This page has been archived and commenting is disabled.
US Air Force Sends 2 B-2 Stealth Bombers To The UK
With call-signs "Death 11" and "Death 12", we suspect the deployment by the US Air Force of 2 B-2 Stealth Bombers to the UK's RAF base in Fairford is for anything but simple sight-seeing. As The Aviationist notes, B-2s don’t move from Whiteman AFB, in Missouri, too often as they are trained to conduct very long round-trip missions from their homebase; which is why the deployment of two Spirit bombers with the 509th Bomb Wing to the UK is, at least, noteworthy. The question is... what will Putin's retaliatory sabre-rattle be?
The B-2s landing in Fairford (via @miket_343 )
...overseas deployments of the Spirit stealth strategic bombers are quite unusual.
Indeed, B-2s don’t move from Whiteman AFB, in Missouri, too often as they are trained to conduct very long round-trip missions from their homebase in CONUS (Continental U.S.), as happened during recent training missions, extended nuclear deterrence sorties in the Korean Peninsula, as well as during real conflicts, as the Libya Air War in 2011 or the Allied Force in Serbia in 1999.
That’s why the deployment of two Spirit bombers with the 509th Bomb Wing to the UK is, at least, noteworthy.
Obviously, the official press release doesn’t mention the rarity of this “short-term deployment,” as it only mentions that the “multi-role heavy bombers will conduct training flights in the USEUCOM area of operations, providing opportunities for aircrews to sharpen skills in several key operational sets and become familiar with airbases and operations in the region.”
Little is known about this deployment, unlike the other one which involves three B-52s that have arrived at RAF Fairford last week and whose detachment had been exposed by aircrew patches produced ahead of the participation of the Stratofortresses to the Saber Strike and Baltops exercises.
“The training and integration of strategic forces demonstrates to our nation’s leaders and our allies that we have the right mix of aircraft and expertise to respond to a variety of potential threats and situations,” said Adm. Cecil Haney, commander, U.S. Strategic Command in the release.
For sure, the Russian threat in Europe is taken seriously by the USSTRACOM, that may have decided to deploy some strategic assets closer to Ukraine, more to show the local allies that Washington is capable to support them if needed rather than put some pressure on Moscow.
But, but... but... the markets are at all-time-highs so there can't be any "risks" to worry about?
»
- 22209 reads
- Printer-friendly version
- Send to friend
- advertisements -
But Lagarde got on her knees and apologized.
:P
We're fucking insane if we even remotely think we can take on the Russians and expect Afghani style opposition.
If this shit goes the wrong way, we all lose. I feel especially sorry for the Polish - who will be used as cannon fodder again.
If SHTF, it will be interesting to see whos side the Germans take. My bet, if they/we have learned from history at all -- is the Russian side, but time will tell.
We, Americans, are apparently suicidal.
EDIT - Putin's response "Oh yeah, its NBD, we copied that shit like 10 years ago -- we have 30 of them in Cuba. Your move shithead."
Exellent idea. Give the Russian air defence a chance to learn more about the B2 radar signiture.
What do they need the radar signature for? Doesn't that fancy S-400 track heat anomalies in the atmosphere? AKA – B2 exhaust?
S-400 on B2? No good sport. You have to give the prey some chance to make it.
All those "odd" people just standing at the runway's end to watch all the busy busy (not) military aircraft..."
Whiteman AFB? WHITEMAN AFB!!!!! Apparently, they didn't get the memo.
"We're fucking insane if we even remotely think we can take on the Russians and expect Afghani style opposition. "
Let's not get antsy. This means there's a goat-fucker to be blown up somewhere, and it requires deploying a $1billion aircraft to do it. Sadly.
If you want to delve further into the insanity of the execute branch today, we can speculate on the weight of the carcas, whether we released him for a bag of fig-newtons or just for the hell of it, and what the officially sanctioned twitter hash-tags will be if we dig the wrong hole in the wrong spot.
Oh, for heaven's sakes, the boys need flight time...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ZCp5h1gK2Q
You guys have got it all wrong. These are flying cargoes of re-re-hypothecated gold from vault to vault, staying just ahead of the auditors, who keep experiencing mysterious delays (while the cargoes get unloaded and trucked at high speed to the vault they're about to inspect).
Yea, but stealth doesn't work...
Haus-Targaryen
Tranny-in-chief is driving this show. I forget about the exhaust signature.
his or the planes?
Who is it that makes our missile engines again, because we don't know how? hmmm. something that began with an R. whatever.
