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China Sends 4 More Fighter Jets To Oil Rig Area As Vietnam Threatens Legal Action
A number of Vietnamese officials have now threatened to bring legal action against China over their territorial dispute in the South China Sea; but it does not seem to be having any impact on China's efforts to defend and sustain their presence. As Bloomberg reports, a total of five Chinese fighter jets have now been deployed to the area of exploration in disputed waters off the coast of Vietnam today (compared to 1 previous day) citing Fishing Control Department under Vietnam’s agriculture ministry. China has refused to answer the case the Philippines filed with an international tribunal at The Hague. It is likely to pursue a similar strategy if Vietnam appeals to international law in its own disputes with China.
Vietnam appears set to use international law to settle its territorial disputes with China in the South China Sea... (via The Diplomat)
A number of Vietnamese officials have now threatened to bring legal action against China over their territorial dispute in the South China Sea.
And China is responding in kind (as Bloomberg reports)...
Total of five Chinese fighter jets deployed to area of exploration rig in disputed waters off coast of Vietnam today, compared to 1 previous day, newspaper reports, citing Fishing Control Department under Vietnam’s agriculture ministry.
China still maintains 120 vessels of all kinds, including 4 military ships in disputed Paracel Islands area: newspaper
Some 50 Vietnamese ships are fishing in Paracel Islands area 20-30 nautical miles from the rig: newspaper
And as The Diplomat notes, it is unlikely China will care...
Speaking to Bloomberg News on Friday, Prime Minister Nguyen Tan Dung said that Vietnam is preparing to bring its territorial row with China to an international arbitrator. “We are prepared and ready for legal action,” Dung said, according to Bloomberg. “We are considering the most appropriate timing to take this measure.”
Deputy Defense Minister Nguyen Chi Vinh reiterated the prime minister’s statement on the sidelines of the Shangri-La Dialogue in Singapore over the weekend. He also stated that China has asked Vietnam not to pursue legal action. “They [China] have asked us several times not to bring the case to international court,” Vinh told reporters on the sidelines of the annual security forum. “Our response was that it’s up to China’s activities and behavior; if they continue to push us, we have no choice. This [legal] option is also in accordance with international law.”
Earlier in the summit, Vinh held a bilateral meeting with Wang Guanzhong, deputy chief of general staff of the People’s Liberation Party, the highest ranking military official Beijing sent to the Shangri-La Dialogue.
Vietnam was one of many countries who used the Shangri-La Dialogue to criticize China’s actions in Asia’s maritime disputes in the South and East China Seas. As The Diplomat has previously reported, Japanese Prime Minister Shinzo Abe made implicit criticisms of China’s recent actions in his keynote speech on Friday, while U.S. Defense Secretary Chuck Hagel made more explicit criticisms of China.
Australia also criticized China’s recent actions. “They’ve been certainly unhelpful, and if they’re unhelpful they must be destabilizing,” Australian Defense Minister David Johnston said at the Singapore conference. “The unilateral action of the declaration of boundaries is completely unhelpful and takes us in the wrong direction.”
General Wang lashed out at both Japan and the United States during his own speech to the annual forum on Sunday. He accused Tokyo and Washington of colluding together in criticizing China, though he said he preferred Hagel’s remarks because they were more direct than Abe’s, which didn’t mention China directly.
Vietnam’s threats to take up its case for sovereignty with an international arbitrator has obvious parallels with the Philippines, who is also appealing to international courts to deal with its territorial disputes with China over parts of the South China Sea. Last month, Prime Minister Dung traveled to the Philippines to meet with President Benigno Aquino III as well as attend the World Economic Forum on East Asia. Dung said during the trip that the two leaders “shared deep concern over the current extremely dangerous situation caused by China’s many actions that violate international law.”
Around the same time, Dung told the Associated Press that, “like all countries, Vietnam is considering various defense options, including legal actions in accordance with the international law.” According to the Associated Press, it was the first time Vietnam had seriously considered using international law to help resolve its dispute with China. Two unnamed Vietnamese diplomats told the Associated Press at the time that Vietnam might join the Philippines ongoing case or else begin its own complaint against China.
