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China Blocks "High-Level Hooligan" US Consultants Amid "Spying Concerns"
It appears the tit-for-tat cyber-spying debacle between China and the US is escalating (unless it's all curious coincidence). Having blasted the US as a "mincing rascal" and "high-level hooligan" in the Chinese (state-run) media, The FT reports that authorities have ordered state-owned enterprises to cut ties with US consulting companies such as McKinsey and Boston Consulting Group because of fears they are spying on behalf of the US government. Furthermore, the crackdown is worse as, in the face of the "US hacker empire," China’s leaders announced on Thursday that all foreign IT products and services sold in China would be subject to a new security screening process. So it seems China has entered both the currency war (CNY weakness) and protectionism racket... now how has that ended for the world in the past?
As The FT reports, China has ordered state-owned enterprises to cut ties with US consulting companies such as McKinsey and Boston Consulting Group because of fears they are spying on behalf of the US government, according to people close to senior Chinese leaders.
The instruction comes days after the US Justice Department indicted five People’s Liberation Army officers on charges of cyber-espionage and stealing trade secrets from US corporations including Alcoa, US Steel and Westinghouse.
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Beijing’s response to the indictments was swift, with a propaganda campaign in Chinese state media describing the US as a “mincing rascal” and “high-level hooligan”. The decision to ban state enterprises from working with western consulting companies marks a further escalation in Beijing’s response.
Management consultancies including McKinsey, BCG, Bain & Company and Strategy&, formerly known as Booz & Co, have extensive operations in China, which remains a rapidly growing market for them.
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In the face of US accusations over cyber attacks and industrial espionage, Chinese officials say their country’s ministries, companies, universities and telecoms networks are under constant attack from the “US hacker empire”.
Furthermore, partial protectionism appears to be looming...
“The top leadership has proposed setting up a team of Chinese domestic consultants who are particularly focused on information systems in order to seize back this power from the foreign companies,” said a senior policy adviser to the Chinese leadership. “Right now the foreigners use their consulting companies to find out everything they want about our state companies.”
China’s leaders announced on Thursday that all foreign IT products and services sold in China would be subject to a new security screening process. Any company, product or service that fails the test will be banned from China.
The vetting will focus on products and services used in communications, finance, energy and any other industries the government considers related to national security or “public interest”, officials said.
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“Under President Xi Jinping, technology and implementation will look to be converging, so foreign tech firms should be very worried about their prospects.”
The last time the world's largest trading partners devolved into a pissing match over competitively devalued currencies and protectionism... didn't end too well - but this time is different because central banks print magic money to fix everything.
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Fook yuen your u.s. company, you leave china now
Both the US and Chinese governments are hopelessly behind in the race to protect government technology from hackers and spies. Governments around the world need to seriously rethink their approach to cyber-terrorism before people much smarter than them unleash chaos on the global economy. Cryptocurrencies need to be banned at a global level as an initial measure. The next step is monitor all communication protocols including emails, facebook posts and text messages and ensure that messages flagged as terror threats are sent straight to the NSA.
in addition, they need you to SCRUB THE LATRINES, YOU USELESS SHILL OF CUNT....NOW GET TO IT MAGGOT!!!!!!!!
I haven't been around half as long as you and even I realize MDB's posts are all just over-the-top sarc.
Officially sanctioned or just tolerated is the big question.
Yeah...well goodie for you. My retorts are for the MAGGOT that takes the time to write such asinine shit.
Not my fault Mr Bonus. I coulda helped protect my gubmint from hackers but they didn't want me to be that smart. To avoid pathetic, long rambling story I'll just cut to the chase: Gubmints too tight and too lazy and can't protect themselves from hackers deserve whatever they cop. Actually, I don't believe they can't protect themselves. I believe they just love blaming "hackers" for all sorts of crap as a means to their own nefarious ends.
Governments can't protect themselves from hackers because they choose to be stupid.
