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NYPD Prepares To Use Drones As CA License Plate Readers Stir Controversy

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Submitted by Mike Krieger of Liberty Bitzkrieg blog,

One of the many civil liberties related themes I have focused on over the past several years has to do with how emerging technologies can pose a threat, first to our basic 4th Amendment rights, and then ultimately to freedom itself. Two of the most high profile technologies in this regard, and which have extremely high potential for abuse, are license plate readers and drones.

I’m no luddite saying that these technologies should be banned. In fact, I can certainly see reasonable uses for both within a broad range of society. However, I am saying that unless we have an engaged citizenry holding public officials’ feet to the fire, these technologies will certainly be abused and before you know it you’ll find yourself in Room 101 staring down at a ravenous rat army wishing you had said something earlier.

The biggest challenge we face is that the general public has become so dumbed down, distracted and confused when it comes to the most existential issues we face as a society. Rather than focusing on key issues that really matter, the mainstream media largely blows up and obsesses over immaterial, yet emotionally charged events that don’t mean anything in the larger scheme of things.

License plate readers and drones are two great examples of this dilemma. Both have been advancing into our lives in an increasing manner and most people don’t have the slightest clue. How can people have informed opinions on such keys issues when they have no idea what is happening around them.

Let’s start with the license plate scanners. Before reading further, I suggest going back and checking out my post from earlier this year: How the Repo Industry is Collecting Data on Virtually Every Car in America.

Now that you are sufficiently disturbed about the extent to which your privacy is being violated day in and day out, let’s focus on some good news. The fact that there is now a bill in the California state legislature that will attempt to put some boundaries around this technology.

We learn from CBS News that:

If you’ve been behind the wheel lately, odds are your trip has been tracked by small cameras called “automated license plate readers.”


They’re often mounted on law enforcement vehicles and street poles, and used by police to catch criminals. But in California, lawmakers are debating whether this technology needs restrictions to protect privacy.


The high-tech cameras zero in on the license plates of every car that passes, taking upwards of 2,000 images per minute.


The photos are instantly sent to national databases that log each vehicle’s exact location, along with the date and time it was there.


More than 70 percent of the nation’s police departments use this technology to find vehicles associated with crimes.


“They can track you around the country through these databases,” said California State Senator Jerry Hill.


Hill wants to regulate the technology. He’s pushing a new state law (S.B. 893) that would keep license plate cameras off private property, and ban public agencies from sharing their camera data.


“What we’re trying to do with the legislation is create some safeguards so the public’s rights and privacy are secure,” Hill said.


The California Senate will vote on the new law next week.


In the meantime, license plate cameras and the data they collect remain unrestricted.

There’s a fine line between fighting crime and living in a creepy total surveillance state. We need to define that line and do it now.

Now, onto the drone issue. This is another important subject for debate that just hasn’t been getting enough of it. For some context, read:

The FBI Has Been Using Drones Domestically Since 2006

Meet the MQ-4C Triton – A New Navy Drone with the Wingspan of a Boeing 757

The NYPD appears to be seriously looking into deploying drones in the city of my birth. We learn from The New York Daily News that:

Big brother may be watching and listening more closely than ever — as the NYPD considers using drones and other gizmos to fight crime in the city.


Police Commissioner Bill Bratton said the unmanned machines equipped with cameras and tiny microphones could help spy on crime hotspots — like housing projects, where shootings are up about 32% this year.

Guess they forgot to buy their S&P500 calls…

“Myself, I’m supportive of the concept of drones, not only for police but for public safety in general,” Bratton said Tuesday. “It’s something that we actively keep looking at and stay aware of.”


John Miller, the NYPD’s head of intelligence, said cops have been studying flying drones. They’re looking at “what’s on the market, what’s available.”


“You could see an application where a drone could be not only a very effective crime fighting tool but could actually show you where the bad guys are going leaving the scene,” he said.


Bratton sat on the board of ShotSpotter, a company that makes the detectors, before returning to his post as the city’s top cop in January. He said the bidding process hasn’t begun.


Seem as if “what’s available” may just happen to be produced by a company the police chief sat on the board of. How convenient. Sort of like how former head of the Department of Homeland Security (DHS), Michael Chertoff, has a private security company called the Chertoff Group, which stands to make lots of money from fear mongering the public about terrorism. As the Huffington Post reported in 2010:

Chertoff’s clients have prospered in the last two years, largely through lucrative government contracts, and The Chertoff Group’s assistance in navigating the complex federal procurement bureaucracy is in high demand. One example involves the company at the heart of the recent uproar over intrusive airport security procedures – Rapiscan, which makes the so-called body scanners. Back in 2005, Chertoff was promoting the technology and Homeland Security placed the government’s first order, buying five Rapiscan scanners.

As I have said before, the primary driver of U.S. GDP these days is fraud, corruption and theft. It’s up to us to change that.


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Wed, 05/28/2014 - 19:08 | 4803456 nmewn
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Wed, 05/28/2014 - 19:25 | 4803502 Millivanilli
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Funny how all these nifty devices to kill terrst (that we now support and fund. Actually Ronny raygun had the taliban in the wh as freedom fighters. But I digress...)   End up BEING USED TO CONTROL US AT HOME.



