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Europe Voted: Anti-EU And Protest Parties Take Nearly A Third Of All Europarliament Seats

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For those pressed for time, here is the one-chart post-mortem of what happened in yesterday's elections for European Parliament: the malcontents block, or the anti-EU and protest parties, soar and now control nearly a third of all seats, up nearly by 33% from a fifth currently, in the parliament they all predominantly loathe.

And for everyone else, here is the full analysis of the results courtesy of Open Europe.

Open Europe Flash Analysis

Anti-EU and protest parties across Europe on course to win almost a third of all seats in new European Parliament

Open Europe has today responded to the preliminary 2014 European Parliament elections results. Please note that these figures are based on a combination of final results and some projections so could still be subject to change. However, we do not consider any substantial swings likely. 

Open Europe Director Mats Persson said:

“The rise of anti-EU and protest parties on the left and right will make European politics more unpredictable but, paradoxically, it could also strengthen the resolve of the three mainstream groups to continue to vote for more Europe in the European Parliament, in order to freeze out the anti-EU contingent.”  

“The temptation in Brussels and national capitals will be to view this as the peak of anti-EU sentiment as the eurozone crisis calms down and the economy improves. This would be a huge gamble. The make-up and reasons for the rise of these parties are complex, but it’s clear that the best way to cut off their oxygen is to show that the EU can reform itself and respond to voters. These elections are a clear warning: offer voters a polarised choice between more Europe and no Europe and sooner or later they will choose the latter.”

“David Cameron now faces a seriously tricky week. He has two main challenges. First, he will try to muster enough allies to block Jean-Claude Juncker, the front-runner for European Commission President, although it’s not looking overly promising. Second, he faces the dilemma of aligning himself with more nationalist parties to secure his party’s standing in the EP, which comes with the risk of alienating his natural allies on the centre-right who will be crucial in his bid to achieve EU reform.”

“Domestically, the strong anti-incumbency showing could strengthen the legitimacy of many of these parties. In many countries, voting for an anti-establishment party in the European elections serves as a gateway drug – it crosses a border that allows you to vote for them in a national election as well.”

Key points:

  • Share of anti-EU and anti-establishment vote is slightly higher than expected with such parties collectively on course to win 229 out of 751 seats in the new European Parliament (30.5%), up from 164 out of 766 seats in the current parliament (21.4%).
  • European Parliament politics are set to become more unpredictable though the anti-EU and anti-establishment block remains incoherent and the two main groups will continue to dominate.
  • The share of MEPs dedicated to free market policies drops, from 32% to 28.1%.
  • Compared to 2009, overall turnout stayed flat despite more powers for MEPs in the Lisbon Treaty and the EU becoming a high-profile issue in the wake of the Eurozone crisis.
  • Several anti-incumbent parties in the EP for the first time, ranging from Feminist Initiative in Sweden to Spain’s new leftist movement Podemos, founded as late as March 2014.

Below is the European Parliament’s own projected make-up of the political groups - we expect no major changes.

1. Turnout remains low

Across the EU, average turnout is projected at 43.09% – up from 43% in 2009. Turnout was highest in Luxembourg and Belgium at 90% (where voting is compulsory) and lowest in Slovakia at 13%. These were the first European elections since the Lisbon Treaty, which gave MEPs another batch of new powers. In addition to the Eurozone crisis making the EU a front page issue, we should have expected an increase in voters’ interest. Though technically reversing the trend of declining turnout, this still doesn’t inspire confidence in pan-European democracy. 

2. Surge in anti-EU vote in several countries

The table outlines how well the various parties that occupy the populist, anti-establishment, anti-EU and/or anti-immigration vote in several countries did. Note that we do not claim that these parties can be lumped together – in many cases they are very different. However, it’s still a barometer of dissatisfaction in these countries and across Europe.

Below is a table showing the performance of a number of left-wing, anti-austerity and alternative parties:

In terms of the most notable results, Marine Le Pen's Front National achieved a clear victory with around 25%, exceeding most expectations. In Denmark, the strongly EU-critical Danish People's Party won the elections with about 26.7% of the vote.  In Greece, the anti-austerity SYRIZA – that, it should be noted, does not advocate withdrawal from the EU or euro, came top with 26.5% of the vote, while the neo-Nazi Golden Dawn came third with 9.4% of votes.

However, in some countries insurgent parties did less well than expected; in Finland, the (True) Finns only scored 12.9% compared to the over 20% they were polling in the run-up, while in Italy, Beppe Grillo’s 5 Star Movement also underperformed as the governing centre-left PD party unexpectedly surged to around 40% (although Grillo still came second on 21.2%). Some of these parties even lost support such as Belgium’s Vlaams Balang – down from 9.85% in 2009 to around 4.31%.

In Germany, despite easily coming top overall, the CDU and CSU performed relatively poorly by its recent standards, while the SPD enjoyed its best result for a long time. However, the anti-euro AfD looks set to win 7 MEPs and, due to the Constitutional Court ruling to drop the 3% threshold in Germany, a number of smaller parties have won seats including the neo-Nazi NPD.

In Spain, the result has dealt a blow to the country’s traditional two-party system. Together, Prime Minister Mariano Rajoy’s Partido Popular (PP) and the opposition Socialist Party (PSOE) won 80.9% in 2009. Yesterday, their combined score was 49.06%. Interestingly, a new leftist movement called Podemos (We Can) – officially established only two months ago – came from nowhere to win almost 8% of the vote and secure five seats in the next European Parliament.

3. Reformers risk getting crowded out  

Using the same criteria employed in our pre-election briefing[1], we have divided these parties into several different groups consisting of a ‘Malcontents block’, ‘Critical Reformers’, and parties that overwhelmingly back the status quo or further integration.

While this looks like an impressive amount, these parties are not a coherent group, ranging from parties with experience of government through to fringe protest parties to outright neo-fascists. They also have widely differing views on a range of issues such as the eurozone, immigration and economic issues. As such, these parties will struggle to work together to put forward an alternative agenda for the European parliament, although they could well club together on certain issues such seeking to block the EU-US free trade agreement.

In order to distinguish between the ‘Malcontents Block’ and parties that reject the status quo but have a constructive reform agenda, Open Europe also included a distinct ‘critical reformers’ category which contains the bulk of the Conservative MEPs, alongside parties like the Dutch VVD and the German CSU. This block has been squeezed by the Malcontents’ block on one side and the status quo/more integrationist parties on the other.

We also estimate that the share of MEPs explicitly committed to free trade in the next parliament will fall to 28.1% compared with 32% in the current parliament while the share of MEPs hostile to free trade will increase to 23.8% compared with 23% at present. This means that the success or otherwise of free trade agreements will depend on the key block of ‘swing voters’ which will go up to 47.9% compared to 46% at present.

Despite the substantial increase in support for the parties making up the ‘Malcontents’ Block’, this needs to be kept in the context of the low turnout. When looking at their vote share among the whole eligible electorate, this looks less impressive. However, the low turnout also underlines that the European Parliament has failed to capture the public’s imagination.

4. Expect a major scramble to extend and secure political groups

To maintain or create a political group in the European Parliament – which gives individual parties access to important positions and more money – requires 25 MEPs from at least 7 countries.

All eyes will be on whether Marine Le Pen and Geert Wilders will be successful in establishing a new far-right group. A set-back for this potential group was the very poor showing by Vlaams Belang and the failure of the Slovak National Party to win any seats. This leaves the new ‘Alliance for Freedom’ group one member state short for the time being.

