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America's Obesity Epidemic Hits The Military: 1 in 5 Recruits "Too Fat To Fight"
Students consume almost 400 billion junk food calories at school per year, equal to almost 2 billion candy bars and while the epidemic of childhood obesity is not 'news' per se - for one big employer in America, it is a major problem. As Bloomberg Businessweek reports, the number one reason people can’t join the military is that they’re overweight or obese, and "still too fat to fight." The problem is large for active service members also with over 51% overweight (though better than the civilian population) as the DoD alone spends an estimated $1 billion per year for medical care associated with "weight-related health problems."
As Bloomberg Businessweek reports,
The No. 1 reason people can’t join the military is that they’re overweight or obese, says a group of retired military leaders who are fighting for improved childhood nutrition. Under the name Mission: Readiness, they estimate that more than one in five young Americans is too heavy to enlist in the armed services.
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The group has been advocating the removal of junk foods from schools and the imposition of better nutritional standards in school lunches. The epidemic, they say, is affecting service members as well.
In a report called “Still Too Fat to Fight” (below), the group writes: “Finding ways to reverse our epidemic of obesity is crucial because the U.S. Department of Defense alone spends an estimated $1 billion per year for medical care associated with weight-related health problems” for service members and their families.
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The Coast Guard has the highest proportion of overweight enlistees (57 percent); more than half of male service members are overweight, vs. 34 percent of women. Obesity affected 12.4 percent of service members, most often in the Army (15.8 percent) and Navy (14.9 percent) and about twice as frequently afflicting males (13.5 percent) as females (6.4 percent).
Among males who had to lose weight to join the military, 36.1 percent had to lose 10 to 19 pounds, and nearly 40 percent had to lose at least 20 pounds. Still, the military is doing better than the civilian population.
The full "Too Fat To Fight" report is below:
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This is where the corporations want us: Fat, Dumb and Helpless.
Well, we know what they want. They want more for themselves and less for everybody else, but I’ll tell you what they don’t want . . . they don’t want a population of citizens capable of critical thinking. They don’t want well informed, well educated people capable of critical thinking. They’re not interested in that . . . that doesn’t help them. That’s against their interests. That’s right. They don’t want people who are smart enough to sit around a kitchen table and think about how badly they’re getting fucked by a system that threw them overboard 30 fuckin' years ago. They don’t want that. You know what they want? They want obedient workers . . . Obedient workers, people who are just smart enough to run the machines and do the paperwork. And just dumb enough to passively accept all these increasingly shittier jobs with the lower pay, the longer hours, the reduced benefits, the end of overtime and vanishing pension that disappears the minute you go to collect it, and now they’re coming for your Social Security money. They want your fuckin' retirement money. They want it back so they can give it to their criminal friends on Wall Street, and you know something? They’ll get it . . . they’ll get it all from you sooner or later cause they own this fuckin' place. It’s a big club and you ain't in it. You and I are not in The big club.
George Carlin A hero of the Intelligensia
It's not a food problem. Nobody gets any exercise!
Kids today can't play/do shit on playgrounds,etc., because it's too dangerous, so they sit home, on their asses playing computer games.
"Where's my double cheeseburger?"
- B B King
It's a food problem too.
So Disney and Pixar had it right with Wall*E. Giant obese amorphous blobs. If you haven't see it, check it out.
I can't wait for cupcakes in a cup. "Now made with 2% real juice".
Back in the day the armed forces had The Fat Boy Program. You were in it till your boby fat met the standard or kicked out.
Those were the days my friends
Boot camp used to take care of those who had this problem. Now that would be racist, sexist, or wimpist. Might offend someone if they were expected to confirm to guidlines designed to train them to be worthy of the uniform.
"worthy of the uniform" eh.
vote much? *waves flag*
I agree with Knuckles ...partially...
It's an "eating too much problem" and not enough exercise and discipline problem. No one is forcing anyone to scarf a Double Whopper with four slices of processed cheese and three strips of bacon on it and supersized fries with a Big Milk Shake.
