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Las Vegas Cop Killers Linked To Bundy Ranch Militia; Raged "It's Time To Wake Up."
Yesterday's shooting in Las Vegas drew media attention for a number of reasons but perhaps of most note was the chilling comments and premeditation involved. As WaPo reports, Jerad and Amanda Miller simultaneously executed two Las Vegas police officers in a pizza restaurant as the officers ate lunch; and then Jerad Miller covered the dead officers with a Gadsden flag and put a manifesto with a swastika on one of the officers’ bodies. However, as the hours since the disaster go by, more details of the couple have been exposed including Jared's anti-government video-rant below, "Sounds a little like Nazi Germany to me, or maybe Communist Russia... Really, people? It’s time to wake up. It’s getting ridiculous." Comments on his Facebook page also indicated he would be a "martyr" and asked for "the death a hero deserves." However, potentially most interesting is Interior Secretary Sally Jewell noting that the two may have joined militiamen from around the country at Cliven Bundy’s ranch earlier this year.
Interior Secretary Sally Jewell on Monday highlighted news reports that said two apparent white supremacists who shot and killed three people in Las Vegas on Sunday may have joined militiamen from around the country at Cliven Bundy’s ranch earlier this year.
Asked by reporters at the Western Governors Association’s annual meeting here about the Interior Department’s approach to Bundy, Jewell said two police officers in Las Vegas were “gunned down by people that news reports say were also at the Bundy ranch.”
On Sunday, Jerad and Amanda Miller simultaneously executed two Las Vegas police officers in a pizza restaurant as the officers ate lunch, police officials told the Las Vegas Review-Journal. Jerad Miller covered the dead officers with a Gadsden flag and put a manifesto with a swastika on one of the officers’ bodies.
The Millers went to Bundy’s ranch, about 80 miles outside of Las Vegas, in April, they said on social media sites. But the militiamen shunned the couple because Jerad Miller had prior felony convictions in Washington State. Jerad Miller’s last note, posted on a social media site about seven hours before the shooting, read: “The dawn of a new day. May all our coming sacrifice be worth it.”
And here is Jared Miller's video rant...
Jerad Miller rant by aaron-gell
And from his facebook page...
Of course, what makes us wonder aloud is whether this "provocation" by a Bundy-ite as he is represented, will be sufficient to reignite the drama surrounding the Bundy ranch.
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I hope you and yours are doing well, pods. I've been enjoying your posts for years, going back to the DR days. I posted under a different (throw-away) handle there; one you might recognize.
You make a lot of great points in this thread, and make a lot of sense. I wish you were in the previous thread, when the high-fiving of the cop murders was happening. It was a moral cesspool in there. It's threads like those that make me want to leave Fight Club just like I left the Tea Party once it morphed from being a Ron Paul based school of thought to a Sarah Palin club. Guys like you, with your rational comments keep me around.
"I plagiarize from ZH all the time."
Your lawyer will be hearing from my lawyer.
The inflitration of ZH is becoming more apparent each day. The number of shills is obvious for any of us long time members. This event as small as it was in terms of number of deaths will do more to destroy free speech and anti government speech that anything so far.
They tried to take the guns after Sandy Hook and failed. Now they can simply silence our voice and we disappear into history as freedom loving "right wing nut jobs" when we disagree with the party line.
The forces of authority will definitely use this incident against the freedom movement. What people don't realize about Gandhi and MLK is that they weren't advocating non-violence because they wanted to be elected Jesus, they did it because nonviolence is a very powerful technique. Violence, by contrast, is often self-defeating, as in this case. We have only to compare the French and American revolutions to see that.
I agree. You waive your moral authority when you either advocate violence, bless it, or worse, engage in it. Ghandi had more guts than all of the cop-killer cheerleaders rolled into one. Violence takes far less courage than the blowhard insinuate it does. Non-violence is the ultimate in courage. See, you are defying the master, he's gonna beat the living shit out of you for no good reason, and by adhering to non-violence, there's nothing you can do about it. That takes balls.
But the other slaves will see the clear injustice of the beating, and there is no blurring of the lines. Eventually, they will become sympathetic to your cause, and realize that it is also THEIR cause. Good post.
His FB post could have been posted here on a daily basis by a couple dozen posters. Fuck he could have plagiarized it FROM ZH.
Funny that I read this here because it is TRUE. I have written many phrases as he did...WORD FOR WORD.
But somehow I believe that his FB Profile was not written by him but by an agent of the Government for media distribution.
Furthermore I have not ever dressed like the Joker, do not like Tweakers, do not use drugs, I am not a racist, and I do not kill cops.
"Furthermore I have not ever dressed like the Joker"
This is bad news for the cosplay crowd, not to mention furries and trekkers.
