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The Bilderberg Agenda - Nukes, Nationalism, & Barack Obama

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The officially released agenda of the prestigious Bilderberg club meeting (attendees listed here) is not true, claims Russia Today show host Daniel Estulin, a longtime watcher of the ‘secret world govt’ group. He says he obtained the real agenda for this year’s gathering in Copenhagen. An insider leaked the list of talking points for the ongoing Bilderberg conference to the investigative journalist last week, he said. The list has nine items, seven of which he shared... from Nuclear diplomacy and the disturbing rise of Nationalism; it was a focus on Barack Obama's foreign policy that drew our attention most closely...

 

The Bilderberg Group is a six-decades-old club for some of the world’s most influential individuals, politicians, officials, businessmen, academics and European royalty, regularly gathering to discuss global policy issues. Critics accuse them of acting as a shadow unelected government, would-be rulers of the world, which take decisions affecting billions of people behind closed doors, with little regard for the needs or wishes of the general population.

In an apparent bid to dissipate these accusations, this time Bilderberg made its official agenda public. Among the 12 topics for this year’s conference were “the new architecture of the Middle East,” “Ukraine” and “The future of democracy and the middle class trap.”

However, the leaked 'real' agenda is as follows...

The Bilderberg Agenda... (7 of 9 topics)

1. Nuclear diplomacy and the deal with Iran currently in the making.

The club has long been cautious of a possible alliance between Russia, China and Iran. The deal that would lift Western pressure from the Islamic Republic over its nuclear program would affect this possibility.

2. Gas deal between Russia and China.

It came amid a serious political crisis in Ukraine, which threatens Russia’s supply of natural gas to European nations. Moscow has diversified its gas trade by sealing a long-term contract with Beijing. Potentially, China may replace the EU as the prime energy trade partner for Russia, a situation which strengthens Moscow’s position in Ukraine by undermining Washington’s effort to isolate Russia and Kiev’s leverage through its control of transit gas pipelines.

3. Rise of nationalist moods in Europe.

The agenda was formed before the latest European Parliament elections, which cast a spotlight on the trend. Populist eurosceptic parties are winning the hearts of Europeans from the UK to Greece to Hungary, dealing a blow to the union’s unity. A nationally driven and divided Europe would be reluctant to take globalization for granted.

4. EU internet privacy regulations.

Edward Snowden’s exposure of the scale of electronic surveillance on the part of the US National Security Agency and its allies worldwide sparked a major protest from privacy-seeking people. European politicians can’t ignore the calls to protect people’s communication from snooping, which potentially makes data collection more difficult. At least not immediately, as indicated by the apparent scaling down of Germany’s investigation into the NSA’s alleged surveillance.

5. Cyberwarfare and its potential effect on internet freedoms.

The destructive potential of cyber attacks is growing rapidly as reliance on the internet in all aspects of life rises. But the threat of state-sponsored hacker attacks is what some governments may use as a pretext for clamping down on the internet, undermining its role as a medium for the sake of security.

6. From Ukraine to Syria, Barack Obama’s foreign policy.

Critics of the US president blame him for betraying America’s leadership overseas, citing failures to defend American interests in Syria and lately in Ukraine. Obama’s newly announced doctrine calls on scaling down reliance on military force and using diplomacy and collective action instead. Bilderberg members will discuss whether this policy is doomed.

7. Climate change.

This is a regular topic for many high-ranking discussions, not only the Bilderberg conference in Denmark. People suspicious of the elites call climate change a euphemism for the artificial deindustrialization of some nations, with the goal of keeping the global economy under the control of transnational corporations and the expense of potential hubs of economic growth.

 

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Sun, 06/01/2014 - 14:21 | 4814679 thamnosma
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What oligarchy?

Sun, 06/01/2014 - 16:23 | 4814994 Anusocracy
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A misspelling of oilgarchy?

Sun, 06/01/2014 - 14:30 | 4814696 Amish Hacker
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A nationally driven and divided Europe would be reluctant to take globalization for granted.

So let's keep Europe unified so that the muppets WILL take globalization for granted. Nice agenda.

Sun, 06/01/2014 - 14:54 | 4814708 Winston Churchill
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Once the nationalism genie is out of the bottle it doesn't generally go back in without

a war.