China has refused to answer the case the Philippines filed with an international tribunal at The Hague. It is likely to pursue a similar strategy if Vietnam appeals to international law in its own disputes with China. Interestingly, in his remarks at the Shangri-La Dialogue, General Wang rejected U.S. criticisms that China isn’t following international law by noting that the U.S. has not signed onto the UN Convention on the Law of the Seas.
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Yeah, that ought to do it.
The law is dead. If you're strong enough to take it and hold it, it's yours.
China kills its own. Think it will blink?
Remember Tiananmen Square?
http://www.planbeconomics.com/2014/06/tiananmen-square-declassified-hist...
Wake me up when the word is "destroyed" not "deployed."
No doubt.
The shitting eating Chincoms should start the fight already. What a bunch of 1.5 billion pussies. Do you think they would even exist if they're the same size as Vietnam.
I once fought these Chins, when I was a kid in San Francisco. They bring the whole clan to the fight, their brothers, sisters, mothers, fathers. It was mayhem. It's in their DNA, going in with numbers, but one to one, they're just pussies.
I think the US is out of line with the TPP, its Asia Pivot and China Containment Policy.
But then I also think that China is way, way, way out of line with its territorial water claims
Look at the map.
It may be a bargaining ploy.
But they had better watch out.. we may attack the canopy of one of their supersonic fighter jets with the propeller of one of our lumbering surveillance planes.
law of the land, Might is right.
China = Predator
Never bring a lawyer to a jet fight.
sounds like you got your ass beat! Chin scarred you permanently. Chin raped you.
BREAKING NEWS - China deploying lawyer jet fighter pilots.
Legal action? This is getting SERIOUS.
Release the lawyers! And if that doesn't work, Japan will write an angry letter to the editor of the London Times.
lol and if it gets really serial, a committee will be formed!
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lol and if it gets really serial, a committee will be formed!"
Comprising of the US, Japan, Vietnam and the Philippines, all totally unbiased parties.
Then the US offers to start sending cannon fodder to defend our allies' interests in the rocks. And the Pentagon gets an increase in the emergency budget for body bags. Whats not to like ?/sarc
Let these monkeys shoot one another. I betcha they are all scum eating surrender monkeys.
this is the US talking not Phillipines or Vietnam - the new order is to reduce this war game to lawyers in courts / venues the US controls with phony arbitrators picked for the task - there are no facts, logic, prescident - only control of the venue
Chinese or Russia or X will never win in those arenas - its all a set up - key is new currency and new settlement system so the debt / judgment can never be realized
the US is promoting a new curency ex the dollar every time people around the world see this bullshit
we are witnessing a major sea change - no one believes anything anywhere in the world the US says
Today will be deemed the Obama Age of Lies and damn lies - he will go down as the Liar President!
"And if that doesn't work, Japan will write an angry letter to the editor of the London Times."
Not the Diplomat ? Their analysts and op-ed contributors could lecture China to death.
"Fighter jets" vs "Legal action" Fucking hardy Fucking har!
"the pen is mighter than..." *boom*
China gooks too fukin boo koo! Fuk yoo GI:-)
Law isn't dead. Law has always been created to mostly benefit those with power. Hence the saying "Might Makes Right".
It is fascinating to watch the MSM skate from one agenda to another. For example, Syria Syria Syria. When that plan fails, they segue into inane celebutard cases, sports and other diversions. Before you know it is all about Ukraine. When that debacle fails it is back to more blah blah. We live in frighteningly Orwellian times...
The truth is that the economy is a lie ,US foreign policy is a disaster- in the wake lies civil war , death and human misery, the debt is continuing to explode, and yet it still has the appearence of continuity. These are fucking strange days.
The "Complicit Media."
complicit == bought and paid fo media
Complicit? Hmmm. More like Obedient.
Check out the owners of all major "news" networks. You'll see why the puppet MSM doesn't really have any independence whatsoever.
Not strange days, End of days.
Boko Haram is next on program.
"The truth is that the economy is a lie ,US foreign policy is a disaster-"
Yeah, but stupid policies contribute to dead Americans, thats the problem.
Stupid Americans contribute to dead Americans, that's the problem. Even fake elections have consequences.
