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Kyle Bass On China's "Contraction" And "The Fed's Worst Nightmare"
Via Robert Huebscher, originally posted at Advisor Perspectives,
For the last several years, nobody has been more outspokenly bearish on Japan than Kyle Bass. In a recent talk, Bass reiterated his doubts about Japan’s chances of averting a debt crisis. What’s more, he also said China’s economy will fall below expectations.
Bass changed one aspect of his outlook on Japan. Instead of predicting a collapse of the Japanese bond market, he focused on a severe weakening of the yen – without predicting when that might happen.
His predictions for China were equally distressing. He said that its banks will be saddled with non-performing loans and that its economy is actually contracting.
“I don’t think the markets are discounting what’s really happening in China,” he said.
Bass is the founder of Hayman Capital, a Dallas-based hedge fund. He was featured prominently in Michael Lewis’ recent book, The Big Short, for profiting from investments during the sub-prime crisis, which he accurately predicted.
He spoke on May 19 at in San Diego at the Strategic Investment Conference, which was sponsored by Altegris and John Mauldin.
I’ll look at Bass’ predictions for Asia’s two biggest economies – and how Bass believes investors can profit from their plights.
China
China’s economy isn’t just slowing down, according to Bass: It’ contracting. While China’s published rates for annual growth are still positive, Bass said the nation’s economic growth was negative from the fourth quarter of 2013 to the first quarter of 2014.
That is a result of excessive government spending on unproductive sectors of the economy. Bass said the People’s Bank of China (PBoC) has been more aggressive in its quantitative easing (QE) that the Federal Reserve has, but much of that money has gone into unproductive credit expansion.
China’s banking assets have grown to over 100% of its GDP in the last three years, according to Bass. If the U.S. had engaged in similar policies – which he said would translate to $17 trillion in lending over that time period – it, too, would have achieved more than 7% GDP growth.
China’s banking assets now total approximately $25 trillion, or almost three times the size of its $9 trillion economy. Its low default rate on bank loans – about 1% – is about to rise, according to Bass. Much of that lending is construction-related. Bass said that 55% of China’s GDP growth has been in the construction sector. The marginal return on those loans must be very small, he argued.
“A rolling loan gathers no loss,” Bass said, “and that’s what’s been going on in China for the last few years.” He said it is impossible to believe China could “manipulate” the inputs of its financial system without losing control of the outcomes.
Deflation is also threatening China. Bass said that its GDP deflator is now below zero. He expects the PBoC to engineer a devaluation of the renminbi as a way to stimulate exports and avert further deflation.
Bass said that if non-performing loans go from 1% to historical norms “somewhere in the teens” with loss severities of 100% for the worst loans, then China would delete its $4 trillion of foreign exchange reserves. Bass implied that China would need those reserves to stabilize its banking system, though he did not say so.
China’s leaders are fully aware of the dangers its economy faces, Bass said, and they hope to slow growth in a measured fashion, including through the restructuring of its banking system. “The jury’s out whether or not they can do it,” he said. “We actually believe they might be able to do that and that GDP [growth] is just going to slow down a lot more than people expect.”
“I’m not saying it is a calamity, a disaster or it’s going to end badly for the world,” Bass said. “All I’m saying is China is slowing down a lot faster than people think, and you need to think about how to position your portfolio for this.”
Bass advised against shorting Chinese equity as a way to capitalize on his forecast. Instead, he said, investors should look at China’s trading partners – Australia, New Zealand and Brazil. Those countries will be forced to loosen their monetary policy, raising rates and creating carry-trade opportunities.
Japan
For several years, Bass has maintained that Japan faces an imminent crisis in its bond markets – an uncontrollable upward spike in interest rates. He has been wrong. In this talk, however, he focused more on what will happen to the yen.
Bass expects Japan’s reform program to fail. That program is based on “three arrows”: aggressive fiscal policy, which is causing Japan to run a deficit that is 10% of its GDP; aggressive monetary policy, which is the “Abenomic” pursuit of QE that has doubled the monetary base in pursuit of 2% inflation; and structural reform, which Bass said hasn’t happened and isn’t likely.
None of those arrows, either individually or in combination, will be sufficient to normalize the Japanese economy, according to Bass.
Japan recently instituted a consumption tax, which Bass expects to push inflation up to 3%. But that will cause real yields to be negative, since Japan’s 10-year bond now yields approximately 60 basis points. Bass said that would lead to selling of Japanese government bonds.
The Bank of Japan (BoJ) might step in to buy those bonds, he said, effectively monetizing the debt through QE. Japan’s QE is enormous relative to that of the U.S. Bass said Japan’s is 140% of tax receipts, 170% of its fiscal deficit and 14% of GDP, versus 13% of tax receipts, 62% of fiscal deficit and 2% of GDP in the U.S.
But that QE, he contends, will cause the yen to depreciate.
“It’s my supposition that at some point in time, once the currency depreciates enough and capital flows leave Japan’s current account that you can’t hold the bond,” he said. “When this happens I don’t know. But I can tell you this: The yen is going to do nothing but weaken from here.”
Bass said the BoJ is already the primary source of liquidity for Japan’s bond market. When it recently stepped away from the market, not a single bond traded for a day and a half, according to Bass.
