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Las Vegas Cop Killers Linked To Bundy Ranch Militia; Raged "It's Time To Wake Up."
Yesterday's shooting in Las Vegas drew media attention for a number of reasons but perhaps of most note was the chilling comments and premeditation involved. As WaPo reports, Jerad and Amanda Miller simultaneously executed two Las Vegas police officers in a pizza restaurant as the officers ate lunch; and then Jerad Miller covered the dead officers with a Gadsden flag and put a manifesto with a swastika on one of the officers’ bodies. However, as the hours since the disaster go by, more details of the couple have been exposed including Jared's anti-government video-rant below, "Sounds a little like Nazi Germany to me, or maybe Communist Russia... Really, people? It’s time to wake up. It’s getting ridiculous." Comments on his Facebook page also indicated he would be a "martyr" and asked for "the death a hero deserves." However, potentially most interesting is Interior Secretary Sally Jewell noting that the two may have joined militiamen from around the country at Cliven Bundy’s ranch earlier this year.
Interior Secretary Sally Jewell on Monday highlighted news reports that said two apparent white supremacists who shot and killed three people in Las Vegas on Sunday may have joined militiamen from around the country at Cliven Bundy’s ranch earlier this year.
Asked by reporters at the Western Governors Association’s annual meeting here about the Interior Department’s approach to Bundy, Jewell said two police officers in Las Vegas were “gunned down by people that news reports say were also at the Bundy ranch.”
On Sunday, Jerad and Amanda Miller simultaneously executed two Las Vegas police officers in a pizza restaurant as the officers ate lunch, police officials told the Las Vegas Review-Journal. Jerad Miller covered the dead officers with a Gadsden flag and put a manifesto with a swastika on one of the officers’ bodies.
The Millers went to Bundy’s ranch, about 80 miles outside of Las Vegas, in April, they said on social media sites. But the militiamen shunned the couple because Jerad Miller had prior felony convictions in Washington State. Jerad Miller’s last note, posted on a social media site about seven hours before the shooting, read: “The dawn of a new day. May all our coming sacrifice be worth it.”
And here is Jared Miller's video rant...
Jerad Miller rant by aaron-gell
And from his facebook page...
Of course, what makes us wonder aloud is whether this "provocation" by a Bundy-ite as he is represented, will be sufficient to reignite the drama surrounding the Bundy ranch.
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There we go. The Great Big White terrorist has arrived!
Just giving that cunt Harry Reid more ammo. Most people wont care what he has to say. Cop killers and then thats it.
Jared and his girlfriend are by no means representative of the Bundy Ranch people!
This bloodbath was stopped by an armed citizen who carried concealed daily. He was a Nevada CCW holder named Joe (Joseph) Wilcox. He was a good man and he represents the calibre of man who stood by Bundy. He is the one that stopped the two shooters. He confronted Jared and was shot by the girl.
" MAY have joined militiamen?"
Even the angelic Obama administration has it rogues.
"Look, honey! A useful idjut!"
This thing stinks to high heaven.
If you kill a million, you're a President. If you kill just a few, you're a terrorist.
Ten bucks says one of their chains was food stamps, a government check and/or subsidized housing.
Another ten bucks says the toxicology (which we will likely never see because it is not useful to the PTB) would show some nasty drugs in the carcasses.
This isn't the path to take at this point, but I won't shed a tear for a couple of pigs. Let's keep things in perspective. The USSA has been murdering innocent people for years. The USSA is waging a de facto state of war against its citizens on multiple fronts. It's time to grow some thicker skin and realize legitimate people are going to snap under this strain.
And there is little or no mention of the fact that they shut down and suicided after a CCW holder in that Walmart confronted them.
Nutter active shooters always shut down when their script is interrupted. The onbly thing the CCW holder did wrong was to try to talk them out of it instead of immediately gunning them down.
That wasn't part of the scheduled programming, I imagine.
"Shooting" on location has drawbacks. Apparently there weren't any abandoned pizza joints and Big Box stores nearby to rent...
Not sure what to make of this yet. Dude is definitely intelligent and articulate. His statement is indicative of a thinking man, not some random nut. Smart people don't just go off on dumb rages, so something here doesn't make sense at a basic level, though I'm not putting it past anyone to just snap and say FUCK IT and go waste a few pigs for the glory.
Whatever the basis of truth of the matter, this will of course be used to further demonize guns and the people who have them.
I am Chumbawamba.
I hear you Chumba. Whatever it is, it ain't good for liberty.
This brazen massacre by terrorist right-wing militia members is really big news.
