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China Scrambles Fighter Jet, Flies Within 50 Meters Of Japanese Airplanes

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Yesterday we showed how Russia and China hold "massive" naval drills in the northern part of the East China Sea (close enough to Japan for us to footnote "ahem Japan and Taiwan"), which in addition to a clear signal to the US (on part of Russia), was sending just as clear a message to Japan (on the part of China). Sure enough, overnight Japan was not too happy with this massive show of force by the two biggest and closest foes near its disputed territory. As a result it dispatched an OP-3C surveillance plane and a YS-11EB electronic intelligence aircraft. China promptly retaliated and as Reuters reports, it scrambled a Su-27, fully-armed with missiles, which came as close as 50 meters of the Japanese fighters - the closest Chinese warplanes had come to aircraft of Japan's Self-Defense Force according to Japan - in what can only be described as "please take the first punch."

A Chinese SU-27 fighter flies over the East China Sea, in this handout photo taken May 24, 2014 and released by the Defense Ministry of Japan May 25, 2014. Photo credit: Reuters

More from Reuters:

Japan and China on Sunday accused each other's air forces of dangerous behavior over the East China Sea, with Japan saying Chinese aircraft had come within a few dozen meters of its warplanes.

Japan was not happy:

Japan's defense minister accused Beijing of going "over the top" in its approach to disputed territory. China's defense ministry said Japanese planes had carried out "dangerous" actions during its joint maritime exercises with Russia.


Japan's defense ministry said Chinese SU-27 fighters came as close as 50 meters (170 feet) to a Japanese OP-3C surveillance plane near disputed islets on Saturday and within 30 meters of a YS-11EB electronic intelligence aircraft.


"Closing in while flying normally over the high seas is impossible," Defense Minister Itsunori Onodera told reporters in comments broadcast on TV Asahi. 


"This is a close encounter that is outright over the top."


Onodera said Japan conveyed its concerns to the Chinese side through diplomatic channels. He also said the Chinese planes were carrying missiles.


A ministry official said it was the closest Chinese warplanes had come to aircraft of Japan's Self-Defense Force.

China was not happy either:

China's defense ministry said jets were scrambled in the East China Sea on Saturday after Japanese aircraft entered its air defense zone during maritime exercises with Russia. 


The ministry said the Japanese aircraft had entered the zone despite "no fly" notices being issued ahead of the exercises. China declared its air defense zone last year despite protests by Japan and the United States.


"Japanese military planes intruded on the exercise's airspace without permission and carried out dangerous actions, in a serious violation of international laws and standards, which could have easily caused a misunderstanding and even led to a mid-air accident," the statement said.


China had proposed urgent talks, it said, and demanded that Japan "respect the lawful rights of China's and Russia's navies ... and stop all reconnaissance and interference activities. Otherwise Japan will bear any and all consequences from this".

Clearly China is not willing to take the next major, and lethal, step in the escalation of nationlistic tensions between the two nations. But if Japan is provoked to do it, well, so be it.


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Sun, 05/25/2014 - 09:39 | 4793018 Oh regional Indian
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I think it is safe to call Japan JUSA from now on.

It really explains everything, including the headliner, that can be re-framed to say something like:

American Proxy in the pacific scrambles...etc.

Or, American Proxy in the Pacific helped the dollar by slaughtering the Dollar Proxy.


Anyone who has been there with their eyes open know!


Sun, 05/25/2014 - 09:41 | 4793022 DaddyO
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Choose whom this day, you will serve...


Sun, 05/25/2014 - 10:00 | 4793047 Stackers
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No Jap fighters involved. They "scrambled" unarmed twin engine turbo prop surveillance planes.


That was just some Chinese "Maverick" keeping up foreign relations

Sun, 05/25/2014 - 10:10 | 4793071 Oh regional Indian
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There are no Japanese fighters. There are only JUSA (USA Pacific Proxy) fighters.

And turbo-props too, but you get the drift.

This is not a Sino Japanese conflict. This is a Proxy USA/Sino conflict.

The shots are being called from Cheyenne Mountain, you can count your bottom yen on that.

Japan+Germany are occupied nations. Troop levels are:

Country Total    Japan 50,631  


 Germany 40,328


This is beyond question, both occupied territories.

Proxy wars, labels mean little to nothing.

Believe nothing.





Sun, 05/25/2014 - 10:26 | 4793100 Sean7k
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Surveillance planes during naval exercises are pretty common. Approaching within 50 meters with armed attack aircraft is not. Easy to be a tough guy with unarmed surveillance craft. 

While China's navy presents no real threat, as it is a coastal force only, I imagine the Russians were the point of the surveillance. However, since China seems to want to provoke the entire area, some form of aggression has been determined by the Committee of 300. So, sit back and enjoy your attempts at painting one nation as a bad guy- take your pick. Then realize you are just another pawn of the Elites.


