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Chicago Considers Boosting Minimum Wage To $15/Hour

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If there is one thing that the militarized warzone with the weapons ban (and which makes east Ukraine look like a kindergarten) namely Chicago, did not need in order to fall further into social chaos and disarray, it is a new tidal wave of unemployment: people freshly without jobs who for lack of better options would likely join the daily survival of the fittest routine on the streets of the windy city. And a tidal wave of unemployment is precisely what Chicago is likely to get if, as a group of Chicago aldermen have proposed, the minimum wage in the nation's third-largest city is nearly doubled to $15 an hour. Why $15? Because according to recently striking McDonalds line cooks, it's only fair, and is the minimum pay that fast-food workers have sought during national protests.

Chicago won't be the first to push for a city-level minimum pay raise: Seattle Mayor Ed Murray announced a plan earlier in May to raise the minimum wage to $15 an hour, making it the first major U.S. city to commit to such a high base level of pay. The proposal awaits approval by the city council. New York and San Diego also are considering such raises.

However, unlike other cities, Chicago is unique in that it has not one but two wage hike proposals on the table. As Reuters reports:

The group proposing the wage increase is separate from a panel Chicago Mayor Rahm Emanuel named last week among aldermen, labor and business leaders to provide recommendations for raising the minimum wage.

 

Alderman Ricardo Munoz said 12 to 15 of the 50 council members support the proposal to raise the minimum wage to $15 per hour and he expected more to join.

 

Illinois lawmakers on Wednesday approved an advisory referendum for the November ballot that asks whether the state's minimum wage should be raised to $10 an hour from $8.25. Governor Pat Quinn said he would sign the bill.

As for the justification, it's a cliched as that old Keynesian broken window fallacy:

"Study after study demonstrates that when you put money into the pockets of consumers, they spend it," Munoz said. "They don't hoard it in their mattresses."

And what does study after study show employers do to their employees when a mandatory and unexpected intervention by the nanny state tells them they have no choice but to see their profit collapse if they keep their existing workforce and have zero chance of passing on higher labor costs to an insolvent consumer? Do they, perhaps, fire a whole lot of people and tell those who still have jobs they have no choice but to work double as hard for the new minimum wage?

We should find out very soon.

And speaking of warzone, there was also this idiocy:

Declaring gun control "essential" to public safety, Chicago Mayor Rahm Emanuel on Wednesday proposed a gun shop ordinance that would videotape gun purchases and limit sales to one per month per buyer. The ordinance comes in response to a January court order invalidating a longtime ban on gun shops within the nation's third-largest city. The proposed law would require a 72-hour waiting period to purchase handguns and a 24-hour waiting period to purchase rifles and shotguns.

The ordinance would also require gun store employees to undergo background checks, and sellers to do quarterly inventory audits and make store records available for police inspection.

"Gun control is essential to our public safety," Emanuel told reporters. He said the ordinance, which also would prohibit gun sales within 500 feet of schools, was "smart, tough and enforceable." The court order had given the city six months to come up with store policies.

 

Emanuel and the Chicago Police Department released a report on Tuesday showing that almost 60 percent of the guns used to commit a crime in Chicago between 2009 and 2013 had been initially purchased in states like Indiana, Wisconsin and Mississippi which do not require background checks for sales at gun shows or on the Internet.

And with gun control in Chicago, those guns will no longer be purchase in Indiana, Wisconsin and Mississppi?

Because if there is anything that could assure the even more accelerated destruction of Chicago - a city which already boasted an unsurpassed murder rate when it had a gun ban - it would be giving central planners free reign over how to fix Chicago's "gun problem."

 

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Wed, 05/28/2014 - 17:49 | 4803185 FLHRS
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I see someone who wants to be president - Mr. Emanuel, regardless of who appointed the panel.  The pendulum has swung in favor of "the buy the votes" crowd.

Wed, 05/28/2014 - 17:57 | 4803226 Thirtyseven
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Isn't Rahm an Israeli citizen?  Or did he just serve in THEIR military and that was it?