Wed, 05/28/2014 - 19:30 | 4803514 nmewn
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I think the problem is, we keep asking them to do shit on our behalf.

Maybe we should re-think that ;-)

Wed, 05/28/2014 - 19:35 | 4803533 CH1
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I think the problem is...

That everyone keeps obeying them, no matter what.

Wed, 05/28/2014 - 19:38 | 4803546 Stackers
Wed, 05/28/2014 - 21:10 | 4803855 markmotive
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Lies were told and war crimes were committed so the shepherds could watch their sheep.

Wed, 05/28/2014 - 19:39 | 4803547 nmewn
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That too.

Thu, 05/29/2014 - 19:20 | 4807827 MeelionDollerBogus
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Yup: the Chain of Obedience is the problem, not the "Chain of command"

Wed, 05/28/2014 - 19:31 | 4803515 Real Estate Geek
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Ahh, a fellow trap/skeet/clays shooter, I surmise.

Wed, 05/28/2014 - 19:40 | 4803552 nmewn
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Naw, just a shooter...turkeys fear son

Wed, 05/28/2014 - 19:59 | 4803615 JLee2027
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License plate readers are illegal under the Constitution. It is a technology that should be used only with a warrant.

Wed, 05/28/2014 - 20:30 | 4803710 cougar_w
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Inaccuracy. But think whatever you want they like it when you are headed the wrong direction.

Wed, 05/28/2014 - 20:55 | 4803793 ljag
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Don't forget to zap that renewal sticker for 2 seconds to make sure it sticks to that old plate of yours

Thu, 05/29/2014 - 00:49 | 4804458 migra
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I know quite a bit about LPRs and a lot of it us not good. But, sadly,  they are not illegal.  Plate readers read license plates,  which are state property,  on public roads. Your license plate has no reasonable expectation of privacy on public roads.

Thu, 05/29/2014 - 08:26 | 4804961 fallout11
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Dirt/mud on your license plate is not a crime. Just saying....

Thu, 05/29/2014 - 19:23 | 4807834 MeelionDollerBogus
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Where I live it is. Anything from dirt, mud, snow, anything covering the plate is a crime & you are responsible to keep it clear.
Refusal to do so will lead to a ticket no differently than if one of your signal lights was broken.

Thu, 05/29/2014 - 19:26 | 4807840 MeelionDollerBogus
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Well ho-lee-sheet. Now you've pointed it out I'm sure they'll snap right to obeying that thar constertooshun.

Thu, 05/29/2014 - 08:09 | 4804911 Took Red Pill
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"Pull" Sounds good but they are also installing gun shot detectors.

Thu, 05/29/2014 - 19:30 | 4807844 MeelionDollerBogus
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How is it for crossbows?

Wed, 05/28/2014 - 19:12 | 4803463 knukles
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Most people I know step by step, little by little, hem and haw about freedom, protecting us from terrorists and conclude that each little bit of new technology is OK, they guess, has some applicability and the very same folks will be fucking clueless when they're on the wrong fucking side of the femah camp barbed wire fences.
And I'll, probably have to listen to them bitch, piss and moan about that, too.

Wed, 05/28/2014 - 19:16 | 4803476 NidStyles
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Well one thing is certain, when we have all been round up and shot, they will have no one to tell them "I told you so".

Wed, 05/28/2014 - 20:31 | 4803712 cougar_w
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It will never be as obvious as that.

Pick a different trigger for your outrage.

Wed, 05/28/2014 - 21:40 | 4803944 NidStyles
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You should quit assuming I am outraged or even serious ;-)

Wed, 05/28/2014 - 22:13 | 4804031 cougar_w
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Around here you can never tell.

Thu, 05/29/2014 - 08:25 | 4804960 Debt-Penitent
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"When you have been rounded up..."

I, will not go so peacefully.

Wed, 05/28/2014 - 19:11 | 4803464 Omegaman2211
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When is this shit all coming to an end?

Wed, 05/28/2014 - 19:15 | 4803472 Skateboarder
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Never. Once it has started, there is no going back.

Wed, 05/28/2014 - 19:18 | 4803485 Omegaman2211
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I was referring more to total societal collapse.

Thu, 05/29/2014 - 02:14 | 4804571 caustixoid
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Roman empire took centuries to collapse, and then kept springing back up...

Wed, 05/28/2014 - 19:31 | 4803518 Big Corked Boots
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"If you want a vision if the future, imagine a boot stamping on a human face - forever." (Orwell, of course.)

Wed, 05/28/2014 - 20:34 | 4803722 cougar_w
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I'm a network engineer, and not even a very talented one. Nearly anyone with my level of skill (and there are millions of us) could bring down their surveillance system in 15 seconds.

So never is hardly the correct answer. It will continue for as long as people who can kill it remain distracted by other things, and then not 15 seconds longer than that.

Wed, 05/28/2014 - 20:55 | 4803791 nmewn
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Wed, 05/28/2014 - 21:22 | 4803895 g speed
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I always figured you guys were out there-- knowing for sure I'll sleep well tonight.

Wed, 05/28/2014 - 21:47 | 4803964 NidStyles
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I always hear people tell me how they can stand up to the US military as well. I know better than to think it will happen even close to how people presume. They have the same knowledge you do and more. If you started from that awareness and stopped thinking it will be that easy for you, things would make more sense for you.