Sun, 05/25/2014 - 10:33 | 4793112 strannick
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The killer Panda itching to snap like a bamboo twig these hyper inflating diaper wearers.

Sun, 05/25/2014 - 10:45 | 4793140 813kml
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The Panda mated with a Bear and is ready for more action.

Sun, 05/25/2014 - 10:47 | 4793155 DaddyO
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The mating will produce progeny.

What those progeny will look like can only be speculation at this point.

I say they will not be friendly bears when it comes to the EU/USSA.

Joel Skousen has taken the position that this mating will lead to woar with the west.

I'm siding with him moar and moar as this mating gets fleshed out.


Sun, 05/25/2014 - 10:50 | 4793165 Sean7k
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Sure, because all these countries aren't run by the same people. They need soldiers for war, because they sure as hell won't fight it themselves. Stay home. Peace dividends for all.

Sun, 05/25/2014 - 10:53 | 4793170 strannick
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I'll take Jesus instead.

Sun, 05/25/2014 - 11:26 | 4793249 DaddyO
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Sun, 05/25/2014 - 11:40 | 4793285 strannick
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"As for me and mine..."

Sun, 05/25/2014 - 13:10 | 4793452 COSMOS
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That SU-27 Sure is a pretty plane :)

Sun, 05/25/2014 - 13:15 | 4793466 angel_of_joy
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Cool & Lethal !

Sun, 05/25/2014 - 17:42 | 4793968 gmrpeabody
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Would be taken out before it knew what hit it..., just saying.

Sun, 05/25/2014 - 17:53 | 4793993 Luckhasit
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Sun, 05/25/2014 - 10:48 | 4793158 Sean7k
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Killer Pandas? Is that like a youth soccer team?  The Chinese haven't killed anything but their own people and Nepalese. Repulsed by tiny Vietnem. Maybe if they have a tank and a citizen to run over?

Ooooooh! Chinese tyrants are so much cooler! Troll often?

Sun, 05/25/2014 - 11:40 | 4793283 TheReplacement
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Don't forget the Indians and Tibetans.

Sun, 05/25/2014 - 12:45 | 4793420 Rock On Roger
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Or the Mongols

Sun, 05/25/2014 - 11:32 | 4793264 Flagit
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It wouldn't be the first time there was a mid-air collision between a Chinese fighter and a surveillance aircraft.

Sun, 05/25/2014 - 14:04 | 4793586 Andre
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"Approaching within 50 meters with armed attack aircraft is not. "

Umm... Yes it is common, or at least it was. During the 60's when the Bears would fly along the East coast, F-4 crews on intercept would sometimes bring along Playboy magazines and fly close enough the Russian crews could see the centerfold very clearly.

This was a bog-standard ELINT mission. Get close enough to get them to light up, then record it. Standard response as well.

150 meters on an intercept is nothing serious, unless you're a diplomat.

Sun, 05/25/2014 - 11:24 | 4793243 CunnyFunt
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The USA is also an occupied territory. The international banking cabal got its foot in the door in 1913. It frowns upon competition, especially that which is beyond its jurisdiction.

Sun, 05/25/2014 - 11:37 | 4793275 TheReplacement
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"Believe nothing."

I don't believe you.

Sun, 05/25/2014 - 11:59 | 4793329 Oh regional Indian
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well good for you replacement....precisely....

Mon, 05/26/2014 - 02:01 | 4794750 Sambo
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You are right, the axis powers were defanged after WW-II and remain in a toothless state ever since.

Sun, 05/25/2014 - 10:41 | 4793138 Payne
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The Chinese people are over anxious to bloody Japans lip after what the Japanese did to China in the 1930s.  The Chinese are holding back, luring them in, there will be war.

Sun, 05/25/2014 - 13:01 | 4793443 Jack Burton
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I agree. Popular opinion in China would love to bitch slap Japan and it's arrogant populace for their crimes in China in the 1930's and 40's. 

Sun, 05/25/2014 - 17:40 | 4793965 IronForge
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Cut the "Jap" remark.  Thanks.


Sun, 05/25/2014 - 11:17 | 4793222 takeaction
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Way too many shit storms to keep track of.  This is getting really scary...and I am not being sarcastic.  You have the Mexican Cartels  threatening Texas, then you have the 22 year old Virgin Killing the blonde sluts as he put it....all the way through to which country is going to throw the first punch.  This is way worse then the cold war days.  Back then...only 1 so called enemy (Fake) .  Now it is the entire world (Real).

Sun, 05/25/2014 - 14:03 | 4793579 Jack Burton
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The drug wars in Mexico are producing body counts equal to a major war. But the US and Mexican governments ignore it on the whole and allow the ocean of drugs to keep flowing into the USA.  Why they and the media choose to keep this major war out of media coverage and off the political agenda, is something I can't answer. But it seems the war is spilling over into American territory. While America spends it's money, 5 billion, on Ukraine, and other billions on funding the Al-Qaeda operations in the Middle East, they seem to care little for the blood bath on our borders. In fact, they leave the door wide open so that in a generation the parts of the USA in border areas will resemble Mexico more than the USA, and the drug wars and gang wars will come with the new majority populations.


