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Ukraine Considers Declaring Martial Law In Donetsk, Luhansk
As the bloody violence drifts off the mainstream media's headlines in the US - but escalates on the ground - it appears the situation has grown serious enough to prompt further intervention in the separatist-held south and east regions:
- *UKRAINE CONSIDERS DECLARING MARTIAL LAW IN DONETSK, LUHANSK
- *ACTING PRES. TURCHYNOV ISSUES ORDER ON STUDYING MARTIAL LAW
We suspect, following the over-running in Donetsk today that these actions will awaken Putin from his recent slumber... making this week's D-Day celebrations even more tense.
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Martial law? That outta go a long ways towards winning the hearts and minds.
pods
Has Obama weighed in on the constitutionality of martial law in Ukraine?
Obama: What? Martian law? Whatever. I'm off to hole 7.
Did not these regions vote for independence not too long ago? What say does Ukraine have in their former regions?
Once upon a time a group of states tried to secede and form the Confederacy in North America. we all know how that worked out.
Yeah, 600,000 young dead men in their prime.
Minor distinctions, for what it's worth (which may be nothing).
US North did not overthrow the government (which technically is allowed under the Purpose of US Constitution - Declaration of Independence).
Ukraine's North overthrew the Gov, which technically is not allowed by Ukraniane Constitution.
This martial law is to justify killing the civillians. They can say well they were supposed to stay inside their houses for 23 hours a day and not walk around the city, so we are not responsible if they get blown to bits.
OK Vlad - it's put up, or shut up, time.
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The USA wants him dragged into a long term conflict on his doorstep that could destabilize his country if they get fed up with being in a long drawn out war. The intention of the west is to destroy Russia economically (nuclear they can't without repercussions). Why play into their gameplan. Most of the success lies in picking your field of battle. So why should Putin fight on their terms. He can wait and do battle on his terms. If he heats up the conflict even more than it already is there will be many more dead than now. He can give them aid and let the USA and its coup goons make themselves look like the Evil IMF Goons they are. It is a lesson for the world and it can only strengthen the Russians if they dont play the game the USA wants to play.
Eventually the little kids on the playground get fed up with the bully and unite to kick his ass. When that happens the dollar is gone. Putin just has to let the world see and get fed up with the bullying of the USA.
Other way around. Putin wants the U.S. fully committed in the Uke and he's a patient man.
The US war industry needs a new enemy. Al Cia-da just isn't dangerous enough to keep people in fear. Americans don't see Syria or Iran as a real threat.
They can't depend on CNN and Fox News to sow panic anymore because nobody listens to them.
For some reason, they don't have the courage to stage another 911. I wonder why. They just stage these wimpy little false flags like Boston and Sandy Hook.
They've chosen Russia and China as the new enemies. Putin has to keep from responding to their provocations or he falls into their little trap.
However, the Confederate states did not attempt to rejoin Britain
Neither has East Ukraine. They want a Federalization of Ukraine.
Obama has to ask Jamie and Lloyd what he thinks about this.They have their arms up his ass working his mouth like a puppet
When you have military aircraft firing on armed and unarmed citizenry, I think declaring martial law is more of a semantic point than anything.
As for the news drifting out of the mainstream - when your team, a trained regular force with mixed motivation funded by the IMF, is snatching defeat from the jaws of victory it is an unwelcome story.
What, you mean the hearts and minds of the Chechen and Russian "volunteers" who have been rushing over the border to suppress opposition er beat up unreconstructed counterrevolutionaries er liberate their comrades in Ukrainian Soviet Socialist Republic er New Russia?
buy stocks/sell treasuries...it's all bullish :0
Aren't you supposed to declare martial law BEFORE you have your troops slaughter your own people?
Martial law wasn't declared before Waco and Ruby Ridge...
Martial law wasn't declared before Waco and Ruby Ridge...
Those were not military actions, they were criminal actions.
You believe what you are saying?
I don't know all the facts about Ruby Ridge, but considering the government COULD have quietly picked up Koresh during any of his numerous forays off the compound, I'd say yes, the government fucked up badly.
