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Government Plan Would Transform Israel Into The World’s First Cashless Society
Submitted by Michael Snyder of The End of the American Dream blog,
Will Israel be the first cashless society on the entire planet? A committee chaired by Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu’s chief of staff has come up with a three phase plan to “all but do away with cash transactions in Israel”. Individuals and businesses would still be permitted to conduct cash transactions in small amounts (at least initially), but the eventual goal is to force Israeli citizens to conduct as much business as possible using electronic forms of payment. In fact, it has been reported that Israeli officials believe that “cash is bad” because it fuels the underground economy and allows people to avoid paying taxes. It is hoped that requiring most transactions to be conducted in cash will reduce crime and help balance the national budget. And once 98 or 99 percent of all transactions are cashless, it will not be difficult for the Israeli government (or any other government) to go the rest of the way and ban cash transactions altogether. But is a cashless society actually desirable? This is a question that people all over the world will have to start asking as governments increasingly restrict the use of cash.
Back in September, it was announced that the Israeli government had formed a committee to “examine ways to eliminate cash from the Israeli economy”…
The government on Tuesday authorized establishment of a committee that will examine ways to eliminate cash from the Israeli economy – the better to prevent citizens from cheating on their taxes. The committee will be chaired by Harel Locker, director of the Prime Minister’s Office.
This committee had the full backing of Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, and some of the goals of the committee included finding ways to increase tax revenue and prevent money laundering…
Officials in the Prime Minister’s Office declared that “around the world, it is recognized that cash is a key element of the illegal economy and money laundering. It allows a wide gap between reported and actual incomes, with the corresponding effect on tax revenues.” By eliminating cash, the PMO said, “it will be possible to expand the tax base, and prevent money laundering.” The committee will study the issue from all its perspectives and make recommendations, the PMO said.
The committee has had quite a few months to examine these issues, and now they have come back with their recommendations. Just this week we learned that a three phase plan is being proposed…
A special committee headed by Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu’s chief of staff, Harel Locker, has recommended a three-phase plan to all but do away with cash transactions in Israel.
The motivation for examining a cash-less economy is combatting money laundering and other tax-evasion tactics, thereby maximizing potential tax collection and greatly expanding the tax base. This is important considering the enormous strain put on Israel’s national budget by the army, healthcare system and other public services.
The committee estimated that the black market represents over 20 percent of Israel’s GDP, and cash is the facilitating factor. Cash enables tax evasion, money laundering and even financing terrorism.
So what do the specifics of the plan look like?
Well, there will be very strict limits on the use of cash for individuals and businesses, any violations will be considered criminal offenses, and all Israeli banks will be required to issue debit cards to all account holders…
What the committee would like to see happen, pending government approval, is greater restriction on the use of cash, limiting the use of checks as a means of payment and exchange for cash, and promotion of the use of electronic (and therefore verifiable) means of payment.
The following guidelines were set out by the committee for the short-term:
- Limit business transactions done in cash or by check to NIS 7,500 ($2,150) immediately, and reduce that further to NIS 5,000 ($1,433) one year from the date of legislation;
- Limit private transactions done in cash or by check to NIS 15,000 ($4,300);
- Any violation of these limits would be a criminal offense warranting a stiff fine.
In conjunction with these new restrictions, Israeli banks would be required to provide all account holders with debit cards to further promote electronic payments.
But of course this move toward a cashless society is not just happening in Israel.
In Sweden, it is estimated that just 3 percent of all transactions involve cash at this point. In fact, according to an article in the Washington Post, some Swedish banks do not handle cash at all anymore…
In most Swedish cities, public buses don’t accept cash; tickets are prepaid or purchased with a cell phone text message. A small but growing number of businesses only take cards, and some bank offices — which make money on electronic transactions — have stopped handling cash altogether.
“There are towns where it isn’t at all possible anymore to enter a bank and use cash,” complains Curt Persson, chairman of Sweden’s National Pensioners’ Organization.
And the U.S. is starting to move in that direction as well.
According to a study conducted by MasterCard, approximately 80 percent of all consumer transactions in the United States are now cashless.
But isn’t there a downside to all of this?
Just about everything that we do in life involves money. So yes, a government can track electronic payments to make sure taxes are being paid and money laundering is not happening, but it would also enable a government to do so much more.
If a government can track all of your transactions, it will essentially be able to monitor everywhere you go and pretty much keep track of virtually everything that you do.
If you doubt this, just try to live without any money some time.
You won’t get very far without putting some gas in your vehicle.
And without being able to buy food, you will get hungry pretty quickly.
Are you starting to understand?
This is why governments love the idea of moving toward a cashless society. It would give them an immensely powerful surveillance tool.
So let us hope that this does not happen in Israel or anywhere else in the world either.
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Stay the fuck out of this Rand.
I have as much right to post bullshit as you. Granted my bullshit stinks less than yours, but I'm working on it. And go fuck yourself for telling me I can't invade your little bitch slap fest.
