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Little By Little, We Went Insane

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Submitted by Tim Price via Sovereign Man blog,

“Are we finished ? The answer is no.”

 

- Mario Draghi, President of the European Central Bank, 5th June 2014, having just cut ECB deposit rates to minus 0.1 percent.

 

“The first panacea for a mismanaged nation is inflation of the currency; the second is war. Both bring a temporary prosperity; both bring a permanent ruin. But both are the refuge of political and economic opportunists.”

 

- Ernest Hemingway.

 

“The way to crush the bourgeoisie is to grind them between the millstones of taxation and inflation.”

 

- Vladimir Lenin.

If it looks like insanity, smells like insanity, tastes like insanity, feels like insanity and struts about barking, “This is insanity”, then perhaps it might just be insanity.

“We were in the jungle. We had too much money. We had too much equipment. And little by little, we went insane.”

Not the words of Mario Draghi – yet. They are the words of film director Francis Ford Coppola in relation to his magnum opus, ‘Apocalypse Now’, a film that so outrageously exploded beyond its budget and beyond any reasonable compass that during its making it started being referred to as ‘Apocalypse Later’.

Coppola’s unique vision came at a price. What was expected to be a 14-week shoot in the Philippines ended up taking more than a year. Coppola fired his leading man, Harvey Keitel, after just two weeks. His replacement, Martin Sheen, turned out to be fighting alcohol addiction and suffered a heart attack on set.

Numerous members of the crew went down with tropical diseases. At key points, helicopters hired for pivotal action sequences were suddenly redirected to quell a revolt in the southern Philippines. Then a typhoon hit, the set was destroyed and the production was shut down.

Throughout all of it, Coppola was dealing with increasingly worried money men back in Hollywood as the film’s budget ran dry. As the film’s scriptwriter, John Milius, pointed out: “Studio executives, you know, are not noted for their social courage”.

And then Marlon Brando arrived on set, so hugely overweight as to be almost unrecognisable. He didn’t have the barest knowledge of the script. Then he shaved all his hair off and insisted on improvising all of his scenes.

And there were actual dead bodies on the set, bought to add some ‘atmosphere’ from a local who turned out to be a grave-robber.

Coppola had sunk his own life savings into the film. He faced financial ruin if he couldn’t finish it. He suffered a nervous breakdown and on at least three separate occasions allegedly threatened to commit suicide.

“My movie is not about Vietnam,” he once explained, “my movie is Vietnam.”

The markets are not about Vietnam. They are Vietnam. There’s a difference, of course. When a film studio runs out of capital, the production gets shut down.

Corporate resources can only ever be finite. But when a government runs out of capital, it simply borrows more. Or taxes more. Or both. At least for as long as it has access to credit by way of maintaining the confidence of the bond market.

Practically every western government has got its finances into a desperate mess. In the words of US fund manager Paul Singer of Elliott Management, “America is deeply insolvent, and for that matter, so are most of continental Europe, the UK and Japan.”

For as long as governments can perpetuate the illusion of solvency, they can continue to borrow, and therefore also to spend. But once the illusion is broken…

We all know that Japan is drowning in debt, which makes Japanese Government Bonds about the most dangerous asset in the world right now, especially given the Bank of Japan’s pledge to double its monetary base, ensuring that holders of JGBs will be paid back in ever less valuable currency.

But the vulnerability of the UK’s creditworthiness is less widely appreciated. Pimco’s Bill Gross, still clinging on to the $229 billion remaining in his Total Return bond fund, referred to UK Gilts as “resting on a bed of nitroglycerine” as far back as 2010.

The UK is hardly alone in running its national treasury on empty. Not one single major western government possesses a stable balance sheet. Everybody has thrown caution to the winds, in the illusory hope that ultimately somebody will pay.

If you hold western government bonds, that somebody is likely to be you.

Actions have consequences. Governments are no different from individuals or corporations or film studios in this respect – they can merely perpetuate the myth of solvency for longer, given the credulity of global capital markets and of agency investors with no real skin in the game in their bond portfolios.

But at some point, the piper must be paid. Which is why every major western government is determined to inflate, and pay the piper (bondholders) in ever more worthless paper money.

