Ron Paul Fears The VA Scandal Is Just The Tip Of The Military Abuse Iceberg

Tyler Durden's picture

Submitted by Ron Paul via The Ron Paul Institute,

President Obama held a press conference last week to express his outrage over reports that the Veterans Administration was routinely delaying treatment to veterans, with some veterans even dying while on alleged secret waiting lists. The president said that, “if these allegations prove to be true, it is dishonorable, it is disgraceful, and I will not tolerate it, period.” He vowed that, together with Congress, he would “make sure we're doing right by our veterans across the board.”

The president is right to be upset over the mistreatment of US military veterans, especially those who return home with so many physical and mental injuries.  Veterans should not be abused when they seek the treatment promised them when they enlisted. But his outrage over military abuse is selective. He ignores the most egregious abuse of the US armed forces: sending them off to fight, become maimed, and die in endless conflicts overseas that have no connection to US national security.

It is ironic that the same week the president condemned the alleged mistreatment of veterans by the VA, he announced that he was sending 80 armed troops to Chad to help look for a group of girls kidnapped by the Nigerian Islamist organization Boko Haram. Is there any mistreatment worse than sending the US military into a violent and unstable part of the world to conduct a search operation that is in no way connected to the defense of the United States?

As Judge Andrew Napolitano said last week, “Feeling sorry for somebody is not a sufficient basis for sending American men and women into harm’s way.”

We are naturally upset over reports that Nigerian girls have been kidnapped by this armed Islamist organization. Unfortunately, cruel and unjust acts are committed worldwide on a regular basis. What the media is not reporting about this terrible situation, however, is that it was US interventionism itself that strengthened Boko Haram, and inadvertently may have even helped the kidnappers commit their crime.

Back in early 2012, just months after the US-led attack on Libya overthrew Gaddafi and plunged the country into chaos, the UN issued a report warning about the proliferation of weapons from that bombed out country. UN investigators found -- eight months before the attack that killed the US ambassador in Benghazi -- that, "Some of the weapons ... could be sold to terrorist groups like al Qaeda in the Islamic Maghreb, Boko Haram or other criminal organizations."

The US, NATO, and the UN are guilty of creating the unrest currently engulfing much of northern Africa, as they all pushed lies to promote an attack on Libya that destabilized the region. Now the president is launching an intervention in Chad and Nigeria to solve the problems created by his own intervention in Libya. This pattern is the same in places like Ukraine, where the US-backed coup in February has led to chaos and unrest that leads to even more intervention, including NATO’s saber-rattling on the Russian border. Has anyone in the Administration or Congress ever considered that interventionism itself might be the real problem?

As Americans celebrate the Memorial Day holiday, we should remember that though the VA’s alleged abuse and neglect of US veterans is scandalous, the worse abuse comes from a president and a compliant Congress that send the US military to cause harm and be harmed overseas in undeclared, unnecessary, and illegal interventions. The best way to honor the US military is to honor the Constitution, and to keep in mind the wise advice of our Founding Fathers to avoid all foreign interventionism.

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localsavage's picture

Once again....they have no problem sending your sons and now daughters to their slaughter as long as they are making money or building power

I am Jobe's picture

The stupidty lies with the sheeples enlisting for the stupidty. 

Long on PTSD and Drugs. 

 

y3maxx's picture

...This Article was out December, 2013.
"25 Signs That Military Veterans Are Being Treated Like Absolute Trash Under The Obama Administration"... http://endoftheamericandream.com/archives/25-signs-that-military-veteran...

kchrisc's picture

Here it is again: "Anyone that thinks that government can do good, should visit a prison or VA hospital."

If institutions that are 100% under government control cannot provide even rudimentary "services" or protections, then one must understand that it is impossible on the scale of an economy.

You could read all they books on how collectivism always fails and why, or go see it for yourself.

 

"There's a list for my guillotine, however it isn't a 'waiting list'."

Clinteastwood's picture

I would be a rich man if I had a nickel for every time Obighead uses the words "make sure" when he speaks.  Tell me one thing on this earth about which you can "make sure."  Every time this nitwit says "male sure" you know a lie will come out of his mouth next.

kchrisc's picture

"How do you know a pol is lying?! His lips are moving."