I think Gaius hit a nerve, would be interesting to know why there was such a bellicose reaction with threats!
The accusation was bellicose, newb. And there was no threat.
Tell me, what do you consider "a threat" child?
Back on topic, guys.
Mark of the Cashless Beast will be a RFID.
"I'll expect a fucking apology, now..."
Bold type with trailing dots looks pretty much as a full on threat especially when the word 'Fucking' is used before hand. There is loving and there is fucking. In war one does not love another man or country but one rather fucks them as best as one can by killing and plundering. Your choice of words reveal your true intent. Gaius was being quite civil and did not resort to anger or emotion or screaming or threats. You sir on the other hand are very beligerent and downright mean and nasty.
They're just playing.
I don't know about you, but I prefer my "loving" to be accompanied by some "fucking".
Dear, this rxn was incredibly mild by the old classical standards of ZH. Please stay on the sidelines until ready to engage for your own safety. There is no shame in this. I did so for 1 year.
I was threatened by someone here that said they wanted to beat the shit out of me and named the place. That was the only time I called foul.
Miffed;-)
Would you prefer if we met on the interwebs and measured dicks?
Ok I'll start. Mine is 14 inches long.
Miffed would suffer a handicap in a dick measuring competition - she lacks the equipment, but I bet she's well above the 90th percentile in IQ points and can take you out in an insult duel.
What insult duel? Are you starting one?
And since we're still on the interwebs I'll have you know that my IQ is 220!
Well with an IQ of 220 one would think you would become more than a slave. Especially with a dick of your size. Perhaps you are a sex slave. Lucrative in some circles I can imagine. May be we are confused as to the unit of measure.
Miffed;-)
The chains may be around my wallet but I still get fucked in the ass.
The lament of most here I'm sad to say. Myself included.
I am sorry I cannot compete in your dick wielding challenge. I don't even own a strap on much to the relief of Mr who would find that utterly abhorrent. May be in the future we will stumble on a better subject for competition.
Miffed;-)
Yeah but Bump, you and I could win with simply our virtual dicks dont cha think? Our IQs could be used for toying prior to evisceration.
Miffed;-)
Yes, isn't that interesting?
Where did I post bullshit maggot? As far as I can tell, one of your 15 week old blind travellers said I was a "controlled opposition" and I confronted him on it.
Or do you want to run through the ten planks again (which you agreed to) starting with five & six?
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Here you go dumbass, yes or no to each.
5. Centralization of credit (not money) in the hands of the state, by means of a national bank with State capital and an exclusive monopoly.
6. Centralization of the means of communications and transportation in the hands of the State.
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Still waiting for you to tap out Rand...I can break it if you like ;-)
Sock puppet. Or users who like to troll under different names. You know the drill. There are tons of 'new' users here. Stay focused and try not to let them get under your skin. Calling someone controlled opposition is like throwing out the old 'anti-semite' curveball. He/She probably hasn't moved past ad-hoc insults into the realm of functional thought.
Oh, and to all (including myself): Two to a fight. Though I suspect nmewn can handle his own in a royal rumble.
I hope everyone noticed Rand didn't want to answer.
That observation comes with two parts, it shows he doesn't want to reveal he's a communist but it also shows he hates to lie.
Good & bad ;-)
I gotta say, everytime I see rand's name I hear "Lemme Eat Yours" in a gravely voice. Thanks for the lol.
Nmewn, over the years i have come to the conclusion what people don't say is often far more revealing than what they do, here and in real life.
Let me also say I have come to know you and realize there is no possibility you could be remotely "controlled opposition". This accusation is made either in ignorance or a personal selective strike designed to incite a response from you. If taylor-made, I recommend caution. I myself am guilty of this and in a mock challenge to you caused a deep revealing here. One should not tease a stallion lightly and I learned a lesson with whom I was truly dealing.
Your courage, faith and resolve is unquestioning to me and I know you are the real deal. I am forever honored to have you as friend.
Regards,
Miffed;-)
It takes a real bar fight to see who the real sobbers are. Until then this is all virtual.
Then if it is all virtual why concern yourself when someone is " mean and nasty"? In this arena feelings are of no consequence unlike the construct of our PC world today. Things do get belligerent and swear words often fly when arguments get heated but interesting conclusions often emerge from the fight. Whereas in a bar fight, there are only injuries to mend and blood to clean. Leave people alone to duel it out is the best approach and not comment how someone has been " mean". This sounds so pathetically female.
Miffed;-)
Are you above an apology?
I'm giving you one last chance, make use of it...honor & character mean more to me than you apparently...I don't lie and I don't appreciate people slandering me...its your choice.
I googled "pillow fight," and this is what I get?
I googled "controlled opposition" and got you.
Isn't it odd how you work?
Shall I go off half-cocked and throw feathers at you?