Is this one of those posts where the sarcasm is lost in a digital format?
Hard to tell. So far 12 people think he's serious and 5 think he's satire.
Personally, I think MDB has been held hostage and his only hope of breaking free ( or avoiding some hideous form of blackmail ) is to post his nonsense, and then he posts stuff that is totally over the top in the hope that everyone realizes he doesn't mean it. What other explanation could there possibly be?
I think MDB's post should be on the best of the Hedge. It's so baffling, no one can really be sure as to the intended meaning. It forces one to think, and question, and serves as a fine grained filter for ideas. Either he has totally freed himself, or he is totally captured, and that is the dramatic tension of the prose.
Yes, and every paycheck direct deposited to a J.P. Morgan Chase or Wells Fargo account.
Then the I.R.S. can just take out the taxes you owe based on deposits.
Get rid of those damn coins and bills too, only drug dealers use them.
Cameras in every home for safety and to ensure accountability.
RFID tags to find anyone that's lost, too.
Who is up voting this crap!
I mean, there must be some one really really genius working behind the scene who united China and Russia.
We who love sarc! One of MDB_'s better posts, but I miss MDB.
p.s. NickVegas' post above is priceless (+1).
"blasted the US as a "mincing rascal" and "high-level hooligan"
I frickin love it when the Chinese talk trash....
Where's that "citizenism" guy....I need another dose!
I miss terms like "imperialist running-dog" but then I'm old school...
given how things are going in Russia and India lately, I'm hoping "social imperialists" and "Indian reactionaries" come back into use... I wanna party like it's 1959...
Saracen pig! Spartan dog! Roman cow! Russian snake! SPANISH FLY!!!
(These angry insults brought to you by "What's Up, Tiger Lily?")
Game of ping pong begins !!!
Game of ping pong...nah.
that popular sport got China to have a population first in the world.
But, but but ... Globalisation will make the world more peaceful!!! My MSM propaganda machine told me so. Several times.
No way would you outsource all your manufacturing to a foreign country and then piss them off. Who would be so dumb? ...
Spending like drunken sailors,off shoring jobs and manufacturers, importing 3rd world "citizen slaves" by the millions, pissing off Europe, Asia the M.E.
I always picture shadowy, satanic, "mincing hooligans" smirking round a table in Brussels..."see what we've done to the worlds only "Hyperpower"?"
It's almost like someone, somewhere, said to themselves, "I don't want the yanks to be successful any more. Let's deliberately destroy them."
Or: "I don't want the yanks to be successful any more. Let's put them on their own and see what happens." Who knows if and for how long the USA has been going auto-pilot. Know what I mean?
I hear there's a meeting in Copenhagen this week for the top 200.
Ok. Now that explains VIX going single digits tomorrow morning.
Well, given the day and the title, I can not think of a more appropriate song.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P2zgjIGaIo4&feature=kp
EV-ry body want a piece of the action,
Video not available in my country. What was all that stuff about "free, uncensored" internet again?
A bit like the other day when I tried to find an article on my laptop after reading it on my phone. I thought I could just google the headline. Nope. For some reason it wasn't there. Had to type in the whole address into the address bar. Maybe not enough people had read the article at that stage for it to register.
I tried to look up an article I'd previously read which trashed the IPCC/global warming and had to scroll through seven pages on google to find it again. it appears that the powers that be are paying to promote more politcially acceptable articles to the top of the lst.
Time to build our own search engines.
and our own computers.
and our own internet.
Hmmm, may take a little longer than I'd like.
How about "time to build our own database" and stop giving Oracle a back door into our organizations for "support". Out of Memory ORA-27102
I stand by my comment. But your idea is good too.
Fer fucks sake. What a wonderfuld world.
The video was Hooligan's Holiday, by Motley Crue.
alt
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZPoXD-9uJdI
Thanks. Very much appreciated.
Not that I was interested in listening to the song, but it was the principle that mattered. Motley Crue have one or two good songs, so maybe I should have a listen.