WTF Pods... Where has your skeptical nature gone? You are overthinking it, IMO, by trying to 'doubt the ZH consensus' and apply Occam's Razor type logic. The truth is, chutzpah means "the bigger the lie, the more likely people will believe it".
So here is the lie. The CIA isn't interested in mind control or patsies, or divide and conquer, or thesis-antithesis-synthesis Hegelian Dialectic type events...
It is a symptom: If everything they do and say is a lie, then nothing they say and do is believable.
Note: Boston and Sandy Hook were definitely false-flags.
So if the gubbmint says they are lying are they telling the truth? LOL....stole that from some old star trek episode. Forgot which. I think kirk fried an android with it.
I like to say: "It's not lying when it's all bullshit."
"You have to lie when its serious."
Some Fuck'n EU Cocksucker, I think?
I always tell the truth. Even when I lie. --Tony Montana
Sure, people just snap all the time... they don't get plastered in the news and used for the narrative that your neighbor is a government hating terrorist... you don't want people thinking you're a terrorist do you!?
I told my family a while back... expect an progressive increase in gun violence until you see something so horrific they get their way...
Real or not, it all plays into the narrative they want so you see it in the news. If it didn't, you wouldn't hear about it. Simple as that.
"Real or not, it all plays into the narrative they want so you see it in the news. If it didn't, you wouldn't hear about it. Simple as that."
Ever pass a really horrific accident scene? Notice how people slow down and gawk?
What the audience demands, the media delivers. They are whores who'll do anything for a buck.
Simple as that.
Snap? As a team sport, working together? This wasn't only ONE shooter, correct?
+2 Soul Glow & Mr Mister
James Holmes meet Sirhan Sirhan.
Why do all these wackos want to be the Joker not Batman?
I do not know. Perhaps there is something in the films that trigger this behavvior? (I have not seen Batman Movies nor do I intend to watch them.)
Perhaps you need to boycott Hollywood Movies.
/sarc
Vance Packard - The Hidden Persuaders.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vance_Packard#The_Hidden_Persuaders
In The Hidden Persuaders, first published in 1957, Packard explores the use of consumer motivational research and other psychological techniques, including depth psychology and subliminal tactics, by advertisers to manipulate expectations and induce desire for products, particularly in the American postwar era. He identified eight "compelling needs" that advertisers promise products will fulfill. According to Packard these needs are so strong that people are compelled to buy products to satisfy them. The book also explores the manipulative techniques of promoting politicians to the electorate. The book questions the morality of using these techniques.[1]
I'm betting on paired triggers. Just like the original joker's Smylex products, it's a combination and chances are "you bought 'em already!".
I wouldn't want to be caught dead using brand X.
I don't consume much mass-media, movies with commercials (at theater) and so on, so I haven't been exposed to the likely subliminal cues.
I'm generally immune anyhow but I sense the push when it's there. I'm thinking it takes time so it takes repeated exposure to many commercials and/or movie themes to get the kick moving even in those who are weak-minded.
makes a person wonder just how much mk-ultra might embedded throughout the populace?
This is yet another staged, false flag event brought to you by Sir Harry Reid and the obamaNation. Think about it- Walmarts are loaded with Camera's--where's all the footage on the news?
This is Harry Reid getting back at Cliven Bundy, making sure his kids get the Billion dollar energy deal from the Chiinese.
The corrupt beady eyed old lying fossil needs to have its skin sand papered off, buried in salt and then thrown out in the middle of the Nevada desert for the buzzrds.....
One could also interpret this as a message to the Las Vegas Metropolitian police...these were the guys that were actually working to deescalate the Bundy Ranch situation at every opportunity. They took over after the BLM/Feds had to tactically retreat.
A REALLY interesting rant. Particularly the way it articulates sentiments (the relationship between the people and the authorities) which just so happen to be held by a lot of people concerned about the general direction this country is moving. What better way to marginalize dissent?
Can't have the public forget the ultimate trooth1: yer with us or yer with the terrrrists.
1 Leave your brain under your pillow at night and the trooth-fairy will come visit & bring you a gift2!
2 and by gift I mean a no-knock warrant & flashbangs because yer a terrrrist.
fALsE FLaG !! FaLSe fLaG !!
When EVERYTHING is a FAlsE fLAg then something HAS to be BS. You tin foil hattErs need to pick your rants better to keep from looKing like tiN fOil haTteRS.
Safer to start with the assumption it is a false-flag imho. The thing is, it all plays into the narrative they want... so you hear about it in the media. They're certainly not above exploiting a real incident for their own gain. So, whether it's for real or not, it all plays into thier narrative, just saves them the trouble of faking another incidence themselves.
Yeah, the people in power probably don't even have an agenda. Why would they even actively be working towards consolidating their power? They certainly aren't spying on us....
Classic potential for a Psy Ops case: Get some unstable loser, feed him BS, give him weed laced with "special stuff" (e.g., ergot, LSD), wait a bit or rinse & repeat, and off he goes.