Sun, 05/25/2014 - 21:53 | 4794457 gmrpeabody
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Obama is in charge..., what did you expect?

Tue, 05/27/2014 - 10:05 | 4798147 BigJim
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Right.. cuz none of this shit was happening before that particular clown puppet got to plant his cheeks on the presidential throne.

Team purple fool.

Sun, 05/25/2014 - 11:28 | 4793254 Ar-Pharazôn
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fixed it for ya :)

Sun, 05/25/2014 - 09:41 | 4793023 km4
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Russia-China gas deal could ignite a shift in global trading | via @Telegraph

If Russia and China now decide to drop dollar energy pricing totally, America’s reserve currency status could unravel fast, seriously undermining the US Treasury market and causing a world of pain for the West. This won’t happen tomorrow or next year. It’s unlikely even by 2020. But by announcing this deal, Russia and China turned the screw half a twist more.


Sun, 05/25/2014 - 09:51 | 4793039 intotheblack
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Commodity currencies the new black, yo. China-Russia-Iran propose trade deals demoninated in local currencies indexed against food, fuel. How long before this reverts to what Marx-Ricardo referred to as the "money commodity" (gold) to simplify transactions within, among currencies?

Speculating. I have no idea. None of what is happening now makes sense to me. Why anyone abroad would want to accept USDs baffles me on its face.

Tue, 05/27/2014 - 10:07 | 4798152 BigJim
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Well, I can tell you why our OPEC satrapies keep demanding USD - cuz the US if the only thing keeping their 'leaders' in clover midst restive populations.

Sun, 05/25/2014 - 09:55 | 4793044 Winston Churchill
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Wishful thinking.
Game theory suggests anything but a gradual decline in the
value/use of of the USD in trade settlement.
The rest of the pieces are in full motion for an alternate,
possibly this year,certainly next year, even without some
unforeseen catalyst causing it before 2015.

Sun, 05/25/2014 - 10:42 | 4793085 813kml
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Indeed, it's pretty amazing how many buttons China has pressed over the last few weeks.  They are keeping the US occupied on the financial, military, and cyber espionage fronts.  I really do think the FED could keep things propped up for another year or so since they pretty much control the markets, but the external pressure will create unforeseen breaches in the dike.

China clearly means swift (and SWIFT-less) business.

Sun, 05/25/2014 - 09:45 | 4793027 Oracle 911
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TPTB need just a false flag action, and the WW3 which is a way for debt clearing will start.

I hope for 2 things:

-the Japanese and Chinese leaders are cool heads and are wary of false flags;

-the US$ which is main source of The PTB's power will be sinked within a month.

Sun, 05/25/2014 - 09:46 | 4793029 Oh regional Indian
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Are you speaking as an oracle there?

Sure hope so. :-)

Sun, 05/25/2014 - 11:41 | 4793290 free_lunch
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What good will sinking USD do? If it"s sinked, it will be replaced by SDR"s. The game stays the same...

"In politics, nothing happens by accident. If it happened, you can bet it was planned that way."

U.S. President Franklin D. Roosevelt

Sun, 05/25/2014 - 12:56 | 4793437 LoneCapitalist
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If the USD sinks, so will other international currencies. Why would we use a basket of collapsed currencies?

Sun, 05/25/2014 - 13:49 | 4793542 MarsInScorpio
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Excellent point.


Sun, 05/25/2014 - 13:54 | 4793559 free_lunch
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For the same reason you are using a currency that loses it's value while you are breaking your back to earn it..

Mon, 05/26/2014 - 02:07 | 4794759 Sambo
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Sun, 05/25/2014 - 09:43 | 4793028 williambanzai7
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A clear misunderstanding as they were up there taking radiation measurements of airborne sushi.

Sun, 05/25/2014 - 10:00 | 4793055 Oh regional Indian
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WillB, here is a headliner for a Godzirra Meets Ninjaman kind of thing...

Big Swinging Dicks Corride over Diyoyou, Sparks fry!

And while we are at it: JAL, for a glowing holiday....

And while we are really at it, is there CLEAR/DOCUMENTED evidence of radiation in Tokyo? Are people falling ill? What is up?

My friends in Japan are all Kool Aid (Pocari version) drinkers...and all look fine. 

Sun, 05/25/2014 - 12:08 | 4793336 RafterManFMJ
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Lucky Japanese.

Had the Chinese wanted that sleek Japanese technology, they would have rammed the aircraft and forced it to land.

Via Wiki

"On April 1, 2001, the Hainan Island incident occurred when a mid-air collision between a United States Navy EP-3E ARIES II signals intelligence aircraft and a People's Liberation Army Navy (PLAN) J-8II interceptor fighter jet resulted in an international dispute between the United States of America and the People's Republic of China."