David Cameron’s European Conservatives and Reformists (ECR) will survive but looks set to lose MEPs. To extend the group, the big question is whether Cameron will reach out to more nationalist parties, including the Danish People’s Party that could offer 4 new MEPs, AfD that could potentially offer 7 MEPs, and the Finns Party which could offer 2. The trade-off is that this could potentially alienate possible reform allies on the liberal centre-right.

5. Race for Commission President: Juncker the front runner

The proposed Spitzenkandidaten or European Parliamentary families’ candidates for European Commission President – the centre-right EPP’s Jean-Claude Juncker and the centre-left Socialists’ Martin Schulz – are set to make the post-election horse-trading and politicking more fraught than usual. EU leaders retain the power to propose an alternative candidate, but the European Parliament’s veto over the appointment could lead to a stand-off and protracted negotiations.

The centre-right EPP’s victory in the elections means that the next Commission President will have to come from this side of the political spectrum. The European Parliament will demand that the EPP’s lead candidate, former Luxembourg PM Jean-Claude Juncker, is selected. EU leaders, with the strong support of the UK, are likely to try to pick their own alternative candidate.

Senior German politicians including the CDU’s David McAllister, a close Merkel ally, another senior figure in the CDU Volker Kauder and the SPD Vice-Chancellor Sigmar Gabriel have all said that the most popular candidate in the European Parliament should become Commission President. This will put Merkel under pressure to go for Juncker, with Germany likely to be crucial in determining the outcome.

Next steps:

Tuesday 27 May: The spitzenkandidaten will meet and put pressure on EU leaders to pick Juncker, although Martin Schulz could yet try to cobble together an alternative majority within the parliament.

EU leaders meet for dinner – leaders will try to avoid discussing individual candidates but could agree amongst themselves on the process for selecting the Commission President. They may argue they cannot negotiate with MEPs until the exact make-up of the new parliament is known (probably by mid-June).

Mid-June: Exact make-up of party groups in the new European Parliament will be clearer.

26-27 June – summit of EU leaders who are likely to propose their candidate. Centre-right alternatives to Juncker could include Finnish PM Jyrki Katainen, Polish PM Donald Tusk, or Irish PM Enda Kenny.

14-17 July: Parliament decides whether to elect or reject EU leaders’ proposed candidate for Commission President by a majority vote of MEPs. Should EU leaders’ candidate be rejected, EU leaders have one month to propose a new candidate.

Mid-July: potentially another summit of EU leaders in attempt to reach compromise with European Parliament.

6. What does it mean for Cameron?

The new European Parliament will be crucial in determining whether David Cameron can achieve many of the key planks of his renegotiation strategy. The new parliament has the potential to block reforms to EU migrants’ access to welfare benefits, an ambitious free trade agreement with the US, and efforts to reduce EU red tape for businesses.

The results are a double-edged sword for Cameron. On the one hand, the result itself may, paradoxically, make the EP more integrationist by crowding out the reformers in the middle. At the same time, the surge in the anti-EU vote in some countries may serve as a wake-up call for EU leaders: if not reform, voters may soon vote out the baby with the bathwater.

 

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Mon, 05/26/2014 - 09:37 | 4795185 SafelyGraze
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this is great.

now that they have their seats at the table and can feel like they are part of the process, maybe they will finally come over to our way of thinking

hugs,
the unelected presidencia of the unelected counsilia  

Mon, 05/26/2014 - 09:54 | 4795224 NoDebt
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Should be interesting to see how TPTB marginalize these groups.  Tactics used, speed at which they are implemented.

Remember, we all greatly understimate the political capital invested in the EU blah blah blah.

Mon, 05/26/2014 - 09:57 | 4795231 MillionDollarBonus_
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Voting against the European Union is wildly misguided when we desperately need more integration and unification in global politics, not less. The European Union has seen an end to centuries of war within Europe and has seen some of the greatest political scholars unite to work on some of the world's toughest problems: climate change, poverty and world peace. An end to the European Union would be absolutely disastrous, undoing one of the greatest experiments in all of political history. In order to successfully challenge today's inherently global issues, we are going to need to pool together our nations' resources and unite behind a common purpose. I understand this is a difficult step for many nationalists and free marketers, but it's a necessary step in our progression towards a modern liberal democracy.

Mon, 05/26/2014 - 10:16 | 4795271 Bollixed
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You have an "OBAMA 2016" bumper sticker on your Yugo, don't you...

Mon, 05/26/2014 - 10:48 | 4795349 Four chan
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so this is what voting looks like if the election isn't rigged by one or two parties, force feeding you manchurian candidates or retarded relatives of past rulers.

Mon, 05/26/2014 - 12:55 | 4795687 hot sauce technician
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+1 for "retarded relatives of past rulers".

Mon, 05/26/2014 - 13:57 | 4795891 TBT or not TBT
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Caroline Kennedy.

Mon, 05/26/2014 - 16:33 | 4796360 August
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Not retarded, just unqualified.

Mon, 05/26/2014 - 10:19 | 4795278 free_lunch
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MDB, I liked you better when you were selling your springwater, at least that was funny!  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=znJh0FZ-gdo

Mon, 05/26/2014 - 14:30 | 4796029 shovelhead
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Worked for me, praise the Lord.

Not only am I debt free but my bleeding piles are cured too.

Mon, 05/26/2014 - 10:27 | 4795299 intric8
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You are one LOST mother fucker, spewing that tripe around here

Your views will be warmly welcomed at BIzinsider. They are very bozo friendly there. Try reddit too, now jew owned, moderating comments with pro russian points of view so they never see the light of day

Mon, 05/26/2014 - 10:33 | 4795311 TeamDepends
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We used to write rebuttals similar to this until one day we took the plunge and visited his site.  He is pulling your chain.  Read it again, hilarious!

Mon, 05/26/2014 - 10:47 | 4795348 intric8
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If he's attempting to employ subtle satire, i dont have the patience nor interest to follow it through. Sifting through western propaganda just poops me out

Mon, 05/26/2014 - 11:02 | 4795379 NotApplicable
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Subtle?????

Reductio Absurdum, I'd say.

 

Mon, 05/26/2014 - 12:59 | 4795702 hot sauce technician
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Took the words right out of my mouth. MDB is a Hall of Fame troller.

Mon, 05/26/2014 - 14:31 | 4796033 shovelhead
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Try the holy water and you'll poop just fine

Mon, 05/26/2014 - 10:32 | 4795310 zippy_uk
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Thats the 1984 version, as in:

* Having a dynamic Euro for the most competative economy in the noughties = Abject economic stagnation in the teenies

* Pooling and sharing resources for optimal effective use = most corrupt and inefficient use of reources

* Uniting Europeans under one supreme democracy = convescating all democracy in Europe and uniting everyone under one unelected supreme court dictatorship

* Promoting European values = promoting ones self interested if an Eurocrat at the expense of everyone else

* Free trade area = corrupt, protectionist environment for big politics and big business at the expense of everyone else

* Promoting advanced justice and human rights = kangeroo court and massive expenses for the tax payer due to waccy judgments

* socialised solidarity = crap severices and high taxes

You may be right in the analysis but the reality on the ground says something else entirely.

Where I come from we have had the Magna Carter for over 900 years and the mother of all Parliaments to go with it - so we know better (highest any EU vote share = UKIP).

Mon, 05/26/2014 - 13:02 | 4795710 hot sauce technician
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Spoken like a true libertarian.

Mon, 05/26/2014 - 10:34 | 4795315 F0ster
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I remember Europe before these unelected communists took power. It was a much more prosperous place for the average person. These EU criminals are trying to consolidate Europe under one power structure, Hitler's vision.