Why don't you invite him to apologize or are you doing the "controlled opposition" FOR HIM that he accussed me of?
Ya know, the funny thing about honesty & character is, it always presents itself in the most unexpected ways ;-)
For "controlled opposition" I got back Pocahontas. For "LTER" all I get is Mexican Donkey Show.
I thought it was 2 to a fight. Have we completely dispensed with the rules? Would seem fitting living in the times we live. Pillow seems about your speed though.
Miffed;-)
A communist Rand & two newbs, I think I can handle it ;-)
Too easy. May I suggest a couple of shots for a handicap? A quick cold cock is boring for us onlookers.
Miffed;-)
Careful, he'll be pissed about the quick, cold cock comment.
You may be right. I don't see nmewn liking herbed whiskey. Perhaps more your style? ;-)
Miffed;-)
You and Newman are obviously birds of a feather :(
Simply counterbalance. Voice of pragmatism vs esoteric ivy tower theories of academia. Love of constitutional foundations vs social engineering and constructs. Suspicion of government vs welcoming perceived "safety" via constraints resulting in loss of freedoms.
I take no offense being branded his comrade nor to you for being a dissenter. Why should one win over the other? We'd be left with a marshmallow cream bland world.
Miffed;-)
And how could man be more than a
talking, tennis playing panda bear...
...if there weren't at least the
possibility of suffering?
I don't think Rand got the spider part of the whole equation ;-)
Actually, that's pretty damn funny.
You want an apology? What is this 2nd grade? It's fight club...
So you trust anyone here that sounds good huh? No skepticism... just blind passion?
Are you going to pull rank on me next? Maybe you died sometime ago and the NSA hijacked your account. Surely it's not a stretch to believe they have that capability and use it. So take your Internet "honesty & character" and stick it up your a**.
And no I won't be apologizing anytime soon.
Yes, its fight club and you just tapped out because you can't prove the accusation, as its false.
NO dumbass, if you would have cared to read every BitShit thread you would have discovered an alliance with my thoughts WITH the aim of the "true believers"...not the foniestars and darkpoolsofbullshit who cashed out (in fiat) long before you ever showed up around here.
I gave you the opportunity (twice) to prove you were worthy of fight club and admit that your ego and zeal for BitCoin got the best of you, that you became irrational with a slur.
It was a hand up, not a slap, learn to recognize what was offered to you for the next fighter you'll confront, you're going to need all the help you can get from what I can tell ;-)
Firstly, you are clearly the one with the bruised ego and down-voting me with your different aliases won't change many opinions on that matter. Your comments are never that inspiring so I usually skip them, but if you care to summarize your position on Bitcoin I will listen.
Secondly, if you are truly dumb enough to argue that skepticism is a poor quality then bring it bubba.
Thirdly, it's not up to ME to prove YOU are credible. That's your job.
Keep digging...
GF, I personally think that he did over react but doesn't take away from the fact that he has always been a top notch poster on this forum and if you can doubt his credibility then you have a problem . Witty, ascerbic, droll and on target is how most posters (and lurkers) would characterise him and personally I only rate Boris as a better poster.
"Firstly, you are clearly the one with the bruised ego and down-voting me with your different aliases..."
You're pretty good at making accusations without substantiating any of them aren't you? I have one account, one on-screen name. Send an email to the Tylers or Sacrilege and ask them, if you have the balls. I'm sayin you don't.
"...but if you care to summarize your position on Bitcoin I will listen."
I don't work for free, dig them up yourself or make an offer. ZH is free, they are all there. I've only deleted one comment the whole time I've been here spud and it had nothing to do with ShitCoin.
"Secondly, if you are truly dumb enough to argue that skepticism is a poor quality then bring it bubba."
How old are you? You just accused me (again, without presenting any evidence) of having multiple accounts. Thats not skepticism, thats an accusation. Now I'm not only skeptical of your powers of observation and cognitive skills but your motives.
"Thirdly, it's not up to ME to prove YOU are credible. That's your job."
Ahhh, I see the problem now, you are an imbecile and I'm a fool for arguing with an idiot...lol.
Ei incumbit probatio qui dicit, non qui negat.
I figured you'd be back after almost a day to get the last word for the archives... Your ass must have been really bruised last night. Unfortunately this post is buried so it's pointless to continue. You see, I'm here to share ideas... not to pad my ego like you. I have no desire to smash you any further.
No thanks, I'd rather not go searching for your comments on Bitcoin, But now I think I recall you using the term “ShitCoin” often and having no clue about the protocol.
The sad part is you still don't understand my first comment. If you did, you'd realize that I was trying to provoke a healthy debate on being skeptical of everyone but you couldn't look past yourself.
“How old are you?”
Old enough to know that skepticism is important. Old enough to check my ego every once and awhile. Old enough to know it's pointless arguing with you any further. Old enough to let you have the last word...