Personally, I thought the US pilots should have been executed for landing in Chinese territory and gifting them the aircraft and all it's gee-whiz technology.

Sun, 05/25/2014 - 13:52 | 4793552 MarsInScorpio
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By the time the plane landed, the self-destruct sequences in the high-tech equipment had run their course.


That's why the pilots and crew got medals.


Sun, 05/25/2014 - 10:06 | 4793067 813kml
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That's a character in Marvel's new series, the flying fish that through a dose of radiation became a hegemony-defending superhero.

Sun, 05/25/2014 - 11:20 | 4793232 TheFourthStooge-ing
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That's a character in Marvel's new series, the flying fish that through a dose of radiation became a hegemony-defending superhero.

During the day, he poses as a mild mannered, saber rattling, money printing, diarrheic prime minister with a chip on his shoulder. Ah, if people only knew his secret identity...

Sun, 05/25/2014 - 10:06 | 4793068 813kml
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Sun, 05/25/2014 - 09:48 | 4793032 Ignatius
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Dick waving between nuclear powers.  What could possibly go wrong?

Sun, 05/25/2014 - 09:52 | 4793040 Oh regional Indian
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Well Ignatius, you know they're just looking for a spark ;-)

Sun, 05/25/2014 - 10:24 | 4793096 mvsjcl
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Damn, Ori.You're buzzing in and out of this posting like a pesky fly :-)


Any interest in the subject?

Sun, 05/25/2014 - 10:29 | 4793105 Oh regional Indian
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Sometimes mvs, you know how it goes? You want people to see your POV...

+, War is fascinatingly repulsive, generally, no?

+ extensive personal dealings with Japan....totally conflicted by what I see happening there...

Sun, 05/25/2014 - 10:42 | 4793143 mvsjcl
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I hear you, man. That first message can't be overstated.

Sun, 05/25/2014 - 09:58 | 4793049 intotheblack
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So far, so good, said the free-faller at floor 13 of a 20 story drop, or something like that.

Hey, but forget the nuclear part. All we need is precision guided story telling about how morally superior we are for some reason to combat Putin, right?

U.S. needs a strong moral narrative to combat Putin

What do you think? Personally I think we're doomed and deservedly so but reasonable people can disagree.

Sun, 05/25/2014 - 10:26 | 4793099 813kml
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That Wash Post piece is hilariously hypocritical, it accuses Putin of propaganda while its own drips from the page.

Sun, 05/25/2014 - 11:23 | 4793240 TheFourthStooge-ing
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That Wash Post piece is hilariously hypocritical, it accuses Putin of propaganda while its own drips from the page.

Well that's certainly a change of pace. It's usually not hilarious.

Sun, 05/25/2014 - 11:45 | 4793300 TheReplacement
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They are correct that we DO need a stong moral narrative.  The problem is that we do not have one and unless Putin does something absolutely stupid we will not have one.

Sun, 05/25/2014 - 14:00 | 4793572 ebworthen
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The U.S. has no moral or ethical narrative to tell.

The populace has been sold out to China and the banks/corporations/insurers.

The Constitution is being trampled and the STASI police state installed with the help of the armed forces (N.S.A.).

We're against "terrorists" but we fund them in Syria and Libya if it suits the needs of the oil/gas industry initiatives.

We're against "oligarchs" unless of course they are that crony capitalist Warren Buffet or the politically connected savings vaporizing crook Jon Corzine and his accomplice Jamie Dimon.

We're all about "liberty" and "freedom" unless of course it gets in the way of the corporatocracy of industry and the kleptocrats of .gov colluding to oppress the citizenry.

We're all for "Democracy" as long as those seeking it agree to wear the shackles of the kleptoligarchy.

There are lots of good people in the U.S.A., they just aren't in positions of leadership or power.

Sun, 05/25/2014 - 15:02 | 4793681 Sages wife
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It's not the falling that hurts but the stopping.

Sun, 05/25/2014 - 09:50 | 4793034 BlindMonkey
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I need another bag of popcorn. The suspense is killing me.

Sun, 05/25/2014 - 09:51 | 4793037 intric8
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50 fucking meters? Get inverted mav and tell goose to get a polaroid

Sun, 05/25/2014 - 10:23 | 4793093 Ignatius
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That would be cool....

Sun, 05/25/2014 - 09:55 | 4793043 disabledvet
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Again "the first casualty of war is the truth."

Trying to proclaim "China obviously would never would start such a thing" flies in the face (so to speak) that those aircraft were loaded and ready to fire.

"Looking for a fight, find a fight." Move along....

Sun, 05/25/2014 - 10:04 | 4793060 intotheblack
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I get this mental image of a dimlly lit bunker conference room redolent of Kubric's Dr. Strangelove where a group of U.S. elites who had been sitting on the edges of their seats all throw up their hands at once in disappointment as a large screen depicts in real time the Chinese SU pulls away without releasing ordnance.