To iterate, when I was in the Army almost 6 years ago now we were capable of landing a 155mm round within 1 meter of you at 20 miles. We could also see through your walls at about 15 miles. Goodluck with your head on confrontation.


Wed, 05/28/2014 - 22:12 | 4804014 cougar_w
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Networking is not the same thing. The Chinese have been ass-raping the US MilNet for years, everyone knows it. Taking a network flat down is even easier than getting into it undectected. Besides, the drone thing is not going to be mil-grade kit. Probably off-the-self bullshit with known exploits. They'll outsource the whole thing and the kids will have the communication protocols hacked by the next day.

I'm not afraid of these fucks. They can play around all they want but once they cross some line someone is going to bring it down and you'll never even hear about it. It will just be gone.


Wed, 05/28/2014 - 22:55 | 4804175 Bill of Rights
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And could you leap small buildings in a single bound? As someone with many skills regarding the workings of network connectivity I am the knowledge and I am the more.

Wed, 05/28/2014 - 23:32 | 4804298 MrPalladium
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"we were capable of landing a 155mm round within 1 meter of you at 20 miles. We could also see through your walls at about 15 miles"

Yes but your paychecks were not three months late and your family back home was not starving due to a zimbabwe style inflation.

Patience may man, patience!

Thu, 05/29/2014 - 08:14 | 4804929 Took Red Pill
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Yes, the key will be to get the military and police to wake up and be on our side.

Thu, 05/29/2014 - 08:28 | 4804965 fallout11
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Yes, but when in history did this ever happen?

Fri, 05/30/2014 - 18:09 | 4811111 MeelionDollerBogus
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Military: when their children were in danger
police: never. They ARE the danger. They enjoy the terrorism of killing your children more than life itself.

Fri, 05/30/2014 - 18:08 | 4811108 MeelionDollerBogus
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#1 change what the walls are made of and then you can't.
#2 obviously resistance in Afghanistan & Iraq shows resistance can work, as it has with covert forces in various South American countries. It doesn't always work but you don't always win.

Fri, 05/30/2014 - 18:07 | 4811105 MeelionDollerBogus
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REALLY? So you could take down the system and NOT get shot for it, before they put another system back up and at GUN POINT for the next set of network engineers?
You don't get 2 chances at this.
The trick is not to "break" the current system. The trick is to ensure once it's down it stays down.

Wed, 05/28/2014 - 19:18 | 4803477 knukles
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When the very last of us is dead.


First they came for the Socialists, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Socialist.

Then they came for the Trade Unionists, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Trade Unionist.

Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Jew.

Then they came for me—
and there was no one left to speak for me. 
         -Martin Miemölle

Thu, 05/29/2014 - 01:48 | 4804513 GoinFawr
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Knuks, in your case wouldn't it be more like:


First they came for the lefties, and I did not speak out,

Because lefty don't golf.

Then they came for the employed lefties, and I did not speak out.

Because they lower the tone at the clubhouse.

Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out.

Because once a Jew shot 2 under, and I was 3 over

Then they came for me,

While I was enjoying a pleasant 18 holes by myself

-Snark Alexy

Wed, 05/28/2014 - 19:18 | 4803488 NoDecaf
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When the lights go out.

Wed, 05/28/2014 - 19:39 | 4803550 CH1
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When is this shit all coming to an end?

When people stop obeying them.

And not until.

Wed, 05/28/2014 - 21:00 | 4803811 Chupacabra-322
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@ Omegaman2211,

It's over when we hang the Criminal Bastards upside down, slice their throats from ear to ear, watch them drown in their own blood while simultaneously setting them on fire.

Wed, 05/28/2014 - 19:11 | 4803466 kliguy38
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relax it will only hurt a little

Wed, 05/28/2014 - 19:17 | 4803481 PT
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Remove the license plates from your car.

Better still, remove license plates from everyone elses cars.

Find out the license plate number of your Congressman, Corzine, Dimon, etc etc etc.  Put that number on your car.


Wed, 05/28/2014 - 19:19 | 4803489 knukles
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National Obammie License Plate Day

Wed, 05/28/2014 - 19:21 | 4803492 nmewn
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Staying with the, skeet shooting theme (yeah, thats it)...

Wed, 05/28/2014 - 19:26 | 4803507 nmewn
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Ok, enough playin around...does anyone know if this stuff actually works?

Wed, 05/28/2014 - 20:19 | 4803671 Pure Evil
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Even if it does work, need to find out if its been made illegal in your jurisdiction.


Just make sure you read the disclaimer at the bottom of the webpage.

"NOTE: In some states it is unlawful to display on any vehicle a registration plate which is obscured in any manner 
which inhibits the proper operation of an automated red light enforcement system"

Coming to a jurisdiction near you.

Wed, 05/28/2014 - 20:27 | 4803698 nmewn
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Good point, yeah I saw it.

But!...if we can save just one, it will have been worth it ;-)

Wed, 05/28/2014 - 23:05 | 4804196 Clever Name
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I'm pretty sure mythbusters debunked all of those. I did just have a thought...what about a mirrored plate frame? Quick! To the patent office! I'll know if any of you steal my idea!