Gaius, you were the one who first accused nmewn for being controlled opposition. It was not a question. How can this be debated? This is not the " sharing of ideas". This was a provocative statement meant to incite wrath in another. That you got such a response and then claimed it was undeserved makes me wonder about your true motives here. If anything you represent controlled opposition by doing what you did. The reason it took nmewn awhile to respond to your post is he is on the east coast and has a job. It was not to have the last word on a dead thread to be archived. You seem to revel in unsubstantiated accusations.
I know some here post as personas and keep their true selves private. This is their business. Nmewn and I post as ourselves. True, there is no way to prove this fact by the nature of an online anonymous forum. But I have never caught nmewn in a lie or seen him waver from his core beliefs in the 3 years I have read his posts. I accept him as he is unless shown proof otherwise. The same can be said of myself. I will not lie because we live in a lie today.
Nmewn is not the only one suspicious of Bitcoin. Several computer programmers here have expressed reservation. My husband is a software architect with more than 30 years experience and will not touch it for many reasons. I think it has speculative value but not a store of value. Call me old fashioned but I prefer the tangible.
Miffed;-)
I do have a job that limits my commenting and I have to return later because it is unethical to comment while someone is paying me to be doing something else.
It would seem, integrity, character, honor are in short supply these days and like our newb here, I'm quite sure he is shocked as to why those with these positive virtues/attributes refuse to lay themselves on the line for him/them, as they have no concept of it. There is nothing more hollow than dying for unappreciative cocksuckers...lol.
Now, off to the mines ;-)
Last week I was stuck in traffic and had the joy of staring at " yes we can" , " I heart Obama", " Obama 2012" plastered on the cocksucker's car in front of me. My trifecta of personal hell. After 30 min I almost had a melt down and had the uncontrollable urge to ram the car repeatedly.
When I got home I slapped my request for budget change on Mr Miffed's desk. On stressful work days I'm allowed to walk over to the bar nearby and get a nice shot of my choice before heading on to the freeway thereby being more in a proper state of mind when encountering an undeserved asshole. You can imagine my anger when my petition was returned with a large red DENIED on the top. The small note below did not help. " there is nothing wrong with you a bucket of Prozac and a polo mallet can't cure. If that is not acceptable for you than many I suggest : CUT BACK ON ZH!"
I guess we are stuck with who we are nmewn but I really don't think that's a bad thing. May be some day we will be thanked for it . Semper fidelis
Miffed;-)
P.s. I did type this at work but I am off the clock at this moment. ;-)
For those who are so foolish, let their vital fluids be siphoned away by Shelob. Once done there is no going back. Perhaps then the guillotines will be engaged, Robespierre will emerge and the Reign of Terror will commence.
Ok, may be that's not so good of an outcome. ;-)
Miffed;-)
yeah, but those laughs will soon turn into glares of envy and jealousy...
and then, watch your fucking back...that day is not far away...
until then keep stackin'....quietly that is...
They made gold illegal once before (monetary gold), what makes you think they won't just go a little further this time and make owning ANY gold illegal?
Eventually, you'll realize that there is NO safe haven the government can't invade.
I grew up with sort of a rough crowd when I was younger (Bikers. Pagans, actually, although I'll quickly point out I was never a member. PFFP.). You learn pretty quick that there are times you fight. Doesn't matter that you're going to get your ass kicked. You fight anyway.
yeah i fammiliar with the act of 1933...
however what is not well known is that many did not cooperate and told the banker owned president of the time to fuck off..
they aint taking nobodys metal...
too many guns, and to many pissed of "Freemen"...
not havin it...
They took most of the gold back in '33 without any need to go door to door or order people to hand it over.
With a few strokes of a pen every depositors gold was gone. People had deposited money, either actual gold coins or banknotes ( payable in gold coin) in thier accounts over the years and woke up to find that they will only pay back in either silver coin or paper. That trick took maybe 90% of all the peoples gold that either existed or was promised.
Point taken. But considering I am the only one who has guns out of 60 people and am considered the person to call when a spider is seen in the lab to dispatch (one gay guy was standing on his chair screaming for me the other day), I don't anticipate many problems. However, i do sleep with my loaded XD-40 on my nightstand and my shotgun near by. You can't be too careful in desperate times. They know I have gold but they think it's in an IRA. I guess I should tell them I moved it into a MyRA. ;-)
Miffed;-)
"And they still laugh at me at work for buying " that depreciating golden asset"."
The only ones who should know about your [figuratively here] appreciating ass are you and yours only.
edipdate: I responde before seeing the immediately above; Best Wishes
The depreciating asset joke came about when everyone had bought new cars ( most high end) and I was the only hold out. Since I live on a dirt road my car is always dirty and the bumper is held up by wire. People were complaining just parking by my car made theirs look bad and were always asking when I was going to get a new one. I told them I don't invest in depreciating assets. This was when gold was dropping from it high and someone really chided me about my " golden depreciating asset". It's been the lab joke for quite awhile. I just let them laugh and say nothing more. Hubris can always get one in trouble and I keep my purchases to myself which is wise for all of us.