How are we supposed to take the Chinese people seriously when they give their offspring names like Wang? Greetings General Wang..... snicker snicker... It's been far too LONG since we last met. How is your son Lon Dong? Is he still Lei Ying Lo with Sum Dum Gai? What? What did I say? Is Sum Ting Wong?
Damn. This site's comment section has really gone down the gutter. It use to be really good with intelligent posts.
the floor is yours jannewmx. we are all tapped out. feel free to enlighten us.
yes......shower us with a gift of life
Well jan with the stupidity that seems to be inherent in the system, for fuks sake what do you expect? Mongo enjoys an enlightening, intellectual conversation as much as the next drunk guy....but this whole bukake sham has jaded even the aarmchair wannabe Nietzsches! So if you would please contribute some sensible diatribe it just might be refreshing:-)
"It use to be really good with intelligent posts."
Ok, well how about this one...how many more Vietnamese fishing boats have to go to the bottom before China dominates the waters with its "lawful will" on smaller nations?
Better? ;-)
I'm honored that your first post in your 2 years 19 weeks of being a member was to reply to mine. I'll take that as a compliment because I know an intelligence person like yourself understands that we live in an insane world and sometimes a person has to have a little fun in order to keep themselves out of the nut house. I guess another option for a person would be to walk around with a stick up their ass using their one and only comment to criticize rather than to say something constructive, but what kind of asshole would want to be a person like that?
the kind of asshole that does not appreciate wambulance humor.
That's gutter talk Mr.
You never know when they're going to snap, Doc. You just never know.
Isn't that the truth? I always marvel at the members who seem to be fairly stable when they post then they suddenly snap and get kicked off the front porch.
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Wooooo, that is a remarkable achievement. Hollow phrasing that can cover everything and anything.
Wi Tu Lo?
wow zero hedge bunch of racist and broke scumbags. China is on top. Nothing you can do to change that!
A number of Vietnamese officials have now threatened to bring legal action against China over their territorial dispute in the South China sea. The next logical step should that fail, would be to call a wambulance.
Fishing control? China needs a better PR firm, have their social engineers been asleep for the last century?
Justification for evil brainstorm:
How about declaring war on sharks?
Planned military excercises?
Nigerian diplomats being treated to a joy ride?
In the world of land grabs, posession is nine tenths of the law. Always has been. Ron Paul would say it's none of our damm business. I would have to agree. If we do want to get involved, we will just have to borrow more money from China to finance the war?
I 100% agree with Ron Paul, however, the funny thing is that this is a test by the Chinese on how bankrupt the DC US is--both morally and financially.
If one listens carefully, one can hear a song emanating from the Ukraine and the South China Sea. That is the first aria of the “fat lady.”
Naw, we'll just borrow money for body bags. We don't want to deprive our brave allies from defending their turf.
Let them slug it out with the Chicoms since they are so keen on it. American taxpayers are happy to pay for the body bags.
I recall the arrogance of the Filipinos who wanted the Yankees to go home and now they want the Yankees back ?
SORRY ! Ain't gonna be a repeat performance.
The thing is, drilling ended last month. The Chinese probably have a dry hole there or there would be production facilities en route.
But you generally drill 5 or 6 before you declare a region empty. FYI, the seismic imagery can only show structures that might hold oil. They can't see if oil is there. This is why so many wells are drilled and fail to find anything significant.
If you knew it was empty, you would not drill. But when all you know is that the geology looks promising, then you have to spend millions drilling to say . . . empty. No one is ever happy about that and jobs are lost when it happens, which is more often than not.
If the Chinese spent millions to drill 5 dry holes then the Vietnamese should be very thankfull. When the Vietnamese drill for oil they know not to look at this location!
Drilling Dry Holes. This could be a Paul Krugman wet dream. Massive drilling operation causing huge economic stimulus in machinery and jobs, yet coming up empty with no oil to pollute. This game could go on forever. And for an extra benifit, maybe a war to boot. What is not to like.
BTFWW3
You have to respect the fact that they landed 4 fighter jets on an oil rig.
Yes, they're that good.
/sarc
You want to rawyer up!
Fine.
I send Fighta jet yo way!