I was disappointed Obamacare had zero incentives for people to lose weight or even try to stay healthy. Zero...nada... In fact, free health care incentivizes people to have worse health habits since they ain't paying for the damage they are doing to their own bodies...OPM is paying.
The BMI is a very warped measure of a person's obesity. Because the BMI depends upon weight and the square of height, it ignores basic scaling laws whereby mass increases to the 3rd power of linear dimensions. Hence, larger individuals, even if they had exactly the same body shape and relative composition, always have a larger BMI.
I wonder how many of the "overweight" Marines are guys who benchpress 300 pounds and have arms bigger than most people's legs.
Not many. The Lean Crew Team types are involved now.
"free health care incentivizes people to have worse health habits since they ain't paying for the damage they are doing to their own bodies...OPM is paying."
OPM is NOT paying for free healthcare! Taxpayers and those who pay for their own health insurance are paying so that freeloaders can have free Obamacare!
Sure that would be good and the right way, but boot camps reduce revenue!
Fat people are revenue generators! Since they do not spend their time outside in nature (which is free and costs nothing), they consume and buy. Revenue! And they eat more food than they need. Revenue! And they have health problems. Revenue! And they become sick. Revenue!
The free market loves fat people!
The market takes care for everything? What BS.
During the 90's when I was in, combat units in the Corps routinely kicked people out for being too fat. Yet by '98, things were really getting soft in the services, enlistments and re-enlistments were way down, plus people got sick and tired of how soft the services were getting, in general, so they beat feet for the civilian world.
By '98 things were getting to be real bad, I witnessed affirmative-action hire boot lieutenants going to bat for the laziest, fattest shitbags, so they could re-enlist despite barely meeting weight regs, or they were just out of regs. To think it's gotten way worse after two wars galls me, but to each their own.
I did see it. And now and then come across a scooter blob. These days I fee more pity than revulsion.
I'm guessing Krispy Kream sold out after offering a 10% discount on their Dozen Donut Memorial Day sale if you show your military ID.
In Arlington it was even better....a Free Donut and coffee if you show up in military uniform. The good news is recent research shows coffee is loaded with antioxidants.
You mean an 100 pound kid isn't meant to consume 1500 calories of deep fried cheese doodles dripped over a 1/2 pound pink slime burger, oil soaked fries with 3000 mgs of salt and a 48 ounces of soda that contains 22 teaspoons of sugar.
WELL FUCK. I THINK WE ARE ON TO SOMETHING!
LOL
Yo, you be makin' me hungry, bro...
LOL!
Don't forget the flour -- how about some mac and cheese?
Try some "Poutine" , a French-Canadian dish.
French fries with gravy over them and topped with cheese.
It not only makes you fat, it also lowers your IQ at least 20 points.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poutine
It is most definitely a food problem. Not saying knuckles is wrong, because that is a huge part of it, but most people, especially young ones, eat processed garbage. Shit created in a lab to imitate food but the human body is not designed to digest it. I read a while back that one of those 'hungry man' meals has nearly 200 ingredients, most of them unpronounceable chemicals. It's so cheap too. My family has been going more and more organic over the past couple years, and it is a lot more expensive. 99c a pound for organic bananas may not sound like much, but when to compare it to 70c for non organic, it's a huge difference, an that price difference applies to pretty much everything. And when you thin about it, all I am trying to do is eat REAL food, and it's more expensive. I know many on here will say I should be growing my own, and they are right, but my current living situation doesn't allow me to do that. Maybe one day
I've always maintained that calling it "organic" was a big mistake. It may help the marketing efforts but it doesn't help the plight of the people. Organic food should be named FOOD and everything else should be called SCIENCE EXPERIMENT.
As for exercise, I say sex is the best way to spend your time. You have fun and lose weight. Beats the hell out of running around the block like an idiot.
9 zillion diet programs and everyone is fat as fuck. RIDICULOUS!
"Sex is the best way..."