Mon, 05/26/2014 - 11:28 | 4795433 Ghordius
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lovely. a very well researched and balanced ZH article about the just recently elected EU parliament, it's composition among conservatives, liberals, socialists and various EU skeptical, a thoughtful analysis about how the EP interacts in co-decision with the EU Council, particularly in regard to the next commission and...

the first comment sports an "unelected" and yours "unelected communists", together with an "Hitler's vision"

the only thing I'm missing is that US NeoCon refrain from the 90's about Europe going down in nationalist & fascist flames, though I'm quite sure I'll find it further down

@Safely Graze: the EU Council is: PM Cameron, Chancellor Merkel, President Hollande, etc. etc. the EU governments, in our parlance

do you even know which one of them is elected, not elected, appointed, not appointed, confirmed or not confirmed by parliament, etc. etc. ?

Mon, 05/26/2014 - 14:05 | 4795929 TBT or not TBT
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A lot of different political brand names for more central planning.

Mon, 05/26/2014 - 14:35 | 4796046 shovelhead
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Who cares as long as you can buy straight cucumbers.

Mon, 05/26/2014 - 10:38 | 4795326 BeetleBailey
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MDB: I thought I told you to scrub toilets in the biker bathroom until you die....

GET BACK ON IT

Mon, 05/26/2014 - 11:02 | 4795381 BrigstockBoy
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"...greatest political scholars..." Haha, pure gold MDB. Funniest man on ZH.

Mon, 05/26/2014 - 11:11 | 4795401 Mute Button
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In terms of war, in place of France vs. Germany, now we have the EU vs. Russia. Looks like a failure when you compare the scale.

Mon, 05/26/2014 - 14:10 | 4795948 TBT or not TBT
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The real war is horrible demographics vs both.

Mon, 05/26/2014 - 11:50 | 4795504 doctor10
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Seriously? You left off the /s switch on that post!!

"modern liberal democracies" are simply a 20th century relic. The only issue at hand is whether their death will be traumatic or from natural causes -as it should be.

If nothing else their very indebtedness defines their lack of structural utility to their citizens.

Simply making a bigger mess isn't a solution. When you're in a hole stop digging. The same minds that created the problem are not capable of visualizing or implementing a solution. 

To any rational, sentient being "modern liberal democracies" have had their day.

Mon, 05/26/2014 - 12:53 | 4795679 H. Perowne
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*trollface* Problem, officer?

Mon, 05/26/2014 - 13:40 | 4795844 Archduke
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absolutely. I like your courage.

we need a full euro federation.

it's the only sane option.

Mon, 05/26/2014 - 14:27 | 4796011 RumCurrency
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Little history lesson for you:

The Decline and Fall of the Athenian Republic authored more than 200 years ago said it best.  “A democracy cannot exist as a permanent form of government.  It can only exist until voters discover that they can vote themselves largesse from the public treasury.  From that moment on, the majority always votes for the candidates promising the most benefits from the public treasury, with the result that a democracy always collapses over loose fiscal policy, always followed by a dictatorship.”

Europeans never learn from history.  Enjoy your next crop of Hitlers and Mussolini's in the coming decades.  The US might be able to smarten up before it gets to that point, but there is no hope for Europe, again.

Mon, 05/26/2014 - 14:45 | 4796079 Ghostdog
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Climate change, poverty and war are more prevelent than ever.. so much for unification of the "greatest poltiical scholars"....

Mon, 05/26/2014 - 17:08 | 4796423 eXMachina
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I think you got lost somewhere between here and1984 comrade.

Mon, 05/26/2014 - 11:46 | 4795498 ForWhomTheTollBuilds
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I have already started noticing it.  The Globe And Mail site has the headline "How much damage have euroskeptics done?" this morning and I'm certain this is the second such headline I've seen (the other showed a pic of Farage getting blasted in a pub with a headline about troublemakers running wild in Europe).

 

Maybe it's just a coincidence, but I've noticed a "crusade against doubt" being run by the mainstream press lately.  The purpose is obviously to stifle any independant thought by announcing that various devilishly complex matters have been sorted out by the experts and its time now for action, not the endless debate insisted on by knuckle dragging ignorami.

 

I have no dog in the Eurozone fight so I like to think I am a bit more objective.  And so I see those who question anything done in Brussels as "Skeptics" and obvious racists.  I also see anyone who has any questions about any aspect of "Climate Change" or of what we must do to fight it being labeled a "denier".  

 

DENIERS and SKEPTICS all of you!!!

Mon, 05/26/2014 - 13:13 | 4795742 hot sauce technician
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MSM = dictionary definition of "obfuscate".

The sociopaths create distractions e.g. mild chaos, to subdue public opinion. I think the Romans called it "divide and conquer". Ensure a certain amount of uncertainty always exists about fundamental issues. Exploit uncertainty to introduce so called (very self serving) panacea. Use public opinion to then legislate. Rinse repeat.

Mon, 05/26/2014 - 14:40 | 4796065 shovelhead
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My favorite was "they got the message".

OK, now we're serious...no more dithering. We have to move to decisive vacillation.

Mon, 05/26/2014 - 15:32 | 4796218 disabledvet
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My favorite was "neo fascists" actually.

Ummm, well..."no, actually those are real fascists." And yes, those are real Nazi's too.

Shall we have another election so we can remove any doubt?

UKIP winning huge is an absolutely stunning blow...and obviously the end of "Europe."

Nigel Farage now is in charge of Great Britain...and he has a "voice that carries" as they say.

Good luck comparing him to Hitler.

"The Little Corporal." Only in America is that an insult.

To my knowledge Napoleon was never anything other than officer...and it was his soldiers who gave him that moniker.

Needless to say US Grant never was much for the fancy swords and epulets either. Homeless and broke before the Civil War broke out.

He asked Robert E Lee if he remembered him but he never had those "social graces" so Lee just couldn't figure.

Still there was never any doubt as to who was surrendering to who. "Generous in peace too"...and boy did Grant love those horses.

Loved math and knew how to write an Operation Order probably better than any Commander in History.

General Sherman never had a problem following Grant's orders. Ever.

Mon, 05/26/2014 - 10:01 | 4795243 ugmug
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The Liberal Three S's

 

It is a well know fact that liberals want society to be based on the three S's and not the three R's. The three S's are homeless shelters, workless shelters, and brainless shelters. This dangerous shelter mentality has given rise to numerous repressive governments over the centuries like, communism, socialism, fascism, marxism, etc.

 

Liberals will greedily use government power to transform society into a homeless shelter where everyone will be fed, and will be given a bed, and receive little else. Liberals will also use government power to transform businesses into a workless shelter where everyone will be given a paycheck and benefits and do little else. And finally liberals will use government power to transform schools into brainless shelters where everyone will be given a diploma and straight A's for just feeling smart.

 

The three S's will guarantee the liberals a permanent voting majority until society ceases to be a human endeavor and reverts to an animalistic, cannibalistic, ghetto....like Detroit, Chicago, and many other liberal cities around the globe.

 

Mon, 05/26/2014 - 12:31 | 4795619 Anybody
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maybe neoliberals?

Mon, 05/26/2014 - 09:39 | 4795191 _ConanTheLibert...
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The anti vote by country is outdated. Belgium is now at the top.

Mon, 05/26/2014 - 09:42 | 4795199 XXL66
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n-va is (unfortunally) not anti EU.

Mon, 05/26/2014 - 10:00 | 4795241 _ConanTheLibert...
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Damn it!

Mon, 05/26/2014 - 10:22 | 4795236 free_lunch
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I bet you bought some magical springwater too?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=znJh0FZ-gdo

 

NVa pleading for more EU integration and less national sovereignty:

http://www.tijd.be/dossier/verkiezingen2014/Chat_met_Europees_lijsttrekk...