I actually do have a small gold IRA. It's my decoy. ;-)
Miffed;-)
Will always be billed as convenient and secure, but the cashless society begins and ends with total control and confiscation of wealth.
The fact that there is enough technology and systems in place to make a cashless society a plausible possibility indicates how advanced Technocracy and the Technocratic State is.
The control scenarios are endless. Eg didn't give your kid a hundred vaccines before he/she turned 6; well you're fined X credits and your account is frozen at The Company Store until you do.
Gates is pushing cheap mobiles in Africa to increase uptake of M-Pesa to eliminate cash based communities. He is also using same mobile phones given to "health" workers in India to track who is pregnant in remote Indian villages so the child's vaccination dates can be planned before it is born and its mother then faces constant pressure to treat her child as TPTB dictate.... total control.
But the army and the police, I bet, are still going to use real bullets.
If you will it, dude, it is no dream. - Theodor Herzl
Israelis want to see if it's possible. in this guy's opinion it would be an unmitigated disaster. stop issuing schekels and suddenly everyone is conducting business in an alternate currency, be it dollars, silver, copper, or whatever currency allows the underground economy to continue to thrive. try as they may, the govt will never put an end to that economy cuz it's like a cockroach, it will outlive us all.
Good point. There is that nasty little "whoever jumps first, loses" problem.
There is no such thing as a cashless society. Cash was invented before sex.
"It looks like the terrorists are exploiting poor little Isarel's noble attempt to stamp out tax avoidance, by using cash in our currencies, instead! So... we're going to stop using cash, too, to help our good allies and partners in the war against humanity, er, sorry, er, terrorism" - Obama, Cameron, Draghi, et al.
Do the Israeli fools trust their government and banks will not credit the government's and/or bank's chosen with extra allowances in their accounts? Trust in government or banks is a delusional fantasy. Who'll check on banks or the government internally?
"Do the Israeli fools trust their government and banks..."
Well, they've convinced themselves they're not stealing Palestinian lands so why not?
And we convinced ourselves we didn't steal the Indians, see my tears..
We conquered the indians and took their land fair and square. Just like they did to some other people years earlier.
It's the way of the world. History repeats itself because human nature doesn't change.
Superior Persons responsible for That East India Trading Something have your back fair und square. Like, totally human nature for a few planners to facilitate the natural de-monitization of silver. Coordinated in gene-causal plan CONtemporanious: send out the Jesuits for A Calming of The Savages (chop chop), instigate a few nature-y "tea for opioids/cash fer clunkers" deal of the (many) centuries, re-purpose "human nature" into something "HSBC" something.
Undeed, fair and sound, un-specially when observed through the lens moe/durn anthropology going back a few thousand years out of the other few hundred thousand humans have been around.
Been outside...ever? Heavy on the sectarian with that "We", hold the onions. Too spicy, they make me dyspeptic.
-FoiefuckingCo(u)lt
i saw that movie... justin timberlake, with olivia wilde as his mom (hot)... but back on point, the currency was time itself... and yeah, it was rigged.
Well they fooled themselves into the whole chosen people thing and then fooled themselves into believing they had some origin roots there, not where they really came from, like land of the fecked up khazars.
it would require everyone, especially the poor, to have bank accounts. it helps the banks, and will help with national sales tax, and so much more. it will do nothing to impede the high level looting operation.
Great points. We will literally become nothing more than pack animals for the govenment to improve upon their high level looting operation.
'No cash' may put a crimp in stuff that should be legalized, sex work & weed sales, 'illegal' gambling,
as well as waiter tips, babysitters, roadside stands of farmers, lemonade stands,
yard sales,
formerly secret and often now illegal or taxable handouts to panhandlers & relatives, ...
but the big-time finances of banksters, government, and global corporations will surely remain secret and classified.
Too bad George Owell isn't alive to see that his then unimaginable depictions of future government control were far too short-sighted.
Should the government insist on cashless aka digital-only money, what do you think this would to to stimulate bartering?
Bartering will no doubt be outlawed and your fucking government type neighbors will be reporitng you and, oh, can't forget the executions at your local town center to drive home the point.
These people attempted to voluntarily exchange value without giving the rest of us our fair share!
It logically would create alternative currencies. Maybe we'd end up paying people in something fairly fungible, like gasoline, or paying them in $100 prepaid cards at Walmart.
imagine what the future could be?
how about a caterpillar boot stamping down on the face of bibi netanyahoo forever.
The future, Peer to peer transactions. Non-digital currency medium.
Just like much of the "On the street" transactions are now. Only in the future(Near), it won't be just for drugs, it'll be for a pork loin or 5 frozen chickens, or kid medicine or a hundred different things. By a different class of people. By people who 5 years earlier would never have seen themselves doing it.
