US Is "Wrong, Plain And Simple" On German-Russia Relations, Warns Schaeuble

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Speaking like a jilted girlfriend, German finance minister Wolfgang Schaeuble exclaimed that "Russia needs Europe more than China to develop economy," following the signing of the 'holy grail' gas deal this week. But the German saved his sternest comments for his US "allies" as he explained discussions over sanctions and negotiations with Russia over Ukrains would "be even more successful if the United States understands that it is also part of the West."

Reflecting on the waning US influence and slamming US Congress delays over IMF reform, Schaeuble unleashed the following: "Perhaps now more of those in power in the United States will ask themselves: Why is America's soft power, even though it is the indispensable nation, not so great as to be understood by the dumb Germans?"

As the WSJ reports, Schaeuble reiterated "we won't seek military escalation, but we will of course use our political and diplomatic abilities to increase the pressure on Russia to abide by the rules."

 

As WSJ reports, German Finance Minister Wolfgang Schäuble said his country is prepared to raise pressure on Russia to help stabilize Ukraine, sending a signal on the eve of Ukraine's presidential election that Europe's leading economic power isn't shy of confronting Moscow.

"We want good, partner-like relations," Mr. Schäuble said in an interview with The Wall Street Journal. But he warned: "If Russia does not follow the rules, then we won't seek military escalation, but we will of course use our political and diplomatic abilities to increase the pressure on it to abide by the rules."

 

The veteran conservative minister, seen as Germany's second most powerful politician after Chancellor Angela Merkel, dismissed criticisms in the U.S. that Berlin's response to the Ukraine conflict is hostage to German business interests as "wrong, plain and simple."

 

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The Ukraine crisis is highlighting Germany's growing pains as it becomes a leader in geopolitics, Mr. Schäuble admitted. He called on the U.S. to work harder to win public trust in Europe.

 

"We, of course, need to make clear that we are part of the West," Mr. Schäuble said, in response to signs that many Germans don't fully support their country's Western alliance. "But we'll be even more successful if the United States understands that it is also part of the West."

 

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But he said it also reflected waning U.S. influence here, something that had to do with Washington's reluctance to ratify and uphold international agreements in areas including finance. He blamed the U.S. Congress for frustrating reform of the International Monetary Fund, for example.

 

"Perhaps now more of those in power in the United States will ask themselves: Why is America's soft power, even though it is the indispensable nation, not so great as to be understood by the dumb Germans?" Mr. Schäuble said.

 

He said Moscow's short-term tactical victories in Ukraine would backfire in the medium term, because it needs "partnership with Europe" to develop its economy, which he said is overly dependent on oil and gas exports and "much less diversified than it was in Soviet times."

But reflecting on Germany's lackluster popularity in Europe, he could not resist one more jab at Obama...

Popular dismay with the political establishment isn't unique to the EU, Mr. Schäuble said: "Are the approval ratings in the U.S. triumphal?"

With friends like that... who needs Russia

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Sat, 05/24/2014 - 18:45 | 4791975 knukles
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And Europe needs Russia more than they need America.
here we fucking go again... smoke 'em if you got 'em, boys

Sat, 05/24/2014 - 18:50 | 4791985 DaddyO
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Bum 'em if you don't...

As the worm continues to turn, eh knucks?

DaddyO

Sat, 05/24/2014 - 18:57 | 4792004 JoeSexPack
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Jilted GF?

 

Sounds more like a freind about to take keys from a drunk.

Sat, 05/24/2014 - 20:50 | 4792256 COSMOS
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But he warned: "If Russia does not follow the rules, then we won't seek military escalation, but we will of course use our political and diplomatic abilities to increase the pressure on it to abide by the rules."