It is ok to say it....Motley Crue suck. Always have.
LOL... If it's American SW or HW, you might as well make the working assumption that it has a "intel inside" (that you pay for), just like it says on the box. It's there to harvest "intel" on you.
How can that be? Can you find NSA in Consultants?
Germany can hire US Consultants to prove that NSA spying on Merkel since 2002 has been beneficial for Germany as are chlorine-washed chickens.
Bullish for US GDP
RIP Cisco
And Costco...
And Sears, JC Pennies, Kmart, Walmart Best Buy et al
Where is the US strong? Hmmmm, high tech. How do we destroy it? You can't, it's highly coveted, adaptive, and diverse. How do parasites thrive? The use a host as a vector to infect new hosts. Would a poison pill in each package work? It would force the targets to turn away from that source. I have an idea, whisper, mumble, whisper.
I wonder if the "new security screening process" has a gold coin operated by-pass switch.
I got no idea. Just wondering ...
When do they kick out the Western banks?
when will they kick out
WMT
DELL
HPQ
IBM
Apple
GM
Ford
and many more?
Amerikans will starve for the Black Friday Sale , towes and Crock Pots which is the treasures they seek. First World Problem
Don't the Chinese make most of that stuff?
Wouldn't that mean kicking themselves out?
Naah, just means they'd have to sell that stuff to the people who made it. Decisions, decisions ...
When the richest 300 million Chinese are richer than the US, WATCH OUT!
Hooligans?
You mean like Microsoft not standing behind XP or the NSA dropping malware in everything rolling off the line?
Well you cannot fault the Chinese on facts..
describing the US as a “mincing rascal” and “high-level hooligan”.
They certainly have got the Obummer monkey down to a tee.
Who could posibly argue with them. Perhaps they have pictures too of him getting blown by his fat rent boys
Yep, Business with Russia is a lot more profitable. First you lock out tech. Jamie Dimon, and then you break all copyright and patent laws. Pure profit on drugs, tech and finance. And Jamie Dimon Blankfein, the Queen of Netherlands and Queen of England and the Western oligarchs get the big FU Goldman Sachs.
continual escalation, preperation for war eventualy after economic chaos?
No more flatscreen 3D TVs for you Mr Yankeeman. Unless you can pick it up from the factory gates.
(???)
I got a funny feeling in my left big toe that Putin is puttin on his game hat and has just moved his queen into position, or, I have Gout.
Your gout is telling you sumptin
I think the CIA calls this blow-back.
I call it "Puck Watching", when they aren't watching Porn.
"Keep your head up and use your peripheral vision to watch the puck and what’s happening around you. If you’re constantly looking down at the puck, you’re not likely to have it long. You’ll lose it to an opponent, or you could get your bell rung. Keep your head up to survey the ice for teammates, open ice and opponents."
If you see how the political puck keeps moving from Ukraine, then China and then europe then back to Ukriane, then africa then octomoms boobs, Justin Beiber and on and on, you will see how the grandest chess/hockey match in history is shaping up.
Punk the punker!
Isn't the global economy great! I'm sure glad we shipped all of our high tech to China. It's fun to help our friends kick our ass.
joe, remember when there were all these factory jobs in the USA and then, over a period of a few short years, all the equipment and all the jobs got shipped to China?
Remember when the American people complained about tax incentives to ship away jobs?
Remember when actual subsidies were revealed that actually facilitated transfering technical know-how and technology to China?
Remember when the only response we got from our phony "democratically" elected officials was a mantra about the glories of the Free Market?
And remember how our trusted (bribed and corrupted) Representatives served us up a hot plate full of platitudes like"Americans are Exceptional...we can compete with ANYONE!" even as our trade deals busted unions and ensured continued outflow of capital from the USA to Asia? Hell, watch Obambam on TV today...you can still hear that CRAP!
Well, Joe, now the Chinese are going to go into full CONFISCATION mode...