Sun, 05/25/2014 - 10:37 | 4793116 Mine Is Bigger
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This kind of news report makes me wonder if the Chinese leadership is losing control of the military.  It just seems such a pointless and stupid thing to do politically -- It's excessively aggressive and does not produce any political benefit.  This news reminds me of an incident last year where a Chinese warship locked its weapon-targeting radar on a Japanese warship.  It almost seems like the Chinese military wants to cause an incident so that it can start a war.

Sun, 05/25/2014 - 14:02 | 4793576 MarsInScorpio
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The goal here is to reassert the Chinese Air Defense Zone - which takes in almost all of the East and South China seas.


If you wanted to make sure the castrated Western powers take note, go "over the top" - instead of just another common event "jet tracks surveilence aircraft" operation. It reinforces the idea that the castrated West is powerless to do anything about it.


Annnnnnd - This is a great opportunity for the naval exercises to practice on live targets.


But most important, it makes a statement about the Chinese Air Defense Zone - which you have noticed is treated as such by every nation in the world when it comes to commercial traffic.


With the exception of one noted fly-through by the US with unarmed planes, nobody has challenged it militarily with armed aircraft.


Eunics don't win wars. They babysit the princesses.


Sun, 05/25/2014 - 10:00 | 4793051 Hindenburg...Oh Man
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Markets up .70 percent on Tuesday, low volume. Vix smashed to 10.98

Sun, 05/25/2014 - 10:00 | 4793052 freedom5000
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nice plane. like to have one

Sun, 05/25/2014 - 10:04 | 4793062 marcusfenix
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peak "red lines"

once again into the breech we go.


Sun, 05/25/2014 - 10:09 | 4793075 bam
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wake me up when someone get shot down

Sun, 05/25/2014 - 10:14 | 4793078 intric8
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In fairness, that chinese fighter looks pretty fucking bad ass

Sun, 05/25/2014 - 10:21 | 4793091 rtalcott
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No pun intended...but they all look the same...

Sun, 05/25/2014 - 10:19 | 4793087 GrinandBearit
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Sun, 05/25/2014 - 11:51 | 4793310 Flagit
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wake me up when someone get shot down

Replies from THIS weekend.


I have a boyfriend.

I'm busy with work.

I'm focusing on school.

I'm gay.

I'm just coming out of a bad relationship.

I'm looking for someone younger.

It's not you, I'm not emotionally available right now.



That's 7 smoldering surveillance aircraft on my runway.


Sun, 05/25/2014 - 12:12 | 4793355 RafterManFMJ
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Please don't begin work on a manifesto while shopping for handguns or post threading videos on YouTube - you will someday lose your virginity.

Tue, 05/27/2014 - 02:20 | 4797571 Flagit
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Could not make sense out of your comment. Till now.

Rejected Brat Goes on Killing Spree Because Girls Didn’t Like Him
Sun, 05/25/2014 - 10:18 | 4793086 Maxter
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Japan have 50 nuclear reactor spread across their island.  If China decided to attack them in a desesperate move, do the Japanese understand that the whole island will have to be evacuated?  Yes it would constitute a war crime, but the damage would be done forever.  Pretty much no more Japan for the next centuries.


China has currently 21 reactors and their territory is way bigger.  So it is less of a problem, but still a serious threat.


War between those 2 country would be madness.

Sun, 05/25/2014 - 10:25 | 4793097 Oh regional Indian
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I think this is the way it has been planned. 

No-win situations abound, like an end game. A good heat map (hard to visualize with so much crap flying around). I mean Libya is a basket case, off the news. Iraq is a baslet case. Off the news. SYria upstaged totally by Ukraine crisis...which has been effectively displaced by &$%#@$#@# boko #$#@@@@#$$# haram #girls whatever...

Extra time, game tied, everyone is huffing and puffing.....

How long is refree's decision and the game is rigged.

May the reefer-e decide...

Sun, 05/25/2014 - 13:10 | 4793454 Emergency Ward
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I see a news item today about Torturer-in-Chief Obama paying a surprise visit to the Afghanistan secret torture site at Bagram Air Base to see the troops that he had pulled out before??????  OOops, they're not gone yet!

Something new every day.....

Sun, 05/25/2014 - 10:22 | 4793094 Took Red Pill
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Looks like the USA war machine is going strong especially in Florida. I find this video very disturbing;


Sun, 05/25/2014 - 10:32 | 4793109 moonstears
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Where do you suggest US troops, fellow Americans, train? Don't want war, don't want them surfing porn. You don't want them training. WTF?

Sun, 05/25/2014 - 10:40 | 4793132 WTFx10
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150 fucking bases around the world that we are paying for. Let the duped fucks train there.