Go to your farmers market, and flea markets. You will see the future being manifested.
or watch "Max Headroom" again.
After spending the past 20 years expecting "the Beast" to rise from Europe, this has truly blown my mind. We are certainly living in crazy times...
Serves the murderous fuckers right.
Israeli Express, don't go to Jerusalem without it!
Actually as others have said, this only celebrates what's already happened. I use cash for stuff below about two sawbucks, and I still pay my utilities with a check, but I'm probably the only one on the block who still does either. The only cash transactions I do above $100 are at the coin dealer once every few years, and I'm thinking of giving that up, too. So, wtf.
Still, you don't want to make a Target of yourself, so I hope their security is good.
Israel will never be a cashless society as long as Netanyahu and his friends have their numbered bank accounts outside Israel. I am sure Israel's plan was first hatched by New World Order types as a way to control people's movements by controlling where your ATM or credit cards will be accepted. 20 years ago, there was an Israeli on 60 Minutes, a guy with coke bottle thick glasses, who was defending Israel's practice of torturing people to gather information. On 9/11/2001, you had the dancing Israelis in New Jersey, celebrating as they watched the World Trade Center burn. Israel is now led by murderers who follow the same ideology as Hitler, of a super race. Barry has no problem with following Israel's lead.
Excellent comment, but I think what you miss out on is the control this gives the system over all its miserable little sociopaths (like Netanyahu himself). Since the sociopath elite are the only ones with real visibility into these transactions, they will ignore all illegality until a minion crosses some line, at which point all that information will be used against them...
So it sounds great in theory (to the mind-break victims running the show), especially since the local mobs are basically also working for them (and hence also need to be controlled more), so there is still a lot of room for illegal businesses to grow, especially if they offer an ineffective way to get around the system, fooling people into thinking they can do their transactions invisibly (ex: bitcoin), BUT in fact I think the global situation is clearly getting ever further out of their control and that TPTB will fail to successfully manipulating it all like they have in the past...
In any case, I think you are right about how the mid-level crooks (like Netanyahu) probably don't really want this, but they are basically puppets (like Obama), or in any case they aren't deciding things, no matter how much they gesticulate in bald-faced attempts to try to convince us otherwise ('democracy' in action).
what about mOnEy LeSs ?
http://vimeo.com/61478618
Jerusalem is the dwelling place of many Archons - the mind parasites who keep us enslaved to psuedoscientific and psuedoreligious enslavement matrices.
It goes without saying that the cashless plan is about intimidation and control, not convenience and safety. What I want to know is, why has 20% of the Israeli economy gone underground?
Bacon.
A cashless society is discrimatory to the poor and homeless.
A grocery store I go to charges less for goods because they do not take credit cards so they do not have to pay a fee.
The beggar outside the grocery store would be put out of business.
This is discriminatory and raciss.
Yes,
it is a move to make sure the banks get a cut of every purchase made.
In addition to the processing fee that JPM already collects on every EBT transaction.
Back to government being the problem.
If the government can tell you how you will transact, it will also tell you with whom you CAN transact.
Scary, IMHO
Time for powerful magnets to zap this idea
We've actually beaten Israel to the "cashless" society. Everyone's broke!
anti semitick goys
you will pay compensation for your un hole ee comments about greater israel.
netanyahoolee is not insane not the new adoff hilter how dare you.
he is just a psychopathic rothschild office clerk
thats all
A psychopathic rothschild office clerk WITH NUKES.
Kinda changes things
hahahaha
You have to be fucking kidding.
Sounds like a rip off of the US welfare system.
It's offical. They really do think we're all morons.
It won't work.
yup how will the knesset pay for hookers drugs and child prostitutes.
even sex slave need cash hush monies they cannot keep killing them all some will have too be paid off.
I'm so ready for the colonization of Mars!! Fuuuuuck this!
One for you. One for me. One for you. Two for me. One for you. Three for me.......
If I wanted complete control over every single person's life that's what I'd do. After I got that done I'd make everyone melt their gold into a big idol and pray to it. Then I'd re-start human sacrifice.
Love the cut of your jib
"According to a study conducted by MasterCard... "
We'll be sold out for a few tens of thousands of dollars in each congresswhore's pocket, and a board seat or $100k speaking fee for a handful of chieftains.
They are looking at this backwards and banning the wrong thing. Cash is not bad, Sales taxes are bad.
RIP Aaron~
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YKlq9e8zlPE
Israel would be a good place not to be, neither is any country which for the sole purpose of benefiting the civil servant and huge corporations put we the people under this yoke.
I am not religious, but my memory tells me this type of thing was prophesied before Armageddon.
Those in power forget we are human beings, and there is a small group of us who won't tow the line for moral reasons, regardless what it may cost.
If cash is gone, I'll use something else, but I won't enslave myself to an electronic system.