Sun, 06/01/2014 - 14:33 | 4814704 Jack Burton
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"Never let a good crisis go to waste."  In reference to Climate Change, I don't dispute that the global elites are using and will use the rapidly changing climate as an excuse to futher the power grab by the tiny fraction of 1% who rule the world through various governments, corporations and universities. While having major differences, the world's elite do agree that they should rule, should hold all power and should use every crisis to destroy democracy and freedom. Bilderbergs are just one public face, and not by any means the private face of world power.

Climate Change, Global Warming, CO2 accumulation and Methane accumulation in the atmosphere. These issues tend to blow up instantly into a free for all on ZH. But Bilderbergs do consider Global Climate change due to fossil fuel burning as one of their top issues. They have access to all the science and all the tracking measurements, they have access to the math probabilities of how and how fast the global warming begins to have major world effects. Those equations produce the answer, "Today". That is, weather patterns are driven in part by global warming as of today. This is accelerating at a much faster rate than the IPCC report states. The facts have outpaced science and the conservative nature of the IPCC forces them to undervalue the changes.

Since most of you believe the hoax theory of global warming, and I believe the science version, I am not going to debate it, or read the attacks on my personal right to my opinions based on facts.

Lets agree though, the global warming crisis is going to be used by the elites as a weapon to trash the last bit of human freedom and rights. These elites know the truth of climate change, and they are going to use the crisis to service their power grabs. So, as average people, we are screwed in two ways. Climate Change is going to trash our lives, it has already started in many places. AND, more importantly to the average ZH reader, the world elites are going to use climate change as a crisis that requires them to assume all power to control populations and nations. The evil elites see the crisis, and are planning to use it to the full for their ends. More wealth transfer, more war, more spying, less freedom and the destruction of more nations and peoples.

Sun, 06/01/2014 - 14:49 | 4814739 Winston Churchill
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The global warming debate has been discredited by proven number fudging.

Much of it even passed peer review.Not sure even Bilders have real figures.

The two predominant themes of the last three centuries have been nationalism and

collectivism.Nothing has changed except the labels.Collectivism has now been called globalism.

Nationalism has always prevailed before, but the collectivists keep trying.

As a history buff is fascinating to watch in real time, as a a human its scary as hell.

Sun, 06/01/2014 - 15:09 | 4814794 macholatte
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The whole climate change/global warming thing is bullshit. There are ony 2 things about the science that is settled: the climate scientists are liars and nobody has done anything about that.

 

Sun, 06/01/2014 - 15:36 | 4814860 Winston Churchill
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I think they were promoted,and given a stern warning before transfer to the BLS.

Sun, 06/01/2014 - 15:38 | 4814866 tony wilson
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you folks are insane

we need to use the military to section trouble makers and non beliefers.

we needs to protect the children from lunatics and deniers.

next you will be saying spielbergs schindlers list never happened.

you will find many articles that state deniers are ill

http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/03/12/climate-change-deniers-are-flat-ea...

 

 

the very notion that human beings have weather weapons is crazy and a sectionable offence

if we could change the weather then we would not have global warming.

haarps are not tesla machines but for making relaxing tavistock musac.

we have always had zig zag trails in the sky

i bet you do not like the beatles yeah yeah yeah

 

http://www.scribd.com/doc/3436120/UN-1976-Weather-Weapon-Treaty

Sun, 06/01/2014 - 17:18 | 4815105 Aaaarghh
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fuck man, lay off the weed...

Sun, 06/01/2014 - 17:56 | 4815198 tony wilson
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no weed in me you zionist fuckwit.

weather weapons and edwyne rothschild

what ya think brokeback cowboy

Sun, 06/01/2014 - 19:46 | 4815420 Aaaarghh
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lol, race and geographical location way off..as to weather weapons ...meh,  and to the rothschilds and their ilk...lets hope someone immolates those fuckers. Don't get too upset about that tho pogue.

Mon, 06/02/2014 - 01:52 | 4816075 chrissjg
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Aaaarghh, you don't want to believe? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X3lW-TGGlk0

How about now?

Mon, 06/02/2014 - 01:51 | 4816076 chrissjg
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Aaaarghh, you don't want to believe? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X3lW-TGGlk0

How about now?

Sun, 06/01/2014 - 17:13 | 4815095 jefferson32
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Nationalism is a collectivsm.

