD A UNIVERSAL STANDARD ABOVE EVERYONE'S HEAD. 

 

this PARADOX IS NOT A BAD THING. IT UNDERLAYS THE PARADOX OF HUMANITY AND OF BEING CIVILIZED AND NOT BEHAVING LIKE THE ANIMALS WE ARE. 

while the notiong of 'ORIGINAL SIN' IS perhaps rooted in many nonsense religous supersitituous fantasies devised by various preists and leaders------it DOES INDEED MAKE SENSE FROM THE PURELY SECURLARIST NATURAL WORLD VIEW---WHICH IS THAT TO BE MORE HUMAN---WE MUST  CHOOSE TO BE LESS ANIMALISTIC TOWARDS ONE ANOTHER AS HUMAN BEINGS WHO POSSESS VERY DIFFERENT NATURAL GIFTS AND HISTORIES, AND CULTURES AND EVERYTHING ELSE.

FORCING EVERYONE TO BE THE SAME IS JUST ANOTHER EXTREME FORM OF THE DESIRE FOR DOMINANCE, AND NATURALLY LEADS TO THOSE WHO CANNOT BE MADE THE SAME------TO BE MARGINALIZED AND SUMMARILY DEHUMANIZED---TO BE TREATED LIKE AN ANIMAL AND KILLED OFF FOR BEING TOO DIFFERENT TO FIT IN.

 

dsty's picture

actually the problem is sin, original sin at the root, not made up, it is the way we are

we are looking at the end of all that, on our own we are doomed

but there is hope, and it isn't in man, it is not made up but real

all this did not happen by mere chance, no way

Sean7k's picture

Nice rant and I up arrowed it, which I normally wouldn't do- why? The term anti-semite is a propaganda pejorative of choice for the jews.However, I did enjoy your view on history and being mindful of a longer viewpoint. Probably didn't need to yell at the end. 

teslaberry's picture

yea sorry bout all caps. 

the politics of victimization could not be possible but for the fact that victimization does in fact exist. racism exists , genocides, and everything else exists. the world isn't fair and the politics of 'unfairness' exploits the anger that results from confronting this unfairness. 

 

more useful is learning the philosphy of stoicism and accepting the world is unfair and finding productive methods of dealing with that reality. sometimes, there are few choices but to fight or flight from an unfair system. the former rarely is useful to individual who fights, but only to the group at large that has a small chance of benefiting from a potential win, but a huge upside should they get their way. the flight strategy is extremely productive. 

the refugee dynamic is one that defines human history. moses, mohammed, and even jesus to some extent--(as a traveller) all refugees. all nomads. the pilgrims. the quakers. other german protestant groups. that had formed early american groups. they too in turn created problems for native americans. the cycle of history is in some way a cycle of misery, and what is left, are those who survive and the narratives they bring with them.

i only use these examples to show how productive 'running away' can be for people and communities. 

New Ordnance's picture

In September of 1932 Stalin seized all food in the Ukraine. The ample grain harvest was collected and sold to the West. 10 million Ukraines starved to death in the winter of 1932-33.

Lest these events remain a studied abstraction, the visceral reality can be experienced in "The Soviet Story" embedded down the scroll here.

 

Volkodav's picture

Same was in Russia and Kazakhstan.

significant fact left out of the western narrative which is twisted to blame Russians instead of the real culprits.

Truth is that Russian people suffered more than any.

New Ordnance's picture

The real culprits in my view are the monsters who orchestrate these conflicts, playing tyrants of the West againts tyrants of the East. The ensnared populations of both sides are the cannon fodder that feed the dialectic.

LeftyGoldblatt's picture

The Unknown Eastern Front: The Wehrmacht and Hitler's Foreign Soldiers

By Rolf-Dieter [Professor of Military History at Humboldt University, Berlin]

(28 Feb 2014)

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Eastern-Front-Wehrmacht-Hitlers-Soldiers/dp/1780768907

Excerpt from Chapter 18 – Ukraine

The total number of Ukrainians bearing arms for the German war effort is estimated at 250,000.

Some units were lucky to be called ‘Galician’, because the Western Powers declared them a ‘Polish outfit’ and did not turn them over to Stalin but interned them in Rimini.