How do you know a CIA manchurian candidate pol is lying?! He's breathing.

localsavage's picture

When you resist they will make you enlist....just saying

Keyser's picture

Plenty of illegals willing to enlist for a green card... 

 

James_Cole's picture

The stupidty lies with the sheeples enlisting for the stupidty. 

Right, wasn't the administration who orchestrated it, the public who overwhelmingly supported it (voted for it twice) or the media + various corporations who made billions off it.

The blame falls squarely at the 'stupid' troops, the only people I might add who actually had skin in the game. 

Canadian Dirtlump's picture

The "support the troops" meme from the self anointed elite is a canard more correctly defined as a means to score cheap political points, glorify war or suck otherwise well meaning flyover state kids and young men from the ghetto to go fight unjust wars for profit.

 

Anyone with eyes to see know they treat vets like shit. There was the stories of bodies and body parts being thrown in dumps. We see bodies not buried for months, and this Va business. Then there's the suicide epidemic. My personal opinion has it that this is directly related to the deeds these guys did or saw.

 

Recall this vet's suicide note. If this doesn't give you pause and perhaps a lump in your throat, you're not human.

http://gawker.com/i-am-sorry-that-it-has-come-to-this-a-soldiers-last-53...

 

"During my first deployment, I was made to participate in things, the enormity of which is hard to describe. War crimes, crimes against humanity. Though I did not participate willingly, and made what I thought was my best effort to stop these events, there are some things that a person simply can not come back from"

 

You know it's funny. I have talked blithely about that exact thing, but the enormity of it didn't hit me until I read it from someone who lived it. Much like everything else, what was once noble has been turned into an abomination by the elite for their own gain. To spread debt and death for the enrichment of private citizens while keeping an iron fist on those who don't toe the line.

 

The idea that because we were born in Canada or the US instead of iraq or afghanistan means that we don't have the pleasure of watching our father or mother shot in cold blood, or losing our children to a bomb and also gives us the right to preach on our high horse about spreading freedom is truly vile. Almost 1 vet every hour sadly disagrees with the notion that there is nobility in this, and they register their vote by killing themselves.

 

Old but good Joe Rogan on war

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eRItoiI_dDU

 

It's terrible to say but to the elite a good veteran is a dead veteran because they cost less money and tell no tales, meanwhile said elite asshole can get a front row seat at arlington on memorial day with his 2 thousand dollar suit and an american flag pin while a chorus of children here cry because their dad is never coming home and a chorus of children abroad cry because they might die today because the west wants them to be free.

 

Just like all of us in some way Vets are a resource to the elite who serve a purpose and when that is done, so are they.

espirit's picture

From an enlisted and entrusted resource that is involved in the current hunger games:

Most of you armchair generals @ ZH aren't going to make it out alive.

Putting it mildly, eh?

Canadian Dirtlump's picture

most everyone isn't. doesn't change anything. I'll make it further than most and that is all I can do. I'm not going to survive in a mad max scenario, but I wouldn't want to. I'm working every day to be more self sufficient and prepared without losing the joy in life. I certainly won't make it out alive if the US chooses to punish my country and send people who think they are spreading freedom to kill me or some oily faced nerd in a nevada warehouse wants to earn a merit badge by remotely killing me and my family when we're at a picnic.

 

Assessing facts doesn't equate to being an armchair general. When  wars are fought for a decade during which time billions of dollars have evaporated and many of the people coming home are in shambles if alive at all and the countries are no better off and arguably worse you don't need to be a west point graduate to realize it. I don't need to be a 4 star chef to tell you the stew is rotten.

 

I go through peacekeeper's park in Calgary every day and walk by the names of the people who have died "peacekeeping" and all I can do is shed a tear in my heart because war has become a racket. That doesn't mean all soldiers are evil, but it most certainly means they are lied to as are the rest of us and their bosses bosses are the embodiment of evil on the earth. You can come and kill me or anybody else, and have a dick measuring contest about how handy you are with a weapon compared to the unwashed masses, I won't argue with you and congratulations but that doesn't change anything.

p00k1e's picture

Once you get over the first bite (of eating your neighbor), it’ll be fine.

One of We's picture

"...all I can do is shed a tear in my heart becasue war has become a racket."  When was war anything else? 

WAMO556's picture

Yup!

Even the innocent will hang with the guilty! We been suppressing/disrupting a lot of people for a long time! When those folks come here, there will be blood in their eyes. Guilty American/Innocent American - they look the same!

