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Deadly Ukraine Fighter Jet Bombing Caught On Tape

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Earlier today we reported that even as the western media blackout of events in Ukraine gets more black, the ongoing civil war is getting ever more uncivil, following a Ukraine fighter jet attack on the east Ukraine town of Lugansk, in which it struck not only the local administration building, but a neighboring area, resulting in numerous civilian casualties and injuries. Kiev was quick to deny that it was using its airforce on its own people, claiming instead that the explosion quite clearly caught on tape was merely locals trying to unsuccessfully shoot at the fighter jet.

So for your viewing displeasure, because the reality of yet another fratricidal war is hardly enjoyable, and so readers can make up their own minds, here is the moment of the fighter jet bombing caught on tape, as well as the tragic consequences.

The first clip shows CCTV footage as the rocket explosion is spread out across a park neighboring the administration building.

The next clip captures moment the Kiev fighter fired at fellow Ukrainians - something the west vocally condemned when it was allegedly conducted under former president Yanukovich, and is all too quiet this time.

From a different angle:

And the aftermath.

 

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Mon, 06/02/2014 - 22:07 | 4818828 COSMOS
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Kiev needs a few car bombs going off in that city ASAP, especially in Maidan

Mon, 06/02/2014 - 22:08 | 4818839 jomama
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which part of the Hasbara manual covers that again?

Tue, 06/03/2014 - 05:34 | 4819495 Looney
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I hope Nuland, Kerry, Psaki and their telemprompting boss are happy with the bloodshed. Oh, and those war-mongering cunts "McCain & Graham, Inc." too.

Looney

www.youtube.com/embed/P_7IgxN6AbI  (there's a lot of blood, body parts, and racket fragments)

Tue, 06/03/2014 - 06:23 | 4819532 Headbanger
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It's horrible.

Get a good look at it cause that's what's coming to the US in a few years after the financial collapse.

 

Tue, 06/03/2014 - 06:51 | 4819554 gold-is-not-dead
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Those sick bastards Putin, Yatsenyuk and Obama are masturbating to this. Who the fuck build those weapons in the first place, and using what money?

Tue, 06/03/2014 - 09:25 | 4819813 MontgomeryScott
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I have a question.

In the second video, after the plane flyover, the scene goes to the street, where there are a few men and some tires. A guy walks across the screen in khakis, carring a rifle, and he's shouting something while waving.

It sounds to me like he's saying 'Get back, get back, get back, get back' in American English. Am I mistaken?

Tue, 06/03/2014 - 14:43 | 4820846 Nevsky
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Davai, suda suda suda idi [Russian]

 

Come on here here here, come

Tue, 06/03/2014 - 09:39 | 4819848 MansaMusa
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this is all scripted.  Militaries are preparing to duke it out all over the world (China Sea, Ukraine in Europe, Hindu-Kush valley Pakistan & India, Iran and Israel).  Oligarchs and bankers already hashed out the details long ago (see Albert Pike).

Nevertheless, bet wisely; I'd say by summer there'll be "peace keeping troops" with boots and Israel using nukes on Iran facilities by end of the year!!!   Wake me up then...

Mon, 06/02/2014 - 22:08 | 4818843 Harlequin001
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Press freedom? Fuck 'em.

The western media is a fucking disgrace.

Mon, 06/02/2014 - 22:20 | 4818852 COSMOS
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What gets me is how hundreds of reporters can write such BS knowing they are lying through their teeth.  Have they no conscience.  I thought people went into journalism because they were liberals and wanted the truth, not because they wanted to be sock puppets for some rich western dudes who control the media.

If I was a Eastern Ukrainian with some buddies I would take a little ride down to Kiev with a few AKs and to a nice storming of their parliment building killing as many mofos as I could get my hands on.

http://news.yahoo.com/russia-grants-gas-respite-seeks-u-n-vote-123745428...

so here is yahoo news only mention of the bombing so far buried in a finance article and then reported as most likely a stray rocket fired by the east ukrainians

Story mind you from Donetsk written by Thomas Grove and Mark Trevelyan. Add these two losers to the journalism Halls of Sock Puppet Shame.  And mind you NO PICTURES of the dead or of the plane shooting its rockets etc just pictures of Donbass self defense forces shooting a rocket propelled grenade in a training exercise and blah blah blah

Mon, 06/02/2014 - 22:38 | 4818925 bigkahuna
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Dont rush to judgement, thats what the MIC and the PTB hope you do. Though I am interested if the Kiev folks will deny they did this.

If they did it- kick their ass, but make sure first.

Mon, 06/02/2014 - 23:40 | 4819086 gmrpeabody
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" I thought people went into journalism because they were liberals and wanted the truth"

Is that some kind of a joke...?

"Liberals" are in control of most every aspect of America today...,

do you feel like you are getting the truth? About anything?

I sense you mean well, but you must be very young and a product of our modern public schools.