Sun, 06/01/2014 - 19:24 | 4815364 logicalman
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To say that GW isn't happening really, because it's being used politically and financially against most of humanity misses the point.

Humans have NOT fucked up how many parts of the planet?

Why would climate be exempt.

Climate change has been happening since the earth formed.

Not preparing for it is just whistling past the graveyard (or maybe just dumb)

TPTB will use any opportunity to further their agenda(s) whether true or false.

 

 

Sun, 06/01/2014 - 14:55 | 4814751 Tjeff1
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I would like to know what has convinced you to believe the computer models and predictions.  I have spent years reviewing the data and predictions and it appears far from "settled".

Sun, 06/01/2014 - 17:04 | 4815064 ZerOhead
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Actually the predictions of thermageddon are all settled... it's just getting the climate to follow the predictions that is currently experiencing a little setback.

http://www.c3headlines.com/2013/06/documented-billion-dollar-climate-mod...

Nothing 20 more years of waitng and tens of billions in research grants and data adjustments can't solve however...

“THE UN’s climate change chief, Rajendra Pachauri, has acknowledged a 17-year pause in global temperature rises, confirmed recently by Britain’s Met Office, but said it would need to last “30 to 40 years at least” to break the long-term global warming trend.”

http://canadianawareness.org/2013/02/ipcc-head-rajendra-pachauri-acknowl...

Sun, 06/01/2014 - 18:20 | 4815257 nmewn
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When they can make accurate one week forecasts consistently for Florida I might listen to them on global forecasts going out hundreds of years.

Clearly this calls for billions moar to be wasted for better models! ;-)

 

Sun, 06/01/2014 - 17:19 | 4815110 samsara
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I think it has been resolved for a while. It strongly correlates to Sun Spot Cycles. Amount of energy we get from the sun.

http://www.eh-resources.org/timeline/timeline_lia.html

Sun, 06/01/2014 - 15:01 | 4814774 PrintemDano
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The Bilderbergs do indeed have access to all the facts regarding AGW.  They use the known fraudulent made up facts to figure out how to maximize their illicit profit.  Leaving us plebes to pay the bill.  Don't be a plebe.

Sun, 06/01/2014 - 15:09 | 4814791 angel_of_joy
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The problem of the world nowaday is that, China & Russia notwithstanding, the elites in charge almost everywhere are a bunch of inbred morons. This is the result of a switch in values caused by a generational change (the b-boomers have totally disfunctional values system, their heirs even less) doubled by a catastrophic educational system.

There is no better proof than the last 3 American presidents (quality got progresivelly worse from Clinton to Bush and finally Obozo) and the so called "major themes" of our times: gay righth & global warming. 

This situation will end in chaos and maybe war (which the Westerners will lose in a rather humiliating fashion) as incompetence will trump everything else. From this, a new order will be established, but not before the full glass of misery & sorrow will be fully digested... 

Sun, 06/01/2014 - 15:11 | 4814800 Tjeff1
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Angel of Joy, you talk of chaos, war, misery, & sorrow.  You need to change your name 

Sun, 06/01/2014 - 15:16 | 4814812 angel_of_joy
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There is joy in seeing natural selection at work...

Sun, 06/01/2014 - 21:19 | 4815631 new game
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ha, think is all fucking bs, and there aint a god damn thing you can do about it(CLIMATE)...

wish/think/realize(if you can).

Sun, 06/01/2014 - 17:13 | 4815094 samsara
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Great post as usual Jack.
This a point most people consider more;

"They have access to all the science and all the tracking measurements, they have access to the math probabilities of how and how fast the global warming begins to have major world effects."

All the foundations, and all the think tanks exist first and foremost, Do Research, conduct studies, conduct test, etc.

Here's a list in US
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_think_tanks_in_the_United_States

Let's say 20 years ago one of them projected that the western half would go into a long drought. That this cycle has been going on for thousands of years. Among other planetary changes.

How would you use this info if you were a BBerger?

You could call it "global warming" if you wanted to market what you know...

If you have the raw input info(Output of think tanks), All all cross referenced, you can come up with all kinds of findings. And use that info to mold directions when possible.

Sun, 06/01/2014 - 19:27 | 4815374 joego1
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Regardless if climate change fact or fiction humans are too greedy to change course right now anyway so I guess it's plan for the worst and hope for the best. It's been my way of life for the last several years. All I know as a humble human on this planet is that mother nature seems to be pitching some nasty curve balls lately.