Get your PACE plan out and make sure it is current.

Freddie's picture

To Ron Paul's credit - he has said over and over to stay out of wars and stay out of other countries business.  The NeoCons who include NWO RINOs and Dems trashed him - saying he was anti ***** because he did not want to bow down to other countries. 

What a tragedy that the NWO billions, defense/military/entertainment complex pick America's pols.

AndyM's picture

And they sleep at night because, after all, it is an all volunteer military ...

jcpicks's picture

He only ordered it because Chewbacca told him to...

Chupacabra-322's picture

"As Judge Andrew Napolitano said last week, “Feeling sorry for somebody is not a sufficient basis for sending American men and women into harm’s way.”

Cannon Fodder.

Fuh Querada's picture

"cannon fodder"
-do people not know this when they enlist?
-isn't that what all the immigrants are for?

goldinpenguin's picture

Boko Haram..."Whiter Shade of Pale" right?

Fuh Querada's picture

She said, "There is no reason
And the truth is plain to see."
But I wandered through my playing cards
And they would not let her be
One of sixteen vestal virgins
Who were leaving for the coast
And although my eyes were open wide
They might have just as well been closed

BeetleBailey's picture

Gary Brooker just gave you the finger

kchrisc's picture

The easy part is passing or signing this treasonous crap. It gets interesting when they start trying to enforce it.

"...behind every blade of grass."

 

 

"My guillotine won't exactly hide behind a blade of grass, but the spirit is the same."

buzzardsluck's picture

If Ron Paul isn't controlled opposition, imagine how great of president he would make.

Bro of the Sorrowful Figure's picture

i dont think anything could drive me to drinking and doing coke and hookers all day faster than finding out that ron paul was controlled opposition. id lose all hope immediately.

john milton's picture

boko haram...homo barak..well said Ron..

Greenskeeper_Carl's picture

john kerry is the worst one, IMO : 1970's- it is wrong to send americas young people overseas to fight an enemy that doesnt pose a threat to the US. 2014 : now that its not him being sent off to fight and get shot at, that shit is A-OK. disgusting hypocracy

kchrisc's picture

Isn't John Kohn proof that pols and crats believe nothing but what they are paid to believe?!

 

"I caught my guillotine with a pin-up John Kohn."

SilverIsMoney's picture

To those liberal fucktards who think Obamacare will work look no further than how well our government has treated our Veterans to see your not too distant future.

TimmyB's picture

Our government treated veterans like shit long before Obama became president. As a disabled veteran who receives medical care for disabilities at the V.A., let me tell you that I get better healthcare than the great, great majority of Americans.

For instance, this scandal was discovered by the V.A. Inspector General, who's office learned that certain facilities were having veterans wait longer than two weeks to see a doctor, and then covering it up.

My question to you is: "Name the private medical insurer or healthcare chain that has an Inspector General ensuring that patients see doctors within two weeks of requesting one?" That's right---there isn't any. Insurers would simply refuse to provide treatment, and people would die. Private medicine always buries it's mistakes, in more ways than one.

What really pisses me off about this scandal is that the same politicians scoring political points off it are the same people who vote not to provide more money to the V.A. so it can hire more doctors.

I am Jobe's picture

In a week VA will be old story and back to the same crap. Welcome to Amerika, if you are not profiting from someones misery then fuck the person or persons. Ain't Amerika great. Amerikan Exceptionalism, back stabbing and profiting in the 21st century

yogibear's picture

The Wall Street banksters only support veterens that protect their assets and make them money, otherwise their useless to them. 

 

SAT 800's picture

That Ron Paul; he just keeps telling the truth; it's amazing he's gotten as old as he has.

JR's picture

Two events for Memorial Day are highly significant: one) the Ron Paul identification of what America and its military are really all about, and two) the continued importance of Zero Hedge to select this statement in its coverage of the holiday.

It is no wonder that Ron Paul’s campaign for the presidency garnered more support from active duty military than any other candidate. It is a severe indictment of today’s Republican Party that it would consider candidates for the 2016 presidential election to include such men as Rand Paul when Ron Paul is still alive.

Here is a man, Ron Paul, who could be president and a man whom America desperately needs. Why, then, would the Republican Party pick a kid so inexperienced, so egotistical and so ambitious that he is prepared to go anywhere, and say anything, just to wear the purple?