 

Or just check the NVa Q&A on their website..

 

Mon, 05/26/2014 - 09:39 | 4795193 Azannoth
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When you put it like this(in a chart) ... it seems NOTHING HAS FUKCING CHANGED! 20% to 30% rly are people this stupid ... yes they are.

Mon, 05/26/2014 - 10:07 | 4795259 Anasteus
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Not really. Similarly as in physics, the point is a critical mass that launches nuclear reaction.

Mon, 05/26/2014 - 14:13 | 4795961 TBT or not TBT
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Statism is the common thread between all of these European parties. This sucker is goin down.

Mon, 05/26/2014 - 09:46 | 4795201 falak pema
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The demise of French main parties on EZ scene as of the same in UK for EU; as represented in the new EU parliament; makes Mutti all the more powerful in EU council; and her man will run the EU Commission. 

So get ready for German hegemony now controlling even more EU governance.

Unless... The French political scene becomes ungovernable and leads to national elections. As for UK the next test is Scottish devolution. 

Renzi's win makes Italy solid behind Draghi and support to Club Med sovereigns Austerity but in a context which pleads for Euro weakening relative to $. What real margin of maneuver does Draghi have to go to negative rates?

Currency wars will hotten up and make the global ship more fragile.

No bridge over troubled waters in 2014 ! 

Mon, 05/26/2014 - 11:40 | 4795485 Ghordius
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I could make the same case of Spain, Portugal, Italy, Greece and a couple of others all getting behind France. soonish

nevertheless, the German OrdoLiberal system has been acknowledged by all of them as the superior governance system... even by Hollande, lately

and, as for the BuBa governance system, it's too German in it's conception, and European by adoption. Like the Germanic Tribal Warlord of the Francs called... Carolus Magnus (Charlemain, Charlemagne)

hegemony by system is not the same as hegemony by national interest

Mon, 05/26/2014 - 14:16 | 4795974 TBT or not TBT
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France already has a big horny brute bothering it's backside. The ubiquitous government of France and its electoral cartel of direct employees and dependents.

Mon, 05/26/2014 - 16:27 | 4796164 falak pema
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Ghordius, your avatar has an appointment with destiny : Is the Euro a tool for Oligarchy control of first world or is it a tool for unity of European people? Let's keep it simple. The aim at inception was to serve the second hypothesis not the first.

That in essence is why the Euro was created as a political compromise between France and Germany reunited post Berlin wall fall.

As France is NOT capable of keeping up to Germany's effort of modernisation we have a new equilibrium emerging,  as France is both a nation born from Charles Magnus but also from the Revolution; aka a social agenda which makes "productivity" gains all the more necessary to pay for the social legacy of the Revolution and solidarity; especially as we have a common money.

But as we all know Reaganomic's Pax Americana and Outsourcing have changed the capitalistic colour and social texture of First World beyond recognition. Globalisation is something imposed by Pax Americana on Europe; which was not prepared for it socially (although the Euro banks thought they were; and now we are their hostages totally).

So the divide we see today is a sum of two linked conundrums facing the European zone: the World moves to Oligarchy rule  and this entails Regional fracture as a result between North and South Europe models.

It makes a heady mixture and we are now in a situation where an aging Europe is in the cross fire of history--like a richer but  structurally indebted USA; whence the resurgence of neo-fascist knee jerks and rejection of "the other".

So tipping times. Your subtlety about hegemony seems secondary as the gulf of CIVILIZAtION divide now opens up under the very feet of the citizens of European nations. 

This crisis will either lead to the fall of democracy in First world or to the fall of Oligarchy and THAT CONFLICt, alas inevitable, given the European legacy of social conflicts, will shake first world to it roots.

That is my own personal take and I think that this shift in French Political structure will not spell well for the STRUCTURALLY spawned social divides that are appearing like demons from Pandora's box.

Unfortunately neither the Eurozone nor the Euro Nations are capable of solving this complex challenge  in their current evolution and its descent into Convolution. 

Not saying this crisis is unsolvable; but the price the next generations will pay will be very heavy. 

Tue, 05/27/2014 - 02:45 | 4796377 Ghordius
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it's a tool, indeed. imho the French political structure needs some shaking, badly 

Mon, 05/26/2014 - 09:44 | 4795204 JustObserving
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In other news, Karzai refuses to meet Nobel Prize Winner and  droner-in-chief

The Afghan president refused to visit the Bagram military base when US President Barack Obama made a surprise visit there to meet troops on May 25. Similarly, the American president turned down a proposal for talks at Karzai’s palace in downtown Kabul.

http://rt.com/news/161444-karzai-refused-talk-obama/

Mon, 05/26/2014 - 10:35 | 4795320 BeetleBailey
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Cunts don't like each other

Karzai: SMELLY CRIMINAL CUNT

Fuckbama: LYING, FRAUD OF A CUNT.

Mon, 05/26/2014 - 09:45 | 4795207 Confundido
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It's just a protest vote...right? Bearish for gold, in any case...Those peoples are extremists, right? The only problem is...they seem to be pretty persistent protesters..

Mon, 05/26/2014 - 14:18 | 4795981 TBT or not TBT
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They're all statists, every last one.

Mon, 05/26/2014 - 09:47 | 4795212 Chief_Illiniwek
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When the EU begins to be dismantled/downsized - as a result of actions taken by the EU parliament - call me...

Mon, 05/26/2014 - 09:48 | 4795214 buzzsaw99
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only 1/3? Thank you sir! May I have another? [/C. Diller]

Mon, 05/26/2014 - 09:48 | 4795215 Space Animatoltipap
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Polarisation is the name of the game. Very nice. Let the EU totally desintegrate. Let´s have domestic violence. That´s the only way most people wake up and come to humility and God consciousness. 

Mon, 05/26/2014 - 14:23 | 4796003 TBT or not TBT
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Europe has suffered the unseen violence of heavy state intervention for so long they are missing tens of millions of young men and women of age to form families and live the good life, the real life. Materialistic hedonist nihilism protected and encouraged by the death dealing numbing corrupting state. Cashing their checks and having fun for the eternal present while it all winds down slowly but surely around them.

Mon, 05/26/2014 - 10:02 | 4795245 Billy O'Naire
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The French result is the big news of the night.

The French are the left ventricle of the EU's beating heart. It's a big show of anti EU sentiment which isn't going away anytime soon.

The Greeks have turned to an anti-bailout party and have a weak coalition government who must be fearful looking at these results.

Us Brits and the French are key net contributors to the EU project. We're where Mr Barroso gets a sizeable chunk of his cash.

 

The EU isn't finished by any means. It's true that these MEPs can't dismantle it from the inside.

But they don't need to. Even just one referendum or election somewhere could lead one country to exit. When that happens, others can say, why not us?

This night isn't major in itself. Rather, it's one slab of a walkway the EU is taking that spells trouble for the federalists.

Given the problems many on this site see coming, and the EU's general impotence in solving them (as a key cause itself), the EU looks to be in the kind of trouble it won't get out of.

Mon, 05/26/2014 - 10:35 | 4795318 andrewp111
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If an EU State votes to exit (secede), the real question becomes then does the EU Commission send in troops? It could come down to a confrontation over an EU police barracks that refuses to vacate the seceded State - analogous to Fort Sumter.

Tue, 05/27/2014 - 02:46 | 4797589 Ghordius
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then it's a good thing that we don't have neither federal military forces nor federal police forces, eh?