And this is why Mario Draghi has now driven interest rates to below zero. The natural corollary to universal currency debasement is to own a currency and durable store of value that cannot be printed on demand. If only we could find one.

 

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Mon, 06/09/2014 - 16:41 | 4838445 I MISS KUDLOW
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i'd already be insane but for the blog ZH and its people who comment the last 5 years

Mon, 06/09/2014 - 16:46 | 4838464 Omegaman2211
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Too fucking true.

Mon, 06/09/2014 - 16:49 | 4838482 Buckaroo Banzai
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Maybe we've always been insane, but we're only just beginning to notice.

Mon, 06/09/2014 - 16:53 | 4838500 BobPaulson
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Not an ideal comparison, because the movie turned out amazingly well.

Mon, 06/09/2014 - 17:06 | 4838528 NemoDeNovo
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The Rationalization Hamster is #Winning, understand it and the insanity will make sense.......

Mon, 06/09/2014 - 17:27 | 4838591 macholatte
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A question that sometimes drives me hazy: am I or are the others crazy?

Albert Einstein

 

'Crazy' is a term of art; 'Insane' is a term of law. Remember that, and you will save yourself a lot of trouble.

Hunter S. Thompson

 

My psychiatrist told me I was crazy and I said I want a second opinion. He said okay, you're ugly too.

Rodney Dangerfield

 

Grant stood by me when I was crazy, and I stood by him when he was drunk, and now we stand by each other.

William Tecumseh Sherman

 

I hate to advocate drugs, alcohol, violence, or insanity to anyone, but they've always worked for me.

Hunter S. Thompson

 

Mon, 06/09/2014 - 17:37 | 4838610 Bollixed
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My mother did counseling at Saint Elizebeth's Hospital in Wash, DC back in the 1960's. It was a large mental institution. She gave me a good piece of advice back then. I was frustrated over something and she just looked at me and said, "Remember, half the people in Saint Elizebeth's are right..."

Mon, 06/09/2014 - 18:00 | 4838675 Joe Sixpack
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Einstein? Cosmology? Insanity.

 

Top Scientists Freak Out Over New Documentary Questioning Copernican Principle- Which They Appeared In!

http://beforeitsnews.com/science-and-technology/2014/06/top-scientists-f...

Mon, 06/09/2014 - 21:03 | 4839205 medium giraffe
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Geocentrism! Lol!

That has to be some of the most ignorant shit I've ever heard. It's possible to demonstrate the Earth's rotation using a fucking pendulum.

 

The stupid. It burns.

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foucault_pendulum

Tue, 06/10/2014 - 10:46 | 4840517 StandardDeviant
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If you're ever in Paris, do have a look at the pendulum at the Musée des Arts et Métiers -- the same one that plays a key role in Umberto Eco's eponymous book.  (The museum is well worth the visit too, as is the nearby Métro station; all very steampunk.)

Tue, 06/10/2014 - 16:43 | 4841891 medium giraffe
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Oh, very cool.  Love the metro station.  Thanks SD, will certainly make the detour if I'm nearby.

Mon, 06/09/2014 - 18:45 | 4838817 logicalman
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Way back when I was a kid (I'm a Brit, for context), my grandfather said to me 'All the world's mad, except for me and thee.

And I'm not so sure about thee!

Obvously, I never forgot it.

 

Mon, 06/09/2014 - 19:07 | 4838875 Henry Chinaski
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I'm not crazy. You're the one that's crazy.

http://youtu.be/qr1IwU3yfys

 

So you're gonna be institutionalized
You'll come out brainwashed with bloodshot eyes
You won't have any say
They'll brainwash you until you see their way.

I'm not crazy - institutionalized
You're the one who's crazy - institutionalized
You're driving me crazy - institutionalized

Mon, 06/09/2014 - 20:13 | 4839082 WhackoWarner
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ALWAYS REMEMBER reading Fear and Loathing for the first time.  I did not get past his description of what exactly was "in the trunk of the car".  And that was in the late 60's?? when the stuff in the trunk was not that exotic.

 

Right now.  What used to be exotic opinion here at ZH  always made sense to me.  So whom, exactly, is crazy?