Americans are writing imbeciles
I have not written the word imbeciles in a very long time, that I can remember. Almost nobody I know writes the word imbeciles on a frequent basis.
However, most of the people I know do not know what the word imbeciles means, nor how to spell it. So we've got that going for us.
Isn't "Imbeciles" a bar in the Eccles building?
Less legal action and more Commando action. Send in the scuba team and blow it out of the water.
How do you fight off a bear (or dragon in this case)? Punch him in the nose.
It takes a lot of oil to build fake cities.
Is the rule of International Law any better than the Rule of Law in the US? How do they find honest political hacks to be judges either internationally or in the US?
We can afford to keep the war machine going if we completely cut off medicare and social security, completely fucking over millions of people. You think they won't do this? Look how much the fed and the government are willing to destroy the economy just to bail out a few bankers. Making millions of old people homeless just to fight some stupid war doesn't sound too far fetched.
Funny... what's happening in America today is the mirror image(?) of what Mao in China was fighting for-- to ease socialism into communism, via an 'Imperialistic Feudal/ Capitalist Democracy called a Constitutional Republic'?!?
His first great experiment in social engineering was called, "The Great Leap Forward"... a grandiose failure! It was all about economics (economies of scale in rural agrarian/ industrial provinces) and the masses (all middle/ poor peasants [children/ the old age/ esp., the helpless?) suffered the most.
The next plan Mao initiated was, "The Cultural Revolution" that didn't fare much better. It was all about Politic's. The elite suffered the most along with the intellectuals. It lasted until Mao's death in 1976. Most contemporary historian's of the 20th century proclaim that the "Great Proletarian Cultural Revolution" was hand's-down... the most extraodinary political upheaval in China's 'Four Thousand Year History"!
jmo
Once again the US shows everyone else how to get away with murder.
Court VS. Bombs
This is all a smokescreen. Oil rig my ass. MA Flight 370 went down in that area and the Chineese want their damn gold back.
Hey, how do you know this is not what all the fuss is about, who would want a rig that has no oil ?
When in doubt, search youtube for news about China! Apparently they're gathering along the boarder. Video is a week old
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=em8Ui527oho
They have been massing for some time.....I don't know whether the chinese will pull the trigger or not. If they do, world condemnation will be swift & harsh.
NTDTV is an anti-communist network but a very good source for info not found in the mainstream media. The quality is good too. Chris Chappel is a fun guy & I like him. I think they are affiliated with the Falon Gong but I don't care.
Q: What's brown and sounds like a bell?
A: DUNG!
I told you yesterday on the china article on ZH that the ASEAN Security summit was a yelling match.
US media don't write such stuff, but on Japanese news sites, china mentioned Japan/US 14 times each & strongly criticized the 2 countries. Hagel's face was so livid with anger that it nearly became a fist fight.
"Hagel's face was so livid with anger that it nearly became a fist fight."
Almost priceless. For my money, I wished he had stood up and thrown a few punches. It will be the 1st time, anyone in the Obama administration has provided meaningful entertainment.
Vietnamese dudes, you must not be reading ZeroHedge, the world doesn't abide by the West's misconstrued laws any longer. The West has been judged to be run by a bunch immoral sociopathic globalists. Its every man for themselves now suckers. It would behoove you to just say fuck it and BTFD M'Fers.
Lawyers vs guns and bullets. Guess who's going to win?
"Lawyers vs guns and bullets. Guess who's going to win?"
My money's on the lawyers. Ya can't kill 'em. Even vampires run away from them.
Perfect, the Samsung folks have some new stuff to test out, probably in secret collusion with the Japs and now some paying customers.
In my humble observations;
1) It may be difficult to drill for oil in a war zone.
2) I'm starting to see the shadow of North Koreas Little Kim in the leaders of China these days.
3) How hard is it to sabotage an oil rig? (they seem to screw up nicely with little or no help)
4) How much oil will they need to offset the cost of 100 ships and planes flying around guarding one oil platform?
5) The are not making many new friends in their neighborhood.
Boohoohoo, China's gonna sink the vietdong "navy".
Confucius say:
Long Dong velly happy to drill wiff Big Rig all day
i thought the ussa fought the vietnam war for the oil off vietnam... what gives here? another obama secret flex...???