Anybody else notice that the Karachi Airport attack by our new best buddies, the Taliban, that killed 28 people has had little media coverage?
Not to make light of the tragedy in Las Vegas, but It's not terrorism or big news if it is not convenient to the government (think Karachi and Ukraine), and it is incidents like Las Vegas that is (domestic) terrorism which justifies ignoring the law and Constitution.
Yep - AToL with my morning caffeine.
don't you worry, big brother has just the plan to protect you citizens from all these nasty domestic terrorists... just as al-cia-duh will be defeated, so too will the angry white male:
http://www.thedailysheeple.com/a-shocking-joint-femadhs-psyops-campaign-...
KOOKS.
Can't wait to see how TPTB "Never let a good crisis go to waste" on this one...
If there is anything at least "not bad" about this event is they did not go nutso on the walkway between Planet Hollywood and the Bellagio. Now that is a crowd of people who are pretty self absorbed.
Remember that "white supremacist" is a euphmism for "Fed monitored" and, quite reasonably, "Fed Provocateured." The Fed's have a tendancy to run the fringe race oriented groups, whether it is the KKK or the New Black Panther "wanna be cracker baby killers."
These two were turned away when they volunteered to help with security at the Bundy Ranch. They showed up several days after the showdown with the Feds. Stuart Rhoads, founder and leader of Oathkeepers, was one of the people who told them, "thanks, but no thanks". The main reason was he admitted that he had a felony conviction. They were not allowed on the Bundy's property, they were seen on the other side of the river with supporters of the Bundys.
BTW, it is time that people "Wake Up", but that doesn't mean you should shoot cops.
According to the Alex Jones Infowars website:
"A curious theme running through several recent shootings seems to be a connection to the Batman comic book franchise, a coincidence which runs parallel with CIA mind-controlled assassins of the past being found with copies of the book The Catcher in the Rye."http://www.infowars.com/bizarre-batman-connection-shows-up-in-another-ma...
An awake person would nevere tarnish liberty in this manner. The non aggression principle is what it is.
Either this was staged at an 8th grade level, or the Banksters simply lucked out beyond any and all expections.
BTW, those police were supposed to be "safe" due to the trillions spent by the NSA and DHS, right?
What happened? Then again, they still can't protect a Navy base!
10 years from now it will be exposed they were yet another FBI/Southern Poverty Law Center patsy terrorist that were known about for years by "informants" that gave them the weapons and helped egg them into doing it in the first place. That is basically the "domestic terrorist" operating procedure for the FBI since Oklahoma City.
The powers that be must be pissed. Look for some nail gun therapy or the equivalent.
i wonder at the choice of low ranking police. if one is inclined to oppose armed and trained individuals and commit murder, some research on the internet and perhaps a bit of travel would seem to offer targets a few rings closer to satan, figuratively speaking.
Small correction:
Nazis are only right wingers in a socialist's imagination. NSDAP = National Socialist German Worker's Party. Fascist economies are all socialist. Goebbels wrote a bunch of edicts to try to force progressive taxes, and Goering bragged to the Nuremberg Tribunal about putting rich people who tried to flee with assets to death.
Good point. The Left does not like to admit that the proper name of the Nazi party was "National Socialist". It is an autocratic socialist party. They only difference between it and the far left commies is that there is some free market and some private property.
The proper far right is true anarchy or the Libertarians where there is little to no government and all things are done privately through common laws and private contracts.
We are essentially in a soft socialists state, the USSA as many (including me) like to say. We vote on how to take away property, control an economy and redistribute stuff.
Were the Millers some of the FBI agents the Bundy protestors were worried about? More mentally unstable dupes like the "shoe bomber"?
MK alive n kicking
The wife was definitely a mind controlled candidate. Her facebook profile was rife with occult/masonic symbolism. She was alledegly the one that shot her husband and then herself.
Gadsden flag. Swastikas. Well, those should show up really wall on the Wal-Mart security cameras.
Speaking of which, where is that footage and when will we see it? Never? Oh.
We'll probably get that footage when they also release the footage of the Tsarnaev bros placing their bombs, watching them go off, and then hanging around suspiciously afterward. Right, FBI?
You mean the two guys whose backpacks weren't big enough to contain those pressure cookers, unlike all the mercs that were running around with the giant backpacks? I prefer to just believe the official narrative. It keeps me from all that painful thinking.
Look at this video!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1YPcDe34XO0
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Yes he did!
Must be an imposter. Didn't even mention Bitcoin.
BUY BITCOIN!!
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If true, the NRA will be all over it.
