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1 In 4 Obamacare Signups Are Faulty - But, We Are Sure Obama Never Knew Anything About It Until Now
While the administration unabashedly argued that they would not hand out taxpayer cash subsidies to anyone who didn't verify income on... it seems once again, they lied. 9 months later and AP reports that 2 million of the Obamacare sign-ups have data discrepancies that could jeopardize coverage for some, a government document shows. Direct from the HHS itself, AP adds that several congressional committees are actively investigating the discrepancies, most of which involve important details on income, citizenship and immigration status. The farce is complete as no resolution looks likely anytime soon - "Current system access and functionality...limits the ability to resolve outstanding inconsistencies." Of course, this is the first that Obama would have heard about it (from AP) and a probe of this SNAFU will begin immediately...
More than 2 million people who got health insurance under President Obama's law have data discrepancies that could jeopardize coverage for some, a government document shows.
About 1 in 4 people who signed up have discrepancies, creating a huge paperwork jam for the feds and exposing some consumers to repayment demands, or possibly even loss of coverage, if they got too generous a subsidy.
The 7-page slide presentation from the Health and Human Services department was provided to The Associated Press as several congressional committees are actively investigating the discrepancies, most of which involve important details on income, citizenship and immigration status.
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Responding to the document, administration officials expressed confidence that most of the discrepancies can be resolved over the summer. Nonetheless, HHS has set up a system to "turn off" benefits for anyone who is found to be ineligible.
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The document provided to AP said that 2.1 million people enrolled through the new health insurance exchanges were "affected by one or more inconsistency" as of the end of April.
The exchanges offer subsidized private coverage to lower-income and middle-class people with no access to health care on the job. The sliding-scale subsidies are based on income and family size, and are also affected by where a person lives. Because they are structured as tax credits, the Internal Revenue Service can deduct any overpayments from a taxpayer's refund the following year.
Under the law, only citizens and legal immigrants are entitled to subsidized coverage.
Updated numbers provided by Bataille indicate that the total number of people affected remains about the same as a month ago. About 1.2 million have discrepancies related to income; 505,000 have issues with immigration data, and 461,000 have conflicts related to citizenship information.
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The HHS document provided to AP, dated May 8, describes a laborious effort to try to resolve the data problems, largely requiring hands-on work from a legion of workers employed by government contractor Serco, Inc.
"Current system access and functionality...limits the ability to resolve outstanding inconsistencies," said the document. "A phased approach is proposed, initially leveraging manual processes."
Atop the priority list are citizenship and immigration issues, then annual income.
The House Ways and Means Committee will hold hearings next week on the data issues affecting eligibility for health care benefits. The HHS inspector general is expected to deliver a report to Congress later this summer on how well the administration is doing at preventing inaccurate payments and fraud.
What a farce...
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if i fill up an apmex shopping cart with a few thousand in gold and silver but never enter my card number, does that mean i still have them in my safe?
Gee....I didn't see this coming
3.95 out of 4 have no idea that they have to pay the giant fucking deductible first, before geting treatment, then a huge co-insurance.
There's a deductible?
I didn't know. LOL
3.98 out of 4 have no idea that no specialists in their city signed up for the ACA plans because of the crappy fee schedules, so they will be paying steep out-of-network amounts to receive care.
Why you being such a Negative Nacy, HH? It's all good. Untimately it's paid for with money poofed out of thin air by the Fed anyway. This should help significantly hasten the collapse.
And here you are talkign like there's no pony in this thing anywhere!
I've heard that illegals are having no problems getting their free care in emergency rooms. What's the problem?
I sure hope at least one person got insurance that didn't have it before...cause it sure screwed up all the rest of our lives.
Nothing will be done. The law is passed and will be changed at will by the ruler through executive action as his handlers see fit. Its with us until the end, it will morph and change and doctors will go black market or be reduced to public servants. The talent pool will dry up and in the end we will have a medical system very similar to the UK and its territories. Private medical care for the "elite" and a nationalized version for the majority mostly administered through emergency services. Not all that hard to see.