Wed, 05/28/2014 - 20:16 | 4803664 Dull Care
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Doesn't matter. He's Israeli so you can be sure an exception will be made for him because after all the Israelis are our bestest friends forever, the only democracy in the middle east, have similar interests. Because of these obvious indisputable truths he'll be entitled to run the US because that's what the evil powers in Mordor on the Potomoc and Sauron on the Hudson want.

 

Why are Jewish leftists in the US the most insane and evil group of people imaginable?

Wed, 05/28/2014 - 20:53 | 4803784 XitSam
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An exception is made for every elite, and the poor workers are the ones agitating for it.  If the poor were smart, they would be protesting for a maximum wage of $15/hr.  That would bring about the equality they so desperately scream for.  

Thu, 05/29/2014 - 01:36 | 4804532 quartshort
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Those words of wisdom strike accord in this fellow's soul. We should pass a law that your statement be printed on every burger wrapper from now on. Not that I totally agree with it, but you point is so pointed in its plight, it may just wake those screaming for it up.

Isn't a minimum wage job a crappy existence that gets you to improve yourself to escape out of mom's basement anyway? Why the fuck should a burger flipper be paid a "living wage"? These jobs are for youth as a lesson to improve, not so Yolanda can feed her 5 kids and pay da rent.

Thu, 05/29/2014 - 18:03 | 4807589 XitSam
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just for the record, I am opposed to maximum and minimum wage laws

Wed, 05/28/2014 - 17:49 | 4803188 TrustbutVerify
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Doubling down on doing what's wrong.

Wed, 05/28/2014 - 17:55 | 4803206 yogibear
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Chicago is so bankrupt. The city of big BS. Keep raising the taxes.

With it's flash mobs and car jackings. Anyone that moves to that place deserves what they get. 

Wed, 05/28/2014 - 18:56 | 4803418 BeetleBailey
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Agreed. It's Shitcago.

Wed, 05/28/2014 - 19:45 | 4803572 Big Corked Boots
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Chiraq.

Wed, 05/28/2014 - 20:18 | 4803668 RafterManFMJ
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ShitCongo.

Look for this city fronted by Ralphie boy to be the site of the big false flag...why else would he leave the Federal power base and slum it as the mayor of ShitCongo?

Those dual citizens ...

Wed, 05/28/2014 - 21:35 | 4803926 PT
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Eventually they realize they have to have "richer" workers in order to extract more taxes from them.  And higher rents.  See the real drivers behind all this now?

Wed, 05/28/2014 - 17:55 | 4803215 Thirtyseven
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Bullish: Milwaukee

(Also looking good for Green Bay, Saginaw, even Gary)

Wed, 05/28/2014 - 17:58 | 4803229 eucalyptus
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more automation - win win.

Wed, 05/28/2014 - 18:10 | 4803260 Spungo
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Chicago has jobs?

Wed, 05/28/2014 - 18:15 | 4803274 Atomizer
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Chicago will become the next Detroit. Bring on the pain central planning misfits. 

Wed, 05/28/2014 - 18:19 | 4803285 free_lunch
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Wolf explains the failure of capitalism, and how to fix it:  http://youtu.be/umlyCSu0rE4?t=1m52s

Wed, 05/28/2014 - 20:00 | 4803617 BigJim
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Does it all involve giving magical free lunches made by omnibenevolent pixies living in the land of limitless resources?

Wed, 05/28/2014 - 21:38 | 4803934 PT
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Consider the Dodo birds.  As they became rarer, prices increased to the point where it was profitable to start Dodo farms.  And that is why - Oh! Wait! ...

Wed, 05/28/2014 - 18:56 | 4803297 Millivanilli
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Meanwhile CEOs are making record sums for skull fucking labor at every corner.   

 

The individual has no bargaining  leverage against the corporation or banking elite.  I say what is good for the crooks is good for the worker.  