False flag possibly, IMHO. If it were real wouldn't they have gone after the Senator or such?
False flag indicator: are top elites targeted/killed? Operation Gladio ALWAYS went after the innocent.
God damn, we live IN Disneyland.
Truth.
Who's to say whether that Facebook Page is authentic? Could also be someone planting a meme to cast "Liberty and Truth" in a negative light.
Everybody is gearing up for the ultimate "E" ticket ride.
100 to 1 if Joe, the CCW guy had lived, he would have been "prosecuted."
Nope. Nevada isn't full (yet) of anti gun idiots like California. Nevada has a long list of CCW holders shooting aggressors (both Human and animal) and not being prosecuted. A great example is what happened in Winnemucca NV a few years back.
http://dustinsgunblog.blogspot.com/2008/05/nv-mass-shooting-stopped-by-ccw-permit.html
Or in Reno just a year ago: http://www.mynews4.com/mostpopular/story/Man-shoots-and-kills-dog-in-self-defense/970sX3PLIk-9BdgAEkHgQA.cspx
That isn't to say they don't prosecute though.... see this story : http://www.rgj.com/story/news/crime/2014/05/27/police-arrest-sparks-man-alleged-murder-squatter/9637983/
I figured the quotes would set off the sarcasm.
I did NOT mean that he should be "prosecuted," but that the government criminals would have if he had lived.
Is the "Made in China" Gadsden Flag a tell?
Its pretty funny watching the MSM twisting themselves into knots over this one.
The male shooter was kicked off the Bundy Ranch.
http://www.opposingviews.com/i/society/guns/las-vegas-white-supremacist-shooters-allegedly-kicked-bundy-ranch
Now, why exactly would Cliven Bundy (if he were in fact, a razzzist as the MSM says) kick this guy off his ranch?
What does that tell you when even the reviled "domestic terrorists" won't have anything to do with you? Well, other than you might be a senator.
lol...exactly.
The story says they were kicked-off the Bundy ranch for having prior felonies. So they were doing background checks at the Bundy ranch?? Riiiiiiight...
Felony (meaning one) which is wrong anyways. The salient point is, is they were kicked out.
According to Ammon Bundy it was because of their beliefs were at cross purposes to theirs...
"Ammon Bundy told The Associated Press that Jerad and Amanda Miller were asked to leave his father’s ranch after being there for a few days this spring.
He said that while details were still sketchy, the Millers’ conduct was the problem. He called the couple “very radical” and said they did not “align themselves” with the protest’s main issues.
“Not very many people were asked to leave,” he said. “I think they may have been the only ones.”
http://www.pottsmerc.com/general-news/20140609/bundys-son-las-vegas-shooters-kicked-off-ranch
some people's backgrounds have been looked into there, so yes. Trust but verify right?
He was outed as a nazi and a felon by other folks there. The Bundy ranch wasn't the first time this nutter had tried to worm his way into the threeper crowd.
That we all cast aside our petty differences and united under the banner of liberty and Truth. May future generations look back upon this time in history with awe and gratitude…
As said by a loser asshat white supremacist under house arrest.
His fault he’s a loser piece of shit? Nope, it’s deh government and them immigrants!! And he gon save everyone by shooting people peacefully eating lunch!!
Where do these stupid fucks get the idea that some outside force is needed to keep them down?? Sometimes it ain't the evil socialists and tyrannical .gov.. it's just you.
Did anyone else notice that there is no evidence of them being "white supremacists"?
Just add the label and say "MAY be linked to Militiamen".
Yup, it's propaganda.
They're white. Any negative connotations are assumed and applied automatically.
He has MLK Jr. quote on his facebook and he killed white people. Of course he's waycist.
Sometimes good people must sacrifice everything, so that other good people can live without having to sacrifice everything. Neither group of good people--those who died to save a cause, or those who lived to fulfill it--is necessarily better than the other.
The "maturity" does not lie in the individual. The maturity lies in the course of events.
Those who perish, in a struggle which has not yet ripened, cannot be said to be "immature" as individuals. It is the struggle which might not yet be mature, not those who take part in that struggle.
The other question, of course, is whether the cause itself is noble.
Did anyone else notice that there is no evidence of them being "white supremacists"?
Just add the label and say "MAY be linked to Militiamen".
He was interviewed at the bundy ranch and neighbours said him and his wife would hand out white power propaganda leaflets.
Handily, someone is trolling white nations and posted a bunch about their freedom loving white power patriotism:
http://www.whitenations.com/showthread.php?s=199514f0ecf402f7cead6c8a2ae...