This is done a LOT easier than people/sheeple and the MSM suspect.
It's even easier with MK-ULTRA...
That is MK ultra.
This was another FALSE FLAG. It's so phucking obvious.
The US Government is the enemy, not Clive Bundy or anyone standing up for him.
They even used flags this time!
how dare you diss raspect der flag soldier
der god daMN Flag was real.
it was not false it was flyin high like the mighty americun eagle
Sooo you are a performance artist?
buh....buh....buh.... TER'RISTS! Sovereign citizen muslim comyoonists!
Why Didn't the NSA prevent this!?
so they've been honest about not surveilling american citizens. go figure...
or this was a false flag as a way to demonize the gadsen flag, liberty movement, tea party, freedom lovers, etc that was planned by TPTB. In that case they may have pushed too far with this method as we can see that a growing consensus no longer believes anything the goverment does or says and furthermore would surmise that the said crooks are acting against us. e.g. nsa, son of a whore harry, etc.
If this is an engineered problem to which they already have the solution, eric holders "domestic radicalization" internet task force may be visiting "us" soon.
If this premise is correct then they are using a Hegalian dilectic to lead us down the path they desire, which may not be the life, liberty, and pursuid of burger we americans are use too.
Solution > Problem > Synthesis
repeat
much cloak and daggers
Long Brawndo, its got electrolytes.
The waters are being tested. From Hudes going on about quasi-humans to "liberty" folk going on a "revolucion" to wipe out Wal-mart shoppers, it looks like it's a way to both test for new crazies to fall along in and to immediately spread newz-storeez to begin the propaganda.
Because we all know zee Reichstag Fire waz zee terrorizm und vee must defend zee fadderland. Yah? Yah.
Why Didn't the NSA prevent this!?
Because their job is to gather information to use against us; nothing to do with helping us. Not saying this is fact, but it looks more like the truth every time these events accompany digital information first.
Why prevent something they want!
Let's all put our shocked faces on and pretend like we didn't see this coming.
Really now, don't you think we've all had just about enough theater?
[Might I look at your program? I seem to have misplaced mine...]
Afraid they're only getting started, just building up to the main event... which I suspect will be so horrific they will be able to automatically shut any opposition down with some simple non-sequitor suggestion that if you're not against gun control... then you must be for killing babies.
Some sheriff departments are for both - gun control AND killing (trying too anyway) babies.
The overture is just dying down. The first act is coming up fast. Spoiler alert: it's a tragedy.
When some are pushed to the breaking point, they break.
The end of life as we know it is going to involve some ugly stuff.
Of course the 4th branch of government is going to be there to reinforce the status quo.
pods
Funny he'd mention the "Drone Mag".
Check this out.
Jesus glad I gave up bowhunting. They used to be called "punchcutter" broadheads. We never used them because for one, I would never be sure they would open on contact and two, our bows were tuned where we shot cutting edge broadheads. Guess these look sexier.
Now Adams speaks about them being available on gasp, Amazon. (I actually receive daily emails from natural news)
Guess I am glad that I have stopped reading Mike's hysterical rants. Sells clicks but he has started to swing too hard. I liked his place he had setup in SA though. Think it was Ecuador IIRC. Cool bug out place.
pods
This Brave New World is getting really fucked up! If humanity gained wisdom faster than knowledge, instead of the other way around, it would not pursue development of drones, facial recognition, etc.
not good.
very not good.
Gun confiscation will trigger war.
Stop pushing or else.
Some say that's their objective. How else will they get the public behind tearing up the Constitution?
They will shut down the bullet makers and sellers first. That is when you know it's on like DK.
Typical big internet talk.
I always wondered when Francis Sawyer would go off...
Nah. He'd go on a "Jews done it" rant, not this.
Because jews did it.
What a moron, not that condoning this action is intent at all, but why shoot the cops? its like shooting a messenger, I dont think dim bulb covers the lack of insight I am seeing.
That is the gut reaction to any of these events.
Same was said about Joe Stack. Killed the poor cleaning people, etc.
pods
Agreed. He makes good points about the surveillance state, drones, authoritarianism, penal industrial complex, but his execution was, in two words: Retarded and Tragic.
monkey see, monkey do.
"justin bourque" went and killed 3 cops and injured 2 in a small canadian town a few days ago.
jason bourne?
Great idea, right? Put on your camo, and then walk two feet off the sidewalk, through the suburbs, carrying your guns...
Really?
Oh, geez, yeah, now the entire Bundy stand-off will be relegated to "white nazis". What stupid losers these were, they couldn't have been scripted better.
I'll pass your comliments to the script writers.
See ? I told you so. All White Males are Nazi Terrorist. Harry Reid says so.