Mental note: Steal his idea

Thu, 05/29/2014 - 08:17 | 4804940 Took Red Pill
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seems like the spray is designed for flash photos like at a toll booth. License plate readers do not use a flash.

Thu, 05/29/2014 - 16:13 | 4807142 Abbie Normal
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Just rented a car in that bastion of freedom (Canada) and the terms included paying for any fines after the fact, like photo radar tickets, red light camera tickets, and now parking tickets from mobile license scanners.  Seems they just drive up and down streets in zones that have permit-only parking, or limited hour parking, and scan all of the plates.  Any that aren't registered for that zone will receive tickets in the mail -- not even a courtesy ticket on the windshield.

Fri, 05/30/2014 - 18:04 | 4811089 MeelionDollerBogus
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Looks legit but it's easy enough to get around: using a different wavelength of light for the flash, then making it illegal (jail time) to even stop the camera from working, by any means.

Wed, 05/28/2014 - 19:29 | 4803513 sessinpo
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PT    Remove the license plates from your car.

Better still, remove license plates from everyone elses cars.

Find out the license plate number of your Congressman, Corzine, Dimon, etc etc etc.  Put that number on your car.


Cute. But giving advise to commit felonies is a bad idea and also another reason for them to put you in chains.

Wed, 05/28/2014 - 19:42 | 4803563 CH1
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giving advise to commit felonies...

We're ALL felons these days.

Wed, 05/28/2014 - 20:39 | 4803730 seek
Wed, 05/28/2014 - 22:33 | 4804099 PT
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Whoops!  Did I say that aloud?  I didn't hear me.  Damn!

"What if I was to call you a bastard?"
"I could charge you with insulting a police officer."
"Well, what if I only think you're a bastard?"
"I can't charge you with what you think.  There's no crime for thinking."
"Good!  Because I think you're a BASTARD!!!" - Billy Cokebottle. 

Wed, 05/28/2014 - 20:36 | 4803723 cougar_w
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For fucks sake everyone --

-- just get off your lard ass and ride a bicycle.

This shit isn't even hard.

Wed, 05/28/2014 - 20:46 | 4803753 RafterManFMJ
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On my 2 week holiday this year I bicycled my family from Western PA to Florida.

Shoulda left the dogs at home though.

Wed, 05/28/2014 - 20:49 | 4803767 cougar_w
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Wed, 05/28/2014 - 22:39 | 4804123 PT
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But I like my veeHicle.

Especially when I have to travel 25 miles to work with two step ladders, 6 drums of cable, two tool boxes, 6 boxes of fixings, a dozen lengths of conduit and duct, half a dozen power tools and an assortment of other equipment....

Thu, 05/29/2014 - 08:30 | 4804971 fallout11
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Plates for bikes are now required in some areas. Coming soon to a jurisdiction near you.

Fri, 05/30/2014 - 18:03 | 4811085 MeelionDollerBogus
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They're required by law where I live. Every bike, no matter what.

Wed, 05/28/2014 - 21:05 | 4803835 Chupacabra-322
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@ PT,

Your actually right. License plates are only for commercial vehicles not regular vehicles "traveling" unmolested.

Its a Criminal racket by the insurance Co. & the States Criminally Drfrauding the public by Consent / Contracting with the Criminals. ( Black's Law Dictionary).

Wed, 05/28/2014 - 19:21 | 4803494 Tinky
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Ah, what nice timing. I'll be selling my car, and out of NY in a matter of weeks.

Wed, 05/28/2014 - 19:24 | 4803499 Atomizer
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Mad magazine, Spy vs Spy. Some of these US drones will drop out of the sky based on software. The others, could be a bad shot in killing a bird during hunting season. Another windows virus will come are way for drones. Porch monkey in chief is being the enabler. 

Wed, 05/28/2014 - 19:30 | 4803503 AdvancingTime
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The invention and implementation of drones in warfare and for surveillance moves civilization and mankind's relationship with machines to a new and level. Society is now just becoming aware of the many ways drones can be misused.

During the next few years mankind will have to deal with the expanding capabilities and frightening possibilities that exist in how these man-made "robot-creatures" can impact the way we live and conduct our lives. I have written several articles about both drones and robots. The article below delves into many of the issues we are facing. Some of the work the military is doing is down right spooky.

Fri, 05/30/2014 - 14:21 | 4810323 MeelionDollerBogus
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Almost no one has properly comprehended how CELL PHONES have removed all their privacy.
They track your every move, every inch, every second, reporting not just 'now' but building profile databases of all your regular stops & routes.
Not only can this be used to frame you for a crime but also to rob you, much less to "stop terr'ism".
People don't get it. They're too stupid, dumbed down land narwhals, or too lazy or drunk/high/self-absorbed to care.

Now show them drones & ask them to comprehend the Matrix.
These people can barely comprehend beyond what color paint should be on their walls inside or outside & give no thought to matters of importance.

Wed, 05/28/2014 - 19:34 | 4803528 kchrisc
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The DC US is, at all levels at war. Look in the mirror to see who they are at war against.

And those local gun and badge thugs are soldiers not peace officers--Local soldiers where you live.