Assuming of course this is true.....what exactly was defined as "white power"?
Amen. I am sick of the bullshit "liberty movement" that the white supremacists and right wing populists use to try to associate themselves with libertarianism, without having to deal with that pesky noninitiation of force thing. It's hard to be a white supremacist murdering piece of shit while at the same time believing it's not OK to initiate aggression against others.
I am by no means a cop lover, but this guy deserves everything he has coming to him. Protips for the mentally challenged murderer wannabes out there: (1) revolution implies popular support, and you have exactly nil, and (2) killing two dudes eating fucking pizza is straight up murder, nothing else.
If you kill a million, you're a President. If you kill just a few, you're a terrorist.
Logged in just to upvote you.
I think it stinks that they are saying ''may have attended" the Bundy deal. If they know it too be true then say so..They are trying to go two directions. Why hell, he may have voted "yes" to the mud tax...we know everyone will hate him now. The govt is turning me into a skeptical old fart. I almost forgot to feel sadness for the fallen...god bless their families.
Kicked off the protest...
From Oath Keepers:
My fellow Americans,
Jerad and Amanda Miller, were NOT members of the Oath Keepers.
They were Nazis. The EXACT opposite of our ideals.
They were KICKED off the Bundy Ranch by the militia personnel. Because Jared was a FELON.
We do NOT support their actions.
What they committed, were multiple acts of premeditated murder.
That is all I have at the moment. But I wanted to get ahead of the government-media narrative. Before they spin this horrendous act, and attempt to pin it on the patriot movement.
I pray for the families of these innocent and fallen law enforcement officers.
In God's name.
Amen.
Sincerely,
Robert Hase
III%
Do not let any of them divide and conquer us! Clearly not all the facts are out, but both evil .gov and banksters as well as whackos left & right will use this as a chance to further oppress us!
Stack PMs, prepare in any other ways you feel is rational (that includes Bitcoin and bullets too for those so inclined).
Sooner or later the Bad Times will arrive as NONE of our financial problems have been solved and NO ONE of significance has gone to jail re the financial crisis.
So, killing beat cops is his answer to opposing tyranny? (if he's going to kill tyrants, could he at least have picked a .001%er?) And then he calls for a hero's treatment before his own self-predicted death? Who is this wack pie? Delusions of insane grandeur...
Yeah no kidding. Those cops had families and such. Misguided tweekers
You're still under the misguided perception that this isn't for your consumption.
If it wasn't, it a) wouldn't show up in the media, even if it were for real and b) it would make some sort of sense.
They get more bang for the buck when the acts of "terrorism" like this don't make much sense... since it builds the narrative that "anyone could be a terrorist"... your neighbors... your friends... your family... better send them all to Gitmo just to be safe!
6 downvotes? Ummm i dont get it. Two beat cops didnt have to die. Those fuckin tweekers are messed up.
Look up Erik Scott at Cosco....He did not have to die either.
Yeah sorry left that out. None had to die
"Beat cops" murder innocent people all the time and when they're not murdering innocent people they're usually filling their revenue generation quotas. Hardly innocent... It should be no surprise they are targets.
Yeah but did THOSE beat cops kill anyone? U cant just generalize man
Police forces around America generalize all the time.
Not say'n it's right...I'm just say'n
Haha... And what's profiling?
So where's all the good cops? All I see are corrupt cops and cops who turn a blind eye. Like I said previously... Hardly innocent. If you believe that cops working the Vegas strip knew nothing about ANY corruption, you're a jackass.
Just as corrupt as the fucking troops by your measure. I understand you are tired. We all are sick of the corruption and abuse. But dont start giving in and cast a death sentence on any and all with a badge. Its just not right bro. Cheers
Maskone...did you search Erik Scott at Cosco in Vegas?
How many cops involved in the execution of Erik Scott, could you point out the good cops please.
No current serving law enforcement officer is innocent...none...do they deserve to be executed, NO. However I will not shed a tear or lose sleep when they are..400 to 500 innocent civilians killed by LEO's in the US every year...580+ in 2013...how many LEOs are killed by innocent civilians?
People will start to snap..fearing for their safety when dealing with LEOs. Or act like the two assholes in LV or the goof in Moncton (Canada), am I surprised ...hell No...you should not be either.
If there were any good cops, there would be no bad ones!
I havent done any background on erik scott. But what i know is this
You cant judge all cops based on the actions of a few. By your same logic, if there were any good american troops, there would be no bad ones.