Or pig-on-the-wing flatulence.
Hope it's not to mess with the gyrascope, those things will plow you straight into the ground.
""The question is... what will Putin's retaliatory sabre-rattle be?"
All the russians have to do is sit back and wait. They will see them coming with those WW2 radars
Don't be a prat.
You have mistaken me for the wrong kind of ass. I'm a smart ass.
Apparently not particularly smart.
Lets see how an American air attack on Russia works out.
+ 100
It has historically sucked to be a country suck between Germany and Russia
Lebensraum. You're talking about Lebensraum.
You are just a fucking hump, I'll put my money on the US and you can go crawl behind your mommies skirt. BTW no fucking chance Germany sides with the dogs of the East. You do know where Konigsberg is don't you? Just a fucking hump.
Konigsberg might become Krolewiec if RuSSia starts fucking around too much.
-Albert EinsteinWe need to drag out ol' Al's quote on everyone of these threads.
If shit truly hits the fan, which side you are on will make absolutely ZERO difference.
There won't be any canon fodder, just food for radioctive cockroaches.
If things go nuke, just find a way to off yourself quickly and painlessly.
As for Americans being suicidal, I'd disagree.
The psychopaths running the place are the problem (This applies pretty much globally, I'm not really singling out Americans)
By the way Putin is in the psychopath club, Obama's in it, David Cameron, Merkel - the whole fucking lot.
If aliens swing by earth in the distant future they'll laugh their arses off if they figure out what went on here.
The Russians have been expecting this. Watch this 11 minute Russian Television Clip from June 1, 2014.
http://rt.com/shows/the-truthseeker/162864-us-plans-strike-russia/
interesting vid from RT
that ought to cause lots of panic in Russia
planned first strike in 2016?
anyway, sure showing off muscle, hope some one doe not screw up
if the movement of the planes was a secret then this would be noteworthy and alarming, that its public knowledge means this is all for show and really means nothing
There is usually a big air show at Fairford in July, I have been a couple of times.
thank you, oh voice of sanity...
http://www.airtattoo.com/airshow/visiting/about-the-air-tattoo/lookingba...
On the other hand... Almost everything is public knowledge nowadays.. Either leaked or shared through valuable blog sites. Many people are simply not ready to believe it (conspiracy, etc, ...). Or they simply don't have the mental capacity to do their own research. That's sad and irreversible. Never in history did a failing country allow their decline without a retaliation. Financial sanctions have obviously failed, now Anglo-americans will have to come up with something else. Something bigger, logically. I sincerely hope they'll skip the war scenario. Based on current state of our financial system, we cannot blame brics and others to wave Western Disneyland goodbye and start their own model. It's simply irrational. Therefore, I think a "soft landing" is not feasible. I really hope it is possible, but I think it is not.
At the risk of sounding like a broken record....
Countries are fictions designed to break the herd up into easily manageable groups to be used against each other so that they never fight against the bastards that are fucking them over on a daily basis.
If you ever see a face uttering words, you know they are not the true power, just the facade.
Wake the fuck up.
Yes, all signs have been leading to war for months.
There are no Oreos in the bombers. If you want cookies then you better start praying.
Is that what she was doing?
Good luck with that. Here is Pierre Sprey talking about how the F-35 is a piece of shit and that stealth is way way oversold. Sprey has said the old WW2 RAF long wave radar can see stealth and the Russians can see stealth.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mxDSiwqM2nw
Sprey worked with two colonels to help get the the lower cost F-16 and A-10 built. The F-16 is still probably the best USA fighter jet. The Air Force hated the A-10 because it cost less than $10 million and they do not like doing ground support.
Stealth is a joke and the Russians can and will see it.
Pray for those air crews if they encounter S400 or the new S500.
The Russians have some of the best software coders in the world. Meanwhile, the software code for the F-35 turkey is F'ed up. I guess they used lots of H1Bs from India.
Neither bombers or the air defense systems have ever been combat tested and neither will work as well as hoped. If things go boom the BUFF's and other "obsolete" aircraft will carry the load.
Freddie - this is all true that F35 is a POS and visible on radars operating within specific spectrum. Russians and all major armies have these radars for a long time - so I am surprised that anyone is still surprised.
However - to think that any fighter jet (F35 or other) will fly into area with working radars is a major fault in logic. This is not how it works. Radars will be destroyed first and then the fighters will fly into the enemy territory. Hence, most if not all RuSSian radars will be taken out within first minutes of hostilities, regardless whether they are stationary or mobile.