Mon, 05/26/2014 - 14:32 | 4796038 TBT or not TBT
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Europe is a declining sum game, as are most of its nation states, but...here is the kicker...by varying degrees nation by nation, and region by region. If it were an increasing sum game, bringing prosperity, there would not be such bitter divisiveness.

Mon, 05/26/2014 - 10:02 | 4795246 AdvancingTime
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It's hard to see anything resembling a case for optimism anywhere on the continent. Even though the Spanish government's borrowing costs have fallen since the ECB introduced its backstop.

Even after this action unemployment has reached new highs in both Spain and across the Euro-zone. In Spain small and medium-sized enterprises can't get capital except on prohibitively expensive terms.Again I'm forced to say the structural problems facing Europe remain mostly unaddressed. Nothing is different, more on the problems facing Europe in the article below.

http://brucewilds.blogspot.com/2013/05/europe-has-not-rounded-corner.htm...

Mon, 05/26/2014 - 12:16 | 4795587 Döwnner
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Fuck you and your blog.

Peddle your fucking blog on your own dime you fuck. Don't use ZH to publicize your pathetic blog.

Mon, 05/26/2014 - 10:03 | 4795251 thestarl
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With the situation in the Ukraine deteriorating and more Europeans wanting out of the EU debacle I agree with other comments regarding a major false flag in the maybe not to distant future.

Either way can't help but think being net energy importers they're totally screwed and they have NIRP hanging over their heads.

Mon, 05/26/2014 - 12:05 | 4795560 doctor10
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Crimea and Donetsk were basically "business" decisions by their citizens. Got themselves out from under a potential EU banker bootheel.

Mon, 05/26/2014 - 14:38 | 4796061 TBT or not TBT
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Hungry Puppies struggle to get the most productive teat. The Russian kleptocratic regime sits atop a big spigot. The EU is a productive gas factory, of gaseous rhetoric and byzantine regulation, dependent on foreign energy, foreign labor, foreign direct investment. Domestic conditions have been and will continue declining.

Mon, 05/26/2014 - 10:05 | 4795255 DavidC
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And the stock markets are...climbing.

DAX up over 1%.

DavidC

Mon, 05/26/2014 - 10:33 | 4795313 BeetleBailey
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...AND THEY'LL KEEP CLIMBING....with looooooow volume...as all the sheeple douches try to "catch onto" the market....

Meanwhile, the oligarchs and institutional cunts are slowly unwinding....a little here...a little there....

Because.....even with the free fucking money and Ponzi....the downside is where the next big money is to be made.....and swiped....from the little guy....

AGAIN!

Mon, 05/26/2014 - 10:10 | 4795257 royal
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The Europeans are moving in the right direction.

Which is the cure for the disease of Liberalism.

 

 

Mon, 05/26/2014 - 10:06 | 4795258 Never One Roach
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Merkel says will prevent chlorine-washed chicken imports from U.S.

 

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/merkel-says-prevent-chlorine-washed-chicke...

 

The Germans seem to have a Bad Attitude.

Mon, 05/26/2014 - 10:16 | 4795272 aleph0
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@Tyler & ZH .... big thanks

 

That is exactly the Real News that ws NOT reported by MSM .

They talked about everything else except what this report shows.

 

Mon, 05/26/2014 - 10:28 | 4795277 Döwnner
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Spain and Greece are the worst offenders in the EU.

http://www.money-go-round.eu/Year.aspx?year=0


Both countries have seen massive amounts of money flowing into their country in the last 3 decades, effectively pulling their countries from third world status.

Spain has better transportation infrastructure than France because of EU money.

 

What the EU cannot do, is make lazy Greeks and Spaniards a real, industrial, productive people.

These people in the South of Europe are lazy and in many cases, uneducated, low qualifications, and ignorant.

Go to Spain and see how many Spaniards speak English? In this globalized world these people cannot produce anything of value. Only cheap tourism.

 

I expect populists to rise in southern Europe and make matters worse. After all, Spain, Portugal, Greece are used to populists that promise everything.

The reasons why these countries are shitty is because of the cultural and social traits of their own people. Lazy, ignorant and arrogant.

The Greeks of today act as if they are the Greeks of ancient times, when in fact they are ottomanized Greeks, which havbe more in common with modern Turks than ancient Greeks.

 

The Spaniards are "proud" that their language is the second language in the World, while at the same time they despise the people than speak that language. The Spaniards, in their majority, despise South Americans, who are the majority of the people that speak Spanish. The Spaniards use words like panchitos or sudacos, which are very offensive to South Americans. The Spaniards act like the British who despise Americans  and the ways Americans speak English.

 

I don't consider French nor Italians to be on the same group as Spaniards and Greeks for one simple reason: France is the secong biggest net contributor to the EU's budget, and Italy is the fourth.

While Greece is the first leecher of EU funds, after that Spain and then Portugal.

Mon, 05/26/2014 - 10:46 | 4795342 Spastica Rex
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If only the undesirables of Europe could be rounded up and gassed.

But then, if only the bottom 80% of the whole world could be rounded up and gassed, things would be so much better for the 1.5 billion remaining.

Mon, 05/26/2014 - 11:12 | 4795382 Döwnner
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I don't agree.

18% of the World's population (the Westerners) consume about 60% of the oil on any given year. In the past it was more like 80%, but since China and India have risen, that percentage is down to 60%.

The same nations that have a history in colonialism and imperialiasn and wars and extermination of others.

 

I don't think the "third worlders" need to be exterminated because they are unclean and poor. The causes of their poverty lay in the way the First World treated them in the last 500 years.

I think the First Worlders need to be exterminated because they are greedy and materialistic.

 

Planet Earth would be soo much better without Americans, British, French, Spaniards, Dutch, Italians, Germans, Austrians, Canadians, Australians, New Zealanders, Singaporeans, Japonesse, Scandinavians (maybe I exaggerate a little bit with the Scandinavians).

To be honest, I think the Chinese, the Indians, the South Americans, the Africans, the Eastern Europeans, the Middle Easterners, the Indonesians, the Malaysians have not forgotten how the Westerners have treated them in the past 500 years. Imperialism and wars. Lots of wars.

The only sad thing for me from the West is that America could have been a different story. But it follows the same path as the Western Europeans countries have followed in the past: imperialism and war.

 

Today the world, the Third World, is rising, with China/Russia/India/Brazil leading the way. I think the next 100 years will not be a Pax Americana worldwide, but Tertio Mundo Vindictae (Third World Revenge).

The Third World is sick of centuries of exploitation by Western powers and revenge is coming. The World is heading to a conflict between the Western powers and the Thirld World.

 

The Third World has all the natural resources (only Canada and Australia have some resources), has the numbers in population, the will and hunger to succeed.

The Western Worlds only has paper money, NGOs promoting gay rights and "democracy", a huge oppressive military, and a huge mass of materialistic consumers.

I don't regard Westerners as humans nor beings. I see them as consumeristic automatons. I see them as machines that need to be destroyed.

 

If you are a First Worlder, enjoy the little time you have left. Soon, there will be no mercy shown to the Westerners.

Mon, 05/26/2014 - 11:20 | 4795423 Spastica Rex
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I don't think the "third worlders" need to be exterminated because they are unclean and poor.

To be clear, for my strategy to be fair, the bottom 80% in every country would need to be exterminated.

I don't want to be seen as an elitist.

Mon, 05/26/2014 - 12:13 | 4795578 FeralSerf
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Ve haf vays to make you die.

Big Pharma and Big Ag are hard at work to make the world "better".

Mon, 05/26/2014 - 14:42 | 4796070 TBT or not TBT
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That's a pretty roundabout way of doing it if you ask me.