Puts a whole new spin on Sweatin' to the Oldies w/ Richard Simmons...!
That produces a mental image I did not need... >_<
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if youre not eating low carb, high fat, you have no idea how shitty you actually feel. mark sisson is to health as ron paul is to politics and economics. try his 21 day challange. the govt is trying to kill you and make you stupid, which is why GRAINS are at the bottom of the food pyramid. stop eating them immediately. eat lots of meat (grass fed if possible), eggs, green vegetables, some dairy and fruit. no processed food and NO GRAINS. dont matter if theyre whole.
i fixed my allergies, joint pain, and hairloss. my sister fixed her cysts, allergies, pimples, and chronoic trips to the doctor's office. my dad lost 30 pounds and is down to 15% body fat. your energy will go through the roof and you will feel great ALL DAY.
also look into intermittent fasting. ive had lots of success there as well.
+1 for real food including lots of meat and eggs. I barely eat any grains any longer and can report several of the same results as Bro of Sorr...
On the topic of this article, I have just one or two simple questions. First, does anyone else hear the constant barrage of PSAs and ads telling us how many kids go to bed hungry every night? So if there are so many kids going hungry, how the fuck does that square with the reports of the "epidemics" of obescity and diabeties that we also constantly hear about? So if we are all fat and have declared war on obescity, why the fuck do we still have a war on hunger?
Corporate/media/.gov propoganda to divide us and control us and scare us. Just answered my own questions I guess...
What a nation of igadget imbeciles we have become!
Interesting. I have read about that already, but I'm sceptical.
Competitive athletes eat lots of noodles, don't they? They are made of Durum.
Isn't it possible, that the problem is more the combination of wheat and milk? For example pizza. Or eating bread and some cheese.
I'm no expert, I'm just talking about my personal experiences and there I have noticed that milk and cheese are incredible shape destroyers.
My face becomes fat by eating pizza, but I can eat spaghetti bolognese without any negative effects.
Biggest mistake to think it's only one factor.
It is a combination of factors.
But the good news is: this also allows to eat tasty fastfood. It's the amount that counts.
No need to eat unprocessed food only. A healthy amount of it is enough.
No need to hunger, too! Just make sports. Our body has not evolved for sitting and eating without hard work. So we artificially need to give the body what it naturally is made for: movement. Sports.
And the time when you eat. The stomach should be empty when going to bed.
And last but not least: stop eating cheese and milk products. You will be amazed how the body fat goes down and the fat fromt he face does away. I have noticed this effect with joghurt personally not much, but milk and cheese are incredible shape destroyers.
"I'll gladly fight on Tuesday for a hamburger today"
http://chuckleaduck.com/comic/is-it-vegan/
(re: it's a food problem too)
"I bought her a five-course dinner and she said thanks for the snack." -- BB King
Sugar
Nobody is holding a gun to your head forcing you to buy/eat Wonder Bread, Baloney, and Velveeta sammiches with a side of Cheetos. At least with corporations, you have some choice. Is it is much choice as the free market would offer? Perhaps not. It is however, still a choice.
Damn... that sounds good right now....
Fried baloney and Velveeta sammies
with pickles
Nah, half the shit in food should be banned outright. The reason they aren't is because the corps own the fucking fda, politicians, and doctors.
Proven neurotoxins exist in diet soda but they aren't banned because...?
If they fuck up your head and body and make you die, they didn't lie.
You lost weight.
And when you're dead its harder to give a deposition at the trial.
Because the Food Business has the FDA and everybody else on their fucking payroll?
dont forget the safety knucks, because dead is the ultimate in personal safety. we have to strive to be safe!
It's never OK to tell a corporation they can't do something.
Caveat Emptor, mother-fuckers.
You got me there knukles. Hahaha
Did you read about how the EPA recently came out and said the water we drink has TOO MUCH FLOURIDE. Yeah, shit is fucking up kids and adults teeth and bones. Now, the last time I checked, we didn't have any choice about whether the toxic by product from Aluminum smelting was put into water, the shit that makes up 75 percent of our being.