Kissinger referred pointedly to military men as "dumb, stupid animals to be used" as pawns for foreign policy.

READ it over and over again until it sinks in. Thats what TPTB think of the easliy duped military. Why a military man hasn't capped his ass is beyond me?


Sun, 05/25/2014 - 11:15 | 4793219 moonstears
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I'll assure you feeling's mutual wth Kissenger. Ahem " we are paying for" ...Duped fucks? You should say "Semper Fi" every time you pump a gallon of $6 gas for $3.75. You get ROI.

Sun, 05/25/2014 - 11:56 | 4793324 Spastica Rex
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You should say "Semper Fi" every time you pump a gallon of $6 gas for $3.75. You get ROI.

100% accurate.

Maybe that's the real purpose of the military, huh?

Sun, 05/25/2014 - 13:01 | 4793386 Emergency Ward
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While the IRS sticks it's filthy paws in moony's pocket for the other $10 a gallon it takes to support global military you pay $13.75 for $6.00 gas.  Clearly.  Modern "semper fuck" Redistributionist ROI.

Sun, 05/25/2014 - 12:17 | 4793364 RafterManFMJ
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Why a military man hasn't capped his ass is beyond me?

Kissinger referred pointedly to military men as "dumb, stupid animals..."

The evidence clearly suggests Kissinger may have had a point...

Sun, 05/25/2014 - 10:37 | 4793121 Spastica Rex
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War makes little kids happy.

Sun, 05/25/2014 - 10:39 | 4793127 moonstears
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You do understand that the true ultimate purpose of a military is to protect you, right? You think you can get so far off the "grid" you'ld miss an invasion? You fuckin' guys.

Sun, 05/25/2014 - 10:48 | 4793157 Spastica Rex
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No - I think it's our job to protect the millitary.

All for the glory of the homeland.

Sun, 05/25/2014 - 10:55 | 4793177 813kml
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Those Nazis look downright friendly compared to the current crop of US stormtroopers.

Sun, 05/25/2014 - 11:01 | 4793186 Oh regional Indian
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I think those were generally friendlier times, calmer overall.

It was the golden age of the Helpful Bobby, I say...

I saw a video of someone fighting with a Chav on a british bus recently. I had no idea a chav existed.

Mind-boggled, and that is in open society.

Those days are not coming back anytime soon either, not without some pain, ongoing...

Sun, 05/25/2014 - 11:42 | 4793231 813kml
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Western societies have definitely devolved since then, just in the US there is much pent-up aggression waiting to be unleashed.  Its sheeple could easily be led into another war.

Sun, 05/25/2014 - 10:57 | 4793179 Oh regional Indian
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Haaah...wicked man SR, you are. 

Now it got me wondering, Hitler must have had a right shoulder made of steel, he could just keep it uppy!

Hail...and all that sort of thing.

Nazi pomp was pretty top notch, one has to admit...

When did US become the Homeland? Landmark date, that.

Sun, 05/25/2014 - 11:22 | 4793239 Clamdigger
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If only it were an easy-to-remember date, ORI... something like (and I'm just spitballing here)... something like NINE TEN. You know, something like that.

Sun, 05/25/2014 - 11:30 | 4793257 Oh regional Indian
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Sometimes, some times just call for a Joe Bageant piece:

When Did Amerika become a Homeland?

Sun, 05/25/2014 - 12:19 | 4793365 intric8
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"You do understand that the true ultimate purpose of a military is to protect you, right?"

This sort of thinking is neoconic self-fulfilling fallacy. We need protection from shit we start ourselves - its that simple. If we ceased our bs worshipful devotion of israel just 20 years ago, this world would be so peaceful your head would spin. Thats IF our fucked up govt desired sustainable peace, which they do not.

Sun, 05/25/2014 - 13:31 | 4793502 moonstears
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Yes, pass a spritzer you've figured it all out. Anyone pro USA is a Neocon.(sarc). Every banker's a Jew(sarc). The $1.5bil we spend per annum on Israel is the WHOLE problem(sarc). How about the political fucking class is only 7% former military?

To know war is to want peace. 

Sun, 05/25/2014 - 21:49 | 4794443 intric8
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Its not the money per say. Its the unwavering support, the ridiculous fawning by our elected officials in congress who trip over themselves to make sure they're on record supporting israel because thats where the bread is being buttered for many politicians. Of course we need a military that should be capable of defending our country, and that industry creates jobs, but america has to be selective about what crisis it gets involved in, or more succinctly, what crisis it starts

Sun, 05/25/2014 - 10:39 | 4793128 moonstears
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You do understand that the true ultimate purpose of a military is to protect you, right? You think you can get so far off the "grid" you'ld miss an invasion? You fuckin' guys.

Sun, 05/25/2014 - 10:41 | 4793134 IridiumRebel
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What if these guys are the invasion? You will be crying bitchass tears instead of "Moonstears" but then again you probably will be one of the fuckers selling people which point the war will come to the matresses.