 

Well, we know what they want. They want more for themselves and less for everybody else, but I’ll tell you what they don’t want . . . they don’t want a population of citizens capable of critical thinking. They don’t want well informed, well educated people capable of critical thinking. They’re not interested in that . . . that doesn’t help them. That’s against their interests. That’s right. They don’t want people who are smart enough to sit around a kitchen table and think about how badly they’re getting fucked by a system that threw them overboard 30 fuckin' years ago. They don’t want that. You know what they want? They want obedient workers . . . Obedient workers, people who are just smart enough to run the machines and do the paperwork. And just dumb enough to passively accept all these increasingly shittier jobs with the lower pay, the longer hours, the reduced benefits, the end of overtime and vanishing pension that disappears the minute you go to collect it, and now they’re coming for your Social Security money. They want your fuckin' retirement money. They want it back so they can give it to their criminal friends on Wall Street, and you know something? They’ll get it . . . they’ll get it all from you sooner or later cause they own this fuckin' place. It’s a big club and you ain't in it. You and I are not in The big club. 

 

George Carlin A hero of the Intelligensia

Wed, 05/28/2014 - 20:22 | 4803680 RafterManFMJ
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Who remembers when Bushie wanted to reclassify hundreds of thousands of jobs, nurses among them, as exempt so employers could quit paying overtime?

No sacrifice by the people is too great for the Oligarchs and the Banksters.

Wed, 05/28/2014 - 20:57 | 4803802 skeeterpi
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Do our fearless leaders ever mention what the particular job is worth. We spend our own money wisely. We do not pay $100,000 for a Yugo.

Here comes the automated burger makers, and Ipads for taking the orders. You make your bed, sleep in it.

Wed, 05/28/2014 - 18:24 | 4803301 August
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Free rein, bitchez.  ZH is, after, all the modern world's publication of record.

Wed, 05/28/2014 - 19:44 | 4803319 Sean7k
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The Elites have successfully dumbed down the population so much, they believe you can do things like set arbitrary wage rates. Next will be price controls. 

ANYBODY living in an urban environment better get out while you can. It's the first place the government will try to "save" and your life won't be worth the shell casing used to put you down. Have a family? Want to keep them? These are serious questions. 

The writing is on the wall and if you are too stupid to read it, then, I guess you'll get what you deserve.

Wed, 05/28/2014 - 20:26 | 4803693 RafterManFMJ
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If the minimum wage went to 15 bucks an hour I'd be able to buy a place in the country but the collapse would be that much quicker. Oh! Wretched irony! The cure proposed is the poison ingested.

Wed, 05/28/2014 - 18:42 | 4803344 BoingBoing
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There's so much hatred on here for the very worst off in your society. What did they ever do to deserve an average cost of living which has risen 200% whilst their wages have stagnated? Keeping people in wage slavery just lowers the value of your entire society.

Countries where the worst in society are treated more fairly (Scandinavia, Japan) have much lower crime rates as a whole, because people feel more included.

Try aiming to help those at the very bottom, rather than sucking up to those at the top.

Even your beloved Franklin D. Roosevelt had the following to say in 1938:

“Do not let any calamity-howling executive with an income of $1,000 a day, who has been turning his employees over to the Government relief rolls in order to preserve his company’s undistributed reserves, tell you – using his stockholders’ money to pay the postage for his personal opinions — tell you that a wage of $11.00 a week is going to have a disastrous effect on all American industry.” 

The equivalents today would be an executive class on $190,000/week and an average worker on $2100/week. $2100/week! THAT's what your minimum wage should be if wages rose equally for all social classes over the past 80 years.

Wed, 05/28/2014 - 18:45 | 4803371 AchtungAffen
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You gotta love ZH'ers attacking minimum wage while they're being anally probed through declining wages in real terms. It's like they're back in the plantation, only this time singing: "Hit me moe massa, I's lovin it".

Wed, 05/28/2014 - 20:13 | 4803653 falconflight
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...

Wed, 05/28/2014 - 20:12 | 4803654 falconflight
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How bout 'Massa, leave me the fck alone,' or 'someday I'll have to saw your socialist head the fck off?'

Wed, 05/28/2014 - 23:35 | 4804306 AchtungAffen
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To which massa replies: "No boy, I own your ass. Your socialist ass. And I'll spank it as much as I want just because I can. And you're gonna selloff your fellas because I tell you to. You'll shoot yourself in the foot when I wish you to. And you'll comply, cuz you're just a dumb slave". That's what banks and powerful interests like the Cock brothers or Ruppy M. keep telling y'all. And damn, you IS complying... slaves...