What a schmuck, so a sovereign nation like Russia should play by some playground bully made up rules. LOL.  These guys in Euroland are really living in a magical made up world. What the heck.  Rules, like their rules of violating the sovereignty of a nation and overthrowing a democratically elected govt, ah those rules Russia did not play by, is that why they are upset, they want Russia to waltz in and overthrow govts left and right like the EU and USA and Nato have been doing for a loooong time.  Tell you what you POS, the rules you better follow are when you have to ration gas to stay warm this coming winter.  But being a self entitled politcian prick I am sure your house will stay nice and warm all winter long while everyone else freezes. 

Sat, 05/24/2014 - 21:07 | 4792282 Omen IV
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MY interpretation was - this is a message for Washington consumption "not" Russia - this is a throw in  line to keep the speech safe for US State Department - probably more than him sending message

"we will of course use our political and diplomatic abilities to increase the pressure on it to abide by the rules."

key line is : ".......as to be understood by the "dumb" Germans?"

this means overwhelmingly Germans from unions to industrialists are not on board with Merkel and US position they dont buy the propaganda - he is being cute  - they are not dumb but smart especially compared to average american

No one believes anything  worldwide US puts out - US is a pariah and a scumbag nation

 

Sun, 05/25/2014 - 03:13 | 4792792 Oracle 911
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"No one believes anything  worldwide US government puts out - US government is a pariah and a scumbag government."

 

Here fixed for ya. Otherwise I agree.

 

Edit: Some formating elements doesn't work.

Sun, 05/25/2014 - 03:58 | 4792821 jeff montanye
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and, cosmos, the rule about getting to bomb other countries at will.  well, at least the will of the u.s.  

no one else though.  that's terrorism.  oh, except israel.

Sun, 05/25/2014 - 08:59 | 4792962 luckylongshot
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Jim Willie says Ukraine has cost Merkel her job as the German business community are unhappy about her position on Ukraine and so she is on the way out. The recent trip to the US and the subsequent UN role announcement for Merkel are consistent with this. German business wants to be closer to neonazi opposing Russia rather than Neonazi supporting America and the German public are overwhelmingly on board with this.

Sun, 05/25/2014 - 07:29 | 4792892 Singelguy
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When I read that, my first thought was, What rules is he referring to? Those laid down by bitch Nuland? Biden? McCain?

Sat, 05/24/2014 - 20:52 | 4792258 old naughty
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<--ovarb,

Russia will be brought in line !

Sun, 05/25/2014 - 13:10 | 4793455 CPL
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The ECB recycles oxygen to CO so the plants in their office don't die and cleverly developed a scheme to allow for the carbon tax swap of their own hot air... 

Am I missing something here?

Sat, 05/24/2014 - 19:41 | 4792108 knukles
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Yeah... everything is coming in backwards.
The West becomes more authoritarian with diminishing freedoms while the East and Asia display expansion (To wit, dress, language, debate amongst folks in Russia or China vs 30 years ago).
The East becomes more Capitalistic/free market (albeit oligarchy) whilst the opposite rings true in the West.
Most people have become more materialistic, self centered and egomaniacal at the expense of spiritual matters.
Rulers still rule poorly and in their own self interest, although it appears worse over the last several generations, the rise of the sociopaths and psychos.
That nobody cares anymore, as if they ever did, remains evident as exemplified by old men still bitching about the demise of civilizaiton.  To which I believe them right, self included.  Personal civility and honor have all but disappeared .

Long live the enablers of the Free Shit Societies!  The upper and lower tiers benefiting from the disappearing common man. 

Indeed ... how the worm turns, DaddyO

Sat, 05/24/2014 - 19:51 | 4792131 madmax1965
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Well said Knuks!

Sat, 05/24/2014 - 20:23 | 4792189 Remington IV
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Time for another Nobel Prize award , methinks

Sat, 05/24/2014 - 21:08 | 4792289 williambanzai7
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Sat, 05/24/2014 - 23:21 | 4792549 dsty
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u b crazy

forther on some lovely Chinese ladies

Sun, 05/25/2014 - 13:12 | 4793458 CPL
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Beauty is only a light switch away.

Sat, 05/24/2014 - 18:45 | 4791977 q99x2
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Was ist das? Er ist Mude.Ich gehe joggin M'Fers.