Sun, 06/01/2014 - 14:34 | 4814706 turicum
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This list is so plausible that it must be made up by this Daniel guy.

Sun, 06/01/2014 - 23:21 | 4815890 StychoKiller
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Ya gotta wonder:  What are the two MISSING talking points?

Sun, 06/01/2014 - 14:34 | 4814707 kchrisc
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Only two kinds of people in the world: Builders and Bilders

Builders build what the Bilders steal and destroy.

 

"I'm a Builder of guillotines."

 

Sun, 06/01/2014 - 15:48 | 4814894 tony wilson
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talkin of guillotines

globalism is so bad dat even ares head removers are made in taiwan now.

godamit these new fema camp guilteens will last 6 weeks tops befores the navy seals have to replace the tin blades.

the old english and usa made ones had channels for der blood and mucoid distemper.

der chink ones you have to slop up by hand yuck

Sun, 06/01/2014 - 18:25 | 4815266 kchrisc
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Not my guillotine. It is built and operated by an American.

It likes to eat pol, crat and bankster.

Sun, 06/01/2014 - 14:37 | 4814712 q99x2
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Sounds like they are listeners of the Alex Jones show.

Sun, 06/01/2014 - 14:40 | 4814722 Skateboarder
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Well, the producers do gotta listen to the show to know that it's playing right.

Sun, 06/01/2014 - 16:01 | 4814931 goldhedge
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A lot of his conspiracies are probably hog wash but...

Alex Jones was going on about the US Gov/SS mass spying years and years ago.  He has been proved right.

He was exposing Bilderberg when the main stream media claimed it didn't exist.

etc.

 

Sun, 06/01/2014 - 17:58 | 4815201 tony wilson
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sounds like you is a jewish

Sun, 06/01/2014 - 14:41 | 4814726 Joe Tierney
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Bilge-er-Berg (slime, with most of the swil hidden below the surface, like an iceberg)

 

I tend to give a lot of credence to the Russian disclosure of the real agenda. It would establish that the Western elites are very worried about developments along the lines of the accelerating rise of Russia-China-Iran in the East (and though not specifically mentioned, India is important to that axis as well), and the simultaneous accelerating collapse of the influence of the West on the global stage.

 

I think the tectonic plate shifts are already past the tipping point toward a new global order in which the West is being displaced by the East as far as the driver's seat is concerned. And though this shift has been underway since at least 9/11, B' Crack O' Bag Balma is probably the perfect 'Gorbachev' to preside over it.

 

It's 1989-1991 for the West.

Sun, 06/01/2014 - 16:43 | 4815037 Atticus Finch
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I've wondered that after the NWO boys destroy the US, just which military is then going to protect those assholes.

Sun, 06/01/2014 - 19:36 | 4815396 Grimnir
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The same one that is stupid enough to protect them now.

Sun, 06/01/2014 - 14:46 | 4814738 Atomizer
Sun, 06/01/2014 - 14:51 | 4814747 BIHM
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What are the other two issues?  Christ even the whistler blowers are fucking info whores.  Give it up Danny boy.

Sun, 06/01/2014 - 14:56 | 4814763 Winston Churchill
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8) who has the best coke here.

9) Vote for the best hooker at the hotel.

Sun, 06/01/2014 - 15:05 | 4814776 PrintemDano
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10] Who gets first licks at Becky Quick.

Sun, 06/01/2014 - 14:53 | 4814750 NYPoke
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These dorks got Obama elected in the first place.  They should stop bitching.

Sun, 06/01/2014 - 14:55 | 4814754 fiddy pence haf...
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at Number 8- the bearded chick on Eurovision

at Number 9- Zerohedge and its leaks

Sun, 06/01/2014 - 14:56 | 4814756 discopimp
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I just intrested in what on the lunch and dinner menu, I guess my sheepeople tendiences are just to strong to ignor...bhhaaaa, bhhhaaa

Sun, 06/01/2014 - 14:56 | 4814761 Atomizer
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It really doesn’t get any better than this. Winks

 

Wine Country Conference II Videos: Stephanie Pomboy "Confessions of Ben Bernanke", Mebane Faber "Global Stock Valuations"

http://advisorperspectives.com/dshort/guest/Shedlock-140531-Wine-Country-Videos.php

Sun, 06/01/2014 - 15:00 | 4814765 Racer
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Notice it is called 'climate change' not 'global warming' any more.

