1 In 4 Obamacare Signups Are Faulty - But, We Are Sure Obama Never Knew Anything About It Until Now

Tyler Durden's picture

While the administration unabashedly argued that they would not hand out taxpayer cash subsidies to anyone who didn't verify income on... it seems once again, they lied. 9 months later and AP reports that 2 million of the Obamacare sign-ups have data discrepancies that could jeopardize coverage for some, a government document shows. Direct from the HHS itself, AP adds that several congressional committees are actively investigating the discrepancies, most of which involve important details on income, citizenship and immigration status. The farce is complete as no resolution looks likely anytime soon - "Current system access and functionality...limits the ability to resolve outstanding inconsistencies." Of course, this is the first that Obama would have heard about it (from AP) and a probe of this SNAFU will begin immediately...


As AP reports,

More than 2 million people who got health insurance under President Obama's law have data discrepancies that could jeopardize coverage for some, a government document shows.


About 1 in 4 people who signed up have discrepancies, creating a huge paperwork jam for the feds and exposing some consumers to repayment demands, or possibly even loss of coverage, if they got too generous a subsidy.


The 7-page slide presentation from the Health and Human Services department was provided to The Associated Press as several congressional committees are actively investigating the discrepancies, most of which involve important details on income, citizenship and immigration status.




Responding to the document, administration officials expressed confidence that most of the discrepancies can be resolved over the summer. Nonetheless, HHS has set up a system to "turn off" benefits for anyone who is found to be ineligible.




The document provided to AP said that 2.1 million people enrolled through the new health insurance exchanges were "affected by one or more inconsistency" as of the end of April.


The exchanges offer subsidized private coverage to lower-income and middle-class people with no access to health care on the job. The sliding-scale subsidies are based on income and family size, and are also affected by where a person lives. Because they are structured as tax credits, the Internal Revenue Service can deduct any overpayments from a taxpayer's refund the following year.


Under the law, only citizens and legal immigrants are entitled to subsidized coverage.


Updated numbers provided by Bataille indicate that the total number of people affected remains about the same as a month ago. About 1.2 million have discrepancies related to income; 505,000 have issues with immigration data, and 461,000 have conflicts related to citizenship information.




The HHS document provided to AP, dated May 8, describes a laborious effort to try to resolve the data problems, largely requiring hands-on work from a legion of workers employed by government contractor Serco, Inc.


"Current system access and functionality...limits the ability to resolve outstanding inconsistencies," said the document. "A phased approach is proposed, initially leveraging manual processes."


Atop the priority list are citizenship and immigration issues, then annual income.


The House Ways and Means Committee will hold hearings next week on the data issues affecting eligibility for health care benefits. The HHS inspector general is expected to deliver a report to Congress later this summer on how well the administration is doing at preventing inaccurate payments and fraud.

What a farce...

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ParkAveFlasher's picture

Szechuan click farms ftmfw

Greenskeeper_Carl's picture

if i fill up an apmex shopping cart with a few thousand in gold and silver but never enter my card number, does that mean i still have them in my safe?

localsavage's picture

Gee....I didn't see this coming

hedgeless_horseman's picture



3.95 out of 4 have no idea that they have to pay the giant fucking deductible first, before geting treatment, then a huge co-insurance.

JLee2027's picture

There's a deductible?

I didn't know. LOL

hedgeless_horseman's picture



3.98 out of 4 have no idea that no specialists in their city signed up for the ACA plans because of the crappy fee schedules, so they will be paying steep out-of-network amounts to receive care.

NoDebt's picture

Why you being such a Negative Nacy, HH?  It's all good.  Untimately it's paid for with money poofed out of thin air by the Fed anyway.  This should help significantly hasten the collapse.

And here you are talkign like there's no pony in this thing anywhere!

g'kar's picture

I've heard that illegals are having no problems getting their free care in emergency rooms. What's the problem?

GetZeeGold's picture



I sure hope at least one person got insurance that didn't have it before...cause it sure screwed up all the rest of our lives.

American Dreams's picture

Nothing will be done.  The law is passed and will be changed at will by the ruler through executive action as his handlers see fit.  Its with us until the end, it will morph and change and doctors will go black market or be reduced to public servants.  The talent pool will dry up and in the end we will have a medical system very similar to the UK and its territories.  Private medical care for the "elite" and a nationalized version for the majority mostly administered through emergency services.  Not all that hard to see.