I agree people will snap. Shit, i encourage it. How else can we expect anything to change in a system that prosecutes whistleblowers? But ithe actions of these two meth heads are cold, ineffective, and damaging to those that support liberties and freedoms. Besides, dc and the federal reserve needs to be scrutinized, not metro cops and walmart shoppers.
Edit
And trust me, i know about cops abusing power. My family and i have personally been on the receiving end of it. But im not going to be a coward and go on a crusade against all of them
Soilders are another animal....community police is something else.
Do you believe that a cop that fails to report corruption, or fails to dis-arm and arrest a bad cop when they execute people, is still a good cop?
They may not all be bad, however none of them are good, or innocent...none,,,they will not hire good cops, and any that were left from 20-30 years ago have left the force.....there are no good cops in our modern police forces.
Edit: nor am I on a crusade to see them executed, however I will not mourn their deaths, especially when they kill more, and more innocent civilians... they cannot continue to act with impunity, and then act surprised or hurt/threatened when someone lashes out with the same excessive force they are famous for.
I feel you man. I am just as fed up as you. I guess i am a little shell shocked from all the crazy shit i grew up around. Peace man stay safe
Soldiers and cops are different? Someone has drank the "support the troops" kool aid too often.
I agree that neither should be murdered arbitrarily, however.
No koolaid just trying to make a point. I could use the same example for any profession.
I hope you have not mistaken me for a kool-aid drinker.....I simply stated it was different animal, and I agree cops and military are not that different in reality, they have melted together in many ways.
They are very similar now, niether being used the way they were intended to be used.
Community police (suppose to) have a mandate to serve and protect a community.
Soliders (suppose to) have a mandate to defend our borders, against foreign invasion.
If this were during an active war or foreign policing action, and two soliders were executed, would you be offended or surprised? Not me would'nt lose sleep or mourn for either. When you choose to participate in war or policing you accept there will be consequences or reward for your actions. Karma pays all eventually.
The police fight wars now, war on drugs..etc..war against domestic terrorism... they have now been effictively mixed in mandate and share SOPs, both with very little oversight, thus both systems corrupt beyond belief......both are failures in the context of what they were created for.....
So no I have not drank the kool-aid, but thanks for your concern.
Ccanuck
People down vote my post indicating that Joe Wilcox was a Nevada CCW holder and was first to confront the shooters. Can't handle the facts being posted? Downvote away!
Don't confuse libtards with mere facts.
Doubleplusungood crimethink!
Remember, the meia buzz after Kathy Gifford was shot and how the entire establishment blamed it on Sarah Palin, then after it was discovered that the shooter was a socialist and not a fan of SP, the mediaever apologized to Sarah. This WH wants to tie anything to reguar citizens.
Q: How many democraps does it take to change a light bulb?
A: That's not funny and you're a racist.
And unlike the thieving and killing gun and badge thugs, Joe had courage and acted.
The gun and badge thugs would have put half the town under marshal-law, shot and/or tazed some innocent people, held the Walmart under siege for hours and then destroyed the Walmart in a blaze-of-cowardice by the SWAT team. More innocent would have probably died during the raid.
Did I miss any thing?!
His name is Joseph Wilcox.
His name is Joseph Wilcox.
Long live Fight Club!!!
OK,
NOW is a good time to remind you.......
Remember "Occupy Wall St" (OWS)?
I believe THEY may have been the ORIGINAL revolutionary freedom fighters.
Tje "first shot fired".
But were TOTALLY maligned and discredited by "the press".
Las Vegas Wal Mart Shooting: Going Down the False Flag Checklist:
http://winteractionables.com/?p=12452
Christ, that's all we need... Another "whack job", who's low on IQ, but high on ignorance, venom and mind-altering crap, and spouting his BS. Nutjob!
Rather than being worried who is allowed to carry guns, I'm more worried about who's allowed to breed or be kept in the gene pool. Send him and fuckers like him to the front lines in Kandahar and let time do the rest: Factory Recall.
I can feel the tin foil cramping down on my skull, but doesn't this feel just a little to apposite? Government pushing domestic terrorist agenda harder than ever before, and then this guy shows up and pulls this off?
plus forgive me for judging a book by it's cover, but the tirade on his facebook page seemed a little to well put together when measured against his video rant and personal history. It just don't figure mister, I think what we have here is a stooge.
I am inclined to agree.
The words written on his Facebook page I have written, before, on this site, with some of those phrases quoted being echoed word for word.
Well I am neither a Felon, a Meth Freak, a Nazi, a White Supremaacist, a Racist, nor a Cop Killer.
This is a portrait which the Mass Media is attempting to paint. All of the colors used are just red for blood and black for death.