Wed, 05/28/2014 - 19:58 | 4803540 Goldilocks
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American Mind Control in Baghdad

Spooks use technology "proved" on one-million dead Africans

Copyright Joe Vialls, 29 May 2003

           During the late afternoon of 6 April 1994, a hail of cannon shells tore through the fuselage of a commercial airliner flying overhead central Rwanda. Several seconds later the blazing plane exploded on impact with the ground, killing President Habyarimana of Rwanda, President Ntaryamira of Burundi, and most of their senior government officials. In that fatal millisecond of time, the entire political command structure of central Africa was decapitated,  leaving the way open for “Operation Crimson Mist”,  the most obscene terminal mind control experiment ever mounted by the United States of America against a sovereign nation. That “Crimson Mist” has been used again recently on a smaller scale in Iraq, is now beyond doubt.

            As Habyarimana and his colleagues made their death dive, a small group of American men and women lounged around in a large hut at the edge of a discreet gravel airstrip a few miles from the Rwandan capital Kigali, temporary home for their three unmarked C-130 Hercules transport planes. All crewmembers carried forged credentials showing them as  “atmospheric researchers” employed by an authentic civilian American agency, but these were only for emergency identification if one of the aircraft was forced to make an unscheduled landing on unfriendly territory. For all practical security purposes, neither they nor their three large aircraft were even in Africa.

            When news of the presidential crash came in over the VHF radio, one of the Hercules planes was swiftly prepared for take off. The flight engineer checked the attachment of the RATO [Rocket Assisted Takeoff] packs, while the scientists made final adjustments to a large microwave dish mounted on the rear loading ramp of the aircraft. It was this strange and esoteric piece of equipment alone that would directly contribute to the deaths of more than one million African civilians during the hundred days that followed. Though completely silent in operation, the single microwave dish had more killing potential than a whole squadron of AC-130 Spectre gunships armed with fifty Gatling cannons.

            Though officially tagged an “experiment”, none of those present had any doubt that this was merely a cosmetic cover for the gruesome operational work ahead.  Each member had been carefully vetted and then vetted again by US Intelligence to ensure they had the “right stuff”, and were philosophically committed to two objectives. First was the evolving need to control or eliminate political dissent by remote means in the run up to the 21st Century, and second was the need to stem or reverse massive population increases across the world, which threatened to overwhelm existing natural resources, especially water and food. Intrinsically this required a willingness to commit mass murder, and everyone present had passed this critical test with flying colors.

            As the Hercules’ engines started with a roar, American agents in Kigali were working alongside local civil servants and members of the Rwandan security service, ramping up public suspicion about foul play in the presidential air crash. Urged on by corrupt officialdom, Hutu tribesmen started marching on Tutsi tribesmen and threw a few rocks at them. Innocent enough at the outset, although with a few nasty machete cuts here and there. But then the C-130 Hercules made a carefully-calculated pass directly over the advancing Hutu, and they suddenly went berserk.  Eyes glazed, the mood of the Hutu crowd went from simple anger to uncontrollable rage, and within minutes, hundreds of assorted Tutsi body parts were flying through the air.


           What the Hercules crew had just achieved has been an open secret since the late fifties, when researchers accidentally discovered that there is a precise “control” brain wave for literally everything we do, and for everything we feel. The problem back then was that each of these control brain waves [rage, fear, panic, lethargy, vomiting and so on] had to be transmitted with an accuracy taken out to three decimal places, or they simply did not work at all. But as the years rolled by, and with the advent of transistors and microprocessors, the operational application of precise control brain waves became practical reality.

            It is important to note here that the lethal trick repeated hundreds of times by the C-130 Hercules in Rwanda during April – July 1994,  was not “classic mind control” in the ultimate conspiratorial meaning of the term, i.e. where people claim to hear complicated messages inside their heads, or where it is feared that the NSA [or similar] intend to turn everyone into helpless Zombies by implanting electronic chips in their arms or necks. What the C-130 crew were actually engaged in was “electromagnetically augmenting” a preexisting state. Remember that the agents and security service personnel first had to point the Hutu tribesmen in the direction of the Tutsi, induce reasonable anger, and make sure they were appropriately armed. Only then could the C-130 go to work with the precise control brain wave of “rage”, augmenting and thus upgrading crowd behavior from that of angry demonstrators to uncontrollable genocidal maniacs. Although not “classic”, this was and is unquestionably mind control, for the simple reason that external means were being used to force an irresistible change in behavior.

            For those who really want to know how governments or agencies change public behavior on a whim, the explanation is not too complicated, though obtaining details of the classified control brain frequencies is all but impossible. Various academics have actually demonstrated some of these effects quasi-publicly over the years, which provides hard reality for skeptics.

             One of the leading lights in this field is Dr. Elizabeth Rauscher-Bise, who was a nuclear scientist and researcher at Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory, and at Stanford Research Institute, Professor of Physics at John F. Kennedy University of California, research consultant to NASA and the U.S. Navy, and a member of IEEE, APS, AAAS, MAA, ANA, AAMI. Elizabeth Rauscher-Bise identified specific frequency effects to induce nausea, happiness and many other behavioral states decades ago. Clearly, Dr. Rauscher-Bise is an enthusiast: "Give me the money and three months", she boasts, "and I'll be able to affect the behavior of 80 per cent of the people in this town without their knowing it. Make them happy - or at least they'll think they're happy. Or aggressive."