Wed, 05/28/2014 - 20:47 | 4803756 Oldwood
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If all we had to do to make everything right and fair was pass a law, why the fuck didn't they do that a thousand years ago?

Most of us thought we had that in our constitution, but evidently enough have decided that the answer is moar.

Does anyone here, including the most extreme communist, really think that people are suffering low and stagnant wages because of a lack of minimum wage laws?

Don't you fucks ever get tired of selling the same old fucking bandaids? The problem is epic, but the problem is the devaluation of our currency which is completely within the realm of government jurisdiction. Constantly demanding an increase in wages in response is simply foolish on the face of it, especially considering that you are fully supporting those doing the inflating.

Wed, 05/28/2014 - 23:31 | 4804295 AchtungAffen
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Well then mate, let's not pass any more laws. Let's overrule them all. And each to his own. Or should I say, law of the strongest (cuz that's what happens with anomia). Laws are communism? Minimum wage is communism? What the hell is communism then?

Thu, 05/29/2014 - 01:08 | 4804490 EndOfDayExit
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IMHO, the problem is not the minimum wage, and not even currency devaluation. Both of these are policy responses to what the real problem is – saturation and lack of growth opportunities. There are not enough jobs for everyone, yet everyone has to be fed and entertained every day or we will have a revolt. Hence TPTB are doing the best they can _politically_ do to sustain the system for as long as possible. Minimum wage laws are just a politically palatable way of forced confiscation – first from business owner’s profits, next – from their wealthier customers who will be forced to pay more for products and services. Try passing a law requiring everyone to shell out a bit for the .gov to redistribute to the poor – it will not pass. But a min wage hike will pass (because it is only fair, right?), yet it will achieve just that kind of redistribution.

Thu, 05/29/2014 - 01:45 | 4804545 quartshort
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But wait... I was told by posters on ZH that a robot would do my work for me and I can work 1/10th of what I do now, and live like Jamie. Bring on the machines!

/sarc

Wed, 05/28/2014 - 19:36 | 4803542 ceilidh_trail
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There was an article in the local news last year about the mental anguish a 50+ year old woman was experiencing due to having to move out of a public housing apartment that she had literally spent her whole life living in. Five decades in a welfare house! When is enough enough? When does it stop? The US has a permanent class that knows nothing but taking. The ones on welfare are no better.

Wed, 05/28/2014 - 20:07 | 4803639 BigJim
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 What did they ever do to deserve an average cost of living which has risen 200% whilst their wages have stagnated?

They voted -repeatedly, over the course of generations - for the assholes that caused it. They signed up for their stupid wars. They refused to pick up an economics textbook. They sat down and watched TV every night. They refused to learn even the rudiments of dietary lore and became obese, diabetic slobs.

But, least forgivable of all, they never read ZeroHedge.

Wed, 05/28/2014 - 20:09 | 4803643 falconflight
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where's your sarc on/ tag?

Wed, 05/28/2014 - 20:56 | 4803796 Village-idiot
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There are other reasons why Scandinavia and Japan have low crime rates. One of them is the demographics of those countries (I'm trying to be politically correct here) if you get my drift.

Wed, 05/28/2014 - 18:55 | 4803412 orangegeek
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Barry's brown nosing crowd.  Stupid move.  Big surprise.

Wed, 05/28/2014 - 19:03 | 4803439 Sticky Wicket
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Obama said $15, now everybody says $15. It has absolutely no factual basis; just a completely arbitrary number they pulled out of their asses.

Wed, 05/28/2014 - 19:04 | 4803442 Duc888
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Thirtyseven: Isn't Rahm an Israeli citizen?

 

That doesn't matter (anymore) the Bonobo broke new ground.  "Citizenship" is sooooooooo yesterdays nooz....in fact, look at now many people in leadershit positions now are dual citizens.  I think it's a requirement now.

Wed, 05/28/2014 - 19:34 | 4803458 CoastalCowboy
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There was once I time where I worked for minimum wage. I lived with my parents and went to school to develop marketable skills whereupon I began to make vastly more than minimum wage. Hmmm.. How could that happen?