Mon, 06/02/2014 - 23:56 | 4819141 SgtShaftoe
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If you're still stuck on the blue team/red team side you're a fucking idiot. 

Mon, 06/02/2014 - 23:58 | 4819145 Scarlett
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Nice job, Mrs "Fuck the EU" Nuland.

Tue, 06/03/2014 - 02:44 | 4819398 AldousHuxley
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North Korea has state sponsored journalists representing the voice of one party interests.

USA has journalists supposedly representing the voice of 2 party interests, but with liberals = conservatives, you really only have one.

 

 

Tue, 06/03/2014 - 09:06 | 4819759 Terminus C
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While I agree with your assessment, if you think Russia Today is any less a propaganda machine than any of the other media outlets (including ZH - read their disclaimer) then you are on crack.  Information is power, so the powerful seek to control it.

Tue, 06/03/2014 - 01:03 | 4819267 Otrader
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I hear that left/right wing bullshit all day long at work.  Each blaming the other.   I remember the so called 'liberal media' and their black out of the Iraq/afghanistan war coverage back in the Bush days, too.   Once, the stupid populace start blaming each other, the elite can continue their crimes against them for eternity.

Tue, 06/03/2014 - 01:05 | 4819271 fencejumper
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Exactly, Otrader, divide and conquer.

Tue, 06/03/2014 - 08:35 | 4819687 Greenie
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Forward Comrades!

Tue, 06/03/2014 - 01:03 | 4819268 fencejumper
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Completely agree, Sgt!

Tue, 06/03/2014 - 10:40 | 4819998 JRobby
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+ trillions

Thank you. You drew the least flames of the group too. Maybe they are starting to understand this corporate journalism thing?

Tue, 06/03/2014 - 04:19 | 4819460 Which is worse ...
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Why doesn't the West recognise its arrogance is the votes,  not just the politicians? How did the voters get there? 

Tue, 06/03/2014 - 06:28 | 4819538 ratpack1968
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Life is high school.  The TPTB are the football team and the cheer leaders. The media are the hangers on who get to hang out with the cool kids, they get to be a part of the "inner circle". They print only favorable stories so as not to be shunned by the cool kids. Print something negative about the administration and you wont be invited to the kegger at Biff's house this weekend.  Simple as that - a bunch of shallow, maleable celebrity worhshipers who gain access to the club with their keyboards.  Journalism died a long time ago and TPTB, seeing the risk posed by bloggers, are working on shutting them down too.

Tue, 06/03/2014 - 07:36 | 4819588 shitco.in
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And the nerdy kids are the ones that own Bitcoin.  The jocks will all be working for us in 5 years. 

Tue, 06/03/2014 - 09:10 | 4819771 Terminus C
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Nah, the jocks invited Judas the Nerd to a party last weekend and told him he could join the club if he'd get bitcoin under their control.

Tue, 06/03/2014 - 10:12 | 4819915 52821740
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Mt Gox.

Mon, 06/02/2014 - 23:02 | 4819009 Crawdaddy
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The reporters are willing accomplishers because they think they are smarter than you (and me).

Tue, 06/03/2014 - 06:34 | 4819541 Jendrzejczyk
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Assuming an autocorrect error: accomplices

Tue, 06/03/2014 - 10:17 | 4819926 Crawdaddy
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correct - my spellcheck is broken atm...

Mon, 06/02/2014 - 23:08 | 4819016 jeff montanye
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there is a slow melting of the monopoly that the puppets had/have on the muppets.  to hear vt tell it part of the cia is involved, in a good way.  http://kauilapele.wordpress.com/2014/06/01/preston-james-vt-5-31-14-911-...

i'm with him up to the luciferian black masses with child sacrifice, but that one still seems iffy, although george h.w. bush is a possibility.

Mon, 06/02/2014 - 23:16 | 4819054 Cathartes Aura
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there was a story/link posted here on ZH way back

when cheney shot his friend "duck" hunting

a certain Texas town, historical ranching family, owned

let's just say, "ducks" weren't what they hunted. . .

Tue, 06/03/2014 - 04:14 | 4819454 ebear
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Badgers most likely.

PULL!

Tue, 06/03/2014 - 07:40 | 4819596 countryboy42
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It was quail hunting, a 28 guage shotgun, and he shot a lawyer. I don't see the problem.

Tue, 06/03/2014 - 01:59 | 4819351 AnAnonymous
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What gets me is how hundreds of reporters can write such BS knowing they are lying through their teeth. Have they no conscience. I thought people went into journalism because they were liberals and wanted the truth, not because they wanted to be sock puppets for some rich western dudes who control the media.
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Sock puppets? They are not sock puppets.

The free press is an institution of the 'american' middle class, by the 'american' middle class, for the 'american' middle class.

Rich owners only grew rich because they serve well the 'american' middle class at large.
They have very little power on their journalists.

Journalists, as they are 'american' middle class, report situations in the way they think would benefit to themselves.

They are not interested in facts. They are interested in dressing reality in a way they benefit from it.