These are all american dreams
AD
I've been telling everyone you choked to death on some organic collard greens......
With all the rain this spring, we are definitely long greens, veggies, and root crops.
Excellent. Glad to see you are in good health. I made a huge batch of rhubarb syrup last week. I'm thinking of attempting some rhubarb pickles.........
No joke. You and Mrs. Atomizer need to swap recipes. I’m off this beef diet until my heart gets better. This is what she shouts at me. In the meantime, she is the best woman in the world. Just saying OK goes a long way.
I contracted bronchitis, then high blood pressure. She thinks it’s my diet. Go will the flow. We don’t buy EBT Beef. She knows four languages and can cook like an iron chief. I love her. When it comes to ZH postings.. she still thinks it’s Marketwatch not ZeroHedge.
Just as always, humor. I had 75-80 seconds to post a HFT ZH thought. Now, after two shouts, I have 45 -50 seconds to complete my HFT thought and hit the send button. Just got busted again.. She loves you guys/ladies. Unfortunately, she rips a new asshole by stringing me to get off MW. Bear Sterns/ Lehman Brothers. I had plane tickets to ship them out of the country. She said no. Weathering the storm..
Here we are today. Weathering the next wave of storm. She will support SC/FL. OH has gone off track.
Houses’ are up for sale. Dear IRS Rag heads, trust fund. Collect from IBM, Apple or GE if if you need new capital returns.
hashtag your bullushit on central planning failure,
Winks
it's not the beef. it's the grains, which im assume youre still eating a bunch of. dont want to play doctor here but let me state it this way. the government says that grains are good, fats are bad, and red meat is bad. youre on this site so you know that the government is evil and wants to kill you. the FDA, UDSA food pyramid is part of the effort to kill you and make you stupid. if you think that conventional wisdom is correct with respect to diet, youre DEAD wrong. just look around at all the morbidly obese sheeple following that diet. youre already partially woken up, now wake the fuck up to the fact that government approved food that youre putting in your body is lethal.
go to marksdailyapple.com
go low carb, high fat. lots of green veggies, grass fed meat, wild fish, eggs, avocados, some cheese + other clean dairy like greek yogurt or cottage cheese. ZERO grains and ZERO processed food. that's what's causing bronchitis and high blood pressure. you probably need to manage your insulin, which is done by severe carbohydrate restriction for a couple weeks, followed by a maximum of 100 - 150 grams a day. google ketosis, try to get into it.
youre welcome.
Doug McGuff: fitness, health, and liberty. well worth the hour.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8j8qDwR56DA
WTF is this da duck a bill? I'm here's a see doctor, NOW! My Obama care is free!! You git that dock out here, now! - your average 'vote for a living' Obama supporter.
exactly. Insurance companies wrote the law to generate profits. Take money in, pay none out.
"Deductible"?
That's a thing? Ooooh, boy!
Citizenship issues at the top of the list - the jokes just write themselves sometimes.
I saw it coming before anyone else did. Proof: http://thebullelephant.com/it-cant-be-fixed/
Look at the date on that. It may seem wild, but back then, not even Obamacare's fiercest opponents were calling it like I did.
all these investigations into these mishaps will surely get the the economy to full employment. .gov can just hire everyone to be investigators. one big fuckin clusterfuck
If
you are using common core liberal butt head math
you do
Don't worry.... the ruling elected political elite turds voted to exempt themselves from this:
age 22 of the HC Bill: Mandates that the Govt will audit books of all employers that self-insure!!
Page 30 Sec 123 of HC bill: THERE WILL BE A GOVT COMMITTEE that decides what treatments/benefits you get.
Page 29 lines 4-16 in the HC bill: YOUR HEALTH CARE IS RATIONED!!!
Page 42 of HC Bill: The Health Choices Commissioner will choose your HC benefits for you. You have no choice!
Page 50 Section 152 in HC bill: HC will be provided to ALL non-US citizens, illegal or otherwise.