You will, no doubt about that - in case you have no other choice left anymore.
But of course such a system ends almost immediately after the first serious power outage.
But they can move closer to such a system. For example every product valued beyond 100$ has to be paid via electronic money.
IMHO in the end it's a useless discussion. These are clear signs of a desperate and dying system. There's a lot of smoke already in Babylon. Just a matter of short time until it finally gets what it deserves.
You would think the Jews of all people would have learned the utility of keeping small pieces of gold and jewels around as high-grade stores of value to barter with. This whole scheme seems particularly ill-suited for Israelis who retain any sort of historical memory.
Sheeple are sheeple - even the little Jews get eaten by the big Jews - look on it as a form of (un) natural selection. There has not been a pogrom for seventy years so the thieving and scamming gene may be weakening slightly.
Benefits to Israel of U.S. Aid
Since 1949 (As of November 1, 1997)
Foreign Aid Grants and Loans
$74,157,600,000
Other U.S. Aid (12.2% of Foreign Aid)
$9,047,227,200
Interest to Israel from Advanced Payments
$1,650,000,000
Grand Total
$84,854,827,200
Total Benefits per Israeli
$14,630
Cost to U.S. Taxpayers of U.S.
Aid to Israel
Grand Total
$84,854,827,200
Interest Costs Borne by U.S.
$49,936,680,000
Total Cost to U.S. Taxpayers
$134,791,507,200
Total Taxpayer Cost per Israeli
$23,240
Cashless sounds good to me. As in no cash ever. Zero edge. No cash for jew.
http://www.wrmea.org/congress-and-us-aid-to-israel/494-congress-a-us-aid-to-israel/9748-u-s-financial-aid-to-israel-figures-facts-and-impact.html
The majority of the "aid to Israel" didn't go to Israel. It went to companies and employees in the US who manufactured the goods that the aid paid for. Yes, the Israelis benefitted, but so did the Americans; and unlike similar aid to Egypt, Turkey and a whole host of other cuntries at least the Israelis (mostly) like the Americans.
The idea is clearly for a few to control everyone else.
Any such Government which even thinks about it, needs to be thrown out instantly by it's own citizens.
Damn. I was rather hoping they would turn israel into a glass car park instead.
That would solve at least one major problem...
Whodja think gets the first EMP?
my thoughts exactly and if the system is ever hacked or the governmentwants to shut you off - way too much control - gold and silver look better every day
Wouldn't this force an underground economy to rely even more on gold and silver as a black market medium of exchange?
Rev 13:16 is right to the point. Now, what are you going to do about it? Will you burn your debit cards? We burned draft cards once upon a time. It seems that time is approaching us again. Who do you serve, God or Mammon?
You will have to live off the grid on barter and stuff.
Of course, they may chop off your head if you don't go along.
You move to Bitcoin, Ripple or any other system outside the grasp of the government. Even gold and silver or goats will do.
You move to Bitcoin, Ripple or any other system outside the grasp of the government. Even gold and silver or goats will do.
"Government Plan Would Transform Israel Into The World’s First Cashless Society"oops...... i thought it said 'classless'.
:)
This measure is either unlikely (because it will accelerate the collapse), or the governments are even stupider than I thought (because this is shooting oneself in the foot of the highest order), or we are heading to an outright Konzentrationslager kind of future faster than previously estimated (because money is of no value there).
Once we hit "using cash regarded as criminal offence" - game over, we all will be North Koreans or as good as slaves.
Even in the USSR it was never a big issue to use or carry cash to around of 20,000 rubles (about 15 years worth of average of salary). There was no alternative method of payment. Top price tag was 10,000 rubles.
Having over 100,000 rubles was automatic death sentence.
CTRL+P. Less people to employ to run the presses and no machinery necessary and no counterfeiting and needs for armored vehicles and distribution. Look at all the positives. /Sarc off
It sounds almost funny to hear that the nation of people who gave money changers a bad name is now going cashless.
Then again, this is just to snare the little people. The big people will be dealing in gold, art, diamonds and other such "trinkets".
In fact insanely over priced art work is already used for purposes that do not show up on bank statements.
And don't forget who the two greatest Jewish prophets are.......scroll down for answer
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The ATM was down for an hour in my cafe the other morning..if they hadn't known me I wouldnt have been able to get a coffee without cash and I didnt have any on me with no ATM nearby. Then I started thinking what if the banks wanted to play games and turn their systems off from time to time to clear update them or fix some problem? What do we do? Stand around for an hour till everyone decides all systems go. Twice in Oz last year two of the four the Big Banks suffered major attacks and couldn't pay people's wages over a weekend and they were all stuffed. Yeah, cashless sounds like a really great idea like microchips.