They certainly were! The FBI committed murder in both cases!
Free Lon Horuchi!!
Why all this fucking Ukraine news? That was last week's story man, nobody cares what's happening in the Ukraine anymore...
Right on! Til now, only bullish!
I flipped through mainstream channels for about 30 minutes yesterday. Not a squeak about Ukraine. BBC is ferociously fixating on FIFA World Cup like it's World War 3.
Well, you have to admit, the Ukrainians have done a terrible job with this civil war - the story line's incoherent, the characters are thinly developed at best - bizarre cartoon caricatures at worst, and really the whole plot's just been dragging for quite some time. I mean, the whole opening episode with the Crimea was compelling and it looked like it was going to be a barn-burner, but it's really fallen apart since then. No wonder the media's dropped it.
The problem is all the Mafia oligarchs look alike to me.
Is that racist?
Everybody knows Ukraine was part of the Soviet Union not too long ago.
Pretty amazing considering how ignorant Americans usually are about world affairs.
Most people I've talked to think we should just butt out of Ukraine.
Only the terminally ignorant accept the official story.
White House official: "Dude, this was like two weeks ago."
Uhm? But isn't Donetsk independent now? So it all depends on whether the local Donetsk military is going to listen to Kiev.
No.
Torunaga: "There are no 'mitigating circumstances' when it comes to rebellion
against a sovereign lord."
Anjin San: "Unless you win." -- Shogun, James Clavell
The Nobel Prize Winner spreading sweetness and light everywhere. He does not have any spare drones for the women and children of Donetsk and Luhansk?
i am certain he would love to burn up some women and children with hellfire missles rained down from drones... just need a bit more propaganda before he could sell it the american sheeple.
Now, now fellow patriot. Our drones are like hugs from above. To be bombed is a priviledge because we're full of fuzzy love for the little people. Since they started hating us for our freedoms, we've had to reach out like a stern Daddy and Stern Daddy doesn't like bad boys. So paddle, paddle, paddle! See how well you learn? It hurts Daddy more than it hurts you as your eyes pop out from the percussion. We just touch you in the morning and walk away like the Wichita Lineman killing you softly with our song bomb.
Both Ukraine has a Chocolate Dick and USA has a Chocolate Dick as supreme leader.
Some call them dictators.
Ukraine - Chocolagarch
US - N*****
The more countries under martial law....the more bullish the stock market! The market, after today's very intense and deep sell-off (lol), will fully recover to new highs tomorrow! buy buy buy.....
Martial Law?
Whet the hell does this joker think all the troops he has sent are, exactly?
That's why they need to study it. To figure out what the real difference would be.
Nothing suggesting bullish when you are looking at todays volume in the market. Across the board it's about 50% lighter than the average. I suppose Thursday's ECB outlook is going to influence today's trading and people are simply waiting for more news.
How can Kiev declare martial law in areas it does not control?
How can Kiev declare martial law in areas it does not control?
How can Kiev declare martial law in areas it does not control?
How can Kiev declare martial law in areas it does not control?
How can Kiev declare martial law in areas it does not control?
How can Kiev declare martial law in areas it does not control?
I SHALL NEVER DECLARE MARTIAL LAW IN DONETSK AGAIN.
I SHALL NEVER DECLARE MARTIAL LAW IN DONETSK AGAIN.
I SHALL NEVER DECLARE MARTIAL LAW IN DONETSK AGAIN.
I SHALL NEVER DECLARE MARTIAL LAW IN DONETSK AGAIN.
I SHALL NEVER DECLARE MARTIAL LAW IN DONETSK AGAIN.
Hey Putin, you could stop this butchery in ten minutes with one squadron of SU27s doing a sweep over Kiev. Why are you letting your Slavic brothers get butchered by these nazi pigs.
That is the biggest mistery indeed. Had the independent regions received immediate support, more would be inclined to follow in their footsteps. Instead Putin urged Donetsk and Luhansk to postpone their referendums. Maybe he's taking it slow. Maybe the naval port was of primary interest and less value was seen in other regions. Maybe he want to maintain the buffer zone without risking unnecessary exposure.