The free press receives no order, no directive. They act on their free will. They tell the version of the story they feel is going to benefit themselves and themselves first.

The free press exert their power from their own profit, not for the profit of a rich 'american' guy who only grew rich because he served well the 'american' middle class.

Tue, 06/03/2014 - 03:31 | 4819432 OldPhart
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You forget the 'editors' that allow what misspelled stories we are allowed to see.

 

Tue, 06/03/2014 - 05:32 | 4819496 what's that smell
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and you forgot the "owners" who don't give a fuck about you.

Tue, 06/03/2014 - 07:20 | 4819566 AnAnonymous
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The editor is a manager, not a leader. The editor does not impose a line, the editor collects views from the pool of journalists and take the path that is supposed to trouble the smallest number of journalists.

In other words, the editor's choices reflects the consensual view on a situation by the collective of 'american' journalists.

Any journalist willing to report on Ukraine with high intensity is opposed by the will of his fellow 'american' middle class workers to suppress the reports.

If that journalist keeps insisting, the manager (editor) steps in and uses authority to keep the journalist down.

An editor has the support of the collective of journalists. He is a simple manager.

Tue, 06/03/2014 - 12:38 | 4820422 ceilidh_trail
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When did your cHinEEse overlords let you out again? I hadn't seen your scribblings in a while and now a sudden burst of them... Where your lockup conditions ok?

Tue, 06/03/2014 - 03:49 | 4819320 Mine Is Bigger
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I think it is a lot more difficult to lie about what's happening in Ukraine than in places like Afghanistan.  Ukraine may not be a wealthy country, but its mobile phone ownership ratio is quite high.  So lies by the MSM can be easily disproved by youtube videos posted by local people.  That could be the reason why they have sharply reduced reporting on Ukraine.

Mon, 06/02/2014 - 22:33 | 4818929 Millivanilli
Mon, 06/02/2014 - 22:59 | 4819003 Axenolith
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Damn Milli, long time since I heard that...

Mon, 06/02/2014 - 23:00 | 4819005 Squid Viscous
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+1 mllion  - Lee Ving!

Mon, 06/02/2014 - 22:58 | 4819000 ebworthen
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Democracy?

Mon, 06/02/2014 - 23:09 | 4819026 Bunga Bunga
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Don't worry, Blackwater-Academi is already in the area.

Mon, 06/02/2014 - 23:39 | 4819102 strannick
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CIA desperate to draw in Putin..

Mon, 06/02/2014 - 23:43 | 4819111 Taurine
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I hope Tyler reports COSMOS to police for calling to violence. If not Zerohedge officially supports terrorists and those who support murdering people with "car bombs". If you had any brains you would see that it wasnt Ukrainian army but some Pro-Russian retard playing with RPG while trying to attack Ukrainian army.

No wonder this site is full with "smart money" shorting market for years, shit for brains.

I took screenshot of Cosmos posts and will report it myself also.

Mon, 06/02/2014 - 23:52 | 4819127 COSMOS
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LOL make sure you report Kerry and Brennan and all the other IMF dudes who went down there and urged the govt to kill its civillians and gave them money and equipment and military 'advisors' for it.

Oh but I forgot you must believe in Exceptionalism.

Mon, 06/02/2014 - 23:53 | 4819135 Taurine
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Nice to see that you even believe your own lies, civilians with RPGs and other weapons that can shoot down choppers. Keep on, keep on. Where I live civilians walk around with phones, laptops not RPGs. Brainwashed zombie.

Mon, 06/02/2014 - 23:57 | 4819143 COSMOS
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LOL yes they walk as NSA slaves with their phones and laptops like good little Serfs who dont have a Constitution anymore.  At least those people in East Ukraine are fighting for their freedom rather than take IMF chains and buy into the NSA monitoring system.

Tue, 06/03/2014 - 00:01 | 4819154 bunzbunzbunz
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Keep peeling those layers. What freedom do they have if they win?

Tue, 06/03/2014 - 00:05 | 4819164 BlindMonkey
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Freedom from those oh so very helpful folks at the IMF would be a good start.

Tue, 06/03/2014 - 09:34 | 4819835 detached.amusement
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what twat downvotes something like that

Tue, 06/03/2014 - 00:10 | 4819179 Taurine
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Nice red herring with NSA. Explain to me, at what point civilians are no longer civilians? When they drive tanks? No regular civilian can shoot RPGs, hit choppers etc. These Pro-Russian retards are attacking Ukrainian army while hiding like cowards on the rooftops of civilian appartment houses, inside schools and then crying to Russian media about how Ukrainian army is shooting at schools, appartment houses. 

Tue, 06/03/2014 - 00:21 | 4819207 TheMeatTrapper
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"No regular civilian can shoot RPGs, hit choppers etc."

Something tells me you ain't from Alabama. 

Just for the record, down here we don't have "civilians", we have citizens. 