Government recommends lowering fluoride levels in U.S. drinking water http://www.cnn.com/2011/HEALTH/01/07/fluoride.recommendations/We are being systematically poisoned.
Another Conspiracy Theory becomes Conspiracy Fact.
For 15 years+ I been telling people that fluoride is a fucking toxic poison.
But oh, fucking no....
I don't mind people thinking I'm crazy, but I do get so tired of listening to peoples uninformed prejudiced, propagandized bullshit.
BTW, We, the USofA hung Germans after trials at Nuremberg for poisoning internees in Concentration Camps with Fluoride... it pacified them.
Because Donald Rumsfeld! Google him and Aspartame.
Well...hell....they're fat because they haven't been going to war enough.
Send 'em out again...for more.
There has to be SOMETHING the Elite's need that we have to go kill somebody over and take it for ourselves.
another era like the Dirty Thirties will fix that right quick... poor, starved, and unemployed... perfect cannon fodder
the corporations may or may not want you fat, dumb and helpless.
last time i checked, McD's, Nestle, Unilever, Cargill, Tyson, and the rest of the mass-industrialized food complex doesn't have forced-feeding tubes hooked up to the masses....
until you people wake up and realize that you and only you have the power to change your circumstances, you will never be leaner, smarter, and helpful.
stop blaming TPTB and rationalize it as an excuse for your own poor choices and decisions.
focus on the center of the universe, which is yourself.
create the energy inside you to lead by example and influence the others around you.
you will see some amazing things start to happen.
and just have a little patience.
they (corporations) don’t want a population of citizens capable of critical thinking. They don’t want well informed, well educated people capable of critical thinking.
True but it's not just the corporations. It's the Real/Permanent Government that rules over us.
I knew going to a small littoral Navy was a mistake. Bring back the BAttleships cap'n or we are going to sink.
Hey! With all that fat around, and soap being easy to get, we can make a shitload of bombs!
A movie told me so...
Those battleships were designed in the 1940's when BMI's were a lot lower. I doubt Seaman Porky could make it through the hatches. But, bring back the battleships anyway. Nothing says you mean business quite like lobbing car sized artillery shells 25 miles. (Or nuclear tipped cruise missiles thousands of miles)
Hello my name is Dewey Oxberger ... My friends call me Ox.
any tinfoil hat guesses as to why they are allowing an NBC interview with Snowden on tonight?
Discredit him.
That's not a question, Fonz
thats the legit theory. I am looking for tinfoil hat. Here let me give you mine. he does the interview. It goes smoothly. Americans become sympathetic to him. The Potus comes out and arranges for him to come home. Even though he is disappointed in him, he is a compassionate leader and he gets another peace prize on the spot for the decision. As soon as he lands in the U.S, he gets whacked and some crazy russian intelligence agent gets blamed. But his body is immediately confiscated and dumped in the ocean to preserve his religious beliefs before Putin gets to question anything.
Huh. I hadn't thought of it that way.
I was thinkin' they were tryin' to get you and me together so they could arrest us both at once....
You know, the old catch 'em while they're watchin' telly, spooning trick
I really wonder when they release that list from snowdens journalist buddy, how many of us will be on it. we should get t shirts with the list if we are.
Oh, fuck yes!
Brilliant!
I Survived Snowden's List
...with a pyramid and evil eye on it, Satan in the background, flames, the Grim Reaper...
betcha somebody's already getting an ad going for something like it...
Fonz. You're a Genius!
Snowden's journalist buddy is gearing up for a big-ass show.
pity he couldn't time his display closer to the book launch, but ah well, eh GG.
worth a read if you're into non-hero-ick worship, critical eye.
everyone else, guess you wait for the movie of the book,
GGreenWald, kaching!! wonder if he's sharing any of this haul with Snowden. . .