Russia, China and Germany.

Yeeeeehaaaaa.

We will come rejoicing bringing in the theives. FU Goldma Sachs.

Sat, 05/24/2014 - 18:47 | 4791980 Saratoga
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"Russia needs Europe more than China to develop economy".....wait till they turn off your oil and gas

Sat, 05/24/2014 - 18:57 | 4791998 BrosephStiglitz
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It's a no-brainer that Russia cannot afford to sever ties with Europe right now.  All this Russian/China talk does not bode well for the future, but it will take time to lay the basic infrastructure for that deal to even come to fruition.

Right now Russia and the EU have a symbiotic relationship, or should if not for US meddling.  Though Russia wants to fragment the EU to reduce their bargaining power in future energy deals.

In the long-term future things may change.  The Russians obviously cannot be trusted and isolating the US entirely would certainly give them a great deal more power to act in a militaristic manner.  Europe is balancing on a knife-edge right now, one wayward step could lead to World War 3.

Sat, 05/24/2014 - 19:16 | 4792040 Stanley Lord
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I will believe the Russia China gas deal when I see pipe being laid.

Sat, 05/24/2014 - 19:31 | 4792066 Theta_Burn
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I'll be laying some of that pipe a bit later....

Sat, 05/24/2014 - 21:11 | 4792295 ltsgt1
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This symbiotic relationship between the Russia and EU is what the conflicts in Ukraine and Syria are about. US doesn't want this relationship to go further and is forcing EU to choose side.

Sat, 05/24/2014 - 21:21 | 4792316 CrashisOptimistic
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Pretty much that.

The older politicians cannot grasp what oil scarcity means.  Or gas for that matter.

They didn't grow up in this world.  So they pontificate about geopolitical this and that and economic this and that and they just cannot understand that it's all changed.

The oil can be cut off.  The gas can be cut off.  Russia doesn't need Europe.  For what?  Big screen TVs?  Luxury cars?  Russia needs food and water and warmth in the winter.  The rest is wants, not needs.  Europe doesn't provide any "needs".

When you are negotiating with someone about your life, and that someone can whimsically take or leave what you offer to them, you're in deep shit.

Sat, 05/24/2014 - 18:48 | 4791984 TeamDepends
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"America's soft power".  Are you happy now, Demorats?

Sat, 05/24/2014 - 18:51 | 4791990 nmewn
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It seems like only yesterday they were promising "Smart Power"...so I guess this is it...lol.

Sat, 05/24/2014 - 19:06 | 4792022 Pure Evil
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With Obama in the White House it's now all about Queer Power.

Sat, 05/24/2014 - 19:30 | 4792083 nmewn
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They're definitely some odd ducks I'll grant you that, having some weird perceptions of right, wrong, restraint & force.

I mean, they were actively agitating to bring foreign national islamic nutcases to be tried under US law at basically the same time as their killing by drone an American national islamic nutcase living in a different country without benefit of a trial.

(Scratches head)

So I guess its time to jawbone somemore about illegals "living in the shadows" and make them legal (even though what they did was illegal) cuz there's an election coming up and they've got to get some corporate contributions flowing by execs who will profit immensely by having even moar cheap labor at the expense of the lower & middle class.

#SmartEverlastingPower ;-)

Sat, 05/24/2014 - 19:30 | 4792087 Dull Care
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Ugh I can't wait until Barry and his tranny 'wife' leave. They are just so evil.

Sun, 05/25/2014 - 04:05 | 4792824 jeff montanye
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i am actually getting to like having him around.  what with obamacare and the ukraine, he is helping to, if not drown the empire in the bathtub, at least waterboard it a bit.

Sat, 05/24/2014 - 19:33 | 4792089 Dull Care
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Of course given the inertia of democracy and the decivilization of the general public, it's highly likely the next puppets will be even worse.

Sat, 05/24/2014 - 19:56 | 4792140 Goldilocks
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"We're here, we're queer and we'd like to say hello!".