Page 58 HC Bill: Govt will have real-time access to individuals' finances & a 'National ID Health card' will be issued! (Papers please!)
Page 59 HC Bill lines 21-24: Govt will have direct access to your bank accounts for elective funds transfer. (Time for more cash and carry)
Page 65 Sec 164: Is a payoff subsidized plan for retirees and their families in unions & community organizations: (ACORN).
Page 84 Sec 203 HC bill: Govt mandates ALL benefit packages for private HC plans in the 'Exchange.'
Page 85 Line 7 HC Bill: Specifications of Benefit Levels for Plans -- The Govt will ration your health care!
Page 91 Lines 4-7 HC Bill: Govt mandates linguistic appropriate services. (Translation: illegal aliens.)
Page 95 HC Bill Lines 8-18: The Govt will use groups (i.e. ACORN & Americorps to sign up individuals for Govt HC plan.
Page 85 Line 7 HC Bill: Specifications of Benefit Levels for Plans. (AARP members - your health care WILL be rationed!)
Page 102 Lines 12-18 HC Bill: Medicaid eligible individuals will be automatically enrolled in Medicaid. (No choice.)
Page 12 4 lines 24-25 HC: No company can sue GOVT on price fixing. No "judicial review" against Govt monopoly.
Page 127 Lines 1-16 HC Bill: Doctors/ American Medical Association - The Govt will tell YOU what salary you can make.
Page 145 Line 15-17: An Employer MUST auto-enroll employees into public option plan. (NO choice!)
Page 126 Lines 22-25: Employers MUST pay for HC for part-time employees ANDtheir families. (Employees shouldn't get excited about this as employers will be forced to reduce its work force, benefits, and wages/salaries to cover such a huge expense.)
Page 149 Lines 16-24: ANY Employer with payroll 401k & above who does not provide public option will pay 8% tax on all payroll! (See the last comment in parenthesis.)
Page 150 Lines 9-13: A business with payroll between $251K & $401K who doesn't provide public option will pay 2-6% tax on all payroll.
Page 167 Lines 18-23: ANY individual who doesn't have acceptable HC according to Govt will be taxed 2.5% of income.
Page 170 Lines 1-3 HC Bill: Any NONRESIDENT Alien is exempt from individual taxes. (Americans will pay.) (Like always)
Page 195 HC Bill: Officers & employees of the GOVT HC Admin.. will have access to ALL Americans' finances and personal records. (I guess so they can 'deduct' their fees)
Page 203 Line 14-15 HC: "The tax imposed under this section shall not be treated as tax." (Yes, it really says that!) ( a 'fee' instead)
Page 239 Line 14-24 HC Bill: Govt will reduce physician services for Medicaid Seniors. (Low-income and the poor are affected.)
Page 241 Line 6-8 HC Bill: Doctors: It doesn't matter what specialty you have trained yourself in -- you will all be paid the same! (Just TRY to tell me that's not Socialism!)
Page 253 Line 10-18: The Govt sets the value of a doctor's time, profession, judgment, etc. (Literally-- the value of humans.)
Page 265 Sec 1131: The Govt mandates and controls productivity for "private" HC industries.
Page 268 Sec 1141: The federal Govt regulates the rental and purchase of power driven wheelchairs.
Page 272 SEC. 1145: TREATMENT OF CERTAIN CANCER HOSPITALS - Cancer patients - welcome to rationing!
Page 280 Sec 1151: The Govt will penalize hospitals for whatever the Govt deems preventable (i.e...re-admissions).
Page 298 Lines 9-11: Doctors: If you treat a patient during initial admission that results in a re-admission -- the Govt will penalize you.
Page 317 L 13-20: PROHIBITION on ownership/investment. (The Govt tells doctors what and how much they can own!)
Page 317-318 lines 21-25, 1-3: PROHIBITION on expansion. (The Govt is mandating that hospitals cannot expand.)
Page 321 2-13: Hospitals have the opportunity to apply for exception BUT community input is required. (Can you say ACORN?)