As self proclaimed king of the tin-foil-hats clan of one, if he comes home, it's for a debriefing and a job well done.
now were talkin. thats the other theory. He was always meant to come home and this is the path.
If it is a debriefing....nevermind, another bad reggie joke.
I glanced at several articles today about the interview, but what I really wanted to look at were the comments. I had a hunch about something and wanted to see if it would happen again (I first noticed it after the Boston Marathon bombing).
Not surprisingly, almost every article had a chunk of "He's a traitor!" comments spammed at nearly the same time at the start of the comments section. I don't do the Twatter thing, but I imagine there's also a shit-ton of anti-Snowden tweets today.
SMISC, bitchez. Look it up.
A Jelly doughnut?!?!
Just think of it as more surface area to pin medals onto those drone pilots unifroms.
We need a small literal virtual navy to defend the tankers tanking gas form North Dakota to Munich.
The VA will take care of them, they have a list ;-)
do fatties sink to the bottom of the list or float to the top?
;-)
All depends on who's list we're talking about. If they're "brown or female fatties" (the color/gender flavor of the day) Cantor & Obama puts em on the escalator, first in line, float to the top.
All others, take a number and the stairs sloping downward into the basement, on the death watch list.
Boot camp generally weeded out flunkies, drug addiction and pink pillow spooning types.
Heh. In bootcamp there was no time, space or energy for spooning.
Well, I guess you ain't been in the service for a while, no?
Today's Army teaches recruits how to equitably share their KY survival ration
Ah, right. NO it's been a looong time. The only inappropriate touching incidents I remember in bootcamp were: 5 brothers giving an after lights out lesson to a moron on the inappropriatness of the "n-word" and b) getting bitch slapped by a hungover psycho SEAL for failing to follow directions given while I was in another room.
Thanks knuckles. I can demonstrate all the newly recruited fags in the military. This goes back to Iraq/afgan wars. We're building a french US military force. Very sad. These cunts will eventually be dropping their guns and waving a white flag.
Well, that's all well and fine, as long as the order is given to fight to the last he-she.
q: can you guess the french's military motto?
a: no, i give up.
q: exactly!!
I thought that the New Army of One encouraged pillow biting and spooning as morale booster for those so inclined and a disincentive for the rest.
All in all we were all just blobs in the wall.
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And the recruits come from what economic strata?
The poor,
Who has the biggest obesity problems?
The Poor.
Sad but true. The excuse that good food cost to much is often blamed, but I think it has far more to do with poor choices and lack of discipline.
no shit... those lists practically scream "not fit for duty because poor Hispanic that eats beans, lard, and flour all day"
at least it means those mexicans coming over illegally aren't taking over our military. sometimes you gotta take a win where you can get it.
fatnessness and weight blubber should not be important.
the important thing is we find bodies to fill the gaps within seal team 6.
the cia have now given a cast nine iron assurance that they will not assasinate any more seals with manpads.
The less able the US Military is to fight, the better off we'll all be.
They will fight from their keyboards.
junk food is more addictive than heroin, and cheaper than cocaine, watch (nice brainpictures):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JS-tTaCQAio
bon appetit
ps one thing they dont mention: after a period you are away from heroin or other drugs, but the addiction for junkfood just stays. got the proof only in german, sry: go to min 8:13, just the picture explaining everything;)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LdSQ5vnZ0JY
its manfred spitzer, explaining the brain
That's ok, they can be the ones who remote-control the drones.
Al. Somebody's gotta plug in and unplug the consoles.
Electrician's Cabin Boy and First Mate Plugboy
Give them a joy stick and let the fly drones. You can feed the potato chips and pepsi.
Load the fatties onto a trebuchet. The opposing side will die from laughter.
Fetchez le porc!
We are going to need a larger trebuchet.....
No wonder they made the HumVee so wide.....
Now they can fit a couple of porkers in the front. Is that the plan?
Go long cranes for the operating rooms.
Modern childhood sucks. They will put you on drugs if you say anything original or draw a gun.