 

Tue, 06/10/2014 - 07:06 | 4839863 TheMerryPrankster
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Whom is crazy is always at the whim of who defines crazy.

Madness and clarity in equal measure and everyone of us crazy in our own ways.

To be sane in an insane world is madness.

we are who we are whatever that may be.

The paper holds their folded faces to the floor and everyday the paper boy brings more....

Mon, 06/09/2014 - 17:39 | 4838623 Harbanger
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Insanity is thinking that an FRN is "worth" anything, or it can be expecting Hope and Change from progressives, or it can be hating authority and expecting the Gov to do something.

Mon, 06/09/2014 - 18:02 | 4838677 Bangin7GramRocks
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I may be crazy, but what if the G20 get together in a few years and decide to so a pre-emotive "reset". They jointly announce a world wide debt jubilee. All government debt becomes 0. If you have a bond, tough titty. This would fuck the people, but end the pesky debt mess. Problem solved! And don't worry, the big banks, Warren Buffet and the other billionaires around the world will get advance warning of the action. The rich will get richer and the apocalypse will never come. Same as it ever was.....

Mon, 06/09/2014 - 16:55 | 4838502 Number 156
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Im not crazy. Everybody thinks im crazy but IM NOT CRAZY!

Mon, 06/09/2014 - 17:09 | 4838547 pods
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People used to see me as nuttier than a shithouse rat.  

Now, well, they still see me as nuttier than a shithouse rat but they ask my opinions on world events and where to buy silver.

Can't win them all I guess?

pods

Mon, 06/09/2014 - 17:10 | 4838550 Headbanger
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Sanity is over rated anyway.

It just makes you go crazy!

Mon, 06/09/2014 - 18:45 | 4838823 logicalman
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If you live in an insane asylum, being called crazy is a compliment!

Mon, 06/09/2014 - 17:09 | 4838546 SmittyinLA
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noticing or mentioning insanity can get you locked up

Mon, 06/09/2014 - 16:49 | 4838486 AlaricBalth
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Everyone is entitled to be stupid, but the architects of our current economic quagmire abuse the privilege.

Mon, 06/09/2014 - 17:08 | 4838538 SmittyinLA
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Speaking of Architects, "The Architect" made the cut in the CA governors race, I kid you not we get to choose between Jerry Brown and Neel Kashkari, "the Architect" , a choice of 2 Sociailists.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/01/21/neel-kashkari-california-govern...

 

 

Mon, 06/09/2014 - 17:26 | 4838588 Headbanger
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Oh darn..   I thought you meant this guy:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2wdKlWXyUkc

Mon, 06/09/2014 - 16:51 | 4838495 Stackers
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If you haven't seen recent documentary movie "Milus" on John Milus yet, it's a must see.

Tue, 06/10/2014 - 07:10 | 4839867 TheMerryPrankster
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I found his twerking in bad taste and over the top..

Mon, 06/09/2014 - 16:41 | 4838447 Bear
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Definition of Insanity ... 2014 Markets

Mon, 06/09/2014 - 16:46 | 4838467 Caveman93
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I asked Dad when I was 5 where does money come from and how to we get more when it's needed. " Son, we'll just print more". Fucking Truth!

Mon, 06/09/2014 - 17:39 | 4838619 Shad_ow
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Ben is your Dad?

Mon, 06/09/2014 - 18:16 | 4838729 Caveman93
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Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!

(Best Luke Skywalker Impression)

Mon, 06/09/2014 - 16:46 | 4838469 Investor Wizard
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Need more trillion dollar coins.

Mon, 06/09/2014 - 16:57 | 4838508 nobodysfool
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^ I'll give you $10 bucks for one...

Mon, 06/09/2014 - 18:14 | 4838718 putaipan
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how 'bout a 15 quadrillion dollar gold bearer bond ?

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-Zd2uA6VPYx0/U4yhCCRG8DI/AAAAAAAADIw/l2Goasy6ve...

Tue, 06/10/2014 - 07:13 | 4839870 TheMerryPrankster
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Obama smoking a joint on the obverse and a middle finger with an all seeing eye on its tip on the reverse

the Trillion dollar coin is waiting to be minted.