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I am fairly certain half the "assholes in camo" stirring up trouble for the IMF regime in the Ukraine by defending their rights and freedom may have also joined militiamen at Cliven Bundy's ranch. Next thing you know, ol' Cliven will be trying to price and sell his beef in any currency but the USD; or worse yet, exchange it for [gasp] GOLD.
This kind of nonsense is pathetic and predictable.
God forbid he test it & make a BSE free claim to command top ruble/yuan.
Jewll: "There ain't nuthin uglier than an old white woman." Fred Sanford, Sanford and Son
Violence never fixes problems. .it makes it worse.
Until it doesn't.
What problems has violence not solved?
Geee, what a surprise.
Uh, yeah, the dumbass in the video didnt write that FB post. This quick link to the Bundy Ranch has false flag written all over it. Now Harry Reid can procede with getting DHS to go full military on Bundy.
My thoughts exactly, gotta find a way to link violent crime to the Bundy ranch. That way next time they ( dept of Interior robo cops) will have the "right" to gun them all down...
What a bunch of horse shit!
"Give me six lines written by an honest man, and I will get you evidence to hang him."
Cardinal Richeleau.
'pimp hand' was strong with that one...
The Cardinal almost single-handedly brought down the Holy Roman Empire (the 30 years War, the first World War)
Of course innocents had to die for 30 years, first from Sweden, then from Germany, then some Russians, then some Dutch, then finally the French intervened...
like snowdon this walking psy op says nothing.
walks and talks around the houses.
nothing is real anymore
if any of it was real.
if it has an msm voice it is fake or passed 2 play.
over hundred years of tavistock technique billions in funding and this fucking slanted eyed space cadet is the best they can do.
robbie parker where are you
I like to laugh to get loose before my act, I mean, before my big interview, alright. Whats the big deal?
That's Nice Stuff.
The US government is totally lost. They run from the one incident to the other to accuse the US citizens that don't want to be enslaved.
Just in time for Holder's Domestic Terrorist Task Force to make an example of pretty much anyone who expresses contrarian views. Things are about to get very uncomfortable for a lot of people.
Follow the Money here. Ken Salazar is in thick with Harry Reid, whose son will make millions on chinese energy deal, just need to relocate bundy in order to run power line access. Chinese are promised all 'mericans will be removed from said land.
Scty Jewell is just another stooge for Reid. "May be a connection"??
So a Cabinet leader for the Obama administration just falsely told reporters that they were at the ranch with Bundy, when it fact they were turned away. I'm sure the media will be very quick to correct her...
WMD... just like it's always been, just like it's always been...
For any law enforcement officers here, and the NSA, GCHQ, listen.
False flag, outright bullshit, lies and distortion just dont cut it no more.
Us, We, The great unwashed, the people who you are paid to protect and fucking serve.
We 'Will', be, heard.
Now you better let that sink in you cunts, and you better get that through your thicker than leads heads.
Your time time is running short.
Think, and act, and 'Justify' your actions as you see fit you imbeciles.
You. Have. Been. Warned.
The dam is going to break. be on the right side of it, for once in your wasted lives.
Violence is not inevitable. Look at how the Soviet Union, and their east-European satellites, collapsed. No civil war, as in the Bolshevik revolution, and not much violence at all. Look at how Colorado has legalized marijuana, and the Feds have not been able to prevent it. Hell, look at all the support that Bundy got, from a broad swath of average Americans.
People are losing their tolerance for Federal bullying, and this incident will not reverse that trend. Let's just hope that the Feds don't panic and stumble into another Ruby Ridge or Waco Massacre.
There are no political solutions. Violence is inevitable as it happened during the breakup of the Soviet Union. The Organized Crime Gangs took control and exacted revenge and mob justice..
Your level of participation is up to you.
I am not advocating violence. But I am delivering a message as to what is to follow.
Oh boy. When the Revolution actually is here. We ain't going to know who is fucking who. What a mess it will be.
anything that says "bank" on it...open up and empty the chambers...
commence firing...fire at will.....
Guess it's time for me to stop volunteering at the blood bank and the food bank (and maybe stop shopping at Jos. A. Bank, just to be extra safe).
DING DING!!
If the "Revolution" takes place, you (and me) won't want to be anywhere near it.
It might not even be real.. They could just have a lottery with Mobile emid's
Lob Hellfires into the Winner(s) houses and say "They were planning a major attack: We had to move quick for the Greater Good"
Hand out fat checks to slackjawed and hearing damaged Neighbors and "Fact Sheets" on the newly Destroyed to the Media.
No further inquirey need be made as the whole matter is now under "National Security"
It'd serve to keep the sheep rooting for the Establishment even though they are in the "Terrorist Lottery" themselves.
Kinda far fetched I guess... But we do "Live in Disneyland" ya know?