That way any 'change' can be caused by whatever they want to allude to, whether it is too hot or too cold!

And yet another tax imposed as a result

Sun, 06/01/2014 - 16:39 | 4815027 therearetoomany...
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Actually the latest is 'climate chaos'.   Seriously.

http://www.stopclimatechaos.ie/

Sounds like something Maxwell Smart would be fighting.   And about as real as Maxwell Smart....

Mon, 06/02/2014 - 18:02 | 4818192 MEAN BUSINESS
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Notice that 25 years ago when James Burke hosted 'After The WARMING' , 90 seconds into the documentary he refers to "climate change".

If you watch the whole thing you'll also see that there was a lack of consensus on the computer modeling, endless reports and conferences, and much grumbling about the 6% carbon tax. That tax has not been levied internationally so there goes 6% X 25years X total CO2e. One wonders how the omnipotent ones let that kinda coin slip through their fingers. Why didn't 'they' put Gore into the WH and get that tax thing going?

You should pick up the pace Racer if you're going to comment on AR5 WG4 due 31OCT14 and get ready for COP21 Paris. Tick Tick Tick.

Sun, 06/01/2014 - 14:59 | 4814768 telefunken
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Anything about the Mcrib? Are the Cubs still banned from winning the world series?

Sun, 06/01/2014 - 14:59 | 4814769 Latitude25
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8.  Precious metals manipulation

9.  Spying and manipulation of the world's population

Sun, 06/01/2014 - 15:03 | 4814777 BigInJapan
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Can we at least agree on one thing:

"WORST president ever"?

Sun, 06/01/2014 - 15:10 | 4814795 in4mayshun
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Worst yet....

Wait til Hillary gets elected.

Sun, 06/01/2014 - 16:39 | 4815029 Atticus Finch
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OR Jeb Bush

Sun, 06/01/2014 - 20:09 | 4815461 mendolover
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I'll go with Bush.  I'm not voting for him.  I just hear the former usurper of the First Ladie's Office is too sick to run for anything and will be keeping all of the idiot's donations to her campaign for herself.

Sun, 06/01/2014 - 15:10 | 4814796 inky
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Meh thats just the Oligarchs shopping list.

Sun, 06/01/2014 - 15:16 | 4814813 max2205
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Altars  Blood.  Virgins.  Knives. Weird Costumes.

 

That's all you need to know.

Sun, 06/01/2014 - 15:18 | 4814818 Moe Howard
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Agenda? Fuck you serfs and plebes over and get all the good shit for themselves.

Same agenda they have always had.

Sun, 06/01/2014 - 15:24 | 4814824 tony wilson
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whats the beef you guys

you are

you are meat food

lowly goy

you eat each other in bilderberg fast food and drinks

an edible dumb battery

an input

an output

positive negative

in the saturn run game show.

 

Sun, 06/01/2014 - 16:28 | 4815005 Atticus Finch
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I've read many of your comments and all I can say is, "Say what son?"

Sun, 06/01/2014 - 18:01 | 4815211 tony wilson
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eat your burger and drink your fracked water is alls im sayin cowboy

Mon, 06/02/2014 - 01:14 | 4816044 Karl Danneskjold
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You have to say it in a Foghorn Leghorn voice...

Sun, 06/01/2014 - 15:27 | 4814836 orangegeek
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They missed one.   Right after Climate Change comes Breeding Unicorns.

Sun, 06/01/2014 - 15:37 | 4814865 Skully
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These kind of leaks regarding content and talking points are just a "marker" of where we are in the timeline of synchronisity. The sync of what the sheeple know and what they are keeping in the dark. We are very close to the point of synchronisity where the elites just "come out with it". That point will also coincide with the truth of "there" plans for a one world gov't, one world religion, one world currency, etc... It is high time to wake up sheeple and declare who and what you trust in. Very soon that choice WILL in fact be made for you.

Sun, 06/01/2014 - 15:51 | 4814905 Atomizer
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We love our US country. Pink slime is your next ECB bubble. Go Fuck yourself!