Through the rabbit hole, I'm late, I'm late...

Mon, 06/09/2014 - 16:49 | 4838470 hobopants
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So that's why Hemingway blew his brains out...Saw where this shit train was headed.

Mon, 06/09/2014 - 16:58 | 4838512 NOTaREALmerican
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Re:  Saw where this shit train was headed

But,  the shit train kept on running and running.   

People with Morality OCD alwasy look on the gloomy side.

Mon, 06/09/2014 - 17:07 | 4838535 FishHockers
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I have OCD & ADD. Everything has to be perfect, just not for very long.

Tue, 06/10/2014 - 01:18 | 4839658 RafterManFMJ
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My nephew has HDADD. High Definition Attention Deficit Disorder. He can barely pay attention, but when he does it's unbelievably clear. -

Steven Wright

Mon, 06/09/2014 - 19:04 | 4838874 Wahooo
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Yup

Mon, 06/09/2014 - 16:48 | 4838479 oklaboy
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price of ammo is falling, time to stock up....

Mon, 06/09/2014 - 16:53 | 4838488 Number 156
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I think the politicians in America do know that they're in flames right now. Thus, they need more people to become the new serfdom.
This is why both political parties there want so called "immigration reform" so badly. That, and throw in some class warfare to solidify the positions of both parties. Otherwise people tend to vacillate back and forth. Democracy is an illusion.

They know they cannot recover their economy on a population who refuse to work for wages below the poverty line.

 

Tue, 06/10/2014 - 17:47 | 4842073 TBT or not TBT
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Oh dear, "the poverty line".   The statistically derived income level where you are at or below x% of the average national income.  Sigh.   This average is very high compared to most countries on the planet, and is enormous compared to any time in human history.  And yet, despite the high inactivity rate, a lot of Americans work hard for 0 dollars per hour, and yet produce goods and services for themselves and their families and others too.   This sort of behavior increases the more government taxes incomes and thwarts economic freedom.   Of course, government also incentivizes the choice by many to eschew paid work, giving them an impressive income by world standards and historical standards, while they spend their time on, well, not only leisure.  Depends on the individual.   If we want Americans to do paid work, the first thing to is pare down taxes, regulations, wage price fixing schemes, and WELFARE.  

Tue, 06/10/2014 - 21:46 | 4842904 Number 156
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Yes, the poverty line is arbitrary, and keeps getting lower despite prices rising. (CPI is worthless)

It part of the corporate welfare scheme. Large corporations like McDonalds will be able to pay sale wages, and the goerment will pay the other part from your pocket.

I'd say abolish all welfare.

  Less tax liabilities against wages mean we keep more.

  We keep more, we can engage in more economic activity.

  More economic activity, more jobs. 

 

Mon, 06/09/2014 - 16:51 | 4838494 headhunt
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“resting on a bed of nitroglycerine”

If you sip it slowly it only burns a little on the way down.

Mon, 06/09/2014 - 19:02 | 4838870 logicalman
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I remember making the stuff on the quiet in school chemistry class.

Some of the shit we did back in the late 60s, early 70s would get you a bed in Guantanamo these days!

Good for some heart problems too, just don't shake the bottle too hard!

 

Mon, 06/09/2014 - 16:57 | 4838507 NOTaREALmerican
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Never underestimate the power of the bullshit, young Tim Price.

Mon, 06/09/2014 - 17:05 | 4838524 Dragon HAwk
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Classic Medical Statement...

 If you think you are Crazy... Your Not...

 

So i guess the Corollary is that if you and your friends think you are the only sane ones left on ZH, ?

Tue, 06/10/2014 - 06:30 | 4839834 what's that smell
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“... it was written I should be loyal to the nightmare of my choice.” 

“Droll thing life is -- that mysterious arrangement of merciless logic for a futile purpose. The most you can hope from it is some knowledge of yourself -- that comes too late -- a crop of inextinguishable regrets.”

“But his soul was mad. Being alone in the wilderness, it had looked within itself and, by heavens I tell you, it had gone mad.”