The sad part about this is that even if we were to accede to their demands their station in life would not improve one iota. Anecdotal story here, but every time the minimum wage has been increased I witnessed where the prices of the products minimum wage employers offered immediately were increased.

I recently saw a bunch of protestors(about 30) waving banners saying to honk if you agreed with the $15 dollar an hour minimum wage, and no one was honking.

Yeah, I know minimum wage stinks, but one must do whatever it takes to acquire skills that demand more than minimum wage. It really is that simple. It's called INITIATIVE.

I also recognize that our Obama economy makes it much harder on the < than 0.001%. If you make minimum wage, you're got to work that much harder now that our incompetent lord and savior has ascended to the Presidency.

Wed, 05/28/2014 - 19:39 | 4803551 AdvancingTime
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You are not the only one of us who worked for minimum wage when we were young. I dare to say even at minimum wage many workers are more trouble than they are worth.

After a worker has proved they are worth more they usually get more, often lots more.

Wed, 05/28/2014 - 19:57 | 4803606 CoastalCowboy
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Actually, I did not stay at minimum wage very long as soon as they saw my work ethic the raises came very,very quickly.

I agree that most of these minimum wage sad sacks are being paid more than they're worth. It's all about your attitude. A shitty attitude only hurts yourself, and you reap what you sow.

Wed, 05/28/2014 - 19:19 | 4803480 honestann
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Hey, anything worth doing is worth doing right.  Either eliminate the minimum wage, or raise it to typical financial industry CEO wages (say, $15,000 per hour).

Wed, 05/28/2014 - 19:32 | 4803523 NoDecaf
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This is all hogwash....every one knows the optimal wage from coast to coast, in every market...in every nook and cranny of the indispensible USofA is $19.5478932856 per hour.

Wed, 05/28/2014 - 19:35 | 4803532 AdvancingTime
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While I'm strongly against raising the minimum wage because it will make America less competitive and slow job growth, I concede the debate is destined to continue until it is raised. I hereby state without a doubt, the minimum wage will go up! Polls show a majority of Americans support this idea.

It is my feeling that many people believe the myth this will put more money into the consumers pocket and create economic growth. They fail to recognize it will also spark inflation while reducing opportunity. New twist and wrinkles are being added by the White House and supporters of this increase every week. Expanding the number of workers eligible for overtime pay is another attempt to push this along. Unfortunately much of the impact and pain will directly fall upon small business the real creator of jobs. More on this subject in the article below.

http://brucewilds.blogspot.com/2014/03/the-minimum-wage-will-go-up-right...

Wed, 05/28/2014 - 20:53 | 4803786 Oldwood
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It will always go up because it enables those screwing us to continue the policies that create the inflation to begin with. They can not allow the wages to go up too quickly as they drive higher costs faster than about any other source. If minimums were not set, eventually the markets would take hold and policies would be forced to change. They want to show compassion for our circumstances while they rob us blind.

FREE THE MARKETS

let the corrupt crony business/politicians wither and die

Wed, 05/28/2014 - 19:45 | 4803574 sschu
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Slackers.  $15 min wage is all but a done deal here is Seattle.

Local businessmen are stunned by what is happening.  Along with the ban-the-box and annual mandatory sick leave the city will be openning an "employment regulation" office soon to make sure the rules are followed by everyone.

Some say 40% of the local rest/pubs will close as a result, but the progressives do not care.  If the businesses cannot pay a "living wage" then they have no right to be in business.

Think I am kidding?  Check it out, you will be amazed.  Google it.

sschu

 

 

Wed, 05/28/2014 - 20:12 | 4803650 BigJim
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The more unemployed government legislation creates, the more government 'services' are needed.

The incentives for .gov are pretty obvious.

Wed, 05/28/2014 - 20:55 | 4803799 Oldwood
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its spelled     D.E.P.E.N.D.E.N.C.Y.

Wed, 05/28/2014 - 22:18 | 4804056 Drop out
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Sounds like a great time to start a business. Is there a minimum profits standard one can legaly impose on somebody somewhere?

Wed, 05/28/2014 - 19:51 | 4803587 johngerard
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Fuck it, why not make it $1000 an hour? That's even more fair.