These are all american dreams


A Lunatic's picture

I've been telling everyone you choked to death on some organic collard greens......

hedgeless_horseman's picture




With all the rain this spring, we are definitely long greens, veggies, and root crops.

A Lunatic's picture

Excellent. Glad to see you are in good health. I made a huge batch of rhubarb syrup last week. I'm thinking of attempting some rhubarb pickles.........

Atomizer's picture

No joke. You and Mrs. Atomizer need to swap recipes. I’m off this beef diet until my heart gets better. This is what she shouts at me. In the meantime, she is the best woman in the world. Just saying OK goes a long way.

I contracted bronchitis, then high blood pressure.  She thinks it’s my diet. Go will the flow. We don’t buy EBT Beef. She knows four languages and can cook like an iron chief.  I love her. When it comes to ZH postings.. she still thinks it’s Marketwatch not ZeroHedge.

Just as always, humor. I had 75-80 seconds to post a HFT ZH thought. Now, after two shouts, I have 45 -50 seconds to complete my HFT thought and hit the send button. Just got busted again.. She loves you guys/ladies. Unfortunately, she rips a new asshole by stringing me to get off MW. Bear Sterns/ Lehman Brothers. I had plane tickets to ship them out of the country.  She said no. Weathering the storm..

Here we are today. Weathering the next wave of storm. She will support SC/FL.  OH has gone off track.

Houses’ are up for sale. Dear IRS Rag heads, trust fund. Collect from IBM, Apple or GE if if you need new capital returns.


hashtag your bullushit on central planning failure,



Bro of the Sorrowful Figure's picture

it's not the beef. it's the grains, which im assume youre still eating a bunch of. dont want to play doctor here but let me state it this way. the government says that grains are good, fats are bad, and red meat is bad. youre on this site so you know that the government is evil and wants to kill you. the FDA, UDSA food pyramid is part of the effort to kill you and make you stupid. if you think that conventional wisdom is correct with respect to diet, youre DEAD wrong. just look around at all the morbidly obese sheeple following that diet. youre already partially woken up, now wake the fuck up to the fact that government approved food that youre putting in your body is lethal.

go to marksdailyapple.com

go low carb, high fat. lots of green veggies, grass fed meat, wild fish, eggs, avocados, some cheese + other clean dairy like greek yogurt or cottage cheese. ZERO grains and ZERO processed food. that's what's causing bronchitis and high blood pressure. you probably need to manage your insulin, which is done by severe carbohydrate restriction for a couple weeks, followed by a maximum of 100 - 150 grams a day. google ketosis, try to get into it.

youre welcome.

Bro of the Sorrowful Figure's picture

Doug McGuff: fitness, health, and liberty. well worth the hour.


RafterManFMJ's picture

WTF is this da duck a bill? I'm here's a see doctor, NOW! My Obama care is free!! You git that dock out here, now! - your average 'vote for a living' Obama supporter.

earnyermoney's picture

exactly. Insurance companies wrote the law to generate profits. Take money in, pay none out.

NoTTD's picture



That's a thing?   Ooooh, boy!

Joe Davola's picture

Citizenship issues at the top of the list - the jokes just write themselves sometimes.

icanhasbailout's picture

I saw it coming before anyone else did. Proof: http://thebullelephant.com/it-cant-be-fixed/

Look at the date on that. It may seem wild, but back then, not even Obamacare's fiercest opponents were calling it like I did.


Groundhog Day's picture

all these investigations into these mishaps will surely get the the economy to full employment.  .gov can just hire everyone to be investigators.  one big fuckin clusterfuck

Da Yooper's picture


you are using common core liberal butt head math


you do

drendebe10's picture

Don't worry.... the ruling elected political elite turds voted to exempt themselves from this:


age 22  of the HC Bill:  Mandates that the Govt  will audit books of all employers that  self-insure!!

Page 30 Sec 123  of HC bill:   THERE WILL BE A GOVT  COMMITTEE that decides what treatments/benefits  you get.

Page 29 lines 4-16 in  the HC bill: YOUR HEALTH CARE IS  RATIONED!!!