“The horror! The horror!” 
Joseph ConradHeart of Darkness and the Congo Diary

Mon, 06/09/2014 - 17:24 | 4838581 Seer
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Insane premises produce insane results.  The human goal of perpetual growth on a finite planet and the eventual realization of its failure would only ever produce insanity.

Mon, 06/09/2014 - 17:27 | 4838592 TheFourthStooge-ing
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The level of talent of Francis Ford Coppola is something which the "leaders" in western governments do not have and cannot attain. They stumble around at an Ed Wood level, with the occasional exception reaching a Bert I. Gordon status.

The problem is that some of them do reach the level of determination which Coppola exhibited in making Apocalypse Now. Think of the results of a production being directed by a committee of Ed Woods and Bert I. Gordons, each with a Coppola level of determination, plus an unlimited budget. We're looking at an epic disaster which is so bad that it's unintentionally funny, yet with special effects so real that you feel like you're a part of it.

Coming soon: Apocalypse, Fucked

Mon, 06/09/2014 - 17:40 | 4838601 Radical Marijuana
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The appropriate metaphors found in the movie ‘Apocalypse Now’ were also developed in this article, that I commented upon there:

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-03-31/hollow-men-hollow-markets-hollow-world

Hollow Men, Hollow Markets, Hollow World

This article above, that appeared in the "Sovereign Man" blog, classically misses the mark by light years when it comes to the concept of "sovereignty." This article concludes with the wistful nostalgic nonsense of pining for "a durable store of value that cannot be printed on demand. If only we could find one."

Sorry folks, but money is necessarily measurement backed by murder, although almost nobody likes to admit that basic fact, and those who make the most "money" tend to be the best at deliberately denying and ignoring that basic fact.

The crucial point in the movie ‘Apocalypse Now’  (that I expanded upon in my comment in the previous article I linked above) was that took place during the time when the Viet Nam War then was the first "war" taking place after the MADness of Mutual Assured Destruction had developed, because, during the late 1960s, into the early 1970s, was when there were developed enough weapons of mass destruction that any war, fought to exhaustion, would almost totally destroy the whole of civilization everywhere.

While the murder systems have become INSANE, simultaneously, those murder systems were backing up a monetary system which was also always INSANE, because it was the MADnes of Money As Debt. During the previous several decades, those two MADness have grown and grown, to become globalized electronic frauds, backed up by weapons of mass destruction.

Our problems are now trillions of times worse than ever before in human history. It is NOT possible to go back to having the superficial notions that "money" is a store of value, or all of the rest of the list of shallow ideas about what "money" should be. Instead, I REPEAT: MONEY IS MEASUREMENT BACKED BY MURDER. It is due to that basic fact that civilization operates through debt controls backed by death controls, where the debt slavery has generated numbers which have become debt insanities, which are on the verge of provoking death insanities.

While I certainly agree that "Little By Little, We Went Insane," the kinds of solutions promoted by reactionary revolutionaries, who refuse to face the fact that sovereignty is based on the power to rob, are merely more of the same old-fashioned fundamental dichotomies, and related impossible ideals. There is NO way to have a sane and stable money system without a sane and stable murder system to back that up. However, comprehending such a concept would take a profound series of intellectual scientific revolutions, which were then applied through politics, and especially to monetarism, and militarism.

Governments are the biggest forms of organized crime, controlled by the best organized gangs of criminals, who, simply because they are the biggest and best organized, get to call themselves "governments" and "bankers." However, there are NO genuine solutions other than to MAYBE go through the processes of developing better organized crime. Human realities are always organized lies, operating robberies. Private property is always claims backed by coercions, while money, as the most abstract form of private property, is always measurement backed by murder.

Our basic problems are due to progress in science and technologies, through the industrial revolution, developing at exponential rates to become globalized electronic financial frauds, backed up by the threat of the force of weapons of mass destruction. Meanwhile, those systems are operated by professional liars and immaculate hypocrites, whose degree of social success was dependent upon how good they were at being lying hypocrites.

Human civilizations are general energy systems which are operating according to the way energy works. However, within the human world that meant that society was controlled by the people who were the best at being dishonest, and backing that up with violence, so that civilization as a whole developed along the lines of least morality. Human laws were connected to natural laws by the ability of physical force to back up symbolic frauds. Thus, the currently established civilization has almost totally become systems of legalized lies, backed by legalized violence.