I can only hope that all that paper wealth that the TRAITORS and LIARS feathered their nests with at the expense of the American People will become so much confetti.
Rape them, CHINA! Rape those lying, "Free Market/Free Trade" dirt bags!
America will be better off in the long run if CHINA fucks these douche bags.
Yes I remember it all clearly when it started in industries like textiles, machine tools etc. I was working in silicon valley where they started imported engineers with workers visas that they could pay shit and treat like shit. We were being told not to worry about our jobs right up until the time that we were training our replacements to work in our jobs here in silicon valley and eventually in Asia-inc. We have had our political leaders tell us that we would basically educate ourselves out of this problem but to this I ask educate ouselves into what? If you can't exist as an engineer in a high tech field what are we going to train into doing? Do they expect people with average intelligence to all become brain surgeons? We need a new political party called;
WHAT THE FUCK DID YOU CRIMINALS DO WITH OUR JOBS!!!
but surely,
not your jobs, the Corporation owns the jobs, and no minimum waged requirements always award the job to the lowest "bid".
not your jobs, the "intelligence" required for your jobs is being well met by the other billions looking for a waged job.
not your jobs. any more.
I remember when they offshored all the electronics manufacturing, and my career in STEM dead ended. It is part of the plan to destroy America, and by all accounts, it is working as planned.
Next up, US govt hires Chinese spies and hackers becoz they are cheaper and more qualified and more experienced. Next after that, US blobs vote in Chinese President becoz he iz cheepa and mor qolifide and mor expeerienst!
You know, I really miss the "Good Old Days" of the Cold War back in the '70's when I was a young NCO in the Army when we were the "Imperialist Running Dogs" & "Capitalist Lap Dog Lackeys". You know what I mean. Insults with some real meat on the bones.
Calling me a "mincing rascal" & a "high-level hooligan" just doesn't have the same punch as it did in the "Good Old Days".
Sigh. Oh, well. Maybe next time.
They can't even look you in the eye anymore.
I tell all my friends "don't run away cuz that's the only thing that makes me go psycho."
And all I have now is a pair of glasses. I have been known to take them off on occasion.
Is that a threat?
Great.
When do we start making things in the U.S. again and get our jobs back?
http://www.bloomberg.com/video/huawei-is-growing-u-s-business-not-exitin...
Huawei Is Growing U.S. Business, Not Exiting: Li
Forced to put secure cloud in non police state.... Thanks NSA thanks neocons.
Why anyone would listen to these consulting firms is beyond me.....
Sure looks like the BRIICSaA are going for a KO punch asap.
Hard to keep track of them dancing around Uncle Scam.
When can people start whipping Obama voters in public ?
This is all so excellent!
Go, China, GO!
Confiscate all that money, factories, skills invested by American and Transnational companies!
Love it! Take it all! Bankrupt those scum!
I have one of those Mincing Rascals and I love it, bought it off one of those late-night informercials, with the five blade choices and infinite speed controls, it helps me to eat healthy and it came with a set of five snake knives, three shuriken, and a set of plutonium nunchucks.
Awesome deal, I buy all my goods from late night infomercials, especially good deals after I have had about a dozen beers and been up all night.
The global cartel of hooligans is breaking the honor amongst thieves code by outing each others criminal behavior.
Meanwhile, back at the Spratly Islands ...
To compete against Vietnam and the Philippines for sovereignty over the disputed Spratly islands, China is looking to build an artificial island in the South China Sea, according to China's nationalistic Global Times tabloid on May 25.
The artifical island, which will be built by the Shanghai-based China Shipbuilding Ninth Design and Research Institute (NDRI) Engineering, is likely to be constructed around the Johnson South Reef, part of the Spratly islands currently under Chinese administration.