Upon their release, many of them emigrated to Canada or the United States, where large Ukrainian communities emerged which upheld the idea of an independent homeland.

Some of these immigrants were paid a visit by public prosecutors as late as the 1980s and 1990s for lying about their military service with the Germans or for being suspected of war crimes.

Volkodav's picture

Soviet was never a Russian construct

From 1917 thru Stalin was never Russians in control

Stalin was not a Russian

Kruschev was Ukrainian

better worry about your own country

sti100's picture

HITLER was AUSTRIAN !

Does it mean Germany has NO fault for WWII?

Volkodav's picture

Ignorant post.

Only the thinking, intelligent and honest will know who starts wars..

Better look the real culprits...

intric8's picture

We started it, no question.

Conventional wisdom for any #1 world power is to have #2 and #3 squabbling with each other to limit their powers.

#2 and #3 just teamed up against #1

Miffed Microbiologist's picture

Psychopaths never share power. To expect such behavior is to deny the reality what game is really being played here.

Miffed;-)

BOPOH's picture

Russia has it mission, and always had - saving te world, when no one can.

sti100's picture

I will welcome anybody who will  save use from corrupt and unfair state structures, government, banksters/oligarchs..... and to help us become more free and self responsible people.

But please Russia do not save us like previously East Germany (vs. West Germany ), East EU (vs. West EU ), North Korea/Vietnam ( vs South Korea, Hongkong, Taiwan ), Kuba (vs. north America )

There is a good reason why East EU states ( former members of USSR led Warshaw pact ), Baltic states wanted to join NATO. I believe they feel now much safer (than Ukrainians) as they see Russian military exercises around Ukraine. Russia shows now that it could be a real danger for their neighbors.

 

TheFourthStooge-ing's picture

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Russia shows now that it could be a real danger for their neighbors.

The current situation infirms this possibility.

You are free to remain confused but Russia is not the USSR. Never was.

That factual observation... hard under the belt blow for most propagandists in here.

Before that, you have a bulk of points, where everything is difficult to systematize.

ebworthen's picture

Proposal to let NATO into Ukraine = Russian tanks roll.

Dumbest, idea, ever.  But so was the West backing a neo-Nazi putsch in Kiev.

What will these impending "elections" be about?  The elected ruler was deposed in the coup.

Any new President will have less validity than the former one, especially with Ukrainian troops attacking voters in the East.

q99x2's picture

You cannot include the 50 states outside of Washington D.C. as the United States when you mean Washington D.C. They are two very different societies.

lakecity55's picture

DC is almost the polar opposite of We The people who work and try to do the Right Thing.

litemine's picture

This may be true but until You get it together and do something........anyone else would justify the American Elite to escalate what they are doing already............NO?

ObamaDepression's picture

With all respect to the author, his statment is both laughable and outlandish. He wrote:

Contrary to blatant propaganda ignited by an insincere West (the US and NATO nations), Putin’s government has no intention of enlarging the Russian Federation with Ukrainian Real Estate, Crimea being an isolated and key military bastion in the Black Sea which needed to return to the Motherland.  All Putin, and overwhelmingly the Russian people, are after is the assurance of a buffer state in Ukraine without US missiles pointing at Moscow

So we are to believe that the invasion of Georgia to the East and Crimea to the West was not an enlargement of Russia? The facts say otherwise.

Putin and Russian just want assurances of a buffer state without missiles? Last I checked Obama started his administration by cancelling missile defense in Poland. Georgia was never a candidate for US missile defense. So what has changed in 5 years? A more aggressive Russia taking advantage of a weak US President to rebuild the Soviet Empire.

I completely understand other country's dislike of US hegemony and destructive economic policies. But this analysis is both dissingenuous and belies the facts.

I have no dog in this fight. I'm not "cheering" for East or West. I'm cheering for freedom and democracy. Ukraine will find true freedom neither with Nato nor Russia.

BOPOH's picture

Typical representative of a shallow american mind

Volkodav's picture

da   normal is a mile wide and an inch deep...