Sun, 06/01/2014 - 16:12 | 4814966 stacking12321
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you first.

fuck the us and every other country.

there's no such thing as countries, they are mass hallucinations.

people are real, rocks and trees and rivers and mountains are real. but not countries.

countries are a made-up thing in peoples' heads, where some people get together and draw some lines in the dirt and say "this is our country, all you other people can't come inside these lines". it's not a real thing.

people get all teary-eyed and wave their flags and make excuses for the atrocities and crimes committed by their governments, and send their children off to die in wars in some godforsaken lands, all in the name of "country", which doesn't even exist.

fuck. people are idiots and assholes, and deserve their sorry fates.

Sun, 06/01/2014 - 16:34 | 4815014 Atomizer
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I love dragging a central planner to the Zerohedge woodpile nest. Blows a kiss.

Sun, 06/01/2014 - 16:35 | 4815015 therearetoomany...
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You, sir or madam, are the idiot.

The US is, was anyway :-( not the same as all others.   It was because of it's founding under a covenant with God - focused on the true principles of liberty and freedom - and a true understanding of human nature (for instance, a human's desire to become tyranical  aka evil) that led to ALL the greatness in the world.   We overcame fucks like Stalin, Mao, Hitler to bring prosperity and somewhat humane living conditions in shitholes on all corners of the planet.  

Just because the concept of God, and the Constitution itself have been destroyed by fucks like Bush, Obama, Rove, Cheney does NOT remove all the greatness and liberty the country brought to BILLIONS of people.   Just because now we have a bunch of sociopathic fucks in the white house, congress and a whole citizenry of rubes and morons does not mean our system was bad.   It is the left that has brought all this corruption to the country.    Not the God fearing hard working honest people who believed in the country and our system. 

Best you move on from here and forget all those 'high minded' ideas learnt in college.  

 

Sun, 06/01/2014 - 17:03 | 4815074 yt75
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lol, you're a funny guy :) , the US has been a vulgar muderous plebeian herd of puritan swine punks from the very beginning

(ok some exceptions)

Sun, 06/01/2014 - 17:08 | 4815085 NidStyles
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Those ideas are the very reason that millions of natives were slaughtered as "barbaric heathens". They are the same reason the assholes in the Fed obtained their position to allow the pricks in DC that believe in those ideas to have free reign over everything, including your own enslavement. 

 

Don't you think it's time to stop screwing yourself by giving those assholes the power by believing in things and ideas that are not actually real?

Sun, 06/01/2014 - 17:23 | 4815121 stacking12321
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"You, sir or madam, are the idiot.

The US is, was anyway :-( not the same as all others.   It was because of it's founding under a covenant with God - focused on the true principles of liberty and freedom"

nay! with all due respect, i suggest that it is you, sir, who are the idiot.

there is no "convenant with God", and cannot be, where there is liberty and freedom; please keep religious nonsense clear of the issue, and refer to the 1st amendment.

there is no requirement of country, in order for one man to treat another with respect, and honesty, and dignity. all qualitites which you consider good, or virtuous, do not come from this made-up phantasm which you call "country", they come from people - ordinary people such as you and i.

i suggest that you not throw in your lot with the madmen that you consider to lead this "country" of yours and bring the world to the brink of disaster. there are enough countries, enough wars of aggression, enough wealth redistribution schemes. throw off your yoke of bondage and be free!

 

 

Sun, 06/01/2014 - 19:44 | 4815417 Kelley
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Actually, the other guy was right. You're an idiot...a sophomoric one.

Sun, 06/01/2014 - 18:22 | 4815259 Things that go bump
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You lost me at Covenant with God. As far as I know, the only people God ever offered a covenant to were the Hebrews. The covenant you are claiming is one-sided unless God signed the Declaration of Independence or spoke to the founders from a burning bush.

Sun, 06/01/2014 - 21:19 | 4815632 Grimnir
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"We overcame fucks like Stalin, Mao, Hitler to bring prosperity and somewhat humane living conditions in shitholes on all corners of the planet"

Hahaha! "Overcame" them? Maybe, but only after setting them up.

Who financed and supported the Bolshevik revolution that created the Soviet Union? Yeah, that was America: http://tinyurl.com/5tlpa4b
Then America allied with him. He passed away relatively peacefully at the age of 74 from illness with all of eastern Europe still under his rule.