Are you getting the picture???
It is a good point and i am not at all a conspiracy type. However, I read the guy's history compared to what he wrote and anyone who ever had it in for Patriot-Tea Party-NRA-2nd Amendment types got a nice little soundbite to say "Ah ha! See, I told you they were dangerous!"
I like to read the comments on Yahoo and some other places and the salivating libs were all over this and loving every bit of this story. They don't give a crap about the cops. This fits their anti-right template very well, about 90%.
I want to get more background and fill in some blanks to reconcile this.
More interesting?
One of the Tyler's posting a headline that would normally have been front page for the New York Times:
Las Vegas Cop Killers Linked To Bundy Ranch Militia
(buried down in the WaPo piece)
The Millers went to Bundy’s ranch, about 80 miles outside of Las Vegas, in April, they said on social media sites. But the militiamen shunned the couple because Jerad Miller had prior felony convictions in Washington State.
Et tu, Tyler?
No shit. The only link I see is they went down there and the militia people told them to hit the road.
Very smart and proactive of them folks to actually do background checks. Very interesting.
From the AP coverage:
Ammon Bundy, one of Cliven Bundy's sons, said by telephone that the Millers were at his father's ranch for a few days this spring before they were asked to leave by militia members for unspecified "conduct" problems. He called the couple "very radical" and said they "did not align themselves" with the beliefs of other protesters, who thwarted a roundup of Cliven Bundy's cattle by the U.S. Bureau of Land Management, which wants to collect more than $1 million in grazing fees and penalties.
While thousands of people have been to the site over the last couple of months, "Not very many people were asked to leave. I think they may have been the only ones," Ammon Bundy said.
Say Tylers - redeem yourselves by putting "linked" in quotes please..
Thanks Barliman.
True revolution can still be accomplished by peaceful means. Wake up, yes, but his method was wrong.
- Refuse to pay taxes. They can print the money, so it's questionable why anyone should pay anyway.
- Refuse to obey the statists in office until things change.
etc.
Hey Jlee,
A friendly reminder that ..
- Refuse to obey the statists in office until things change.
Can get ya murdered by police, even while your just having lunch.
Just say'n be careful when disobeying.
Agree, but one must also prepare for their inevitable violent response.
It's easy enough to not pay taxes - just reduce your income to a certain level, and you no longer owe taxes. You can fight the system, and enjoy substantially increased leisure at the same time. Hey, no one ever said that revolution would be lucrative :-). That's how the Soviet Union was brought down.
There we go. The Great Big White terrorist has arrived!
Whew! Just as well Eric 'my people' Holder has this new anti-internal-enemy (i.e. White) legislation in place. But only just in time. What a visionary.
How to Spot a False Flag:
http://winteractionables.com/?p=12236
Wriiten June 6: last paragraph:
No doubt this criminal regime needs to be concerned with an American Summer, so they attack to confuse or shock. But the only “threat” the American people needs to fear are a slew of false flags replete with actors and drug-induced killers, patsies or worse. Look for reports of “terrorists” who are actually patriotic American veterans who own guns to emerge front and center as government targets.
yep. Apparently this guy's ability to get a job ceased after a weed bust, so... GOOD WORK WAR ON DRUGS!
The guy loved to dress like the Joker and his Girlfriend as Harliquen. These people match the same MO as the guy from Colorado that wanted to be the joker.
I wonder if they were seeing government military psychologists too.
Jewell: "There ain't nuthin uglier than an old white woman." Fred Sanford, Sanford and Son
that's just too convenient.
Sounds to me like a "never let a good crisis go to waste" moment. What else did they find? Let me guess. A bag of weed, a satchel of gold coins, a copy of the constitution with a Ron Paul bumper sticker... and a list of every ZH user.
What can I tell everyone here, given the shit that a few bimbos attempted to fling at me for being rationale about the execution of those two cops?
I said that it would be used against the Freedom movement.
Well,
I TOLD YOU SO.
No. You wrote that OUR COMMENTS would be used against the Freedom Movement.
I like your response here as it demonstrates your DISHONESTY.
I will continue to write and dissent, Frankie. So get lost troll and go hide as you are so afraid of the big bad Government.
You are pretty much a lying sack of shit. Let me show you what I actually did write vs. what you claim I wrote.
You are practicing the exact same bullshit that the corporate media does on a daily basis. You are misrepresenting the facts by lying by omission, telling half the story, so to speak. I made several comments in that post, and this was one of them.