Rand Paul turned on the Tea Party to endorse Humana Insurance/Obamacare candidate and leading senator double-crosser, Mitch McConnell, and has publicly distanced himself from seriously overturning Roe vs. Wade, repealing ObamaCare, or stopping amnesty with a hard, strong stance.

His latest proposed bill is to punish Palestinians by cutting off financial aid to these poverty-stricken people if they do not recognize the right of Israel to exist as a Jewish state.  Never mind that the PLO has recognized Israel’s right to exist three times. Rand makes the distinction “Jewish state” so that Israel won’t have to take back Palestinians within its borders under a right of return.   In other words, he believes he needs the Neocons, the Chamber of Commerce, AIPAC and the Republican Establishment if he is to gain the Republican nomination for president.

The difference between Ron Paul and Rand Paul is the difference between representative government by the people and for the people and government by the oligarchs, for the oligarchs.

Yen Cross's picture

 

 Happy Memorial Day J/R.  As usual you make perfect sense. Rand Paul is a waffling RINO, that has ridden his father's "coat tails" for far too long. I wonder when the good state of Kentucky is going to wise up a get rid of that curly haired waffle boy!

JR's picture

Mitch McConnell’s campaign committee spent $11,379,032 of his current $21,686,624 war chest on his primary win in Kentucky, leaving him with cash on hand, to date, for the upcoming November election of $10,145,566, as reported on April 30, 2014, with  $0 in debts. He’s raised more than $12 million in 2014 alone.

Matt Bevin spent $3.3 million in his failed bid to oust the five-term Republican Senate leader.

According to OpenSecrets.org, top contributors to McConnell’s Campaign Committee are Citigroup Inc., JPMorgan Chase & Co., Votesane PAC, Goldman Sachs and Kindred Healthcare.  Of Individual Contributions (66% of total contributions) , $858,014 or 4% came from small individual contributions and 62% from large individual contributions, or $13,402,449.  PAC Contributions totaled $5,080,788 (23%); candidate self-financing, $0, and Other, $2,345,369 (11%).


“A review by The Hill of Federal Election Commission filings shows an increase in engagement from business-friendly and centrist GOP actors in 2014 compared to four years ago. 

“The Chamber of Commerce is this cycle’s second-biggest spender, and has already spent at least $1 million opposing conservative candidates, according to data compiled by the Center for Responsive Politics….

“The nearly $10 million spent by the Chamber this cycle on its preferred candidates in House and Senate races is more than three times what the Senate Conservatives Fund has spent on its picks this cycle, and their only engagement in a competitive Senate primary so far came up short.

“In Kentucky, groups backing Sen. Mitch McConnell’s (R) unsuccessful primary challenger, Matt Bevin, spent $664,000 in independent expenditures boosting him and another $800,000 attacking McConnell, led by SCF.

“Groups supporting McConnell spent at least $1.4 million, according to a review of Federal Election Commission filings by The Hill. McConnell spent another $9 million of his own war chest to keep his seat.”

It’s important to realize that today’s U.S. Chamber of Commerce is not a business organization. It represents the bankers and only the largest of the multinational corporations.

http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/207181-gop-establishment-spends-big#ixzz32rZ1cWi9

http://scaredmonkeys.com/2014/05/21/incumbent-mitch-mcconnell-easily-defeats-tea-party-challenger-matt-bevin-in-kentucky-gop-primary/

http://www.opensecrets.org/politicians/summary.php?cid=n00003389

STP's picture

Great wrapup, but in the link by scaredmonkeys, I couldn't help but notice how much McConnell and Harry Reid look alike!

garcam123's picture

Neither one of them is playing with a full deck.  It's too bad those who want to see in them what they want, but trust me, they are BOTH a couppla KOOKS!  Keep em away from the codes!

DollarMenu's picture

Oh, like the last several holders were paragons of sanity?

And you're worthy of trust by what mechanism?

Give me a Ron Paul kook any day, the kid needs to step away from the stove.

AndyM's picture

A horse, a horse! My kingdom for a horse! ... a Trojan Horse?

q99x2's picture

Ron Paul is too kind. From what I've heard the FEDs are labeling them as terrorists when they get back to the states and  then they are training the DHS and police on how to kill them when the SHTF.