When Stalin was pushing Nazi forces back west in WW2, he paused at Polish and Romanian borders. He knew that both countries harbored local Nazi collaborators and wanted the local militia and partisans to thin out their numbers. Many enouraging radio broadcasts were sent, yet no support action was taken.
As long as the separatists are putting up a meaningful resistance, Putin can wait, gathering his case. The information war is already won, as indicated by the total media blackout in the West. The new acting president as well as the interim one have war crimes on their hand worthy of a tribunal. What else does Russia need in order to advance?
Maybe they're waiting for winter. That's when things will get real interesting. Maybe he plans on delivering the final blow without firing a single weapon by switching off oil and gas. I quite honestly don't know what the strategy is. I was expecting a Georgian scenario, but it hasn't taken place.
It would also be a costly move on the Russian Federation, just the finanicals would be worrisome for anyone building forces on other borders like Syria and the ME in general. Can the USA realistically fight on multiple fronts, today I doubt it and the sames goes for Russia, certainly.
Finanicals are at the heart of holding back for sure, if someone owed you 2,000,000,000,000+ US$ in backdated fuel allocation, invading them is the easyiest way to wipe that debt slate clean as they'll use it right away as an excuse to not pay a tyrant.
Only real outcome I see is a long drawn out Proxy war. Here in the UK, my local military base has been so busy since April, even as I write this; a Chinook is flying over with some serious looking hardware. They've been training with lots of chopper flights at night and I guess soon enough Euroland will be awoken in need no doubt and those guys will be off to defend something, not sure what as from those pictures I've seen in Donetsk, they're to late...
Could definitely be about money. Look at what $5bn bought the CIA - a country out of control. What does the $17bn IMF loan buy? Nothin. Few more months of gas with funds going straight to Russia.
The lessons of Afghanistan and Chechnya must still be friesh in Russian memory. The first one contrinuted greatly to the USSR insolvency. The 2nd one proved that just like in US - Korean conflict, it made more sense to conquer the land economically. Russia and Chechnya are on speaking terms 10 years after the war. With Afghanistan 25 years later - not so much.
The West will be more cooperative when the cold weather hits. That's why it is important for them, as well as for Kiev to act now... yet what can they do realistically?
Sending aged equipment to be shot down by the poorly armed separatists for pennies on the dollar? Sure, the casualties are significant on both sides, but if viewed strictly in terms of spending, Ukrane spends 1000:1 trying to control the Eastern territories. It is already bankrupt, relying solely on US and IMF handouts.
Georgian troops had all-American combat geat and even then they were squashed within a week. If the same gear (of which there is some) makes it to the front lines, the Western strategy will be irreversibly exposed. So they keep sending the last remaining piles of junk.
There are British tanks on the ground. There is Lithuanian UAV support, but both are forced to stay far away from the action. All the West can do is train Ukrainians for suicide missions. The Neo-nazi's got beheaded shortly after the coup and now they're raging out of control, attacking pro-Russians and pro-Westerners alike. I have friends living north of Kherson and almost on the border near Lviv. They are afraid - afraid of the instability that they recall was last present in the early 90's. They don't even say which side they're afraid of. It's just not safe with all the thugs running around.
The joke going around is that another Maidan or two and whole of Ukraine with the exception of Kiev will beg for annexation. The capital is a very different place from the rest of Ukraine.
Very accurate. up one.
Maybe Putin isn't stupid.
I'm SURE he knows he is being egged on. That the west would LOVE to see him go all aggressive. All he has to do is refuse to be lead into it...eventually the west will get so crazy that THEY will overplay their hand, and do something really stupid.
Then Putin can act, in RESPONSE to our actions as opposed to as an aggressor.
Who was it who said, "Never interrupt your enemy while he is making a mistake."?
Exactly. That's what Fletcher Prouty says the Secret Team does all the time. Provoke their enemies until they nake an overt counter move.
It's like in the NFL. It isn't the guy who throws the first punch who gets flagged, it's the guy who punches back.