Mao? Yeah, the CIA doesn't even lie about the fact that they supported him and the Chinese communists. His links to the US are pretty well documented: http://tinyurl.com/q3mc2mr. But it was worth it to fight those Imperialist Japanese, wasn't it? He only ended up killing about 3 times as many people.

And our old pal Hitler. Oops...America was largely responsible for him too: http://tinyurl.com/ou9csqh. In the end, it was the equally monstrous Stalin who was more responsible for taking him down.

But no. It's always Obama, or Bush, or another president from the recent generation's fault.

Mon, 06/02/2014 - 02:48 | 4816113 therearetoomany...
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We, therefore, the representatives of the United States of America, in General Congress, assembled, appealing to the Supreme Judge of the world for the rectitude of our intentions, do, in the name, and by the authority of the good people of these colonies, solemnly publish and declare, that these united colonies are, and of right ought to be free and independent states;

 

that they are absolved from all allegiance to the British Crown, and that all political connection between them and the state of Great Britain, is and ought to be totally dissolved; and that as free and independent states, they have full power to levy war, conclude peace, contract alliances, establish commerce, and to do all other acts and things which independent states may of right do.

And for the support of this declaration, with a firm reliance on the protection of Divine Providence, we mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.

-Declaration of Independence

Sun, 06/01/2014 - 16:01 | 4814933 trader1
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what if you trust in one consciousness?

Sun, 06/01/2014 - 18:02 | 4815199 Radical Marijuana
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Yeah, trader1, I been through that experience several times.

Anyone who pays attention to the special theory of relativity, etc., will recognize that what Hicks said are scientific facts. It has become some kind of cosmic joke that the practical political result of the special theory of relativity has been the development of atomic energy through the social pyramid systems of lies backed violence, to make that social pyramid system becoming billions of times BIGGER.

Most of my adult life has been based on attempting to respond to the awareness of the problems of exponential growth backed up by atomic bombs. From a sublime point of view, there may be philosophical consolations. However, from a practical point of view, the human species are primarily preparing to commit collective suicide.

Clearly there are PROBLEMS with technologies becoming trillions of times more powerful and capable, while the primary applications of those technologies were through social controls via systems of legalized lies, backed by legalized violence. As far as I can tell, there is no practical point in learning about anything, since the central FACTS that one actually learns about are that the real world is almost totally controlled by systems of enforced frauds, where groups like the Big B meet in order to keep their systems of debt slavery, backed by wars based on deceits, going ... despite that those have already reached the point of debt insanities, and so, are on the verge of causing death insanities.

The "Oneness" of the universe still includes divine violence, like the relatively rare asteroid impact or super-volcano eruption. Similarly, these days, the "Oneness" of the universe includes the runaway criminal insanities of groups like the Big B.

Sun, 06/01/2014 - 15:40 | 4814871 hangemhigh77
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Hang these fuckers.  What are we waiting for?  lynchmobs soon.

Sun, 06/01/2014 - 16:25 | 4814998 therearetoomany...
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Right?   I mean, they're all in one place at the same time. 

Natural gas leak....just like 'the narrator's' apartment in Fight Club.  

Sun, 06/01/2014 - 15:59 | 4814924 Money_for_Nothing
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The other items on the agenda would be something like replacing the dollar as the currency of world trade and finishing the destruction of the US.

Sun, 06/01/2014 - 18:38 | 4815049 Dewey Cheatum Howe
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Global warming = tax the air your breath, nothing more, nothing less. It is the last tax revenue stream that they can try to exploit on a continuous manner. Wealth taxes and bank bail-ins are ultimately one off deals with a diminishing rate of return each subsequent attempt.

Sun, 06/01/2014 - 16:52 | 4815054 Dewey Cheatum Howe
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The whole sham is they only invite the B listers and minions. The real owners don't attend these meetings only proxy representatives do for them do. The owners only set the general direction like any major corporation, they don't get involved in the day to day operations that is what people like Pappy Bush, Soros, etc are there for.

Sun, 06/01/2014 - 16:58 | 4815057 Q-Q-Q
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Photos of 2014 attendees in gallery section

http://www.buildaburgerbelfast.com/#!gallery/c19rm

Sun, 06/01/2014 - 17:44 | 4815164 Radical Marijuana
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People like, Daniel Estulin, and others who have been watching the BIG B, have a very good track record of predicting future events, on the basis of what the BIG B was discussing and deciding to do. As the graphic of the iceberg in this article symbolically indicated, there IS a dominant social pyramid system, in which the pyramidion people are collectively a group of trillionaire mass murders. Nobody else is in their league, since almost the only significant opposition is also controlled by them too. Learning about the Big B is practically useless, like a diagnosis of an already terminal disease, just to "know" what IS going to kill you.