For Sure: "Little By Little, We Went Insane" because the application of the methods of organized crime to the political processes enabled the banksters, as the Fraud Kings, to control the powers of states, that had previously been built by the War Kings. First and foremost, the power to tax and legal tender laws enforced the frauds of private banks making the public "money" supply out of nothing as debts, which debt slavery systems then automatically drove themselves to generate numbers which became debt insanities, which is the cusp of political events that we find ourselves upon today.

However, most of the people do not understand that, and do not want to understand that, and therefore, continue to be act like political idiots, or Zombie Sheeple, while the few reactionary revolutionaries who do are like Black Sheeple, as illustrated by the authors published in the "Sovereign Man" blog, that promote the impossible goals of going backwards, towards the idealized, old-fashioned, notions of what "money" should be. Sorry folks, but money IS measurement backed by murder, which HAS become globalized electronic frauds, backed by the force of atomic bombs.

There are no genuine solutions outside of those apparently impossible problems, which were symbolically dramatized from the Viet Nam war onwards, without being better resolved, but only got MADder and MADder ... The chronic political problems that human beings face now are the same as always, only technologies have amplified those by trillions of times. We are going to be forced to operate death controls, to back up debt controls. The currently established systems were selected by historical selection pressures to become based on the maximum possible deceits and frauds.

Since almost nobody is going to be able and willing to publicly admit that, we are most probably headed through some series of severe social storms, and the psychotic breakdowns of debt insanities provoking death insanities. However, there actually continues to be no other better genuine solutions than to develop better death controls, no matter how practically impossible that theory appears to be at the present time.

Mon, 06/09/2014 - 18:09 | 4838696 PeeramidIdeologies
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Most people see debt as the problem, but a few see it as the solution (and yes I believe I'm using that term in a more favourable context). It is the prefect means of control, due to it's voluntary acceptance and legal reinforcement. It can and will be used to subjugate individuals, companies, and even nations.
Nothing short of a strong collective of like minded individuals will be able to resist the coercion that will be applied as the situation continues to deteriorate. This is a very really threat to every person on this planet, and it is my suggestion that people begin assessing how their lives may be affected by this instrument, and how they plan to deal with it.

Mon, 06/09/2014 - 18:22 | 4838754 Comte d'herblay
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"I see debt, people".

Mon, 06/09/2014 - 18:10 | 4838699 Alananda
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Thank you very much for taking the time to repeat yourself.  I sure missed it the first time.  Never too late!

Mon, 06/09/2014 - 23:05 | 4839440 malek
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 within the human world that meant that society was controlled by the people who were the best at being dishonest, and backing that up with violence, so that civilization as a whole developed along the lines of least morality

That's an interesting thought. If one extends on it, it means that Western civilization didn't come out on top because Christianity gave it the most reasonable framework in laws and ethics, but because it was successfully selling the biggest lies.

However, for your main statement money is measurement backed by murder you fail to deliver a concise reasoning, and that would need to go beyond "money nowadays is measurement backed by murder" to also cover why "money always has to be measurement backed by murder"

And if I go to your previous post at Hollow-men:
you didn't expand there either.

Also on a side note I have a different perception of Kurtz' reasoning.
First of all you seem to be mixing up the Korean and the Vietnam war to make a point. In the Korean war at some point General MacArthur -if I don't mixup the facts- demanded a nuclear strike on the North Korean forces. No one to my knowledge ever openly suggested that again in the Vietnam war.
Also in my interpretation the North Vietnamese came to understand that lacking the necessary weapons, they could win the war not by attrition but by continuously increasing the cruelty level. Because the U.S. was holding the moral high ground plus was a somewhat civilized country in no way directly threatened by events in some small country South East Asia and the press not in total control of the government, it could not match that cruelty level beyond a certain point.
Kurtz realized that and responded in a pure logical way bereft of empathy (not much different than the real McNamara did at his desk!) by increasing the cruelty towards the North Vietnamese until no one of them would come close to his area again, thereby achieving the original objective to defeat the enemy somewhat.
(If there is a scene in the film where Kurtz indicates he demanded the use of weapons of mass destruction, I missed it.)