If "Revolution" is real:
Imagine it would look like "the siege of Sarajevo" But on a much larger scale.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siege_of_Sarajevo
Meets Eastern Ukraine (Air Power, Mercenary Ground Support, Shifty Shit going on with the National Loot Pile leaving on Jet-planes, Etc.)
Meets MASS Localized and possibly National Social Breakdown.
But Yeah Man, It'll be a Giant Fucking Mess.
Most of the bell curve will not find it a rewarding or desireable experience.
"Imagine it would look like 'the siege of Sarajevo' But on a much larger scale."
The Serbs' strategy during the siege was known as "Fry the Brain", as detailed here:
Fry The Brain: The Art of Urban Sniping and its Role in Modern Guerrilla Warfare
http://www.amazon.com/Fry-The-Brain-Sniping-Guerrilla/dp/0971413398
One thing I recall reading about was how people would come to the hills surrounding the city and pay the military for the privilege of being able to take pot shots at the inhabitants for sport. Good times.
This guy lived through that siege and has some interesting tales to tell, as well as a lot of practical wisdom to share:
http://shtfschool.com/
Almost as bad as the giant plane that can't be found but we can locate 200 kidknaped girls with satalites.Read my lips, we don't believe you. Harry and crew, you can fool some of the people all the time but your not fooling some of us anytime.
It is straight up hilarious reading the so-called 'accounts' of the plane's disappearance. Like they genuinely want you to consider the possibility "Hey, it could have just straight up disappeared, OK? No one knows. Its a mystery. Stop worrying about. Geez, no one knows, like I said. It could have disappeared into thin air..."
Why did no reporters go to Diego Garcia in the day or two after the plane went missing? Hell, why has no one checked there even now? Oh, its restricted access, and the US and British gov't say to trust them, they don't know anything about that whole disappearing airplane...
interesting how the MSM slides the phrase "white supremist".
the guy's rant sounds more like he just hates the government.
"...enemies we face are indeed our brothers..."
just saying.
tragic
Didn't you know when you hate government you are a 'white supremacist'
Idiot Morons ... they will cost us all very dearly and diminish the work of thousands who are standing up to the fascists.
That should tell you something... cui bono. Seems more likely it's a staged event with the intent of branding anyone who opposes the government as "crazy".
cowardly assholes. put their carcasses on a pike in the middle of the desert.
They already are in the middle of the desert. Oh, you mean away from the concrete, asphalt, glass, neon, whales, hookers and blow.
Lights, Camera, action!
It seems like these staged false flags are the ruling class's new means of controlling the idiot masses.
Hard to say whether staged, but for sure TPTB know how to use such events to their advantage. Has there ever been a case in which a tragedy has ended up generating a reduction/laxation of rules/laws? It's this reason why I never cheer/advocate for/of such things.
'It's a warzone in the US': Indiana sheriff explains why he deployed heavy armor in his county
http://rt.com/usa/164816-american-police-militarization-war/
My dear American friends, those horrible vids that you used to watch on TV from Iraq, Syria, Libya, Pakistan, Afghanistan, Ukraine, Kosovo, Serbia... those very same scenes you will be living at home. Your goverment knows that it isn't a question of IF, it is a question of WHEN. Are you ready?
Meanwhile bacteria are gaining an upper "hand" and you're preparing how?
I often wonder whether we might not have things backwards, that the FEMA camps might be for TPTB's servants and that those outside of the camps' gates might be hung out to dry. One can quarantine and administer in such consolidated environments as the camps might serve, and pitty those that don't have access to life-saving remedies...
You first.
That thought had occured to me also.
Somewhere safe to put their families whilst disposing off anyone capable of
critical thinking, a la Pol Pot.
Never voiced it just in case I gave them the idea. The guillotines and coffins/crematoria m
ade me think otherwise for the original purpose.
Yes, that's why the razor-wire point inward... so they can keep their servants from escaping.
in the emerald isles where der lovely irish lived.
a hole in der earth was made soil was excavated.
by the time they got to the bottom the hole had over 800 dead babies in it and kids
plus spare arms and legs without torso.
the remains of catholic church days but mainly dark ritualistic nights.
the story hardly gets a mention.
i wonder jesuit jew masonic why?
time to dig up the grounds of all these places.
so we can bury these satanists down
I read that also. Many died of malnutrition/starvation or so it says.
There's a lot more than this location.
I heard it was 'cause they ran out of potatoes.
This guy sounds like 90% of the idiots that post on the comment section everyday. An angry nobody with a false sense of purpose. Hilarious
Nice. Another "been here for weeks" shithead. Before about 40 weeks ago, the conjecture was sound and informative but it seems that we have a new class of fuckwads that paint with a broad brush and obfuscate good conversation....by design? Please shut the fuck up and add good content or try some other fucking site. Are there shitheaded comments, like yours, from time to time?...yes. They allow people to cuss and speak their mind unlike other sites. if I had a nickel fro all of the "new assholes" with somewhere between 15-40 weeks on here i could by a pork sandwich. Go away. Do you troll other sites you seem to loathe or do you serve someone's purpose? I hate Huffpo and do not hang around. Obviously you are here to serve a purpose.
mrtwenty6 been here for 33 weeks 4 days
Fuck you, plant.