Page 42 of HC  Bill:  The Health Choices Commissioner  will choose your HC benefits for you. You have  no choice!

Page 50 Section 152  in HC bill: HC will be provided to ALL  non-US citizens, illegal or  otherwise.              

Page  58 HC Bill:  Govt will have real-time  access to individuals' finances & a  'National ID Health card' will be  issued! (Papers  please!)

Page  59 HC Bill lines 21-24:  Govt will have  direct access to your bank accounts for elective  funds transfer. (Time  for more cash and carry)

Page 65  Sec 164: Is a payoff subsidized plan for  retirees and their families in unions &  community organizations:  (ACORN).

Page 84 Sec 203 HC  bill: Govt mandates ALL benefit packages  for private HC plans in the  'Exchange.'

Page 85 Line  7 HC Bill:  Specifications of Benefit  Levels for Plans -- The Govt  will ration your health  care!

Page 91 Lines 4-7  HC Bill: Govt mandates linguistic  appropriate services.  (Translation:  illegal aliens.)

Page 95  HC Bill Lines 8-18: The Govt will use  groups (i.e. ACORN & Americorps to sign up  individuals for Govt HC  plan.

Page 85 Line 7 HC  Bill: Specifications of Benefit Levels  for Plans. (AARP members - your health care WILL  be rationed!)
Page 102  Lines 12-18 HC Bill:  Medicaid eligible  individuals will be automatically enrolled in  Medicaid.  (No choice.)

Page  12 4 lines 24-25 HC: No company can sue  GOVT on price fixing. No "judicial review"  against Govt monopoly.

Page 127  Lines 1-16 HC Bill: Doctors/ American  Medical Association - The Govt will tell YOU  what salary you can make.

Page  145 Line 15-17: An Employer MUST  auto-enroll employees into public option  plan. (NO choice!)

Page  126 Lines 22-25: Employers MUST pay for  HC for part-time employees ANDtheir  families.  (Employees shouldn't get excited  about this as employers will be forced to reduce  its work force, benefits, and wages/salaries to  cover such a huge  expense.)

Page 149 Lines  16-24: ANY Employer with payroll 401k  & above who does not provide public option  will pay 8% tax on all payroll!  (See the  last comment in  parenthesis.)
Page 150  Lines 9-13: A business with payroll  between $251K & $401K who doesn't provide  public option will pay 2-6% tax on all  payroll.

Page 167 Lines  18-23: ANY individual who doesn't have  acceptable HC according to Govt will be taxed  2.5% of income.

Page 170 Lines  1-3 HC Bill: Any NONRESIDENT Alien is  exempt from individual taxes.  (Americans will pay.) (Like  always)

Page  195 HC Bill: Officers & employees of  the GOVT HC Admin..  will have access  to ALL Americans' finances and  personal records. (I guess  so they can 'deduct' their  fees)

Page 203  Line 14-15 HC: "The tax imposed under  this section shall not be treated as tax."   (Yes, it really says  that!) ( a  'fee' instead)
Page 239  Line 14-24 HC Bill: Govt will reduce  physician services for Medicaid Seniors.   (Low-income and the poor are  affected.)

Page 241  Line 6-8 HC Bill: Doctors: It doesn't  matter what specialty you have trained yourself  in -- you will all be paid the same! (Just TRY  to tell me that's not  Socialism!)

Page 253 Line  10-18: The Govt sets the value of a  doctor's time, profession, judgment, etc.   (Literally-- the value of  humans.)

Page 265 Sec 1131:  The Govt mandates and controls productivity for  "private" HC industries.

Page  268 Sec 1141: The federal Govt regulates the  rental and purchase of power driven  wheelchairs.

Page 272 SEC.  1145: TREATMENT OF CERTAIN CANCER HOSPITALS -  Cancer patients - welcome to  rationing!

Page 280 Sec 1151:  The Govt will penalize hospitals for whatever  the Govt deems preventable  (i.e...re-admissions).

Page 298 Lines  9-11: Doctors: If you treat a patient during  initial admission that results in a re-admission  -- the Govt will penalize  you.

Page 317 L 13-20:  PROHIBITION on ownership/investment. (The Govt  tells doctors what and how much they can  own!)