Wed, 06/11/2014 - 03:57 | 4843638 Radical Marijuana
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malek, I have not watched that movie for a several decades ... However, I remember Kurtz talking about nuking the North ???

The Korean War was back when there were not yet enough atomic bombs, on both sides, so that an all-out escalation may have been still survivable. However, after there are several hundred atomic bombs, then fighting to the exhaustion of those weapons means "nuclear winter" and a bunch of other consequences that only a few people might survive through that bottleneck.

Theoretically, Mutual Assured Destruction is not supposed to get going by an accidental series of events. It is supposed to be that both sides continue to recognize that "the only way to win is not to play the game." However, in my opinion the Western ruling classes are criminally insane enough to keep on pushing and pushing, constantly able and willing to risk starting a world war.

Since the military forces of NATO primarily back up the banksters' frauds, I think we are deep into the domain of psychoses, where the history of previously being able to back up the money system with the murder system, and thereby gain control over natural resources, has become too suicidal, or even almost omnicidal. Indeed, I believe that the title of this article was quite correct, that "little by little, we went insane." ... However, I think we have actually become trillions of times more insane than that article implies is the case.

Anyway, regarding my comprehensive definition that "money is measurement backed by murder," for the past 9 years, I have been gradually developing that idea in this long forum thread: Some Monetary System articles. Previous to that, of course, I have been developing my own system of understand since I was a teenager, with an emphasis of the relationship on the funding of politics for the previous 30 years, which I am continuing to "work" on now, through Canadian Electoral District Associations.

HOWEVER, NONE OF THAT MAKES ANY PRACTICAL DIFFERENCE, (OTHER THAN TO ATTEMPT TO UNDERSTAND THINGS FOR THEIR OWN SAKE, LIKE AN ART PROJECT DONE FOR ITS OWN SAKE), SINCE THE REAL WORLD WILL CONTINUE TO BE CONTROLLED BY ESTABLISHED SYSTEMS OF LIES, BACKED BY VIOLENCE, QUITE REGARDLESS OF WHATEVER I MAY THINK ABOUT THAT ...

Tue, 06/10/2014 - 02:30 | 4839722 monad
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You should smoke pot at least one time to prognosticate your perspective. The FBI had this down in the 60s; you must be native chineses

Mon, 06/09/2014 - 17:33 | 4838604 pcrs
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No worries central banks put a floor under the bond market, real borrowers all ready lost faith long ago. Central banks don't invest their own money so interest rate will never go up.

Mon, 06/09/2014 - 17:37 | 4838612 JR
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The people have always understood currency to be an object for use as a medium of exchange. There can be no relief for the destruction of western economies by the international banking cartel, the Fed, until a currency is established that is not under its control.

Base the currency 95% on gold and leave the Fed in charge and the destruction continues. These subjects go together: The Great Society, Obama’s Welfare State, the Empire’s ubiquitous War on Terror and fiat currency.

The solution is to take away the control of the currency and this great nation’s dependence from the private bankers, and restore the issue of the currency to the people as was intended…before this present civilization collapses.

Dr. John Marini, professor of political science at the University of Nevada-Reno, outlines what happens when separation of powers gives way to centralization of power and central planning: “As seen in the recent government shutdown and the showdown over the debt limit—the latest in a long series of such crises in Washington—the federal budget stands at the heart of American politics. With few exceptions, the budget has formed the battleground between the political branches of the government—the executive and the legislative—in every administration since LBJ’s Great Society. That starting point is not a coincidence: The Great Society marked the beginning of an expansion of the federal government and a centralization of political and administrative power in Washington that had long been the domain of local and state governments. In addition to destroying the fabric of federalism, this centralization had the effect of undermining the separation of powers, making it difficult if not impossible for Congress, the president, and the bureaucracy to function amicably in pursuit of a national interest.