Page 335 L 16-25 Pg 336-339: The Govt mandates establishment of=2 outcome-based measures. (HC the way they want -- rationing.)
Page 341 Lines 3-9: The Govt has authority to disqualify Medicare Advance Plans, HMOs, etc. (Forcing people into the Govt plan)
Page 354 Sec 1177: The Govt will RESTRICT enrollment of 'special needs people!' Unbelievable!
Page 379 Sec 1191: The Govt creates more bureaucracy via a "Tele-Health Advisory Committee." (Can you say HC by phone?)
Page 425 Lines 4-12: The Govt mandates "Advance-Care Planning Consult." (Think senior citizens end-of-life patients.)
Page 425 Lines 17-19: The Govt will instruct and consult regarding living wills, durable powers of attorney, etc. (And it's mandatory!)
Page 425 Lines 22-25, 426 Lines 1-3: The Govt provides an "approved" list of end-of-life resources; guiding you in death. (Also called 'assisted suicide.')(Sounds like Soylent Green to me.)
Page 427 Lines 15-24: The Govt mandates a program for orders on "end-of-life." (The Govt has a say in how your life ends!)
Page 429 Lines 1-9: An "advanced-care planning consultant" will be used frequently as a patient's health deteriorates.
Page 429 Lines 10-12: An "advanced care consultation" may include an ORDER for end-of-life plans.. (AN ORDER TO DIE FROM THE GOVERNMENT?!?)
Page 429 Lines 13-25: The GOVT will specify which doctors can write an end-of-life order.. (I wouldn't want to stand before God after getting paid for THAT job!)
Page 430 Lines 11-15: The Govt will decide what level of treatment you will have at end-of-life! (Again -- no choice!)
Page 469: Community-Based Home Medical Services = Non-Profit Organizations. (Hello? ACORN Medical Services here!?!)
Page 489 Sec 1308: The Govt will cover marriage and family therapy. (Which means Govt will insert itself into your marriage even.)
Page 494-498: Govt will cover Mental Health Services including defining, creating, and rationing those services.
Even this list is too long to read, much less the bill itself.
O the weather out-side is frightful;
Depressed GDP
And ObamaKare deductibles
While HFT front-runners churn!
So let it burn let it burn let it burn...
Are we the people still considered "the government"?
/sarc off
Page whatever, Free {RFID} chips and dip.
Obamacare also creates the "legal" structure for the formation of a DC US SS. Yes, the Nazi SS.
The SS was the PRIVATE army of the Nazi party. They were not a military agency/department of government.
This is what the Boston Boom hoax was about. Just the first false-flags that will "require" the full-scale spawning of this monstrosity. Are you ready?!
SEC. 5210. ESTABLISHING A READY RESERVE CORPS
H.R. 3590 now Public Law 111-148 ^ | March 2010 | Congress, Obama
SEC. 5210. ESTABLISHING A READY RESERVE CORPS. Section 203 of the Public Health Service Act (42 U.S.C. 204) is amended to read as follows: ‘‘SEC. 203. COMMISSIONED CORPS AND READY RESERVE CORPS. ‘‘(a) ESTABLISHMENT.— ‘‘(1) IN GENERAL.—There shall be in the Service a commissioned Regular Corps and a Ready Reserve Corps for service in time of national emergency. ‘‘(2) REQUIREMENT.—All commissioned officers shall be citizens of the United States and shall be appointed without regard to the civil-service laws and compensated without regard to the Classification Act of 1923, as amended. ‘‘(3) APPOINTMENT.—Commissioned officers of the Ready Reserve Corps shall be appointed by the President and commissioned officers of the Regular Corps shall be appointed by the President with the advice and consent of the Senate. ‘‘(4) ACTIVE DUTY.—Commissioned officers of the Ready Reserve Corps shall at all times be subject to call to active duty by the Surgeon General, including active duty for the purpose of training. ‘‘(5) WARRANT OFFICERS.—Warrant officers may be appointed to the Service for the purpose of providing support to the health and delivery systems maintained by the Service and any warrant officer appointed to the Service shall be considered for purposes of this Act and title 37, United States Code, to be a commission
(Excerpt) Read more at frwebgate.access.gpo.gov ...