Sun, 05/25/2014 - 10:56 | 4793156 moonstears
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Then your politicians will protect you.(sarc)

Do the math dickhead. How many cops plus military to average joe?

Sun, 05/25/2014 - 12:14 | 4793351 IridiumRebel
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"In 2008, federal police employed approx. 120,000 full-time law enforcement officers, authorized to make arrests and carry firearms in the United States."

1,369,532 Active Personnel in the  American Military

850,880 Reserve Personnel currently.

Let's do the math: Adding in 250,000 extra for posterity, the current number of state and local police plus our military and the precluded quarter million for ATF etc....2,590,412 within the matrix thinking that all of them would remain in the fascist ranks for your assumed civil war here in America. They would have to take on 73,270,043 males, age 18–49 (2010 est.) and  71,941,969 females, age 18–49 (2010 est.) who make up "fighting age. That number comes to 145,212,012 give or take....The answer to your question if the numbers were to hold assuming the military would have access to full force and no dissenters going home to protect their families is 56 to 1. I believe it would actually be closer to about 100 to 1 as to how outnumbered they would be because you know there would be a helluva a lot of former military in their 50s-60s who angry as fuck at this .gov seeing as the treatment rendered by such orgs as the VA. Flat out, it would be a fucking slaughter and they know it so they slowly move the needle to anesthetize the populace through bread and circus. This is why you will never see a civil war. It would be fucking suicide.

I'd say they are severely outnumbered. 

What's in your matress?

Sun, 05/25/2014 - 13:16 | 4793450 moonstears
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So you are affirming my point. The military is America loyal. Some of you bitchez, I'm doubting. Enjoy Russia? Then go there, fuck, we don't care.

p.s. Look up "Russia starvation post WWI". Tell me who kept them alive. It's the little known facts that get ya!


Sun, 05/25/2014 - 11:05 | 4793199 moonstears
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"bitchass tears"? Sounds metrosexual. Loan me some lipstick and I guess I could.

Sun, 05/25/2014 - 11:21 | 4793236 El Vaquero
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WTF is any foreign army going to invade the Gila Wilderness area for?

Sun, 05/25/2014 - 10:54 | 4793174 moonstears
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Only someone who's always been pampered, or never been to war, says such shit. 

Sun, 05/25/2014 - 11:14 | 4793216 goldhedge
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Equal dislikes and likes.  The Sheeple may be waking up from their slumber.

Sun, 05/25/2014 - 11:28 | 4793253 PT
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TRP:  Yeah, out of all the countries in the world today having "military exercises", the US is the only one practising to invade its own back yard.

Interpret that as you will.


( Re:  my own statement:  It sounds informative and dumb at the same time. ) 

Sun, 05/25/2014 - 15:14 | 4793695 Sages wife
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Ominous last line..."Unlike real war, noboby dies, and the good guys always win". 

Sun, 05/25/2014 - 10:52 | 4793149 Sean7k
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If you were to take a good look around the world, you would find it almost entirely at peace, people enjoying life, working, playing and spending sunday with family. The disturbances are few and far between. This is the reality of life and how people seek to live.

The incursions are man made creations of a few thousand psychopathic demons placed into power, because we lack the will or attention to detail to rule ourselves. In an attempt to escape responsibility, we thrust slavery upon ourselves and our children. We willingly give our sons and daughters to the military to be killed, wounded and mentally scarred for life. 

Why are we so easily mislead and fooled? Because of the propaganda of media? Is everyone that stupid? 

BBQ at Bill's house? Or war in the south china sea? Tough decision. Champions league match? Or the killing of Ukranian neighbors? Some one has to pick up the gun and fire. Someone has to be convinced to murder. That someone is YOU. When the yous of the world stop fighting, people stop dying and go back to the BBQ and futbol match. Is it really that difficult of a choice?

Sun, 05/25/2014 - 10:58 | 4793180 dsty
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the problem is war, Ukraine possibly getting out of hand and harming US ship

dollar falls if US backs down

tofu on grill instead of steak

might be better for you

war happens, usually thru economics, like many have warned here

Sun, 05/25/2014 - 11:23 | 4793241 Maxter
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Well said Sean!

Sun, 05/25/2014 - 12:02 | 4793334 MakeMineADouble
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Go back to GLP.  The adults are here.

Sun, 05/25/2014 - 11:14 | 4793215 americanspirit
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When it happens, war is almost always a surprise. Then in retrospect, it is always so obvious that it was coming.

So, things look pretty obvious to me, right now. Given the state of the world, and the incompetence of TPTB, how can war not happen soon?

Note China's language ".... in a serious violation of international laws and standards, which could have easily caused a misunderstanding and even led to a mid-air accident."


Sun, 05/25/2014 - 11:31 | 4793261 orangegeek
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This is like WWF/WWE wrestling.


Where are the stealth drones?