"The only winning move is not to play."
Hearts and minds... lessons in Chechnya v.2 were learned.
What's martial law? Is that where goons arbitrarily demand to see your papers before they let you by?
So it's kind of like suburban Connecticut then?
Or anywhere within 100 miles of a US border or coastline. They routinely stop the Amtrak "Empire Builder" in the middle of nowhere in Montana and go through on papers sweeps. My mother and sister, on separate trips, have been caught up in this.
you don't need papers if you cross our southern border
Ukraine and the West will do whatever it takes to push Putin into war.
And the Western press will cover for them all the way.
A criminal coup government declaring martial law? Funny that is.
The USA has outdone itself by funding and supporting this Euro Maidan Right Sector gang. Do they really believe they are going to rule Ukraine at gun point? As long as Obama is a Ukrainian nazi, it looks possible they might get enough money and weapons to kill on a grand scale. Killing to spread freedom and deomcracy. The IMF ordered this military operation, and the IMF is to be obeyed. Bankers are now able to declare wars, now how do you like that?
when does the candyman take over? that would be a true test of where this is going...
I thought a few weeks ago that maybe this whole thing was starting to settle and a major war was avoidable...
but it's looking like I was wrong.
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#NATO has taken steps to enhance the defence of Allies following #Russia ’s illegal military intervention in #Ukraine . As part of the measures, NATO has deployed AWACS planes over Poland and Romania, sent ships on patrol to the Baltic and Mediterranean Seas, and deployed additional fighter jets to police the airspace over the Baltics.
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BRUSSELS -- NATO's top official says the alliance will finalize a package to reform and modernize Ukraine's armed forces following Russia's annexation of the ex-Soviet republic's Crimea territory.
NATO Secretary-General Anders Fogh Rasmussen made the announcement on June 3 following a meeting of defense ministers from NATO's 28 member countries in Brussels.
"In the weeks to come we will finalize a comprehensive package of long-term measures to make Ukraine's reforms more effective and its armed forces stronger," he said.
Rasmussen declined to give details about the measures under consideration, but said he was encouraged that in addition to NATO assistance, individual members of the alliance have volunteered advisory and technical assistance, as well as material support, to Ukraine.
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U.S. President Barack Obama says the United States plans to bolster its military presence in Europe by sending in more troops and equipment.
At a joint news conference in Warsaw with Polish President Bronislaw Komorowski, Obama added that he was calling on the U.S. Congress to provide up to $1 billion to support the effort.
The move comes amid concern among NATO's Eastern European members in the wake of Russia's threatening moves in Ukraine.
Russia's response?
another large scale war drill in the west and this time they are rolling the Iskander nuclear capable missile systems to the Polish border...
looks like the last few weeks were really just the calm before the storm, the deep breath breath before the final plunge.
at the very least Washington and NATO seem determined to push Putin to the point where he has no choice but to strike first. in which case the resulting war could be billed as "reactionary" and "defensive" and sold to the public as such, you know "we didn't ask for this" type of thing much like WW2. of course, Russian military doctrine supports a nuclear first strike in such situations and Washington knows this, but hey if you have to burn a few million serfs in the pursuit of greater geopolitical ambitions so be it.
it's not like they haven't done it before.
hedge accordingly.
I agree entirely Marcusfenix. This isn't going away. Why waste a good opportunity for war???
I feel for the Ukrainians as they think they are fighting for their homeland and freedom (some of them are I know) who, are just normal people who have been forced into this war because of the US Hedgemony Corporation.
Putin in my mind seems damned if he does and damn if he doesn't which, if I'm correct makes it a VERY dangerous situation.
Option #1 Does he nip this in the bud and take over the Ukraine up to the Dneiper River?? What is really in it for him if he does that?? Not much that I can see. He will set off WW3 and be painted as the aggressor who started the whole oncoming war. Maybe??? this move could work as some type of buffer for his military and country in general by using the captured land as a defensive zone of some sort but, I am not savvy enough to know that.