He probably will fill the jobs with foreign troops so he can pin medals on them with this executive order:
Executive Order -- Expanding Eligibility for the Defense Meritorious Service MedalBy the authority vested in me as President by the Constitution and the laws of the United States of America, it is hereby ordered as follows:
Executive Order 12019 of November 3, 1977 (Establishing the Defense Meritorious Service Medal), is amended by inserting ", or to any member of the armed forces of a friendly foreign nation," after "any member of the Armed Forces of the United States".
BARACK OBAMA
THE WHITE HOUSE,
April 18, 2014.
thanks for the relevant information; it seems the zhedge basement is thriving whilst the zhedge itself is winking at the big banks and the pentagon (uhhhhh,....bofam, goldsaks, jpm, stratfor, hate russia, love austerity, hate .gov etc)
Can't wait until the US Surgeon General declares the Desert Tortoise critical for Human Health, and Cattle dangerous to Human Health, then unleashes the HC Nazis to protect us from the "freeloaders" and their "gun totin militias".
Epic fail! Who would of thunk it? Perhaps everyone with two brain cells?
http://ericsprott.blogspot.ca/
we are soooo fuked
Like the "gimp" in Pulp Fiction.
Cloward-Piven at work on your future, and your children's.
This is shocking! Shocking, I tell you!
If Obamacare is faulty why wouldn't the sign ups be faulty as well?
Keep printing
What does one expect from an over educated community organizer. He couldn't run a small business if he tried and they voted him in as President?
There is also a lack of integrity and a high degree of hypocrisy in the white house and other government institutions.
Is it no wonder congress has favorable ratings lower than your local street walker?
When will the people wake up and fire him and the others?
Only those that hired him can fire him. The American people had little to do with his election.
Sad but true Peter! You can vote to your hearts content; it is already determined.
I gave you an angry down twinkle. If I could, I would have red arrowed you a thousand times ... even understanding and conceding your point; viz., that "[t]he American people" were manipulated into this.
True enough. The problem is defining 'the American people'. What does it mean to "be an American?" Yes, legally, anyone born here is "an American." They get to vote. Drive. Suck off the taxpayer. Etc.
Defining American thus, you are wrong. Dead wrong. In fact, the American people had everything, every single thing, to do with his election. (You can go back and find an observation made at the time by the then Czechoslavakian President about the import of that, and what a travesty it was.)
If you define American, though, as someone sharing the values and vision of the Founding Fathers, well, then, maybe you're right. On the other hand, when asked what form of government they had created, Jefferson replied, "A Republic ... if you can keep it." (Or words to that effect.)
Looks like we couldn't. Even us Americans.
i played Angry Down Twinkle last night.
my bieber still hurts.
MisterMousePotatoe - The founders didn't expect us to even get this far. They built the 2nd ammendment in knowing it would come to violence. Always has, always will. Human nature and all.
Consider the order of Bunker Hill: "Don't shoot until you see the whites of there eyes". Long range tech advantages are scary then as now but in the end it requires boots on the ground to secure resources and revenue streams. Enough said.
How do you know 0zer0 is over educated when he won't release his college transcrips, or anything else about himself?
"The only people who don't wanna disclose the truth, are people with something to hide." - 0'Bozo
I'm imagining a Pelosi 2012 GTxi hitting a brick wall at 50mph, as if it could ever obtain such a terrifying speed.
HAHAHA - This fucking President cracks me up every day
Data discrepancies like: "Porky Pig" is not your correct name and 123-45-6789 is not your correct SS#?
I wonder if they took the data base of dead, imaginary, and repeat voters and signed them all up.
It's the Chinese hackers who signed up "people" with false information to crash the system.
No. Ooh, ooh. I know this one. It was Evil Russian Hackers working at the behest of Vladamir Hitler.