“What we have seen in subsequent decades is the steady expansion of a modern administrative state that is distinctively American in that it coexists with a limited government Constitution…

"Congress has become a major player in the administrative state precisely by surrendering its constitutional purpose and ceasing to defend limited government…” – Dr. John Marini, professor of political science at the University of Nevada-Reno, speech, Budget Battles and the Growth of the Administrative State, October 2013

Mon, 06/09/2014 - 17:38 | 4838615 sfisher
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 Everything seems to get crazier with each passing day.  Government actions, over and over again, are clearly not as they are presented.  Actions that should get a President impeached are quickly forgotten.  Seems like we are constantly threatening to invade a different country (usually we already covertly there). 

Newspapers are worthless BS. And, most importantly, everyone is asleep.  When I have a conversation with someone about important issues relating to the loss of liberties, they immediately revert to defending the State position.  Most people do not have an interest in taking personal responsibility in many aspects of their lives.    Total Sheeple/Slave Nation!

Mon, 06/09/2014 - 18:21 | 4838751 Comte d'herblay
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It's impossible to bring up a controversial subject in polite company, unless it's about celebrities.  

Unless you don't care if you're invited back again or not.   It's only outliers who seem to give a damn and there are as few of them as are honest men and women. 

Mon, 06/09/2014 - 17:55 | 4838664 NYPoke
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And who, oh who, would want to bankrupt all nations?  I wonder.

Mon, 06/09/2014 - 18:02 | 4838676 I Write Code
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"Obamanation Now"

I love the smell of golf balls in the morning.

The horror, the - oh screw it fire up AF1 and let's go somewhere.

I just loves me some o'dat extreme prejudices.

Barry don't surf.

Barry: I'm a president.
Kurtz: You're neither. You're an errand boy, sent by grocery clerks, to collect a bill.

 

Mon, 06/09/2014 - 18:26 | 4838764 Comte d'herblay
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I have seen parents, relatives, enemies, friends, and co-workers die in their ridiculously held fictions, that they call 'beliefs'.   I'd venture a guess that many billions before them and after them will succumb believing things that have never been proven, and they don't give a shit about it. 

From that I deduce that this piece is wrong.

Mankind is at its root already massively Insane.  It's not been bred out during evolution.  Yet.

Mon, 06/09/2014 - 18:57 | 4838862 new game
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bravo to comte-fucking humans suck dick wades. people suck with few exceptions...

Mon, 06/09/2014 - 18:43 | 4838809 Reaper
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Why do we presume the collective intelligence of humans? When has humanity, collectively, ever learned about kings, bankers and salesmen? Why is thinking like most of mankind, considered sane? Is not the collective mind insane, because it never learns from experience?

Do the few "insane" think? While the huge multitudes of the "sane" trust in that which always fails?

Mon, 06/09/2014 - 18:46 | 4838825 Doom and Dust
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Little by little, then all at once.

Mon, 06/09/2014 - 19:42 | 4838968 Youri Carma
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Indeed, we live the law of the jungle with too much fraud creating too much debt by too many banksters who have access to too much money with too much leverage

… and little by little they went insane … http://vimeo.com/45985040

Mon, 06/09/2014 - 19:46 | 4838994 The Most Intere...
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Question: Does anybody see any central banker/government letting rates go higher? OK, No, right?

BTW, they ain't gonna lose control. If any country lost control of rates there would be anarchy. Rates would go so high so fast everything would implode. This bullshit about some controlled exit is, well, bullshit. There is no exit. If Japan can handle their debt load, anybody can.

Logically, all yields continue to head lower, with really no risk of default. Sovereigns continue to rise in value.

Mon, 06/09/2014 - 19:54 | 4839029 Robert.Paulson
Mon, 06/09/2014 - 21:48 | 4839294 dexter_morgan
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Let's face up to facts. When this shit is termed entertainment and people bring their children to see it, is it any wonder we are where we're at?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fWJrASEHmHQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=08w0LQUIZ9E

Don't get me wrong, I'm not for government censorship, but I am for personal rejection of worthless shit and the common sense to know better and know what is beneficial and what is destructive. When shit like this flourishes in a nation, the end is not likely far away. And this by no means the worst of the shit out there I'm sure.

Tue, 06/10/2014 - 10:55 | 4840540 AynRandFan
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Look no farther than Breaking Bad.

Tue, 06/10/2014 - 02:27 | 4839719 monad
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