Tue, 06/03/2014 - 00:40 | 4819240 BlackChicken
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Which agency do you work for?

Tue, 06/03/2014 - 00:55 | 4819258 Anusocracy
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Are you retarded?

Your comments describe the US's modus operandi for the last half century in destabilizing countries.

You must be a dumb ass government shill.

Tue, 06/03/2014 - 01:25 | 4819299 ObamaDepression
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He also ignores these little fucks are Chechen mercenaries paid for by Putin.

Tue, 06/03/2014 - 04:30 | 4819469 ObamaDepression
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Down arrows are NOT a rebutal.

Tue, 06/03/2014 - 05:48 | 4819505 Aaaarghh
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rebuttal, also, lets not forget who started this little shindig wanting Ukraine in the EU and NATO. It was always going to be civil war as so many russians live in the ukraine. US and EU knew EXACTLY what they were doing installing a neo-nazi government in power; then claimed not to know a fucking thing when it all came out. They just want to goad Putin into war. I know putin and his cronies are no angels, but ffs.

Looking at the footage and pictures, it was mainly civilians that have been harmed. Where's the reporting in in western media. None of the fuckers care.

This isn't directed soley at yourself btw, there are others on here that need to open their eyes/ears.

Tue, 06/03/2014 - 01:35 | 4819321 Volkodav
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No regular civilian...blah blah blah

Welcome to Russia ....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LrxjYfl05ek

 

Tue, 06/03/2014 - 03:40 | 4819436 COSMOS
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Great video, those teenagers can be on my team anytime!!!

Tue, 06/03/2014 - 05:12 | 4819487 Flagit
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Explain to me, at what point civilians are no longer civilians?

 

Its not something you will ever be able to understand. The fact you see them as civilians and not citizens.

Tue, 06/03/2014 - 07:30 | 4819580 RazvanM
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There are no civilians shooting down helicopters and destroying tanks in Ukraine. Russian infiltrators, experienced Spetznaz soldiers sent to wage war by Russia. Training a military to be so successfull against hard targets takes serious time and resources.

Even here, on zh, the Russian propaganda is in full swing. That is because they try to associate with the people unhappy with the situation at home in US. But people, in Russia you would be kidnapped, tortured and killed for what you write in US against Gov.

You afford to spend time and write from confort of your home because at least you have the means to 1) have a house 2) have computer and internet 3) have money and spare time to write 4) be able to write without fearing phisical harm 5) knowing from experience that your life can be better.

You cannot compare a full blown dictatorship even with Obama's US. I don't believe that most of the people reading these articles may be so naiive. There are Russian agitators here trying to swing the public opinion, but they can only rely on your insatisfaction towards US, not on the better life conditions in Russia.

Tue, 06/03/2014 - 07:58 | 4819624 TheFourthStooge-ing
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ReTaurdine noted:

Where I live civilians walk around with phones, laptops not RPGs. Brainwashed zombies

I'm sure you fit right in with them.

Tue, 06/03/2014 - 01:01 | 4819264 Volkodav
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RPG does not leave numerous craters, holes and structure damages.

RPG does not kill and maim over several impacts many meters area.

If you had any brains....

The Ukrainian Military Aircraft dropped cluster bombs on civilians.

 

Tue, 06/03/2014 - 01:26 | 4819305 ObamaDepression
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Can you offer proof?

Its well documented now that these RPG guys are Chechen mercenary scum. There's no doubt who's paying for them.

Tue, 06/03/2014 - 03:27 | 4819429 franciscopendergrass
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Chechen scum.  I cant tell good US backed Chechen terrorists from Chechen scum funded by Putin.

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2004/sep/08/usa.russia

 Didnt the US teach people to shoot down Soviet helicopters with stinger missiles?  Another proxy war where people become pawns to a global chess match.

Tue, 06/03/2014 - 04:28 | 4819468 ObamaDepression
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So once again, I'l ask: where do the RPG's and AK-47's come from the "rebels" are using ???

 

Down arrow isn't an answer/

Tue, 06/03/2014 - 08:10 | 4819507 Aaaarghh
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ok, right, so russia doesn't supply their own with weapons, and they are supposed to oppose ethnic cleansing with what exactly? Jeez, amerika supplies rogue states and terrorist organisations with weapons and worse for use on their own people and americans.

plus, did you see who was hurt? Not many looked like fuckin rebels did they?

Also, as I am sure you are aware, down/up arrow is to indicate the communities belief/agreement on a topic/post. Looks like you need more troll/shill buddies.

Tue, 06/03/2014 - 04:45 | 4819478 Flagit
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Can i have a job? Where do I apply? I am a MASTER at typing up worthless bullshit.

I can lie, deny any truth to the bitter end, regardless of mountains of evidence.

Tue, 06/03/2014 - 07:27 | 4819576 tarsubil
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Good luck. I applied for these jobs too. Never got an interview. I think you have to go to a casting couch or something with an old white Senator or something.