Mon, 05/26/2014 - 11:21 | 4795424 Jugdish
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Interesting viewpoint. Some things you stated are true while others are not. Your prophecy is a fantasy though. Wouldn't it be interesting if the first world - Billings, Montana went to war with the third world - Detroit, Michigan. I'd choose Billings.

Mon, 05/26/2014 - 11:57 | 4795453 Döwnner
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I'm a Third Worlder. All my life, when I had to be in contact with First Worlders, I was treated with arrogance and contempt. My fellow countrymen Third Worlders were also treated badly like me.

At first we were naive, we bought into the propaganda portrayed by Hollywood about the West: democratic, free, rich, responsible, highly educated, caring, etc..

Only to discover that the First World is only about one thing: exploitation of the natural resources and people of the Third World.

 

You may laugh at my comment, but many in the Third World hate the West.

The West should be really careful what country it attacks next to "spread democracy". Because one spark, and the global war will start, and then the full hatred that we, the Third Worlders, have towards the Westerners will be unleashed. 

 

The Third World is currently simply playing a waiting game and with a lot of patience. Russia-China-India are slowly decoupling themselves from the USD/EUR bullshit and at the same time preparing their armies for conflict.

The First Worlders are simply running out of oil and gas. And that means their life will soon become a nightmare. Better learn Chinese/Russian/Spanish/Arabic/Indian now. It might, but no guarantee, save your life one day.

Mon, 05/26/2014 - 16:01 | 4796288 Jugdish
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I will never as long as I live speak any of those fucking languages. I think your right. I should move to a slum in Bombay. I'm sure nobody is exploited there.

Mon, 05/26/2014 - 16:44 | 4796385 shovelhead
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You may be running away with yourself.

They may treat you with contempt for the simple reason that you are an asshole.

 

Mon, 05/26/2014 - 17:27 | 4796458 Döwnner
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Fuck you and your Western bretheren.

I hope you are stupid enough to attack Russia and I get to kill myself some fucking Amerikunts.

Tue, 05/27/2014 - 10:58 | 4798344 Cathartes Aura
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thanks for introducing your fine newbie self to the threads, complete with a narrative for your "background" and  shouty opinionating - been here before?

why yes, I do believe you have. . .

 

Mon, 05/26/2014 - 11:26 | 4795445 FredFlintstone
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This guy is such a downer.

Mon, 05/26/2014 - 11:09 | 4795397 Jugdish
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Getz to zee showerz for ze-lousing!!!

Mon, 05/26/2014 - 11:12 | 4795405 falak pema
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You'll get elected to the new new world council for universal progress and harmony for that statement. 

Nobel peace prize and all. The civilized way of doing it of course would be to gas them with laughing gas...now that merits the Nobel ! 

I can just see the proposal to get this on the World agenda : We arrange a Hajj and concomitant Pilgrimage to Jerusalem in presence of Pope himself, all the while we have the Olympics and World Cup in different venues; all linked to the same NSA laughing gas cable links.

Can't miss;  to have the world sheeple of the world in symbiosis, laugh its wits out to belly aching death all on CNN and Fox News like a cathartic collecitve exercise.

Lets all go laughing our way through those pearly gates. I'm sure some evangelical "born again" preachers would love to help CNN and Fox make this a world event, never to be matched in its charismatically cataclysmic fall out.

Imagine GWB with his artist's easel and brush. 

"You'll never walk alone" will resound on all seven continents.

Peace pipes and hash will be sold on every venue.

Hookah Olympics bitchezz!

Mon, 05/26/2014 - 11:14 | 4795411 Spastica Rex
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Thanks for the laugh.

Better than crying.

Mon, 05/26/2014 - 12:16 | 4795589 FeralSerf
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Hollywood will supply the virtual laughing gas to send them to their respective happy hunting grounds.

Mon, 05/26/2014 - 16:15 | 4796319 Escapedgoat
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Greeks and Spaniards are stupid I know, for a very simple thing. CENTRAL BANK. They do not know its workings.

The Austro-Hungarian Empire leached the Spaniards out of their Gold AND Silver, when they were doing all the Conquering of South America.

Silver and Gold mines and their OWNERSHIP  is the EVIDENCE and the wotrkings of it.

Greece, well they never work when they know that SOMEBODY LEACHES their efforts, be it Turks or Agglosaxons with the Bavarian Royalty that was foisted upon them. They may know it or not it does not matter. TEH Y FEEL IT.

As for your nationality, I guess you are a Hun, also you think, that productivity for your bosses (Viking Aristocracy, ENFORCERS,  with the Northern Italian Banking Friends) is paramount to LIFE. But it is NOT.

THE GREEKS AND TO SOME EXTEND THE SOUTHERN ITALIANS ARE THE SAME PEOPLE. The dangerous bit though is, the GREEK LANGUAGE.

And the Vatican did a splendid job in eradicating the tool of philosophy and the other Ancient Greek Subjects. VERY DANGEROUS  indeed.

 

 

Mon, 05/26/2014 - 10:23 | 4795286 Inthemix96
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As a Brit, and as jaded as I am, do anyone of you lot think this vote changes anything?

It changes nothing.  The supra-national commission, not voted for, and un-elected decide 'Exactly' what happens from here on in, your views I can fucking guarantee, mean sweet fuck all plebs, you will be 'Told' what goes on even in an area of 30% dissent.

These despicable fucking cunts are repeating history, again.

They are taking us towards violence my friends.

Plan, and act accordingly, for you and yours.

You cant do deals with a commited bunch of marxist communist bastards, its their way, or no way.

Now think about that bitchez, you think this lot of cunts will listen to popular opinion then, eh?

Wanna buy a bridge?

Mon, 05/26/2014 - 10:30 | 4795307 BeetleBailey
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Amen Mix....well stated

I might add;

"EU leaders meet for dinner..."....and let's hope they fucking CHOKE ON IT AND DIE....EN MASS....TOGETHER....ALL AT ONCE.

Mon, 05/26/2014 - 12:42 | 4795649 Captain Chlamydia
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I second that. I will be happy to serve the Ricin Wine and help them with the Cyanide Icecream. 

Mon, 05/26/2014 - 10:47 | 4795346 Seize Mars
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Inthemix

Wish we had you on this side of the pond. Keep rockin' my friend.

Mon, 05/26/2014 - 11:31 | 4795461 Inthemix96
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Seize Mars, I would stand by the side of any of you bitchez here mark my words, you are good people.

These maniacs know exactly what is planned for us lot and as much I dont like writing it, this can only end in violence, it always does my friend, we never learn do we?

Lets hope the interwebs have game changed it.

My very best to you and yours fella, coast to coast, land to land, sea to sea, we are no different, just the cunts who would set us upon each other need fucking culled, right, fucking, now.

96

Mon, 05/26/2014 - 10:26 | 4795294 gratefultraveller
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Surprise, surprise!!!

It looks like the EU governments might have to propose a candidate "super partes" in case neither the EPP nor the Socialists can muster enough votes to collect a majority to have their leaders, Juncker or Schulz, elected to EU Commission president.

As politicians only act on behalf of their moneymasters anyhow, guess who "Der Spiegel" is naming as potential candidates for that job at the head of the *unelected* Kommissars that lead the EU?

Mario Monti or Christine Lagarde...

An ex-goldmanite or the head of the IMF at the lead of the most powerful political institution in the EU, working hand in hand with Mario Draghi (ex-goldmanite as well) at the helm of the ECB - all for the good of the european citizens, I am sure...

Mon, 05/26/2014 - 10:27 | 4795298 Döwnner
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You are wrong. Juncker will be the candidate that will win the Commission.