I am not defending this POS airplane. The new F15SE fighter that is being built will be the best airplane in the world but you need to consider realties and strategies of the war and not just static comparison between airplanes and radars. Kapish?
Should be good for another 20 points on the S&P by tomorrow.
You have to admit, that plane is wicked.
Like the Wicked Witch of the West:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wicked_Witch_of_the_West
Just got up from a sunday nap. I see my typo.
You're right, that's an awesome airplane, and it brings new meaning to "Death from Above".
It's a very capable machine but really, really fucking ugly to look at.
It looks exactly like what it is - something moral automatons would fly to murder people who stand in the way of their wicked masters.
Let's hope it doesn't rain in England and those cardboard planes fall apart....
thank god rain is rare in England...
I thought it was the F-22 that was water-soluble?
Joking aside... Fuck the NWO, but they do have some amazing kit. The F-22 can do the most extraordinary things. I couldn't believe my eyes when I first saw them showing it off at an airshow.
Just think if they'd spent that money on, oh, I don't know, researching cures for macular degeneration. Or malaria. Or herpes!
Or the trillions wasted on trying to raise the blacks out of poverty. . .
Regrettably, we have things called hangars...
"Ooohhh and a change in the batting order as B-2 is on deck. Will he go for the fence?
But first, a word from our sponsor, Nuland's Cookies."
funny.
OK...let's see how well they do against a real air defense system...
Good point. A lot of work has been done since the B-2 was rolled out to come up with ways to detect them. Conversely, ECMs haven't stood still either and the B-2's radar absorbing coating has been upgraded at least twice. Putting the B-2 to a real test will be interesting to say the least.
It doesn't matter how much you upgrade it. The modern technique is to "listen" we"ll say, to the background from the sky; and detect via computer analysis; a hole in the natural noise. A completely radar zero solid body produces a perfect black hole in the uniform radiation from the sky. At this point; the B2 is a target. Whereas at one time, it was a program to scam a few 100 million dollars more tax dollars. If you look at the night sky you see lots of stars everywhere; especially with any kind of telescope, even a small one. What do you see if a perfectly black airplane passes over? An airplane shaped space that's all black.
Same as subs in the ocean. A "black" spot. All signal to noise ratios. And when there's Zero Signal as in also No Noise, well, then....
Same premise (SNR) as basic Van Eck Phreaking utilizing the electrical wiring in your home as the "antennae" or "sensor" to your system.
(Yes, Martha, the ubiquitous "they" do that shit.)
The problem with military versus common reasoning is the "acceptable losses" parameter... if the target is worth it (as in "they lose more than us") it will be done.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schweinfurt-Regensburg_mission
(the second raid was a disaster, but hey)
Do you think strategic bombers on a mission are expected to come home every time?
And the more that are shot down the more you have to replace them so the MIC and bankers rub their hands together.
War who's it good for.
Actually, coverage is not uniformally good. Therefore the bombers actually weave through weaker signals to give doubt to the observer of what they are observing. This is as much about strategy as technology.
Anyway this is misdirection as Aurora will drop out of the Exosphere at Mach 5 drop weapons and leave before anything can catch it.
Do you really think the F-35 really costs 100 million a copy?
.
Only until the next cost override is approved.
This Aurora system you mention sounds like the Wunderwaffen which would save Nazi Germany from those evil Russians.
If all the money wasted on war and the preparation for it was spent for the good of humanity, nobody would need to, or want to fight.
Hmmm
Methinks a small group benefits disproportunately!
And nobody would need to work!
We'd all be equal on EBT allotments!
Oh, the Happy Days Ahead!
Wrong.
seems like war is not an expense as much as it is a method of quick wealth transfer from bottom to top
Sorry, but I call BS. Defense is 3% of GDP and shrinking towards 2. We spent more on food stamps last year than on the entire development, production run, and every upgrade for the fleet of B-2's.
Congrats. This is the most idiotic post I've seen here for quite a while. An aircraft flying at 50k feet has an apparent size of just a couple arcminutes, near the limit of human visual acuity. An object that size is unlikely to occult a single naked eye star, except from extremely dark locations, and then only one at a time and indiscernible from atmospheric phenomenon.
the example of a visual light perspective was offered for the public. I seem to remember mentioning telescopes; also. Passive listening ground antennas coupled with computer data analysis can see the airplanes; which among their many other shortcomings do not operate at Angels 50. Nice try; tho.