Tue, 06/03/2014 - 08:59 | 4819737 SAT 800
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Well, you won't get paid; except in what Freud called Neurotic pay-offs; but you're already perfectly qualified to be a typical Zero Brain poster.

Tue, 06/03/2014 - 08:07 | 4819638 TheFourthStooge-ing
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ObamaDepression, hypocricy on display, said:

Can you offer proof?

Its well documented now that these RPG guys are Chechen mercenary scum. There's no doubt who's paying for them.

If it is so well documented, perhaps you can share some of this documentation with us.

Can you offer proof, or is this just another one of your unsupported assertions?

Tue, 06/03/2014 - 04:24 | 4819463 Which is worse ...
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You call it violence,  others call it revolutionary terror. 

Tue, 06/03/2014 - 05:27 | 4819492 The_Prisoner
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I don't know why are you throwing a fit here. If you are a pro-west Ukrainian there is not doubt you will get what you want. Freedom EU-style, also known as IMF debt-serfdom.

So I suggest you watch the news in Spain and Greece, because that is your future. And find a way to try and keep yourself warm over Winter, perhaps the Greeks might have some ideas.

 

 

 

Wed, 06/04/2014 - 01:20 | 4822310 Dexter Morgan
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Who is number 1?  Greeks use number 2?  I am not a number, I am a human bean.  Be seeing you.

Tue, 06/03/2014 - 09:29 | 4819824 MontgomeryScott
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Who are you reporting this to, 'Taurine'?

Screenshot THIS... (waving middle finger)

Tue, 06/03/2014 - 11:48 | 4820225 Zuhalter
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It's a useless endeavor Taurine. COSMOS is likely one of the social media trolls hired and retained by the Russian government to sway public opinion on internet message boards. You don't think it's unusual that someone who just joined the forum only 4 weeks does nothing but post pro-Russian and anti-western vitriol? Don't bother wasting your time with this.

http://www.buzzfeed.com/maxseddon/documents-show-how-russias-troll-army-...

Tue, 06/03/2014 - 00:28 | 4819218 Kirk2NCC1701
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At this point I gotta suspect that the US/Israel is desperate to provoke the Russian air defense into using their high tech system, to allow both (but especially Israel) to analyze it for weaknesses, before an attack on Iran itself.

If in doubt, think Israel vs Iran.  Actually, to be precise:  Global Zionists vs Iran.  PCR articulates well what some of us here have been saying for a while about the Shadows of Power players and their true agenda.  http://thecrux.com/controversial-post-why-world-war-iii-is-inevitable-now/

Global Zionists have hijacked the Israeli government, just like fascist Neocons have hijacked the US government.  Both are in cahoots -- with the tail wagging the dog of war.

Tue, 06/03/2014 - 01:27 | 4819308 ObamaDepression
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Jew hate is a sign of a small mind (and penis)

Tue, 06/03/2014 - 01:51 | 4819339 Ward no. 6
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he is talking about zionism not judaism...

he is not hating jews...

 

Tue, 06/03/2014 - 02:34 | 4819393 Sirius Wonderblast
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Shatner, let us not forget, is of the faith...

Tue, 06/03/2014 - 02:28 | 4819390 BringOnTheAsteroid
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Well, when you call yourselves the "Chosen Ones" you gotta expect a little bit of flack.

Tue, 06/03/2014 - 03:32 | 4819433 franciscopendergrass
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Is that you Jay Carney?   So Obamadrpression is your new handle.   How fitting.  I was wondering what you were up to these days

Tue, 06/03/2014 - 08:18 | 4819659 TheFourthStooge-ing
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ObamaDepression, in a fit of anti-credibility, said:

Jew hate is a sign of a small mind (and penis)

Please point out where Kirk2NCC1701 mentioned anything about Jews or hatred for them.

One can love Jews (or in fact be a Jew) and be critical of the Israeli government and/or the Zionist project. You'd rather people didn't remember that little fact, though, because it deprives you of one of your favorite propaganda tools. (Incidentally, what's with your penis dimension obsession?)

Tue, 06/03/2014 - 08:51 | 4819722 sleigher
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I always figured in an argument if one side refers to the others penis size that the argument is over.  Like when my kids call each other stupid because they have no other vector of attack.

Tue, 06/03/2014 - 09:04 | 4819749 SAT 800
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provoke the air defense system to attack-" yes; to cause Causus Belli. Not for knowledge. As a one-time employee in R&D in an American Military Defense Electronics Contractor, I can assure you they already know how it works.

Tue, 06/03/2014 - 10:45 | 4820019 Uncle Remus
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No you can't.

Tue, 06/03/2014 - 03:53 | 4819445 Phuk u
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I have posted this site before and it does have some ideas

on what happenned. I have seen other videos on this and IMHO

it seems that a loud blast is heard at the same time as the plane

fired its rockets. I believe that this is the same loud blast that hit the Luhansk

building. The sound of the car alarms after the blast sound the same in all of the

videos so perhaps it was an anti aircraft missile gone wrong or someone doing

this on purpose to blame the Ukrainian pilot .