Wed, 05/28/2014 - 20:29 | 4803706 Savyindallas
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$1000 an hour? No-that's a lot more than I make. Make it $200 an hour . I  worked for McDonalds for a summer 30 years ago. I was really good. My youngest son works for McDonald's for $7.75 an hour. He's really good too. For $200 an hour, we'd both flip burgers as a carreer.  We're good at it and we enjoy it. Don't laugh. kevin Spacey in American Beauty found flipping burgers very fulfilling.  

Wed, 05/28/2014 - 20:07 | 4803636 falconflight
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Creative Destruction in practice

Wed, 05/28/2014 - 20:12 | 4803655 gatorengineer
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Everyone here is missing the point.....  very simply put

From each according to his ability, to each according to his need.  

Train is running right on time.  Swell the size of the proletariat Check, Polarize the population Check, Legalize Drugs (Marijuana for now) - Check, Create dependency on the state by destroying savings - check, Legalize Gay Marriage - Check, Ridicule all forms of religion - Check, indoctrinate the youth - Check.....

missing the re-education camps.....  but that should be along any minute now.

 

 

Wed, 05/28/2014 - 20:48 | 4803765 Village-idiot
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The re-education camps are already here; they're called public schools.

A few years of social indoctrination will get them thinking correctly.

Wed, 05/28/2014 - 20:20 | 4803674 Savyindallas
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"And with gun control in Chicago, those guns will no longer be purchase in Indiana, Wisconsin and Mississppi?"

Simple solution  - just pass a law that guns purchased in  Indiana, Wisconsin and Mississppi can't be used to commit crimes in Chicago.

That should sove the problem. Right?

 

Wed, 05/28/2014 - 20:34 | 4803718 Offthebeach
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Isn't there something in the dead Constitution about involuntary servitude? When did we all have to obey, be unwilling and uncompensated serfs/slaves ?

( terrorists think/off )

Wed, 05/28/2014 - 20:37 | 4803725 FredFlintstone
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Wouldn't this put pressure on the price of beer and cigs?

Wed, 05/28/2014 - 22:07 | 4804004 Drop out
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Of course not, nothing to worry about here. ;)

Thu, 05/29/2014 - 03:28 | 4804628 Jam Akin
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Pack of butts runs about $11 in Chicago these days.

Wed, 05/28/2014 - 21:57 | 4803982 Drop out
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They should boost the minimum wage up to $100.00 per hour for three days only - starting next Wednesday (oh yes, and free bus tickets to town from anywhere in the united states including Hawaii). I want to read the news stories from the Monday after that. The same goes for Detroit. Can we get some worker programs in here too? Someone hires, everyone pays.

Wed, 05/28/2014 - 22:00 | 4803983 Drop out
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echo echo echo

Wed, 05/28/2014 - 23:09 | 4804221 Nobody Important
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Go for it Chicago! Lets see how long it takes for you to turn into another Detroit.

Wed, 05/28/2014 - 23:19 | 4804258 dexter_morgan
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DO IT! PLEASE DO IT. Get the bankruptcy over with already. Illinois, what a fucked up state.

Thu, 05/29/2014 - 00:25 | 4804417 RichardParker
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"Study after study demonstrates that when you put money into the pockets of consumers, they spend it," Munoz said. "They don't hoard it in their mattresses when central governments institute hyperinflation."

There, I fixed it.

Sat, 05/31/2014 - 08:52 | 4812294 AFKeeker
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"Emanuel and the Chicago Police Department released a report on Tuesday showing that almost 60 percent of the guns used to commit a crime in Chicago between 2009 and 2013 had been initially purchased in states like Indiana, Wisconsin and Mississippi which do not require background checks for sales at gun shows or on the Internet."

BULLSHIT MOTHERFUCKER.

 

Every purchase done through an FFL dealer, EVERY SINGLE FUCKING ONE, has a background check attached.  It doesn't matter if you sell it at the storefront, the gun show, over the internet, or literally pull the gun out of your ass, if it is on the FFL's books before the sale, it has to have a background check in tow before it can come off the FFL's books.  I really, REALLY wish these morons knew what they were talking about, or, better yet, that they would stop lying, because there's no way he's THAT stupid and uneducated on the matter.

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