            Unlike many researchers in this field, Elizabeth Rauscher-Bise tends to be open about her work, has demonstrated the effects many times in quasi-public forums, and claims to experiment only on fully informed people. Many years ago during one memorable demonstration in California, she turned a specific brain wave on all students in the left-side of her auditorium, whereupon their teeth started chattering collectively and uncontrollably. When the unaffected students on the right-side of the auditorium suggested this might be some sort of trick, Elizabeth Rauscher-Bise calmly turned  the specific brain wave on them instead. The right-side now suffered exactly the same fate, watched by the stunned but no longer affected students on the left-side.

            The main problem lies in the delivery of the these brain waves to the target, because  they all lie in the extremely low spectrum, between 0.1 and 25 Hertz [Cycles], with all control brain waves in an even narrower central band between 0.6 and 10.2 Hertz. These are effectively the same as “earth” frequencies, meaning that they are very hard to direct via conventional radio transmission. Remember that in order to be effective in selective crowd behavior augmentation, you must be able to restrict delivery to clearly defined crowds in clearly defined areas.  This is achieved by using an extremely high frequency microwave beam, which is then amplitude modulated at exactly the same rate as the desired control brain wave. This is much easier to explain with pictures, so take a good look at the diagram below.


           Microwaves in the 1.0 to 3.0 Gigahertz range travel in perfectly straight lines, like light, making them easy to control in terms of direction, and regardless of power output. In most cases microwaves are transmitted by a dish aerial of the sort you frequently see located low down on a tall television transmitter mast. These are designed to transfer high volume electronic data between the television studio and transmitter, and vice versa.  Where the American “Mind Controllers” score with their airborne and truck mounted equipment is by using microwave aerials that can be adjusted, in exactly the same way as you would adjust the focus on a variable beam flashlight. How this is done is shown in the second diagram below.


           In the Rwandan Hutu tribesmen example shown at the start of this report, the crew of the C-130 Hercules only needed to know the width of the target crowd on the ground, and the width of their own microwave beam at any given true altitude in feet [as read directly from the radar altimeter]. With those two values available, it is then a simple matter to adjust beam width to  accurately bracket the target crowd from any altitude chosen.

            But this equipment is not just deployed in large lumbering Hercules transport planes. During recent weeks, European security experts have concluded that smaller versions of Crimson Mist were recently deployed on the street of Baghdad, designed in part to augment the media propaganda line that  Iraqi citizens are dangerous savages, all badly in need of direct supervision by “democratic” American authorities. One classic example of this was the “looting” of the Baghdad Museum, apparently by a crowd of undisciplined rabble, but video footage tells a very different story.

            To pull off this stunt the American authorities needed to assemble a crowd, managed quite easily with a promise of free food. Then they needed to place the crowd outside the museum, which again was easy because they located the free food outside the museum itself. Next up,  the attention of the crowd had to be drawn to the museum itself, which was achieved in spectacular fashion by firing two 120-mm shells from an Abrams tank gun straight through the main doors.

            Fine so far, but how to get them inside? The video shows two soldiers gesticulating to the crowd, urging them to go in and help themselves, thereby clearly identifying the target “Rwanda-style”.  Then it starts to get really interesting! The two soldiers rapidly withdraw, leaving the Iraqis standing leaderless outside the open doors, and  then CLICK, just like flicking a light switch, the entire crowd goes nuts absolutely simultaneously, which never happens in real life. In the real world there is always a leader visibly stirring up the crowd and preparing them for action, but not outside the Baghdad Museum. One second these folk are dull hungry Iraqis, next second they are instant uncontrollable maniacs streaming in though the museum doors.

            It is also suspected that the same equipment was used to augment the “looting attacks” on various hospitals around central Baghdad, though this claim seems to be based as much on logic as it is on video footage. These so-called “looters” are Iraqi citizens who received essentially free health care in the hospitals under Saddam Hussein. Not only that, but their wives and children are being bombed and shot by Americans, meaning that their free hospitals are absolutely essential to them, and thus the very places they would normally defend in the first instance. Bearing this logic in mind, it seems likely that the European security experts are also correct in this claim.


           While there is unlikely to be very much concern in America,  Britain and Australia for the plight of Iraqis on the streets of Baghdad, it may be time to examine what is likely to happen in our own “democratic” countries if things get more out of control than they are at present. Remember that the 2.2-million-strong demonstration in London just before the illegal invasion of Iraq, had little if anything to do with English folk liking Saddam Hussein.  Iraq was merely an excuse for this unprecedented mass of human beings to migrate to London waving banners that mostly read “Not in Our Name” at corrupt politicians.

            The bottom line is that the next time 2.2 million British citizens descend on the capital to have a go at the politicians [their real targets], they might be carrying something far more dangerous than banners. Every policeman and military man knows very well that a 2.2 million strong mass with hostile intent, simply cannot be stopped by standard riot control techniques, and they cannot be stopped by bullets fired by soldiers on the streets. Even if British soldiers could be persuaded to open fire on their own neighbors [most unlikely],  the entire Army would be powerless to act. So what then?