John Lennon-Power To The People-Offical Video-HQ
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RtvlBS4PMF0 (3:45)

Sat, 05/24/2014 - 20:24 | 4792192 Remington IV
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Obama + Kerry = Leading from behind

Sat, 05/24/2014 - 18:50 | 4791986 Rican
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As the WSJ reports, Schaeuble reiterated "we won't seek military escalation, but we will of course use our political and diplomatic abilities to increase the pressure on Russia to abide by the rules."

 

He's the Finance Minister, right? How is it he lets it slip in plain view that he has power over military decisions? May be too subtle (and obscure) to be a "duh" moment for the sheep, but let's get the nooses ready anyhow. 

Sat, 05/24/2014 - 19:42 | 4792114 knukles
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Well of course they won't seek military escalation.
The EU have no fucking military except for barbers and parades.

Sat, 05/24/2014 - 23:43 | 4792585 BlussMann
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The Euro's also have their bearded Tranny Eurovision Queen to keep their morale up during the long 2 week war with Russia.

Sat, 05/24/2014 - 20:22 | 4792185 williambanzai7
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Finance is war by other means.

Sat, 05/24/2014 - 20:59 | 4792269 COSMOS
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I am surprised Russia has not said fine, if you dont want to do business with us that is fine, but if you ever sanction companies in other countries that do business with us that is a declaration of WAR.

Pure and simple let the Duma in Russia pass that resolution that is will be automatic war.  Then when the Euros try that crap Russia should make them aware that they are now in a state of war as they close down the Straits of Hormuz with Iran's help.  Lets see then what will the next step be of the USA or EU, are they going to take it nuclear or are they going to put their tails in their ass cracks and walk away.

Listen if Russians are going to feel pain then the Euros better get used to the same kind of pain.  Russia can close the Straits of Hormuz and lock down the transit of most of the world's oil to Europe and there is nothing the EU or USA can do about it except go nuclear, and the Russians can be ready for that by mobilizing their missile forces and keeping their fingers on the button.

 

 

Sun, 05/25/2014 - 01:19 | 4792693 August
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Well, a lightening stike by combined armor and motorized infantry to seize Moscow would be worth a shot.

It's worked before!

Sun, 05/25/2014 - 00:53 | 4792669 lrdrvrZH
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Schauble is the #2 person in power behind Merkel. If he says 'no military force' then that's pretty much the official government stance.

 

Besides they don't have a military that could challenge Russia. http://www.aei.org/outlook/foreign-and-defense-policy/defense/nato/germa...

Sat, 05/24/2014 - 18:51 | 4791991 edotabin
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Soft power. What an oxymoron. No power is soft except Microsoft.

Sat, 05/24/2014 - 20:04 | 4792153 Terminus C
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Tsunami = soft power

Sat, 05/24/2014 - 18:54 | 4791997 kill switch
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Untontacted tribes need europe?? This a mono a mono!!!!

Sat, 05/24/2014 - 18:57 | 4792005 Hughing
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Fu king things up is Obama's plan. What part of that don't they understand?

Sat, 05/24/2014 - 18:59 | 4792009 BruntFCA
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As if Schaeuble speaks for all of Germany.....what an ego.

Sat, 05/24/2014 - 19:10 | 4792029 DaddyO
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He speaks for the part that currently has the sway!

DaddyO

Sat, 05/24/2014 - 19:19 | 4792050 Theta_Burn
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No..

He speaks for the ones in charge of Germany..

And everything was functioning relatively smoothly till somebody mistakenly decided to fuck with yet another broke ass county. 

 They went to far, now they got real problems..

Was there really any other option for Germany? now they must choose, their country or the American status woe... take a guess what side they will chose.

 

 

 

Sat, 05/24/2014 - 20:49 | 4792138 Winston Churchill
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I will take ,who was von Ribbentrop for $100 Alex.

Sun, 05/25/2014 - 00:20 | 4792636 angel_of_joy
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He does speak for all Germany...  And don't forget who stole their gold !

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