One way out of this predicament would be to allow interest rates to rise. But Japan can’t afford that. It already spends 25% of its tax revenue on interest expenses. A hundred-basis-point increase would cause the country to spend all of its revenue on interest.
Japan has been able to pursue QE because it ran a current account surplus for the last 31 years. Bass said that string has ended, and Japan’s balance of trade is continuing to worsen. This creates a paradox for Japan, he said. Either it must buy foreign bonds in order to weaken its currency, or it must invest in capital goods (machinery and equipment) to foster the “animal spirits” that would stimulate growth.
Either way, Bass said the money would have to come from the banks, as they sell their government bonds. That will force the yen to weaken.
Implications for the U.S.
With the Fed tapering and both China and Japan’s currencies likely to weaken, the net impact on the U.S. will be deflationary, Bass said. That trend will be accelerated by the improvement in the balance of trade for the U.S., which had its current account deficit shrink due to increased hydrocarbon production.
The crucial moment will come when the U.S. reports a sub-6% unemployment rate, meeting the target it has set for normalizing its monetary policy by ending QE and raising rates. He predicted that will come in July.
That will be the Fed’s “worst nightmare,” he said.
Raising rates would stifle growth and recreate unemployment problems, which would be disastrous politically, according to Bass.
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A couple premises look dubious.
http://www.popsci.com/article/10-foot-sea-level-rise-now-unstoppable-due...
http://www.shadowstats.com/alternate_data/unemployment-charts
"Bass said...."
About a thousand fuckin' times over it loses some of it's impact.
Thank God I don't read Robert Huebscher, at Advisor Perspectives
no offense to Kyle Bass because he did an amazing job predicting the 2009 crash
but he has been wrong wrong wrong for the last 5 years
and his hedge fund has made so many horrible stock mistakes. on stocks like MTG, he bought high and sold low.
and even if he ends up being right on Japan, he has lready lost so much being short than he will have to be very very right on Japan for a long time just to break even
and truly, I respect him a lot. and he SHOULD be right on Japan.
but he fundamentally misunderstands the Japanese people and their complacency and lethargy toward deflation and inflation, and also misunderstands Chinese shadow banking in that just like banks inflate their profits and take loans OBS, they also inflate the loans others owe them, so the in the same way Kyle Bass agrees that assets are inflated and income is inflated, liabilities are also inflated; further, a lot of asset 'cash' is also kept OBS. lastly, he massively underestimates the PBOC ability to prop up and absorb losses. If the Chinese economy crashes, it's veritable suicide for the Poliburo, and do you really think, with their massive assets at their disposable they are just going to allow the economy to crash and social unrest to usurp them? it'll be a long long time before the PBOC has exhausted all its capabilities to prop of the economy.
also, on China, one interesting thing i've noticed is that we often like to look at electricity in China, but I haven't seen reference on it in a while
http://www.stats.gov.cn/tjsj/zxfb/201405/t20140513_552377.html
the 8th table down is electricity growth up until april and as seen in the bottom bars the average daily outputs have begun to stabilize and bottom out. most of you cannot read chinese so either you can trust me or you can try google an english article that's referenced it.
that "bottom out" was reinforced yesterday by Credit Suisse when they issued a note also saying they think China may be bottoming out based on electricity, railway, etc data showing a 'bottom' (though they also said this last year too and it did go down a bit more). so, you can google that if you want confirmation.
"re-creating unemployment problem" ??
When did the (un)employment problem go away?
All you need to know is that they LIE. The U6 (the real unemployment #) is still above 12% in 2008 it was at 8%.
They point to the depression as to proof that deflation is bad because prices went down during the depression. Hello? I would like to know where an economist can get a refund on his university degree? Supply and demand. Depression lowers demand for products cost of products goes down. Someone in GRADE 4 can understand that. The side walk is wet. That's what made it rain.
Since when is the Fed not allowed to change the goal posts?
"So Kyle, how does that work ? China and Japan are going to burn to the ground before they sell some US debt ? Yeah right"
After listening to Stansberry's podcast, I think I know why Kyle doesn't say much about the US. If you write or say that an American company like GM is headed for bankruptcy or that the US is quickly losing its status as a world leader, crazy people will send you death threats and claim you hate America. I would bet Japan and many other countries are the same. If you're in Japan and you say Japan is heading toward a brick wall, some crazy Japanese guy will threaten to kill you.
Look how much hate Peter Schiff gets for talking about America. He probably gets death threats on a daily basis just because he points out reality. Shooting the messenger is almost a national sport.
Spot the contradiction?
Yep. And that's not the only one.
I'm dismissing Kyle Bass's analysis and predictions.
Bass states, “I don't think the markets are discounting what’s really happening in China,” ..........
Everyone should realize by now, the market is the FED trading with it's self between Maidenlane I, II and III accounts or more by now if they've made them. Just think what we all could do with our bills, vacations, purchasing power if we could just digitally put additional zeros in our accounts every day. They don't care if they lose in one account because they are making it in the other. What happened to the saying, "Sell in May".
I've been saying and documenting this since Obummer took office, that someone was purchasing calls and puts with large quantities so far out of the money it was insane. NO TRADER would take the opposite end of that trade, only another account traded by the FED.
A perfect description. And that's what the market is, the FED trading with itself.