 

Mon, 05/26/2014 - 10:37 | 4795323 gratefultraveller
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Mrs. Merkel seems not to like the idea of Junckers being in that position, and apparently her opinion counts a lot. We will see.

What I missed in the international news is a mention of the interview former german chancellor Helmut Schmidt gave the popular german tabloid "Bild" (rather than the far more intellectual and much less read "Die Zeit" that he cooperates with), where he calls the behaviour of the european bureaucrats in the Ukraine situation "megalomaniac", and where he suggests, when asked what the first action of the European Parliament after the elections should be, that that be a coup against the EU Commission and the thousands of unelected bureaucrats, as the parliament needs far more power relative to the EU bureaucracy in Brussels, which could only be achieved by a "revolt" of the parliament.

Mon, 05/26/2014 - 11:49 | 4795503 Ghordius
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British PM Cameron is opposed to Junckers, btw

Mon, 05/26/2014 - 15:07 | 4796069 trader1
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if you watched the german news last night, Schulz will most likely become the next President.  he made an appearance last night and handled the planted questions quite well. 

 

McAllister, who represented the CDU, got pissed off by the curveball questions and had nothing to offer except blah blah.  

 

the anti-euro parties are isolated.  they can't form a united, majority coalition, therefore worthless in a parliament.

 

GroKo with some serious concessions from the conservatives, making Juncker's role as President meaningless.

 

other option is Schulz pulling together an alternative majority with Red-Red-Green-Yellow and independents.  less likely, but what's he got to lose?

 

http://euobserver.com/eu-elections/124358

 

Mon, 05/26/2014 - 15:02 | 4796088 trader1
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monti has no chance, but lagarde maybe...a big maybe.  

but, the EU would lose all credibility if such a path is chosen.  especially for the ~ 170 million people who decided to vote the past weekend.  

considering the political capital invested into the project, there is no turning back now.  

Mon, 05/26/2014 - 10:36 | 4795306 tony wilson
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Europe Voted: Anti-EU And Protest Parties Take Nearly A Third Of All Europarliament Seats

 

these people are scum like farage they will be laughed at.

they will be ignored

these farage people want kaos

not order

nigel farage and all these peeple are the new hitler

no doubt iranian and russian funded.

we must protect the jews and the 6 million poor innocent souls in belgium.

farage must be stopped for the sake of the process children

we cannot afford too have anne franks hiding in lofts all over europe.

the logistics of making bbc tavistock documenteries about hiding jewish children in roof spaces all over euro does not bear thinking about.

laurence rees of the bbc nazi ww2 history reprogramme shows cannot possibly cope with so many made up spielberg simon weseal centre fairy tales.

these forage folks must be stopped so the looting goldman sack can continue to expand

scottish rites for the few eye say and what of the suffer the little children?

processing just part of the process what what

 

Mon, 05/26/2014 - 10:39 | 4795327 no more banksters
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What the European neoliberal economic empire fears

http://failedevolution.blogspot.gr/2014/05/what-european-neoliberal-econ...

Mon, 05/26/2014 - 10:51 | 4795359 Racer
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And not enough to make a difference as unfortunately the crooks still have the majority

Mon, 05/26/2014 - 10:51 | 4795360 Youri Carma
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Update: Voters have not been entirely kind to The Pirate Party in elections for the European Parliament.

Sweden’s two Pirate Party European Members of Parliament have not been re-elected, with the local authorities tally suggesting a collapse in the Party’s vote to 2.2%, down from 2009?s 7.1%.

In Finland, where Pirate Bay founder Peter Sunde sought a seat, counting the Party secured just 0.7% of the vote.

But Germany’s Piraten Partei has claimed victory, with candidate Julia Reda set to take win a seat after scoring 1.4% of the vote.

She quickly set out her stall, on Twitter of course, as an opponent of the election’s big winners: parties of the right opposed to the very idea of the European Union.

The UK’s three Pirate candidates got nowhere near Reda’s vote: they appear to have collectively won fewer than 10,000 votes, or just 0.05% of those cast.

The Czech Republic’s ?eská pirátská strana polled a respectable 4.78% of the vote, but that wasn’t enough to secure a seat.

Pirate Party candidates in Greece, Slovenia, Spain and Hungary appear not to have secured sufficient votes to make it out of the “other parties” column in their nations’ vote tallies.

FROM: Pirate Party runs aground in European Parliamentary elections – Voters force Swedish Pirate MEPs to walk plank as German Pirates wins seat, 26 May 2014, by Simon Sharwood (The Register) http://www.theregister.co.uk/2014/05/26/european_voters_make_pirate_part...

DUTCH ‘PIRATEN PARTIJ’

Conclusion is that the Dutch Pirate Party has no seat at her first participation in the European elections. :(

It was also a difficult task, from 0 to 3.8%, while the established parties could enter.

Our members, volunteers and candidates, however, have done their best, and that paid off. 1.1% of the vote, the best result of the nationwide party so far and would yield at least one seat in parliamentary elections.

If this continues, it seems that the pirates in the next elections go boarding the Dutch parliament. :)

Mon, 05/26/2014 - 11:25 | 4795439 Falconsixone
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Weren't pirates the private contractors (cia/blackwater) of the day?

Mon, 05/26/2014 - 11:11 | 4795402 Falconsixone
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Independent countries all vote on the same day. That's very social.

Mon, 05/26/2014 - 12:04 | 4795545 joego1
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In France this is going to cause more friction toward Muslims and more terrorism in their county. This overall trend is one I've been reading about on Zerohedge for years and is simply the slow motion unraveling of the EU. It could take a few more years to play out but I see potential black swans in the world everywhere these days so it could very well be in the near future.

Mon, 05/26/2014 - 15:54 | 4796273 rwe2late
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 On the other hand, LaPen has dubbed NATO as an organization of "baby-killers"

that France should not belong.

Getting France out of the business of attacking and occupying Muslim countries may possibly be the best way to reduce animosities long-term.

 

Mon, 05/26/2014 - 16:57 | 4796403 shovelhead
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Seems like they were pretty anxious to play Whack a Muz in Libya.

Tue, 05/27/2014 - 10:20 | 4798165 rwe2late
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Please do at least a little bit of research before making another nonsensical reply to my comment.

Le Pen is a chief leader of the EU-sceptics.

Le Pen characterized France's role in the Libya attack as a "vote-catching" ploy of Sarkozy, and that the "UN mandate was overstepped".

This is all consistent with her anti-NATO, anti-IMF beliefs, anti-EU beliefs.

"About the situation in Libya, she claimed that the confrontations pertained to a civil war in which France's interest was not to interfere. She regretted the haste of the French diplomacy which had "prematurely recognized the National Transitional Council which spoke in the name of the Libyan rebels". She claimed that the transfer of the US command towards NATO increased the submissiveness of the French Armed Forces. Denouncing "the US supremacy" in the military intervention, she "refused the idea that France slavishly followed the USA in this new stalemate". One month after the launching of hostilities, she claimed that "France mired into the 'vote-catching war' of Sarkozy". She noticed that "the United Nations' mandate had largely been overstepped", that "the war dragged on" and that "the deaths of civilians increased". Denouncing the planned dispatch of British, French and Italian military advisers, she lamented the decision of French authorities to compromise further France in "a new Afghanistan""

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marine_Le_Pen

Mon, 05/26/2014 - 17:44 | 4796475 homonohumanus
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Friction TOWARD the Muslims???

YOu mean toward the "white", the  "Caisfran"... the governement gave up on stats so all that shit is not called what it should aka most of time aggression are based on latent racism... 