            Across the Atlantic in America, and in Australia, things are really no better. As I write, the American dollar is heading straight for basement levels, which in turn will lead to a depression and increased anger on the part of all Americans, aimed largely at corrupt politicians on Capitol Hill. Naturally the politicians will try to put the people down as usual, but what if this time it is a step too far. What if a few hundred or few thousand of the 260 million private weapons in American hands are brought into play, what then?

            The chances are that in all affected western countries, politicians and their real masters will try to invoke the use of highly unconventional weapons in order to try and save their own worthless hides.  How successful they might be when that day comes, as it surely will, is largely up to you.



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Wed, 05/28/2014 - 20:52 | 4803783 RafterManFMJ
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That was the longest ZH comment I've yet seen. My rage at having read the entire thing is not being amplified, luckily for the Hutoos around me here at StarBucks.

Thu, 05/29/2014 - 01:08 | 4804435 GoinFawr
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+1 Rafterman


Goldi; well, you had me at:

  The main problem lies in the delivery of the these brain waves to the target, because  they all lie in the extremely low spectrum, between 0.1 and 25 Hertz [Cycles] (sic)

Yeah, 'happy hardcore' beats always got me all riled some'at too

In any case:

"Never trust an engineer with a sense of humor."-Abstruse Goose

... I have yet to meet one without one

Wed, 05/28/2014 - 21:36 | 4803931 DirkDiggler11
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Good post, wish the story had more links fo facts. More digging needed indeed.

Wed, 05/28/2014 - 22:37 | 4804106 cougar_w
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"open secret since the late fifties, when researchers accidentally discovered that there is a precise “control” brain wave for literally everything we do, and for everything we feel."

Nope. Not even close.

The brain doesn't work on any "wave" principle, that whole notion is what you get looking at an electroencephalograph recording of brain activity. The wavy lines on the paper are recordings of electrical signals from a few parts of the surface of the skin on the skull, it's about as representative of actual brain activity as one sentence taken at random from a book represents the entire surrounding multi-chapter story. Meaning, yeah there is a story in the book. That's all you get from an EEG.

The real function of the brain is very much driven by chemical as well as electrical signals. That's why drugs can fool the brain into thinking something is going on when it is not. If the story above had been about the CIA drugging the water and causing riots I'd be interested. This "brain zapper" stuff is literally tinfoil-hat time. They can literally cook you with microwaves and maybe the sudden heat baking your grey matter inside you skull will make you hallucinate for a few minutes before you fall over dead, but that's about it. Even to do that would require the power output of a good sized nuclear reactor, so you can forget about watching it fly over in a C-130. Man who comes up with this shit.

Folks you got a lot worse that brain-zapper microwaves to worry about. For example, most of what you see on TV is propaganda intended to make you think athletes are better people than you, that Disneyland is a God-given right, and you really need to consume 3,000 calories worth of soda before the end of the day. Against that level of in-your-grill mind fuck getting Iraqis lined up for looting the valuables out of the museum is child's play. You can get people to loot a WalMart for brand name sneakers with nothing more than a controversial call during a football game, for Christ's sake. Getting someone to loot valuable antiquities in a part of the world famous for looting its own tombs is a lot easier.

I love you guys, you know I do. But sometimes -- well I worry about you is all.

Wed, 05/28/2014 - 22:44 | 4804144 LongMarch
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Cue the truest song of all time. Heard once, remembered forever.

Thu, 05/29/2014 - 18:45 | 4807735 MeelionDollerBogus
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Indeed. It's sad how many people believe this tin-foil nonsense.
It takes real medical understanding to comprehend that IF you could intervene in a 3D matrix from remote WITH chemicals of EVERY drug ever discovered by man, not just hallucinogens but steroids, solvents, anything, with precise nanometer precision at any 3-dimensional location in the brian FROM REMOTE, then and only then could you induce "control".
And even then the notion is nonsensical as no single human or human-led group ever in history has ever comprehended the actual layout of an actual full neural network & all the neurotransmitters TO EXHIBIT a particular controlled state.
That level of knowledge is beyond the comprehension of the human species & has never been attained, nor will be in the next 1000 years.

Thu, 05/29/2014 - 18:42 | 4807728 MeelionDollerBogus
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This is just ridiculous. Pushing the population up unsustainably is caused deliberately by the world's most powerful overlords.
It is their only true source of reliable of always-available slaves. Desperation means people will do what they are told, to the point of self-injury, and will be replaced by others who will do the same at any resistance.
This can happen only with over-population. The world's resources are controlled by domination, military power, borders, and many can't get past oceans to get to the resources they want so "killing them off" isn't necessary at all.
Will never happen for this reason.
Just fence them in & they'll kill each other. So far they've never been able to overcome such military fencing en masse.

Wed, 05/28/2014 - 19:58 | 4803610 NoWayJose
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I always did think those revolving license plates on the Astin-Martin was a cool idea.

Wed, 05/28/2014 - 20:02 | 4803621 williambanzai7
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Wed, 05/28/2014 - 20:34 | 4803720 Jstanley011
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There's two ways to "fight crime", the New York City Way and the Texas Way.

The New York City Way is for the government to establish a police state. Simple. Effective. Expensive. And kiss Miss Liberty goodbye.