Beijing has asserted it claim to the reef, known as Chigua Reef in Chinese. China claimed six small islands in the vicinity of the reef after a brief naval battle between Chinese and Vietnamese forces on March 14, 1988 in which more than 70 Vietnamese sailors died.
http://www.wantchinatimes.com/news-subclass-cnt.aspx?cid=1101&MainCatID=...
I think Toshiba has the most spies from Japan. Hyundai in Korea. Of course everyone is stealing ideas and plans from everyone they can. So China finally admits we spy on them with our companies? Get a grip@! Of course we do!
Calling Mr. Snowden...
Given that the rest of the world willingly gave their technological secrets to China, when did the rest of the world suddenly decide that now China had a few good ideas of her own that were worth spying on?
Here's an idea I got from China: Have a huge, cheap, labour force and ignore patent laws, plus openly declare you are communist while "settling for a bit of capitalism here and there" and the world will beat a path to your door step and hand you all their secrets, and manufacturing, on a gold platter.
I hope I don't get done for spying.
The capitalists didn't just sell the rope to their enemies. They sold the farm to them as well. Plus they ran advertising campaigns explaining why all would still be well.
The world's biggest capitalists sold themselves to the world's biggest communists.
So San Farancisco wants a State Sponsored denial of service attack meh?
"Bend over...here it comes."
China is producing most of the shit that the West consumes. What should stop them to implant devices or any chip into the goods that they export back to the US? I mean, common, they hold those iPhones EVERY day in their hands. Implant a Spy chip in every iPhone and start back-spying on the US.
Nah, they are not dumb. They wouldn't spend money to record, save and analyse grandma's in Florida talking about their dogs to friends in Milwaukee.
According to Snow-den, all well-known us tech cos are agents or quasi-agents on behalf of NSA ( Not Secure Anywhere)....That is a FACT. See here, Mic(e)rowsolved widows 8, check, banned. Cease-go rouser-router, check, to be scrutinized and then banned. Intel(ligence) chip, to be checked, then banned...A-M-D???
NOw, all us consulting firms are....deemed to be agents for NSA? ( barred per se...what if those consulting firms sue for defamation? well....then....we might see some evidence to make it a FACT?????) next in line: big CPA firms...next in line..US law firms...next in line...Certainly US banks...next in line..all us companies...next in line...
Thank you, NSA ( no, not that NSA, but Not Secure Anywhere, not affiliated with NSA that you know....)
Sooner or later...tomorrow/20 years from now...China is just going to flip the bird to the US and trade will be corn (food/products) for junk...no IOUs... You want Chinese trinkets, you pay in food or material goods. The US really doesn't need China...what are the Japanese up to??? they still know how to make electronics? No..but this relationship is going to break up sooner or later.
The editorial in the Global Times was published on 20 May-- a week ago. After reviewing the events and the US/NSA spying revelations.It encouraged the named military officers to sue the US for defamation.The article ended on the statement: 'Zài w?ngluò ?nquán wèntí shàng, m?iguó jiùshì y?gè zhu?ngqi?ngzuòshì de “g?ojí liúmáng”, w?men qiè bùk? duì nàgè guóji? bào shénme huànxi?ng' (On network security issues , the United States is a pretentious "Advanced rogue ," we must not hold any illusions on that country'. I do not know where the FT and the other news agencies got the translation of 'mincing rascal' but 'high-level hooligan' could be an alternative for 'advanced rogue'. Whatever suits your messaging. Actually 'liumang' or hooligan today has a less serious meaning as a popular literary genre is 'hooligan fiction'--perhaps like gangster/ mob fiction in the US.
"...to cut ties with US consulting companies such as McKinsey and Boston Consulting Group because of fears they are spying on behalf of the US government..."
they fear?? are they total fucktards? of course the us spies on the chinese and they do it through consulting mobs as mentioned in the article....have the chicoms not read confesssions of an economic hit man?....and they say americans are boobs.
MINCING RASCALS...lol, I love Chinese propaganda, it is the funniest, I guess the US is still in shock and awe at China's awesome come back, would also make a brilliant avatar