Actually pretty well.
Welcome to Airstrip One
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IV4IjHz2yIo
It's propelled by anti gravity and can actually do about Mach 8
After they fill up the fuel tanks just once in the UK they will head home.
It will be fun to watch them try yet another high volume, put option driven slamdown. Cause who needs gold in a world with quadrillions in financial assets unable to be supported by cash flows... what could possibly go wrong?
There is only 1 semi stable path to resolve all of the current macro and geopolitical stress. And, it requires gold MUCH higher in USD terms.
Was our super hero prez Erkel piloting one of these?
Give that 'man' another peace prize.
*chortle*
I already heard on internet talk radio that the Western globalists are preparing for an end of June first strike against China and Russia.
Thnks ZH it was nice while it lasted. Should old acquaintences be forgottn ....
In memory of J. Alfred Prufrock.
+1 T.S. Eliot fan here. Soon the women will be discussing something other than Michelangelo.
The "Wasteland" commeth.
We're in rats' alley where the deadmen lost their bones.
“There was murder, there was rape, there were unspeakable practices, and all of them were for the good, the bloody good, the bloody myth, for the grail, for the Tower.”
First Strike? Good luck with that. Our friends in Russia can pull these behind a truck and launch them anywhere. ICBM with multiple MIRVs.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5wtFujUzubo
I say friends because the Russians oppose the NWO scum destroying America and western developed countries. F Soros and his NWO pals and American politicians they own.
Yeah? And I've never heard of a fighter taking a dive in the fifth round to catch his share of the payday.
The parasite in chief isn't that stupid. These are most likely for Iran... Perhaps a gift...
He's very stupid. The point you missed is this' he's perfectly indoctrinated. The real maniacs are always "true believers".
Can I ask true believer in what? The faster path to us destruction would be to not check Put in at all no matter how in competently he does.
The best available clues as to "what". are provided by Webster Tarpley's books. Basically, US world dominance, combined with a drastic lowering of living standards for US workers; an ultimate confrontation with russia is high on the list. I didn't say it was rational. The effective existence of another player that can forstall their filthy plans for places like Syria makes them blind with rage.
Can I ask true believer in what? The faster path to us destruction would be to not check Put in at all no matter how in competently he does.
five days ago northrop receives $9.9 Billion award for B-2 modernization
http://www.defense.gov/contracts/contract.aspx?contractid=5298
Award=gift
So lick my butt and suck on my balls. America! Fuck yeah! I don't doubt the B2's abilities. It probably can fly in undetected and nuke Russia, but it doesn't stop retaliation. This stupid game of dick waving needs to stop before someone gets hurts.
Come on, nobody will be used as cannon fodder.
And even if they had 500 B2s in UK, they can't use them. The answer would be NY, Washington and LA pulverized within an hour or so, as well as Moscow, and Peking not much later.
Who is afraid of a war for which there are no plans, and no plans that possibly could be drawn.
I have never seen a war plan that excludes nuclear. I you know of one please let me know.
Dead on. There is nothing for them to shoot at that will not start WWIII.
I inferred from the title of the piece the US were sending them to bomb the UK...in which case could you start with the headquarters of The Conservative Party, The Labour Party, and the Liberal Democrat Party, please?
Don't forget the BBC
We could only wish!
Bowe Bergdahl: [narrating] We were somewhere around Landstuhl, on the edge of the desert, when the drugs began to take hold. I remember saying something like:
Bowe Bergdahl: I feel a bit lightheaded. Maybe you should drive.
Bowe Bergdahl: [narrating] Suddenly, there was a terrible roar all around us, and the sky was full of what looked like huge bats, all swooping and screeching and diving around the car, and a voice was screaming:
Bowe Bergdahl: Holy Jesus. What are these goddamn animals?
[swatting the air]
Bowe Bergdahl: Huh! Huh! Huh! Fucking pigs.
Dr. Gonzo: Did you say something?
Bowe Bergdahl: Hm? Never mind. It's your turn to drive.
Bowe Bergdahl: [narrating] No point in mentioning these bats, I thought. Poor bastard will see them soon enough.
You been to Vegas in a big red convertible recently?
These aren't on the list of confirmed air craft for the 2014 Air Tattoo and if you believe the BBC the base was downgraded to a standby base and mothballed in 2010.
Hmm, and that's why the signposts on the A419 read "JAMC" still. Do not, for a moment, believe the BBC.