Again you can make up your own minds.

 

http://ukraineatwar.blogspot.nl/

Tue, 06/03/2014 - 07:48 | 4819610 BlindMonkey
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You can twist up into logic pretzels if you wish. The simplistic answer is that the plane launched rockets at the building.

Tue, 06/03/2014 - 08:24 | 4819664 TheFourthStooge-ing
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Since he joined ZH in late February, Phuk u has established himself as an anti-Russian paranoiac and an anti-Putin shill. There are indications that he is a net.kook as well.

The only value in his comments is in their potential for cheap humor at his expense.

Tue, 06/03/2014 - 09:13 | 4819779 Phuk u
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Im glad I'm bothering you Stooge. Anti putin yes, paranoid no,

anti russian no. You can value my comments for whatever you wish.

As I have noted before this site is very much pro-putin. I would like to try and 

balance it a little. Unlike the majority of people on this site I visit Ukraine on a 

regular basis. I dont just get my info from various media sources like RT. So

by all means slag me off as much as you want I'm going nowhere.

Tue, 06/03/2014 - 09:42 | 4819858 Phuk u
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What is a net.kook ?

Tue, 06/03/2014 - 10:46 | 4820022 Phuk u
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How many Ruskies we got on Zerohedge ? Stooge waddya reckon ?

 

http://boingboing.net/2014/06/03/russias-army-of-paid-astrotu.html

Tue, 06/03/2014 - 05:00 | 4819483 Harrison
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I'm sure Comrade Putin will be more than happy to arrange that through his proxies.

Just as he did when he blew up several apartment buildings to create a casus belli for his Chechnya war.

Tue, 06/03/2014 - 08:31 | 4819679 SAT 800
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Mindless violence always works well in combatting mindless violence; there are so many successful examples. Thinking might be helpful; you might want to give it a try; it really doesn't give you a headache.

Mon, 06/02/2014 - 22:05 | 4818832 yrad
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Boom goes the dinamite!!

Mon, 06/02/2014 - 22:07 | 4818836 FieldingMellish
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Tyler didn't get the memo. Today was supposed to be all about the POTUS's green energy program. None of this war stuff allowed.

Mon, 06/02/2014 - 22:13 | 4818864 duo
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That explains why CO2smos was on Fox last night.  All CO2, all the time.

To bad his prisoner exchange for a Taliban syncophant didn't get the praise O expected.

Mon, 06/02/2014 - 22:22 | 4818895 john39
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Carbon dioxide scam simplified:

http://www.tomatobubble.com/id594.html

Tue, 06/03/2014 - 00:28 | 4819217 IndyPat
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Speaking of Green...

Did anyone else notice the 'sweet leaf' in the last vid picture...upper left?

What the fuck? Did they bomb a Bob Marley Festival?

That ain't gonna play well in Colorado.....

Tue, 06/03/2014 - 08:05 | 4819636 shovelhead
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Colorado weed farmers love the stuff.

They actually pay to put CO2 in their grow rooms.

Mon, 06/02/2014 - 22:13 | 4818865 john39
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Yeah, really great plan that the nwo has cooked up for all of us.  We get to pay 30% more for fascist controlled green energy, to ke err p those evil plants from having enough co2 to breath.  Clever.

Tue, 06/03/2014 - 08:35 | 4819688 SAT 800
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well, you have to admit; if we just damaged the health of the green plants a little bit; it would cause mass world-wide starvation which would get rid of a lot of useless eaters.

Mon, 06/02/2014 - 23:00 | 4819004 ebworthen
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Ukraine and these war crimes weren't even mentioned on the PBS "News"Hour.

They had a nice long segment on evil coal, global warming, and the E.P.A.

"Freedumb".

Mon, 06/02/2014 - 23:19 | 4819066 COSMOS
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That hag Judy Woodruff and the other hags that take turn on that Publish Bull Shit News Hour are all members of the Council on Foreign Relations.  State of Department of USA Oligarchs Cesspit

Tue, 06/03/2014 - 08:43 | 4819704 SAT 800
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ref; evil coal, globull warmings, and the EPA.---Creationist God---"Well, I gave them brains, but apparently they don't work; I guess I'll just wipe out the whole experiment; maybe if I get around to it, I'll try it again some day".

Mon, 06/02/2014 - 22:10 | 4818847 Seize Mars
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Mon, 06/02/2014 - 23:58 | 4819146 SgtShaftoe
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bonus points for root cause elimination.

Tue, 06/03/2014 - 09:35 | 4819839 MontgomeryScott
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I, did, not, have, sex, with that woman.

(Oh, she's dead? what a pity.)

 

Mon, 06/02/2014 - 22:10 | 4818849 KnuckleDragger-X
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The Ukraine is so last week...