Page 317-318 lines  21-25, 1-3: PROHIBITION on expansion.  (The  Govt is mandating that hospitals cannot  expand.)
Page 321  2-13: Hospitals have the opportunity to apply  for exception BUT community input is required.   (Can you say  ACORN?)

Page 335 L 16-25 Pg  336-339: The Govt mandates establishment of=2  outcome-based measures. (HC the way they want --  rationing.)
Page 341  Lines 3-9: The Govt has authority to disqualify  Medicare Advance Plans, HMOs, etc.   (Forcing people into the Govt  plan)

Page 354 Sec 1177: The  Govt will RESTRICT enrollment of 'special needs  people!'    Unbelievable!

Page  379 Sec 1191: The Govt creates more bureaucracy  via a "Tele-Health Advisory Committee."   (Can you say HC by  phone?)

Page 425 Lines 4-12:  The Govt mandates "Advance-Care Planning  Consult."  (Think senior citizens  end-of-life patients.)

Page  425 Lines 17-19: The Govt will instruct and  consult regarding living wills, durable powers  of attorney, etc.  (And  it's mandatory!)
Page 425  Lines 22-25, 426 Lines 1-3: The Govt provides an  "approved" list of end-of-life resources;  guiding you in death. (Also called 'assisted  suicide.')(Sounds  like Soylent Green to  me.)

Page  427 Lines 15-24: The Govt mandates a program for  orders on "end-of-life."  (The Govt has a  say in how your life  ends!)

Page 429 Lines 1-9: An  "advanced-care planning consultant" will be used  frequently as a patient's health  deteriorates.

Page 429 Lines  10-12: An "advanced care consultation" may  include an ORDER for end-of-life plans..   (AN ORDER TO DIE FROM THE  GOVERNMENT?!?)

Page 429  Lines 13-25: The GOVT will specify which doctors  can write an end-of-life order..  (I  wouldn't want to stand before God after getting  paid for THAT job!)   

Page 430  Lines 11-15: The Govt will decide what level of  treatment you will have at end-of-life!   (Again -- no  choice!)

Page 469:  Community-Based Home Medical Services =  Non-Profit Organizations.  (Hello?   ACORN Medical Services  here!?!)

Page 489 Sec 1308:  The Govt will cover marriage and family therapy.   (Which means Govt will insert itself into  your marriage even.)

Page  494-498: Govt will cover Mental Health Services  including defining, creating, and rationing  those services.

NoTTD's picture

Even this list is too long to read, much less the bill itself.

RafterManFMJ's picture

O the weather out-side is frightful;
Depressed GDP
And ObamaKare deductibles
While HFT front-runners churn!
So let it burn let it burn let it burn...

ljag's picture

Are we the people still considered "the government"?

/sarc off

g'kar's picture

Page whatever, Free {RFID} chips and dip.

kchrisc's picture

Obamacare also creates the "legal" structure for the formation of a DC US SS. Yes, the Nazi SS.

The SS was the PRIVATE army of the Nazi party. They were not a military agency/department of government.

This is what the Boston Boom hoax was about. Just the first false-flags that will "require" the full-scale spawning of this monstrosity. Are you ready?!


H.R. 3590 now Public Law 111-148 ^ | March 2010 | Congress, Obama

SEC. 5210. ESTABLISHING A READY RESERVE CORPS. Section 203 of the Public Health Service Act (42 U.S.C. 204) is amended to read as follows: ‘‘SEC. 203. COMMISSIONED CORPS AND READY RESERVE CORPS. ‘‘(a) ESTABLISHMENT.— ‘‘(1) IN GENERAL.—There shall be in the Service a commissioned Regular Corps and a Ready Reserve Corps for service in time of national emergency. ‘‘(2) REQUIREMENT.—All commissioned officers shall be citizens of the United States and shall be appointed without regard to the civil-service laws and compensated without regard to the Classification Act of 1923, as amended. ‘‘(3) APPOINTMENT.—Commissioned officers of the Ready Reserve Corps shall be appointed by the President and commissioned officers of the Regular Corps shall be appointed by the President with the advice and consent of the Senate. ‘‘(4) ACTIVE DUTY.—Commissioned officers of the Ready Reserve Corps shall at all times be subject to call to active duty by the Surgeon General, including active duty for the purpose of training. ‘‘(5) WARRANT OFFICERS.—Warrant officers may be appointed to the Service for the purpose of providing support to the health and delivery systems maintained by the Service and any warrant officer appointed to the Service shall be considered for purposes of this Act and title 37, United States Code, to be a commission