What's Putin going to do? He's going to sell some more gaz and keep on living well.
Next stop, Diego Garcia. Then Iran?
What the hell going on in the UK???
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wQBQZqQIpP8
Those riots occured in 2011. Someone repost the video.
Mafiosi's wet dream machine.
Good for show.
The engagement will be tactical and by drone.
That is all.
Putin will probably just laugh and pour himself another vodka, thinking - "Stupid, fat, lazy, fascist Amerikans. Send your ugly bombers, we could do with the target practice".
I come to ZH for comments that have been carefully thought about by intelligent people.
Then I read crap like this.
Fortunately you are in the minority.
You know what they say about glass houses? Russian women and ugly go together like flies and sh#t.
what?!
When the TV is showing bits of B-2 wreckage on TV Obama will probably have to have his caddy drive him back to the clubhouse.
I think I speak for many here in UK when I say "Get those fucking B2's the hell off our soil for ever!"
The good name of the WW2 allies, and the historic ties beween our countries have been grievously abused by your leaders and ours.
Bombers are antiquated.
XB-47 Hypersonic re-entry vehicle. (launches tungsten alloy slugs)> no boost required. Mach 6 (270 Magnum-30-06) slug @ hyper velocity.
Tungsten you say? Good job theres a fort full of that in Kentucky.
http://www.globalresearch.ca/why-ukraines-civil-war-is-of-global-histori...
Why Ukraine’s Civil War Is of Global Historical ImportanceAnyone who thinks Russia will be intimidated with those two planes is too stupid to have any authority.
"... what will Putin's retaliatory sabre-rattle be?"
Putin doesn't need to rattle any sabres. He just needs to turn off the spigot - that controls the flow of gas into Ukraine.
Might not need to do anything
Looks like the west is going to fuck up even more.
Bulgaria halts work on gas pipeline after US talks
http://www.bbc.com/news/business-27755032
Anyone ever watch Space Giants? I think the Stealth is modeled after Rodak's spaceship:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Magma-Taishi-GOA-Rodak-spaceship-LED-LIGHT-TABLE...
Keep in mind this show is several decades old.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1198112/Sleek-swift-deadly--Hitl...
No they just copied the Germans. This was first conceived in 1935. Invented by the German Horten brothers.
Cool I didn't know that.
I have some kick ass German tools in my shop. Good shit.
Actually the B-2's heritage, if you can call it that, is to the Northrop flying wing, which flew in the late 1950s.
Northrop had the basic concept 40 years before the B-2 and might have been a factor in them winning the contract to build it.
...which was copped from German WW2 flying wings, captured after the war.
Don't worry.Putin has outplayed Obama at every crucial moment.The U.S. right wing politicians look like fools in all this and are the laughing stalk of political circles right now in the BRIC countries.Old Joe Biden sitting in the gallery looking at a newly installed Ukrainian puppet that was put there by neo-nazi thugs.The U.S. Government is a dead beat broke bum that has nothing left except its military.The WhiteHouse under Obuma is 17.5 trillion officially in debt but the real and true total debt is over 200 trillion!Reminds me of Rome.Obama's last attempt to save face but we all know that the Russian-Chinese deal will avoid the use of the U.S. Dollar and further reduce the Dollar in world trade.That pisses-off the Whitehouse and they themselves are out to destroy the U.S. Dollar.Germany and France will cave-in and use the Russian Railway to the far east because they are both insolvent as well.Europe and America got snookered bigtime.It's the fall of the American Empire,their influence is gone and Communist Red China holds 4 trillion of U.S. debt and most of the world's gold bullion.They got Obuma by the balls.It's all just a big show with airplanes now.
When the fuck is Putin going to unleash his military and kick some fucknig Nazi ass all the way back to the border with Romania.
Unless the brought the B83's with them (they didn't), nothing to get excited about.
The insanity continues. The idea of America getting involved or jumping into a war in Ukraine would have been hard to imagine a few years ago. Currently are still engaged in a war of words but the potential for this to escalate into a shooting war is real. Allowing events to deteriorate into a major war or possibly into what some see as World War III is becoming a reality.
As insane as it appears this could become the final outcome. The location of this as a military confrontation is right in Putin's backyard and this is a strong advantage for Russia. It is silly to think Putin and Russia will back down. This means poking the bear is not a smart move. More on this subject in the article below.
http://brucewilds.blogspot.com/2014/04/war-in-ukraine-bad-idea_26.html