AFTER a few hundred years of the legalized counterfeiting of the public "money" supply by private banks, (like the Bank of England, on through) nobody else, outside of their BIG B CLUB, can compete. We are committed to the runaway spirals of enforced frauds going through psychotic breakdowns. There is really nothing else which is possible, but the runaway madness of the systems of legalized lies, backed by legalized violence, eventually destroying themselves. I do not believe there are any other feasible "solutions" until AFTER that happens ... which means we could not imagine what might be the "solutions" AFTER THAT HAS HAPPENED!

 

Sun, 06/01/2014 - 19:36 | 4815228 Frilton Miedman
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The government of my government is my enemy.

Political polarization has become the most powerful tool in the advent of global corporate reign, the best PSYOP tool there is, turn your target prey on itself -

Divide and Conquer.

Michael Moore's "Capitalism, a love story" was rightly ostracized by the right for it's anti-capitalist sentiment (which I agree is flat out wrong), yet he goes to great length to discuss the 2006 Citigroup Plutonomy conference and how the wealthiest individuals on the planet gathered to openly discuss the defeat of Democracy in place of Corporate Fascism.

While I disagree with Moore's anti-capitalist belief's for going to the opposite extreme that's just as bad, I think it's more important to agree with his dissent of Corporatism for the time being.

We need to prioritize our ideological angst, while it's been very easy for the right and left to go to histrionic lengths to beat the f%ck out of eachother over lesser ideological differences, we ALL appear to agree that Democracy is being jeopardized by the same source, the concentration of power and its back room governance..

We need to put aside the things we disagree on before it's too late, if it isn't already.

I'm a big fan of Paul Craig Roberts for this reason, he's been "no holds barred" on criticizing BOTH sides.

 

Sun, 06/01/2014 - 18:11 | 4815231 sbenard
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#6. America's Paper Tiger President!

Sun, 06/01/2014 - 19:15 | 4815352 WTFUD
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9 Ways to Fleece and Shackle Sheep made Simple.

Sun, 06/01/2014 - 20:36 | 4815517 Dollar Bill Hiccup
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What you feed your debt serfs?

Mine are looking a little listless.

Sun, 06/01/2014 - 21:37 | 4815689 bunnyswanson
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Perhaps you should get that dick of yours out of their mouth and let them take a breath you creep.

Sun, 06/01/2014 - 22:16 | 4815771 Dr. Gonzo
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It appears the Bilderberg Society is now the unofficial representative government of the oligarchs while the masses have fake token governments that cow tow the real unelected government?  

Mon, 06/02/2014 - 06:45 | 4816211 overmedicatedun...
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nothing to see here, move along, move along.....and we did

Mon, 06/02/2014 - 08:15 | 4816358 Davalicious
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They are making it obvious that Jews rule the show. This is a Jewish agenda.

1. They don't worry about India/Pakistan/NK/Israeli nuclear weapons, only Iran because it is in the middle east and not controlled by Jews.

2. Jewish John Kerry and Victoria Nuland put a Jewish (and Christian Zionist) interim government into power in Ukraine and fascilitated the election of a Jew from amongst Jew candidates. Putin, who is surrounded by Jew oligarchs and a long time pal of Henry Kissoff, is there to throw more white people into the meatgrinder when the cold war goes hot. The conflict is being set up.

3. Nationalism i.e. people wanting to control their own countries is a threat to Jewish control of our nations.

4. & 5. The internet is a poison pill for Jews who control virtually the entire world media

6. Jewish argument between those who want to weaken us with endless conflict vs the chomskis who want to socially engineer us to extinction

7. World government means no voice for the population. Have to hurry that along with the UN/IMP/whatever.

 

Mon, 06/02/2014 - 09:16 | 4816501 Mi Naem
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I tend to feel sorry for folks who think everything is the damn Jews. 

Mon, 06/02/2014 - 18:34 | 4818300 radiobomb
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fool.

Mon, 06/02/2014 - 09:01 | 4816466 esum
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obama is setting the ussa up for martial law..... 

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