I guess Washington feels bamkster mercenaries deserve what they get..

MedicalQuack's picture

The same week Obama said we need tourism to help our economy...well maybe because we're broke as citizens so send those folks over to spend money:)

Then we have this with poor algorithmic modeling to where an 89 year old veteran gets his benefits reduced to $6 a month..come on people can write better code than that to let this happen when the VA finds an error.  It's auto deposit over a length of time and what do you think the odds are of an 89 year old man catching it being a few dollars at a time that added up to $3000?  Can he live of $6 a month..heck no..but they don't care, write those models and algos go take that money back and put him on the street..

http://ducknetweb.blogspot.com/2014/05/89-years-old-us-vet-gets-bit-by-k...

From the White House down we are too much of a nation of "stat rats" and sure we need statistics but not to the point to where they make us stupid and don't look at situations like the one above.  White House is just one big template itself anymore. All the correspondence, looks like some corporate site anymore and updates are boring and we get same stuff we get out of the media, state, stats and more stats..operation magpie.

http://ducknetweb.blogspot.com/2014/05/va-crisis-should-be-huge-wake-up-...

Big problem is "The Grays" to where folks can't tell the difference between virtual and real world values.  Look at the interview of the VA, all they can talk about are their "stats" they improved, doesn't matter if a number of lives were lost doing it?  That's what I see, a huge brainwashing and we need some new culture all over the place. 

http://ducknetweb.blogspot.com/2014/03/virtual-worlds-real-world-we-have...

The White House exposing the CIA director over there, perfect example on how they live in virtual worlds there with the query just taking everything in with no common sense from humans in there.  The White House Blue Labs folks that do all of this need to be replaced. 

Reaper's picture

What meaning is there to die for Obama's glory? Or, McCain's?

NoWayJose's picture

We are coming off a poor primary season for Tea Party candidates, and a lot of it is due to the MSM, the RINOS and the Democrats who constantly bash any candidate that does not toe the single party line.  They did the same thing to Ron Paul.  A lot of the problem is also the candidates themselves, who say 90% of the things Americans really want to hear - but then say something outrageous in the last 10% that lets their opponents batter them.  And yes, this includes Ron Paul.  Of course, the Democrats say the same 10% of stupid things, but they are always forgiven or even turn it around to bash anyone bringing it up.  Because of all the bashing, I think the Tea Party is dead - labelled by the MSM as too extreme - even though two thirds of Americans agree with the main ideas.  So while the Tea Party is a rallying cry to draw some supporters, it has been blasted enough that anyone declaring themselves a Tea Party candidate also brings in the negativity fostered by the MSM.  It is a pipedream to think that any future elections will be decided on ideas (where Tea Party ideas win).  Instead, they will be decided on how big the Democrat attack dogs are, and whether a RINO can fool the Republican voters into thinking they are conservatives.

DollarMenu's picture

IMO, the trouble with "Tea Party" is that it is not a party at all, it is a subset of a totally corrupt and foul larger party, the R's.

Tea Party people are never clearly out on their own platform, there are no identified leaders at the grassroots level., their funding is suspect.

It never was supposed to be anything other than a momentary political ripple, but it had some resonance, and was never properly nurtured.

Instead, it was side-tracked, co-opted by opportunists and we are now left with the fetid smell of rotted ideals.

sylviasays's picture

IMO, the trouble with "liberals" is that it is not a party at all, it is a subset of a totally corrupt and foul larger party, the D's.

Liberal people are never clearly out on their own platform, there are no identified leaders at the grassroots level, their funding is suspect.

It never was supposed to be anything other than a momentary political ripple, but it had some resonance, and was never properly nurtured.

Instead, it was side-tracked, co-opted by opportunists and we are now left with the fetid smell of rotted ideals.

kchrisc's picture

The DC US sent me a letter saying I needed to pay them.

I respectfully declined, citing US Code Title 18 U.S. Code §2339C and §2339B, "Prohibitions against the financing of terrorism" and against "providing material support of terrorism."

Sorry, please reform your criminal selves and try again next year.

 

"I am sending my guillotine to remit payment."

http://www.sott.net/article/277591-Can-you-be-sent-to-Gitmo-for-paying-y...

http://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/granule/USCODE-2011-title18/USCODE-2011-title18...

http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/2339B