Mon, 06/02/2014 - 22:10 | 4818850 BOPOH
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Thank you my dear american friend for killing me, my mom, and my dad.

Good Bye,

Masha

Mon, 06/02/2014 - 22:21 | 4818891 Crawdaddy
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BOPOH - your delicate yet sarcastic gratitude to the so-called American people is misplaced. The American people do not have any input or control over what our technorats do. Until enough wake up, the ships of state of all nations are all controlled by moronic elistists. Our mission is to awaken our hapless amigos.

Mon, 06/02/2014 - 22:35 | 4818936 Anusocracy
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They want government and are willing to vote for it.

The voters are as guilty as their rulers.

Mon, 06/02/2014 - 22:43 | 4818964 Crawdaddy
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ancient Chinese proverb I just made up: Let us walk before running

Most people BELIEVE they need rulers. Hard to convince them otherwise. Right now all most people want is a ruler that punishes them less than the current ruler.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i0rkgzElRG4

Mon, 06/02/2014 - 23:08 | 4819024 Quus Ant
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99.9% haven't given any thought to it.  Not for a xecond.  They've learned how to function in a madcap world, which is all education ever offered.

Quus Ant:  happy to be the king of fools. 

Mon, 06/02/2014 - 23:22 | 4819070 Cathartes Aura
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'tis sadly true,

Most people BELIEVE they need rulers.

most peoples love to have someone hanging over them, watching, like FatherFigures, so they can get on with

playing in their yards.

and most "rulers" are happy to provide the artificial scenery

for long enough to their "cut" of the monies demanded for

providing the myths of "nationstates".

Tue, 06/03/2014 - 00:45 | 4819247 Hook Line and S...
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Some solitary bees suggest that the best way to change a hive is to change the mind of the worker bee, but their hope was made of honey processed by Monsanto. Drone insects squirming deep in the hive are complicit in their slavery. The need for swarms to submissively lower their antenna is forever.

HLS

Tue, 06/03/2014 - 02:38 | 4819395 BringOnTheAsteroid
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If you manage to somehow believe you have an all encompassing, all powerful invisible ruler (that doesn;t even actually exist) then there's little hope for the human race. These are the sad facts. We are rooted in medieval and superstitious thinking that an educated child understands to be ridiculous. So if only pschologically people are willing to submit to authority that doesn't exist what hope is there when tyrants and psychopaths come along. Collectively we are sort of fucked, that's what. 

Tue, 06/03/2014 - 03:41 | 4819438 franciscopendergrass
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+10000000

Gods, heaven, hell and the need for rulers.  All tools devised by Psychopaths to prey on the rest of humanity.

Tue, 06/03/2014 - 08:28 | 4819672 BringOnTheAsteroid
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Humans are genetically hard wired to be subservient to a master, this harks back to our primordial past. Apes and chimps approach the alpha male with their buttocks raised and presented, the ultimate form of submission. The god nutters that infest this forum are only so because they have been programmed from birth (in most cases) so they feel an intense and deeply internal and personal conviction that what they believe is true. The parodixal thing is that it is true, for them. However they easily confuse theor internal reality with the external world. It's a complex mixture of being brainwashed from a child so the nueral network supporting the god belief is entrenched, they are probably genertically predisposed to ritual and subservience to authority and they have not developed strong critical and logical thinking. It's all pretty damned fascinating really.

Wed, 06/04/2014 - 12:01 | 4823452 Anusocracy
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Most people are still wired to conceptualize survival as survival in the animal world.

We no longer need to live in the animal world, but people still want to.

Tue, 06/03/2014 - 08:46 | 4819711 SAT 800
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Don't worry; "Masha" is going to arrive on a foreign student visa, soon; and buy a sniper rifle." Stand by.

Mon, 06/02/2014 - 22:11 | 4818856 thamnosma
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Absolutely was NOT a bombing.  C'mon.  It doesn't take a trained eye to see someone fired or blew something from street level.  You can also see it larger directly on youtube and just keep stopping the action until the moment of detonation.  Tyler, please, things are bad enough, don't spread such obvious disinfo.

Mon, 06/02/2014 - 22:36 | 4818939 Tracerfan
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Rocket fragments from an SU-25 have been recovered at the site, and video shows rockets striking in multiple succession.

You are a liar or you are gullible.

Mon, 06/02/2014 - 22:37 | 4818943 spacecadet
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Must have been in a car

Mon, 06/02/2014 - 22:50 | 4818980 disabledvet
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Friggin Volvos. I'm buying a Hyundai next time.

Mon, 06/02/2014 - 23:12 | 4819039 Bunga Bunga
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A Chevy Volt? That would be a reasonable explanation.

Mon, 06/02/2014 - 23:19 | 4819062 MarsInScorpio
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Tracer:

 

I vote for liar.