Sorry I dont impress you with my epeen. Clearly, with over a year on ZH, your fanatic position is clearly validated haha.
That is a hell of a manifesto, I look forward to your encore on the 10 o clock news. I'll be interested to see what flag you plant ha
My only desire is solid conversation, which you obviously do not provide. I made no comment on this scum bag psycho. Shut the fuck up or at least provide value. As for this douche, he obviously had problems and the folks at Bundy Ranch recognized that and turned him away. He was a troubled man. You are a shithead.
You know where they are going with this next.
http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/attorney-general-eric-holder-revives...
Harry wants that land badly to make money off of it and Obama would love to force active military members into shooting veterans after declaring them terrists aka oathkeepers for being involved with the Bundy Ranch and possibly still have their people there watching over things.
http://usacac.army.mil/cac2/call/docs/10-16/ch_11.asp
...
Disturbance Plan (GARDEN PLOT) is the implementing document for Military Support of Civil Disturbances (MACDIS). This is the most recent approved plan, and it contains organizational arrangements and assignments that have changed significantly with the creation in 2003 of the Assistant Secretary of Defense for Homeland Defense, the Northern Command (NORTHCOM), and the transfer of the Directorate of Military Support to the Joint Staff. (See Department of Defense Civil Disturbance Plan, 15 February 1991; a new version is under preparation.)
While recognizing that the primary responsibility for "protection of life and property and the maintenance of law and order" within the United States rests with local and state governments, this plan sets forth the conditions and procedures for the "employment of federal military forces to control civil disturbances..." GARDEN PLOT sets forth four instances in which federal forces may be used:
The basic concept of operations is spelled out in the civil disturbance plan in Annex C. The President may direct the employment of federal military forces for domestic civil disturbance operations for a major disturbance or for multiple civil disturbances. The plan envisions a probable order of employment of forces as follows: local and state police, National Guard on state active duty, federal civil law enforcement officers, and finally federal military forces.
GARDEN PLOT makes it clear that the limitations that courts have ordered on federal military troops are superfluous and irrelevant when the President orders the DOD to use military troops in civil disturbances. It appears that DOD has promulgated two sets of policies: one using the modern revised version of the Posse Comitatus Act as a shield against using troops to enforce the laws actively, and another using presidential authority to use troops to enforce the laws when it really becomes necessary to do so. This bifurcated policy may have been acceptable in earlier times when the United States was a secure base from which to wage expeditionary warfare abroad, but is does not make sense when the United States is itself a theater of war.
...
They are already getting ready to attack their new boogeyman.....
http://www.nytimes.com/2014/06/09/us/war-gear-flows-to-police-department...
You saw how effective cheaply improvised devices like moltov cocktails are against these things.
Frankly I don't see a problem with things like body armor it is another thing when Barney Fife is riding around in a tank because they are scared some terrorist might just attack maybe never but just in case so we need this shit that is where people should be drawing the line. What then when some enterprising individuals start stealing these things and causing havoc for starters. These local assclowns shouldn't even have any need for this shit in the first place if America minded it's fucking business and kept it's nose out of everyone elses in the first place and even then the only local police that should really have this sort of weaponry if the locals can't have the same is the national guard....
LIke this is anything new? So they now codify it. Don't you know that laws have never really mattered when it comes to POWER?
It's like years ago when someone I knew was writting about all sorts of covert govt shit. They guy was obsessed, spent countless hours writting all sorts of nitty-gritty things. I'd like go, "and? and what are you proposing to do about it?" In the end I stated that "secrecy kills;" he was someone who swore that it was necessary to matain some State secrets for defense/protection (his brainwashing in military intel wouldn't allow him to let go of this notion).
Much of this is ammo to rally Party Pussies.
Why do they call it the "lunatic fringe?" Far as I can tell, it's everywhere.
So pizza eateries are the new donut shops. Good to know that one. I bet you it was all you can eat too.
The cops may have had other flaws I don't know about, but be fair, they were not fat.
This only results in giving MORE power to TPTB!
If you want to upset the applecart then don't feed it!
This goes to show you why jumping on ANY old bandwagon might not be a wise idea. Bundy was a horrible poster-child, and now it all serves as a great tool to turn back on us all.
Not in defense of "cops," but what if those that were executed were privately prepping to get out of the system? We might not ever know. And, I don't like it when the Govt engages in extra-judicial killings, I therefore don't approve of anyone outside of govt doing the same.