Sun, 05/25/2014 - 11:33 | 4793269 DutchMadness
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It is interesting to note that the USA is considering their economiz zone 200 N.miles ( 370 km ) from any landmass of their teritory, and 350 N.miles ( 648 km) as their seabed territory....  In that light, the differences in the  South China Sea are about the status of the outer islands over there.

Sun, 05/25/2014 - 11:45 | 4793297 Joe A
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Perhaps they just wanted to exchange recipes. You know, shitty shuisi vs. shitty wok.

Sun, 05/25/2014 - 12:07 | 4793346 Fred123
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You can bet that traitor 0bama made a deal with the Chinese. That means Japan is on its own.

Sun, 05/25/2014 - 18:51 | 4794104 Grimnir
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Japan has been the 51st state since 1945. Pay attention.

Sun, 05/25/2014 - 12:23 | 4793378 Rock On Roger
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Remember Nanking

Sun, 05/25/2014 - 17:47 | 4793983 BigInJapan
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Remeber Mao.

Sun, 05/25/2014 - 12:33 | 4793393 user2011
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This is just plain fucking stupid moves.

I think the Chinese leaders are really morons of the century.   They don't have the balls to confront military jets and they are trying to terrorize the civilians.

Fucking stupids.

Sun, 05/25/2014 - 12:46 | 4793424 q99x2
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Russia is going to be the place to move to for the next 30 years. 

Sun, 05/25/2014 - 13:12 | 4793460 Tegrat
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Don't put it past Obama to start a war to distract people for the mid-terms upcoming. You heard it here first.

Sun, 05/25/2014 - 13:17 | 4793469 Hubbs
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The most striking aspect of this starts with the picture. It looks like an exact clone of the venerable F-14 (or one of our jets) and I understand that the Chinese have stolen the schematics down to the last detaill and composition of out latest fighter jet the joint strike fighter. Politicians, bankers, miltary industrial  complex all part of one toxic stew.

I used to favor an all voluntary military,  but I don't now, old Rummey's comment that a  volunteer military  wouldn't ad "value" to the military not withstanding.

We need a mandatory military 2 -3 year service commitment by all people, no exceptions, no excuses, for the sole purpose of making sure that all the Bankers and elitests's kids get thrown into the fire and run the risk of getting killed by our own weapons, to make sure the politicians guard our military secrets more carefully, and to keep the military from being a poor man's army, used as cannon fodder for the elites schemes to make more money. 



Sun, 05/25/2014 - 14:33 | 4793638 Winston of Oceania
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I don't want good kids to die taking care of dipshits who never had to fend for themselves in any manner. Besides they still won't have to serve...

Sun, 05/25/2014 - 13:37 | 4793521 Millivanilli
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You can't wave, HI! unless they see you.

Sun, 05/25/2014 - 14:24 | 4793621 medium giraffe
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Must be that time of century again.  Nearly every first quarter, the same shit.  Tiresome.

Sun, 05/25/2014 - 17:01 | 4793891 naughtius maximus
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Scramble two F-16s out of Galena!

Sun, 05/25/2014 - 17:45 | 4793979 BigInJapan
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How fucking weak-minded are the Chinese to be carrying an 80 year old grudge against the Japanese while their beloved Mao killed over 50 million Chinese "grandfathers and grandmothers"?


Sun, 05/25/2014 - 18:58 | 4794123 Grimnir
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It's really not that simple. Believe it or not, relations between the countries WERE getting better. At it's lowest according to polls, the amount of Chinese who had a negative opinion of Japan was, a few years ago, around 60 some percent. The Pew poll 2002 showed the Japanese who had a negative opinion of China was only 45 percent. Nowadays, the recent polls show the numbers on both sides to be in the 90s. And the increases coincide quite nicely with the esculating tensions over the Senkaku and other militarization efforts on both sides. Bringing up the past is really more of an excuse than a genuine grudge.

Sun, 05/25/2014 - 17:46 | 4793981 BigInJapan
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And cue William Banzai clever popart making fun of China's airforce in 3.2.1. 

Oh yeah... I forgot he lives in China...

Sun, 05/25/2014 - 17:51 | 4793988 IronForge
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The JSDF Aircraft were allegedly shadowing the RUS/CHN Naval Exercises.  I don't know how close the planes flew by the Exercise Area; but if it's the usual "unauthorized flyover" done a la "Cold War" style, then Interceptors sticking close to them is expected.

Disputed Territory is also an issue here, so someone's going to have to send Fighter Escorts along next time around.  I'm sure Uncle Sam might take on the Role to Provoke and Walk the Territory for "Freedom".

Cynical? Yes.  Considering the recent "Territorial Claim Expansions" by CHN in the South China Sea and beyond (that effectively cover almost all SE Asian ocean trade routes east of Singa Pura save possibly for the SGP-AUS/NZL routes), the rest of us may have to stand firm.  

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