-30-

Mon, 06/02/2014 - 23:59 | 4819150 Taurine
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Russians have been caught red handed tampering with "evidence":

 

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BosTU_TCEAAKV0x.jpg

 

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BowY7QhCcAA2Ift.jpg

 

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Bo8_T2PCAAA-O_t.jpg

 

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Bo6qhKICcAAqKWp.png

 

Did you actually see THIS strike? Or did you see "A" strike?

Tue, 06/03/2014 - 00:10 | 4819178 BlindMonkey
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And Kiev has been caught red handed strangling pregnant women and burning peaceful protesters to death.

Fuck you.

Tue, 06/03/2014 - 00:15 | 4819191 Taurine
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Who told you that? Russia today? I can only assume its about Odessa? "strangling pregnant women and burning peaceful protesters to death." Nice to see that you forgot to mention those Russians that shot(and killed) Ukrainian unity rally members which sparked all of this in Odessa. 

Tue, 06/03/2014 - 00:59 | 4819262 BlindMonkey
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LOL. You are fun. Have you not seen these guys with the special armbands standing next to the police and those same armbands on the building tops?

Go get a real job instead of soaking up tax money sitting at your troll booth spouting complete shit.

Tue, 06/03/2014 - 01:06 | 4819272 Taurine
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Yeh you mean like this "peaceful" Russian in Odessa shooting with AK?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p4-wBYNeuAs

Yup nothing to see here, banderas everywhere. Carry on I heard Kiselev today is on Russia 24.

Tue, 06/03/2014 - 01:45 | 4819333 NickVegas
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It's weird, as soon as humans are dying somewhere, the wraiths appear out of the fog, hoping to incite more deaths, more war, sent by their masters, errand boys, death and debt for all.

Tue, 06/03/2014 - 00:29 | 4819219 xavi1951
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ZH is over-run by liberals that think we can all coexist.  Living in a dream.  How many Russian operatives we killed?  They don't care because it doesn't fit their liberal view of USA BAD, RUSSIA GOOD!

Tue, 06/03/2014 - 03:46 | 4819443 OldPhart
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I don't expect to coexist with Russian agents.

I don't even expect to survive WW3.

What I want is for my crimimal government to get out of duplicious agreements abroad.  I want my military focused on our boarders and those traitors in government.

We have no business in the Ukraine or the Balkins.  We settled this in WWII.  Our criminal government needs to meet the guillotine within the next election cycle.

Tue, 06/03/2014 - 01:25 | 4819301 Volkodav
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 PBS ?

Tue, 06/03/2014 - 03:45 | 4819441 COSMOS
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public broadcasting tv

not for profit tv in major cities funded by combo of public donations, govt grants, and ads

Tue, 06/03/2014 - 04:59 | 4819482 Flagit
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I'm going to guess he knew that.

I think it was more the fact that PBS is funded by the Rockefeller Foundation.

Tue, 06/03/2014 - 10:52 | 4820049 Uncle Remus
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."not for profit" - that's rich

Mon, 06/02/2014 - 22:36 | 4818940 spacecadet
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I agree, replayed it over and over, could have been a car bomb, but looked like ground level

Mon, 06/02/2014 - 23:56 | 4819140 SAT 800
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Thank god we have prefessional military ordinance photgraphy interpretation experts like you here to conclude, "it could have been a car bomb". The internet; a place where anyone can type anything no matter how ridiculous it is.

Tue, 06/03/2014 - 00:06 | 4819169 bunzbunzbunz
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To be fair, it's about as ridiculous as stating which government entity is responsible for the bombing, whatever type it may be. 

Tue, 06/03/2014 - 09:12 | 4819778 SAT 800
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T he Kiev government admitted it was their plane; and merely claimed the mess on the ground was caused by bad peoples trying to shoot it down with their hand held rubber band guns. Do you have a reading difficulty?

Tue, 06/03/2014 - 02:50 | 4819405 PhilofOz
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I want to scream "Idiot!!!", but will just take a few deep breaths instead. That done, what is there to say? I see four consecutive hits, all in a horizontal line, extending what, 40 metres at least? You can't be that stupid as to call this a car bomb, so by any sort of logic and commonsense, you have to be just a paid shill here to sow disinformation.  

Mon, 06/02/2014 - 22:37 | 4818942 Millivanilli
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Clusterbomb 

 

http://puu.sh/9bPYK/71e0ae4ece.gif

 

Now eat shit and die, fucker.

Mon, 06/02/2014 - 22:56 | 4818996 BlindMonkey
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Zoomie rockets. It was not a cluster bomb. The multiple blasts are bigger than cluster bombs and it is consistent with multiple smoke trails coming from the plane.

Here is a brief about cluster bombs. I think you would have seen more but smaller explosions with a cluster bomb.

http://youtu.be/qGwMYEDDRTc

Mon, 06/02/2014 - 23:14 | 4819045 Morla
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Yeah, and it looks like half the rockets landed in a public park. Most people in the U.S. might not see the video, but you can bet everyone in East Ukraine is going to see it one way or another. Everyone in Russia too. I wonder if they think whatever damage they did to their actual target was worth it.

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