The MSM is going to paint this in favor of their paymasters, TPTB.
Lastly, why the fuck is ANYONE in Vegas?
So what is the point of killing cops when you have a 'cause'? Cops are expendable (to TPTB), there will be other cops and the cops take orders. It is just like these people who lose their job and/or house and go on a killing spree in a shopping mall or who put themselves on fire. They only kill the innocent who have no guilt to their situation. Utterly pointless.
LOL
Even if they did go to the Bundy ranch, that wouldn't make the resistance to tyranny at the Bundy ranch wrong.
Of course the propaganda media and their pol and crat masters will say different.
"Out tyranny good, resistance bad."
Well that is 5 mins I can not get back. It was just as I expected a dope head rant. We are so screwed.
Cop hating, white supremacist's = inbred morons. And how do you fight a "revolution" by offing yourself. The chicken shit way out.
A self-immolation sparked a revolution in Tunisia.
Yes, but self-immolations don't usually involve killing member of "authority" (which tend to be counter-productive). Self-immolations are the height of opting out of what one sees as a bad system in the hopes of spurring change: I don't necessarily think one way or the other about how successful this is; one can look at how fucked up India is now and wonder whether Ghandi's efforts really made any difference (other than changing the colors on the flag).
Bouazizi was a martyr, not a murderer.
The Millers went to Bundy’s ranch, about 80 miles outside of Las Vegas, in April, they said on social media sites. But the militiamen shunned the couple because Jerad Miller had prior felony convictions in Washington State. Jerad Miller’s last note, posted on a social media site about seven hours before the shooting, read: “The dawn of a new day. May all our coming sacrifice be worth it.
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Guilt by association then next will most likely be their argument to go after these people at the Bundy Ranch. But goes to show they did do some screening to keep out the agent provocateurs and loose cannons like these 2.
The biggest factor in the murder spree was the METH, not their political affiliation with America and the US Constitution.
For the METH thank Harry Reid and his donors Sheldon Adelson (money launderer for gambler Ye Gon, world's biggest METH DEALER) and Di Fi she's on the METH COMMITTEE.
http://www.celebritynetworth.com/articles/entertainment-articles/meet-me...
BTW neither Bush nor Obama ever prosecuted Mr Gon, his wearabouts are unknown after helping the DOJ extort money and support from Adelson.
It is well known that Adelson is a supporter of Republican candidates, Smitty.
Why bother with "names" when it's the System?
Catherine Austin Fitts has some nice info on how the drugs+development shit goes down. Sheeh, people always make it look like this is some new revelation (usually the Party Pussy folks, who are only using it to attack their political opponents).
Gin it up, spin it up! You see!!! The propaganda was right. We needed homeland security all along. OH YEAH and those gun purchases by the government are COMPLETELY JUSTIFIED and secret internment, and no trial and no search warrant, and no right to an lawyer, and the right to be tortured, and the right to be spied on... ALL JUSTIFIED!!!
Finally, some good news. We need to start right now rounding up ALL the guns. My neighbor to start: he LOOKED at me funny!!!! God Bless Bloomberg, oops, I mean G*D bless Feinstein. I believe it's against the law for you to talk to anybody, period!!! Thow him in the slammer!!!
People are inherently BAD, BAD, BAD! Even God said, I mean G*d said. I feel threatened by you... ship him off! Ship you off!!!
Don't you dare look at me funny!
Curiously, Bundy is a Mormon. Just like Harry Reid and Glen Beck and Mitt Romney.
now that's a good vein to explore. . .
The CIA and the FBI have Mormon recruitment programs.and ten other tidbits of truth. . .
not included, but worth considering - more jobs for the boys. . .
That thar bastard next door looked at me with bullets in 'iz eyes!
Therefore, firearms offense.
Therefore, no-knock warrant & SWAT.
Therefore, freedumb.
Murrikka, FUCK YEAH!
Thanks to Captain Benny for the quick identification of the hero in this event, Joe Wilcox. And thanks to barliman and others emphasizing that the militiamen at the Bundy Ranch had shunned the couple.
We face unparalleled propaganda against our culture by the Left and the banking cartel that keeps us from getting any representation from public officials.
To be white and to live in Arizona would have been enough for this government and its media to try to bring down the white race but to go on social media and brag about your insanity and even attempt to go the Bundy Ranch is manna for outfits like the Washington Post, giving it just enough traction to spread the Left's hatred of whites and its propaganda all over the news.
Don’t forget that the word “Bundy” is the key to the racist attacks encouraged by this government and if any activity can be labeled “Bundy” it is used as justification to find guilty the entire white race.
Before Americans are displaced from the land that their fathers settled, they must break the monopoly that has so seized the government that we Americans have lost any representation in the land that we founded.