I'm in Australia and about 25 years ago my employer (federal government agency) stopped paying our wages as pay-packets. It was then paid direct to our accounts which could only be accessed electronically or via ATMs unless you went to the head office (700 miles away). My credit union merged with another and their merged computer system crashed so the credit/debit cards couldn't work. I had no access to my savings or pay for 6 weeks. That was a hard lesson in what can happen when Big Brother stuffs up or wants to screw you over.
I now always keep a stocked larder and some money on hand for the next time that shit happens and I pay cash wherever I can.
Australians have adopted cashless for convenience real quick - we don't use cheques (old spelling) or cash. Only 3% of what Aust spends is 'cash' and everytime we have a cyclone or storm in the northern region we see real quick how no-cash works out for folks. But hey we love our electronic pay checks and dont worry so much about the amazing fees we're charged and take comfort from being free of "unexplained wealth" problems!
BTW hope you enjoy getting cash out of your account; withdraw $5k and I have to give notice and answer questions - like they had no idea my employer deposited it into my account in the first place and now I can choose how I spend it when they are satisfied with my announced purchase???
There will always be loopholes for the bangsters and sociopaths being called our leaders - for making some extra underground income. Cash or not is not the point. The point is unlimited control of the poeple - with at the same time loopholes for the bad boys.
For example - no cash - but you can still use Gold and Silver coins, in case you can still find any.
Funny it gets after power outages. By coincidence or accident. Fastest way to bring down governments. Within 2 or 3 days you will have the poeple in the streets and burning banks and governments. All you need to do is to stop power supply. Back to the roots - back to the ice ages.
This human race stinks so much from it's head (leaders sticking to their seats and unlimited greed for unlimited power) and so much from the feet (sheeple not long already in the streets revolting against their dictators) - that it's really a shame and that it really deserves to get wiped of the map. Human has become nothing but an unbearable shame.
http://www.thewarningsecondcoming.com/666-will-be-embedded-its-number-hi...
Did you have to post that 3 times?
We have already read the Book of John thanks.
Do not be afraid, however, a Guy is going to come along and rip that stuff apart.
http://www.thewarningsecondcoming.com/666-will-be-embedded-its-number-hi...
http://www.thewarningsecondcoming.com/666-will-be-embedded-its-number-hi...
Since "money" is simply the highest-order (that is, most liquid) good in an economy (whether it be cattle, slaves, ammo, cigarettes, chocolate, silver, or gold), the removal of FRN "cash" would simply make other forms of transactional money more widely accepted for evading government scrutiny.
Prohibition rarely achieves its intended goal and often promotes an opposite result.
A cashless system could also be controlled on an individual basis from a microchip implanted in the hand or forehead. mmmmm I think i read about that somewhere ....
Me, too. I think it was a story about an Evil Person who takes over the world for a short time.
That's actually not the main point, Tyler.
Yes, Government can monitor what you DID.
But it can also monitor what you are DOING in real-time.
And I imagine some government official in front of his computer getting the message
"Tyler Durden is about to pay for a sixpack beer and the fourth fatty pizza this week. Confirm payment or reject?"
So monitoring is only the beginning. Once cashless those guys up there will also be able to control EVERY aspect of you life with the click of a mouse - or more probably with a computer algorithm.
Soda ban? No problem. Pizza ban? No problem.
For any reason the government can turn off your electronic payment system. Believe me you do not want governmnet to have that kind of control over your life to be able to turn off your ability to buy and sell.
"But is a cashless society actually desirable?"
More to the point, is it KOSHER?
Some rabbi's gonna make his name over this. You watch.
I am on travel in the Imperial city. I saw 3 Tribal members at breakfast yesterday, no doubt owners in good standing of our republic. I am sure they were discussing this, as they each had a little plastic card they were using for money. One of them kept eying my bacon for some reason.
It is not.
Sodom and Gomorra had something like this "cashless society".
You know how it ended.
Even if you set aside privacy issues for a moment, the vulnerability of computerised systems alone is enough to reject a cashless economy outright.
One of the hats I wear is as a software engineer and I assure you that the following article is right on the money: https://medium.com/message/81e5f33a24e1
Everybody is moving to cash, gold, silver and bitcoin. Why would they do such a thing?
I never was much of a gold bug at all for ever. Even though I do have a little gold claim.... but this opens the world wide open to doing transactions in gold......
Everybody wants some and it grows in the gorund.... the only way to add without the feds getting their hands on it.......
As long as they let a guy carry a gun.................
Think I will keep my mine.......
It is probably the only untracebale way to earn wealth that there is........
I have said too much............
Great! I dont see any problems whatsoever!
When the shit hits the fan everyone is equally poor, and we will all help each other as true socialists.
All heil Josef Stalin
All heil Adolf Hitler
All heil Barak Obama
Last but not least
All heil Stanley Fischer and his MIT puppies
guns#check
au-bars#check
cans#check
No cash? No problem. You can always pay for that bread with a .45 round. Quick & Dirty.
As for the hookers? "Can I pay you with this loaf of bread, darling?"