InspectorBird's picture

Exactly, its sad to see that ZH and so many other alternative news sites display this as black and white, good and bad. And because US/West is corrupt to the core then that MUST mean that Russia/East is automatically all good. In reality its not black and white at all. Every situation must be examined objectively and East can engage is deception, lies and propaganda just as much as West. And no, im not some "dumb american", i actually live in former republic of USSR and speak fluent Russian...

The fact is that every superpower is after their own interests and they dont care if they have to lie, kill, etc. 

ObamaDepression's picture

I wish ZH would just disclose what interests (if any) they have in Russia given their reporting on this issue.

My previous ID (Missiondweller) was banned after 4+ years after I objected to pro-Russian/ anti-American posts. I was given neither an explanaition nor a warning. My account was just deleted.

Though I appreciate being able to post once again, I think the ZH readers deserve some type of disclosure. If the writers are Russian, fine, at least I know where they're coming from.

sti100's picture

I used to read ZH because I do not want to eat only official propaganda.

I do not want US/ EU/ Russian or any other propaganda. I wish here well balanced information.

But my feeling is that US/Russia related political articles is similar what I'm reading from Russian propaganda. It could be clearly observed that on ZH all pro Russia (anti West ) is described as good,and anti Russia (pro West ) is described wrong.

I'm sure ZH readers deserves more balanced information.

JR's picture

These warmonger phrases, “invasion of Georgia to the East and Crimea to the West" for the "enlargement of Russia" are false, of course. But more than that, they are falsehoods of war whereby literally millions have died when patriotism is ignited by deception and lies that have created endless war.

The fact is, it was the Georgian president who aggressively rolled into Tskhinvali, capital of tiny South Ossetia, as an occupier and contrary to what the warmongers say, it was Putin who came to these people’s rescue.

In August 2008, as the world's leaders gathered in Beijing for the Olympic games, it was Georgian President Mikheil Saakashvili, ”hot-headed and erratic,” who made the first move, fighting over Takhinvali. As Pat Buchanan wrote at the time:

“It began with a stunning artillery barrage on Tskhinvali, capital of tiny South Ossetia, a province that had broken free of Tbilisi when Tbilisi broke free of Russia. As Ossetians and Russian peacekeepers fell under the Georgian guns, terrified Ossetians fled into Russia.

“Saakashvili's blitzkrieg appeared to have triumphed.

“Until, that is, Russian armor, on Vladimir Putin's orders, came thundering down the Roki Tunnel into Ossetia, sending Saakashvili's army reeling. The Georgians were driven out of Ossetia and expelled from a second province that had broken free of Tbilisi: Abkhazia.

“The Russians then proceeded to bomb Tbilisi, capture Gori, birthplace of Joseph Stalin, and bomb Georgian airfields rumored to be the forward bases for the Israelis in any pre-emptive strike on Iran.”

Said Buchanan:” What made this war of interest to Americans, however, was that Bush had long sought to bring Georgia into NATO. Only the resistance of Old Europe had prevented it.

“And had Georgia been a member of NATO when Saakashvili began his war, U.S. Marines and Special Forces might have been on the way to the Caucasus to confront Russian troops in a part of the world where there is no vital U.S. interest and never has been any U.S. strategic interest whatsoever.”

Days later, there came another startling discovery.

McCain’s Jewish foreign policy adviser, Randy Scheunemann, had been paid $290,000 by the Saakashvili regime, from January 2007 to March 2008, to get Georgia into NATO, and thus acquire a priceless U.S. war guarantee to fight on Georgia's side in any clash with Russia.

lakecity55's picture

McPain is a fuckin whore.

August's picture

You are, in truth, giving whores a bad name.

ObamaDepression's picture

Oh I see, I'm mistaken. Georgia and Crimea invaded Russia right?

 

And I'm a war monger for pointing out the facts!

Volkodav's picture

Georgia killed Russian Peacekeepers and murdered South Ossetian civilians including Russian citizens.

South Ossetians are completely different people from Georrgians.

Stalin was a Georgian.

Crimea? yes I suppose you could say Crimea invaded Russia..

or returned home...

Crimea huge majority voted to leave Ukraine and requested to be joined Russian Federation.

Crimea is still celebrating.

Your biased ignorance is showing