Its been extremely hard to find out details on Joe Wilcox because everyone is so tight lipped about it. They originally said it was a woman dead in the Walmart and that was the story for nearly 18 hours. I hope the family honors him by defending his choice to carry, his choice to make an effort to stop a mass shooting, and his choice to take a stand. I carry every day, just like Joe. I can see myself being in nearly the exact same situation .... I wouldn't be caught dead in a Walmart! (har har! couldn't help but crack a joke)
Before Americans are displaced from the land that their fathers settled, they must break the monopoly that has so seized the government that we Americans have lost any representation in the land that we founded.
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The land that was stolen from the Indians and handed down to 'americans' for them to settle?
What the government gives, the government can take.
In the face of the greatest nation that was ever established, with the unparalleled emphasis on individual freedom, religious and moral foundations, property rights and poliltical representation and the most dynamic economy that had ever been established, you would return to the Indian tribes for your argument. It behooves all of us to concentrate on the freedoms and opportunities we've been given and that are now in mortal danger from the tyrants. But if you would like to descend back to select a point in history to argue, there's more to the story than you would have us believe.
“Indian forever killed Indian long before the coming of the white man…”-- Louis L’Amour
In fact, the settlers had good friends among the Indians, but when they became friendly with one nation, they naturally became an enemy of those nations’ enemies whether they wanted to to or not.
As for the Sioux, they were skilled at high-speed mounted warfare and greatly feared by other tribes. They were constantly moving west, gaining more and more land and displacing other Indian tribes.
“Historically the Apache bands supplemented their economy by raiding others and practiced warfare to avenge a death of a kinsman. The Apache bands were adept at fighting and highly elusive in the environments of desert and canyons.” – American Indian Wars, Wikipedia
The way one of Louis L’Amour’s western heroes put it: “A man’s only king as long as folks let him be…
“Some folks take to running. Some folks hope that by backing up far enough they’ll not have trouble, but it surely doesn’t work. I’d ridden all over the Rio Grande, Mogollon, Mimbres, La Plata, and Mesa Verde country and what I saw was a lesson.
“The Indians there were good Indians, planting Indians. For a long time they lived in peace and bothered nobody, and then Navajo-Apache tribes came migrating down the east side of the Rockies. They found a way west without climbing over the mountains. Those nice, peaceful tribes along the Rio Grande were shoved right off the map. Some were killed, some fled to western lands and built cliff house, but you couldn’t escape by running. The Navajo followed them right along, killing and destroying. Had they banded together under a good leader and waited they might have held the Navajo off, but when danger showed a family or group of families would slip away to avoid trouble, and those left would be too few to hold off the enemy.
“Finally, most of them were killed, the cliff houses fell into ruins, the irrigation projects they’d started fell apart. The wild tribes from out of the wilderness had again won a battle over the planting peoples…so it had always been….”
As for extinction of the buffalo herds, by the mid-eighteen hundreds of buffalo hides dominated the Indian fur trade. The demise of the large buffalo herds is often blamed on the white man, but Indians contributed a great deal to it as well.” All this is according to O. Ned Eddins in Mountain Man Fur Trade Exploration History
Ultimately, according to L’Amour, the Indians were defeated by the traders; they made him want things he could not produce himself – like rifles and ammunition: “The Indian had to trade or steal to get the rifles and other things he wanted that the white man had…The first white trader who came to the Indians brought their doom in his pack.”
Regardless, wrote L’Amour: “The Indians that the white man met were no more the original inhabitants of the country than were the Normans and Saxons the original inhabitants of England. Other peoples had come and gone before, leaving only their shadows upon the land…”
…which is to say, the Indians drove out others who preceded them in the land that the Pilgrims came to settle.
Yep. +1 The Commanches aka "Lords of the Plains" were the most brutal and warlike of the tribes. They almost wiped out the Apaches in the late 18th century, who were no slouches. They brought the Spanish colonization of America to a halt.
Their relatively large Comancheria empire (encompassing 250,000 square miles, including parts of what is today Texas, Oklahoma, New Mexico, Colorado and Kansas) wasn't gained through peaceful coexistance with other tribes. Their whole society revolved around warfare and plunder. They were the Mongols of the American Southwest. They were slavers. Torture of enemies (like roasting or skinning people alive) wasn't just for terror but for giggles. Commanche squaws were typically in charge of the torturing of captives, including women, children and the old. All adult males captured alive were tortured. Women captured alive were gang raped. Babies routinely butchered. The Commanches were merciless.
"No tribe in the history of the Spanish, French, Mexican, Texan, and American occupations of this land had ever caused so much havoc and death. None was even a close second."
~S.C. Gwynn, Empire of the Summer Moon
I blame the Spaniards for introducing horses to North America.
Fucking weapons of mass destruction!
oh, that's funny.
You still believe in "left" and "right"
How about Santa Claus?