The Texas Way is for citizens to go armed, who may use deadly force to stop ANY violent felony during daylight hours, and to stop ANY felony from dusk to dawn. Simple. Effective. Cheap. And Kiss Miss Liberty all you like.

Me, personally, I like the Texas Way... :D

Wed, 05/28/2014 - 20:46 | 4803757 cougar_w
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Meh. Drones are too complicated for their simple little minds, folks. They might get a pilot program off the ground but as soon as they hand it over to their local thugs it's going to fall over. Besides if the Iranians can hax the OS on these bots, you think a highschool kid with internet access wouldn't totally pwn their candy asses first chance? Stay tuned for the embarrassment when these bots are flying into 14th floor windows on Wall Street.

The license plate thing is nearly as dumb. They can already track you better just from your cell phone records, who needs fag license plate reading? It's a way to spend money on something that sounds sexy and looks like you are all over crime and bullshit, nothing more. They'll spend $50B on it, it will go tits-up on a database screw-up, and that will be the last you hear about this shit.

Thu, 05/29/2014 - 18:12 | 4807619 MeelionDollerBogus
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Don't be redickeruss! Once the drones are 'hacked' and crashing it will be the ter'rists and all NYC can be locked down. Forever.
FEMA camp NYC open for bzniss.

Wed, 05/28/2014 - 20:56 | 4803801 Atomizer
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When the wind mill farms get a terrorist flag in Palm Springs CA area You know Washington DC is fucked beyond belief. Carry on the fear Obama. Does the new ACA website hack into the VA health care site to build ponzi scheme model?

Wed, 05/28/2014 - 21:08 | 4803843 Atomizer
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STFU Atomizer, nope. You will get caught in your own web of lies. 

Wed, 05/28/2014 - 21:08 | 4803846 Vidar
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License plate readers are only a problem because we have license plates. A free country would not be able to force you to put a government ID tag on your car, at your own expense no less. License plates. driver's license, all other forms of government ID need to go. There is no place for anything like that in a free society. Who I am or who you are is no one's business but the people involved. If a private business wants to ID you in order to make a business decision (such as to offer credit, etc) it can maintain its own database at its own expense, and every individual can choose if they want to be a part of it.

Wed, 05/28/2014 - 21:47 | 4803958 Drop out
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If one works for the government (or us.. lol), they should need a license plate and a GPS anklet so we can track them with the drones, cameras, RFID, etc... We track snowplow drivers here in MA using GPS to make sure the drivers aren't sitting at Dunkin Donuts all night. BTW, why no Ebola updates in here yet? Starting to seem a bit blacked out. I did read stories of it making it's way into Italy a few weeks ago (no reliable sources and I don't belive it was true though I do not know) - my real point here is that the "reports" were labeled as racist anti immigration stories and were quickly dismissed. Well, now the reports are showing the Ebola spreading and breaking out. Looking for some truth here.

Thu, 05/29/2014 - 17:38 | 4807516 MeelionDollerBogus
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This is all I could find.
Funny how the 'news' can be 'recalled'. No such action should be possible and yet that's "normal" now.
I found a link from VICE but it's so dripping with inaccuracy & bias I refuse to re-link it. They actually "stress" that Ebola is "hard to catch"
The fuck it is. Liars.

Wed, 05/28/2014 - 21:47 | 4803959 Drop out
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Wed, 05/28/2014 - 22:31 | 4803980 Atomizer
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This shit happened in Media OH. They just goto any strip mall location. Ohio is fucked up. Glad to have gone south in multiple states. We will sell the four rental propeties in Ohio. State and property dissolve. Fuck off Ohio, everything has been transferred to the other states. Smoking in restaurants, lower gas prices and buying food at the ocean side dock is great. You can chase data collection. When people tap the home door of Ohio police officials. They will digress.  


Edit: MyZ10 just took a all day battery runout. Correction, Medina OH from above. Often sit out in paradise. Then flip to another computer.  

Wed, 05/28/2014 - 22:16 | 4804043 cougar_w
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Good points.

Wed, 05/28/2014 - 21:56 | 4803978 americanspirit
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If you have any doubts about the legitimacy of the federal and local police who are conducting these criminal violations of the constitution may I suggest you sit back, grab a cold one, and be prepared for a challenging but rewarding read

Thank you Jesse - you are the best!


Thu, 05/29/2014 - 00:11 | 4804384 yogibear
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People need to take these drones down. They'll get the message.  

It's crossing the line. 

Thu, 05/29/2014 - 00:37 | 4804445 allgoodmen
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Best thing to do is to register your vehicle Commercial, or to a corporation.

The worse threat in CA at least, is the idea to install mileage trackers and tax vehicle travel by the mile (and likely record your every move). It seems too many people drive electric vehicles and stiff the state on gas taxes.

Thu, 05/29/2014 - 06:46 | 4804760 ThisIsBob
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Where are all the "gun nuts" and how come they are not shooting out those cameras?   WTF!

Thu, 05/29/2014 - 08:33 | 4804978 fallout11
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Ammo is expensive now.

Thu, 05/29/2014 - 16:34 | 4807236 MeelionDollerBogus
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NYPD: nearly your public deathsquad

Albequerque PD: already done

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