(Excerpt) Read more at frwebgate.access.gpo.gov ...

g'kar's picture

He probably will fill the jobs with foreign troops so he can pin medals on them with this executive order:


Executive Order -- Expanding Eligibility for the Defense Meritorious Service Medal

By the authority vested in me as President by the Constitution and the laws of the United States of America, it is hereby ordered as follows:

Executive Order 12019 of November 3, 1977 (Establishing the Defense Meritorious Service Medal), is amended by inserting ", or to any member of the armed forces of a friendly foreign nation," after "any member of the Armed Forces of the United States".


April 18, 2014.

what's that smell's picture

thanks for the relevant information; it seems the zhedge basement is thriving whilst the zhedge itself is winking at the big banks and the pentagon (uhhhhh,....bofam, goldsaks, jpm, stratfor, hate russia, love austerity, hate .gov etc)

SDShack's picture

Can't wait until the US Surgeon General declares the Desert Tortoise critical for Human Health, and Cattle dangerous to Human Health, then unleashes the HC Nazis to protect us from the "freeloaders" and their "gun totin militias".

Silver Bug's picture

Epic fail! Who would of thunk it? Perhaps everyone with two brain cells?



young turk's picture

we are soooo fuked

kchrisc's picture

Like the "gimp" in Pulp Fiction.

dontgoforit's picture

Cloward-Piven at work on your future, and your children's.

crazybob369's picture

This is shocking!  Shocking, I tell you!

Peter Pan's picture

If Obamacare is faulty why wouldn't the sign ups be faulty as well?

de3de8's picture

Keep printing

cherry picker's picture

What does one expect from an over educated community organizer.  He couldn't run a small business if he tried and they voted him in as President?

There is also a lack of integrity and a high degree of hypocrisy in the white house and other government institutions.

Is it no wonder congress has favorable ratings lower than your local street walker?

When will the people wake up and fire him and the others?

Peter Pan's picture

Only those that hired him can fire him. The American people had little to do with his election.

MassDecep's picture

Sad but true Peter! You can vote to your hearts content; it is already determined.

MisterMousePotato's picture

I gave you an angry down twinkle. If I could, I would have red arrowed you a thousand times ... even understanding and conceding your point; viz., that "[t]he American people" were manipulated into this.

True enough. The problem is defining 'the American people'. What does it mean to "be an American?" Yes, legally, anyone born here is "an American." They get to vote. Drive. Suck off the taxpayer. Etc.

Defining American thus, you are wrong. Dead wrong. In fact, the American people had everything, every single thing, to do with his election. (You can go back and find an observation made at the time by the then Czechoslavakian President about the import of that, and what a travesty it was.)

If you define American, though, as someone sharing the values and vision of the Founding Fathers, well, then, maybe you're right. On the other hand, when asked what form of government they had created, Jefferson replied, "A Republic ... if you can keep it." (Or words to that effect.)

Looks like we couldn't. Even us Americans.

what's that smell's picture

i played Angry Down Twinkle last night.

my bieber still hurts.

Raging Debate's picture

MisterMousePotatoe - The founders didn't expect us to even get this far. They built the 2nd ammendment in knowing it would come to violence. Always has, always will. Human nature and all.

Consider the order of Bunker Hill: "Don't shoot until you see the whites of there eyes". Long range tech advantages are scary then as now but in the end it requires boots on the ground to secure resources and revenue streams. Enough said.

SDShack's picture

How do you know 0zer0 is over educated when he won't release his college transcrips, or anything else about himself?

A Nanny Moose's picture

"The only people who don't wanna disclose the truth, are people with something to hide." - 0'Bozo

Ignatius's picture

I'm imagining a Pelosi 2012 GTxi hitting a brick wall at 50mph, as if it could ever obtain such a terrifying speed.

Seeking Beta's picture

HAHAHA - This fucking President cracks me up every day

mayhem_korner's picture



Data discrepancies like: "Porky Pig" is not your correct name and 123-45-6789 is not your correct SS#?

I wonder if they took the data base of dead, imaginary, and repeat voters and signed them all up.