 

I'm still amazed by the French calm overall, in some US states that would have lead to beefy number of blood bath.

Mon, 05/26/2014 - 12:37 | 4795633 Captain Chlamydia
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As a citizen of The Netherlands, I'm as EU as one can get. Way back in the nineties, they asked the Dutch if we wanted to join the EU. About 60% of the pop. said NO. Of course, this did not help, so we joined the EU. When the crisis of 2007/2008 came about and in the following years it turned out that our banks swindled our money, our politicians made the people bleed to keep the banks running. Hell, the Dutch Rabobank was footdown in the Libor scandal but the main guy responsible for that got sacked AND given a $1 million BONUS. They should have hanged the banker, but no. 

Not our own Dutch politicians nor the supra-national politicians in Brussels did anything to change the evil ways of the European banks. No, they even have a bigger plan, culminating in the ESM. The ESM can (and will!) demand any EU member for money, which it MUST pay within 1 week....it started out with a meagre 700 million euros which it can RAISE if it sees fit....and it is IMMUNE against any jurisdiction, as is its staff of employees. This monster must be the wet dream of every central wanker sorry banker. See the Youtube vid for all the hair raising trivia of the ESM.  

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jSk5fWIB524#t=102

The people never wanted the Euro coin, they cannot vote for the 'president of the EUSSR'. This whole circus of EU bureaucrats is a very very very costly thingie. The richer countries are bleeding becouse of the high influx of people from poorer EU countries. And, THEY DO NOT EVEN HAVE TO WORK, they pay them very nicely just to sit on their ass and call this unemployment benefits. It turns out that they organise bus trips from Bulgaria to Amsterdam, not to have a Marihuana weekend and visit the Red Light District, but to apply for a job (which they don't get) and find an appartment (weird....how can 60 Bulgarians live in a 10 foot square appartment...?) after which they go home and get their 'salary' on their bank account. Of course, it was a reporter who uncovered this and our government was furious but: We can not do anything against such criminals as they follow the law.....our law. 

Very nice. I can complain some more and I would if it made me feel that it helped. Nothing helps. We need either a Batman to shoot all the banksters and EU politicians, or a big economical crisis. With so many incompetent retards in Brussels, we probably do not need a Batman. They will diligently steer this train into the biggest pile of shit, then they will rip the people's money to pay for it, after which every able man and woman will grab a pitchfork. 

Thank you so much Mr. Draghi, Mr. Dijsselbloem, Mr. Rutte, Mr. Barrosso and Van Rompuy - for fucking up my country, my continent and my money. Oh, and for messing with politics outside the EU; first try to run Europe please, before you meddle with other countries would be my advice. This whole charade stincks for miles of the 4thReich. One nation, one people, one money, one leader. Let the Hunger Games begin!!

 

 

Mon, 05/26/2014 - 18:53 | 4796668 free_lunch
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Clamydia, don't get depressed. There is also some good news, the Ukrainians are coming!!
Apparently, we citizens have decided on this democratically even without knowing about it..

http://voiceofrussia.com/news/2014_05_26/EU-ready-to-sign-free-trade-zon...

Mon, 05/26/2014 - 12:58 | 4795700 fxrxexexdxoxmx
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Islam is faith which demands converts. One way or a another they will pursue that agenda. And if you disagree you are the problem. This is history and not racism.

Mon, 05/26/2014 - 14:52 | 4796101 Döwnner
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Christianity also needs new converts.

All religions need converts. Free-marketism, communism, statism, atheism, gayism, feminism, yoggaa, all faith-based bullshit needs new converts.

Because Ponzi schemes will die out if there are no new dupes.

Tue, 05/27/2014 - 11:08 | 4798386 Cathartes Aura
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all human belief systems exist to co-opt the people into believing their culture-all story.

including nationstate flag-wavers, hierarchy-"worlds" like "first & third" and all sub-groupings.

living is a "faith-based" fantasy that occasional minds free themselves from, and find they merely occupy space, in times.

no belief required.

 

Mon, 05/26/2014 - 16:51 | 4796397 tony wilson
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Islam is faith which demands converts.

what wot

if you are jewish then your words do not count.

if you are not you are just a dumb cunt

or a paid portacabin internet hack sack of zion

Tue, 05/27/2014 - 13:04 | 4798828 FeralSerf
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How is that different from evangelical Christians?

I get Mormons and Jehovah Witnesses coming to my door trying to convert me. Some are very "persuasive". I've never seen a Muslim doing that. Why is that?

Mon, 05/26/2014 - 16:59 | 4796409 TBT or not TBT
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The borders between Islam and other have been bloody for the full 13 odd centuries the pedophile warlord psychopath's sect have been around. Terror, intimidation, misogyny, the elevation of ignorance, sect methods. It's the pure suck. Evil.

Mon, 05/26/2014 - 13:18 | 4795739 novictim
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We need more than a little MALCONTENT here in the USA.

I was having a drink last night and started up a conversation with some guy at a bar after he asked me what Hockey team I was rooting for.

And the guy then says he's an owner of a designer company, an engineer and that he moved his job to the internet some years back and has a crew of Indian and Asian free lance folks doing his work now...that he has been able to cut his taxes and no longer has to pay for US workers or payroll.  His customers are US companies.

Trying to keep the conversation light, I mentioned INCOME INEQUALITY and how we don't have a democracy anymore and that we even don't have a meritocracy because inherritable  wealth has become the highest source for income....you know, real mundane talk, 'cause it's a bar and I want to keep it "light".

I mentioned the declining standard of living and the race to the bottom ongoing now for 4 decades.  I mentioned the Princeton paper that proves we are a Oligarchy now and the Picketty paper indicating what we already know...that the rich  are getting richer and the poor are getting poorer.  

His response?  A shake of the head and then the "Americans are exceptional, we can do anything" blather as he rather quickly paid for his beer and meal and left the building.  

As he passed for the exit I noted to him that he had left his "conscience" behind on his chair and "wouldn't he like to get it back"?  

The little greedy scum bag and the noxious  fumes of his own self loathing and the stated betrayal of his neighbors still permeate my clothing...they were made in China too.

I kid you not.

 

Mon, 05/26/2014 - 17:05 | 4796420 shovelhead
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I'll bet you were so self righteously angry that you stole the tip he left for the bartender.

Tue, 05/27/2014 - 02:41 | 4797584 novictim
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Yes, let us not be "Self Righteous"...let us just be silent as our country wanders blindly into total oblivion.

Bullshit, Shovelhead.

Mon, 05/26/2014 - 17:48 | 4796487 Bazza McKenzie
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The importance of the vote is not in immediately changing the EU parliament but that in 2 large countries, the UK and France, the vote has been won by anti-EU parties whose support continues to rise.  It is the dynamic in those countries that matters.  Take the UK AND France out of the EU and the EU is no more.

France, in particular, is key having been the driver behind the foundation of the EU.  In France's intention, the EU was always to be a supra-national entity lead by France.  Now France is just one of the poodles yapping around Germany, but doesn't even get the handouts from Germany that others do.  This does not sit well with France's self-image.

The "government" in Brussels hasn't changed but there will now be more people in Brussels deriding the incompetence of that "government", with their comments being replayed back home to continue weakening support for the EU.

The current elections are just one more step in the destruction of the EU.

 

Mon, 05/26/2014 - 18:49 | 4796652 free_lunch
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Yep I see the change already:

Just putting the EU door wide open for the n-th time, so the poor can come in and ruin our wages and loath oursocial system. Because that's democratic, that's what the people want.. http://voiceofrussia.com/news/2014_05_26/EU-ready-to-sign-free-trade-zon...

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