Thought you meant 'from a holster.' Then realized you probably meant 'with a pencil.'
*sigh*
This is all part of Obama's kinder, gentler militarism. Instead of bombs and bullets, the MIC will send in legions of fat asses to eat the enemy into submission.
a good way to end all wars. Now we can have hot dog eating contests instead.
Blasting people half a world away from behind the safety of a computer screen in the Nevada desert doesn't require much physical fitness. Give Fattya bag of chips, a box of donuts, and a 12 pack, then tell him to go waste some bad guys!
Even without injuries, people that suffer from obesity have drastically reduced mobility. Carrying around a large amount of extra bulk, they are almost always out of breath, unable to bend, put their shoes on, get out of a chair, or walk unaided for more than a few paces. Climbing stairs is often out of the question for the massively overweight.
Obesity occurs over a period of time, is hard to combat, the bottom line, it detracts from the quality of life and there is no fun in being truly fat. I'm not particularly interested in saving the obese from themselves but I'm very concerned about the costs that the obese impose on others through higher health insurance rates, and for the taxpayers who pay for Medicaid, Medicare, and social security disability benefits.
Obesity is a huge problem and growing larger, it already cost America over $190 billion a year. Obesity accounts for about 21% of the amount spent on medical services and is set to rise much higher. If current trends continue, by 2030 the estimate is obesity will probably cost the country $550 billion a year. More on this "growing" problem in the article below.
http://brucewilds.blogspot.com/2012/06/obesity-huge-problem-for-america....
Just facts--I don't know who downvoted you. Beyond the social costs -- ie. the financial effect on others, it's just sad though to see people trapped in a miserable way of life. As one doc put it: fat, sick and with a bag of pills.
Diabetes can't be so bad, lot of people have it. It's not fair if I don't get to eat what I want. Fair or not, cause and effect is what's happening. Diabetes => gangrene, heart disease, blindness, stroke, kidnes disease. But hey, just a little pinprick for now.
And according the the Americans with Disabilities Act, such a condition may constitute a covered disability. Finally, equality for all.
a quick calculation shows that if you feed the fucking fat fucks more fucking fat then the fucking fat fucks that cant fucking fuck will get fucking fatter that the fucking fattest fat fucks that fuck about now and the fucking fattest fucks will soon fucking die
This will only cost $20 bn a year to fill the fat fucks so full of fucking fat that fucking fat fucks die five fucking times faster.
Burning the fucking fat fucks in fucking power stations instead of mausoleums with save another $30 bn in fucking oil cost savings making it a fucking win win win as we have more fucking room and fat fucks don't fucking crush the fucking life out of us as the fucking fat fucks take over half your fucking airline seat
I bet you all the mercs that make up the hired military are all perfecto physical speciments
Hey - just a thought:
maybe this is a good rationale for mandatory calorie restrictions, at least for those classes of people where obesity is a problem. Everybody could be issued a government card that would have a calorie limiting function tied directly to food purchases. Not enough calories left on the card? Sorry, no SPAM for you!
We could divert unhealthy calorie creation for food into something more productive like ethanol production.
Walking meters in every neighborhood. You have to walk a route and scan your card at timed intervals. If you do not, the IRS will add a health tax to your return.
LOL
The Navy ordered 200 New Subs. Turns out they were too small.
Socialism biatch
Government subsidized sugar and high fructose corn sirup. lol unintended consequences.
"I even like the chicken if the sauce is not too blue."
TV DINNERS.
Deduct the extra cost of medical care from the paycheque of an enlisted man, and I think you'll see some real swift action (no pun intended) on the weight front.
Why not just recruit Ethiopians, their obesity rate is a mere 7%. We can award them citizenship just like the mexicans.
But the folks I meet at Walmart tell me, "It's a hormone problem" as they waddle out of their Escalades parked in the friggin handicap zone meant for REAL disabled people.
A hundred years agp the British had the same problem .
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Recruitment_to_the_British_Army_during_the_...