Tellin' half the truth still ain't the truth, unless you didn't read all of the comments, which is just as bad as "People that can read and don't are no better off than those that can't" (Mark Twain).
and I also wrote.
and I said
Now, should I start searching the blogs for to see what they are saying about the supporters of these lunatics?
You are fibbin by omission'.
Quit being an obtuse douche. I said I told you so and I was right. I said that this instance would be used against us and this article proves that out immediately. Read my quotes above. And as far as your ass hole-like, barbaric comments about the officers being used against us, well, for Christ's sake, give it more than 48 hours.
You are disengenuous also.
Troll? First, unlike you, I can read and acknowledge when I am logically defeated, whereas you cannot. Your behavior is troll-like. Second, I go to great depths to elaborate on my responses to trolls like you, where you are the one that is performing the drive-by. Repeatedly.
I think you have a major case of projection going on there, Tall Troll.
Don't toss out the word "troll" as a perjorative when a.) I have obviously written a number of lengthy and thought out responses in my times here, and b, precisely at a time when you are demonstrating troll behavior to the letter.
Beware what you post.
Internet activities will soon be pre-crime.
Unfortunately, those killed will have no more opportunities to "wake up".
When things get really bad it will be important to have members of law enforcement sympathetic to the liberty movement, and this sort of thing doesn't help that.
Friday, October 7th, 2011
"It is time now to face the Truth, children."
http://www.thewarningsecondcoming.com/purgatory-is-not-a-place-you-shoul...
Fairy tales and invisible friends. Grow up and use some fucking reason.
Say, would you mind pointing to the passage in either the old, or new testament that specifically mentions the concept of purgatory? Not the catholic bible either. I would like to see it from either the original greek translation or an older KV version. Having a hard time finding that one. Thanks.
Didn't the RCs decide it no longer exists? Lol, what a hoot.
< False flag operation.
< Gadsden flag operation.
Sounds like MK Ultra type shit.
I have read up on some of those types of things. Exactly why does anything violent have to be some kind of manufactured event?
It merely reinforces the line of thought that the government is all powerful and that they are creating these events to reinforce their power.
Why can't people just snap?
pods
The killers were meth heads who liked to dress up as Batman villians.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2653139/Online-messages-white-su...
When they showed up at the Bundy ranch they were asked to leave because of the man's extensive criminal record. I wonder if the Bundy ranch militia took one look at their background and identified them as the government plants that they probably were.
The government plants already at Bundy's ranch shooed them off.
When anti-gun demoncrap legislators like Leeland Yee (D) CA get busted selling weapons and other sundry items to terrorists yet gets virtually ZERO media coverage and disappears from sight and every shooting incident gets media coverage for weeks on end, some of us do begin to wonder if more is at foot than meets the eye.
Sorry for the long sentence.
I agree that every event will be used to further an agenda. But seriously, every event that happens is done by a "government plant."
WTF?
Can't people snap after their dreams of the future collide with the harse reality that their lives are never going to amount to what their dreams said?
pods
I just wonder why they have to take out such sympathetic victims when they snap? Beat cops eating their lunch? Some woman just minding her own business at Wal-Mart? Why not some feds or IRS agents? Or maybe Jamie, or Lloyd, or some of the more onerous politicians out there?
The one thing I do know is that no law or collection of laws is gonna keep shit from getting crazier by the day as our country and society implode.
Look what was done (in the media) to Joe Stack. Fucker flew a plane INTO an IRS building. Pretty soon he had a "manifesto" and whatnot. Within a couple days, he had too many lugnuts loose. Fuck, what he wrote could have been penned by most here, including myself.
The media's job is to maintain the status quo. That doesn't mean that the government has control over the underlying events.
pods
At least Joe Stack chose a worthy target. It's entirely possible that these two latest kooks did just snap and decide to take out a couple of cops and an innocent bystander. I'm just lamenting that the people who snap and go on a killing spree so rarely ever kill anyone who richly deserves it, when there are so many who do.
That is the rub, if these two did deserve it, you would never know. That is the job of the media. To humanize the victims and dehumanize the suspects. To that end they do amazingly well at their job.
Someone lost a father, brother, uncle. We see that as the public because that humanizes them.
What we don't see is the relatives of the wedding parties we bomb across the globe. We see collateral damage for doing a job that is necessary. Same with police work. We hear about the shootings, but always have that backed up with how difficult a job the cops have kicking in doors to arrest petty drug criminals.
If the actions of the population at large cannot be fully controlled, then at least they can control the narrative. Imagine what this country would be like if instead of most of the population that was capable of killing, men, did not have the outlet of being drunk on the weekend watching sports to satisfy their testosterone needs?