OT: has anyone had trouble viewing bbc articles concerning Obamas speeches on Ukraine while in Poland? There are a couple from today's site that fail to load. Flickering browser waiting for transfer of data. This happens only for stories on Ukraine.
RTTV is giving complete repeat coverage of Barry's gunship diplomacy, including his astonishing war-mongering threat to 'return Crimea to Ukraine'.
Barry is indifferent - he just does what he wants without much consideration. Barry knows most of this crap will blow up.
This also hammers on Billary's run in 2016 and Barry knows it.
Infighting communists - what else is new.
How can a nation that carries such a deadly array of weaponry be so messed up? Or has it become messed up by the arrogance of having such a deadly collection?
Gee, I wonder if he's reading the paper today...
Signup for my benefits in 2013, check.
Estimate income on my tax return due in 2015, check.
What could go wrong?
Thank you ZeroHedge for keeping our leader informed. You do a great service for America.
Typical response:
"You mean *I* have to actually PAY for my healthcare?!"
"You mean *I* have to actually PAY for my healthcare?!"
"You mean *I* have to actually PAY for my sickcare?!"
Fixed it fer ya.
Ain't no "healthcare" in 'merika, other than you yourself taking care of your health.
" HHS has set up a system to "turn off" benefits for anyone who is found to be ineligible."
But I wasn't even "turned-on."
About the only good thing that you can say about Barry is that the next guy or girl elected to his spot will be even worse.
These levels of eorror are probably unheard off in historical American government. One must wonder if picking up the pieces after Bury is gone will be possible? This is corruption that rivels the prohibition era where the pay-offs were so monumental and prevasive that Congress was afraid of passing curative acts for fear of becoming criminally involved. The Whitehouse is the seat of a criminal gang.
Obamacare is just bunch of busted #KillerAlgorithms no matter which way you look. Unlike market algorithms that do work together and scew you out of money, healthcare has a captive audience and doesn't need high frequency thus so you the algorithms don't have to work together to screw you, or kill you.
http://ducknetweb.blogspot.com/2014/03/obamacare-one-big-attack-of-kille...
We are a nation of Stat Rats and sometime that's good and sometimes not and it is a lot of data but with all the other tech lies being the case, do we believe it or not as the Sebelius Syndrome runs wild, even though she resigned and is still out there talking and has her title on Twitter. Many more have the affliction and see what the White House did here below.
We have the climate bill and how could they put in print that in one year if this goes into effect we will have 3300 fewer heart attacks and 100k fewer asthma attacks? Like nuts pulling number out of the sky and it will do more to hurt credibility for the bill than help..we're not that stupid and you can't quantitate everything..and on Twitter Sebelius was there to retweet this:)
http://ducknetweb.blogspot.com/2014/06/junk-science-appearing-everywhere...
Sad to see the government resort to Junk Science when they need to build some credibility.
Utter bullshit. We need to start taxing the so called, Federal insituational banking cabal. How will they continue printing untaxed money? Once the taxpayers money is in recirculation, their theft structure is minimized.
And controlled.
http://ca.judiciary.gov.ph/index.php?action=cardis&inc=cardis2&y=2012&m=10&p=y
And of those who are leftover, who hasn't paid their premium? Mission accomplished Obama!
Reggie (on the can): "1 in four healthscare signups is faulty, according to this article."
Mugabe: (on knees) "Slurp slurp slurp."
Reggie: "Ahhhhhhh! Ohhhh! Uh, did you hear me, bumpkins?"
Mugabe: "Slurp slurp--that's why I have you read the paper. Slurp slurp."
Signing up is the easy part, making the monthly payments is a whole other story
Wait till one of these poor pricks have a heart attack or are in need of medicine at CVS and there is no money to be had.
At no point, does Obama Adminstration knew what Obama Administration is doing.
We have to pass the bill to see what's in it.
We have to pass the stool to see what's in it.
Clusterfuck Administration. 5.5 years and it feels so, so much longer. If a day passes w/o an Obomber fuckup, it just make tomorrow look all the more darker.
All according to plan...