"The healthy manpower was simply not there — in 1917–18 only 36% of men examined were suitable for full military duties,"
Mostly due to malnutrition .
Plus-la-change
Americans have full stomachs but they are mostly malnourished.
Africa land of the green ! desperately green!
According to the map, if you want to lose weight move to Ethiopia.
Who've guessed it?
The fatties rejected by the military are working at the airports fondling children and checking Depends for something hidden in them.
fat drunk stupid
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u1hnwvWhbJw (0:25)
American soldiers make easy targets - their ass cheeks are in separate zip codes....
Why would you need to be "in shape" to operate predator drones or government panty-cams ?
USA! USA! USA! We are still number 1 at something.
Killing is my business (Major Payne)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cXDsoM2QYqQ (0:09)
And you wonder why:
The Army and Air Force Exchange Service operates three Burger Kings and two Pizza Huts in Iraq. The Baghdad facility is one of the top 10 Burger Kings in the world.
http://www.defense.gov/news/newsarticle.aspx?id=27493
Beat me to it. Nice. Drone warfare is the way of the fat-ass
It's much easier to develop a plane with no pilot. It doesn't have carry as much weight so it's more energy efficient.
That's the military mind for you; always thinking up ways to save money by saving energy.
It was just a little over a hundred years ago that the British got involved in a little skirmish in S. Africa called the Boer War. At that time many young men from the lower-classes were rejected because they were too thin and weak to fight.
The enemy just has to develop "gravity-seeking missiles" in order to defeat the US military.
are you talking about rocks?
Here's the deal: the overweight label is terribly misleading. If you have any significant amount of muscle mass on you, you'll be considered overweight.
Any of you that aren't nancy boys or Jabbas, goggle CDC BMI calculator and put your stats in. Better yet, go put in the stats for any given top athlete.
I was about to type the same thing, but then I read your post.
I would like to add that there's an alternative measurement for those "Mesotrophic" body-types whereby a correction factor is figured in. I didn't get to see the calculation, but annecdotally, my experience went as this:
Yearly, routine health examine held at work. Part of which is measuring one's mass. If I'm 73 in. tall and weigh 225 lbs, my BMI is 225/732 x 703 = 29.7, which puts me nearly obese. The nurse measured my waist. I have a 34 in waist, my resting heart rate was 60 beats/min. and my blood pressure was 108 / 64. She said I'm fine.
My point being, is that if there a significant fraction of the military that remote resembles this figure, the numbers will appear skewed to this end. Why the BMI is even used for anyone other than frail men of the senior persuasion is beyond me. Most guys in the military have a fair amount of mass in their chest/shoulder area, their gluts, and legs.
no a 34 inch waste is not fine. I am 5'6" and weigh around 140LBS and 30 inch waste pants fit loose. My resting heart rate is high probably because I am taking Adderall for ADHD but of course that kills my appetite so I am not eating crap like pizza & chicken wings (think suburban crap places like Buffalo Wild Wings & Chipolte which will never be in the same league as a barely average restaurant in Manhattan ) but I am sure many of those with all that 'muscle mass' are on some type of steroid or HGH which somehow is socially accepted but a medication for ADHD is not....
Not exactly... Once you get away from the coast --- go inland say to central NY state or Massachusetts west of I 495 and see how overweight most are especially the women it looks grosteque.... Lots of muscle mass with fat is obese even if you load up on steroid while drinking 12 packs of beer every night and eating crap like chicken wings or whatever the sports bar in the suburban strip mall has on their menu (the stuff that passes for food in many of these towns should be banned but its apparent once you get out of Manhattan or Boston)
Make them eat what they kill. (Yes, even the drone pilots), just like hunters.
They'll either get grossed out and quit eating, or they'll quit killing.
Either way we're all better off.
I question this if they are using the bullshit BMI index. Going by that all NBA guys are obese.
Or blame te Mexicans if you saw the latest yahoo articoe of where the immigrants are from its shocking. almost every state the largest immigrant population is MEXICAN I dont have the link but when you see it its fucked up.