The farmers control the events as best as they can, then control the narrative after outlier events happen to maintain control of the flock.
pods
They've got us chasing our tails with all the psycho-babble on tv, the radio and print. They've been bombarding us with microwaves and dumping crap into the water, food and air. Who knows how far they have warped our cognitive abilities.
Watch the movie Videodrome...talk about a mind trip..The ultimate mind controlled assasin. The full version isn't on youtube.
Tyler Durden: Man, I see in fight club the strongest and smartest men who've ever lived. I see all this potential, and I see squandering. God damn it, an entire generation pumping gas, waiting tables; slaves with white collars. Advertising has us chasing cars and clothes, working jobs we hate so we can buy shit we don't need. We're the middle children of history, man. No purpose or place. We have no Great War. No Great Depression. Our Great War's a spiritual war... our Great Depression is our lives. We've all been raised on television to believe that one day we'd all be millionaires, and movie gods, and rock stars. But we won't. And we're slowly learning that fact. And we're very, very pissed off.
Thats true, but why are so many people that snap associated with Slenderman website, and the joker? Report says this guy was linked to both. The kids that stabbed the girl a few days ago were too, so was the colorado theater gunman.
pods -
There is a difference between someone snapping and writing on a blog, talking with friends and whoever will listen, and taking the lives of two innocent police officers in the name of war. When people protest it is usually a patsy who starts the riot.
First off, nobody is innocent if they have reached adulthood (myself included mind you). Least of all "police officers." If they had killed two men who were police, you might make that argument. They killed to police officers, who happened to be men. Big difference. We argue here day in and day out about the over reach of this government and the abuses of power by those charged with safeguarding our liberties.
Snapping is writing on a blog? Writing on a blog say, about time to bring out the guillotines? We talk about that HERE all the time. I know I do. Because I should be able to voice my opinions and so far Tyler et all have allowed me the forum to do so.
A lot of the time it is plants that derail a legitimate movement by inciting violence. What movement were these two tarnishing? The Bundy thing? I think old Clive did that all on his own. No need to waste a resource by having them kill and be killed when all they had to do was give Clive a microphone.
Even ZH now has become the unthinking and reflexive flip side of the coin to the other unthinking and reflexive view.
Cannot this simply be that two misfits (from most of what I have read) finally ran out of causes to get behind because all of them have shunned them?
His FB post could have been posted here on a daily basis by a couple dozen posters. Fuck he could have plagiarized it FROM ZH.
Agent Provocateurs have been used before. Confirmed in the first WTC bombing for concrete proof (as one can get). But here I am not seeing the need (through their lens) of these two being Agent Provocateurs.
pods
In total agreement with you, Pods.
If this whathisname - because that is how history will remember him - had killed Jamie Dimon and Lord Blankfien then he may have started a revolution. Instead he killed two police officers who had no public noteriety for being corrupt individuals who were running our society into the ground, like Dimon and Blankfien.
This guy deserves no credit and should be seen as either a patsy or part of the opposition in general terms.
Yes writing on ZH is snapping. Yes telling your family of the truth to power is snapping. No, killing two people one has never met is not snapping, it is simply cowerdice.
Same here. All I see is two nutters who went off the deep end. Not surprising given the current epidemic of mental illness. As for the media, they are just Pander Bears. Whatever is currently controversial they pander to in the name of making a buck. To read more into it than that is to start down the same sorry rabbit hole these two losers fell into.
I plagiarize from ZH all the time. I have great files of quotes from all sorts (even you). I never give you credit when I post it to other sites. I'm not near smart enough to come up with the great arguments I get here.
Sure you are. Everyone is. All that is needed is a forum where ideas and arguments can be hashed out without people being banned, or arguments blown up by flame wars. Ideas are key on the internet, I think that is why most who argue like it. I also look at comments on main stream boards (my local news rag for one) and the arguments are so mundane and predicatable. Left-right is all you get. Two sheep baaaahing about how their side of the pen has better grass.
Think about having any argument we have around here in real life. Usually people either ridicule you, or if you happen to get them to entertain some uncomfortable possibility, they will segue into something more comfortable for them.
As for pillaging, no biggie here. Not like "pods" is gonna be suing anyone.
(Unless your post was just a thinly veiled poke, which if so, bravo, I bit.)
pods
have to agree with you pods - not every looney-tunes shooter is "doing it for the cause" - whatever that might be. . .
healthy for the minds to get stirred up occasionally, not be so content in the echo-chambers. . . a good to 'n' fro argument can provoke thinking after the fact, and this is how we stay agile.