Option #2 He does nothing! If he chooses this option he is giving the US and NATO all the time they need to build up their forces and time to work on strategy. If he chooses this option in time he will look weak maybe to his own people and politically lose support. As well, if NATO does instigate a "Bay of Tonkin' like event and NATO make the "Honourable Move of Regrettable War with Russia" what option will he have left but Nukes?? None! as I see it.
I am just a pleb but I feel that with modern weapon systems and a never ending US Dollar the longer he waits he is damned and if he acts aggressively he is damned.
The only other option maybe? is to fight a guerilla war in Ukraine which may keep the NATO Hyena's at bay but cause him and his people untold and never ending pain.
I see the US/NATO holding all the cards. They are all Hearts Kings Queens Jacks and Aces plus a few up the sleeve. They own the media hence the commentary, they own time at this point anyway and, they are all planning a vicious act of treason against all humanity but, they are also driving this whole thing.
Putin, in my mind can't win in any way. But, I hope I'm wrong and, I hope Putin isn't pushed in to a corner where he feels that Nuclear weapons are his only real option.
Nato's just playing the game. They don't believe it will excalate into nuclear war. Even though they say they coule win a nuclear war, even they are not that stupid. They just want a new enemy to justify expense expenditures. And of course, to distract the peons.
They are running out of time, and if Putin was prune to 'nip it in the bud', he would have acted in Kiev long ago. If he wants to draw in NATO into exposing themselves completely, he merely sits back and waits... it takes most people alot of catalyst to realize the mess they're in and react as 'guided' by self-interest against those seeking to take them back to the 'good ole days' of being peons. At this point, Putin has to allow those people enough time to feel the pain, allow Kiev/NATO to force feed them with BS and anal probes until they squirm like the Russians did in the 90s. Putin knows how to utilize the silent persuaders if he so chooses to release some of the pressure in the cooker at times. I would be suprised if there weren't some free lance types leading a helping hand currently in the East and in the not so distant future, Kiev itself, just in time to welcome in the new oligarch of NATO's choice. In short, bleed them dry. This is what the USofA has done countless times in its history, recently in Iraq and elsewhere with their black op agents of chaos, Al CIAda and its many friends on the false flag front of global domination. Time is running out. Hard to get an exact fix on that date, was hoping for this year, but it seems I was a bit greedy and next year, the end of the cycle, will have to do.
Chaos isn't only man-made, Big Momma has a cyclical cleanup crew ready and always willing to do what's necessary.
I really don't see NATO and US holding all the cards
The bear is waiting for them t walk further into the trap
Their may be more pain then expected, but not nuke
I agree, this is all about the money
-Why there is no Russian military intervention in the Ukraine, vineyard saker
Against this background, the Americans easily force the signing of their version of the Transatlantic Trade and Investment Partnership, a trade pact, which turns the EU into an appendage of the U.S. economy. Negotiations about the treaty are going on right now and, for the Americans, the entry of Russian troops in Ukraine would be a huge gift. Sanctions against Russia would destroy European business and trade barriers with the U.S. would finish it. What we have at the end: EU in a state as if after a war; the United States, all in white, joyfully absorbing European markets on which they have not and will not have competitors; the Russian Federation - not in the best shape. Does it seem to anyone that someone in this situation is the fool (???), and that that someone is clearly not the U.S.? By the way, it is not necessary to take into account the arguments to the effect that European politicians would not allow economic suicide. Euro-bureaucrats are not capable even of this, as practice shows.
Bombshell from the Saker:
"Very interesting admission by a senior US diplomat: Russia "betrayed" the NWO"
http://vineyardsaker.blogspot.com.au/2014/06/very-interesting-admission-...
It has been my point all along that Putin is a pimple on the ass of the NWO globalists. That's why George Soros writes articles demonising him and all the Zionist media is on the "get Putin" campaign.
How is Turchy still in office? When do they coronate the chocolate king?
what is martial law
what is it's connection with the empire of the city of london.
try a google map of temple in london try street view nothing.
an area of london that is foreign and still has martial law
funny old rothschild world
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pKpREmP-vUw&list=UUldfvyaPuBSpw8iDmUgZwnA