In NYC the largest immigrant population is Mexican & Dominican however these groups aren't really represented in the more affluent neighborhoods say on Park Avenue on the Upper East Side, Brooklyn Heights or on the Upper West Side around Central Park West....
How skinny does one have to be to sit in a chair in front of a screen and pilot drones...?
In other news, Fukushima is falling apart and building yet another "wall" this time made of ice. After this ice wall melts, because that's what ice does, maybe Japan can stimulate the US economy and hire our overweight grunts to help build a Lego wall. I'm sure these Lego blocks would be much less a task than the blocks used to build the great pyramids.
Then again, today, we live in a virtual world. The only walls most people around the world know how to constuct are with blocks of code, built and paid for, within APPS, to structure buildings to protect livestock in Farmville.
"Every day I stagnate here in Saigon, Charlie squats in the bush, getting stronger."
Lake, that is beautiful
+1,000 for the reference.
Ah, the smell of....
My 89 y.o. father in law served in WWII. He came from a very poor immigrant background, but became very well educated via the G.I. Bill. He has practiced caloric restriction (he's nearly vegan; does eat small amounts of wild salmon) for many years and is in incredible condition; he's in better shape (especially mentally) than most people I know. His only medication is a mild diuretic; his only surgery was prostate-reduction decades ago; he hasn't even needed cataract surgery yet!!!
His neighbor, a really nice guy in his late 50s, is a retired military officer, originally from a Midwest farm family. He is seriously overweight and is in terrible shape - gout and kidney stones and probably diabetic; he has a lot of surgeries. He eats the monster breakfast when they go out to eat together (my father in law has a coffee, that's all). I don't understand; he is not stupid at all, but he is digging his own grave with his fork.
People are mostly not rational when it comes to food. Self-control is apparently very hard. Portions are huge. Does anyone else remember the size of the old-time orange juice glasses? They were tiny!!! About one swig!!! When I was in college in the 80s, suddenly an orange juice could be four cups of juice!!!
that is why I have suggested Adderall or some other ADHD type medication for this lack of self control or this love affair with food. its an addiction plain & simple.
Belviq ! BOZO after BOZO lose weight after taking the drug.
Buy ARNA and get rich.
Too fat to fight ?
That is just BS. I bet Fat people are the best fighters. Their body fat stops bullets.
yeah, I was thinking I would be right behind the fattest fuck in the unit.
a quick calculation shows that if you feed the fucking fat fucks more fucking fat then the fucking fat fucks that cant fucking fuck will get fucking fatter that the fucking fattest fat fucks that fuck about now and the fucking fattest fucks will soon fucking die
This will only cost $20 bn a year to fill the fat fucks so full of fucking fat that fucking fat fucks die five fucking times faster.
Burning the fucking fat fucks in fucking power stations instead of mausoleums with save another $30 bn in fucking oil cost savings making it a fucking win win win as we have more fucking room and fat fucks don't fucking crush the fucking life out of us as the fucking fat fucks take over half your fucking airline seat
So there must be a way to vacuum out all their excess fat... recycle this lard and use for something like fuel or for electricity.. In ancient times, whale fat was used to light candles.
Vacuum, ???
Vacuum. I think road drills might work
sorry for the repost. but, i want to ensure the following point i made in the above thread doesn't get overlooked.
the corporations may or may not want you fat, dumb and helpless.
last time i checked, McD's, Nestle, Unilever, Cargill, Tyson, and the rest of the mass-industrialized food complex doesn't have forced-feeding tubes hooked up to the masses....
until you people wake up and realize that you and only you have the power to change your circumstances, you will never be leaner, smarter, and helpful.
stop blaming TPTB and rationalize it as an excuse for your own poor choices and decisions.
focus on the center of the universe, which is yourself.
create the energy inside you to lead by example and influence the others around you.
you will see some amazing things start to happen.
and just have a little patience.
Cue the weekly "Fat" article
Get ready haters... spew!